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Punk In Depth. Part 4: The Culture Behind The Music

author: MrLucky77713 date: 09/23/2004 category: general music
rating: 8.5 / votes: 34 
POSTED: 09/23/2004 - 11:36 am
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 63 
 comments posted
erling :
cool article
POSTED: 09/23/2004 - 12:20 pm / quote |
Shifty08 :
Great Article lucky, enjoyed the read.
POSTED: 09/23/2004 - 03:15 pm / quote |
chuckles_34 :
Good article/series
POSTED: 09/23/2004 - 03:50 pm / quote |
rhcpcure2826 :
one of the few aritcles about punk to not say, "PUNKS DIDNT SELL OUT THEY PLAY THE MUSIC THEY LOVE BECAUSE ITS AN EXPRESSION OF HOW BAD OFF THE US AND THE UK WERE"


when that just gets boring and tired...

POSTED: 09/23/2004 - 04:05 pm / quote |
darkstar9814 :
great article
POSTED: 09/23/2004 - 07:06 pm / quote |
KevinHallX :
finally someone with something worth saying - 5 stars
POSTED: 09/23/2004 - 11:19 pm / quote |
mackdaddy :
about time someone wrote this,
5 stars

POSTED: 09/23/2004 - 11:51 pm / quote |
adia :
yupyup it worths reading it
POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 03:26 am / quote |
tbs_182 :
Excellent series lucky
POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 11:27 am / quote |
albertrocks :
a movement, a rebellion, a revolution.
great.

POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 11:38 am / quote |
egor :
good written , but nothing new ...
POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 02:20 pm / quote |
washbrnxb105 :
punk is doing what you wanna do no matter what anyone tells you even if it is what they tell you. You do what YOU wanna do
POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 02:56 pm / quote |
BMBH :
Pretty good article
POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 03:01 pm / quote |
numbfinger :
good artice but punk scks its to repetitive
POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 04:53 pm / quote |
Metalology :
great read, great series too 5
POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 06:18 pm / quote |
brendan666 :
good job. but dont you just hate it when they label certain mainstream bands as punk? like blink 182, good charolotte, simple plan, yellow card etc... like none of those bands that I listed shouldn't be called punk or even pop punk ( which is the dumbest thing thats every existed in music history ).. anyways back on topic, good job. sounds like you spent alot of time on it, and came up with great information.
POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 06:29 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
washbrnx: No it isn't.
brendan: No, I don't hate it when pop-punk bands are referred to as punk. In the most basic way, they are. However, when someone starts comparing them to a straight punk/ "true" punk/ whatever you feel like calling it, I note the difference in genre. Pop-punk isn't stupid. It's a great genre.

numbfinger: I don't give half a damn what you think about punk. But it isn't repeptive. You're stereotyping the genre by what little you've probably heard. "All generalizations are false"

Thanks for the input everyone.

POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 08:05 pm / quote |
bassist90 :
Great article Lucky. Well worth the time and energy, on your part and ours. This article has been long overdue, and I'm glad you took the initiative to do it. Finally, when someone asks "What is punk?", I'll have somewhere to point 'em to. Five stars.
POSTED: 09/24/2004 - 08:05 pm / quote |
dkmfan4189 :
***in awesome article, was a good read. it shut my firend brian up (he keeps giving punk a certain label and it kinda bugs me)
POSTED: 09/25/2004 - 01:42 pm / quote |
atc228 :
great article, keep it up, twas very openminded, the worlds too closed minded,
POSTED: 09/25/2004 - 04:33 pm / quote |
guitarfreak1212 :
when i thing of punk... i think of the offspring then most everyone in the grunge era. totally different styles but same culture. this article was very true.
give it 5 stars

POSTED: 09/25/2004 - 06:49 pm / quote |
joe_barge :
Joe Strummer was rich?
POSTED: 09/25/2004 - 09:39 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
^Yeah. Easily a millionaire. His credibility in the UK scene was questioned because of the huge Oi! following there, which tended towards the lower middle class.

Once again, thanks to everyone for the praise.

POSTED: 09/25/2004 - 11:52 pm / quote |
Rockstar_450 :
good article
POSTED: 09/26/2004 - 03:25 am / quote |
numetaldude :
to be a punk, one does not swallow bullshit that's fed to him. a punk questions. a punk thinks for himself.

great article, man! the clash rock..

POSTED: 09/26/2004 - 10:11 am / quote |
strangled :
one aspect not brought out (probably because this is a music site but what ever) is skateboarding it started APROXIMATLY the same time and punk and skateboarding have close ties
POSTED: 09/26/2004 - 03:04 pm / quote |
Ncsk8erdude :
Great article. 5 stars
POSTED: 09/26/2004 - 03:11 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
Strangled - Punk and Skating's only real ties are in the skate-punk genre and the strong sense of individuality...Long live Rodney Mullen...
POSTED: 09/26/2004 - 08:50 pm / quote |
Anger :
Good job. I liked it. I hope this open the minds of a few ppl who thinks that clothes makes u punk, who think that voting for Kerry makes u punk. Punks thinks by themselves...Great ending. I agree, punk is everything but dead.
POSTED: 09/27/2004 - 01:23 pm / quote |
DumbKids :
good job.
POSTED: 09/27/2004 - 03:58 pm / quote |
whyvern :
Music serves to elevate lift our souls fill our lives with joy and hope.
POSTED: 09/27/2004 - 11:05 pm / quote |
scionist :
That was the first good article on this topic so far. Everytime I hear my friends say: Stop listening to bands like Nirvana, Offspring, Pennywise etc. I feel like I'm about to burst. Who cares if they have "sold out"? They make (made) great music and they are still different to what is mainstream. 5 stars!
POSTED: 09/28/2004 - 06:58 am / quote |
Define_"punk" :
what sinced when did nirvana sold out scionist? and yeh love those punk articles mr lucky77713 oh n rodney mullen does rock \m/
POSTED: 09/28/2004 - 10:56 am / quote |
battleofla :
Rodney mullen does rock indeed!

Execellent article!

POSTED: 09/28/2004 - 01:50 pm / quote |
Unseen_hero :
once again great article from our punk/ska column representative.

might a suggest to all of you still drowning in stereotypical punk rock bias to read the other 3 articles about the history and find some bands to check out.

POSTED: 09/28/2004 - 05:08 pm / quote |
proguit933 :
great article, now that it has been written and people have read it do we all still have to define it and put our little spin on it? i mean now we have 4 articles on it so peole can stop saying punk isnt about this or that its about blah blah blah. thanks for making it clear for everybody, cuz i was sick of everybody saying shit like that.
POSTED: 09/30/2004 - 11:47 pm / quote |
slash_rhoads :
great article, punk still sucks
POSTED: 10/01/2004 - 07:50 pm / quote |
ma)(payne :
great.....defiently the way i feel to
POSTED: 10/01/2004 - 09:51 pm / quote |
Tom :
this is dumb. Pampi is not having punk. Punk is about girls not calling you back
POSTED: 10/02/2004 - 01:56 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
^What the hell are you talking about?
POSTED: 10/03/2004 - 02:00 pm / quote |
PsychoWolfD :
I only like old punk. (Ramones, Iggy Pop, etc.)
POSTED: 10/03/2004 - 02:35 pm / quote |
fAeRiE~qUeEn :
phsya me too..LOVE the ramones..what the hel is "new" punk anyway?..uberfull article by the by..***..
POSTED: 10/03/2004 - 03:14 pm / quote |
rockstar1939 :
I really enjoyed your article.

yeah that is true too dude but thats not the only thing behind punk





Tom:
this is dumb. Pampi is not having punk. Punk is about girls not calling you back

POSTED: 10/03/2004 - 03:40 pm / quote |
afirocker00 :
the whole concept of punk is possibly THE smartest thing to ever be brought about. What the hell makes one person better than the other and why in the hell should we have to follow their ideas and look up to them while they look down on us.We shouldn't and thats what punk rock is all about.
POSTED: 10/03/2004 - 06:01 pm / quote |
Canadiens1160 :
just some little fad with a beginning and an end

Hate to say it, but punk was over in the early 80s for the most part. Bands with a punk label today are far from what the original movement was in terms of ideals and raw energy.

POSTED: 10/03/2004 - 06:01 pm / quote |
Persistent-Lazy :

POSTED: 10/03/2004 - 06:19 pm / quote |
kooldonuts :
thsi due knows what ehs talking about, good research, well thought, just fcken awesome, 5 stars!
POSTED: 10/03/2004 - 09:50 pm / quote |
dylan_f1989 :
That was the first good article on this topic so far. Everytime I hear my friends say: Stop listening to bands like Nirvana, Offspring, Pennywise etc. I feel like I'm about to burst. Who cares if they have "sold out"? They make (made) great music and they are still different to what is mainstream. 5 stars!


Pennywise havn't sold out. They have stayed to the same record label for 13 years, havn't changed there sound and never sold any there interviews to Rolling Stone etc.

phsya me too..LOVE the ramones..what the hel is "new" punk anyway?..uberfull article by the by..***..


Ramones were Pop-Punk.

POSTED: 10/04/2004 - 05:55 am / quote |
Jason144 :
About time someone set the record straight. Great article. And the tie-in to Joe Strummer was icing on the cake. 5 stars.
POSTED: 10/04/2004 - 12:47 pm / quote |
thumbwar123 :
punk is decent... but its not my favorite. im into the classical stuff. good article tho.
POSTED: 10/04/2004 - 04:36 pm / quote |
theMinority :
Excellent article its about time someone wrote this
POSTED: 10/04/2004 - 09:50 pm / quote |
Axl_Duff_Izzy :
Ramones were Pop-Punk.
but no-one cares cos they were great

and by the way

you're wrong

POSTED: 10/06/2004 - 05:26 am / quote |
metOLIca :
ok question what is punk??? cos there are so many bands who call them selfs punk, or have been labeled punk, e.g. what the *** kinda genre is blink 182.... lets just make things easy and get rid of everyhting except metal \m/
POSTED: 10/07/2004 - 06:16 am / quote |
PuNk RoCk 69 :
awesome article very good i like
POSTED: 10/07/2004 - 06:42 am / quote |
Mepantsusobad :
*** you niggas
POSTED: 10/07/2004 - 12:54 pm / quote |
Mepantsusobad :
*** = the f word
POSTED: 10/07/2004 - 12:55 pm / quote |
Warm-And-Fuzzy :
I think people should stop labeling themselves and others, if you like the music you like the music, but you dont have to label yourself
POSTED: 10/07/2004 - 04:55 pm / quote |
emokid182 :
Pretty good article. I really like how u mentioned emo and some hardcore as part of punk. Most people forget that.
POSTED: 10/07/2004 - 07:35 pm / quote |
vizo :
"Many a time it has been asked what punk beliefs are, and the fact is; they don?t exist at all." -- so why create a column labeled 'the culture behind the music'? beliefs, afterall, are part of how a culture is held together. quit contradicting yourself on the lowest level before you post such a lengthy article. think.
POSTED: 10/08/2004 - 10:06 pm / quote |
blitzkriegbop01 :
Best thing I've read in a LOONG time. Great article. I'm just starting to get into punk music but it's already the best thing that has happened to me since I can remember. Punk culture is filled with people that give a shit which I think is ***ing great.
POSTED: 10/10/2004 - 12:23 am / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
Vizo, beliefs aren't ALL of culture, and a really diverse culture may not agree on any but a few beliefs. You said yourself that beliefs are a PART of culture. They are not the by all, end all of it. I'm not contradicting in writing this article and stating that punk belief structures are fictitious. You're simply striking at a small part of culture that is almost totally nonexistent in punk, and using it to somehow attack the notion of a culture at all.
POSTED: 10/14/2004 - 12:56 pm / quote |
jimichild1 :
Dudes I think we need to realize what music has turned into.Where's the soul?the ryhthm and the beat? I understand that music changes but punk is so far from awsome.Think about it who wants to be a punk...punks are the little fat kids who get beat up at the playground.

Bring back the soul people!
peace

POSTED: 01/31/2005 - 08:12 pm / quote |
Flush Monkey :
Sweet man

POSTED: 10/16/2007 - 10:29 pm / quote |
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