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GGA List Of Recommended Amps

author: TheQuailman date: 05/27/2009 category: junkyard
rating: 7.9 / votes: 34 
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 08:42 am
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samlocke14 :
brilliant!
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 09:43 am / quote |
.QOTSA. :
Good article, wish there was one like this before I bought my spider. I imagine a lot of begginers will be facepalming after reading this.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 09:46 am / quote |
stephen_rettie :
real good! but no carvin V3? very well priced and a great amp now available in both america and europe.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 10:12 am / quote |
FretboardToAsh :
Cool, seems very nice and now all the different forums with those lists will finally be some use.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 10:15 am / quote |
Danno13 :
Nice, Dave!
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 10:15 am / quote |
OnspringFan :
Decent article, but where is Krank in the $1500-$2500 hi-gain range? The Krankenstein+ and Revolution+ are unsurpassed, except by far more expensive Diezel.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 10:25 am / quote |
Cachao :
Fantastic article, (shame there wasn't one when I bought my MG). This is very useful.
I hope there will be more to come
(and this would be nicer with pictures :P)
*bookmarked*

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 10:28 am / quote |
Phat Stud 55 :
Valve King explanation: Tube sound on a budget. There's a lot more about this amp you can say.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 11:06 am / quote |
2mins2midnite :
im thinking of getting the Bugera 333XL head
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 11:08 am / quote |
Alexz11 :
wish I had already read this before getting the stupid spider...at a lower price I would get a ValBee and have a far better tone...

Great article! Great for anyone searching for a new amp and has no experience on the matter.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 11:13 am / quote |
wesselbindt :
Wasn't this already posted on the forum?

Great guide, btw.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 11:14 am / quote |
Goblin67 :
dude do one on stompboxes that would be helpful if somebody posted a list of the heirarchy of stompboxes
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 11:56 am / quote |
tukk04 :
what about raven amps, i have their smallest model and it pretty good sounding but i haven't tried the other ravens.
And i'd like to know about the higher watt frontmans, like the 100 watt 212 combo

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 12:27 pm / quote |
Gwynnell :
tukk04 wrote:

what about raven amps, i have their smallest model and it pretty good sounding but i haven't tried the other ravens.
And i'd like to know about the higher watt frontmans, like the 100 watt 212 combo


Their clean channel is good but if you want distortion you'll need a pedal. Better off with another amp really

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 12:37 pm / quote |
webbtje :
Good stuff, surprised this wasn't done before.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 12:57 pm / quote |
The Beige :
.QOTSA. wrote:

Good article, wish there was one like this before I bought my spider. I imagine a lot of begginers will be facepalming after reading this.


yes...yes i am

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 01:00 pm / quote |
failsaferemedy :
I disagree with your analysis of the Ibanez ToneBlaster as a practice amp. I recorded my version of the Godfather Theme with a 25 watt model and I think the tone sounds just fine for a cheap solid-state amp.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 01:02 pm / quote |
decayingdave :
Absolutely Weak article. It caters only for a single individual's tastes, which for the most, suck.

The title is false advertising and this is the biggest load of garbage I've ever seen, anyone with the most basic amount of intelligence will see just how flawed this really is. WEAK.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 01:06 pm / quote |
TheQuailman :
decayingdave wrote:

Absolutely Weak article. It caters only for a single individual's tastes, which for the most, suck.

The title is false advertising and this is the biggest load of garbage I've ever seen, anyone with the most basic amount of intelligence will see just how flawed this really is. WEAK.

It wasn't written by Dave or me alone, it's all been shown to the folks in GG&A prior to posting it here, so we could discuss the different amps and change things around first.

Please keep in mind that this is for the biggest part subjective - that something is on the list does not mean you'll necessarily like and, that it's not on the list doesn't mean it must be bad. Also, the list is way too long as is anyway, so please understand that we didn't put in anymore. We went with what we think most people will like and what is relatively easy available.

Constructive criticism is welcome. If you have any suggestions, post them in GG&A. Telling me that all of this sucks doesn't help. Tell me WHY it sucks.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 01:20 pm / quote |
jthm_guitarist :
Pretty cool article, maybe use spell check next time to catch the mistakes.
You guys know what you're talking about for practice amps, but it seems like you rely too much on one person's opinion on an amp when you get much past that.
I'll probably reference it though.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 02:15 pm / quote |
JonDLeary :
I agree about the Spider amps for sure but I think everyone on this site enjoys slamming the MG's a little too much. In my opinion they sound just as good if not better than a lot of the other practice amps in their price range, and I've never had a problem with my 15 Watter. For sure they are better than the Spiders atleast.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 03:08 pm / quote |
JonDLeary :
Although I would like to add that buying one of the bigger MG's is a terrible idea and waste of money.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 03:10 pm / quote |
Kevin Saale :
what about raven amps, i have their smallest model and it pretty good sounding but i haven't tried the other ravens.
And i'd like to know about the higher watt frontmans, like the 100 watt 212 combo [/quote]

What about them? They suck, along with the frontmans. Poor amps for the price.

JonDLeary wrote:

I agree about the Spider amps for sure but I think everyone on this site enjoys slamming the MG's a little too much. In my opinion they sound just as good if not better than a lot of the other practice amps in their price range, and I've never had a problem with my 15 Watter. For sure they are better than the Spiders atleast.


The 15 watter is fine since it's dirt cheap, anything else is really a huge waste of money. I've seen plenty of dead mg threads in GGna. Of course they won't all die, but it seems a lot do. Not to mention the peavey vypyr and valvetronix are in the same range and they're head and shoulders above the MG.
failsaferemedy wrote:

I disagree with your analysis of the Ibanez ToneBlaster as a practice amp. I recorded my version of the Godfather Theme with a 25 watt model and I think the tone sounds just fine for a cheap solid-state amp.


Sorry man, but that clip does not sound good. If you like the amp more power to you, but the average person doesn't like how that amp sounds.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 03:21 pm / quote |
ifeastonbums :
Pretty goo article, but lacking some information such as the wattage. Maybe edit in some links to reviews or something?

Also I don't think there was a single crate on that list.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 04:22 pm / quote |
aznrockerdude :
decayingdave wrote:

Absolutely Weak article. It caters only for a single individual's tastes, which for the most, suck.

The title is false advertising and this is the biggest load of garbage I've ever seen, anyone with the most basic amount of intelligence will see just how flawed this really is. WEAK.

You have an MG, I see.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 05:28 pm / quote |
rkp1992 :
very good. only you forgot the orange tiny terror. its goes for 500-600$ usa and is a very good mid gain amp.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 05:37 pm / quote |
FireHawk :
Personally I like the Spider III but then again I am try to have a low quality sound lol
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 05:59 pm / quote |
Sonny_sam :
Generally I agree with this, but a cornford harlequin is NOT a high gain amp. It can do metal with a pedal but it's extremely noisy. It's designed for vintage mid-gain rock/blues.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 06:17 pm / quote |
Ed Hunter :
As suspected, far too much bias towards the MGs and the Spiders, but that doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 06:18 pm / quote |
prsrulz91 :
great guide. I will defintely be referencing this for awhile. However, it really feels like something's missing without having price listings. I guess its not necessary, but imo I would really like to see store prices listed, and possibly an average used price for the amp. Hell, I'll even help assemble a price list if you don't want to do so. Still, an overall great guide
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 06:48 pm / quote |
prsrulz91 :
sorry for double posting, but I do have another tip to add. If you are looking into a peavey solid state amp of any kind, its best to scour(sp?) ebay and craigslist for older versions of the amp. They don't look as asthetically pleasing, but they sound better. Trust me; I've played them both, and the older models have an overall better tone is all areas imo
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 06:52 pm / quote |
Butthead :
You need more info on the Valveking. GREAT amp. I love mine to pieces, kicks the ass of any amp in it's price range and a good deal above.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 07:07 pm / quote |
GHTransfer :
Should I go try and get that money back I put down on my Fender Frontman 212R? After looking at this, I'm reconsidering. (Genres: gonna need to last me a few years when i start playing some *harder* core stuff (A7X, ATR) but for now, more modern rock)
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 08:13 pm / quote |
Kevin Saale :
GHTransfer wrote:

Should I go try and get that money back I put down on my Fender Frontman 212R? After looking at this, I'm reconsidering. (Genres: gonna need to last me a few years when i start playing some *harder* core stuff (A7X, ATR) but for now, more modern rock)


If you don't like the amp, then yes

prsrulz91 wrote:

great guide. I will defintely be referencing this for awhile. However, it really feels like something's missing without having price listings. I guess its not necessary, but imo I would really like to see store prices listed, and possibly an average used price for the amp. Hell, I'll even help assemble a price list if you don't want to do so. Still, an overall great guide


Prices change so often that they'd be very quickly outdated.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 08:21 pm / quote |
banjo1735 :
I wouldn't buy an amp off this information, but the suggestions are definitely solid. You didn't talk at all about a Roland JC-120, though, which seems strange seeing as it's a great amp for pedals.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 08:29 pm / quote |
HendrixClaptonP :
Hmm, I ahve heard that the Oange 30 watt rockers are no the best amps, the tiny terror's are apparently superior. I own an MG100DFX, and i agree with the majority of points in this article, except i would say that in my experience it is not a great deal worse in sound than other solid state amps, if you want good tone, valae is the only way to go, would ahve been good to ahve had this article bfore i got my amp though. I thought overall it was good, maybe as soone said a little too reliant on individuals opinions (acording to .... etc) which sort of detracted a bit i thought (made it sound less professional) but still a very informative and sueufl article, thanks!
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 09:53 pm / quote |
oneblackened :
TBH, the Vypyr should be in the range of up to $600.
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 09:56 pm / quote |
filthylittleboy :
Check out the Ibanez TBX65R it's about 300 Canadian, and probably cheaper in the US

It beats most of those amps in the same range... everyone wastes their money on line 6, when this amp is cheaper, louder, higher gain (nice, too, btw.) also... the cleans are sexy as is the reverb. plug in to one if you ever get the chance.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 10:04 pm / quote |
b1acK_shadowz :
the only thing bad about the marshall mg50dfx is the distortion

it doesnt get enough gain

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 11:45 pm / quote |
kemguitarist :
I suggest going digital...a guitar preamp/effect processor when understood and used properly can beat out any solid state head/combo amp out there. However I only recommend this for the advanced guitar player, novice and beginners may not like it,as they may realize their tones are dry, and not up to par of what they want. Due to it being digital it does reveal any little noise you make, so be sure you can play very accurate before investing in one of these. otherwise go out buy one of these, and a power amp...plug the preamp to the poweramp, then the power amp to some sort of speaker system, mixer, or cab and have fun!
POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 01:06 am / quote |
Brendan.Clace :
Sadly...they cannot stop all the new which amp threads, or spider vs mg threads...it will just never happen....

Good job Dave_MC, great job in fact, on compiling.

POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 02:47 am / quote |
MI6gunny :
I think that the Roland Micro cube is an amazing amp, I got loads of power out of it, and,not to mention, its pretty light for its power output, I would say, that you can never go wrong with a roland micro cube
POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 03:02 am / quote |
TheQuailman :
HendrixClaptonP wrote:

Hmm, I ahve heard that the Oange 30 watt rockers are no the best amps, the tiny terror's are apparently superior. I own an MG100DFX, and i agree with the majority of points in this article, except i would say that in my experience it is not a great deal worse in sound than other solid state amps, if you want good tone, valae is the only way to go, would ahve been good to ahve had this article bfore i got my amp though. I thought overall it was good, maybe as soone said a little too reliant on individuals opinions (acording to .... etc) which sort of detracted a bit i thought (made it sound less professional) but still a very informative and sueufl article, thanks!

The Rocker 30 is a very fine valve amp imo, it's the Orange Crush series that isn't all that great - they're Orange's beginner line of amps and don't sound much like their higher end models. There was some controversy about it, so we left it out completely.

Once again people: We can't include every amp out there in the list, so we concentrate on what is available in Europe and the US easily (because let's be honest, that's where most people on the forums come from) and what we think will work for most people. Also, it's nice if you like the Marshall MG, Fender Frontman, Line6 Spider or Ibanez Toneblaster - if one of them gives you the tone you want, more power to you! But it's the general consensus among the regulars in GG&A that these models are sub par in general or in their respective price ranges, so we think that for the vast majority of people, other amps are better choices.

POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 05:11 am / quote |
creeker :
The bigger Fender Frontmans (65/100w)are definitely worth a buy!!! I own a FM65R and I get a very nice bluesy tone out of it. The only thing is that it's not very versatile. I wouldn't recommend it for metal or some hard rock. The overdrive is a little bit too muddy for this genres. So you'll need a pedal for that. But it works together well with all kinds of pedals.
POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 06:10 am / quote |
jj1565 :
great article, thanks for the work.
POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 09:37 am / quote |
AlaskenRexy :
thank you for this writing! it helped me A LOT!!!
POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 12:14 pm / quote |
webbtje :
Great article. Now we need an equivalent for guitars...
POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 03:50 pm / quote |
guns_rosesldb :
i have a 75 watt spider, but my main amp is a peavey windsor. The line 6 isnt near the windsor, but its definitly not that bad. I would still be comfortable using it in a gig. you just gotta find you own sound with it. The presets are muddy and sound horrible when put into the mix with other instruments though, so you gotta play with it a little
POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 03:54 pm / quote |
rhoadsfan92 :
im gunna disagree about the tsl and dsl being the same amp with more gain and more channels on the tsl. dsl has better tones overall byfar than the tsl, unless you need more gain in which case you dont really want marshall. dsl has much better crunch.
POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 07:34 pm / quote |
thsrayas :
creeker wrote:

The bigger Fender Frontmans (65/100w)are definitely worth a buy!!! I own a FM65R and I get a very nice bluesy tone out of it. The only thing is that it's not very versatile. I wouldn't recommend it for metal or some hard rock. The overdrive is a little bit too muddy for this genres. So you'll need a pedal for that. But it works together well with all kinds of pedals.


No, they are not a good buy. At nearly $300 you could get a MUCH better amp than a FM.

POSTED: 05/29/2009 - 01:42 am / quote |
raichu016 :
nice!!!!
POSTED: 05/30/2009 - 08:37 am / quote |
pielover375 :
I have an FM212R and I really like it. The cleans are nice, dirtys are ok, and it gets loud. When rocking wit the gain *****s that I do, loud is a nessessity.
POSTED: 05/30/2009 - 11:00 am / quote |
Mitchell? :
C'mon, no Vox AC15 love? I think it deserves a spot in the low gain section of the $400-800 category.
POSTED: 05/30/2009 - 11:37 am / quote |
creeker :
No, they are not a good buy. At nearly $300 you could get a MUCH better amp than a FM.


Tell me an amp in this price range, which is NO modeling combo, has got the same power and a 12" speaker...

POSTED: 05/30/2009 - 01:35 pm / quote |
dropdeadcody666 :
when i got my mg three years ago, i thought it was the shit just because it was a marshall. well now i know that it's terrible and everything from the clean tones to the distortion is terrible. looking for a new amp to play grungy stuff with, any tips?
POSTED: 05/30/2009 - 02:27 pm / quote |
Spoony_Bard :
Alright, after reading this article, I KNOW my Peavey XXX has to be broken, because it doesn't sound nearly as good as described here. I know there's a good amp in there somewhere, though...*searches*
POSTED: 05/30/2009 - 03:48 pm / quote |
Diamond Dave :
Sweet, not gonna lie I'm pretty stoked my VC15 got a mention. I got it half retail on ebay last year and I've been lovin the little guy. Easily loud enough for band practice and I've had it mic-ed up for some big gigs and it was killer.
POSTED: 05/31/2009 - 01:32 am / quote |
Conarnarnar :
Yeh! I made the mistake of buying a 30w Line6 Spider II. Absolute Rubbish. Line 6 pedals arnt compatible with it and it sounds artificial. Dont waste your money on it. Ive borrowed a Line 6 Pod XT Live and it sounds aweful though the amp so I have to plug it in to external speakers. Its useless. (the Pod XT Live is amazing though!)
POSTED: 05/31/2009 - 06:59 am / quote |
Pat_s1t :
Aww dammit. Why couldn't this have come along BEFORE I bought that damn Spider III?
...
*sadface*

POSTED: 05/31/2009 - 10:46 am / quote |
CrazyHobo13 :
I saw that the Valvetronix was mentioned in there. I've got the Vox AD120VTX Vavletronix (the early ones before the chrome grille) which is just about the best amp in the world in my opinion.
POSTED: 05/31/2009 - 11:42 am / quote |
prsrulz91 :
creeker wrote:

No, they are not a good buy. At nearly $300 you could get a MUCH better amp than a FM.
look for an older model peavey bandit (the kind that were made in the US way back when. Most are sold for around 250, and they sound good

Tell me an amp in this price range, which is NO modeling combo, has got the same power and a 12" speaker...

POSTED: 05/31/2009 - 05:08 pm / quote |
CelestialChaos :
TSL tighter than the DSL?

...please...

POSTED: 06/01/2009 - 01:07 am / quote |
leondb :
Great stuff! It's very helpful with all the gain+price ranges.

All "What amp" posts should just be linked here.

POSTED: 06/01/2009 - 12:05 pm / quote |
genghisgandhi :
no vypyr?

POSTED: 06/03/2009 - 04:44 pm / quote |
cccforthree :
wow people are idots if you enjoy listening to ANY famous or good bands you know what most of the use Marshalls MG, JMC, Solid State series because they are good i dont know why people think they are crap personally i think these people that have problems with them either are abusing them or dont know there ohms and watts because my simple 15 watt has a lot of great sounds and i can play some heavy metal on very nicely and i just purchased the 100 watt head with a 1980's premier cab that i own already so my suggestion is stop saying what u think of amps that arent handled probably and say what it is when it is perfectly taknig care of like all amps should be because when i wacth steve vai, ban halen, joe satirani, gus g, carlos santana, nickleback, lamb of god, breaking benjamen, metallica, iron maiden, and many other bands i have seen them use marshalls more than other amps for gigs but im not dissing other amps just showing u how marshalls arent crap i have a mini 5 watt portable and it sonuds better than half the starter or 10 watt amps u can buy for lots of $
POSTED: 06/14/2009 - 10:28 pm / quote |
vigenharutyunya :
hmm going soon to buy a Windsor...well not soon but..
hmm so it doesnt have good cleans?? eh and only single channel?!
hmm idk... is there anything like that for about 500-700 or 800 halfstack... for Rock/Metal/Blues.... im, solo guitarist mostly but i do rhythms while im singing.. haha
leave suggesons here or better in my profile

V

POSTED: 06/20/2009 - 04:36 am / quote |
Petar :
as my first amp, my dad got me an MG.

6 months ago, I got another one; Spider III.

You can laugh as much as you want, but I like the Spider III versatility. Although there are not that many great sounds to make.

POSTED: 06/22/2009 - 11:45 am / quote |
JungIe :
cccforthree wrote:

wow people are idots if you enjoy listening to ANY famous or good bands you know what most of the use Marshalls MG, JMC, Solid State series because they are good i dont know why people think they are crap personally i think these people that have problems with them either are abusing them or dont know there ohms and watts because my simple 15 watt has a lot of great sounds and i can play some heavy metal on very nicely and i just purchased the 100 watt head with a 1980's premier cab that i own already so my suggestion is stop saying what u think of amps that arent handled probably and say what it is when it is perfectly taknig care of like all amps should be because when i wacth steve vai, ban halen, joe satirani, gus g, carlos santana, nickleback, lamb of god, breaking benjamen, metallica, iron maiden, and many other bands i have seen them use marshalls more than other amps for gigs but im not dissing other amps just showing u how marshalls arent crap i have a mini 5 watt portable and it sonuds better than half the starter or 10 watt amps u can buy for lots of $


From this huge wall of text, I think you said that Marshalls are good, and that all good bands use solid state amps.

First off, no one said that Marshall sucks. Only Marshall MGs suck.

Second, just about all bands with big equipment use tube amps. Marshall also makes tube amps.

Third, paragraphs make you look less retarded.

POSTED: 07/05/2009 - 10:53 pm / quote |
Joewhall :
great column but i think you are too hard on line 6 spider III's. They may sound a little digital, but they are great for someone who doesn't really have a specific genre of music that they focus on or for beginners because spiders can cover so many varieties of sounds.
POSTED: 07/06/2009 - 01:45 pm / quote |
thatwhiteguy69 :
.QOTSA. wrote:

Good article, wish there was one like this before I bought my spider. I imagine a lot of begginers will be facepalming after reading this.


:facepalm: i had a choice between getting a line 6 Spider III and an mg15cdr..... i think i am glad i got the mg... i mean over the spider of course

POSTED: 08/03/2009 - 10:13 am / quote |
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