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The True Teacher

author: Jamie_Andreas date: 12/09/2006 category: general music
rating: 7.9 / votes: 33 
POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 06:38 am
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Inf1n1tY. :
i can just agree with you.

but this time I learned nothing^^

POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 07:25 am / quote |
Muppet :
^^I double that.
POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 08:29 am / quote |
captain_bunker :
its alot of words describing something simple.
you really didnt need to write that much about it the subject isnt that broad when your explaining only one way.
thats alot of opinion too its not really factual

POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 11:32 am / quote |
psycho78 :
for some reason, whenever i got to the bolded words & terms, i pictured dr. evil doing the quote thing with his hands.


POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 02:31 pm / quote |
cokeisbetter :
^Haha, I tried that. I laughed my head off. And yes, this was a load of crap that could have easily been condensed into one or two paragraphs.
POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 04:45 pm / quote |
Venetti :
She talks the platinum truth. 10/10.
POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 07:20 pm / quote |
Glen'sHeroicAct :
wow, im glad im probably not going to be a teacher so i won't have to read that. actually i probly will become a teacher. but i still won't read that.
POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 09:31 pm / quote |
merrill_howard :
wow..this is amazing...ive been waiting for someone to do this...im in high school...and my music teacher is pathetic...he is the exact opposite of a TRUE TEACHER...he tries to get around things so much...i take bass lessons and have been for 2 years...and my bass teacher is an amazing teacher...although i havent been the best student...but im being more honest with him now...cuz i wasnt so much for a long time...i really didnt enjoy theory and the like....i dunno...ive changed...im really into it now...i like pushing myself...although i have so much work to do...so much to do..so little time...anyways...i really like this article...congrats on writing it...almost everyone else was rude about it...but i think it was amazing...10 out of 10
POSTED: 12/10/2006 - 01:04 am / quote |
cerveza :
psycho78 wrote:

for some reason, whenever i got to the bolded words & terms, i pictured dr. evil doing the quote thing with his hands.



**** dude that's wierd, so did i
cheers

POSTED: 12/10/2006 - 01:48 am / quote |
rifftnstrings :
Thanks for that, dude. I think there was some truth in the things you talked about, however, I'm a human being, so therefore I cannot Understand. But anyways, if more teachers adhered to this basic goal/belief, we as students would generally be far better off.
POSTED: 12/10/2006 - 03:20 am / quote |
 
 m 
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CHecked.
POSTED: 12/10/2006 - 03:46 am / quote |
Xeus :
Really interesting!
POSTED: 12/10/2006 - 10:36 am / quote |
_angry_again :
I think all the negative comments about this might reflect 'those' students that will never really 'get it'. EXCEPT the one that said: "you wrote all of that to explain your retarded"--> I laughed my head off about that one. but seriously, the only reason the author turned something that could be said in ten words into like fifteen paragraphs is to convey its importance. maybe a little drawn out, but still 10/10.
this article is right on the money.

POSTED: 12/10/2006 - 06:25 pm / quote |
SethMegadefan :
powerpiker wrote:

you wrote all of that to explain your retarded

Why has this post not been deleted yet?
By the way, great article. Though I'm just a student myself, you did a great job of explaining the job of the teacher. I didn't think you over-explained, it was well-paced, and overall a pretty solid article. 10/10, because the idea of it coupled with how you wrote it is phenomenal.

POSTED: 12/11/2006 - 06:40 pm / quote |
HellBent1337 :
Another article of yours that I don't like.... However I respect that you're doing a lot of work (that's a longass article) for charity.
POSTED: 12/12/2006 - 01:20 am / quote |
Orneblad :
great!
POSTED: 12/12/2006 - 09:44 am / quote |
Scourge441 :
This deserves more than a 6.9. I give it a 10.
POSTED: 12/12/2006 - 03:46 pm / quote |
z4twenny :
i'd give it a 10 too, i've been playing for 12 years and consider myself pretty freakin' good (i never fail to draw a crowd), but i'll be taking lessons in the next week or so and now have a good idea as to what to look for in the teacher which is great
POSTED: 12/12/2006 - 07:58 pm / quote |
JD Red LP :
i really liked this article, I can descirbe my first teacher as a "lazy teacher", my second one (myself) as an 'ignorant teacher", and my thrid one as an almost perfect teacher.
POSTED: 12/13/2006 - 12:57 am / quote |
wanna_lick_me? :
I'll be forever grateful i had a good teacher to get me started. too bad i wadnt such a good student... ****. joe kiernan, where art thou?
POSTED: 12/13/2006 - 06:32 pm / quote |
Angelus Mortem :
My first teacher was a stack of KISS records :P

I liked this article a lot since i have tried to teach several new players, most of them not really getting the results i had hoped for, and one that exceeded my expectations.

I think i learned ( at least a little ) from my failed attempts.

I really don't understand how UG ended up with all these "Attitude Trolls" that have to post something negative about every column a user writes, but hey, if the trolls could do better, i guess thye wouldn't be trolling would they?

POSTED: 12/13/2006 - 08:06 pm / quote |
guitarfreak123 :
I really liked it and i agree with many things that u talked aout. I'd give you 10 stars for it but it made one of my eyes bleed so i'll give u 9/10.
POSTED: 12/14/2006 - 07:11 am / quote |
niuguitarman :
powerpiker wrote:

you wrote all of that to explain your retarded


i just want to say well done and i agree... however... yeah, it was a little long. but, great anyway. oh, and i think the supposed non-retard would be able to use the correct spelling of "you're" when it is needed. this person is obviously an arrogant prick with poor grammer who can't teach. kudos.

POSTED: 12/14/2006 - 07:12 am / quote |
Roybordom :
dude, you sounded like you were out of one of those old japanese movies like "believe in your inner peace" and all that stuff, bottom line though, you made a good point
POSTED: 12/14/2006 - 11:21 pm / quote |
Lord_Xian :
Well, all your students are going to sound like less good versions of you. Teachers are for fools, the best guitarists sat down on their own for ours and worked out their fretboard. Herman Li is completely self taught, go tell him he has picked up 'bad habits'
POSTED: 12/15/2006 - 06:52 pm / quote |
bluesblaster :
Lord_Xian wrote:

Well, all your students are going to sound like less good versions of you. Teachers are for fools, the best guitarists sat down on their own for ours and worked out their fretboard. Herman Li is completely self taught, go tell him he has picked up 'bad habits'


buddy, bad habits get picked up by everyone who is self taught, they just iron them out later i.e. go ask Herman Li if he has ever had RMS (repetitive movement syndrome) or, in your terms, carpal tunnel, that is caused by bad habits

POSTED: 12/16/2006 - 07:51 pm / quote |
bass_gtarace :
powerpiker wrote:

you wrote all of that to explain your retarded


What a dick! Get a life and write your own damn article!

POSTED: 12/17/2006 - 09:58 am / quote |
epiphone_sg :
every1 has taken classes specially if ure in a band u learn how to syncronize with ur band mates or ur rhythm/lead guitarist u learn new shit all the time even when ure like in skool or listening to music or wutever u get something new u get more skill u butholes tht wus an awesome article and u say its long n uve been all prolly been wating like a ear waiting for nolan whyte to write a new chapter of in the road on comeback (includes me) also my teacher is true teacher since ive never picked up any bad habit like most ppl dont' do alternate picking or wutevver im proud of him now lol
POSTED: 12/17/2006 - 11:31 pm / quote |
tHewHiteHendrix :
i am a true teacher.
POSTED: 12/18/2006 - 02:45 pm / quote |
RevolverX :
I'm self-taught, and I've gone through HUNDREDS of bad habits - ie. anchoring my pinky on the pickguard, picking from the arm instead of the wrist, resting my hand lightly on the bridge/strings. Having a teacher, I could have avoided almost all of them and saved a ton of time and grief.

But, I'm the first to say, if it works, do it. Some bad habits cater to certain styles, especially metal - and it's all gravy until you try mixing it up. I remember how long it took for me to master the blues shuffle in SRV's "Pride and Joy" because I rested my hand on the guitar to help palm mute a ton of pedal notes.

I'd say, then, that bad habits can work, but they'll make the learning process harder, and potentially hazardous to your ... uhm. "hand-health". But, look at Michael Angelo Batio. The guy's technique is god AWFUL, but he's still a formidable player. Just an opinion, of course ...

POSTED: 12/19/2006 - 12:00 am / quote |
 
 m 
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Checked...Quebec Style
POSTED: 12/20/2006 - 07:59 pm / quote |
hardcoreatheist :
excellent 10/10. Beautifully written, people who say it's too long must have short attention spans or something.
POSTED: 12/22/2006 - 06:13 pm / quote |
pitbull510 :
didnt they teach you in school to make articles interesting. Seriously though, I was bored outta my mind, like two paragraphs into it. Lame. I'll bet its a good article, and I agree with you, but spice it up, plz!
POSTED: 12/26/2006 - 06:53 pm / quote |
Renfordoggz :
this is a good article better than the guy who wrote that stupid metal review of 2006. That was just a bunch of what can only be described as crap written by a ego-filled dude. But at least he's a mucsian and so is this guy he's got better articles on other guitar websites and they help like hell.....
POSTED: 12/30/2006 - 10:47 am / quote |
metallicat420 :
psycho78 wrote:

for some reason, whenever i got to the bolded words & terms, i pictured dr. evil doing the quote thing with his hands.


same here :S

it was a good read though

POSTED: 12/31/2006 - 03:53 am / quote |
lady_brandy_198 :
Excellent Article 10/10
All of those with the negative comments obviously are pretty immature and don't understand why the article was written in such a way. Too bad for those guys!

POSTED: 01/04/2007 - 03:46 pm / quote |
God of All :
I enjoyed the majority of this column because I myself am a guitar teacher. The introductory paragraph was a little weak,
I am now going to write about something for which I feel the utmost passion. If I could only get across one message, and for some reason wasn’t allowed to say anything else, this is what I would want to say. I want to tell you...

One should not start any piece of writing with "I am now going to write about..." because it just makes for a lame first sentence. Also, the repetitiveness of "I want to say..." and "I will tell you..." is a little bit tedious. But other than that, I found this to be a pretty good column and I will be sure to recommend it to some of my co-workers to read!


Keep on rockin' in the moderately free world! \m/

POSTED: 01/07/2007 - 03:06 pm / quote |
Chiefwiddler :
I think this was written BY a teacher FOR teachers. I found it pointless. You should know if your teacher is any good...its quite obvious...a basic grasp of mood, the english language, and a brain cell is more than adequate!
POSTED: 01/09/2007 - 12:11 pm / quote |
Skyboy4788 :
Lord_Xian wrote:

Well, all your students are going to sound like less good versions of you. Teachers are for fools, the best guitarists sat down on their own for ours and worked out their fretboard. Herman Li is completely self taught, go tell him he has picked up 'bad habits'


True, there are countless of the top guitarists in the field who are self taught, but to be that good, one will learn the good habits that are described in this essay later on in their guitar ventures.. Techniques are consistent whether they are teacher-taught or self-learned. I don't see anything wrong with a teacher starting a student off on the right foot and teaching students the basics of the instrument. I know I am reiterating this, but it is an important point.

POSTED: 01/12/2007 - 03:43 am / quote |
neoamir :
Lord_Xian wrote:

Well, all your students are going to sound like less good versions of you. Teachers are for fools, the best guitarists sat down on their own for ours and worked out their fretboard. Herman Li is completely self taught, go tell him he has picked up 'bad habits'


well, i gotta tell, you , that i self taught myself for over a year, so i know chords almost perfect, but i hardly know Scales, and Notes.

POSTED: 04/26/2007 - 02:50 pm / quote |
BigBall :
This is a truly a great article, i can recognize my own experinces, both as student and teacher.
POSTED: 05/11/2007 - 07:26 am / quote |
howfreeisthis :
DIE!
POSTED: 05/28/2007 - 07:58 pm / quote |
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