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On Memorizing. Part One

author: Jamie_Andreas date: 02/09/2008 category: general music
rating: 7.7 / votes: 28 
POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 05:37 am
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 comments posted
Jackolas :
Very interesting stories and ideas!
POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 06:49 am / quote |
Jackolas :
Wait this article repeats itself twice, delete the repeat and it will be way more presentable!
POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 06:53 am / quote |
TdotBass :
Repeating is a tool to help you memorize things...get it?
POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 07:17 am / quote |
peacemoles :
fourth! good stuff
POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 07:25 am / quote |
burntomato :
uh.. no duh?
POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 08:18 am / quote |
kennethdave :
Excelent point, been duin this for years now..
POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 08:37 am / quote |
fagelamusgtr :
Even though i don't have a problem memorizing music, this article was great. It gave me a few awesome pointers. Can't wait for the next one.
POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 11:41 am / quote |
majonior :
wow i can't even read sheet music i stick to tabs so memorization was just the way i had to go
POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 01:33 pm / quote |
rokknrollldude :
majonior :
wow i can't even read sheet music i stick to tabs so memorization was just the way i had to go


start learning to read music..It will open up your world as far as guitar goes

POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 02:56 pm / quote |
sxymnky777 :
i didn't know people had trouble memorizing songs. Well maybe memorize is the wrong word
POSTED: 02/09/2008 - 09:24 pm / quote |
Zebra_Planet :
hm... not sure about other people, but i depend solely on memorisation and sounding out stuff. i cant read sheet music either. and so far im not too troubled by it.
POSTED: 02/10/2008 - 10:58 am / quote |
thefoldarsoldar :
TdotBass wrote:

Repeating is a tool to help you memorize things...get it?


haha I didn't think of that.

POSTED: 02/10/2008 - 11:13 am / quote |
mattgab1 :
This is indeed good advice, but it does not only pertain to guitar playing, but rather, anything. Items #1 and #3 are the most important, in fact. Recent findings in neuroscience reveal that the brain's long-term memory center (mainly, the hippocampus and prefrontal cortex), indicate that the sole method of forming memories is repetition. The process itself that the brain uses is referred to as "chunking". Without getting too deeply into it, one's proficiency will tend to allow larger chunks and the mind can use about 3 chunks at once. A chunk is portion of something. In chess, it is usually a specific position on the board, and one's developed skill determines whether it comprises 10 pieces or the whole board. In music, it could be one measure, or several. A few chunks might make an entire verse riff, or most of the Freebird solo.

Everyone already probably knows that it is easier to memorize a song (or anything) by taking small parts of it rather than playing the entire song over and over. The "isolated sections" will develop the chunks and help one memorize the song.

I could safely assume that neuroscience is of little interest to the average guitar player (or anyone), but I am relating these statements because the way the brain memorizes things is not a mystery anymore.

POSTED: 02/10/2008 - 01:29 pm / quote |
brandonmontana :
i play mostly from memory, but if i have the tab or whatever close by i usually sit it near me so i can look if i forget part of a song.
POSTED: 02/10/2008 - 11:03 pm / quote |
mp3stalin :
im horrible at sight reading... so i never had much of a choice :P tabs are only useful for memorizing patterns.
POSTED: 02/10/2008 - 11:16 pm / quote |
prateak :
yeah i also realized this and i have been developing pyaing memory since i was almost blank for memory
POSTED: 02/11/2008 - 07:02 am / quote |
nolanxxx :
sweet article..yeah, the part of you taht goes "I'll never be able to play this" is a RETARD. Tell him to shut the fack up! I learned songs that some would say were above my skill level...most of Blitzkrieg by Yngwie Malmsteen, Bullet Proof Scales by Despised Icon, and Heretics and Killers by Protest the Hero..jsut to name a few. I've only been playing for about a year and a half and I can do them all pretty smoothly..not perfect, but well enough to play with teh song and make me wanna keep playing. Anyone could learn it, you just gotta practice it a loot, it took me half a year to be able to play half of Blitzkrieg with the song. I still learned others songs, i'd just go back to it everyonce in a while. THeres no such thing as natural talent, well theres things that help..like long finger, but anyone can become really good at guitar, just gotta practice. Play things that are supposedly above your skill level and it will force you up to that skill level. My comments been pretty shitty. so all i wanna say is BANAN-O-RAMA!
POSTED: 02/11/2008 - 08:37 am / quote |
nolanxxx :
took***...sixth line
POSTED: 02/11/2008 - 08:39 am / quote |
nasadm :
wow people have trouble memorizing? I don't know anyone who does..... okay only one but out of how many people I know? all they have to do is try harder memorizing is possible for everyone some people have to put more effort in than others... and he took an entire article to say that.
POSTED: 02/11/2008 - 03:27 pm / quote |
Jumboshrmp :
While I have always been able to memorize music, I never really knew why, and this article explains exactly why.
I'm trying to teach my friend how to play guitar, and it's really hard trying to teach someone technique, and moving on to a chord and having them already pressing the strings wrong because they just did it right once and moved on.

POSTED: 02/11/2008 - 09:08 pm / quote |
AwesomeDrummer :
Jumboshrmp wrote:

While I have always been able to memorize music, I never really knew why, and this article explains exactly why.
I'm trying to teach my friend how to play guitar, and it's really hard trying to teach someone technique, and moving on to a chord and having them already pressing the strings wrong because they just did it right once and moved on.


Same here brother

POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 05:28 am / quote |
freakypop :
what dose it mean to me if i play my memo but cant even read a note a sheet music
POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 11:36 am / quote |
zerodeck :
I always play that way:p so I'm doing good I guess
POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 11:42 am / quote |
bmfh07 :
thats good tops man good tips
POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 11:57 am / quote |
Viktor Smidy :
I cant play from notes at all...I have to remember all the music from tabs...It prepares you for rocking on the stage
POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 12:34 pm / quote |
geluidsterroris :
start learning to read music..It will open up your world as far as guitar goes


reading music only allows you to play songs others created. Improvistion will "open up your world" a lot more. It gives you creativity, and some 'feeling' for the music.

POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 01:10 pm / quote |
Jsthegr8 :
good read, keeps me in check....I have a tendacy to wonder off while practicing a piece
POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 02:54 pm / quote |
Mattson :
Great suggestions, should be a load of help to people with trouble here. I've never had any problems memorizing but I think this will help me become even better at it. =)
POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 03:33 pm / quote |
Quantonyne :
coming back to a song you are stuck on helps...good example...Bed of Razors - Children of Bodom...2 years ago i could play the intro for shit...now i can play it flawlessly...but at first did i focus on the intro...not really...i worked on the other parts of the song i could play...every once and a while i would go back to the intro and compare how much i got better...so i dont know if that helps anyone...just pick out the parts you can play 100% then keep going back to the hard parts.
POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 03:37 pm / quote |
macfries :
Thanks for that was a good read and sounds like I need to focus more
POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 07:49 pm / quote |
MetallicaNRoses :
this could be posted on better places than a tab site. generally people memorize things better if they have to keep going back to the computer screen every time they forget.

just a thought.

POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 09:37 pm / quote |
Horizon FR-II :
I have no problem memorizing and i dont know many people who do :X
POSTED: 02/12/2008 - 10:22 pm / quote |
broken fusion! :
rokknrollldude wrote:

majonior :
wow i can't even read sheet music i stick to tabs so memorization was just the way i had to go

start learning to read music..It will open up your world as far as guitar goes


meh I beg to differ

POSTED: 02/13/2008 - 12:09 am / quote |
Starchild_ex4 :
If no one who has left a post has any trouble memorizing music, then wtf? This article could be about ppl having "issues" with picking their nose. Well, gee! I myself dont have trouble picking my nose, but its a well thought out and helpful article.
POSTED: 02/13/2008 - 02:00 am / quote |
IQuitMyDayJob :
Ya, I've been playing like 5 years, but i just started taking classes 2 years ago... Now i can play anything from memory, my sister and dad used to play moonlight sonata, as a duet when i was 8, and i can play it from memory after not hearing it for 9 years... But i can hardly read notes at all. In contrast, my younger brother, who started taking classes about the same time as me, can read notes easily... Except he couldn't play from memory with a gun down his throat.
POSTED: 02/13/2008 - 03:21 am / quote |
max1107 :
This is very true, i find it easy to play from memory, by breaking it up in sections
POSTED: 02/13/2008 - 05:53 am / quote |
Gamerke :
I've been doing this sinds I first started playing the guitar ^^
POSTED: 02/13/2008 - 08:01 am / quote |
nansjs :
I have relied on chords in front of me for so long. I've used them as a crutch and would mess up if I didn't have them. I want to play from memory w/o music but I know I'll make a mistake. Especially doing more than 1 song. How do you keep them straight? ang suggestions? I wish my fingers would automatically go to the chords I want to hear. I do practice alot!!
POSTED: 02/13/2008 - 09:19 am / quote |
M.B.MetalTabber :
ok, it repeats itself...weird but a good joke, but this is very easy to memorise...

i never struggle to memorise guitar parts, bass parts, drum parts etc, but i find lyrics really hard to memorise for some reason :S this didn't really help there...

POSTED: 02/13/2008 - 01:13 pm / quote |
ShredderOmega :
Play along with the playback Powetab or something, it helps you to memorise it as you simply can't look ahead and get a peak of the next 4 bars, you have to already know them. Though make sure you go through it a few times at your own pace first, run over the riffs.
POSTED: 02/13/2008 - 01:56 pm / quote |
HiyuKantaro :
When preforming I wouldn't look at my hands, but at the audience.. And give a cool show.. but it was a very good article!
POSTED: 02/13/2008 - 03:50 pm / quote |
handlerb :
That was the longest, most utterly useless thing I've read in a good while. Who can't play by memory? Can any one person here not play a song without a UG webpage in front of your face.
POSTED: 02/14/2008 - 03:09 am / quote |
difitzio :
Probably everyone can play a couple of songs by memory but he's trying to point out, to those who are relying on sheets too much... that they will progress much more if they make their brains do the work... and it doesnt look to great when somebody is playing a song off a sheet
POSTED: 02/14/2008 - 09:51 am / quote |
Chiefwiddler :
The way not to rely on sheets is never to use sheets in the first place. Not as a coherent piece anyhow. Learn each bit, one at a time, then put it all together. I didnt really think this was a problem for guitarists? Not to warrant an essay anyway!
POSTED: 02/14/2008 - 10:48 am / quote |
nansjs :
I guess when you play music by notes and staff... ie piano, you are used to playing w/sheet music in front of you. Sure when you practice the piece several times you get it by heart accidentally, but there are those out there that have a problem memorizing every song they play... ME for instance!!!
POSTED: 02/14/2008 - 10:03 pm / quote |
vjferrara :
i like this article. it doesn't really apply to me that much because i have a photographic memory when it comes to music so memorization isn't really that big a problem. kudos though
POSTED: 02/14/2008 - 11:52 pm / quote |
jo5ef :
I reckon therees a deeper problem of learning the notes vs learning the patterns or themes of a piece. exhibit A: all the leaborately tabbed solos on this site. People, theres no point in learning rock or blues guitar solos note for note.
POSTED: 02/15/2008 - 09:27 pm / quote |
eddy norbulous :
I have ultimate problem: to play guitar and singing at the same time..i cannot sing when im playing guitar..and cannot play guitar when im singing..it's just so hard for me..huhu..
POSTED: 02/26/2008 - 06:29 am / quote |
Fenderite :
Great article
POSTED: 02/28/2008 - 05:16 pm / quote |
Stampede :
This is a really good lesson. I'm interested in the next article.

I also have a hard time memorizing stuff, but my biggest problem is when I play in front of people i often forget the songs that I do know! I was playing a show once and was playing the lead to Turn the Page and just all of a sudden forgot the lick. It sounded awful and everyone easliy heard the mess up.

POSTED: 03/14/2008 - 01:45 pm / quote |
demonmouse500 :
I've never really considered a song learned until I've memorized it. This helped a bit because anytime I get stuck on trying to memorize a part of a song, I get that 'I can't play this' voice. Good article.
POSTED: 03/29/2008 - 03:24 pm / quote |
Lukeydoodly :
Interesting...
POSTED: 04/02/2008 - 02:18 pm / quote |
daemonarchangel :
Very good article. I've been a musician for years but I mostly played Trumpet and sang in choir. I only picked up the guitar about a month ago but this same method is the one I've used all these years. Focus on the trouble spots in your piece but try it from memory as you're fixing it. The biggest problem with memorizing a song is remembering where to put your fingers! So just watch them. Even if you don't know what notes they are you can get in the habit of playing the same thing over and over then it'll stick.
POSTED: 04/23/2008 - 01:42 pm / quote |
lestat1836 :
Jamie is a horrible player, this person is a joke as a musician. Might have cool ideas about playing, but cannot play for crap.
POSTED: 05/30/2008 - 08:09 pm / quote |
lestat1836 :
and this article is 8 years old!
POSTED: 05/30/2008 - 08:10 pm / quote |
Jawshuwa :
jo5ef wrote:

I reckon therees a deeper problem of learning the notes vs learning the patterns or themes of a piece. exhibit A: all the leaborately tabbed solos on this site. People, theres no point in learning rock or blues guitar solos note for note.


Maybe we want to play them note-for-note ? l0l ?
Like "Iron Man." It just can't be played any other way. You would butcher it. =P ! Throw in an improvised guitar solo somewhere, but apart from that, gotta know it note-for-note.

POSTED: 06/01/2008 - 04:05 pm / quote |
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