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7 Common Problems With Learning Sweep Picking

author: Mike_Philippov date: 06/23/2007 category: general music
rating: 9.5 / votes: 114 
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 11:58 am
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liam177lewis :
very very nice article. ive had many problems with sweeps, and i think article covers them greatly, very much appreciated.
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 08:25 am / quote |
Smokey Amp :
Great article.

10/10

POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 08:40 am / quote |
SuperRitsu :
ohh wow great advice..
now to practice my sweep picking!

POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 08:45 am / quote |
cataclysm34 :
There's one part in here I have qualms with... All the best sweepers do it simply through economy of motion and lifting their fingers off the fretboard instead of relying on their palm which doesn't make sense in a descending arpeggio. So just food for thought. Other than that the article was alright.
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 09:06 am / quote |
Mike da Man :
great article, thanks man
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 09:06 am / quote |
DemonDante :
Pretty good article, great advice!
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 09:29 am / quote |
graysonsoares :
one of the best articles.. thnx a lot
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 09:41 am / quote |
SurfKID11 :
good article. it is very important to be usical with your sweeping and not just use it randomly. and dont be like people i know and play the sweep at speed when you really cant. remember it is more respectable to play slow with accuracy than like shit fast.
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 10:15 am / quote |
Triviutallica :
cool article now i know where i've been going wrong now. when i play my left hand is more accurate than my picking hand i've been using a metronone and slowed down. i play most accuratley at 130. hopefully i can get faster now!
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 10:45 am / quote |
a7xsoad :
WOW Thanks very much !!!!! Great article 10/10 sir
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 10:57 am / quote |
YourMessiah666 :
Awesome atricle. Thank you very very much. 10/10
Keep it up!

POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 11:38 am / quote |
markieee :
Very good !!
Good thing to check my one technique
I`m gonna learn new shapes right away!

POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 12:36 pm / quote |
rhcpfan27 :
this is fantastic.
if only it had been here a couple months ago.
10/10

POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 01:10 pm / quote |
kalamari :
thanks a lot for this, an article about 'how' to sweep rather than 'what' to sweep. the website is really good as well, need to learn more about voicing chords...
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 01:27 pm / quote |
Sun Child :
Much help
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 01:30 pm / quote |
espliam :
great article, this is gonna help me be aware of mistakes i make in sweep picking from now on.
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 02:09 pm / quote |
Gabysguitar :
great article,i dont put much importance to sweep picking because I dont have the correct technic but you help me out a lot...Thanks. Email me:gabys2guitar@yahoo.com
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 02:44 pm / quote |
kenneth49 :
beautiful O_O
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 03:17 pm / quote |
rik23 :
your the man! cheers
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 03:50 pm / quote |
ldnovelo2 :
10/10
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 04:03 pm / quote |
that1l)ude :
cool article but i disagree strongly with that first sentence.
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 04:36 pm / quote |
 
 m 
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Check check checkity check
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 05:20 pm / quote |
mister_crowley :
Its important to know that once you've gotten past 'the hard bit' it becomes so much easier to sweep pick many other things. I myself have only just cracked this technique and now i can do eaach arpeggio shape with ease. I have to say though.. muting with your thumb..? I can;t do that. just comes out as a pinch harmonic :/
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 05:42 pm / quote |
sum41freak8733 :
lol mister_crowley i have the same problem im so use to doing pinch harmonics with my thumb my fingers kind of ignore my brain , the palm way is better to me , but still need practice this helped though 10/10
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 06:19 pm / quote |
16kramer05 :
Great job man, told me everything I've been missing. I really appreaciate it. Keep it up!
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 07:14 pm / quote |
Rocker3829 :
thats a pretty good list of the common problems, personailly I can't stand the sound of Sweep Picking
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 07:43 pm / quote |
dane619 :
good article the best song to practice sweeping is the woman solo by wolfmother if u play the rite way !!
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 09:54 pm / quote |
siksofus :
The format for the article is terrible! The white text on black gave me a headache after the about 2 paragraphs. No wonder I never really read the articles.
POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 11:44 pm / quote |
Lemon Juice!!! :
Yea, its sad that people think if you cant sweep, your not good. Because thats not true at all, but this was a kool column.
POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 12:31 am / quote |
One Way Ticket :
That linked site is great for theory. Favorited.
POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 12:35 am / quote |
guitarNbass :
Great article. Sweep picking is a bitch. Just pay attention to how you should be practicing, and practice it until you can do it in your sleep, and you'll be fine.
POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 01:16 am / quote |
mister sir :
Good article, bro. I'm glad that you're putting up articles and not trying to rip people off like some dudes on this site...
10*

POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 01:17 am / quote |
Set-Abominae :
Nice. Helped me along. Just gotta get the downward sweep perfected now.
POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 02:59 am / quote |
/Dragon|Force\ :
great article. Much help
POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 03:09 am / quote |
the_poison125 :




POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 04:15 am / quote |
vanceboy :
good pointers on a topic that's somewhat hard to cover.
POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 05:25 am / quote |
Kirenjob :
Thanks.. 10 *'s
POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 06:08 am / quote |
Absent Mind :
Great article,

I have huge problems with my right hand following each string to mute, and finger rolling on one fret.

Cheers

POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 10:29 am / quote |
Limaj_daas :
Amazing article, should help many people find out and overcome their mistakes more easily.
POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 02:11 pm / quote |
mpeskett :
Cool article but I am a bit fed up of seeing article after article on alternate, economy, sweep picking. Everything is about technique. What about actually making music? I'd love to see some articles on using scales like Lydian b7 and Super Locrian to spice blues playing and your improvising, like Robben Ford.

Still a cool article though.

POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 03:55 pm / quote |
TooFast :
mpeskett wrote:

Cool article but I am a bit fed up of seeing article after article on alternate, economy, sweep picking. Everything is about technique. What about actually making music? I'd love to see some articles on using scales like Lydian b7 and Super Locrian to spice blues playing and your improvising, like Robben Ford.

Still a cool article though.


I agree. But this is a great article, and I love the alternate, sweep, economy etc articles as well!

POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 04:41 pm / quote |
seanstar :
very nice article, helped a bunch.
POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 07:16 pm / quote |
pmeater_tamer :
mpeskett wrote:

Cool article but I am a bit fed up of seeing article after article on alternate, economy, sweep picking. Everything is about technique. What about actually making music? I'd love to see some articles on using scales like Lydian b7 and Super Locrian to spice blues playing and your improvising, like Robben Ford.

Still a cool article though.


i agree.

i also think too much emphasis is placed on sweet picking as in the begining where it was said that it seperated average from highly advanced

mpeskett wrote:

Cool article but I am a bit fed up of seeing article after article on alternate, economy, sweep picking. Everything is about technique. What about actually making music? I'd love to see some articles on using scales like Lydian b7 and Super Locrian to spice blues playing and your improvising, like Robben Ford.

Still a cool article though.


i also agree with this.


but it is still a great article and it will help me much for me to try to learn this technique so i can become more diverse

POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 09:02 pm / quote |
deaththrashcore :
I think No 5 is the most common I've seen
POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 10:31 pm / quote |
the_bi99man :
Mike always does great articles.
POSTED: 06/25/2007 - 12:14 am / quote |
nao_guy :
since when was sweeping used for just arpeggios
POSTED: 06/25/2007 - 06:02 am / quote |
mpeskett :
nao_guy wrote:

since when was sweeping used for just arpeggios


Good point. Rather than listening to people like Rusty Cooley who I hate with a passion, listen to people like Django Reindhart and Frank Gambale. Django was probably the first person to ever use sweep picking.

POSTED: 06/25/2007 - 10:25 am / quote |
mpeskett :
mpeskett wrote:

nao_guy wrote:

since when was sweeping used for just arpeggios

Good point. Rather than listening to people like Rusty Cooley who I hate with a passion, listen to people like Django Reindhart and Frank Gambale. Django was probably the first person to ever use sweep picking.


Oh by the way I wasn't directing that at you nao_guy, was just a general comment to everyone

POSTED: 06/25/2007 - 10:26 am / quote |
CapnKickass :
problem number 1: GUILTY. me like fast! zoom zoom!! lol
POSTED: 06/25/2007 - 12:54 pm / quote |
LayThisToRest :
dude serisously thanks so much for writing this article. i need to take the time to practice slow and work with finger rolling and the shapes of the notes and chords. serisouly 10/10 thanks a bunch
POSTED: 06/25/2007 - 09:53 pm / quote |
hammetjunior13 :
thnx
POSTED: 06/25/2007 - 10:54 pm / quote |
MetalHead816 :
these are basically every problem i have except like the last 2
POSTED: 06/25/2007 - 11:31 pm / quote |
Guitar_Poet :
nice article, its good to see an article that is at least reliable and somewhat helpful. basically the answer to all technique problems is: play it slowwwww and perfect, and speed it up, keeping that pattern of perfection. then youll have it down solid, great technique, etc... anyway, nice article.
POSTED: 06/26/2007 - 02:53 am / quote |
Fender_boi_101 :
ok well...how the hell are you ment to mute...you say how to but dnt explain it...i end up the palm muting the sttings n it sounds crap, and i can kidna go fast but the bloody G string keeps ringing...the guitar G string incase any1 got differnat ideas...anyway...i just cant mute thwe unwanted strings cos i end up muting the wanted strings too....GRRR
POSTED: 06/26/2007 - 10:33 am / quote |
Tedward :
it seems that I have learned how to sweep easier than aa lot of others. When I read this all of these were not really problems for me but technique to learn. I am going to need to start learning theory, because i have no idea what the hell a triadic diatone kljfdajkhj wtf lol.

great lesson. Should help a lot of people.

POSTED: 06/26/2007 - 12:51 pm / quote |
Paul Lambeth :
Great article. I definately attack it too fast, I consciously try to slow it down but the patience required to increase your speed gradually is annoying. Very nice article, good pointers, but this isn't just useful for sweeping; any kind of fast soloing, scale climbing etc comes into this (palm muting technique etc.).
POSTED: 06/26/2007 - 04:25 pm / quote |
Warheart1188 :
This is an amazing article. I had these exact problems years ago when I learned sweeping. I also see my students with these same symptoms as well. By golly you nailed it!
POSTED: 06/26/2007 - 08:46 pm / quote |
Warheart1188 :
Fender_boi_101 wrote:

ok well...how the hell are you ment to mute...you say how to but dnt explain it...i end up the palm muting the sttings n it sounds crap, and i can kidna go fast but the bloody G string keeps ringing...the guitar G string incase any1 got differnat ideas...anyway...i just cant mute thwe unwanted strings cos i end up muting the wanted strings too....GRRR

When it comes to muting in sweeping, you kinda have to find little spots on your palm and feel the strings to mute the ones you don't wanna hear when you lift a finger off a string. I don't know how to explain itexactly because you have to feel it as you're playing.

POSTED: 06/26/2007 - 08:50 pm / quote |
gibsonboy3 :
great article but still wont really help me learn how to sweap pick.
POSTED: 06/26/2007 - 11:15 pm / quote |
gwitersnamps :
Sweep picking is considered by many to be a technique that separates average players from highly advanced players

There's problem #1

POSTED: 06/27/2007 - 05:50 pm / quote |
anoreorcist12 :
Fender_boi_101 wrote:

ok well...how the hell are you ment to mute...you say how to but dnt explain it...i end up the palm muting the sttings n it sounds crap, and i can kidna go fast but the bloody G string keeps ringing...the guitar G string incase any1 got differnat ideas...anyway...i just cant mute thwe unwanted strings cos i end up muting the wanted strings too....GRRR

POSTED: 06/27/2007 - 06:10 pm / quote |
anoreorcist12 :
Fender_boi_101 wrote:

ok well...how the hell are you ment to mute...you say how to but dnt explain it...i end up the palm muting the sttings n it sounds crap, and i can kidna go fast but the bloody G string keeps ringing...the guitar G string incase any1 got differnat ideas...anyway...i just cant mute thwe unwanted strings cos i end up muting the wanted strings too....GRRR

srry screwed up up there^^^... anyway, i just start with not muting anything, then move my palm down each string as i go downuntil it covers all but the low e string. do the reverse going up. hope that made sense im not the best at explaining things.

POSTED: 06/27/2007 - 06:13 pm / quote |
Dutchpicking :
nice article!a mute technique i learned was with bar chords like f and g and so on, like you just keep on playing and then slightly lift yyoure fingers wich mute the whole chord without using your palm. And if to play a song like "what's up - 4 non blondes" to keep in rythm with thos 16 strokes in one measure dont touch the stings with the pick. wich i find a sort of muting. hopfully usefull. make more lessons
POSTED: 06/28/2007 - 12:49 pm / quote |
geldunazz :
cool ! :
POSTED: 06/29/2007 - 05:38 am / quote |
KillrBuckeye :
I didn't see my two biggest challenges on this list. First, how does one cleanly execute 3-string sweeps starting with a pull-off on the high E, sweeping upward but only hitting the G string ONCE before coming back down, i.e. EpE-B-G-B-E. For the life of me, I cannot avoid hitting the G string a second time on the way back down, and it sounds like crap.

Second, for certain shapes one must play the same fret on three adjacent strings. Does the finger "roll" technique apply to this situation? I don't really see how it's possible to "roll" your finger over three strings in a fast, fluid, motion.

POSTED: 06/29/2007 - 11:33 am / quote |
axe_2_grind :
KillrBuckeye wrote:
Second, for certain shapes one must play the same fret on three adjacent strings. Does the finger "roll" technique apply to this situation? I don't really see how it's possible to "roll" your finger over three strings in a fast, fluid, motion.


Yes it can be done, but it is a very subtle technique to learn and takes a lot of practice. You just have to learn how to control each individual joint in your left hand (or right if you're left handed)

I have to agree on the point of learning to roll the left hand. It's all about getting the pick and the fingers in sync. I recommend practicing with the metronome with triplets or sextuplets, or else experiment and find note combinations that fit into 4/4 tome and just up the tempo a little each day.

It took me a couple of years to get it anywhere close to sounding good, and then I started noticing the little flaws in my playing and learned to correct them. Like any technique it just take time and patience.

POSTED: 06/29/2007 - 03:43 pm / quote |
6(ric)6 :
great article man but usually wen im learnin somethin i jus try 2 play it fast over and over til i get it right wich doesnt work for alot of ppl but ill try to more often with sweeps
POSTED: 06/30/2007 - 05:19 pm / quote |
gibsonxgirl667 :
still can't sweep pick cuz i suck, but very good tips.
POSTED: 07/01/2007 - 07:07 pm / quote |
xvictimofadownx :
this article help me play me sweeps better 10/10
POSTED: 07/01/2007 - 07:56 pm / quote |
SkullOfSteel875 :
a problem i had when i started learning it was doing the hammer-ons and pull-offs faster than the rest of the notes but i sorted it out quickly. great article anyway.
POSTED: 07/02/2007 - 03:18 am / quote |
eddiesclone :
Very good! This is all true and correct. I need to practice my rolls and read up my theory.
POSTED: 07/02/2007 - 03:33 pm / quote |
Punky_Joe :
I'm afraid i don't even know HOW to sweep pick.

i've only been playing three years.

if someone could tell me what it's all about (messaging?) i would appreciate it.

i assume it's letting your pick do strokes on the strings down the guitar then back up?

i don't know. i practise basic things.

nice article... if someone explains sweep picking i'll DEFINATELY find myself coming back to this page =P

POSTED: 07/04/2007 - 05:04 pm / quote |
Chiefwiddler :
A good technique it is...but I would say learning to write effective passages of music that fit the music, and move the listener, is a better skill to have. A blur of notes may make up for some creative shotcomings, but not for long!
POSTED: 07/05/2007 - 08:26 am / quote |
Omnislash502 :
to punky joe: just look up sweep picking on youtube tho i think you pretty much got the idea...
POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:06 pm / quote |
Melting_Faces :
This article was very informative to me and all-round it helped me quite a bit. however i am still struggling with certain aspects of this technique as i have only just started to practice it.

I want to bring the idea of muting the strings with ure palm or thum back up. I have found this most difficult and it is proveing to be the prodominant problem i am experiencing. The ascending part of the arpeggio (down strokes) are a real pain, especially when tackling something like a 5-string sweep (as in my case) as i cannot yet articulate the individual notes propperly.

Maybe and most probably i have been playing too fast but it seems that most of my problems lie with muting the strings. Can anyone help me out here?

POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 05:19 am / quote |
BigRudy :
MMMKAY
POSTED: 07/14/2007 - 06:23 pm / quote |
GuitarHero0715 :
cataclysm34 wrote:

There's one part in here I have qualms with... All the best sweepers do it simply through economy of motion and lifting their fingers off the fretboard instead of relying on their palm which doesn't make sense in a descending arpeggio. So just food for thought. Other than that the article was alright.


You dont need to mute them in a descending sweep because your left hand is already muting the strings while reaching for the lower strings.

POSTED: 07/15/2007 - 08:14 am / quote |
Jackolas :
I am a high level intemediate guitarist but have serious trouble with this sweep picking shit.
POSTED: 07/17/2007 - 08:13 am / quote |
Aminos :
thanks, that was really helpful
POSTED: 07/17/2007 - 11:20 am / quote |
rattlesnake69 :
10/10 great!
POSTED: 07/18/2007 - 08:38 am / quote |
RICKYISDEAD15 :
i see this alot whith beginer sweeps

lets talk tone

if you use the rythem/neck pickup it sound much more accurate

the tone is important i think its best to use less mid and focus more on the bass and mid balance on your amp be shure to use heavy picks as well i suggest 1.0s

POSTED: 09/05/2007 - 07:52 pm / quote |
We Remain :
dane619 wrote:

good article the best song to practice sweeping is the woman solo by wolfmother if u play the rite way !!


Correct me if im wrong but itsnt it an organ solo?

POSTED: 11/23/2007 - 09:48 pm / quote |
Typik :
I've been practicing sweep picking, and according to this article I've been doing all the wrong things! I'm not surprised, I don't sound good when I sweep pick, thansk a TON for this article!
POSTED: 12/27/2007 - 08:19 pm / quote |
FalloutDude :
shit

POSTED: 02/29/2008 - 02:47 pm / quote |
deafening :
Chiefwiddler wrote:

A good technique it is...but I would say learning to write effective passages of music that fit the music, and move the listener, is a better skill to have. A blur of notes may make up for some creative shotcomings, but not for long!


why u hating?

POSTED: 03/22/2008 - 05:02 pm / quote |
death of emos :
very nice
POSTED: 07/19/2008 - 03:17 am / quote |
craig-sansum :
still cant mute the string what im not playing :@...
POSTED: 04/24/2009 - 07:44 am / quote |
chipmanman :
Thanks for telling me what I shouldn't sound like. I'm a 2 week beginner but that hasn't stopped me from trying anything on the guitar- including sweep picking.

I fail at #6//#7 but how can you possibly know music theory if you've never studied music before.

I have a good ear for my mistakes though- sometimes its not easy to know how I should be correcting them... There are so many different ways to control sound on the guitar it's incredible.

I also fail at muting. I can play my simple shapes perfectly clean while playing slow, but as I speed up and add distortion I leave annoying open string noise from lifting my left hand fingers from the strings.. This is what I should be palm muting right?

For someone who wants to ultimately create his own melodic metal riffs I found this piece helpful.

POSTED: 05/26/2009 - 01:35 am / quote |
mikevmpr3 :
one problem i face is "over muting" the strings? what i mean by this , is when i go to hit the next note in the arpeggio shape. its a musted noted (this mostly occurs when going up to the DGC strings (i play in drop)what is up? alos some things to keep in mind is string gauges and pick thinknesses
POSTED: 06/19/2009 - 02:32 am / quote |
mikevmpr3 :
and other problems is the actual picking some people tell me to hold the pick flat, and other tell me to hold it and sweep it at an angle.
POSTED: 06/19/2009 - 02:35 am / quote |
mikevmpr3 :
ANd one last thing i face, i find my self picking to hard, or to lightly
POSTED: 06/19/2009 - 02:36 am / quote |
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