Joe Satriani: The Artist And The Teacher

Throughout the history of rock, there hasn’t been a guitarist with more ability than Joe Satriani. His technical ability has been unmatched by no other in any form of music. Some do not like him because he does not play in a traditional band. By traditional band, I mean in a band with vocals. This, however, makes me believe that he is even greater than those like Jimmy Page and Eddie Van Halen (not Hendrix, nobody is better than Jimi).

I’ll break it down. Satch’s studio albums are on average 11 tracks. In these songs, Satch is soloing about 85% of the time. Compare this to Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin. Zeppelin studio albums averaged about 9 songs with a solo nearly all of them. In these songs, the average solo was about one minute. That’s only about 15% of the song. Now, when it comes to rock music, numbers don’t mean much. I’m just giving you people something to think about.

I could go on and on about Joe Satriani’s ability on guitar, but what most impresses me was his ability to train and educate others on guitar. I am definitely not the first person to say this, but Joe Satriani is the greatest guitar teacher ever. Below is a list of three of his students that he taught to play guitar. Maybe you’ve heard of them?

Steve Vai

Played For: Whitesnake, David Lee Roth, Alcatrazz, Frank Zappa

If I was Joe Satriani, I would brag my ass off to the other guitar teachers about this guy. A Top 10 guitarist without a doubt, Steve studied with Joe at Berklee College of Music from an early age. He has played with many great musicians including David Lee Roth, Yngwie Malmsteen, Vinnie Colaiuta, and Frank Zappa. Throughout the 90s, Steve followed Satch’s footsteps and released instrumental albums.

Recommended Listening:

01. “For The Love Of God” - Solo
02. “Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar” - Frank Zappa
03. “Bad Horsie” - Solo

Kirk Hammett

Plays For: Metallica (if you didn’t know that, just get out right now)

One of the gods of heavy metal, Kirk Hammett is one of the more recognizable guitarists of the 80s and 90s. His playing has influenced many guitarists, such as John Petrucci of Dream Theater, Josh Homme of Queens Of The Stone Age, and Daron Malakian of System Of A Down. Metallica would have been nothing without this man.

Recommended Listening:

01. “Master Of Puppets”
02. “One”
03. “Wherever I May Roam”

Larry “Ler” LaLonde

Plays For: Primus

I don’t like the lyrics and vocals of Primus, but Ler and play some good guitar. Larry has been often overshadowed by the amazing ability by Les Claypool on bass, but is still one of the best guitarists of the 90s.

Recommended Listening:

01. “Tommy The Cat”
02. “Jerry Was A Racecar Driver”
03. “Eleven”

Wow, that’s some amazing guitarists he has taught.

Comments

[overflow]

indeed I think he was one of the best guitar teachers around. but if these students weren't as good as they are a good teacher wouldn't make them who they are now

[deadlyminista]

Cool article. I still say Segovia is number one. Joe is a great teacher. I'm learning a lot from both of them.

[Rancid baboon]

I?ll break it down. Satch?s studio albums are on average 11 tracks. In these songs, Satch is soloing about 85% of the time. Compare this to Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin. Zeppelin studio albums averaged about 9 songs with a solo nearly all of them. In these songs, the average solo was about one minute. That?s only about 15% of the song. Now, when it comes to rock music, numbers don?t mean much. I?m just giving you people something to think about.

This is utter nonsense.

[J3ZZA]

I've never heard of him :p but he sounds real good, i'll have to have a listen.

[TheI7ark]

I'd say there have been guitarists with more ability... Say... His student Vai?

Wait a minute i swear hammett was only taught my satch for a few weeks and that was it?:S

((i meant to say " i thought hammett met satriani and didnt really give him any lessons at all. ))

[Bonsaischaap]

^I know i would rather listen to a 10 minute satriani solo than a 30 second Jimmy Page one...

[MichaelBrigham]

By the way... I know its hard to believe, but I think Metallica might actually be bigger without Kirk Hammet.

Now he is a great guitarist (better than Satriani, I don't care if he taught him at one time), however if Metallica didn't get Hammet, most likely they would have Dave Mustaine, who was replaced. Let me name the big four again... Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, (should be Testament) and Anthrax. Two of those names combinded. Exodus (Kirk's former band) would be bigger (and should be still) with Kirk, and so things would have been a little differnt. But there is no way to tell.

Another thing...Soloing is very important, but if it isn't a good song, who the *** cares?

[MichaelBrigham]

The students you listed are great , but Kirk Hammett? One of the greats? Thats bullshit , Kirk Hammett is OKAY at best , but no way one of the greats .

Your right anyone can top his solos from Kill 'Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ...And Justice for All, right?

I'm sure that "Jimmy Page" could beat those solos...

And Jimmy Page is awesome, too, but in a differnt way than Hammet.

[spuddy104]

this is ***in retarded

[The Oceanborn]

Horebane:
The students you listed are great , but Kirk Hammett? One of the greats? Thats bullshit , Kirk Hammett is OKAY at best , but no way one of the greats .

This leads me to think .... ARE YOU ON CRACK?
Lay off it man , it makes you think like a CLOSE MINDED FUCKTARD WITH AN EGO AS BIG AS MICHAEL MOORE.

That makes me think about YOUR ego and your playing ability...

[The Oceanborn]

MichaelBrigham:
By the way... I know its hard to believe, but I think Metallica might actually be bigger without Kirk Hammet.

lol Dave mustaine isn't a better guitarist than Hammet and they probably wouldn't have kept Mustaine because he was drugged up all the time and not dependable
and if you're talking of the demise of Metallica from thrash to (damn good still) mainstream, that clearly has started with Bob Rock and Newsted

[atc228]

soloing isnt everything, sometimes listening to solos gets boring- thats why i believe a song should only have a solo if necesary and as long as necesary
an excellent example of a necesary and excellent solo is led zeps "since i've been loving you"-

[UtBDan]

Article had potential, but you just said how much you loved him and barely focused on anything of worth. Even the parts on other guitarists is you just saying how you feel, not being informative.

[xthpsgodx]

solos dont make a good guitarist, im sick and tired of this arguement. not that i dont agree he is a godd guitarist i just hate people use that to justify a good guitarist

[Rancid baboon]

At the end of the day it is the songs that connect with people, not how fast you can play.

[Stratwizard]

You should've made this longer. Too shortly you described those guitarists. As a shredder I expected something more about such a great guitarist as Joe Satriani. You seemingly aren't very much into shred as you listed only Steve Vai's most known songs.

[Stratwizard]

Corrcetion

Steve studied with Joe at Berklee College of Music from an early age

Steve started to take lessons from Joe when he was 12 in 1971 and went to Berklee in 1978.

[MankiiKing]

I?ll break it down. Satch?s studio albums are on average 11 tracks. In these songs, Satch is soloing about 85% of the time. Compare this to Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin. Zeppelin studio albums averaged about 9 songs with a solo nearly all of them. In these songs, the average solo was about one minute. That?s only about 15% of the song.

Ok? Take Whole Lotta Love for example. That solo is exactly long enough not to get boring but it still will blow your fscking mind all over the walls. Im not saying that either is better than the other but theres something for YOU to think about.

[Doolittle88]

point 1: Just because you play more solo's doesn't make you a better guitarist. the key is good taste...

point 2: You're right...nobody will ever be as good as Jimi.

[psykopoo]

horebane youre a ***ing retard, get a life, jimmy page is an insignificant blip compared to satriani, i know id much rather lister to vai, satriani or hammett solos than anything page can come up with

[Sum1]

playing a good rythm is the hardest thing you can possibly do, not to take away from satchs ability he is still ***ing amazing, but dont say just because he solos all the time thats what makes him good..

[EvenInHisYouth]

horebane youre a ***ing retard, get a life, jimmy page is an insignificant blip compared to satriani, i know id much rather lister to vai, satriani or hammett solos than anything page can come up with

Insignificant blip? Is that why 100x more people know who Page is than Satriani. They're both great guitarists for different reasons, and there's no point comparing them unless Satriani becomes lead guitarist of a classic rock band or Page releases a solo CD from his prime (neither of which will happen)

[rpmbass]

i totally agree with these people sayin that solo's arent everything, because you are all right. there are plenty of bands out there that have just as many fans as bands with awesome lead guitarist. and also i agree with whoever said solo's only go where they fit into a song. i played with a band that put them in every song and it just doesnt always sound good. i think whoever said the thing about jimmy being better known than satriani has a point too.

[cocox2]

WELL MY FRIENDS, YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PLAYING THE GUITAR. YOU GUYS THINK THAT IF SOMETHING SOUNDS GOOD AND YOU CAN'T PLAY IT, (BECAUSE IM SURE THAT YOU CANT PLAY ANYTHING OF EDDIE V.H. OR KIRK H.). SO, YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING MAN... JIMI WAS NOT THE BEST GUITARRIST EVER, YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE IDIOTS, JIMI WAS GREAT, BUT HE ONLY TOOK THE FUNKY STYLE AND MIXED IT WITHG SOME ROCK AND ROLL, HIS SOLOS WERE HORRIBLES, HE DONT HAD ANY SPEED OR TECHNIC PLAYING, HE ONLY BEND THE STRINGS, NOTHING ELSE.
KIRK WAS, IS, AND IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE BEST GUITARRIST EVER, BUT NOT BECAUSE HE PLAY SOME KICK ASS SOLOS, BECAUSE HE MADE HIS OWN HEAVY STYLE, BUT, IF YOU GUYS KEEP LEARNING SOME FUCKING TABS OF NIRVANA, BLINK OR ALL THAT SHIT, YOU NEVER WILL REALIZE; KIRK SOLOS WERE PRETTY FUCKING EASY TO PLAY, AND YOU SAID TO US TO LISTEN TO "ONE" WELL, THAT SONG IS THE MOST STUPID TO PLAY, THE SOLO (IM COMPLETELY SURE THAT YOU THINK THAT SOLO IS THE BEST OF METALLICA..... BUT YOU ARE WRONGGG..) THATS ONLY A VERY DUMB TAPPING OF 2 STRINGS, IS VERY EASYYY.., BUT IM SURE THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHATS TAPPING, YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE YOU SPEND ALL DAY "TRYING" TO PLAY "SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT" OF NIRVANA, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE MOST EASY SONG EVER, IF YOU CANT PLAY THAT EASY RIFF, FORGET ABOUT WRITING ABOUT SOLOS AND HEAVY GUITARRISTS.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU FORGET THE GUITARRIST THAT MADE NEOCLASSIC STYLE, THE ONE THAT KIRK, EDDIE, JOE AND EVERY HEAVY GUITARRIST USES TO MAKE HIS SONGS, YEAH MAN, HIS NAME IS:

..YNGWIE MALMSTEEN

SO, READ THIS, LISTEN TO YNGWIE'S SONGS, THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID, AND THEN...RATE THIS SHIT, OK?
SEE YOU GUYS

IF YOU WANT TO TELL ME SOMETHING JUST EMAIL ME TO [e-mail]

[cocox2]

oh man, this is beatifull, im soooo right

[axeslinger01]

ok FORGET his teaching ability, i saw him play at a little theater (the keswick) a few months ago and he just KICKED ASS! his openiing act was this dude named ned who was recording a live album, to make a long story short ned SUCKED, and these dudes in the audience kept yelling the funniest things you have ever heard in your life!!!..

[watchmannee]

vai is excellent, satch is good, and hammet cant play a decent solo if he doesn't have a wah pedal to wank on. First off, if you want to talk about a real guitar player check out jeff beck for bending, mike stern for progressiveness, and joe pass for phrasing.

[KoRn]

The students you listed are great , but Kirk Hammett? One of the greats? Thats bullshit , Kirk Hammett is OKAY at best , but no way one of the greats .


I'd to see you play the things that kirk plays... jerk off!!!

[KoRn]

i'd like*

[The Powerslave]

To be honest you cant compare Satriani, Page and Hammet, because they all play different styles. For example you may not like Hammet, or heavy/thrash metal, but IN HIS FIELD he is one of the best ever. No doubt. Just becaused you dont like him doesnt mean he's bad.
Also Satriani, just because you dont like long solos doesnt mean he's bad, you just dont like him.
And I also feel that as a guitar PLAYER Vai is better than Hendrix. But before you get angry hear me out. Yes Hendrix was great but put the two of them into a contest of pure guitar and Vai would win. The reason Hendrix is better as a GUITARIST is because he influenced people and broke boundaries. Vai has done very little of that, compared to Hendrix anyway.

[Guitar_Guy00001]

cool article imo

[Doolittle88]

if you think satch and yngwie and vai are "better" than the others then you have a problem....

when you are talking about who has "better" technical abilities....well.....how do you know?...have you ever sat down with the worlds most famous guitarists in a room with a metronome and saw who could play any given solo the fastest?.....

but i think it's pretty safe to say that the "best" artists are the ones who have affected/influenced the most people.....so of the artists the author described....Hammett, Page, EVH and Hendrix are evidently "Better".








^^read that it's awesome

[freetobenothin]

oh man, this is beatifull, im soooo right

someone has a bit of an ego problem. who are you to tell us we dont know anything about guitar. wat have u done that has amazed the whole with your guitar? dont rip on hendrix

[afirocker00]

Nice article but to short.You should've listed 2 or 3 more (if there are two or three more,lol).

Good though,I didn't know he taught Kirk.

You need to brush up on quite a bit of your info.

[beaker]

why has playing guitar become such a competiton!!!.. im sure jimmy page's focus was actually writing actual songs and not bein half arsed and filling verses up with mindless solos..dont get me wrong i like joe satriani, i saw him live last year, but i dont think being a good guitar player makes him a great person, let alone a great songwriter. when he writes something as influential as stairway to heaven then ill think differently of him

[acdc101]

Jesus Christ solos are not everything. You are an idiot if that is all guitar playing is to you.

[acdc101]

Jesus Christ solos are not everything. You are an idiot if that is all guitar playing is to you.

I dont think Joe Satriani has directly influenced a quarter of the people that Page influenced, even though Satch himself was probably influenced by Jimmy Page. You might want to keep that in mind.

[Rancid baboon]

I went to see kelly joe phelps the other night, the man has an awesome talent. he was playing the most complicated finger picking patterns and singing at the same time, the man was born to play.

[franksciante]

i thought he taught slash aswell...?

and cocox2 ....shut up.... just shut up

[MayallRules]

cocox2, judging by the way you worte your last comment, id say your around 15. My advice to you, is to shut the hell up, stop acting like you know everything and go play the guitar....stop acting like a child, you bitch.

[iamsatan]

he also taught alex schonick from the band testament who are more influential then mettalica to many famous bands but they were so obscure and unheard of that unfortuantely they werent very famous but hes actually betta than hammet and now plays in a jazz band

[beaker]

i bet the folk guitarist martin simpson could out solo most modern guitarists anyway

[Tom Martin]

How can anyone slag off Satriani... there is simply no arguing his talent and ability... can anyone here actually play guitar?!?

this article was biased, bad, and had almost no actual information. i refuse to believe Satriani is better than Page, especailly based on your crappy data. some people actually like listening to a song, not a mindless solo that is really long. the concept of chords and a melody behind vocals is something i enjoy. but thats just my opinion.

cocox2:
oh man, this is beatifull, im soooo right

1. caps lock should be off for the duration of all posts.
2. you are stupid and egoistical and dont understand that people have opinions, and yours isnt always right.

[umair]

alex scholnik...defintely 100x better than hammett

[turn_it_upto_11]

Joe Satriani ***in rules, if you've never heard of him, go out and buy Surfing With The Alien, you won't regret it.

[imessyou]

cocox2 you are actually funny how frickin stupid you are.

[backonthefrets]

I'll agree the article was light on information, facts, form, style, appeal, insight and everything else that makes an informational article worth reading, however the truth is this; Satriani, although technically proficient and textbook in his playing, can't hold a candle to Vai in terms of pure passion and familiarity with the instrument. I saw G3 with YM in TO last year and it was my first time seeing any of the performers live. I am familiar with the work of all three musicians and respect and admire the varied styles. Yngwie, although "technically" one of the world's greatest players, can drop off the edge of the world tomorrow and take his long robed, pick-kicking, guitar spinning ass with him. His note-filled bars are nothing but noise and I couldn't wait for him to get off the stage. My opionion, of course, but the man has absolutely no feel or passion for the guitar - to him it's a tool, nothing more. Satch closed the show with a perfect rendition of each song - note for note. His lack of creativity and stage presence bothered me a bit but it was great to hear the songs that made him famous. He is more reknown than YM or Vai simply because he has more commercial appeal and radio friendly music, especially in the late 80's and early 90's. Vai couldn't play long enough, as far as I was concerned. The guitar is an appendage of him - an extension if you will. Beautiful, perfect and passionate. Whisper on a Prayer gave me goosebumps - actual goosebumps. He has turned the guitar into a living thing and treats it as such - with respect, love and admiration. Truly the greatest master of the instrument. Everyone before him revolutionized the guitar in their own ways - Page with the violin bow, Jimi with the flames and backward-lefty Strat, even people like Chet Atkins and James Taylor introduced different melodies and chord progressions. Every player is different in their own regards but give the respect where it is due - Vai Rules!

[you're_dumb]

horebane youre a ***ing retard, get a life, jimmy page is an insignificant blip compared to satriani, i know id much rather lister to vai, satriani or hammett solos than anything page can come up with

lollerskates! That's the greatest thing I've ever read. Satch is great. Hammet is mediocre. Ever Kirk Hammet solo sounds the same, if you ask me. Satch is innovative, and apparently innovation is something Kirk didn't pick up on.

But forget those two, because Page is so much better than either. Not only are his solos equally good or better, Page can say more in one bend than Hammet can say in a 3 octave triplet run, any day. Soloing wise, I'd say Page and Satch are equal, but Page could write a song to blow satch out of the water.

[julian2k4]

dude JOE IS THE MAN he is the best guitarrist there is
but watch out joe cus here i come..hahahha

[kRaff 21]

You guys need to stop whining over the freaking internet. State your opinion and freaking drop it, unless someone is being overly dumb. With that aside.....

I'm pretty sure I heard Satch taught Les Claypool to play bass too. In my eyes, Satch is very influential and one of the most important figures in rock via the chain of events he set off by teaching Vai, Hammett, Lalonde, Claypool, and Scholnik.

About the article: I don't think it was well written. There was too much bias what with the comment about Hendrix and all. A little more elaboration would help. And.....I'm leaving it be now.

[Metalhead_Jams]

Anyone heard of Mike stern or Pat methany? Not really rock but probably better that most guitarists named in the article.

[Steve Cropper]

He also taught buckethead.

[kRaff 21]

you're_dumb:
But forget those two, because Page is so much better than either. Not only are his solos equally good or better, Page can say more in one bend than Hammet can say in a 3 octave triplet run, any day. Soloing wise, I'd say Page and Satch are equal, but Page could write a song to blow satch out of the water.

You're right. Jimmy Page could steal an African American blues song to blow satch out of the water.....

[Metalhead_Jams]

oh and to cocox2, Didn't James Hetfield write most of the riffs and therefore dictate the style, not kirk hammet. (on the earlier records he only played the guitar solos)

[lacey]

cocox2, so you think hendrix just bent a few notes and mixed 2 different types of music? well you said the best guiarists influence people, what the hell do you think hendrix did, he didnt play no god damn fether duster and mimed to other peoples songs. and you really need to pull ur head out of your ass before you catch sumert nasty from the walls of your anus, and why the caps lock? . it made me laugh when you where talking about no body here beeing able to play guitar, what do you think this websites for?


hendix solos horrible? hmmm i wonder who the small minded one is

[wonderboy47]

In these songs, the average solo was about one minute. That?s only about 15% of the song.

That sounds like you're referring to "Stairway to Heaven". They had other songs.

[wonderboy47]

Good article though.

[brandonbray2002]

THESE ARE ALL OPINIONS!!!..WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT YOUR OPINION IS, THIS GUYS GREAT, THAT GUY SUCKS, YADA YADA, READ THE ARTICLE DECIDE IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!!..

[AnnaPlaysGuitar]

I don't understand how any of you can call these guitarists "mediocre." They are in a different league than your average guitarist you hear on the radio. Compared to other guitar extraordinaires, I can understand "mediocre". But, they are clearly great compared to the majority of guitarists.

[radiantmoon]

hmmm wat do ppl here think of eric johnson??? i saw the G3 tour with satriani,vai and eric johnson and i have to say tht eric johnson impressed me the most with his bluesy melodic music alot more than vai and satrianis technical slaughter!!!

[levelwisedallas]

That article was awful. 15% of a Zeppeling song, being 1 minute? The average Led Zep song was 9 minutes? I'm not a fan of theirs, but I'm assuming that's off. Regardless, Satch is great, but he's not THAT great, he's only very good, the guys he tought were better, as in Vai and Hammett. Stevie Ray Vaughan was better than Jimi by far.

[bearded_rainbow]

...what a load of crap

[proguit933]

this article was shitty at best,
so what if zeppelins solos were only one minute on studio albums, which they were probably longer, i definitely know that the dazed and confused solo is longer than a minute, and also jimmy's solos in concert were never a minute, infact they went as long as fifteen minutes. This also brings me to my next point, when a song is 85% soloing its impressive but cmon, its just boring after a while and ridiculous. also you cant really call him a great techer either, whos to say that it wasnt luck that all of those guitarists made it big, there are alot of other great guitarists out there who havent made it big and may have all been taught by a bum. i have a satch cd and i have to say its not that great, in my mind hes a bit overrated, but hey thats my opinion.

[Neon Knight]

WELL MY FRIENDS, YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PLAYING THE GUITAR. YOU GUYS THINK THAT IF SOMETHING SOUNDS GOOD AND YOU CAN'T PLAY IT, (BECAUSE IM SURE THAT YOU CANT PLAY ANYTHING OF EDDIE V.H. OR KIRK H.). SO, YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING MAN... JIMI WAS NOT THE BEST GUITARRIST EVER, YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE IDIOTS, JIMI WAS GREAT, BUT HE ONLY TOOK THE FUNKY STYLE AND MIXED IT WITHG SOME ROCK AND ROLL, HIS SOLOS WERE HORRIBLES, HE DONT HAD ANY SPEED OR TECHNIC PLAYING, HE ONLY BEND THE STRINGS, NOTHING ELSE.
KIRK WAS, IS, AND IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE BEST GUITARRIST EVER, BUT NOT BECAUSE HE PLAY SOME KICK ASS SOLOS, BECAUSE HE MADE HIS OWN HEAVY STYLE, BUT, IF YOU GUYS KEEP LEARNING SOME FUCKING TABS OF NIRVANA, BLINK OR ALL THAT SHIT, YOU NEVER WILL REALIZE; KIRK SOLOS WERE PRETTY FUCKING EASY TO PLAY, AND YOU SAID TO US TO LISTEN TO "ONE" WELL, THAT SONG IS THE MOST STUPID TO PLAY, THE SOLO (IM COMPLETELY SURE THAT YOU THINK THAT SOLO IS THE BEST OF METALLICA..... BUT YOU ARE WRONGGG..) THATS ONLY A VERY DUMB TAPPING OF 2 STRINGS, IS VERY EASYYY.., BUT IM SURE THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHATS TAPPING, YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE YOU SPEND ALL DAY "TRYING" TO PLAY "SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT" OF NIRVANA, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE MOST EASY SONG EVER, IF YOU CANT PLAY THAT EASY RIFF, FORGET ABOUT WRITING ABOUT SOLOS AND HEAVY GUITARRISTS.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU FORGET THE GUITARRIST THAT MADE NEOCLASSIC STYLE, THE ONE THAT KIRK, EDDIE, JOE AND EVERY HEAVY GUITARRIST USES TO MAKE HIS SONGS, YEAH MAN, HIS NAME IS:

..YNGWIE MALMSTEEN

SO, READ THIS, LISTEN TO YNGWIE'S SONGS, THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID, AND THEN...RATE THIS SHIT, OK?

uhh this post makes you look like the biggest jerk off since....(incert random asshole). This also makes you sound like you have no clue about guitar or guitarests. Jimi's solos were awesome he was unique in his sound and his playing was influencial beyond imagen, Jimi Hendrix is Satch's biggest influence, so as to break it down, no Hendrix no Satch, no Satch no Vai, no Vai...well you get the idea.

And how did this become Page vs Satch, Satch may be faster and what have you, but he isnt nearly as influencial as Page nor as creative so Satch basicialy got kicked in the balls right there (big fan of both though).....OH YEAH!!! Page is one of Vais major influences...Zeppelin used to be the only band he listened to.

[proguit933]

You're right. Jimmy Page could steal an African American blues song to blow satch out of the water.....

he may have used songs from other artists but he recreated the songs with his style and made it his own, for example if you watch the lz dvd at the royal albert hall, jimmy smokes i cant quit you baby and makes it so even if someone else made it his deliverance of it was so great that you wouldnt care who wrote it, but respect still has to go to robert johnson, b.b. king, t-bone walker and all of the blues greats.

[orenss]

what about CHARLIE HUNTER, i saw him live with his 8-string novax ad his trio and he blew my mind, he's incredibly listen to him if you have a chance

[llama]

Larry Lalonde is better than Hammett in my opinion, just learn Primus songs to see, Larry Lalonde is the man. And err...Claypool taught himself bass whoever said Satriani taught him, I'm pretty sure he did anyway.,,,

[guitarjared]

People that post here are such ***tards. TECHNICALITY IS NOT EVERYTHING, FUCKS.

[radiantmoon]

kirk hammet is not anywhere near in the same league as satch or vai, i mean come on!!!! but in saying tht hes an above average guitar player by anyones standards!!

[Diceman42]

TECHNICALITY IS NOT EVERYTHING, FUCKS.

Shh. Don't let the secret out, they just might start making good music, and no one wants that.

[clwy87]

^^^^AGREE!!...

[SamiGirl]

Rancid baboon:
At the end of the day it is the songs that connect with people, not how fast you can play.

MankiiKing:
Ok? Take Whole Lotta Love for example. That solo is exactly long enough not to get boring but it still will blow your fscking mind all over the walls. Im not saying that either is better than the other but theres something for YOU to think about.

"Whole Lotta Love" is the ultimate Zep song. Listening to that song loudly makes me tired. It just.. blows you away. Of course, Plant's 'orgasm' sequence goes nicely with Page's guitar.

Solos are not everything. I would personally rather listen to an hour of mundane chord strumming with excellent words than more than 10 minutes of Satriani. Words are very important. That's a big reason why Sigur Ros isn't entirely popular (sorry, they have words, just in jibberish language). Now, I'm not saying he isn't talented, because he is. His music is just not as mind blowing for me as it is for you.

Peace off!

[kRaff 21]

1 Whole Lotta Love - a song written by Willie Dixon . The Zepp version is a direct rip of the Small Faces version . If your a fan try to get a hold of this , you'll be amazed. The guitar riff
by the way is taken from the lead in Savoy Browns version of the song.
3 The Lemon Song - is a song written by Howlin Wolf called Killing Floor ( same song ) with kudos to Robert Johnsons Traveling Riverside Blues
5 Heartbreaker - a song called Diary Of A Life by Stan Webbs Chicken Shack with the break sounding way to much like the break in Arthur Browns Come and Buy
8 Moby Dick - a Sleepy John Estes tune with kudos to Ginger Bakers Toad
9 Bring It On Home - a song written by Sonny Boy Williamson ( same song )
There are 9 songs on this album FIVE ARE OTHER PEOPLES SONGS.



Anyways.....how did this get to be about Jimmy Page?

[areguzanda]

Satriani is a God .. i love his music. d .. Satriani, Via, Alexi Laiho, and Zakk Wylde .. all legends in my book .. but Satriani tops ..

[acdc101]

i thought he taught slash aswell...?

and cocox2 ....shut up.... just shut up

Thats pretty strange, since he sounds more like a Classic Rock guitarist than some Classic Rock guitarists. Your article really was close minded garbage. You never took into consideration that without Page and Eddie Van Halen, Joe Satriani would probably be sweeping floors in some Pizza shop. Complete Uninformed Bullshit.

[Kenty]

Hendrix was the first but he couldn't play any Satch sorry. People who use all their fingers on both hands are better that plectrum plonkers anyway.
Vai is better than Satch and Jimmy Page writes better geetar. I should know cuz I invented the universe (which was my favorite verse also)
Malmsteen is probably the fastest but so what.
Metallica should be in a different discussion like about drums or something.

[Ledzep2301]

I'm sorry but I disagree with most statements there. I think Jimmy Page is definitely #1 in my book. Now Satch was great but again...Page was so incredibly unique (violin bow in dazed and confused) He did so many incredible things in concert and his energy is just amazing.

[Zepp_head]

NEVER SAY ANY ONES BETTER THEN EDDIE OR JIMMY MAN THATS JUST STUPID!!!

[Zepp_head]

jimmy and eddie are the first great guitarests

jimmy was rippin befor hendrix was around and eddie is by him self he reinvented the guitar

yea zep took songs but they wrote alot of great ones
notice how all the songs they took where blues songs AND THEY WHERE A BLUES BAND!!!.. UMM HELLO THEY LIKED THEM AND GAVE CRIDET TO THE PPL WHO WROTE THEM!!!..

[Zepp_head]

also via went to GIT in LA

[Kenty]

Eddies technique is OK but take the blinkers off and Clapton was better than Page in the early days.
Less of STUPID mr Hendrix lover I'm just making a point. Vai is the spelling.

[MayallRules]

Bring it on home, was writen by WIllie Dixon....like it says on the Zep albums (after he sued though).

Whole Lotta Love was another Willie Dixon inspired song...PLants words were close to the original lyrics, but Page's rift was wholey orginal.

PAge used "afircan american" blues songs because he was acknowledging his influences. It happens all the time in the Blues world

[Mr. Clean]

Solos should *NEVER* make a song, a solo adds flavor to a song but is never at the core of the song. It's a mute point to say that 85% of a Satriani song was solo, because that would be crap, he may be a good player but I really don't want to listen to some guy's 6 minute solo. Sorry if you disagree with me but I'm right.

[exe zc]

You guys are all comparing uncomparable people.

1st- It's all about your personal opinions, so arguing that someones opinion is wrong is against the definition of an opinion.

2nd - They play different styles. It would be like me throwing in the comment, "Beethoven's early era compositions were much more musically dynamic than Hendrix, so therefore Hendrix sucks."

3rd (To Zepp_Head) - Hendrix's album Are You Experienced came our 2 years (1967) earlier than Led Zeppelin I (1969) so "jimmy was rippin befor hendrix was around" is wrong.

4th - And last, lets take a look at one of dictionary.com's definitions of music.
An aesthetically pleasing or harmonious sound or combination of sounds.

Now we look at the defenition for musician.

One who composes, conducts, or performs music, especially instrumental music.

Therefore, I dont care how fast you can play or how technical you are, if I don't find your music pleasing it is not good music and you are not a good musician.

[Kenty]

So Satch is a great teacher whose music is superb.
Every guitarist mentioned here must be pretty good cuz we're talking about them, I suppose. Anyone heard of Tommy Emmanuel? (hope I got the name right)

[tremonti91]

I personally don't think Hendrix is that good. Don't flip a bi***, it's jsut my opinion. I just picked up Joe's anthology, and it is AMAZING! he is great.

[Punk Poser]

i think satriani is a very good guitaristt but he lacks the passion and feel of alotta other guitarist. Also his fast speed is sometimes enjoyable but he should take it slower sometimes. Guitarist like clapton nad BB king play slow but they still are very good guitarists. Finally he doesnt hav any memorable riffs like page or Hammett. Heres some guitarist you probaly havent heard of but are very very skilled:
Sunny Ade
Nico Mbarga
Franco
Albert King
Jose Neto
Ry Cooder
Scott Henderson
Bill Frisel
the list goes on and on
give em a try. =)

[Punk Poser]

yeah!!

[Zepp_head]

hey bro jimmy page was playing on kinks and the who albums in 1965 and up so umm yea he was rippin befor hendrix sorry.....

But its compareing apples and ornges
Jimmy page-the alaround best guitaest ever plays every thing ive even seen him finger tap in 69-blues player
Eddie Vh--alaround ripper first guy to do alot of shit very influental-hard rock
Steve via-Guitar god in the 80s he looked and sounded like a eddie vh ripp off when he was playing with david lee roth-hard rock/instermental
Joe S- ehhh a worse ver of via the student passed the teacher.....

all im saying is you cant compare
a old hard rock/blues player a hard rock player & and 2 shredders it wont work not the same styles of music

(sorry for all errors its late)

[marley_man]

Hmm, solos dont make songs...he may have had hella solooing but shred aint as good as Led Zep solos.

[Wiegraf]

exe zc:
You guys are all comparing uncomparable people.

1st- It's all about your personal opinions, so arguing that someones opinion is wrong is against the definition of an opinion.

2nd - They play different styles. It would be like me throwing in the comment, "Beethoven's early era compositions were much more musically dynamic than Hendrix, so therefore Hendrix sucks."

3rd (To Zepp_Head) - Hendrix's album Are You Experienced came our 2 years (1967) earlier than Led Zeppelin I (1969) so "jimmy was rippin befor hendrix was around" is wrong.

4th - And last, lets take a look at one of dictionary.com's definitions of music.
An aesthetically pleasing or harmonious sound or combination of sounds.

By 1964, Jimmy Page was supposed to have been in about 60% of all studio work in England, or something.

This is from VH1.com

Although the exact specifics of which sessions he was involved with have become hazy over time, it's confirmed that he worked with many of the day's top acts, including the Who, Them, Donovan, the Kinks, and the Rolling Stones, among others. By 1966, Page was looking to put his session work on hold and join a full-time band; he accepted an offer to play with the Yardbirds (initially as a bassist, then shortly thereafter as a guitarist), as he was paired up with another one of rock's all-time guitar greats, Jeff Beck. Although the Yardbirds began as a straight-ahead blues-rock band, with the inclusion of Page in the lineup, the group began experimenting with psychedelic and hard rock styles.

[cloudsquall17]

page was sloppy, dont u know anything bout playing, page just wanked blues scale, he was good for his time but ppl have passed him up and set the bar higher taking it to a whole new level like randy rhoads and eddie did...ynwie too but hes an asshole. i doubt u can play better than kirk u know it all egos on this topic. page is wayyyy overrated. satch and vai have amazing technique and dont tell me they have so much tech that they dont have soul.

[Zepp_head]

let me say one thing about him being slopy

ok well lests say your playing sloppy one night now if some one asked you to do it agein could you no....

jimmy page overdubd his guitar about 8 times on all the zepp albumes you cant play the same sloppyness 8 times and have them exactly the same so no he wasnt slppy thats just how he wanted it.....

lets put it this way if you went in to a room with him he would smoke all of you in a red hot second if you could even get the balls to try and out play him

[Zepp_head]

and yes via is good but who di you think he listetnd to when he was 16 and 17 zeppelin & the stones

i wouldnt talk shit about thes older guys becuase your fravriot guitarest might like them

[zappon]

not the best article...it could be better. there are things that should not be said.

Throughout the history of rock, there hasn?t been a guitarist with more ability than Joe Satriani.

???..!?!?!?!?!?! how can you sai a thing like that???

[jamstation]

wht about john macenroe?? satriani taught him guitar.. and look how he turned out!!

(look it up if you dont believe me)

[pozzobon13]

pretty bad article actually, sorry.. 1 star.

[jeevan]

satriani.....well i cant say enough about his music..
i mean yeah hes an amazin teacher, can say tht by just looking at his students, but his guitar playing is really emotional and touching.
dued the article was quite okay but u shuldnt have compared him to other guitarists, cuz then things will end up like this...
anyway cud anyone write a history of article on him or somthin.....he's my guitargod..so itll be cool if someone did...
anyway dued thanx, anithin for satch and about him is good...his atitude on stage and everythin is jus amazin.....
satch!

[radiantmoon]

lets put it this way if you went in to a room with him he would smoke all of you in a red hot second if you could even get the balls to try and out play him

oh i agree, noone in here could come close to jimmy page!!!! but the funny thing s tht the best guitar player in the world is eric clapton, he has more technique thn vai and satch put together and he has more soul thn hendrix and page so end of discussion. clapton is god!!!

[Ravedge]

man I have to be honest...

Thats one crappy article..

[gair182]

Most biased article ever. Very poor.

[james1973]

Hey dudes i have been reading your comments about Satriani and the other great players you mentioned.I myself have all the albums of Joe and i think he is very good.But nobody mentioned a player that is actually worth mentioning :Stevie Ray Vaughan.I think he is better than all of them except Hendrix.

[The Powerslave]

exe zc made the perfect arguement... until the last comment. He says
-It's all about your personal opinions.

Then he makes other perfect points, but then he says
-Therefore, I dont care how fast you can play or how technical you are, if I don't find your music pleasing it is not good music and you are not a good musician.

If he added the word 'think' in, as in I dont think your a good musician, then he would have made a valid point, but he contradicts himself, saying you shouldnt argue about opinion, then saying if he doesnt like it, then you must be bad. If he hadnt said that then he would have had an arguement to shut everyone up.
Except for cocox2.

[mastermike]

@cocox2
Neo-Classic ??? Hahahahahaha...
Think of Blackmore,Rhoads and stop beeing an egomaniac.

And all the others should not forget about Danny Gatton:
Speed, feelings (something all the vais, satchs and yngwie NEVER had, only technique)and good songs.

[Bonsaischaap]

mastermike:
@cocox2
Neo-Classic ??? Hahahahahaha...
Think of Blackmore,Rhoads and stop beeing an egomaniac.

And all the others should not forget about Danny Gatton:
Speed, feelings (something all the vais, satchs and yngwie NEVER had, only technique)and good songs.
[POSTED: 02 March 2005 - 10:28]|

I bet you've never listened to Satriani's flying in a blue dream album....

[thanatophobe]

i have listened to joe several times, and have 2 albums by steve vai. they got skills, but lack of souls. when i listen to most of their songs, i feel, damn these guys are amazing, how can they play that fast. but when i listen to jimmy page or slash's solos, i feel im into the solos.
what joe and steve doing is just finger exercise on the fretboard.

[Scourge441]

I had no idea Satch taught Larry LaLonde. Ler is a great guitarist, and makes his presence know even though Les is the main focus of the band.

Vai and Hammett just rule, plain and simple.

[gdempsey38]

Good article overall... meaning i read it and was kept busy for a few minutes. Satriani isn't the best guitarist ever. He is amazing, and is in top 15 if not in top 10, but not the best. There is more than one thing that makes guitarist great. Speed, soul, technical ability, originality, and songwriting in my opinion are the top 5 factors in what makes a guitarist great. Satriani has speed, technical ability, and originality. I could go on and on with what different guitarists have, but I won't.

[BadAssElmo]

there are tons of people better than jimi hendrix...but thats all opinion orientated! we are looking for facts bizznatch.

[Martyrion]

Satriani is wicked wild! But not the best... He's only extremely good, almost top!=) Good article!

[Martyrion]

And for the record... Hammet is no god... Just a kid with a guitar... Never liked him, never will... Metallica is dead...

[epi50002000]

Hey friend, lets get this straight, Page is a musical genius and you should never doubt that and Satriani is imense, but you have to realise a solo played by Page is full of hardcore ass kickin rock, "stairway to heaven" is a perfect example, practically everyones heard it and the solo is pure genius, but Satriani is a genius in a different way, he cant sing, have you seen the rehersal video for "is there love in space" on his website, he sings terribly so his voice is his guitar and he has to use it like a voice, people dont sing the same stuff over and over apart from shit songs, and listen to songs like "oriental melody" and "The traveler" from "strange beautiful music" and "Memories" from "Not of this earth", they only have short shred solos. The one thing that makes Page a lot more dynamic from Satriani is his solos are distinguishable like "black dog" you no what it is, whereas if you could here Satches solos individually you would struggle to tell them apart. Anyway I hope you learnt the matter of fact is Page is better generally.

[foxman]

i think most guitarist are great in their own way, like kirk probably couldnt make a country riff and visa versa same with all palyers.... thats just my opinion

[Bubonic Chronic]

Lay off it man , it makes you think like a CLOSE MINDED FUCKTARD WITH AN EGO AS BIG AS MICHAEL MOORE.

Michael Moore may have a big ego. I don't know because I've never met him.

He also has balls.

Sometimes we must forgive the (presumed) character flaws of a person in light of the fact that they are a great leader (Bill Clinton - womanizer, liar, greatest President we've had since Kennedy. Kennedy was also a womanizer, he just had better taste than Clinton.)



Michael Moore had the nuts to put his career (and possibly his life) on the line to openly criticize the most undemocratic, secretive and imperialistic Presidential administration since...ever. Even Hitler was basically open about his plans to conquer the world. Bush lies about it. Scum.

Three cheers for Michael Moore! Maybe he's not a model human being (maybe he is,) but he's certainly a provacative and incredibly courageous film maker. Like him or not HE HAS MORE BALLS THAN YOU. Period.

Now I'll comment on the article:

It's ok. Meh.

Wow, satch solos 85% of the time. I made a CD where I soloed 100% of the time. I guess I'm better.

:rolleyes:

(I'm not)

Further, the vocals in Primus are very folk and bluegrass influenced. I doubt he could sing us an Opera, but the man can tell a story.

Plus, how do three greats make Satch a great teacher? I turned out pretty good and I had some pretty crappy teachers. Granted, I had one good one (ok, two, but one only lasted a month), but most of the work was my own.

[playonforever]

good gytur player

[Flying Pee]

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[Flying Pee]

Jimmy Page is overrated. And to say that Kirk sucks beacause he doesent wank his guitar all the time is just stupid. Kirk can WAY faster than he does on the records but he isnt a show of. he dont play fast just for the sake of it

[cbobak88]

why does everyone have to think they know everything in here?

[ollerom_mot]

right, it was a fairly poor article, unless it's aim was to spark off a ginormous opinionathon. i'm sure people will agree with me here, that arguing about this isn't really going to get anyone anywhere, so i've left my comment of what i thought of the article, and a little message. i'll check back in a bit to see if it's calmed down.

[Unourrit01]

first jimmy page is not overrated and a genius when it comes to music and second all the guitarist mentioned here are good and we will never know who is the best guitarist ever because everone has different styles of playing

[jiveasshonky]

ok all of you who are saying that page is better than satriani...or satriani is better than page, are flat out retarded. you may like satriani better but that doesnt make him a better player and you could say the same about page. i love both i think both guitarists are amazing but comparing guitarists is stupid because there will never be a guitarist who everyone can say is the best. there are people who think that tom delonge is the best that ever lived and even if we dont agree w/it its their opinion and btw if you say satch plays mindless solos ur an idiot he has songs and good ones too. same goes for page if you dont like either guitarist SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DONT POST

[acdc101]

Jimmy Page is overrated. And to say that Kirk sucks beacause he doesent wank his guitar all the time is just stupid. Kirk can WAY faster than he does on the records but he isnt a show of. he dont play fast just for the sake of it

How is Jimmy Page overated? Because he is probably the most inventive person ever to pick up the guitar? I doubt you ever listen or even know anything about Page. Joe Satriani is good, but he is definetely not as creative or innovative as Page. His whole style was developed before him.

[bassdrum]

Okay, solo lengths are bad to rate the skill of a guitarist. Joe Satriani is a really good guitar player, but he pretty much solos all the time. It takes talent to play in a band, so don't judge Jimmy Page by the one minute solos. Joe may have more technical ability, but Jimmy Page way way more imaginative, versatile and creative the Joe.

[SatchBoogie87]

Joe Satriani is my favorite guitarist, which shouldn't be hard to tell. But what I will say is that he's far from the most techincal player in any style of music. He's mostly a left hand player. Most of his solos revolve around legatto technique, instead of picking every note. Vai is a much more balanced guitarist. However, I think Joe's melodies and overall style is better, but that's just me.

[dre-0]

Very Very interesting, learn something everday

regardless of how good or bad the guitarist he thought are

ITS still 3 AMAZING guitarist he thought

[rjc_15]

Has anybody noticed how this has become one big ego trip after another. Look, do this, respect the music people create. It takes a lot to get where people are in life. Obviously, Jimi, Yngwie, Satch, Vai, Hammett, and Page were not slackers. Take a break from this crap, pick up your guitar, and learn something. And by the way, it isn't about who can play the fastest, kick out the best rhythms or whatever the hell they do with tapping, it's about emotion. Raw emotion is what made all these players great and legendary.

[reloader]

Reloader:
Joe Satriani RULES!!!.. All those mother***ers who are defending Jimmy Page, they don't want to accept that Satriani is way more imaginative, versatile and creative than Page. Jimmy Page came before Satriani, we know that, but there will be some better than you outhere and SATRIANI's music is way better the PAGE's.

[Zepp_head]

FOR THE LAST TIME NITHER OF THEM ARE BETTER THEN THE OTHER!!!

JIMMY PAGE IS A BLUES PLAYER
JOE IS A INSTERMENTALIST
NOT THE SAME AND EVEN YOU COULD FACE THEM TOGEATHER WHY WOULD YOU???

DO YOU THINK JOE SITS AT HOME AND SAYS IM BETTER THEN JIMMY PAGE IM A WAY BETTER PLAYER I WRITE WAY BETTER MUSI???.. NO HE DOSENT HE PROBLY LIKES JIMMY

JUST STOP MAKEING THES THREADS AND IF YOU STILL WANNA BASH PAGE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ANY OF YOU SIT IN A ROOM AND TRY AND OUT PLAY HIM YOU WHOULDNT EVEN TUCH A GUITAR IF YOU WHERE NEAR HIM

[Zepp_head]

LETS PUT IT THIS WAY GUYS

THEY ALL ARE BETTER THEN US SO WHY DO YOU TALK SHIT

I LIKE THEM ALL KIRK JIMMY JIMI JOE STEVE BUT THAT DOSENT MEAN ONES BETTER THEN THE NEXT

I HAPPEN TO LIKE PAGE HES MY IDOL BUT THAT DOSENT MEAN I THINK HES BETTER BUT THAT DOSENT MEAN JOE OR VIA ARE BETTER

[DaveGilmour1189]

You guys are getting a little single- minded. Page, Hendrix, Vai, Satch, they're all great. I just depends on what you like.
I will say that style, rythum and tone are what makes a guitarist good, not technical ability or the length of the solo

[DaveGilmour1189]

Sorry, by tone, i mean how cool or good the music sounds

[Turtles-r-cool]

Lol, this makes me laugh


AND YOU KNOW, YOU FORGET THE GUITARRIST THAT MADE NEOCLASSIC STYLE, THE ONE THAT KIRK, EDDIE, JOE AND EVERY HEAVY GUITARRIST USES TO MAKE HIS SONGS, YEAH MAN, HIS NAME IS:

..YNGWIE MALMSTEEN

SO, READ THIS, LISTEN TO YNGWIE'S SONGS, THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID, AND THEN...RATE THIS SHIT, OK?
SEE YOU GUYS

^^yngwie is freakin freakin awesome, and so is satch, and so is vai

[hobo8917]

wow i'm glad this article is unbiased...

[nirvallica]

umm im not sure about this cause i've only read parts of this but did anyone mention eric clapton, the best guitarist of all time, in this. Ive watched clapton hammett page (admitably not satriani) play on dvds n shit and as much as i love hammett claton is just the best guitarist eva betta then hendrix

[Silvior]

Anyone heard of Øystein Sunde?
Eric Clapton once (probably more than once, but anyway)recieved an award for best guitarist ever. When he got on stage he said something like: " This award doesnt belong to me. It belongs to a man in a cold cold country far up north, the country is called Norway and the man is called (with really bad pronounsiation) Øystein Sunde."
Slash, of Guns`n`Roses also rates this guy as the best guitarist in the world. To bad all his songs are in Norwegian otherwise he would be much more famous and much more appreciated.
By the way I believe Buckethead is the best guitarist skillwise, he is of another world.
"he`s half alive and he`s half dead, folks just call him Buckethead"

[Dave_Grohl]

i was listenin to joe today, midnight is one if the best things i think ive ever heard played on the guitar

[numetaldude]

sure, satriani is great, but you shouldn't have used that soloing percentage as an argument, because it doesn't mean shit if he soloes much more in one song..

there are lots of factors you failed to consider: showmanship, innovation (playing your guitar with a violin bow or making noises with an antenna), spontaneity (being able to make something up without thinking), emotion, influence... these things alone make jimmy page a whole lot better than satriani.. there are more things that make a guitarist than just technique..

[Strummin4him]

Tom delong is better then them all

;p

[erling]

anyone heard of Øystein Sunde? yes...he is great..I love him...the lyrics are awesome too

[Drell*]

BAD ARTICLE

[Rodders]

Terrible article.....

levelwisedallas:That article was awful. 15% of a Zeppeling song, being 1 minute? The average Led Zep song was 9 minutes?

Most of Zed Zeppelin's songs were of average four minute length-hardly any were 9 minutes long.....

I agree about the article.....

[Zepp_head]

dont say eric clpatons the best there is no best, and if there was he wouldnt be it.....

dose any one know who lindesy buckingham is?

[beaker]

to the person who said about Øystein Sunde, i beleive jimmy hendrix also once got asked "whats it like being the greatest guitar player on earth" only for jimi to reply "i dont know, go ask phil keaggy"

[jmizzle]

Stevie Ray is the man...everyone knows that. Nobody else plays with that kind of emotion for that long.

[Strummin4him]

^^ B.B King does

[addvent]

satriani is wonderful if youve seen him live youd know the trance that he puts you in. you can actually hear the guitar singing all the way through his songs
kirk is good to but you can tell that the styles of those you are comparing differ greatly

Page vs. Hammett?...

at any rate how bout you do your homework and put up an article about mr. zakk wylde

[robam]

All I need to say is when a guitarist can write a song like In My Time of Dying (check it out live at Earl's Court) and then a song like Bron-Yr-Aur Stomp (check it out live at Earl's Court also) that makes them an amazing player. To write a heavy rock song or a mellow acoustic riff, Page could play any style and put his soul into it, Since I've Been Loving You live is a perfect example, plus he tears shit up at the beginning

[costa94]

idk wtf to say....i love all the techincal guys liek satch and vai..but my favorite is eric johnson...cliffs of dover is my favorite song and i love the way his guitar sounds..and as for hendrix..dude hes ***in hendrix sfu hes amazing...i think there are ppl that are as good as him but hendrix made guitar what it is today....and page and satirani?..two totally diff types of music...if u love guitar u should love them both and i dont think neone can really say yngwie sucks....hes the fastest player on the planet...but kerry king sucks and hes fast....i jsut thikn yngwie thinks a guitar is just a tool and not really an expression

[HendrixVaughn75]

ok this is retarded u all need to leanr to distinguish betwqeen something and that is a guitar player and a guitarist. guitar player being someone with extreme technical ability and a guitarist being someone who may have lacked some technical aspects but still was incredibly influential and amaing in his own right. satriani vai and yngwie can all take page clapton and hendrix to town in terms of technique nut even vai and stach can be takend out by pat metheny al di meola, and shawn lane. they are better guitar players. But in terms of being guitarists, i wouldnt rank satch vai di meola and such as high. its here where hendrix and page should get there praise. they were inluential they changed music . i like them both
i mean i think hendrix and page getting boring fast
but likewise after a while of satch he stars to bore me too. the music is about expression as costa 94 said, and stev and joe put just as mcuch emotion into their solosand songs as hendrix and page , its just presented differently. i also agree that yngwie comits musical masterbation everytime he walks on a stage cus the only person recieving true pleasure from his playing is himself

[ebashnitzil]

satch is amazing but you're saying he's the greatest ever besides hendrix - overation???

and the whole thing about 85% soloing, it's INSTRUMENTAL ROCK - of course it's soling

and you're saying Satch is better than Zeppelin because there are more solos?? Music and guitar abilities isn't about the solos (obviously - haven't you heard this a million times already??)

Satch is amazing though, but this article sucks

[metalneck]

Man, as soon as someone says one guitarist is better than they other it turns into "my dad can beat up your dad."
What about all those blues guys who started it all.

[aliceinnirvana]

This is rubbish mate, you do no justice to Satch.

[Valhalla]

I say Keith Moon is the greatest guitar player ever.

[SRVMM]

you know something out of all this guitar talk on whos the best an all this ***in bullshit i never heard Stevie Ray Vaughns name mentioned once which is a big big big surprise considering he re-invented blues in a totally different way noone ever thought of. Stevie played with his heart every time he played. He played with so much passion an emotion more than i think Vai, Satch, Paige ever did. And i know that if anyone here is a real guitarist or even slightly knows anything bout music they would agree with me !!!.. Besides i rather listen to an SRV solo than anyones!

[SRVMM]

as a matter of fact instead of makin all this noice about whos better lets give a moment of silence to SVR an Jimi who we all know are the two best ever to play.

[Zepp_head]

srv was good but he was a ripp off of jimi and thats why jimi lost it for me after srv could do it it wasnt that heard any one could they where good but they whernt the best.....

if i had to say who one of the best is it would be lindesy buckingham

[demon_LLAMA]

oh, and i must state one thing:

John Petrucci + Michael Romeo + Shawn Lane + Paul Guilbert > all

Hammett is a sloppi little boy who can't hold a rythm for rotten cheese. (James is much better)

Vai is better than Satch (technical), but Satch's melody has yet to be matched in rock'n roll (my opinion)

But Petrucci totally owns them both on soloing ability.

[arjeysee]

cocox2:
WELL MY FRIENDS, YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PLAYING THE GUITAR. YOU GUYS THINK THAT IF SOMETHING SOUNDS GOOD AND YOU CAN'T PLAY IT, (BECAUSE IM SURE THAT YOU CANT PLAY ANYTHING OF EDDIE V.H. OR KIRK H.). SO, YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING MAN... JIMI WAS NOT THE BEST GUITARRIST EVER, YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE IDIOTS, JIMI WAS GREAT, BUT HE ONLY TOOK THE FUNKY STYLE AND MIXED IT WITHG SOME ROCK AND ROLL, HIS SOLOS WERE HORRIBLES, HE DONT HAD ANY SPEED OR TECHNIC PLAYING, HE ONLY BEND THE STRINGS, NOTHING ELSE.
KIRK WAS, IS, AND IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE BEST GUITARRIST EVER, BUT NOT BECAUSE HE PLAY SOME KICK ASS SOLOS, BECAUSE HE MADE HIS OWN HEAVY STYLE, BUT, IF YOU GUYS KEEP LEARNING SOME FUCKING TABS OF NIRVANA, BLINK OR ALL THAT SHIT, YOU NEVER WILL REALIZE; KIRK SOLOS WERE PRETTY FUCKING EASY TO PLAY, AND YOU SAID TO US TO LISTEN TO "ONE" WELL, THAT SONG IS THE MOST STUPID TO PLAY, THE SOLO (IM COMPLETELY SURE THAT YOU THINK THAT SOLO IS THE BEST OF METALLICA..... BUT YOU ARE WRONGGG..) THATS ONLY A VERY DUMB TAPPING OF 2 STRINGS, IS VERY EASYYY.., BUT IM SURE THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHATS TAPPING, YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE YOU SPEND ALL DAY "TRYING" TO PLAY "SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT" OF NIRVANA, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE MOST EASY SONG EVER, IF YOU CANT PLAY THAT EASY RIFF, FORGET ABOUT WRITING ABOUT SOLOS AND HEAVY GUITARRISTS.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU FORGET THE GUITARRIST THAT MADE NEOCLASSIC STYLE, THE ONE THAT KIRK, EDDIE, JOE AND EVERY HEAVY GUITARRIST USES TO MAKE HIS SONGS, YEAH MAN, HIS NAME IS:

..YNGWIE MALMSTEEN

SO, READ THIS, LISTEN TO YNGWIE'S SONGS, THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID, AND THEN...RATE THIS SHIT, OK?
SEE YOU GUYS

***..

I'D DRINK TO THIS MAN!!! THIS PEOPLE HERE DOESN,T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYIN'!!!
IT ONLY PROVES THAT YOU ARE ALL GUITAR IDIOTS!!!

[arjeysee]

EVERYONE KEEPS ON COMPLIMENTING HENDRIX THAT FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, HE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO TUNE HIS GUITAR!!! JUST BECOZ HE PLAYED LEADS FIRST, IT DOESN'T MEAN HIS GREAT!!! COMMON BE REAL!!! IT HURTS BUT WE HAVE TO ADMIT THAT GUITAR PLAYING BEFORE THE 80s TOTALLY SUCKS!!! JUST LEAVE THEM TO YOUR GRANDPAS!!!

IF YOU ARE REALLY A SERIOUS GUITARIST OR LETS SAY "A GUITARIST REALLY" YOU WON'T EVEN AGREE THAT SATCH IS A SHREDDER!!! MAN, HAVE YOU SEEN THE G3 TOURS??? HE'S TOTALLY OUT OF PLACE COMPARED TO HIS G3 COMPANIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SHREDDING!!! HE'S GOT TECHNIC THOUGH WHICH MADE HI GREAT BUT THAT'S ALL HE HAD!!!

YOU GUYS KEEP ON CRITICIZING GUITARIST, THE DEEPEST THING YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT GUITAR MUSIC ID "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD??" COMMON THAT THING IS GOOD BUT VERY BORING...
HAVE YOU HEARD OF "MICHAEL ANGELO BATIO???" OR VINNIE MOORE??? OR HAVE YOU HEARD OF MARTY FRIEDMAN'S SOLO ALBUMS??? YOUR JIMI HENDRIX OR JIMMY PAGE ARE JUST DIRT WHEN COMPAIRED TO THIS GUITARIST, NOT TO MENTION "THE MAESTRO YNGWIE MALMSTEEN"....

TRY TO PLAY ANY DREAM THEATER SOLO (JOHN PETRUCCI)AND THEN COMPARE TO THOSE YOU TRADITIONALLY PLAY, OR THE SONGS THAT YOU CAN ONLY PLAY!!!

MAN, THERE'S A LOT OF GUITARIST OUT THERE MILES AHAED OF YOUR JOE SATRIANI... I'LL RANK HIM #30 IF I'M GONNA RANK THEM ALL...JIMI H.??? MAYBE HE'S FAR MOR #200!!!!

WHAHAHA


SO COCOX2, WE'VE GOT TO TEACH THIS GUYS WHAT GUITAR PLAYING IS ALL ABOUT!!!

[nick_kirk]

I read in a net article that malmsteen reckons hammett is faster than he is. SO there. He also said that his music is more interesting than Hammett though and you have to remember that Malmsteen only knows one scale and he's an up-his-own-arse egomaniacal douche. I know like 20 more scales than malmsteen. I rather proper band music. If you play in a band you would know. Its just exponentially better than crappy one-man-bands like Satch. Hendrix only earns props cuz he started it all, his actual playing is overrated. Umm I reckon Tommy Emmanuel kicks arse. He cant play as fast or as technical as all of the above people but he is actually interesting 100% of the time, even though he only does plain blues. In the heart and soul department you cant forget that spic guy...whats his name...Santana. He can play one bent note and you know its him. He isn't even technical at all and he rocks out. Next big thing is Omar Rodriguez-Lopez of the Mars Volta. He rocks out drugged out style like Hendrix but hes actually good. Im gunna have to download that Oystein Sunde stuff, sounds cool. Theres my two cents. Flame me all you want. I have better things to do, like play guitar instead of arguing about it. And theres no 1 best guitarist ever really, your all just sheep following each others arses, Jimi isn't the best, get over him.

[doormatt]

cocox2, do u get a hard-on for capital letters or something? you only have to move your pinky finger an inch.. turn the caps lock off for ***'s sakes. you rank top 10 easily in dumbest ***s of all time. To hell with this article. Satch is great, but its illogical to compare him with Jimmy Page or any other innovative guitarist for they have complete different styles. They were all absolutely great. To say one is better than another is not fair because youre ignorant and inferior in knowledge and skill. theyve all made a great dent in the plate of rock and roll, and nothing else really matters, especially not how long you solo in each song. back to cocox, you hav just made many a thousand enemies today. Merry Christmas. You and your caps-lock fetished ass will surely burn in hell for pure arrogance and stupidity.

[Sabre0001]

article sucks...i agree that its not the solo that makes a great song and no guitarist is goin to sit t home goin - 'better than him, and him, and hime...Im great!'

Solo has to fit the song imo...And by the way - to some posters here...The 'ENTER' button is your friend

[Munje]

Dumbest article ever. Also dumbest list of comments ever. You people are all wrong. Dumbass.

[Stratwizard]

^True. This just started a stupid debate about "who's the best guitarist" News flash: There's not such a thing as best guitarist. You all have your own opinions and they all stink. Stop comparing Satch, Vai, Page and Hendrix. They all have their own style and Page and Hendrix played in a all diffrent era than Satch and Vai.

[Stratwizard]

...yeah and to the article writer: Get decent information before you write. This is the most worthless bullshit that I've ever seen.

[Axl_Slash_rock]

holy shit Steve Vai was taught by Joe Satriani that's f*kin awesome coz ilove Vai's solo .....The Satch Man is good ok great and his solos are great as well as fast ..... as for page he has some amazing solos .... so u can't compare these 2 guitar guru's ..... anyways talking about kirk i think he is great too anyways ...an okay article

[sir_shreddalot]

satch is a ***in great guiarist he is one of the most technically brillinat guitarists ever. But i cant listen to a whole album of him i get bored.You cant really compare him and jimmy page but i would say even though satch is probably a better guitarist than page i would rather listen to a zeppelin album because they also have a great vocalist, drummer and bassist. As to kirk Hammett hes one of the best guitarists ever to pick up an axe and shred the shit out of it and id rather listen to metallica than any of the other artists mentioned.

[sir_shreddalot]

as a load of other people have already said its not all about solos its about the whole song. however a solo can tip the balance from a good song to a great song. as long as its a solo and not just some show off indulging his ego. solos have to fit with the song

[Zepp_head]

LISTEN YOU RETARDED KIDS WHO LIKE TO COMPARE COMPLETLY DIFFRENT GUITAR PLAYERS!!!..

michael batio wasnt a shredder he started off playing led zeppleing tunes it took him years and years to play like that..... SO DO YOU THINK HE THINKS HES BETTER THEN JIMMY PAGE???? NO NO NO They are All Great guitar players all of them Not one better then the next and as for the *** head who said can you play any Eddie vh or Kirk H.... YEA I CAN, CAN YOU? No ones saying VIA or SACH arnt good BUT BY NO MEANS ARE THEY THE BEST..... JUST LIKE SRV AND JIMI HENDRIX WHERE GREAT BUT NOT THE BEST THERE IS NO BEST!!!..

IF WE HAD TO PCIK SOME I WOULD SAY
Lindsey Buckingham
Jimmy Page
Vai
Eddie Vh
Santana

BUT THATS ALL OPINION MINES NOT BETTER THEN ANY ONE ELSES!!!.. GET OVER YOU SELFS DAMN AND STOP BASHING THE GUYS WHO INVENTED ROCK

arnt caps annoying

[metal_moshpit]

lol, time for metallica bashing....
nah
i think it was for the best that mustaine was fired from metallica. mustaine then went to form megadeth and metallica recruited kirk from exodus which made them get a better guitarist, because lets face it, kirk is not up there with the greats really.
mustaine wrote most solos off kill em all and wrote the greats, master of puppets and ride the lightning as well as others. Kirk's solos have the same irritating sound and are similar.

also, the big four thrash metal shouldn't have metallica anymore because they've stopped playing it since load.
last thing, alex scholnick (or whatever) was another great student of satch

[metal_moshpit]

just so i get a little less criticisms for this, i dont think metallica are a bad band.
i just think their guitarist is extremely overrated and i much prefer others
also their last album isnt thrash metal....no solos!! can't really think of a distinctive genre to put them in.

[metal_moshpit]

^^^..
my opinions, why does anyone need to hear them, i dunno but if everyone else gets to rant i wanna too

[grin04]

There is no use having a peter pulling contest about who is a more kickass guitarist. Who you like and who influences you is personal preference. Personally I am not a big fan of Satriani's music, I like full bands, with or without screaming solos. There is no such thing as The Best Guitar Player In The World.

Take this into consideration, Hammett and his solos, without Hetfield there to fill in rythem, Hammett would be lost. The music a "band" plays has to play off of itself. But according to some people in here what you say doesn't matter. This could have been a post with no arguments in it, but somebody always has to *** it up.

I'm done, every guitarist that has been listed in this post is amazing in their on way.

[MayallRules]

Fuck all this bullshit, you all should go listen to some blues, get back to your roots.....try some B.B, or Robert Cray.... hell check out kenny wayne and jonny lang while your at it.

[SRVMM]

W.E. DONT CARE ANYMORE THERE ALL GREAT GUITARIST THEY REALLY ARE BUT THE ONES EVERY1 WILL REMEMBER THE MOST BECAUSE OF ALL THE GREAT SOLO'S AN SONGS THEY DID IS GONNA BE HENDRIX SRV PAGE VIA AN SATCH AN MAYBE HOMMET LOL THOSE ARE THE TOP 5 PUT THEM IN ANY ORDER YOU WANT THOSE ARE THE TOP 5 OF ALL TIME

[mr_johnny_lee]

I personally prefer Satriani to Page but that doesn't mean I don't think Page is a great guitarist. Besides, Satriani's stuff isn't all solos, alot of his songs are instrumentals with solos in if that makes any sense.

[ChickenBone]

Actually Satriani is not as clean as some guitarists such as Eric Johnson. Compared to Vai, he actually plays a bit sloppy. But I would disagree with the Jimi Hendrix comment. Comparing his ability before to some excellent examples of today(Michael Angelo Batio, Satriani, Malmsteen, Paul Gilbert, Vai, etc) he is just blown away. Hendrix would be the greatest of HIS time but not of today. Now back to Satriani. His technical ability can possibly be the best. But not much on creativity compared to his student, Vai. Steve has the ability to transmit a world of emotions in a whole wide variety of genres. May it be a bit of blues, rock, cultural, or something undescribable.

[Resiliance]

Not exactly the most well-informed article...

[benjiboy89]

now shut the *** upp everyone.. enough comparing here

[Lord_Abortion]

psykopoo do the world a favorit and die. Please...

[zakk_wylde4]

Technical ability isn't everything, Steve Vai is so boring to listen to, his music does nothing for me, 75% of Satriani's shit is the same boring shit over and over, 100,000 people can shred and play everything like Vai and Satch. Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page developed new styles that were unheard of, that's why they're the best.

[Valhalla]

Wait I changed my mind, Gary Glitter is the best.

[altronataku]

kirk hammet used to be REALLY good but hes out of his peak and is deteriorating. dave mustaine WAS also equally as good but nows hes permanently damaged his arm. hendrix and page and stevie ray vaughn has great style, a lot better than vai. just because vai can play faster doesnt mean hes better. hendrix can play with more control and soul. but in the end, i think these guitarists all balance out as the greatests in their respective field.

[bluebandit]

How do define a great guitarist? Most of you use techincal ability but that's not really what counts to the average listener. In terms of actually inspiring people to pick up a guitar and learn to play it, Satriani and Vai don't make the list. People want to play because of Hendrix, Page, and even Cobain. Does that make them greater? Yes, because the greatest technical guitarist might live in my basement but no one cares if they've never heard of him.

[stiff-upper-lip]

you can't compare Satch to Led Zep, they're totaly different genres of music. try comparing him to Yngwie then we have to somthing solid to compare against because he does Vocals and solos. but i agree, he is one of the best, maybe not the best, but still great and yes he was and is a great teacher.

[Benesyed]

i think this argument that Satch doesnt do chords and melody is pure bs. Im pretty damn sure when u know the technical and musical theory he does, i could kick up "soulful" lik easily. There isnt anything all that amazing about Page (IMO) he is good but not better than satch. Im pretty sure that the only reason satch doesnt have influence is because he isnt mainstream. Satchs music is for technique guitarists.

[AusFender911]

Soloing isn't everything.
Chill the f*ck out

[r_lightning]

now shut the f*ck up and stop comparing heroes with heroes..

[julian2k4]

r_lighning can suck my dick !!!..

[Spanner]

Joe Satriani can not, compare to Page, and he never will. Page has a musical soul, he plays the most basic guitar solos, and the most basic riffs you have ever heard (well I have heard simpler). But do you know why he is still enormously popular? do you know why just about anyone can listen and love his music?, because he has feel, soul, passion, and he really puts his all into his playing. Where as Satch is just a load of noodling (yes he is a good teacher though), and anyone could get bored of his random noises in minutes (I do), why? because his songs dont mean anything. So its Page all the way.

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[Spanner]

Yeah that should not have coe out so screwy

[Spanner]

Yeah that should not have come out so screwy

[SweetBuda]

None of you have heard Master of the Mortals, the Lord of the World, the Great DONOVAN GONZALEZ, he is the best in every aspect, shredding, blues, rock, metal, hes the fastest, the cleanest, the most espiritual, hes the Icon in Guitar playing man, forget about vai, satch, those are like turtles beside him. Even michael Angelo seems slow beside this Monster.

[mariachi2487]

cocox2:
YOU sir, are an ass!

[JayBro]

Øystein Sunde might actually be the best guitarist in the world. However, he's sort of wasting his talent: for the last 20 years he's been making humorous music in Norwegian. His songs are known for being very funny, but few Norwegians realize how brilliant he plays. I'd really love to find some verification on Clapton's comment. After having seen Sunde play extreme solo's with the guitar on his back, I believe Clapton might just have made the comment. By the way, at least the worlds fastest guitarist is undoubtedly Norwegian: his name is Magnus Paus. Look nop further than Guiness' Book of Record. He plays with a stone plecter and his fingers are said to be so-called "hyper-mobile".

[jgfx]

Satriani is definetly my favorite guitarist but I like Vai, Hammett and Page as well. Satriani is a great composer for his style of music but you must hear a subtantial amount of his catalog not just a couple of songs before you make a judgement. Page was definitely on all around great composer and producer, he was great with arrangements for all instruments not just guitars. As far as rock bands go, I'd say Led Zep was the greatest. Alot of Led Zep stuff was acoustic also adding diversity. Hammett had the most interesting and memorable solo's for metal being mostly classically inspired. Vai plays alot like Satch but sometimes a little faster with more tapping and his music is a little more wacky with alot of versatility and he likes to demonstrate just about everything u can do on a guitar. Michael Angelo Batio is the fastest player I've ever seen, very precise and clear as far as speed goes: http://www.angelo.com/Time_Traveler_solo.mp3 So every guitarist has something to offer which is great because you have alot to choose from to listen to. So to me for example, the reason I like Satriani is because he is not Page, and vice versa. What would it be like if there wasn't variety? So I think this forum should discuss the unique attributes of each performer instead of trying to make comparisions which is usually purely subjective anyway.

[ugthanamug]

John Mayer, so much feeling!
As for solo's i like blues and rock n' roll type stuff so Page is right up my alley. I can appreciate Joe Satriani and Vai and everyone else from a technical standpoint, but it just doesn't make me feel anything. I think the argument is emotion vs technicality.

peace

[Spanner]

Cocox2: Listen up you shallow cunt wad!!!, you know jack shit about music mate, absolutely jackshit!!. I have been teaching music for over 20 years now, and I can not say that I have met anyone else as stupid as you.
Hendrix was hell of a lot better than any of the shite you were describing. Hendrix took a popular music style (blues) and made his own style (Rock/Blues), and do you know why he was so popular?!! Do you know why these (intelligent) musicians like Jimi Hendrix? Because Hendrix has soul feel and passion, his music is actual music (expression), where as the shite that you were describing (Malmsteen) is a load of meaningless random crap, Yngwie is one of the worst guitarists I have ever heard, he tried to fuse two of the world's greatest styles of music (Classical and Rock) and he FAILED MISERABLY!!!.
You can not judge a guitarist on their technique you stupid smelly rocker, the same applies to you arjeysee. "We need to teach these guys about guitar playing", they know a hell of alot more than you, you smelly rockers!!!! give up guitar playing right now you idiots, because immature idiots like you are not wanted!!!
P.S: Take it from someone with 20 years of experience guys, they are talking through there arses (they dont know what they are talking about), so keep on jamming you guys, dont let them put you off.

Spanner.

[pinion18]

see. instrumental guitar rock is about showing off. music with guitar solos in it is about adding a color to the song that makes it more interesting. I am not impressed by people who play because they want people to worship them. Kirk Hammett was never egotistical. Neither was Jimmy Page. And Hendrix's feedback sounds like shit. Listen to the star spangled banner at woodstock. Why would you want to hear that more than once?

[lindex]

Ah the adolescent arguments that ensue over guitar porn.
I just can't read this thread anymore.

[nirvallica]

for all you people bagging hammett, hammett is a guitar god wheater you like it or not so he doesnt have the best technique his solos sound better then almost any other guitarist out there. im not saying hes better then steve vai or anything but steve has gotta be one of the best guitarists ever to awlk the earth. and you cant say jimmi page was bad just because he didnt solo for hours and hours? he has been one of the most influential guitarists of all time, his solos sound perfect and his riffs are polished

[Gothic_ed]

this guy must be an idiot, a song without lyrics? And 85% of it is him soloing? I can't claim to have heard it but a whole album of that would be pretty boring. I bet Led Zeppelins songs are overall far better to listen to

[iam cool]

hey guys yer just like to say that "gothic_ed" is bein a bit harsh. the article is good and holds true facts. you cant say that if you havnt claimed to have heard it. once you know for sure wot satch is like you can be a kool dude and call people idiots.

[iam cool]

ps iam cool

[mackdaddy]

it isnt about technical skills it's about playing songs that fit in. Hammet plays adequate, fitting music for Metallica, Satriani plays fitting music for a Solo artist. Page plays fine for Zeppelin. thats all.

[darksied]

Jimmy Page's name is actually bigger and better than he is. ANYONE who thinks he is a great guitarist needs to get their head out of their ass. Kirk plays more melody then ripping it. If you have ever been to a Metallica concert, you would know. On records he is more concered about making the solo sound good than trying to impress people. Stairway to Heaven is horrible. That is eight minutes i will never have back of my life. It would have been better spent mowing the lawn. I have been a guitarist for 20 years, and i can play every Jimmy Page solo with my left just doing hammer-ons and pull-offs. Kirk still, to this day, amazes me. Jimmy Page isn't that good. Wake up people, there's a reason Metallica is still around and Led Zepplin is dead (thank god!) And, Satch rules.

[Spanner]

Ye, that reason is, modern people(such as yourself) are idiots, and cant judge music for shit, "i can play every Jimmy Page solo with my left hand just doing hammer ons and pull offs" (shakes head and sighs)

[darksied]

I'm sorry Spanner, where you trying to say something insulting? I'm sure that someone like yourself has an opinion about music that everyone else in the world should follow, because all of your opinions and the way you judge music is correct. Damn, if I only knew sooner I wouldn't have ever listened to something soo sweet to ears as Kirk Hammett and stuck with Jimmy Page.

[darksied]

Jimi Hendrix rocked, period. He was sloppy has hell, but still a great guitarist. He did change music, but so did Elvis, and nobody says he's a great guitarist. Feeling isn't everything in music, either. If you make a song based completly off your emotions, sure, it'll be emotional, but that doesn't mean it'll be good. Unless your emotions happen to be - I'm in a superfast mood where I want to shred, and just go crazy. My mom can play emotionally, and she's been playing about three months. The Unforgiven by Metallica has tons of feeling in it, and look at it, (I love it) but its not as good as Circles, or Jibbomm. As for the guy that said Steve Vai doesn't have any emotion in his guitar playing, he started crying during his concert in London. Satch does Rule.

[Spanner]

No I wasnt, I just hate it when people judge musicians on how well they are doing(sales wise), or how hard it is to play their music, not to say that is the wrong way, I just think its stupid.

[Spanner]

By the way your sarcasim is soooo funny, sooo.. funny

[darksied]

thanks

[metal4all]

darksied, Led Zeppelin was a f***ng sweet band because they could make compositions. Everything in their songs went together perfectly well and had its own place to benefit every other note. for playing 20 years as you say im surprised you dont know what talent is. (im not saying i dont live Kirk, hes my hero). and this was a sorta biased article even though satch rules.

[rockergurl09]

Sad... I could have come up with that off the top of my head right now. Also, you said the article would be about Satch and his famous students. It was really a mixture of fun facts and statistics about his students. There was little to nothing about the actual Satch or his solo career.

[rockergurl09]

Spanner wrote:

Ye, that reason is, modern people(such as yourself) are idiots, and cant judge music for shit, "i can play every Jimmy Page solo with my left hand just doing hammer ons and pull offs" (shakes head and sighs)

sorry, but since you are living, aren't you a "modern person", you hypocrite?

[Jaffaps2]

Since this topic has totally jumped the shark with the above comment I'll add my own thoughts on Satch.

I met the man himself last night and got his autograph, put on a great show too!

[Stranger333]

TO be honest, it is all just down to personal opinion. it's like saying that slayer are so much better than beethoven ever was. well... not really, cos they are bth completely different.
satch and vai are shredding technical guitarists, hendrix awoke everyone to the possibilities of the guitar, and kirk showed everyone that you don't have to be amazing at shredding to be an all round good guitarist.

[Stranger333]

everyone here is here because they love guitar, so ignore who doesnt like your favourite guitarist, because this is an argument that no one can win.

[Earang]

there is no such thing as a "best" player, there is just too many styles and people tend to have a habbit to say that everything they dont like is bad, or sucks or whatever, you'll never have a "best" guitar player, nor a best drummer or bassist, or anything for that matter, extend your horizons, dont listen to one style, but embrace all, makes you play better and makes you more open minded

peace!
Earang

[sambora]

wankers, hammett was already with metallica when he went to satriani ti refine his playing make it more structured, similar with vai, they were 98 percent there....satriani helped with economy of motion and what not

[Guitargod12345]

Come on there are people better than Hendrix, it's just Hendrix was the most influental.

[Neon Knight]

such a horrible column, Satch never went to Berkleys.

[SillyRabbit]

How dare you compare to Led Zeppelin.

[Vrstone87]

MichaelBrigham wrote:

The students you listed are great , but Kirk Hammett? One of the greats? Thats bullshit , Kirk Hammett is OKAY at best , but no way one of the greats .

Your right anyone can top his solos from Kill 'Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ...And Justice for All, right?

I'm sure that "Jimmy Page" could beat those solos...

And Jimmy Page is awesome, too, but in a differnt way than Hammet.

Page is good, but sloppy as hell, Hammet is very clean in his abilities.

[Hawaiiguy]

Look, they're all terrific guitarists.

IN MY OPINION only, what makes Satch so great is that his songs have so much SOUL in them. He's not all about speed. He has mellower stuff that is ageless and I could listen to over and over. That's the difference IN MY OPINION between him, Vai, Malmsteen, etc. I can listen to Satriani non-stop, but I can't do that with Vai or Malmsteen. Guitar playing isn't only about speed, it's also about feeling and melody and soul. Satch has all of that in abundance. On the other hand, if you're all about speed then sure, Yngwie or EVH may be your guys.

[nikhil_singh87]

He taught slash as well....i used to consider satch the greatest before i heard dimebag lol.....but he is still one of my fav an definitely an amazing guitarist...

[nikhil_singh87]

I agree on Hawaiiguy on everything he said...

[zeemonkey]

Rancid baboon wrote:

I?ll break it down. Satch?s studio albums are on average 11 tracks. In these songs, Satch is soloing about 85% of the time. Compare this to Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin. Zeppelin studio albums averaged about 9 songs with a solo nearly all of them. In these songs, the average solo was about one minute. That?s only about 15% of the song. Now, when it comes to rock music, numbers don?t mean much. I?m just giving you people something to think about.

This is utter nonsense.

the authors an idiot who tried to put his fave players on a pedestal by making fun of their teachers. Fag

[AbombO.S.]

Personally i love satch, but this article is incredibly flawed...

Satch never taught at Berklee school of music, so therefore could not have taught Vai AT BERKLEE, Satch gave private lessons to Vai during Vai's teen years.

[dark templar]

MUSIC IS NOT ABOUT THE TECHNICAL STUFF, EVEN SATRIANI WILL AGREE. THE TECHNICAL HELPS THE MUSICIAN TO EXPRESS THE TUNE IN HIS HEAD. THERE COULD BE A GUY OUT THERE THAT "HAS" A GREAT TUNE IN HIS HEAD BUT HE CANNOT SHARE IT BECAUSE HE CANNOT PLAY IT WELL. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT GUY IS BAD OR NOT GOOD. ALL HE NEEDS TO DO IS PRACTICE MORE AND LEARN MORE THEN FUNNEL ALL THEM DOWN TO HONE HIS SIGNATURE SKILL AND SOUND THEN THAT WILL BE A BLAST.

[dark templar]

I'M SO SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE SOOOO FUCKING ADDICTED TO THE TECHNICAL SHIT. THERE CAN BE A SONG WOTH JUST 3 FUCKING NOTES AND JUST A SINGLE WORD FOR VOCALS THEN MAYBE JUST A REPEATING DRUM LOOP AND FUCK YEAH THAT COULD BE A GREAT TUNE, NOT FOR ALL BUT IF IT'S AN EXPRESSION OF THE MUSICIAN'S PASSION FOR MUSIC THEN BY ALL FUCKING MEANS THAT'S GREAT!

[dark templar]

ALL WE CAN HAVE IS OUR OPINION FOR THE THE OTHER THINGS ASIDE OURSELVES. BUT PHUCK! THAT DOES NOT GIVE ANYONE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG OR WHAT'S GOOD OR BAD. MUSIC IS AN EXPRESSION, NOTHING ELSE!