Nu Metal Standing In The Way For Modern Rock

Just about every fan of the almighty Metal knows the different genres. You have your Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax in the Trash department, Cannibal Corpse, Vader, and Napalm Death in the grinding Death Metal section, and you can't forget the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, paying homage to bands like Iron Maiden and the almighty Judas Priest. Even though there are far more branches of metal, the particularly domminant form of metal amongst the mainstream music scene is Nu-Metal.

For those of you that dont know of this style of music, I'm here to help you. Nu-Metal is a brand of music that blends melodic metal with hip-hop. This style of metal tends to follow a simple song structure of intro - verse - chorus - verse - chorus - bridge - chorus - outro (sometimes there are a few variations, but usually thats what it boils down to). Some of the bands that would fall under the Nu-Metal catagory would be Linkin Park, Orgy, Papa Roach, and the disputed founders of the movement, Korn (this could be disputed, but i'm just using what many say). Nu-Metal is adored by many young music fans looking for a style of music performed by people they can look up to, presumably people that were once tormented at school but pulled their shit together and made it big. Even though im sure that lots of moms would not approve what goes on back stage at shows, most Nu-Metal musicians write their songs about feeling pain, loneliness, and fear, which most of the young fans can relate to. Nu-Metal is adored by many, but yet, it is laughed at and dismissed by the Metal community. Many belive that this music is just Hard rock, but what ever it is, it has spawned many sub-genres of it's own.

Modern Rock is one of the biggest sub-genres of Nu-Metal. Modern Rock is a mix of Metal, Alternative, and Grunge. The songs tend to be alot like Nu-Metal songs, but more melodic and serious, rather than the average "cookie cutter" Nu-Metal song. Primarily, the biggest difference amongst Modern Rock bands are thier heaviness. Some of the softer Modern Rock bands are The Goo Goo Dolls or Coldplay (yeah...not one of my favorites either). Some of the mid ranged Mordern Rock bands are Hoobastank, Puddle Of Mudd, Incubus, and The Exies. Finally, the heaviest of the Modern Rock bands are Trapt and Breaking Benjamin. Most Modern Rock tends to follow the same song sturcture, but using different styles of riffing, making it sound a bit more complex.

My main purpose for writing this article is this: Why is it that Modern Rock has to live in the shadows of Nu-Metal? Lets take a bigger look.

When people think of Trapt, they usually get the song "Headstrong" stuck in their head for a few days. But no matter how oddly catchy the song is, "Headstrong" got them a few Grammys. So why am I using this in my argument? I know for a fact that Trapt had to work super hard to get where they are today. They had to release a few of their albums independently, due to being constantly shut down by major labels. Now I know that some Nu-Metal bands like Papa Roach released four independent albums before hitting it onto the charts with "Infest", but once bands like Papa Roach hit the scene, many other Nu-Metal one hit wonders were poping up like weeds. Breaking Benjamin vocalist/rythm guitarist Ben Burnley had to sing Nirvana covers in a small coffe shop in his home town of crowds ranging from few to none (even if there were people, he said that rarely anyone listened to him) just to survive. Just about two years before they released their first album "Saturate", they were playing club shows to crowds of around 100 people. Now, the same clubs that they could barely fill are being sold out every time they play there. But rarely do Breaking Benjamin headline and sell out a venue that Linkin Park could with ease.

Linkin Park exploded onto the scene with the song "One Step Closer" (personally, that song was pretty cool) around 2000 (sorry if i'm wrong). Breaking Benjamin came onto the scene in 2002 with the song "Polyamorous". Now if I were to ask someone if they remember "One Step Closer", the guess is that they'd probably say yes. If I were to ask someone if the remember "Polyamorous", i'm almost possitive that they'd say no. I bet if I asked them who Breaking Benjamin was, they wouldnt have a clue. Now, i'll give it to Linkin Park that two years can give you some record sales, but when it comes to the complexity of the riffing, Breaking Benjamin takes the cake. I've asked people about Breaking Benjamin, and the first thing they say is "they're not heavy enough". Sure, the song rarely blasts an open c# (thats what the song is tuned to), but if you sit down and listen to some of the heavier parts, it's just a tad more than Linkin Park has ever done on guitar (Brad Delson is a good guitarist, but he doesnt do a whole in Linkin Park's riffs to prove it).

To anyone that is reading this. If you are in a band that is on the verge of going big, on the way, or just starting, dont take anything for granted. I just talked to a friend of mine the other day. This friend is in a band from where I live, who are slowly but surely developing a fan base. I asked him what his top three musical dreams were. He told me that his top three were:

01. To get signed
02. To go Gold or higher
03. To play the Forum, the Wachovia Center, of the LA Colliseum

I thought about this for a day and gave him my top three the naxt day. My top three were:

01. To get signed
02. To go Gold or higher
03. To play for whatever audience I have

The reason for number three is simply that I dont need to be play a huge venue to know that i've made it. In fact, i'd rather play to a club of 400 people, who I know have came to see my band and are such true fans that they would go to some extremely packed, hot, sweaty club, as opposed to a huge venue, where a big portion of the fans are there for the other bands, are there with their boyfriend of girlfriend, or maybe they're just a fan's friend that had nothing better to do.

So maybe Modern Rock doesnt get the attention that it deserves. But in my opinion, the musicians that make modern rock happen probably have a better outlook of things than anyone else.

Comments

[blueeleguitar]

You have your Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax in the Trash department

Trash? lol.

[Maet]

... what? This article was stumbling all over itself in terms of content, structure and ideas. 2 stars.

[dmitri]

it started off as very well written article, but i think you have lost yourself at the end or ran out of time.

[guitar_god92]

he meant "thrash" not "trash"

[tallica1708]

since when can u consider metallica trash. They rock 1 star for sayin they suck

[tallica1708]

jus kidding, i know what you meant but makin a mistake like that will make alot of people who dont read the comments give you a bad rating. Not a bad article. Just watch out on the costly spelling mistakes

[Needled_24/7]

dmitri:
it started off as very well written article, but i think you have lost yourself at the end or ran out of time.

agreed. the article was started off well, but then rushed to finish itself. didnt feel finished or conluded to me. and to answer your question:

Why is it that Modern Rock has to live in the shadows of Nu-Metal?

because for posers who want to be metal, nu-metal is as heavy as their precious ears can take them. alot of people only listen to nu-metal because they think its real metal, and its not. i dont even know how they could put the word 'metal' in that genre. people just think its metal, so they listen to it and advertise themselves as being true metal fans. yet theyre not fooling the real true metal fans.

and theres your answer. because modern rock isnt 'heavy' enough to be a metal poser. you need nu-metal to do so.

[Voodoo8868]

yeah.....2 stars

[Mispeled]

What about groups like Mudvayne and System of a Down?

[broken_bottles]

It was rambling and just plain wrong...since when was modern rock a nu metal subgenre, it's the other was round.

[broken_bottles]

*way round even

[Metallica420]

1stly - Wow man i found out WHAT Nu-Metal is and that I hate it in one article man.2ndly - Fuck i hate all these new ***in words for music man here are my genres man Metal Includes bands such as Metallica, System of a Down(so many ppl are gonna dissagree wit me on that one man), Slipknot, Slayer,Dream theater and Testament Rock & Roll Includes bands such as Blind Melon, Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC (pretty much classic rock) Alternative Includes bands such as Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Puddle of Mud and Staind Abstract Muse and Liquid Tesnion Experement there we go that's it man and that's all there should be man none of the Nu-Metal,Thrash and Death Metal BS.
Peace

[Metallica420]

Hey Mispeled you misspelled misspelled...lol sorry man i just wanted to say that caus eit sounded funny.

[elcapitanloco]

Misspelling "Thrash" is just about the smallest problem this article has. Were you getting high as you wrote this? Its too disorganized and becomes incoherent. The beginning of the 3rd paragraph especially confuses me:

Modern Rock is one of the biggest sub-genres of Nu-Metal. Modern Rock is a mix of Metal, Alternative, and Grunge

What??! "Modern rock" is not really a genre, it just means rock in the present day, and thus includes many genres. You're crazy if you consider putting both Coldplay and Breaking Benjamin as part of a nu-metal subgenre.

The last section seemed to be a rant about how Nu-metal is good, (thus negating the title of this article), and how to become successful with nu-metal.

[Craigo]

Well written, but you had no idea what you were on about.

[Mispeled]

Metallica420:
Hey Mispeled you misspelled misspelled...lol sorry man i just wanted to say that caus eit sounded funny.

Yes, my speling of mispeled is inkorrect.

[Metallica420]

lol good one man

[Metallica420]

oh yeah this article sucked by the way it was confusing and badly written and alot of it was misspelled and complete bull-shit.
peace

[kurt_was_killed]

i'm not big on Nu-Metal. Personally, I think it's shit. Way to close to hiphop/rap, but with distorted guitar. Linkin Park blows, Trapt is ok sometimes though..... and Hoobastank? I'm not even gonna go into THAT subject. *Shudder*

[kurt_was_killed]

oh yeah, and metallica kicks megadeaths ass.
IRON MAIDEN RULES.

[kurt_was_killed]

metallica 420, i agree. system of a down are pretty ***ing heavy, haha. BOUNCE, pogo, pogo, pogo.....

[NikkiSixx440]

I myself like the 80's hair metal. Dont jump all over me saying it sucks and everything,this is just my opinion. I think it should have never went out of style.

[s_fall20]

bad article. got off topic of why nu metal stands in the way. the good modern day music is stuff like lamb of god and then dream theater.

[Chaos Maggot]

I don't see how Slipknot is too close to rap/hi-hop, and most of you cinsider it Nu-Metal.

I for one, don't, since it sounds nothing like hip-hop, and there's almost no rapping, and the shit's ***ing heavy.

[IBrokeBenjamin]

I wrote the article....and I know I did rant twoards the end. Dont know what I was thinking, but the whole point was to point out that most modern rock bands have more talent than nu-metal bands, but yet, nu-metal bands get all the attention.

By the way, I didnt come up with the names "Modern Rock" or "Nu-Metal". It's just that all of the bands i've named have been and still are grouped into the genres i said they were. Belive me, I could give a shit about Coldplay or The Goo Goo Dolls and they could never touch Breaking Benjamin ot Trapt, but thats apparently what genre they classify them in. I wish there werent so many genres, but thats what happens after years of music.

[Purem8]

Just about every fan of the almighty Metal knows the different genres. You have your Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax in the Trash department, Cannibal Corpse, Vader, and Napalm Death in the grinding Death Metal section, and you can't forget the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, paying homage to bands like Iron Maiden and the almighty Judas Priest..

Ok... Let's stop right there. WHY DID I CONTINUE TO READ THIS ARTICLE?
It's ok to be a clueless person posting a comment.
Please don't be a clueless person starting a colmun.
#1 You didn't even follow your title in your writing.
#2 You lumped bands into groups regardless of who they
were. (good bands, sucky bands, unknown bands, wellknown
bands, rock, alternative, heavy metal, nu-metal and even
pop bands.) You wrote an entire article on "nu-metal",
but I don't think you even know what nu-metal is...
OMG OMG OMG I usually try to avoid sounding like a lame
13 year-old flamer, and use proper grammar and dignity
to get my point across, but I give up...
U Fu

[Purem8]

damn.. it didn't let me go off on my flamer speech. =)
Oh well... I'll write a mock-column.

(Don't forget to stay on topic)
"How to setup a guitar effects pedal for a concert"

Omg I hate The Used, they are such a bad band. most people would consider The Used to be a heavy metal
band such as The Temptations, Tool, Tupac or Blondie.
However, I am here to tell you that due to the chord progressions that they use, they are more of a British
Pop band. Please note that these are not my opinions, but the opinions of others (Ack.. cough.. throw-up-blood
lol?)
Yes. these are the bands that others would put in the same category, and not the doings of mine own. laalla
ok w/e you get the point...

But then you go and post a reply to your own crappy
column.. that is like taking a massive $h!+ and then
going back to check on it to see if the texture needs improvement..

-Ryan-

[gonzosrevenge55]

what the ***? umm...this "modern rock" is more closely related to the grunge/alternative scene than anything metal. you should stick to reading columns by people who actually know what they're talking about. then come back in five years and write something that isn't total shit.

[Thrashmetal92]

go suck off someone
metallica? trash? my ass

[milk_it_good]

1. Genres are a hideous part of music. If one was to exert the effort to make music as specific as possible, then almost every band in history would have it's own genre. "offshoots of modern rock" Give me a bloody break. Modern rock is such a distant branch of music now, that it's a twig. Don't bother dividing anymore.

2. Check your spelling. As you can see, it can result in insulting posts so it really is worth the time and effort. You misspelt Thrash, right? If not, destroy all your current CD's and stock up on Celine Dion and Simple Plan, because that's all you deserve.

[JHguitarman22]

yea i didnt quite understand the point of this article first you were telling me about nu-metal. thats all fine and such then you explained modern rock. thats ok i suppose but then you suddenly in the end tell me your friends goal of being signed and play the LA collisium and your own personall goals what does thta have to do with nu-metal are you a nu-metal artist or something?

[tomobrien]

u suck metallica is 1 of the greatest rock bands eva how could u say they trash go get a blow job

[Jack3n665.5]

By your definition, its metal and hip hop so Im guessing RATM is nu metal. Wow like nu metal for the first time since 7th grade and im convinced Breaking BEnjamin ripped so cold off of wasted years.

[Archaon]

Nu-metal lacks guitar and keyboard solos, therefore they suck. And most of them have crappy emo lyrics.

[istats]

So maybe Modern Rock doesnt get the attention that it deserves. But in my opinion, the musicians that make modern rock happen probably have a better outlook of things than anyone else...

[flyboy959]

metallica is country, idiot. lol

[chevsscamaro67]

i dont know what you call crossfade other than shit, but they are just horrible

[cantshreddave]

linkin park are cool cos they write a catchy sing a long chorus with some nice guitar in the back, all othe nu metal is crap

[tainted tears]

nu-metal= talentless, annoying, lame, and stupid music

[Dogwillhunt]

No, no the texture doesn't need any improvement, but I could've sworn one of them turds looked just like Klinger from M.A.S.H. Ok here's a mock article for everyone to enjoy.

"How to Choose The Right Guitar"

I will try to stay on topic as much as possible so bear with me as I don't have a fully functioning brain. My doctor told me my A.D.D. gave me an attention span of just 12 nanoseconds so...uh... where was I? Oh yes, the Fender Squier Stratocaster! What a piece of junk! I mean sure you can go spend only a couple hundred on it as opposed to buying the Santana model PRS, but wouldn't it be better if you didn't? I mean, I obviously haven't ever played a Squier Stratocaster. Does that give me the right to bash the guitar? Of course! I don't like nu-metal/punk/rap/hiphop/grindcore/polka/country/jazz/pop/blues/fusion/rockabilly because it is A. GAY, B. STUPID, C. ANNOYING, D. TALENTLESS, E. LAME, or F. ALL OF THE ABOVE because MY opinion is better than everybody else's seeing as how my turds don't stink. If you listen to Jimi Hendrix you can tell he was heavy metal everyone knows that because he played blues rock. However, I'm here to tell you that you are all wrong: Wham! is by far THE GREATEST METAL BAND IN THE HISTORY OF METAL! And if you don't believe me then that's your opinion... la la la tinky winky... hey sweet the Teletubbies are on! I gotta go... my mom's making cherry Kool-aid and Spaghettio's. So as you can see, we should all buy the most expensive guitar we can find. With Liberty and Justice For All. Amen.

--Joe--

[Dogwillhunt]

"How to Choose The Right Guitar -- Part 2"

I'm gonna try to stay on topic here, so bear with me. Metallica is a far better metal band than Megadeth because they rock and that's all there is to it. And now for the history of Metallica: Once there was this little Danish guy named Lars Ulrich. Lars was a Danish guy, so he came from Dane...land where they laugh and play under cotton candy clouds and all the children giggle with rainbow eyes and gumdrop smiles. One day, there was this other guy called Dave Mustaine who begat Moses, who lived to be over 800 years old. Moses begat Enoch, who lived to be over 720 years old. Dave Mustaine lived to be like... where was I? Oh, yes... anyways I've never played any of these guitars, nor have I done any research on them, but here goes:

1. PRS - This is the brand of guitar you should get.
2. Gibson - These are ok, but I would refer to number one.
3. Les Paul - Not sure who makes these, but they're ok. I'd still refer to number one.
4. G & L - These guitars are weird! I don't know who makes these guitars, but they're ok. Refer to number one.
5. Fender - This is like the only brand name of guitar that I've used cuz my daddy bought it for me when I was 8 years old. It's ok, but I'd still refer to number one.
6. Line 6 Variax - My daddy just bought me one of these for my 10th birthday. It's kinda crappy and I'd definitely refer back to number one.
7. Fender Squier - THESE GUITARS SUCK THEY SUCK THEY SUCK! They are inexpensive and sound and play like the more expensive versions, but they SUCK! And I'm basing this on absolutely nothing. Stay tuned for part 3! Emo sucks.

-- Joe --

[Dogwillhunt]

Not right now mom! I'm busy! I will, just let me write my article...

"How to Lose The Right Guitar in Ten Days - Part 4"

I will try to stay on topic here, so deal with it.
Here are other guitars you should avoid (Remember always refer back to the number one in part 2)

1. Fender Squier - These guitars are horrible even if you're just starting out. If you're a beginner, unlike me, then you will probably want your daddy to buy you a PRS with 24 frets and a dragon inlay on the neck. Don't get a good sounding guitar that's inexpensive as well.
2. ESP - Well it's obvious these are junk cuz a lot of nu-metal bands use these and nu-metal as we are all aware sucks! WHAT MOM?! IN A MINUTE! GIMME A FREAKIN' BREAK!...

17. Ibanez - Mexican people don't know how to build guitars so these are out. (Subsequently so are Alverez's)

Eleventeen. Dean - Horrible guitar, good sausage.... if you add a Jimmy before the Dean.
23. Yamaha - Yeah, like I'm gonna buy a guitar manufactured by people that make motorcycles. Whatever!
WHAT!? COULD YOU GIVE ME JUST ONE HOT MINUTE, MOM?!
61. Squier - The worst guitar of all time, in my opinion.
94. Anything that isn't a PRS - Let's face it PRS is the best. You should save all your allowance for like eleventeen years until you have enough to buy one and then buy a Volvo instead cuz by that time you'll be more interested in picking up chicks once you're old enough to drive. All in all, I think nu-metal is like the worst gender of all the classical music genders of all time. Like pretty much any music with guitar in it sucks because Wham! is the coolest. OK MOM I'M COMING!!! GEEZ!

-- Joe --

[smb]

What a complete load of bullshit.

Modern rock is a type of nu-metal? Stfu.

[2lazy2getbetter]

lol your gay. linkin park has nothing to do with nu-metal. i dont even really like them but to compare them to such trash as nu-metal is insulting. nu-metal ia gay. also, leave iron maiden out of it. they are not nor will they ever be nu-metal and they are kickass

[2lazy2getbetter]

First off:

Omg I hate The Used, they are such a bad band. most people would consider The Used to be a heavy metal

What kind of retards are you listening too? Who consideres the used heavy metal? they are some sort of post hardcore pop. i dont even like them but thats just wrong

Nu-metal lacks guitar and keyboard solos, therefore they suck. And most of them have crappy emo lyrics.

Wow wow wow....crappy keyboard solos are everything that nu-metla is about. listen to these gay bands like ''dashboard confessional'' and ''finger eleven''. alll they give us is crappy keyboard stuff. as far as lyrics similar to emo? you are smoking crack. the nu-metal lyrics sound like a mix of flogging molly and counting crows....its all sad really...

[2lazy2getbetter]

lol your gay. linkin park has nothing to do with nu-metal. i dont even really like them but to compare them to such trash as nu-metal is insulting. nu-metal ia gay. also, leave iron maiden out of it. they are not nor will they ever be nu-metal and they are kickass

[led zeppelin90]

2lazy2getbetter
wrote:

lol your gay. linkin park has nothing to do with nu-metal. i dont even really like them but to compare them to such trash as nu-metal is insulting. nu-metal ia gay. also, leave iron maiden out of it. they are not nor will they ever be nu-metal and they are kickass

true iron maiden rocks.....

[gnr_fan_17]

Nu-metal sucks(other than Incubus since they're pretty okay), has sappy lyrics and beat, lacks solos, lacks anger. Heavy metal rules all!

[mercedesisbenz]

poorly written article.

[rockergurl09]

about metallica and stuff, I know you meant thrash, but you'd think that typo would po off the page since everyone with a true taste for metal likes metallica.Therefore, it isn't trash. I think that the genre should be renamed. How about kick-butt metal, or head-bob (that stuff can get most people automatically head-bobbing. (at least me, anyway.)

[rockergurl09]

what the heck?!?! last lime I checked, that stuff did NOT sound like any of the following:

-twangy
-f
olksy
-redneckish
-stup
id lyrics like "she thinks my tractor's sexy"
LAME!
-banjo or fiddle
-hillbilly-ish
-
way too patriotic

flyb
oy959 wrote:

metallica is country, idiot. lol

[Storrson]

lol your gay. linkin park has nothing to do with nu-metal. i dont even really like them but to compare them to such trash as nu-metal is insulting. nu-metal ia gay. also, leave iron maiden out of it. they are not nor will they ever be nu-metal and they are kickass

Are you kidding? Linkin Park is the definition of nu metal!
This article was horrible.

[#1Maiden_Fan]

ok, everyone know nu metal sucks, but so does modern heavy metal compared to old school 80s metal. face it, bands nowadays hardly have solos, they play the same chords over and over (greenday is an example of that) and they all sound the freaking same. Yes some people might say that they are better cuz they are "louder", not true, it quality not quantity. old school bands didnt have time to sound super loud, seeing as they had to concnentrate on making the actual music, most modern bands just scream in order to cover up their choppy guitar skills, which is annoying and makes me get a head ache. good old metal and hard rock bands like Kiss, metallica, megadeth, iron maiden, judas priest, acdc, pink floyd, nirvana, van halen and a lot more really rocked, they are what made rock n roll immortal, unlike those disco pricks, haha, they said disco would never die and so it did, the same thing that will happen to rap and hip hop, yes they will die with time. havent you wondered how theres a new singer every day? And most of the old rappers or old songs arent being played anymore? so anytime that anyone claims to be a true metal fan, watchout for the true old school metal fans, as they will laught at you since we have our smashing solos and kick ass songs, and we have angus young (i love that guy just had to say that) therefore all submit to the old school metal, which will never die.
\m/ //(-_-\\ \m/

by the way sorry if most of my spelling is bad, i wrote this in about 6 minutes since I was in a hurry.

[Mushok413]

Ha ok I listen to alot of staind and yes there heavier stuff im talking about even though i listen to all of it and befor your go ahead and laugh or talk shit listen to "spleen" then get back to me.
The point is this down tuning your guitar to "A flat" or "B" will always sound heavier and have great tonal qualites to me. So That is why I like "alternative, Hardrock, btw i hate breaking benjamin, Taproot, and all that other shit, Ya i like korn, ya i like staind, ya Mike Mushok is a talented guitarist ok he trained with Tony Micalpine

[rockergurl09]

"You have your Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax in the Trash department"

um, great spelling. It's thrash.

And I'm pretty sure modern rock didn't come from nu metal. It's by itself, even though it's overshadowed by nu metal. Speaking of nu metal, where's SOAD? If you must make a column about nu metal, you need to include one of the more original, skilled bands: SOAD.

Go home and do your homework, buddy.

[rockergurl09]

flyb
oy959 wrote:

metallica is country, idiot. lol

hahahahahahahahahahahahah
ahahahahahahahaha! You're joking right? I love metallica, but I hate country. How can that be possible? Because they're not the same thing!!!!!

[pagan_bloodlust]

#1maiden_fan have you ever listened to nirvana their grunge to begin with and the way kurt sings is sometimes harder to understand than a cookie monster singer like angela gossard and ummm 80's metal you forgot to mention any 80's metal bands i mean where the cliche metallica or wheres the really good 80's bands like slayer, metal church, grimm reaper, anthrax megadeth, nuclear assault or in death metal morbid angel, napalm death, the list goes on and on and on, but id have to say that new bands like children of bodom, amon amarth, wintersun(shredding with a tele wtf)and arch enemy are still unreal. mabey you should listen to them huh?????

[pagan_bloodlust]

oh and greenday metal i say to you
you are an idiot you are an idiot
you are an idiot you are an idiot
you are an idiot you are an idiot
you are an idiot you are an idiot

[Anarion614]

if nu-metal is ''hip-hop mixed with metal'' then WHY THE HELL is slipknot considered nu-metal? thats bs

[metal_militia]

Nu metal should be burned.. along with emo. Nu metal gives metal a bad reputation because:

1.There are NO guitar solos
2.They have no testicles
3.REPETITTITITITITVE!

BUt there are good bands today like Arch Enemy, Lamb of God and Children of Bodom, but notihing compares to oldschool metal

[guitarwizard_00]

All these bands suck! nu-metal sucks! "modern rock" suck! you suck! 0 stars bitch!

[|voiceout|]

,lol.Lets cool this off.How about defining what metal and rock is..then we get a better picture..Aniway lets appreciate music.Isn't it a universal language after all=)...

[pie_man_25]

|voiceout| wrote:

,lol.Lets cool this off.How about defining what metal and rock is..then we get a better picture..Aniway lets appreciate music.Isn't it a universal language after all=)...

I'll cover this guy, Rock, and metal both have the same basic origins, Blues, Original rock (such as the stray cats, and Elvis) were very blues based, but slightly more melodious, then hard rcok came around with the who and AC/DC, which was much harder, and more riff based,when Black Sabbath came along, rock and roll became more based on religion and sexuality, the minor scale, the diminished fifth, and overdriven guitars, and people just called it Heavy Metal

now, NU metal, is NOT metal, as it does not use any real scales, does not relate at all to religion OR sexuality. Listen to the lyrics, it sounds kind of emo doesn't it?
That's because it is.

[Greatalien82]

so heres the deal. I really, really, really don't like real metal. Maybe I'm just crazy. Nu-Metal I like better because its more melodic, real metal just sounds like a couple guys slamming power chords and pretending to be demons. again, maybe I'm just crazy. I know a lot of people are into that, but at the same time, Nu-Metal really makes more sense to me. Sure, sounds like little emo kids wrote the lyrics, but thats not how I define the Genre. I define it as he type of music played. as for saying whether or not a guitarist is Really good or just basic - does it matter? if it sounds good, than its good. if it sounds bad but is really hard to play, they don't get points for effort. Of course, I have been informed on such ideas that I am seen as crazy, don't try to suprise me with it if you agree.

[demonofthenight]

Lol at all the flaming
genres dont mean anything, long as its still music
as long as you wrote a song trying to enertain, or be creative or show your point of view, it probably will be an awesome song
now if you wrote your song to make a lot of money...
then you'll be a rich talentless musician, but hey, money!

[demonofthenight]

and again lol

[worst nightmare]

Why r u people so picky. every aticle i read most of the comments are saying you r wrong, this band goes in this genre blah blah blah. stick to simple genres. i like everything because of the variety. it depends how you feel that day on what i want to listen to. music is music, as long as it sounds good!

[no. 1 maggot]

Needled_24/7 wrote:

dmitri:
it started off as very well written article, but i think you have lost yourself at the end or ran out of time.



agreed. the article was started off well, but then rushed to finish itself. didnt feel finished or conluded to me. and to answer your question:

Why is it that Modern Rock has to live in the shadows of Nu-Metal?


because for posers who want to be metal, nu-metal is as heavy as their precious ears can take them. alot of people only listen to nu-metal because they think its real metal, and its not. i dont even know how they could put the word 'metal' in that genre. people just think its metal, so they listen to it and advertise themselves as being true metal fans. yet theyre not fooling the real true metal fans.

and theres your answer. because modern rock isnt 'heavy' enough to be a metal poser. you need nu-metal to do so.

Nu-metal kicks ass and who said it needs to be soft?
listen to slipknot u fecking wang. slayer is nowhere near as heavy as slipknot, and metallica neither. disappointed that the berzerker didnt get a mention in death and that slayer didnt get a mention in thrash. and then on the softer side of nu-metal you have SOAD which can still kick an ass or 500 and uses distortion to its advantage, though in moderation.

[Chufu]

Many belive that this music is just Hard rock

No. Wrong. Nobody thinks that.
I still have a hard time beliving that people actually enjoy this shit or can tell any of these bands apart by listening to them. They spend more time on the album cover than they do making music that doesn't sound like droning poop dropping out of a retarded robots butt... if robots have butts.

Anyways, I like rambling too about things that don't matter.

[RAGman22ReborN]

I'm suprised no one made a huge rant on SOAD. Then again you can't categorize them as nu metal technically speaking because Serj sings his rambling and I wouldn't call all their music melodic metal riffs given that Slayer is Daron Malakian's biggest influence. Nu Metal, when done right, like lots of different genres, can be enjoyed. That doesn't mean that all the artists of the respected genre are exactly good representations. I quote Seabrook's Nobrow to conclude, "when an artist is aware of what the people want, they cease to be artists and become dull or amusing craftsmen". Real musicians and artists make an audience experience it not giving the crowd the usual unless delivering what they want means delivering a new musical experience and adventure

[RAGman22ReborN]

and btw, dont mention thrash for one second if u forget to mention all of the big four-

Metallica
Megadeth
Anthrax
Slayer

depending on preference, the arrangement can spell MMAS (kinda like a stuttered variant of the spanish more for "more") or SLAMM.

[muxthebest1]

milk_it_good wrote:

1. Genres are a hideous part of music. If one was to exert the effort to make music as specific as possible, then almost every band in history would have it's own genre. "offshoots of modern rock" Give me a bloody break. Modern rock is such a distant branch of music now, that it's a twig. Don't bother dividing anymore.

2. Check your spelling. As you can see, it can result in insulting posts so it really is worth the time and effort. You misspelt Thrash, right? If not, destroy all your current CD's and stock up on Celine Dion and Simple Plan, because that's all you deserve.

Agreed. Genres are going to be the death of music.

[bmth13]

slipknot rules

maggots 4 life