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Screaming: For Real

author: chokeme date: 07/05/2004 category: general music
rating: 7.3 / votes: 72 
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 08:45 am
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LastRockShow :
lol i like to think of the way The Used & Finch scream as "Bitch Screaming". not a bad article tho.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 10:05 am / quote |
Shawrie :
2nd. cool article
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 10:22 am / quote |
_pheonix320_ :
3rd, kl article, must try it at next practise
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 10:39 am / quote |
Tim Woodrow :
The used, kick ass, thats all I want to say -
good article.

POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 10:57 am / quote |
SRVGuitarFreak :
dude that's sweet.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 11:38 am / quote |
psychodelia :
all positive comments, yet only a two star rating when i see it. thats weird. if you like his article you might as well rate it.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 11:40 am / quote |
rhcpcure2826 :
im so glad someones recognized nate barcalow's awesome talent with one of the most collaborative bands i know (not THE most, but still)
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 11:51 am / quote |
The Precious :
but what of the roaring type of screamin in heavy metal bands?
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 12:09 pm / quote |
AuthenticBass :
good article, im still no ttgonna try and scream though
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 12:11 pm / quote |
hobo8917 :
okay this article is pointless; it's more like you telling an ancedote of how you learned how to scream
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 12:25 pm / quote |
BarryMcBatt :
okay-ish, finch and the used aren't very good examples, i would have said Killswitch Engage (i hate them for the amount of screaming they do) or better yet Arch Enemy (thats just wrong). Any whats the point, it just gives you a louder nand tackier voice than normal, you can't really express yourself with that (only anger really).

That's my opinion though, so i'd appreciate it if noone had a go at me for expressing it.

Well done for explaining how to do it though, i'm sure lots of people will use your advice.

POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 12:40 pm / quote |
BarryMcBatt :
oops, quite a few typos, its the keyboard gremlins i tells ya.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 12:41 pm / quote |
guitaridiotFM :
i love finch's 'what it is to burn'. I am my bands vocalist/screamer and this article hit what you have to do to scream right on the money
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 12:47 pm / quote |
Wickedcarny :
Article doesnt really help at all to anyone that wants to scream. Most of it is common sense. THat and Finch and the used are HORRIBLE examples of screaming.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 01:19 pm / quote |
ad_lib_oz :
i've got somemore advice when your trying to scream pretend your being raped up the arse
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 01:30 pm / quote |
BNIsinger231 :
^haha
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 01:44 pm / quote |
Rhuube :
it's not that hard....yell as loud as you can for like 5 minutes before you do the song.....then when you go hoarse...just sing normal and when you sing loud it comes out like a good singing scream...and scream that you can change the pitch of...much like linkin park's Chester Bennington
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 01:55 pm / quote |
Guitarooman692 :
Dont The Used only scream on chorus?
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 02:25 pm / quote |
Alleandro23 :
this don't have much to do with screaming, but have any of ya'll ever heard of the band emery? they are a tooth and nail produced band and they are christian, but their first single screames for over 30 seconds straight. its amazing in a bad way tho, man, i don't like screaming in songs, like story of the year, man that guy has a killer voice, why don't he use it more instead of singing, the only band i like the screaming in is the used. they are ok but seriously, i wish that some of the bands that scream would try making a record of just singing. man that would sound awesome
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 02:37 pm / quote |
sensesfail1878 :
Emery is an AMAZING example of screaming.they put so much emotion into their songs by the way they scream.i reccommend downloading the song "Walls" by them to see what i am trying to say.AMAZING band.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 02:59 pm / quote |
MaliciousIntent :
mediocre article, sorry, but I did know most of that, but good motive... I am seriously working on becoming a vocalist, but for metal. I am more into the death and black vocals, and if you know what I'm talking about, then you know that's some hardcore stuff.

For what it's worth, I like screaming in what I listen to, because it expresses a lot of anger, among other things, and it couldn't really be done any otherway.

I think I can do screams like what Dimmu Borgir & Cradle Of Filth do 'okay', but I need more longevity... and I wonder just how the hell do vocalists in those death bands go so LOW?

I can give one bit of advice - build up your chords. Practice whenever you can, just singing in general. As you get to learn those notes over time, when you actually scream, there will be less stress eventually, allowing you to scream through songs like maybe 3-4 minutes long... depends. I gotta keep practicing myself.

POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 03:11 pm / quote |
chevellerox2005 :
my girlfriend is friends w/the guitar player from emery. they are awesome
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 03:43 pm / quote |
TheImmortal :
i agree in the article being mediocre. if you want to learn how to scream, sit in a room and let out your normal scream then try to say words and change notes while screaming; eventually you will get the hang of it, the tip referred to as letting the microphone to the work well i call that "throat screaming" screaming you could do while in your room at 1 in the morning while everyone else is asleep.This sounds like shit and everyone will know you suck. If you want a true bloodcurdling scream it needs to come from the stomach and lung area. This will work very well for you. and to maliciousintent good luck with those vocals. that shit is brutal..but fun all the same. peace.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 05:06 pm / quote |
tyler larsen :
wow..people suck so much these days that they need to LEARN how to scream?
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 05:25 pm / quote |
Snakepit5490 :
if i tied to scream, the neighbors would go insane
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 05:26 pm / quote |
imatraditionman :
wootness for the article
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 05:59 pm / quote |
Mikkel :
how about growling, thats talent, screaming is for pussies who want to try and look tough for something thats piss easy to do. growling like mikael from opeth or any band from that genre is what i call talent.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 06:18 pm / quote |
The_Eddster :
Seriously though you would need to live on your own to practise screaming. Maybe in a detached house too.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 06:59 pm / quote |
theused101 :
yeah i call it bitch screaming to, i do it myself though cuz its the best way
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 07:00 pm / quote |
7LoverLeaver7 :
Great article, First time I screamed I put The Used into my surround sound full blast and just let go.

Problem is with bands like The Used the singer also goes very high and after a little bit of screaming the saliva and mucus that my body built up to distort the scream makes my voice crack and give out....what can I do about that

POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 07:07 pm / quote |
xdespairfactor :
yeah dude for pussy screaming, damned finch and the used. what about for like shai hulud or bleeding through stuff?
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 07:34 pm / quote |
rancidrocker :
Listen to teh Causualities, Jorge has got some pretty good screams
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 07:49 pm / quote |
Tcurtis :
decent article. the used and finch are awesome. so are the casualties.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 08:11 pm / quote |
Testify1 :
hopefully that will work, i will try it next time i try to scream.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 08:14 pm / quote |
vampwizzard :
need a scream for a song.. heres what you do->
1) take your girlfriend
2) make her scream (pleasure or pain.. your choice)
3) record it
4) sample it back a la linkin park

POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 08:24 pm / quote |
musical_landeus :
how about you learn how to really sing then not have to worry about screaming? Screaming a lot is murder on the vocal chords.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 08:30 pm / quote |
Scorpions :
Does anyone else think that the screaming is quite annoying after a while?
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 08:47 pm / quote |
ShamRocker88 :
umm, good article, but not many new ideas here...
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 08:50 pm / quote |
311DEF :
who do you think has a better scream?
lead singer of deftones or billy talent

POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 09:14 pm / quote |
IadultswimI :
F*ck, a real screamer is dani filth-cradle of filth, hes is the #1 screamer in the f*ckin universe, a real good roarer to.... not gay linkin park
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 09:25 pm / quote |
metalmassacre :
what about like a rob halford type scream or a power metal type woah those are some impresive screams i can kinda scream
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 09:38 pm / quote |
korn_rocker_111 :
who do you think has a better scream?
lead singer of deftones or billy talent

Definately Chino from the deftones, but i also think that Corey Taylor, Jon Davis or even Craig Nicholls from the Vines can do it pretty well. But yeah most definately Chino ....quite an interesting choice of an article wouldn't you say?!

POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 09:42 pm / quote |
Dave_Grohl :
i wanna scream like dave grohl
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 09:44 pm / quote |
VelvetĆnema33 :
I think pretty much everyone can scream... its just you need to find the right key to play your songs in.
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 12:01 am / quote |
Ember Ellusion :
I do vocals in my band but have no idea on how u scream..
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 12:03 am / quote |
pepajaktbs2 :
i personally dont like screaming in songs at all
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 12:35 am / quote |
Diceman42 :
Tips.. ON SCREAMING?! Why am I the first to call BS? Who the hell can't scream? Why would you ever want to for an entire song? Screaming's overrated. It's only good in relativity to singing, that's what gives it any power.
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 01:45 am / quote |
DaleH :
This article is totally off the money as far as screaming goes. It will damage your voice if you do this too much. This might sound weird, but if you scream "correctly" with your singing voice you'll be able to do it all night and switch back and forth from screaming to singing w/o sounding hoarse. This is the exact wrong technique for that.
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 01:57 am / quote |
Dashd :
Ok... This guy wrote too damn much and didn't really say a thing!!! I've tried screaming in every possible way and i always end up like I am right now, SPRAINED VOCAL CORDS!!! aaah... life sucks anyways...
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 03:06 am / quote |
JIBTEXHNKA :
"it doesn't hurt (at least for myself, I can't speak for everyone)"

haha get it he cant "speak" for everyone.. and hes talking about screaming.. heh heh.. damn i love a good pun. wait that one sucked but SHUT UP LEAVE ME ALONE

POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 03:45 am / quote |
Alien_from_a_cd :
yea well I think it was a pretty diecent(sp?) column or whatever.
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 07:03 am / quote |
jeremyrozario :
erm...any idiot can scream, if you piss him off well enuff, im a problem child, so i make a pretty good chester-like scream, so this article is pretty redundant
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 08:56 am / quote |
sithian476 :
First and only step:
Get molested as a child.

POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 10:38 am / quote |
SiLeNcEaNSoRrOw :
very good article, you also should have mentioned that sometimes bert screams to much and he pukes so kids dont over do it.
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 01:13 pm / quote |
letsgomurphys06 :
that was decent at best, why does everyone like this?
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 02:15 pm / quote |
DanSumthing :
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 04:02 pm / quote |
Tijmen :
the most crappy pointless, unuseful article i've ever read
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 04:17 pm / quote |
RatiugLink :
Screaming is what makes music suck these days.

You want difficult vocals? Listen to Dream Theater or Symhony X.

POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 04:20 pm / quote |
tremontifan :
there is a correct way to do it (i don't know what it is, but i know that there is one) and that's how the best singers can switch back and forth from screaming or growling to great singing (a la Russell Allen from Symphony X or Mikael from Opeth). do it wrong and you'll screw your voice up big time.
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 04:22 pm / quote |
tremontifan :
Screaming is what makes music suck these days.

You want difficult vocals? Listen to Dream Theater or Symhony X.

exactly. how could i forget labrie?

POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 04:23 pm / quote |
starálfur :
good article, but you could have used better examples of screaming, such as metal/hardcore which invovles a lot of screaming.
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 04:30 pm / quote |
Tom Martin :
Finch are an excellent band, and he can scream well. But that aint nearly as good as half the stuff you get. Listen to some really odd stuff, that will teach you what screaming is!
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 05:22 pm / quote |
TheWalrus135 :
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah......ect.
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 07:56 pm / quote |
Radray990 :
yeah i agree with your tips. you really have to put everything into it. the first time i did this, i was singing an alkaline trio song with my band (i naturally have a bass voice) and i managed to hit an A, a note pretty well into my falsetto range. i can remember feeling my head almost vibrate. its definitely a useful technique for those of us with deep voices (hell, jim morrison did it)
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 09:15 pm / quote |
The_KingofClubs :
hey man you were right... i can scream like a maniac now and my band thinks it's wicked shit! so now we're gonna do a bunch of really hardcore stuff... THANKS MAN! YOU'RE OFICIALLY AWESOME!
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 09:17 pm / quote |
The_Strat_Man :
Good Article.
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 10:22 pm / quote |
cannonball_900 :
this guy was talking bout how he heard screaming in songs most of the times
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 11:55 pm / quote |
Ramco :
I personally am appalled by the number of screamers in the music industry today. I have been singing for years, trying to get my voice to its peak, and then continue to make it better and here you are telling people how to ruin their voices. Screaming is pushing the throat when it doesn't need to be pushed and therefore limits range, tone and scars the throat. I would say instead of listening to the Used and taking this article to heart you should actually try to improve your voice, to find new things your voice can do that don't have long-term damage (adding a gravelly tone to your voice doesn't hurt it, and that's really all a good rock, punk or metal song needs). Personally I feel that songs that are just a guy screaming the whole way through make a mockery of the music industry and also set a double standard for those of you who "hate punk because it is devoid of guitar solos and talent" and yet think someone who can scream their lungs out is a valid art form.
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 11:41 am / quote |
chokeme :
well, thanks to all those woh posted good reviews for my article, and i'm glad i could help those of you who did find use of it! and tot hose who hate screaming, think my kind of screaming sucks, w/e, that's cool, i wrote an article about what I like, and you have all the freedom to write one about your type of screaming, you just have to figure it out and write it. I don't like screaming all the way through a song (although Choke Me by the used is pretty ***in awesome) I definitely love the music side of things and I believe in most cases that screaming needs to be the majority of screaming in a song. I think it sounds cool however and wanted to add it to my 'arsenal' of vocal abilities. It's just one more thing you can do I guess, in addition to singing or playin an instrument. Thanks for the reviews guys.
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 12:01 pm / quote |
chokeme :
uhhh yea, make that 'singing needs to be the majority' what the hell...
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 12:03 pm / quote |
playonforever :
All those peeps that are all up into that gay rock voice like that scott stapp crap, you can kiss a butt. SCREAMO RULES! Christian from Blindisde is the best screamer ever, i would say. I wish he would have said something about some hardcore screamers, once with more of a growl, but its all good.
SWEDEN RULES. Later Days, BEN

POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 12:54 pm / quote |
=bert= :
what aboot us with gay girly voices? i can hit notes of muse(best band in world)proportions and trying to scream your way crates a lot of bleeding ears in those around me.
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 02:30 pm / quote |
chokeme :
if i were you with a higher tenor type voice and had a very high range i would definitely say '***' to screaming. Do not try anything that could hamr your voice, a tenor range is hard to come by, especially a tenor that can actually sing, so keep your voice pristine and stick to singing. PLus, higher voices screaming sounds bad, listen to some old NFG song, i can't remember the title, it's on sticks and stones, it may be belated, i'm not sure, but he screams/growls sort of, yea, it sounds terrible, he sounded like a pissed off 6th grader or something. Stick to singing and keep improving your voice. Mest does rock.
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 03:07 pm / quote |
chokeme :
dammit, I meant Muse, i have poblems with thinking, sorry.
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 03:10 pm / quote |
Scottydont26 :
Nobody does it like Rob Halford. Plus he knows when
and how much to use it without overkill. Too much ruins so many songs and entire bands. If you want to
see how good you are try singing half of the song
Painkiller or the high part in Victim of Changes.

POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 05:24 pm / quote |
ChiliWillie :
listen to children of bodom or nile if you want to hear screaming and growling
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 08:02 pm / quote |
John Alexander :
The kind of screaming you're talking about is can be good, but there are also other ways of heightening your volume without resorting to a scream. A deep, controlled, yell while still in key something I find very powerful. Dave Matthews does it relatively often. "Rhyme and Reason" is the best example of that. I'm sure most don't like or listen to Dave Matthews, but give that song a listen, you might like it.
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 09:07 pm / quote |
bc2skaterpunk :
screaming is for girls
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 09:38 pm / quote |
dirknowitzki13 :
u forgot steven tyler of aerosmith on ur list of screamers along with finch and the used
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 11:08 pm / quote |
korn_rocker_111 :
Does anyone here think Craig Nicholls from the Vines is any good at screaming??
POSTED: 07/08/2004 - 12:57 am / quote |
JimmyPage1969 :
Robert Plant was a screamer before all those fags were just a gleam in the eyes of thier fathers.
POSTED: 07/08/2004 - 01:24 am / quote |
d0t. :
ok, first off, it is true that screaming too much ruins songs and your voice, but if you do it the right way, and the right amount it can make a song have much more meaning (if its an angry song). The best singers/screamers, and I mean both things, are scott anderson of finger eleven and maynard james keenan from tool/perfect circle(maynard sings in both bands) in my opinion those two men have THE MOST versitile voices in the world of music, the three bands are definitly my favorites, also a good kind of screaming is the clearer kind, which is really just extra projection, two good songs for that is "obvious heart" and "absent elements" by finger eleven. a good song for SCREAMING is "eulogy" by tool it has more real singing than screaming but its good, and a good song for growling is "the grudge" by tool, a song that over does screaming though, is "ticks and leeches" by tool, its one of the few tool songs i dont like. and like =bert= said people with high voices said, people with high voices should NOT scream, people like the guy from billy talent, he has a bad enough singing voice he shouldnt scream on top of it, the band is sh*t and the singer should die, and he needs to start singing from his diophram rather than his f*cking nose. but the guitarist is ok:P
POSTED: 07/08/2004 - 01:54 am / quote |
johnnyt :
5 words: stevie tyler and axl rosie
POSTED: 07/08/2004 - 04:14 am / quote |
ILIKEMUSICALOT :
Finch's Nate has a great scream. I know this sounds weird but if any band has actual emotion in a scream, Dashboard Confessional does. Yes, it is weird in fact and I don't care if it sounds like CHRIS CARRABA is whining, he is, but he actually puts REAL emotion into it. Listen to number 10 on his CD, The Places You Have Come To Fear The Most. He crys when he sings that song and at the end, when he's screaming you can feel his pain, it's so badass. His voice chops and skips out because he can't hold his feelings in that he just starts crying while he sings. I mean Jesus Christ the guy can't even really sing that song in public to anyone anymore because he gets so upset. I heard he's only did it about four times. Even if you hate his voice and think his band sucks, give them credit for the amount of emotion he puts into his songs. Even if some of you bitch about him or his band, you must be a bitch for exactly what you did, you bitched.
POSTED: 07/08/2004 - 04:35 am / quote |
robert_smith :
let's have an article on how to scream like dani filth
POSTED: 07/08/2004 - 06:35 am / quote |
chokeme :
Dashboard is absolutle amazing, his voice projects a different type of scream, it's good though. I really love his music. Steven tyler is also an amazing vocalist all around, i love his high picthed sing/scream.
POSTED: 07/08/2004 - 03:03 pm / quote |
ILIKEMUSICALOT :
Yeah, I'm glad you agree on Dashboard's Chris Carraba and his vocal abilities. He really does put emotion into his voice, no matter how much you want to say he whines.
POSTED: 07/08/2004 - 04:15 pm / quote |
SURFraptor7 :
Finch and the Used, huh... How about any metal band where all the lyrics ARE screaming... but good article anyway... I have been wondering about how to scream and whether Im any good at it... I liked it
POSTED: 07/09/2004 - 03:51 pm / quote |
SURFraptor7 :
I think some better examples for "good screaming" would be the singers from Chevelle, Underoath, Emery, and Dead Poetic. Those are all great bands.

chevellerox2005:
my girlfriend is friends w/the guitar player from emery. they are awesome

^^ yes they are ^^

POSTED: 07/09/2004 - 03:59 pm / quote |
niccyishot :
So your saying to scream you have to scream....no shit
POSTED: 07/09/2004 - 05:08 pm / quote |
mcmacbuttwipe :
this is a pretty good article, and i think it does clear up the myth that you have to do anything special to be able to scream. i have had trouble explaining to people how i scream, they just didn't get it when i said 'you just have to put your all into it'
POSTED: 07/10/2004 - 08:35 am / quote |
ILIKEMUSICALOT :
SURFraptor7:
Finch and the Used, huh... How about any metal band where all the lyrics ARE screaming... but good article anyway... I have been wondering about how to scream and whether Im any good at it... I liked it
[POSTED: 09 July 2004 - 15:51]|

Screaming is like an art. There is perfect times to do it and such. Bands like you claim as talented who scream the whole time are not. Screaming is meant to express an emotion. You do it at climaxs of songs to show you are really stressing what you're saying at that moment. To do it all the time. There is no emotion. It's just overkill on a scream to try to sound "cool."

POSTED: 07/11/2004 - 03:29 am / quote |
estoril :
good screaming comes in the form of davey havok of AFI..... listen to death of seasons and if you dont think hes a good screamer then i take it back

with that said, most of the time, screaming is gay

POSTED: 07/12/2004 - 12:32 pm / quote |
chokeme :
So your saying to scream you have to scream....no shit
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Yea..I've read aa couple articles saying that the volume doesn't come from you, that you are supposed to let the microphone get the volume for you, all that You are supposed to do is just make your voice sound right. I was discreditting that info. Otherwise , yea, it's a pretty 'no shit' type of deal. A pepperoni pizza has pepperoni's, yea..

And to all others... screamign for the most part is cool, I don't listen to most other bands listed here, call me what you will, I don't realy like them. I'm not gonna give advice on how to do this that and the other on shit I have no clue about, i listen to Finch and the used and that was the scream sound i was going for. So, i typed an article after finding out how. If you think some other scream sounds better, write one about it. It makes no difference to me.

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Screaming is like an art. There is perfect times to do it and such. Bands like you claim as talented who scream the whole time are not. Screaming is meant to express an emotion. You do it at climaxs of songs to show you are really stressing what you're saying at that moment. To do it all the time. There is no emotion. It's just overkill on a scream to try to sound "cool."
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very true.

POSTED: 07/13/2004 - 02:18 am / quote |
yoshi413 :
This article actually pointed out the simple physics I needed. Thankx. V^_^ Oh, and for the record, Emery is AWESOME!!!
POSTED: 07/15/2004 - 04:19 pm / quote |
yoshi413 :
Oh, and the thing you said about Chris Carabba and Steven Tyler sounding cool. For 1: Dashboard is awesome, and 2: people say I sing like Steven Tyler. lol V^_^
POSTED: 07/15/2004 - 04:29 pm / quote |
vanceboy :
screaming messes up ur voice after awhile. and FINCH owns. however, some bands make screaming sound so gay, like Taking Back Sunday. I hate them, they sound like wooses trying to push their balls out or something.
POSTED: 07/15/2004 - 09:17 pm / quote |
chokeme :
i agree with the 'some bands make it sound like crap', but, i do love taking abck sunday, ont for their screams, but for the singing and music. Senses fail is a band who's screaming, in my opinion, is terrrible. I haerd a live version of 187 and about wanted to kill myself, it was THAT bad.
POSTED: 07/16/2004 - 11:55 am / quote |
IadultswimI :
i swear i seen this before...
and dani filth can scream- cradle of filth

POSTED: 07/20/2004 - 06:11 pm / quote |
SURFraptor7 :
Screaming is like an art. There is perfect times to do it and such. Bands like you claim as talented who scream the whole time are not. Screaming is meant to express an emotion. You do it at climaxs of songs to show you are really stressing what you're saying at that moment. To do it all the time. There is no emotion. It's just overkill on a scream to try to sound "cool."



The bands that I listed arent talented because they scream. They're talented because their music is awesome (at least its a lot better than The Used or Finch). I listed those bands because this is an article about screaming and their singers are the best screamers I have heard... and screaming is not an art, its a scream, you just do it. I screamed when some dude kicked me in the balls, but that wasnt an art... but I see where you're coming from anyway

POSTED: 07/21/2004 - 12:31 pm / quote |
guitardude98 :
do you have to grab your balls....is that really necessary? what if your a girl..do you have to have a sex change to scream?
POSTED: 07/21/2004 - 06:46 pm / quote |
smilifile :
gr8 article, just shows there is no easy way to scream other than to just go 4 it
POSTED: 07/23/2004 - 09:51 am / quote |
dai the flu :
Bad article.

"In order to scream, you have to scream."

POSTED: 07/24/2004 - 05:55 pm / quote |
TOMWAITSRULES :
why the *** would you want to ruin your voice and make your music sound like shit by screaming. real singing is so much better sounding. think of what pink floyd would have been if roger and david had just sat there screaming their ***in lungs out during songs like "The Final Cut" or "Dogs"
POSTED: 07/25/2004 - 12:24 am / quote |
oniro_mvolta* :
Yeah, look mum and all ya bogens, im on the net
POSTED: 07/27/2004 - 03:12 am / quote |
xxgenocide98xx :
If you like screaming , why is noone mentioning heavy metal? Something like... Arch Enemy or At the Gates.. those singers have awesome screams... Corey Taylor from Slipknot has an incredible scream.

TOMWAITSRULES:
You have to scream at the right time. I don't think you could pull that out of your ass during 'dogs'

and I know a guy whos cousin is in underoath. lol.

POSTED: 07/29/2004 - 06:23 pm / quote |
IwillDIEat25 :
Not crazy about the article, but chokeme is a class act compared to other people on this site. It's great to see someone respect opinions than always feel the need to respond to flaming. That's the internet for you...
POSTED: 08/02/2004 - 12:27 am / quote |
chokeme :
I appreciate the compliment 'iwilldieat25'. Hopefully some people will stop all the stupid arguements over who's better, whats cooler,a nd just say 'ok, you like emery, i like finch, the world WILL continue. life will go on! it's ok, just because we dsagree, that doesn't mean life stpos. it'll be ok!' HOnestly peope, if you disagree with someone, you could just say like 'well, i don't really lie ____ i'm more of a ____ fan myself.' you don't have to be like 'DISTURBED RAWKZ! YOU ALL SUK! !!!!!!".
POSTED: 08/03/2004 - 02:16 am / quote |
rocket_queen888 :
ok
POSTED: 08/04/2004 - 01:59 am / quote |
pnkrckgtrist :
I get the idea of what he's saying, it's the same thing I did. but putting it in words can seem pretty pointless while looking at it. the point is the opening to screaming generally happens when your under pressure. in front of other people, whether it's your band or a few friends or whatever. not when your alone. I don't know why. good article. and steven tyler has quite a different scream than what this guy is talking about. steven tyler has a godly scream in which I have found no man able to cover yet. too bad they resorted to pop...but hey, it's still fun remembering walk this way.
POSTED: 08/07/2004 - 03:05 pm / quote |
PAsistem :
but how the hell does chester bennington from linkin park scream?
POSTED: 09/03/2004 - 03:25 am / quote |
ianian :
best screamer is george from Alexisonfire.
POSTED: 09/11/2004 - 01:07 pm / quote |
StratRat9 :
lol you people are trying to learn the technique of purposefully making your voice sound bad... pretty ironic
POSTED: 09/12/2004 - 06:20 pm / quote |
somewhat_here :
someone should do an aritcle on how to scream or sing, i guess, like robert plant. like on the immigrant song. that would be interesting
POSTED: 09/13/2004 - 07:05 pm / quote |
somewhat_here :
aaa..hhhaaa..hhh..aaa..hhh..aaa..!!!!
POSTED: 09/13/2004 - 07:11 pm / quote |
eurotrash :
Hey man I really liked the article, it was kinda informing really, cleared a few things up for me... I haven't tried out the technique yet as I just read this thing though...
Oh and yeah man, it's weird that you should mention Emery, my friend just got their album last week, and he nor I had ever heard of the band before, but yeah... Man some good screams and pretty vocals and some interesting ideas, but not a lot of stuff that really really stands out... But yeah an incredible debut album, that's for sure.
Yeah I have a feeling the screaming is gonna be too much in some time, everyone's gonna do it and the novelty'll fade, it's a shame... Screams should be used moderately...
I know everyone on these internet forums love Linkin Park, but I think Chester is one of the best vocalists in the biz... I was a pretty big fan of the band before I heard them live, but when I heard Chester's live performance he just knocked my socks of man... You can hear some of it on Live in Texas as well, how well he places his screams, like in papercut... It's like a face that I hold inSIIIDE face that awakes when I close my EEEYES face that watches everytime they LIE... He goes really low with the lie there, it's just great stuff... Uhm... I dunno how this is relevant... Kthx. :/

POSTED: 09/13/2004 - 09:04 pm / quote |
stormchaser :
The screaming vocal style is veryunderrated. I'm getting better at it, now I can sing along to Killswitch engage.
POSTED: 09/17/2004 - 03:26 pm / quote |
stormchaser :
Origiannly posted by StratRat9:
lol you people are trying to learn the technique of purposefully making your voice sound bad... pretty ironic

It's a style. did you ever listen to the cranberries? pur instinct is to think it's a bad vocal styele, but as I said, it's underrated.

POSTED: 09/17/2004 - 03:29 pm / quote |
Mokumo :
well im a fan of linkin park, and if you listen to him closely when he screams - especially live, i went to a linkin park concert (it was f*ckin awsome)- chesters voice splits in half, you can hear a low and high of his voice. its on of the weirdest things, i believe he admitted it too.

=)

POSTED: 09/20/2004 - 04:07 pm / quote |
rockpunkzer0 :
best screamer- guy from blindside
POSTED: 09/21/2004 - 07:07 pm / quote |
ANGUS/JIMI_ROCK :
I'm dead serious about this, but if u scream way too much u risk the chance of eath. U know when u scream and your throat burns? Thats your stomach acid and that can burn through your throat. It happened to the original singer of Drowning pools
POSTED: 09/22/2004 - 09:29 pm / quote |
ANGUS/JIMI_ROCK :
*death
POSTED: 09/22/2004 - 09:33 pm / quote |
NeverKnowing :
maybe his voice 'splits in half' because theres a recording underneath? :P jst messing, i like LP. and on papercut on LIT 'lie' isn't low at all. well its low for him. but that because he's an alto or something. if you can sing bass you can sing much lower than that.
POSTED: 10/03/2004 - 03:27 pm / quote |
Arucard :
i hate those bands. its death and black metal vocalists i envy.

like mikael from opeth

POSTED: 10/06/2004 - 08:04 am / quote |
DaddyTwoFoot :
Maynard James Keenan from Tool/A Perfect Circle is an amazing screamer, no doubt about that. Two singers that I'm surprised haven't been mentioned yet are Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson. Trent Reznor is a just plain better singer than most of the guys out there these days, and his screams carry his anger like nothing else can. Go back and listen to Head Like a Hole for a while. Then you have Marilyn Manson, who sounds like an evil imp that was drawn brought out from hell. Then, one more to add would Be Kurt Cobain. Though his voice had a tendency to break while singing, he had possibly the most angry and confused screams ever to bless rock music. 'Nuff said.
POSTED: 10/12/2004 - 07:14 pm / quote |
stormchaser :
Kickass article.
POSTED: 10/16/2004 - 02:58 pm / quote |
DaddyTwoFoot :
The way death metal vocalists go so low is that they put their mouths right up to the microphone and cup their hands around it so no sound can escape. That also gives it the muffled sound. Pretty simple actually.
POSTED: 10/17/2004 - 05:00 pm / quote |
Slasher_Sloth :
haha Alexisonfire has a pretty good screamer (god i tried screaming like him but it hurts!) same with Children of Bodom, Cradle of Filth, Demon Hunter (for a lower scream) etc. Yes it takes just as much effort, talent, skill, and work to scream as it is to sing (for all you screaming haters). Plus you shouldnt really let it all go, that can hurt your voice, just put 70% into it so you can still scream but not kill yourself in the process.
POSTED: 10/20/2004 - 11:10 pm / quote |
americarules3 :
someone make an article on how to growl
POSTED: 10/29/2004 - 02:01 pm / quote |
Sympathy :
Noone needs an article - just take a cough drop and you can growl/scream for hours.
POSTED: 11/04/2004 - 10:50 pm / quote |
will65610 :
Y'all want to know how to SCREAM, here it is. But first, you should realize screaming is the vocal equivalent of an Olympic decathlon. It's not easy to learn. Does anyone really think the high-school bully stands a chance in a professional boxing ring?
Most of you sound young, and few seem to be singing-scraming regularly. If all your doing is scraming along to a CD once or twice a week, that's nothing special. But if you try to go for broke night after night for 18 months straight, your voice WILL give out and you may never scream again. If you just want to do hard-core style screaming all the time, this may not be an issue. Just cancel gigs when you have to, and forget about ever doing any other style with your voice. But if you want to pull off the stuff like Chester Bennington, Rob Halford, David Draimon, or Killswitch Engage, you'll have to practivce and give it some time.
First, learn to sing normally WITHOUT a raised larynx. Reserve raising your larynx only for sounds you absolutely cannot make otherwise, and try not to let it raise into your mouth. Now, constrict the muscles around your Adam's Apple (like your gagging)--Feel it? Don't do that again. Constricting that deeply will screw your throat. Instead, try making a bluesy gravel sound at low volume constricting your throat higher and higher as you get more adept. The goal is to get the throat tension as far away as possible from the vocal chords. Finally, the tension should feel fairly high (but without raising your larynx), almost in the uvula (like your speaking German). Now, just practice getting louder and louder with that kind of throat tension, ALWAYS making sure your free from pain. It's an exercise, you'll have to build up the muscles. This will take time, but it's worth it. If you think this advise is too wimpy, oh well--listen to those who scream, not even Dez of Devil Driver sounds "gurgly", it's a very dry kind of friction you're after. Also, NEVER scream using the same body movement you do to clear your throat. If you listen to Killswitch Engage or Chester Bennington doing a serious scream, there's actually very little voice involved--almost just a white noise. This is because these guys have it down where they can produce that slightly-deeper-than-uvula throat tension WITHOUT even involving their vocal chords, thus zero vocal damage. Properly, they are using the ventricular folds to make the sound. It's sort of like yelling out a raspy "hhh". You can learn this by practicing what i wrote above while gradually letting the voice get breathier and breathier (i.e., more relaxed) while keeping the throat tension.

POSTED: 11/16/2004 - 11:28 pm / quote |
tremonti_#1 :
Will's idea sounds a lot better, except i'm not a doctor and have no idea about the throat stuff. But i figure u try and read the atricles at the same time and good shit will occur.
POSTED: 11/23/2004 - 03:50 pm / quote |
omertoscar :
Does this works in screaming like a static lullaby's vocal or like emery or alexis on fire?
POSTED: 07/03/2005 - 06:17 pm / quote |
EddieWan :
I used to go for the "just let it out for best sound" approach. I was told I sounded pretty rad, and for a few weeks I was getting daily requests for screaming various songs from people who had heard me. But I got tired of the daily blow-outs. By the end of the day, my scream would sound like a train trying to stop. I got tired of not being able to actually sing a note after all of that.

Screaming is fun, but it ruins the rest of your voice so that you can't actually do anything BUT scream. Sure, if you don't do it much, a full-blown scream isn't going to hurt you. But if you want to make a career in it, prepare to lose your abilities further down the road. The fun is only going to last a little while. Any big artist who ever screams goes through vocal problems no matter what they to do prevent it. Even if they deny it, saying it doesn't hurt them, it does. Look at some of the best screamers: Chester Bennington - Problems with voice, you can hear it in his live performances. Chino Moreno - bruised vocal cords, can't even sing the high parts to his own songs anymore live. Slipknot singer dude...commented himself that he had nearly lost his ability to sing because of the band.

So my advice to whoever is reading this is: find a technique that doesn't ruin your singing voice. Experiment with it...don't think that total vocal blowout after a show is just an unavoidable side-effect to screaming. Constant screaming or rough singing that irritates your vocal cords will cause them to be protected by "nodes" which, though they protect the cords, do not vibrate well because they aren't elastic. Therefore, constant damage will cause your body to protect itself from further damage by causing your cords to lose their ability to further scream/sing. I was never one to sing with a rough quality, so I've always wanted to preserve my "clean" sound after an "overdrive". I've found a higher-pitch back-of-throat scream that works very well for me. It allows me to perform Hexagram by Deftones 3 and 4 times in a row and I can still sing high notes in other songs. I can also perform the high-pitched scream at the end of Bloody Cape by Deftones (God Help Me x12). It uses less air so you can do it longer. Bodies by Drowning Pool, anyone?

2nd part of advice to success at screaming without much damage is this: stop smoking, stop drinking, stop eating junk food. Stop smoking and it will give your lungs extra capacity to let out your technique. Alcohol robs your body of water, and your vocal cords constantly need lubrication to vibrate properly. Drink tons of room-temperature water. Drinking hot or cold water will make your throat hot or cold, therefore making your vocal cords swell up or lose proper blood flow. Vocalize/warmup every time you're going to sing/scream. And practice your technique before you record your songs, or you'll be locked into a bad habit when you tour.

Sorry for the long post, I just saw lots of potential vocal injury in this thread.

POSTED: 03/20/2006 - 12:14 pm / quote |
ka0tix :
Screaming is like an art. There is perfect times to do it and such. Bands like you claim as talented who scream the whole time are not. Screaming is meant to express an emotion. You do it at climaxs of songs to show you are really stressing what you're saying at that moment. To do it all the time. There is no emotion. It's just overkill on a scream to try to sound "cool."


It's easy to climax a song even when you scream the whole way through. Listen to Atreyu's Lip Gloss and Black or A Vampire's Lament. In LGAB, it comes with a guitar solo. In A Vampire's Lament, it comes through NORMAL VOCALS. Screaming is another form of expression, and a band should not be judged by whether or not they scream all the time. If they scream all the time, but they can make a good climax, that makes them a good band. But to say that a band sucks just because they scream all the time is unfair to the band. Let's say I play guitar, and someone else plays bass. Does that mean that the person who plays bass is wrong and isn't a musician? I think not. So, please, before you start saying things about how bands that scream all the time can't do emotion or make a climax in a song or insult screaming in any way, at least try to look at it from the point of view that the people who do like it look from.

POSTED: 04/30/2006 - 07:13 pm / quote |
ken20008 :
Breaking Benjamin is a good example of emtional screaming that doesnt really harm your voice if u know how to do it. Yeah and i agree most vocalists that scream settle for a more melodic in their later career, like Corey Taylor of Slipknot, Chester from Linkin Park (just hear their new sound), Matt Shadows from A7X (more focused on melody now). Screaming harms yr throat no matter what, its only a matter of time now or later. I personally prefer to use it to emphazise certain lines and words, its better.
POSTED: 06/14/2007 - 12:05 am / quote |
ken20008 :
Tool/A Perfect Circle are good options to listen to for harsh singing. Breaking Benjamin too. LP in the old days. Opeth and Symphony X do pretty well, but they are growls which are more controllable.
POSTED: 06/14/2007 - 12:09 am / quote |
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