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Musicians Bible

author: renagademusic@y date: 03/20/2009 category: artists' discussions
rating: 9 / votes: 29 
POSTED: 03/20/2009 - 10:01 am
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Darkkon :
nice
POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 08:32 am / quote |
Xeus :
i like it!
POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 10:05 am / quote |
heavyairship :
youre full of truthiness
POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 10:27 am / quote |
ArmsOfSorrow :
colbert report rofl waffle
thats ****ing scrumtrelescent!
good advice man

POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 10:57 am / quote |
Hale_91 :
reads awesomely man.

great advice!

fyi, typo at the 6th to last word.

POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 11:03 am / quote |
CrossBack7 :
It was annoying to read. You need to use complete sentences and proofread it. Your "words of wisdom" are hard to understand at some points.
POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 02:04 pm / quote |
Zilcho :
It's always nice when someone on the "inside" shares this kind of info. Thanks!
POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 02:53 pm / quote |
Lrn2play :
broken fusion! wrote:

CrossBack7 wrote:

It was annoying to read. You need to use complete sentences and proofread it. Your "words of wisdom" are hard to understand at some points.

get over it, and yourself while you're at it


no he was right. Hes not putting down the points, just saying the grammer may/does throw people off.

POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 04:23 pm / quote |
 
 m 
  :
checked
POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 07:34 pm / quote |
AA00P :
Great info, though a bit more proofreading would have been nice.


POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 08:30 pm / quote |
tona_107 :
Hale_91 wrote:

reads awesomely man.

great advice!

fyi, typo at the 6th to last word.


good for you.

there's a typo in the first sentence, and at least 5 more throughout. stop showing off.

POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 09:39 pm / quote |
mike.d13 :
good lord people, enough with the typo shit. if it looks enough like a normal, correctly spelled word then fine! quit bitching about 2 or 3 words. its just stupid.
POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 11:44 pm / quote |
MealsOnWheels7 :
No, it's justified. If you take the time to write a whole article, then surely you can take the time to proofread it.
POSTED: 03/22/2009 - 11:53 am / quote |
GSD N3 :
Anyone ever hear of common sense? This is basically what this is. Don't get me wrong, it's a good article, and some people do need to be taught common sense, but I gave it a ten anyways!
POSTED: 03/22/2009 - 12:11 pm / quote |
guilty :
I really like this article, Great advice and nice header: Musician Bible..
POSTED: 03/22/2009 - 03:10 pm / quote |
Paul Tauterouff :
Nice advice! In my local area the bands don't support each other like they used to and consequently the local scene is crap.
POSTED: 03/22/2009 - 05:37 pm / quote |
paddy182 :
man that is not how shit runs in glasgow

in one venue, we turned up early to load our gear in, they didnt let us in until 10 mins before we started.

the cd thing is good tho. also, why do bands put their tunes on itunes n shit like that. it might make them look cool and proffesional but no1 is goin to buy them, id rather give my music away for free at this level so people will actually listen to it

POSTED: 03/22/2009 - 05:43 pm / quote |
screechuzi :
this should be called the promoter's bible.
POSTED: 03/22/2009 - 07:04 pm / quote |
masterofkittens :
good

job

POSTED: 03/22/2009 - 07:31 pm / quote |
Draconey :
DrBlow wrote:

Meh, this is more like 'The promoters wishlist bible ... for musicians'. The promoter should promote ... the musicians write & play. It is the job of the musician to get stoned, show up late, be rude & obnoxious to the promoter/crowd/staff ... and put on a ****ing rock show that makes people's hair stand on end. Do you think that Johnny Rotten was 'on time' for every Sex Pistol's gig?

Fuck this bullshit kids, ignore eveything he says and put on a ****ing rock show ... if there is only 1 person in the club then find a better promoter or venue.


But is that the point? You are talking about shock rock if not just loud music, if you want a real concert you want to be everything this guy is saying.

Music isn't about how hard you can get stoned or even how hard you can play. It is about what you put into the music, if your putting in drugs or agression, then it is fine with me. But fans don't come just because you do drugs, it is because they like the music, weither they understand or not.

POSTED: 03/22/2009 - 08:01 pm / quote |
jamsea :
As someone who was in a band and now starting to promote shows, all of this is true. EVERYONE talks in the music scene, don't be a bitch. As long as your friendly and you BRING PEOPLE, it doesn't matter how crappy you are, you will get shows!
POSTED: 03/22/2009 - 11:45 pm / quote |
snot_foster25 :
DrBlow wrote:

Meh, this is more like 'The promoters wishlist bible ... for musicians'. The promoter should promote ... the musicians write & play. It is the job of the musician to get stoned, show up late, be rude & obnoxious to the promoter/crowd/staff ... and put on a ****ing rock show that makes people's hair stand on end. Do you think that Johnny Rotten was 'on time' for every Sex Pistol's gig?

Fuck this bullshit kids, ignore eveything he says and put on a ****ing rock show ... if there is only 1 person in the club then find a better promoter or venue.


Said like someone who doesn't gig regularly, or with any kind of professionalism. If you respect the people giving you the gigs, and often, paying you, they will respect you in return and be more inclined to help you out with more gigs in the future.

If you treat them as though they're just there to serve you, you'll get nothing except a bad reputation.

If you act professionally and treat the promoters and those you deal with with respect and politeness, you'll go further than if you act like something you're not.

POSTED: 03/23/2009 - 02:06 am / quote |
Danyg :
The many typos makes it a little unproffesional, but very good reading
POSTED: 03/23/2009 - 05:13 am / quote |
 
 m 
  :
checked again
POSTED: 03/23/2009 - 07:54 am / quote |
Antoine-Øleg :
This is nothing more than nice . Thanks.
POSTED: 03/23/2009 - 03:32 pm / quote |
GisleAune :
Nice.
POSTED: 03/23/2009 - 04:26 pm / quote |
Skuzzmo :
Good article...

Point 10 is so the phucking truth.

Wise words.


POSTED: 03/23/2009 - 07:50 pm / quote |
emery01 :
now if only all the bands in perth read this, than people like me wouldn't have to put up with bands pulling out and being sh*ts.
POSTED: 03/23/2009 - 10:24 pm / quote |
DrBlow :
snot_foster25 wrote:

DrBlow wrote:

Meh, this is more like 'The promoters wishlist bible ... for musicians'. The promoter should promote ... the musicians write & play. It is the job of the musician to get stoned, show up late, be rude & obnoxious to the promoter/crowd/staff ... and put on a ****ing rock show that makes people's hair stand on end. Do you think that Johnny Rotten was 'on time' for every Sex Pistol's gig?

Fuck this bullshit kids, ignore eveything he says and put on a ****ing rock show ... if there is only 1 person in the club then find a better promoter or venue.

Said like someone who doesn't gig regularly, or with any kind of professionalism. If you respect the people giving you the gigs, and often, paying you, they will respect you in return and be more inclined to help you out with more gigs in the future.

If you treat them as though they're just there to serve you, you'll get nothing except a bad reputation.

If you act professionally and treat the promoters and those you deal with with respect and politeness, you'll go further than if you act like something you're not.


LOL! I gig regularly, thanks. And as for professionalism ... this is not accountancy we are talking about, it's music. Is part of the thrill and attraction of music the fact that it is wild, untamed, and usually perpetrated by those in life who have a deep suspicion of, and lack of respect for "professionalism"? If, as a young upcoming band, you go around your local area being really "resp[ectful" to promoters then you are doing their job for them. Do the job of the musician, and write some amazing songs that blow people's minds. If you're music & playing is good then people will offer you gigs because you draw a crowd of people into venues. I'm sick to death of promoters trying to get bands to do their work for them.
"Professionalism" ... "respect for promoters" ... I don't think anyone who has musically inspired me has had either of these things as qualities. I tend to go for musicianship and a rock 'n roll attitude.

The situation should be turned on it's head. Promoters who really care about music should be out trying to get the good bands, encouraging them and PROMOTING them. Not worrying about getting "respect" from musicians.

POSTED: 03/24/2009 - 11:00 am / quote |
isaacm2012 :
awesome man
POSTED: 11/01/2009 - 05:33 pm / quote |
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