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If you have a guitar with Floyd Rose Locking Tremelo you could be encountering some strange side effects. This article will help you fix those problems. If you don't have locking tremelo on any of your guitars and want to know what it's like, this will also help.
Now, a lot of people ask what it does. It locks your string so that almost no matter what they stay in the tuning you put them in. This works by a clamp at the top of the neck (near the headstock) that locks the strings. When it is "locked" nothing will change the tuning of the guitar. It "locks" it so that if you accidently bump the tuners, nothing happend to the part that you play. But be careful, the string inbetween the tuners and the lock does change, and can break easily. The "lock" also reduces the pull effect of the bar. When you use a bar, it slowly pulls the strings out of tune, by forcing the tuners to move, but with the lock that doesn't happen.
Now you might be asking "Isn't that a pain in the ass to adjust you're tuning?" or "what if you like to play different songs that require different tunings?" Now the whole point of the Tremelo is, you don't have to adjust you're tuning. Once you tune it to you're exact tuning, then lock it, there's no more tuning needed! It keeps it in that exact tuning! If you take it outside oftenly or you're room climate is whack, there are knobs at the bridge that fine-tune the strings, encase you go a half step out of tune. If you play different songs with different tunings, you're pretty much out of luck, you'll have to keep locking and unlocking it.
If you're thinking of buying a guitar with locking tremelo or are jsut sick of it, don't worry about it, you can just take the lock of off it and it turns into a regular nut (for the most part). The only problem with that is that you'll still have to string it like a floyd rose.
Stringing It
01. Unlock the three clamps at the nut with the 3mm allen wrench provided with the guitar or bridge. 02. Set the fine-tuners on the bridge to the middle of there tuning range. 03. Change one string at a time (starting at either E string) by first loosening the string and unclamping it at the saddle with the 3mm allen wrench. 04. Cut the ball end off the replacement string with a pair of wire cutters. 05. Place the freshly cut string end into the center of the saddle and tighten the clamping screw until it is difficult to turn. 06. Thread the other end of the string under its nut clamp and under the string hold down bar, then to the tuning key and tune the string. [Pull on the string until it is tight around the tuning key and retune.] 07. Repeat 2 through 5 until all strings are replaced. 08. Check your tuning on all strings once again. 09. Re-clamp the three nut clamps. 10. Check your tuning once again making any adjustments this time with your fine-tuners only.
To Re-tune Your Guitar
01. Loosen the three string clamps at the nut 02. Set your fine tuner screws on the bridge to the middle of their adjustment range. 03. Tune the strings to your desired pitch (this can be drop tuning, open tuning, or standard pitch, the procedure is the same for any tuning) with an electronic tuner starting with the low ‘E’.
If you're reading this because you need advice on fixing a problem, here might be some. If you hear a twang noise when you pluck an open string, this is because you're tremelo has forced the strings down and the strings are rubbing with a fret (the metal part). This can be adjust by taking the entire lock off of the neck, by the back, with an alen wrench. Then placing very small washers between the neck and tremelo. This will raise it off of the neck. If there is still more problems, raise the bridge. This is done with an larger alen wrench. Use the 2 wholes nearest the pickups to raise the bridge. If you raise it too musch it will become difficult to push the strings down at the higher frets, so don't raise it too much. If prblems still exist, see a professional. If only one string makes the twang noise, take the string off, release the small screw inderneath the string and push the part where you put the string in up. This will raise the individual string, without effecting the others. If the strings are too high, do the opposite. That is the only problem I have encountered with my guitar, but if you have other problems you should take it in to a professional, although one could be hard to find.
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eddiefan001002
: i have read all of this i am planning to get a floyd though keep in mind i am a total van haken so says the username so sould i get one or notPOSTED: 06/21/2005 - 07:22 pm / quote |
be-back
: okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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Tom Martin
: These things are the most evil things ever. I hate floyd rose with a vengance! Shooo!POSTED: 04/05/2004 - 02:35 pm / quote |
drone
: Floyd rose locking tremelo, what a waste of space in our guitar-loving universe. I have a Jackson preformer and always have it unlocked, everyone needs to use different tunings no matter who they are. Its only benefit, ois if your in a band and you have your own style of tuning which is the same for the majority of your songs then it is useful. But hey, i got a Gibson SG400 last week, so its pretty redundant, ROCK ON AMIGOS!POSTED: 04/05/2004 - 03:22 pm / quote |
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: drone:
Floyd rose locking tremelo, what a waste of space in our guitar-loving universe. I have a Jackson preformer and always have it unlocked, everyone needs to use different tunings no matter who they are. Its only benefit, ois if your in a band and you have your own style of tuning which is the same for the majority of your songs then it is useful. But hey, i got a Gibson SG400 last week, so its pretty redundant, ROCK ON AMIGOS! |
No, you use a backup for different tunings you asstard. Good article, Floyd Roses are cool.POSTED: 04/05/2004 - 05:54 pm / quote |
Emenius Sleepus
: lol yeah floyd roses are great - if you use them frequently. I'd like to add something to this article though - just personal experience stuff: I have an Ibanez RG320, and when I put the new strings on it, I insert them from the headstock, and take them through to the bridge, and cut off the excess end of string there. This way, you get to keep the balls of the strings and cut off the plain end. There are several advantages to this: first, when you are winding up the string to its tuning, the ball keeps the string from slipping from the tuning head. And it also looks way cooler. Then, I usually start from the low E-string, and tune it slightly higher than what I want (due to Floyd Rose property of knocking a string on the bottom out of tune when you are setting up a top string, for example), and do it (although to a lesser degree with each one) to all the wound strings. This way, when I finish putting all of the strings on the guitar, it's in tune almost perfectly, and the adjustments are minor.
My other note is, some Floyd Roses (or very similar models anyway) have a tunnel under the unit for the string, so you put it in just like in any other guitar. If you have one of those it will save you couple of problems, and enable you to put d-tuners on it too, so you can adjust the tuning to say drop d or something "at the flick of a switch"... or de-tuner. Peace.POSTED: 04/05/2004 - 09:10 pm / quote |
ad_lib_oz
: This guy needs to know the difference between "there", "their" and "they're"...POSTED: 04/05/2004 - 10:16 pm / quote |
hololos
: Floyd Rose's are really good. Problem is they can be a pain in the ass, when u tune and replace strings. But, it's usually a great benefit to have it.POSTED: 04/05/2004 - 11:08 pm / quote |
phil_axe-man
: | I have an Ibanez RG320, and when I put the new strings on it, I insert them from the headstock, and take them through to the bridge, and cut off the excess end of string there. This way, you get to keep the balls of the strings and cut off the plain end. There are several advantages to this: first, when you are winding up the string to its tuning, the ball keeps the string from slipping from the tuning head. And it also looks way cooler. |
someone teach this guy to string a guitarPOSTED: 04/06/2004 - 06:07 am / quote |
SBR
: It doesnt take very long to unlock. I don't know why everyone says it's such a bastard to switch tunings though I must say its big flaw is the temptation to mess about with all the parts and end up breaking it. oops.POSTED: 04/06/2004 - 07:22 am / quote |
Tom Martin
: I still stand by what I said. These things are evil.POSTED: 04/06/2004 - 11:21 am / quote |
stunt
: they're good only if you like a certain tuning and only us that tuning most often. I use a half step down tuning, but sometimes i wish i could play lower or higher. I just wish they would make the fine tune adjusters a little less fine tune so you can go from 1 step down to standard without messing with the lock near the headstock. And yeah it is a pain in the ass. So just make sure you use the tuning that you play in most often. Or your going to hate it
As far as taking off the lock near the headstock, ill have to try that.POSTED: 04/06/2004 - 12:31 pm / quote |
metallicker
: i have an ibanez with a floyd rose and its ace,i can make some crazy sounds out of my guitar and all you suckers have to buy pedals,mwhahahahaPOSTED: 04/06/2004 - 01:52 pm / quote |
Towllie
: FLOYD ROSE BRIDGES ARE A PAIN IN THE ASS.POSTED: 04/06/2004 - 09:18 pm / quote |
ZepHedJack
: once I get my V fixed up, I'm going to abuse the hell out of that Floyd \m/POSTED: 04/06/2004 - 10:29 pm / quote |
BibaLin
: Having a floyd rose isnt that hard stupid. It only screws up the nut and bends the head a little bit. Thats only in the long term mabey, like 10 years. just take off the frikken locks u moron. And eliminating the saddles is good. I like the fine tuners. U can replace your strings faster. And why do u have top change your tuning so often? Most of the songs these days play on drop D or standard. SO i adjust the fine tuner on the 6th string so i can change it to e or d any time i want. I love the floyd rose. Like metalliker, i saved about 200$ not buying the pedals. You can make like any frikken sound outta it. OUtta the 800$ i've payed for my Ibanez RG 320 Deluxe which is about the second best RG out there.POSTED: 04/07/2004 - 04:41 pm / quote |
BibaLin
: not saddles, ball ends i mean.POSTED: 04/07/2004 - 04:43 pm / quote |
BibaLin
: nuh uh, the easiest way is, simple. Cut the frikken balls off lock it in the bridge, then string em through the locks, lock the locks, then through the tuning machine. that keeps the strings from slipping when changing strings. then unlock the locks, tune it, then lock it, then fine tune it. its not that hard. why are people so stupid these days. I carry my 3mm wrench and my 9mm pistol everywhere i go since i gotted it.POSTED: 04/07/2004 - 04:49 pm / quote |
Jericho_13
: ASSTARD! AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH! AAAAAAAHAHAHAH! Floyd Rose rules. I got one with my ESP LTD F-250. its amazing. my guitar is amazing. i am amazing. i am leaving.POSTED: 04/07/2004 - 05:45 pm / quote |
awk40
: i love floyd rose. there the best especialy when you play alot of van halen and when you use the wammy bar a lot so *** youPOSTED: 04/07/2004 - 10:58 pm / quote |
chAos55
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I have an Ibanez RG320, and when I put the new strings on it, I insert them from the headstock, and take them through to the bridge, and cut off the excess end of string there. This way, you get to keep the balls of the strings and cut off the plain end. There are several advantages to this: first, when you are winding up the string to its tuning, the ball keeps the string from slipping from the tuning head. And it also looks way cooler.
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I dunno...would that work?POSTED: 04/08/2004 - 06:13 am / quote |
BibaLin
: Floyd Rose is the BESTEST EVER!!!!!POSTED: 04/08/2004 - 08:15 pm / quote |
psychoism
: i use an ibanez EDR470ex which has floyd rose, and i think its great, but tuning it is a major pain in the ass. once when i was tuning it, the bridge kept floating up and up and up, and i still can get the tuning right! it was kinda scary and wierd, so i took it back to the dealer and they fixed it, don't know how thoughPOSTED: 05/07/2004 - 11:13 am / quote |
alex_shred04
: man u people dont think outside the box. heres a couple of ideas for u.
1. remove the lock at the nut and if ur so bothered about tuning put some inexpensive sperzel locking tuners on there, which allow for easier alternate tunings and stability.
2 do something even smarter and forget a floyd rose, and get a string thru guitar which has tons more sustain. and how many of u honestly divebomb all the time
3 look at the new ZR bridge on the ibanez s series. if u bust one of ur 1st 3 strings ittl stay in tune enuf for u to finish what ur doin. plus on the prestige ones theres a D-tuner.
and as everythin in usa is so ferkin cheap this should not be a problem, get some ***en part time jobs!POSTED: 05/23/2004 - 07:52 am / quote |
hardcorejunkie
: to all the guys who hate floyds, just dont buy one!!! simple as that. you guys are missing out on a whole new world. eddie van halen, joe satriani, steve vai, dimebag, randy rhoads, and countless other guitar gurus all use floyds to get some of those great sounds that you never hear on a stevie ray vaughan or jimi hendrix album.POSTED: 05/23/2004 - 09:23 am / quote |
Cain 777
: I happen to slam my strings very hard as I jump and twist and just pummel my strings and guitar. The floyd helps me keep from having to retune every song. I tried taking off the locks at the nut and I put them back on after one practice. I went out of tune after one song. I never use the trem. bar I love the nutlocks because I never have to retune in the middle of a performance. If you're breaking strings during your performance you're either using a razor as a pick or are using old and shoddy strings. I play pretty much only in standard and I keep another guitar handy for drop d or alternate tunings like you should. I might add anyone who has a floyd and uses drop d tuning shouldn't have a floyd rose. It really screws with the tension springs that keep the bridge floating.POSTED: 05/30/2004 - 05:29 pm / quote |
peter_2004
: i have a floyd rose tremelo on my wesley m2556. personally i think its great but then again this is my first guitar so ive got used to it. i dont usually tune it any differently either sinse im not experienced enough so its perfect the way it keeps in tune 4 me. maybe one day wen i realise different tunings might sound better then ill become frustrated and smash it through my amp, but until that day comes, i salute the floyd rose!POSTED: 06/04/2004 - 03:23 pm / quote |
chinko
: | I have an Ibanez RG320, and when I put the new strings on it, I insert them from the headstock, and take them through to the bridge, and cut off the excess end of string there. This way, you get to keep the balls of the strings and cut off the plain end. There are several advantages to this: first, when you are winding up the string to its tuning, the ball keeps the string from slipping from the tuning head. And it also looks way cooler. |
hmmm not a bad idea, cept you need a floyd rose bridge to do that.
for anyone that ever uses a whammy bar, use a floyd. then you dont detune your guitar after a lengthy/vicous divebomb. i wish basses had floyd roses, it would be COOOOOOOL!POSTED: 06/06/2004 - 06:30 pm / quote |
CvPrEpKiLLaH
: A bass with a floyd rose... Interesting idea, but the strings are already so low, I don't see any divebombs, and a huge up-pull would be kinda weird and would probably snap the strings...POSTED: 08/05/2004 - 05:52 pm / quote |
60shout
: i'm the first guy to post in 2 monthsPOSTED: 10/05/2004 - 07:41 pm / quote |
David Gimour
: How the hell do you unlock the nut? (this is my first floyd rose guitar so give me a break)POSTED: 12/30/2004 - 03:45 pm / quote |
burnerofsouls
: hi everyone
i have a problem with my jackson kelly's floyd rose(i think everybody have), and i would like to ask if somebody can help me with this.
supose i'm playing and guitar is tuned,but when i use the floyd rose,moving it up or moving it down the guitar isn't tuned anymore.
my floyd rose isn't right balanced, i've heard this is a problem of most of jackson guitars with floydrose,what can i do to fix it?
is there anybody that can help me?
thanks ..seeyaPOSTED: 01/10/2005 - 07:02 am / quote |
rreite2233
: I'm guessing either these people have a cheap knock off FRose or a 'licensed' one because I have a 10 yr old FR that has served me great in 3 different guitars now. I just upgraded my KH2 to a speedload fixed bridge setup ... not sure how much I like this one though. Might see it for sale on eBay soon. Thinking I should have gotten the trem. version instead. These trems are not the easiest to adjust but when they are done PROPERLY they stay in place until you stretch the strings out. There's not a tremolo in place that can stop strings from going though.POSTED: 01/10/2005 - 10:46 pm / quote |
BigDrew6565
: hey everybody,
Got a simple question, I just restringed my Jackson and the tremelo floated up real high and now the action on the bottom frets is much higher than usual what causes this and how can i fix it?POSTED: 01/17/2005 - 06:06 pm / quote |
Sabrecat
: BigDrew..you need to adjust the springs in the back of the guitar, they will pull the bridge back down into place. But keep checking your string tention while you do this, while pulling the bridge down you pull the strings too. Keep them generally in tune as you go 1.so you know where you are as you go, and 2.so you don't break all your strings off..could be very dangerous to your face!!!POSTED: 02/02/2005 - 10:14 pm / quote |
Tobe
: I bought a jackson which came with a floyd rose bridge and i just changed the strings for the first time and ive noticed that the strings are alittle closer to the pickups then they were before so i was wondering if theres anyway i can fix that?POSTED: 02/16/2005 - 08:37 pm / quote |
lamb_of_god129
: my FR is doing something that no one can explain, when i change the strings the bridge pulls up from the body and i have no idea how to make it go down like at all so if you ciould help that would be awsomePOSTED: 04/15/2005 - 11:28 pm / quote |
Zavien_bg_gt
: My FR is having the same problem.. i know what i did wrong though, i replaced the strings, not one at a time, but I took the factory strings off and then put new ones on, all at the same time..>.< it was rather dumb of me I am sure, but it is the first FR i have ever dealt with. Besides, my beast wasnt even supposed to have a FR that i remember, lol, and I got it for 400 bucks cheaper then from BC Rich themselves.. i will have to bring it to the shop to get it right, so i can start jammin some more.POSTED: 05/07/2005 - 01:33 am / quote |
NecroSocial
: All you guys worried about going out of tune should just get the Trans Performance self-tuning bridge: http://www.transperformance.com/index2.htm You'll never go out of tune... ever. Plus you can retune by touching a button. Oh and also... Floyd Rose bridges are crap.POSTED: 05/10/2005 - 03:30 pm / quote |
metalmse
: I've owned a Kramer Nightswan for about 11-12 years, & an Ibanez RG320 for about 3 years. Both have a Floyd Rose. After paying some idiots way too much money to work on my guitars, I decided I would learn to do it myself. After all I have a degree in auto/ diesel technology, I could learn to do it. With a couple of books & places like this, I've done all my repairs. Floyd's are really simple, if the bridge pulls up when restringing, the springs are what you look at. If you go to a heavier string, You need more spring tension. My RG had 3 springs with the stock strings. I use a .052 6 string, so I added a 4th spring & more tension.POSTED: 06/19/2005 - 07:41 am / quote |
Darkside27
: FLOYD ROSE RULES. Eddie Van Halen allways used a floyd rose.POSTED: 06/27/2005 - 01:26 am / quote |
jimmyG7
: ok i have a problem. i have an ibanez rg350 with a floyd rose. i just restrung it yesterday, one string at a time. however, when i go to tune it, the bridge keeps coming up (as if i were pushing the wammy bar down) because i am tightening the strings. what can i do to fix thisPOSTED: 07/04/2005 - 01:07 pm / quote |
Spity90
: i love floyd rose whammys.. i even have one on my les paul,all u need is a little patience to learn and bam ur done!!!POSTED: 07/12/2005 - 02:07 pm / quote |
guitar21@WE
: may be a mpain in the ass
but they are sick none the lessPOSTED: 07/18/2005 - 11:43 pm / quote |
Wikad Guitarist
: I hate my f-ing guitar, i want to burn it so bad when i break a string, i hate it, i hate it, i hate it, i hate it!! but i love my gutiar but i hate the bridge, is there anyway to put a different bridge on a guitar and it not look like crap?? e-mail me with some answers please. I have a Jackson DKMG Dinkey with the flyode rose bridge. my e-mail is, liljones08@hotmail.com , thanks if anybodys got the timePOSTED: 10/28/2005 - 08:39 pm / quote |
shred4ever1
: i love floyd roses but i have a late eghties kramer and i know how to adjust a floyed rose very good but for some stupid reason my locking nut will not tighten enouph for my 3rd string to stay in tune it slips thru the nut tightend as much as posibble are somthing all other strings are fine it angers me i have a1980 usa charvel and its got a different locking not then like the rg series ibanez or my kramer it has an actual nut like a normal guitar and has the lock mouted behind it like were a retainer bar would be on an ibanez it works great i never have any trouble with it i abuse it insanely doing dime style harmonic dives and uniuqe slayer s*** its great but dont have mutch luck with the locking nuts that are also the nuts like an rg series if you have any ideas please tell me i need to know because i love floyd roses and the things it enables you to do even if they are a pain for an experienced user and a guitar player with certain styles and needs its manditory peace out to all you f***ers who cant play guitar good enough to relize there quality
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EMO_MUST_BURN!!
: it has a fuked up thing tha if u push it bak to make the strings go high....it tries to go bak to normal position...but then it get stuk like mm away from normal position...so i push it forward a bit the it goes bak to normal...it was on my dean 79 ml f...the chrome ones are much cheaper than the black tho....POSTED: 01/24/2006 - 01:03 pm / quote |
Chromeproguitar
: i have an ibenz rg 200b and the floyd rose is great for any1 that dosnt like it....
out of tune in like a month mayb cuz o locking nutsPOSTED: 01/24/2006 - 07:51 pm / quote |
Soulcleaver
: i bought like 2 days ago this old JS1000 model, completely white with black-ish hardware, it's SO COOL! but then, a string broke. i knew that replacing strings on a floyd is hard for someone who's never done it before, i can tell ya, had some trouble with it, yeah! totday another string broke, and the guitar was tuned good, but then i started thinking and you know, it's all very logical, i accidentally did what they tell ya in this column, so it's not that hard, i've got this guitar like 2 days, bravo... now I've got another question, under the nutlocks you've got this metal plates, apparently, and on one side one of this plate a sticking a bit out, could this be a problem? I don't know a ****ing thing of floyds, so please help me...
thxPOSTED: 03/03/2006 - 02:49 pm / quote |
Inliner
: hmm cud b the springs at the back or the leveling of the bridgPOSTED: 05/02/2006 - 05:06 am / quote |
magicfwomp
: I have A fender floyd rose style tremelo and its awsome! but its a bugger restringingPOSTED: 06/17/2006 - 12:11 pm / quote |
mumblemonster
: What would happen if I just slap a floyd rose onto an ordianry gtar? would i have to cut a bigger holePOSTED: 07/08/2006 - 12:39 pm / quote |
Mistress_Ibanez
: The tension gets on my nerves, if i try and tune to D it takes ages because the tension drops and so the bridge sinks and the strings get tighter again and go back to standard tuning, so i have to make them lower so the bridge sinks further and the strings get tighter again.... grrrrr.....POSTED: 07/12/2006 - 08:36 am / quote |
evil-m
: if i was to take off all the stings and the bridge goes in to the body what can i do?
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mumblemonster
: In reply to evil m..... Yeah you need to drill two holes into the body, so that the screws that control the intonation will line up with where the screws from when it was a hardtail. (youre doing a hardtail to floydrose conversion right?)POSTED: 07/24/2006 - 01:41 pm / quote |
ChicagoMetal
: floyd rose is amazing.
just takes a little more time than standard, but once you get the hang of it, its a breeze.POSTED: 07/28/2006 - 05:24 pm / quote |
mumblemonster
: In fact there are two types of floyd rose tremelo..... one that is within the body and one that is sitting on the top like a fender hardtail. (non floyd rose)POSTED: 08/12/2006 - 09:17 am / quote |
g1asseye
: psychoism wrote:
i use an ibanez EDR470ex which has floyd rose, and i think its great, but tuning it is a major pain in the ass. once when i was tuning it, the bridge kept floating up and up and up, and i still can get the tuning right! it was kinda scary and wierd, so i took it back to the dealer and they fixed it, don't know how though |
All he did was tighten some screws inside. if you take the backplate thing off then there is two screws with big heads that hold a small bracket for the springs. tighten or loosen them until your bridge is parallel with your body then tune up. if anyone says anything like "tune your strings sharp" or tells you to tune them in some looney order its bullcrap. if you are not confident in doing this yourself see your local dealer/repairman. this is a five minute job it is not hard.POSTED: 10/29/2006 - 07:33 am / quote |
neon41
: my guitars
ibanez RG 7420 - LoTrs trem - shithouse
ibanez Gsa 370 - edge - awesome trem
Jackson Rx10d - licensed floyd rose not sure what type but its holding up to the abuse
so to all those out there who whinge about floyds, learn to maintain them properly or get a guitar tech to do it, its not hardPOSTED: 10/29/2006 - 10:33 pm / quote |
Zepplin
: I bought a BC Righ Platinum Pro Jr. V. This guitar has a Floyd Rose and I love it! So what if it takes a half-hour to change the strings. I just sit down, watch the Simpsons, and change the strings. I always use .010 guage strings, so I rarely have to change the spring tension.POSTED: 12/06/2006 - 06:25 pm / quote |
eddiefan001002
: jimmyG7 :
ok i have a problem. i have an ibanez rg350 with a floyd rose. i just restrung it yesterday, one string at a time. however, when i go to tune it, the bridge keeps coming up (as if i were pushing the wammy bar down) because i am tightening the strings. what can i do to fix this
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Um personally i would change the gauge of the strings lowerPOSTED: 01/14/2007 - 11:51 pm / quote |
fiestared
: anyone know how to tighten the slot the whammy bbar goes into...mine wobbles....its PISSING ME OFF BITCH!!POSTED: 02/27/2007 - 01:14 pm / quote |
fiestared
: 0n my floyd (well...its a copy...but it iz basically the same) I just restring and keep the ball on the string...it doesnt do anything....u dont need to cut it off.....POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 12:31 pm / quote |
JadeFalcon5
: Ive got an s470dxqm
it has a ZR Trem
its like a floyd but not entirely floating so changing strings and tunings is a breezePOSTED: 03/01/2007 - 05:00 pm / quote |
kingsneverdie
: I've just bought a KE2 Kelly with the Floyd Rose Original locking trem. It's going to stay permanently in standard tuning, as I have a Gibson Les Paul Custom to tune to anything else!!POSTED: 03/06/2007 - 08:28 am / quote |
fiestared
: my floyd doesnt go back to the right position when i use it...it stays a bit flat so i ahve to pull it up to get it back to normal tuning...its bothering me like hellPOSTED: 03/17/2007 - 07:08 pm / quote |
ancient_bass
: Maybe your springs are bad? try new ones and if you want resistance, put another one in
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ancient_bass
: i have a floyd rose on my new guitar, an ibanez knockoff, and i like how it works, i couldnt use the tremelo on my old one... I like doing that motley crue car accelerating intro!POSTED: 03/26/2007 - 11:28 am / quote |
ancient_bass
: anyone know how to palm mute on a floyd?
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Archaon
: | OUtta the 800$ i've payed for my Ibanez RG 320 Deluxe which is about the second best RG out there. |
LOL. You're very, very stupid. It is not the second best RG out there. And how exactly have you saved so much money on with a floyd from not buying pedals? You do realize that there are pedals out there that do things besides alter the pitch, right?POSTED: 04/14/2007 - 09:23 am / quote |
the fendernator
: i took all my strings off by accident and can't reattach new strings because when i try to tune them they pull the bridge up. help?POSTED: 04/22/2007 - 02:45 pm / quote |
fiestared
:
Maybe your springs are bad? try new ones and if you want resistance, put another one in
yeah..i opened up the back...the springs were stretched right out....POSTED: 04/22/2007 - 04:59 pm / quote |
HellRaiser620
: Everyone who keeps talking about how it's aggravating to tune their floyd rose-equipped guitars down to Drop D, Drop C, etc. should really do a bit of research into certain accessories for floyd rose tremolos before ranting about how much they suck. D-tuners have been mentioned here before, but one specifically designed for the floyd rose is the EVH D-Tuna. Eddie Van Halen designed it himself, and the only requirement is that you either have your tremolo blocked with a shiv so that it can't go up, only down, or that you have a tremolo stabilizer such as the Fender Hipshot Tremsetter installed (the much easier option, in my opinion). Also, the Tremsetter helps the floyd rose tremolo system maintain the balance between the string tension and the spring tension, thus keeping the floating tremolo from leaning forward or backward. Personally, I own a Schecter Hellraiser C-1 FR with a Tremsetter and an EVH D-tuna installed, and it works wonderfully. Just throwing another option out there for everyone.POSTED: 04/26/2007 - 01:40 am / quote |
HellRaiser620
: Just a slight correction in regards to my last post. Blocking a floyd rose floating tremolo with a shiv keeps the bridge from going down (when you pull up on the whammy bar). Sorry if that was a bit unclear. Also, the EVH D-Tuna may not work perfectly on a licensed floyd rose, because those aren't the real thing. POSTED: 04/26/2007 - 01:45 am / quote |
dragon_force07
: Is there anyone here that can help me with mine, I just bought a Rhoads off of a friend. for some reason, I cant get the floyed rose risen up more to keep it locked to where I can use the whammy bar and everything. I need some feedback...PLEASE!POSTED: 05/08/2007 - 10:59 pm / quote |
Rabid Gerry
: I have an altogether different problem with my floyd, my problem is that the bitch stays at pitch for about 5 seconds! It stabablizes around a semitone flat. This really really bothers me and I dunno what to try to solve the problem. At the minute the guitar's bridge is slightly high at the back tipping up so I intend to tighten the strings at the back to solve this. Would this may be the cause of the going slightly flat? I thought of may be trying a string locking wrap at the machine head.
I'm pretty well up on the understanding of this bridge, but getting to do what I want is something else. I find the strings a little high also but I don't seem to be able to lower the bridge anymore at the height adjucment posts at the each side. I've lowered it as far is it'll go before trying to take the bridge into the body.
The guitar this bridge is on is a Fender Strat, I bought it brand new with the bridge on as my own choice rather than the standard as I wanted o start learning wammy techniques proper. Anyone can help me then I'd appreciate it!!!POSTED: 05/12/2007 - 08:28 am / quote |
fiestared
: hey...can you install a floyd rose into a standard strat body through the bridge routing...please help me with this one...building an EVH frankiePOSTED: 05/14/2007 - 03:13 pm / quote |
fiestared
: about my last comment.....how big would i have to drill holes for the height adjustment rod things to fit??POSTED: 05/14/2007 - 04:50 pm / quote |
Cookingnotes
: How can I lock my floyd rose so it never moves again ?POSTED: 05/14/2007 - 07:13 pm / quote |
fiestared
: you cant...i think....but you can stop it pulling up by shoving a bit of wood underneath it...then you just dont use it and its finePOSTED: 05/15/2007 - 02:24 pm / quote |
fiestared
: Im weird..i use 0.10 for my high E string and 0.10 again for my B string.....just though I'd mention thatPOSTED: 05/16/2007 - 06:23 pm / quote |
rik23
: Most peole who hate floyd rose are either lazy or have no idea how it all works. Read.....POSTED: 07/04/2007 - 04:40 pm / quote |
Th6r6a6sH
: Smart me went from a light gauge set of i-dont-knows to a set of Zakk Wylde signatures and the tension is so huge the bridge goes up.. and stays there. wtf?how do i balance the bridge for a heavier guage? help me out plz!POSTED: 08/17/2007 - 01:39 pm / quote |
killtrend
: Th6r6a6sH wrote:
Smart me went from a light gauge set of i-dont-knows to a set of Zakk Wylde signatures and the tension is so huge the bridge goes up.. and stays there. wtf?how do i balance the bridge for a heavier guage? help me out plz! |
this is because Zack uses a 10-60 gauge (I think) and you were using like 9-42's which means that the balance is changed because the floating trem is balanced between the springs and strings all you have to do is take of the plate on the back of your guitar (the biggest plate in the center) and tighten the little screws holding the spring claw but since you are using a lot heavier strings (you may need more springs you can pick them up at a guitar store.) then tune up to pitch (these strings are meant for drop C tuning only if tuned to standard they can wreck your guitar because of all the pressure) and your trem should be level with your guitar (body not in height) fine tune the springs until it is perfect. POSTED: 12/18/2007 - 10:41 pm / quote |
sevenchurches
: | as I jump and twist and just pummel my strings and guitar |
maybe you should quit BustedPOSTED: 01/17/2008 - 04:57 am / quote |
sevenchurches
: I found this really useful also, thanks a tonPOSTED: 01/18/2008 - 06:54 am / quote |
Coolno9
: hey i bought a rg floyed rose frm a guy...but now i observed the tune dropped after using the tremelo..nd there is no tune locker...so is the problem ll b fixed by using a locker only??...or nything else i hv to do??? plz giv me some suggetions...m totally new with it....nd wat bout those 5 pickups??POSTED: 01/28/2008 - 12:24 pm / quote |
Coolno9
: i just bought a rg floyd rose frm a guy but nw i pbserved the tune dropped after using the tremelo nd there is no tune locker...so is the prblm ll b fixed by using the locker only?? or i hv to do ny thng else???...plz giv som suggetions...m really nw with it....nd wat bout those 5 pickups??POSTED: 01/28/2008 - 12:51 pm / quote |
Corman15
: Thank you for the tips & info, I just bought a Jackson KE3 with a Licenced Floyd Rose trem... I really like it, except for the fact that tuning down is a pain in the ass. THatk god I have a Les Paul too. : POSTED: 03/23/2008 - 05:01 pm / quote |
metalzrulez
: quick question,
is it alright for the bridge to be slightly off parallel ? like a little up but barely noticeable. everything is else is fine though but the bridge is not perfectly parallel.POSTED: 04/06/2008 - 05:00 pm / quote |
xxxxxxxxx
: i have an ibanez RG350DX and the whammy bar keeps falling out, is there anyway i can tightenit down so that it doesnt do this?POSTED: 05/22/2008 - 05:38 pm / quote |
fuzzmunkey
: and under the string hold down bar, then to the tuning key[\quote][quote]
^^ what the hell does that mean??!!POSTED: 06/01/2008 - 08:03 am / quote |
poopdedoop
: These things are sweet once you get them in tune. However, sometimes it takes hours to get them that way. It pisses the hell outta me. I have a Jackson with one of these and re-stringing/tuning are a bitch. A lot of times I'll re-string it, and all the sudden the intonation is a jacked up. I wanna get a PRS so this problem is eliminated.POSTED: 06/11/2008 - 07:43 pm / quote |
hate248
: i fave a b.c. rich beast and it has a floyed rose,honestly it pisses me the hell offPOSTED: 07/27/2008 - 12:57 pm / quote |
wasted-years
: know im no expert but wouldnt that last part mes with the indintaion (hope i spelled that right) your best bet with these are get them set up for the tunning you want and not chang it alot if you just stay with the same strings and tunning and you can just change the strings your self but inless you want to spend the next lifetime trying to set up a guitar just to change your mind and have to do it your selfPOSTED: 09/03/2008 - 05:05 pm / quote |
mashedpotatoes
: | fine-tune the strings, encase you go a half step out of tune |
encase = spelling error
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mj2007
: can someone help me please, i stupidly took all my strings off an ibanez rg licensed trem as i wanted to oil my board.
now i can't get the trem flush with the body, should the springs be fully stretched or just a little? im using skinny top heavy bottom ernie balls and am on the verge of throwing this piece of shit out of the window!!
can you pm or email please, cheers :o)POSTED: 12/06/2008 - 05:36 pm / quote |
Sonic Blast
: chinko wrote:
I have an Ibanez RG320, and when I put the new strings on it, I insert them from the headstock, and take them through to the bridge, and cut off the excess end of string there. This way, you get to keep the balls of the strings and cut off the plain end. There are several advantages to this: first, when you are winding up the string to its tuning, the ball keeps the string from slipping from the tuning head. And it also looks way cooler.
hmmm not a bad idea, cept you need a floyd rose bridge to do that.
for anyone that ever uses a whammy bar, use a floyd. then you dont detune your guitar after a lengthy/vicous divebomb. i wish basses had floyd roses, it would be COOOOOL! |
CvPrEpKiLLaH wrote:
A bass with a floyd rose... Interesting idea, but the strings are already so low, I don't see any divebombs, and a huge up-pull would be kinda weird and would probably snap the strings... |
have you guys ever heard of Kahler tremolos? they're very similar to Floyd Rose tremolos. They make several bass tremolo and they are really great. Among others, Les Claypool (Primus) and Victor Wooten use them.
Kahlers do the same thing Floyds do, but they're easier for maintainance and use. They're also not floating. POSTED: 12/15/2008 - 07:35 am / quote |
MetalheadMosher
: I'm getting a Jackson Warrior XT guitar brand new and was wondering what I can do to set it up best to semi-tone lower tuning (DGCFAd) because my music is heavily influeced by Death and I would like to basically use all the same techniques Chuck used (R.I.P.). After this initial tuning change I dont think I'll want to change again afterwards. Thanks in advance.POSTED: 03/09/2009 - 07:44 am / quote |
KORG101
: my whammy bar is not as tight as it used to be, what should i doPOSTED: 04/24/2009 - 05:16 am / quote |
Christ Killer
: My problem with my floating bridge is that the 1st and 2nd strings won't stay locked into the bridge! It's a completely stock RG5 so it comes with an Edge III bridge. Can I get some help here?POSTED: 07/26/2009 - 01:24 am / quote |
Christ Killer
: Well I asked a guy at a local shop and what he does is get the excess bends it back and twists it, using two pairs of pliers (one should be a pressure wrench); kind of like the the wound string. This gives the string more width and actual grip. So if you have this problem... well that's one option.
***Thanks to everyone else who gave tips on how to tune; made it a lot easier for me to get my guitar in tune, since I play dropped C.POSTED: 07/27/2009 - 05:47 pm / quote |
beyondexile
: As a quick thing, the guy who wrote this is re-stringing the floyd correctly by keeping the ball ends at the head. This however will only work with strings than are complete all the way, ie no daddario's whom to my knowledge the wound part of the string stops before the internal part. So with ernire balls for example which are wound the entire length it will work. Anyway the reasoning is because when you cut the ball end of the string it compromises the winding, so when clamped it actually makes the bridge end of the string weaker. So if your strings are snapping easily and its down the bridge end, try it out also try to avoid changing all strings at once on floyds, remove one then replace, keeps the tension POSTED: 08/05/2009 - 09:29 am / quote |
ibanez95FTW
: i have an Ibanez Rg350DX it has a trem lock and floyd rose bridge. I have 3 lock in nuts on the trem lock. But even when i use my whammy bar with all the trem lock locked it still gose out of tune. Plz help this is so F**kin pissin me off PLZ HELP MEPOSTED: 08/08/2009 - 07:51 am / quote |
Nettak
: I see a lot of people complaining about the same things here so I thought I'd shed some light on it
If your tremolo bar is a bit loose (meaning you can move it up and down a bit without the bridge actually moving) then you need to open up the back plate and tighten the little screw that holds the bar. It's on the lower right side, from that angle.
If your bridge is pulled in towards the body, or the other way, then you have probably retuned the guitar or changed your string gauge. The way to fix this is to open up the back plate and tighten or loosen the springs in there. Loosen them if your bridge goes inside the body and tighten them if it's the opposite.
Note that it's basically a tug of war between your STRING tension, and your SPRING tension in the back. Adjusting either will lead to a change in pitch, so you have to carefully balance it to get in tune with your bridge still in the right position, and this can take a lot of time if you're inexperienced.
Also, since your bridge is floating, using your tuners to adjust the string pitch will slightly change the pitch of all the strings, because as I mentioned, increasing string tension pulls the bridge towards the neck.
It's hard to balance, but you get used to it with some time.
I hope I helped :3POSTED: 09/15/2009 - 07:17 am / quote |
koolakron
: there are a couple of good videos on you tube check them out. the one where you use picks in the back to block the trem and then loosen the springs works the best because you can tune all the stings with out worrying about the string tension pulling the trem and knocking the other strings out of pitch. once in tune, lock, fine tune, then tighten the springs just enough till the picks fall out then check yer tuning and fine tune by adjusting the springs till you have the right pitch again, this ensures that your spring tension and string tension are the same. be sure that your saddle is parallel to the body of the guitar, and sometimes when tightning the springs the picks might get stuck and not fall out right away so only tighten in small increments and check the picks to see if they are getting loose. also when tuning the guitar you should tune in playing position not lying down. Once you have it set up you should not have adjust the springs again unless you put a different guage of strings on. And if you play in different tunings then get yourself a second guitar with a fixed bridge.POSTED: 12/05/2009 - 02:56 pm / quote |
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