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Guitargasm! A Novel. Part Six

author: Nolan Whyte date: 12/06/2007 category: junkyard
rating: 8.6 / votes: 63 

Danny steps down off the bus, takes three steps forward and drops to his knees, puking on some unlucky jerk's lawn. Jay steps down after him and watches as the bus pulls away from the curb. Kev is still onboard, riding a few more stops closer to home.

Danny pukes and spits, coughs, dry-heaves and spits again, panting for air. Jay lights a cigarette, waiting for his younger brother to get the poison out. He looks around, hoping no one notices what's going on. The lights in the house where Danny is puking stay turned off.

Eventually Danny straightens up and the boys walk the few blocks home. Jay walks with his arm around his brother's shoulders, keeping him moving in a straight line.

They come around the block, and as they approach their house Jay sees a light on in the living room window. "Oh, god," he says. "Someone is actually home." When they get to the house Jay flicks his cigarette butt into the shrubs and unlocks the front door.

In the living room Jeff Warren, the boys' father, is sitting reading a newspaper by lamplight. He takes one look at Danny as the boys step inside. "What the hell is wrong with him?" he asks.

Jay responds with a question of his own: "Do you still live here?"

"Don't be a smart-ass," answers his father. "I asked what's wrong with him."

Danny slumps drunkenly against Jay, and Jay props him up. "He had some beers," Jay says, slipping off his shoes.

"He's not old enough to drink," says Jeff Warren.

"Yeah," Jay says. "So seriously, do you still live here?"

Jeff Warren folds up the newspaper. "Yes, I still goddamn live here. And you should watch your mouth."

Jay moves Danny through the living room, ignoring his father. He gets Danny down the hall and into his bedroom, depositing the drunk and stoned kid on the bed. Danny is asleep before Jay even gets the door closed.

Jeff Warren is there in the hallway, blocking the way to Jay's room. "Are you taking him out drinking now?"

"He's okay," Jay says.

"He doesn't look okay." Jeff Warren is an inch shorter than his son, but he's solidly built with a square jaw and a crew cut. "He looks pretty messed up."

Jay wants to say, well, where the hell are you to take care of him, but he knows better. "He's fine. It was just a couple beers. He can't drink, that's all." He squeezes past his father, heading into his room.

"He's not supposed to drink!" his father shouts after him.

* * *

At eleven o'clock in the morning Jay gets up, dresses and wanders out into the kitchen. His mother Cheryl is there, sitting at the table with a cup of coffee. Last night's newspaper is folded in front of her.

"Good morning," she says with a hint of sarcasm. "How do you feel?"

"Fine," Jay says, pouring himself a coffee from the pot on the stove. "Why?"

"Your father said you two showed up looking a little worse for wear last night."

"Yeah? Where's Dad now?"

"He's gone out."

"I'm shocked." Jay adds some milk and sits down. "I took Danny out with me last night. I let him have some beer, but he went too fast and got a little wasted. So it's my fault. I should have slowed him down."

"Or maybe you shouldn't be giving him beer at all."

Jay sips his coffee. "You think a high school senior isn't going to drink beer? You're lucky he's got me to make sure he gets home."

"Just make sure you aren't the one getting him into trouble."

Jay shakes his head and pulls out a section of the newspaper. Cheryl Warren sits with her coffee. Her bleached hair is pulled back into a ponytail and she has bags under her eyes. Although she's pretty for her age, she looks run-down, which is to be expected considering she works double shifts all week to avoid coming home.

She gets up and puts her cup in the sink. "I’m going to work. I'll leave you guys money for pizza tonight, all right?"

"If you want."

She leaves Jay alone in the kitchen. He has some toast, finishes his coffee and wanders downstairs. His Ibanez is waiting in its case. He takes it out and slings the strap over his shoulder. He switches the amp on and turns up the volume, appreciating the hum it makes. He selects a pick, holds it poised over the strings while he counts in a song. The rapid-fire opening riff to "Anyway Anyhow Anywhere" from The Who screeches out, and he plays the song through, singing as well as he can remember.

He plays through a variety of old songs, hitting Floyd, Bowie, The Stones, CCR, The Animals and The Kinks, jamming through a dozen good cover tunes. Cover band standards, really. He thinks it's sick; he could probably make more money touring the little hotels and bars around the state playing those old songs then he'll ever make in Hellakill. And he knows that Hellakill is good.

Next up is Nirvana, Green Day and The White Stripes. Jay finishes up an abortive "Seven Nation Army" when he sees Danny stumbling down the stairs holding the rail. Jay holds his fingers across the strings and silences the instrument.

"Hey stud," he says. "How's your head?"

"Not bad. My stomach feels a bit shitty. Sorry I got so wasted."

"Yeah. You're just lucky the other guys from Hellakill weren't there. They would have laughed their asses off. Six beers, man! You're a lightweight."

Danny leans against the wall. "It was because I mixed it with pot."

"Obviously. Go get your guitar. I'm going to teach you the ultimate hangover cure."

Danny shuffles back up the stairs and returns a few minutes later with the acoustic. He sits down with the guitar on his lap, hunching over to see where his fingers go on the frets.

"Hang on," Jay says. "You'll get a sore neck and back if you play that way. Straighten up." He puts his hands on his brother's lower back and shoulders, adjusting Danny's posture until he's sitting straight. "Look with your eyes, not your whole head," Jay tells him. "Seriously, you'll end up like Quasimodo if you hunch over like that. Okay, best hangover cure in the world. Scales."

"Scales?"

"Seriously. Check this out. You start here, and you go up and back down. La-la-la-la-la-la-la. E-F-G-A-G-F-E."

"How does this cure a hangover?"

"You haven't even tried it yet. Come on, we've got work to do."

* * *

"Do you know what rock and roll needs?" says Steve, chewing on a bite of takeout sandwich. "It needs another show like Beavis and Butthead. Something really simple that appeals to the lowest common denominator, but tells people what rocks and what sucks."

Most of the band is sitting in Peter's kitchen, and Danny is there with them. They eat and chat while they wait for Tyson to arrive.

"Beavis and Butthead ran its course," Peter says. "You couldn't bring it back. It would be too dated."

"Especially after the movie," adds Jay. "That was terrible. Who did they have, Bruce Willis and Demi Moore doing the voices?"

"Yeah, but I don't mean actually bringing back the same show. You need a new show that brings people in with a simple gimmick, and then also have the show become an arbiter of taste. Beavis and Butthead's approval helped good bands make it. But if they said a band sucked, that was it. Career over."

"Like who?" Peter asks.

"Bands like Prong. Prong got huge from Beavis and Butthead. That 'Snap You Fingers, Snap Your Neck' song was on MTV all the time. And on the other side you have Winger, who just got destroyed. You know, they dressed the nerd kid in a Winger t-shirt, and a few months later Kip Winger is playing to empty houses.

"See, the problem with rock today," he continues, "is that people can't tell the good from the bad. If bad music gets enough promotion money they go to the top, even though they suck. So rock and roll needs a taste-maker. It needs someone to promote the good bands and clear out the crap so the good stuff can rise to the top. Then maybe rock can be as big as hip hop again."

Jay laughs. "So all we need is to get Mike Judge to quit that King of The Hill show and get him to work on something involving crotch jokes."

Danny watches the older boys talk. He thinks about how it must feel to have your career destroyed because some cartoon characters didn't like your video, but he keeps it to himself.

Peter shakes his blond head. "A TV show won't save rock and roll. These things all go in cycles. For rock and roll back to get on top again, it needs to go underground and have black kids rediscover it."

Steve and Jay look at each other. "Um, what?"

"Look," Peter explains, "rock and roll started out as black music, right? Chuck Berry, Bo Diddly, Little Richard, all those guys. White kids listened, caught on and brought it to a mass audience. White people ran the show for the next what? Forty or fifty years. They took it as far as they could, and now it's sliding into irrelevance. Meanwhile, you have hip hop, which was invented by black people. Eminem breaks hip hop to a white audience, and now that's all people listen to. Rock is definitely lower on the food chain. So if you want rock to get back on top you need black kids to discover it and take it underground. They'll innovate and make it cool again. Then you reintroduce it to the mass market. That's how you get rock back on top."

Steve nods. "Right. So instead of suburban white kids all talking like 50 Cent, we go back to kids like Keith Richards who pretend they're old black blues men. Is that your plan?"

Peter shrugs. "It's not really my plan. It's just an observation."

"Good," Jay says, "because it would put us out a work."

"Hmm. It's true though," Steve says. "There aren't many black rock stars anymore. Prince. Lenny Kravitz. That's all that leaps to mind."

"That's because white kids made rock nerdy," Peter says. "I blame the eighties."

There's a knock followed by the sound of the door opening. "Hello?" calls Tyson.

"We're in here," Peter calls back.

Hellakill's lead singer walks in. He has on a wool cap and a brown corduroy jacket. "Shit, it's getting cold, isn't it? Oh, hey Danny," he says, spotting Jay's brother. "Are you Slash already?"

Danny looks at Jay. Jay looks at Tyson. "He's just here to watch," Jay says. "That's all right, isn't it?"

"Sure."

Everyone heads into the basement and the band gets its equipment ready. Danny approaches Tyson. "Thanks for letting me use your guitar," he says.

"No problem. Can you play anything yet?"

Danny looks at his brother, but Jay isn't paying attention. "A couple songs," Danny says.

"Good for you," Tyson replies. He sounds friendly, but Danny gets the idea Tyson doesn't have much faith in him. He slinks away and sits in the corner to watch the band rehearse.

2007 © Nolan Whyte

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 09:26 am + print this article + mail to a friend
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 86 
 comments posted
aceofspades10 :
first

awesome story, keep it comin

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 09:49 am / quote |
dale-banez :
genious. pure genious.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 10:10 am / quote |
Quantonyne :
its starting to pick up....i just wish they would come out faster....but the wait makes it more worth it
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 10:16 am / quote |
zadzior :
Cool as always
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 10:22 am / quote |
rodyrdz :
Awesome can't wait for number 7
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 10:24 am / quote |
\m/Torin\m/ :
badass
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 10:27 am / quote |
slann101 :
keep it going dude
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 10:28 am / quote |
Leper Affinity :
I checked UG like 3 or 4 times a day for this... glad I got to read it
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 10:31 am / quote |
ChazBcWarlock :
good part 6
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 10:47 am / quote |
sleepwalker16 :
love it, more please
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 10:58 am / quote |
ZanasCross :
You really should bind these together and release them as a novel after you finish blowing our minds.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 11:16 am / quote |
Pipps0 :
Awesome! Lovin the good old music you're adding in here.
He selects a pick, holds it poised over the strings while he counts in a song. The rapid-fire opening riff to "Anyway Anyhow Anywhere" from The Who screeches out, and he plays the song through, singing as well as he can remember.

He plays through a variety of old songs, hitting Floyd, Bowie, The Stones, CCR, The Animals and The Kinks, jamming through a dozen good cover tunes. Cover band standards, really. He thinks it's sick; he could probably make more money touring the little hotels and bars around the state playing those old songs then he'll ever make in Hellakill. And he knows that Hellakill is good.

Next up is Nirvana, Green Day and The White Stripes. Jay finishes up an abortive "Seven Nation Army" when he sees Danny stumbling down the stairs holding the rail. Jay holds his fingers across the strings and silences the instrument.


POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 11:20 am / quote |
philjay :
Paced but a tad on the slow side.

What happened here? Danny's a lightweight, they got back home, practice for 2 seconds that's it..sounds like someone is writing without a plan but hey I still like it

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 11:25 am / quote |
FunkedUp :
I don't understand what's good about this in any way. Can anyone explain how there's anything positive to say about this? What is the point of it?
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 11:57 am / quote |
djmay71 :
arse-ome. keep 'em coming.
i get so bored from waiting between Guitargasms that I've started my own kinda thing. It's on my Facebook. :P


im so nerdy

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 11:59 am / quote |
ezlntrooper :
FunkedUp wrote:

I don't understand what's good about this in any way. Can anyone explain how there's anything positive to say about this? What is the point of it?

what i like about it is the character development - seeing characters change as the story progresses. plus its relevant to people here, what with the old tunes and the guitars : D

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 12:01 pm / quote |
TheBurningFish :
Get black kids to listen to it... like it :P
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 12:17 pm / quote |
jthm_guitarist :
It's really slow... but at least it's something. You get to say you have the best story on UG.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 12:17 pm / quote |
ChucklesMginty :
A story about what everyones thinking, nice work.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 12:46 pm / quote |
ghostofhendrix :
TheBurningFish wrote:

Get black kids to listen to it... like it :P


Yeh I'd never thought of that... he could be right, if only we could get some homies 2 take up guitar lol

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 01:03 pm / quote |
redpads35 :
nolan's stories are on the same level as those air bud movies..band with a bad name, different characters...athletic golden retriever, different sport each time...all recycled ideas
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 01:22 pm / quote |
Jsthegr8 :
good stuff, I like the whole band band conversation...
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 02:01 pm / quote |
Jimbleton :
redpads35 wrote:

nolan's stories are on the same level as those air bud movies..band with a bad name, different characters...athletic golden retriever, different sport each time...all recycled ideas


dude shut up everyone else likes it so we dont really care if it is recycled ideas

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 02:02 pm / quote |
Millerlitetros :
I would compare his stories to a matt christopher book. He has a formula that he plugs everything into that makes every story the same. Except instead of being written for young kids who like sports it is written for aspiring musicians. And he throws in scenes of drinking and smoking pot to mask the fact that his stories are going nowhere and have been for a while. Try something new dude "In the Van" fizzled out and this story looks like it will do the same. 25 articles that go nowhere and then a half-assed ending.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 02:31 pm / quote |
Metal_Rich :
Kick ass.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 02:46 pm / quote |
theo_siordia :
Cool cool cool
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 03:01 pm / quote |
maidenpriest69 :
i want more now.....
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 03:01 pm / quote |
Ramco :
Millerlitetros wrote:

I would compare his stories to a matt christopher book. He has a formula that he plugs everything into that makes every story the same. Except instead of being written for young kids who like sports it is written for aspiring musicians. And he throws in scenes of drinking and smoking pot to mask the fact that his stories are going nowhere and have been for a while. Try something new dude "In the Van" fizzled out and this story looks like it will do the same. 25 articles that go nowhere and then a half-assed ending.

Dude, if you diss Matt Christopher again I'm going to have to kick your ass, just for precedent.

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 03:33 pm / quote |
Paisa :
awesome! i just wished they came faster =S
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 03:33 pm / quote |
Vykk Draygo :
The worst is the poor writing, stilted dialog, and flat characterization, forget about the recycled ideas.

I like reading bad fiction, it gives me something to chuckle at (I also like b-movies). While this isn't the worst I've read, it's also nowhere near what I'd call good. It was salvageable at first, but I think the author has settled, and isn't really going to advance this story quality wise.

I do hope the author ratchets up the quality, I just don't expect it.

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 03:38 pm / quote |
samerika :
Well you can't write bass without ass.

lol

Anyways i liked it!

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 03:53 pm / quote |
element4433 :
FINALLY!!!!!
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 04:17 pm / quote |
hudwrstlr35 :
keep writin and ill keep readin
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 04:19 pm / quote |
qotsa1998 :
nice observation about music. All good bands need to get popular is alot of promoting from the record companies. But even tho record companies have the money to do it, they decide to promote the band following the latest trends. Honestly, i think the hip-hop injection into pop music is a trend. Hopefully bands who want to get famous bad enough will realize that the most popular bands in history like Pink Floyd and Guns n Roses put on amaaazing shows that very few, if any bands now can even come close to.

Good story btw, altho i am finding the characters to be a bit less than believable sometimes. But its cool to see someone writing about this kinda stuff.

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 04:22 pm / quote |
bendystraw :
oh damn i accidentally voted 1 instead of ten. sorry nolan, great work!
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 04:30 pm / quote |
Wicked_Bassist7 :
nice job
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 04:54 pm / quote |
Coulterboyz :
I think the characters have become flat. Its the same stock idea every other writer has about teenagers. Every one has to smoke and drink to be believable. And the Dad is always the pissed off one. I would have liked to see the Dad just not care about the kids and the Mom be a total Bitch. Of course, then I would probably be saying that that was to stock lol. I think the appeal to In the Van was that every character was pretty unique. I like Jay simply because so many people would have made him the mean older brother that doesnt care, but Jay has a soul. I think one of the other problems this story has is that Its not going anywhere. All stories start slow, so I cut slack there. And you have a kid now (hope everythings going well with him/her by the way!), so I cut A LOT of slack for that. But the last two installments were just filler. I would rather wait a while longer to get one more good, plot moving installment in than another filler. But the way this one ended made me feel that the next one will get things going, so I cant wait!

All right, The good stuff now, so I wont be torn apart on the board and because all CONSTRUCTIVE critisim gives good and bad. I feel this is more musical than In the Van ever was, and I like it. I like the way you get into the head of a noob and all the little things that anyone new (or old!) to guitar does. And I have a huge question for you, Mister Whyte. Do you search for songs that fit your stories, or do you have them all stored up in your head. Cuz I just sit here and marvel at your song choice.

I feel these stories have a lot of potential, but if they continue down their present course, this will turn into a quagmire of repeated storylines. Please change course, Mister Whyte, for the good of us all!!!
And thank you for devoting your time for us here at UG. Not enough people thank you for a commitment you probably shouldnt even be doing, and thats just wrong. So on the behalf of the UG community, Thank You, and please Keep them Coming!

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 05:15 pm / quote |
stradivari310 :
do you think it helps if I have a black kid in my band..?

great story.. keep 'em coming.

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 05:24 pm / quote |
iml84myd8 :
The weird thing is though that people will complain about pointless filler installations, yet still keep reading. If you don't like it at all, why do you come back for more. Plus How can you start a story without plot and character development. I can see the foreshadowing coming into effect.
It would be unfair to compare this to In the van on comeback road at all, because the stories are completely unilateral. In the can was a storie about a washed out musician trying to get back out there, with the "Guitar-hero" complex showing up in Jason, and the overall stress of being on the road. It was a story about touring. Guitargasm's developing into a story on teh way to success. Two very different ideas.
If Nolan went straight to the climax it would look pretty stupid, and we wouldn't even be readin to criticize his work. Come on, all the characters are developing and he's probably going to use them all later.
Geez

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 06:12 pm / quote |
punkrocker10115 :
Man your writing is like heroin ...I'm just waiting for the next Guitargasm fix! Also if you don't like it don't read it. No one wants to hear crappy, annoying, not to mention repetitive criticism. Maybe you should learn how to write a well constructed sentence before you criticize someone else's work.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 06:48 pm / quote |
guitargod21136 :
i have a black kid with dreads in my band, and he's an amazing guitar player so im 2 steps ahead of you guys
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 06:52 pm / quote |
Sound Mind :
i always try to explain to people at my school about how black people made rock and that me playing guitar doesn't make me "white" (if you're to dumb to realize it, i'm black).
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 06:57 pm / quote |
GuitaPlaya :
redpads35 wrote:

nolan's stories are on the same level as those air bud movies..band with a bad name, different characters...athletic golden retriever, different sport each time...all recycled ideas


I like his stories but I still think this comment is funny, it's just his opinion so relax.

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 07:02 pm / quote |
funkbass369 :
damn....looks like im gonna have to get some black "peeps" to listen to rock more.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 07:50 pm / quote |
DaniDementia :
Why is everyone bitching about the pace? This is written in novel style. Has anyone ever read a novel? These chapters are ridiculously short, so the pace is quite good.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 08:22 pm / quote |
dannycruz :
Good one. I like it when writers slowly develop the characters.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 09:08 pm / quote |
Rhymnauscerous :
I love all these people that have to convince themselves that they're sooo much better than a person they don't even know...online...by knitpicking apart every single word of this story. They should make ego in pill form. That way these literary critique geniuses wouldn't have to get off by criticizing something that they haven't even attempted.
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 09:22 pm / quote |
rhcpfan27 :
Sound Mind wrote:

i always try to explain to people at my school about how black people made rock and that me playing guitar doesn't make me "white" (if you're to dumb to realize it, i'm black).


haha just mention jimi hendrix they will probably shut up.

and this is good stuff nolan, i love reading these every time they show up

POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 09:57 pm / quote |
Styx :
Great as alwyas!
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 11:00 pm / quote |
ApihBlind :
Part 7 plz!!!!
POSTED: 12/06/2007 - 11:14 pm / quote |
Burenen :
omg! guitargasm!!!!!

POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 12:12 am / quote |
Snipe :
I loved the Beavis and Butthead part, completely irreverent but still with a load of meaning.

Also, Metalocolypse is the new Beavis and Butthead.

POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 12:16 am / quote |
teenrocker :
Bravo
POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 12:23 am / quote |
Qasur :
I don't want to diss the writer, but I too write, and short stories are all about getting people's attention.

Even if you consider what you've written to be a "novel", then you still need for each chapter to catch your attention.

Many writers started out writing weekly/monthly installments of continuous "short stories" that interlinked for Magazines/Newspapers/Etc. Each of those had to have a catch or hook that kept people coming back, otherwise they were dropped and a new writer was found.

Nolan, you've got some skills with the musically addition, but you're lacking in the writing department. I can understand where "generic" and "overused" characters come about, but people, do realize, its' VERY hard to create a unique person for a story.

If you want unique, go reach some Chuck Palahnuik stuff or Kurt Vonnegut. Otherwise, take the actually plot and give it chance first. A good example of this is American Beauty. Generic characters plus a well-written plot = good story.

I found "In the Van" to be much better as it told of lots of experience in no-name bar-bands, but it dwindled half-way through and ended on a major downer that people saw coming from the beginning. Misleading people into a drastic, different ending is powerful and possibly moving (depending on how you write it.)

Guitargasm is just relatively weak in plot strength. I think the last three installments have been subpar and aren't even filler. There isn't much of a plot, and if it ends with the younger brother becoming a member of the band... wow... didn't see it coming. No matter how you get the younger brother into the band, it's gonna happen.... otherwise, it's called a "plot twist" and all of a sudden, it re-hooks readers.

See, most of you out there don't realise this, but you come here to read these installments (as does myself) to wait for these "plot twists" to happen that re-hook your interest and drive you more into the story. Sadly, Nolan, I don't see those. During "in the van", halfway through, a good Plot Twist w/positive reasoning would have re-steered that back on course, but instead, it turned for the worst and went further downhill until it asploded into nothingness.

Now, I'm not destroying because I hate your anything. I don't want to "destroy you" at all, but instead, positively reinforce the fact that you've reached "here" (a point being above non-writer) and you need to get higher than that in my book in order to say you've "grown" as a writer. You have style and taste, but the style is lacking and looks "niched", being that since you got positive criticism overall, you've found a home instead of getting the negative feedback (which is usually good, constructed criticism.) This has hurt you.

I think a lot can be said from what I've said, as well as others, but you need to step it up a notch in a good way, not a negative way. Basically, you're still building, and we've seen this "step" before (In the Van)... so show us you can go to the next step, awing us, and then hammer us more by ascending another before our eyes.

Good day,
Qasur

POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 01:47 am / quote |
red157 :
Qasur just made the best post I've ever seen in a shoutbox on UG.
POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 03:08 am / quote |
1h81337 :


red157 wrote:

Qasur just made the best post I've ever seen in a shoutbox on UG.


ditto

POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 06:09 am / quote |
metallicaboy27 :
kick asssss
POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 11:01 am / quote |
Nolan Whyte :
but I too write,


Sheesh.

POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 12:16 pm / quote |
Partyboy2k05 :



LMFAO!!! That's great
Nolan Whyte wrote:

but I too write,


Sheesh.

POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 01:25 pm / quote |
stradivari310 :
guitargod21136 wrote:

i have a black kid with dreads in my band, and he's an amazing guitar player so im 2 steps ahead of you guys


I have a black kid who's a drum prodigy. He made drumline as a freshman, and my school has the best drumline in the state. mmmm

POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 06:45 pm / quote |
bathroom_gnome :
FunkedUp wrote:

I don't understand what's good about this in any way. Can anyone explain how there's anything positive to say about this? What is the point of it?


don't worry, once it's been taken underground and black kids discover it and make it cool, and then it gets presented to the white audience, you'll like it

good story.

POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 07:11 pm / quote |
deuce145 :
Ok, seriously, everyone who's talking sh*t needs to shut up. Are you putting up stories for everyone to read? Are you a book critic? F**king Judas.

At least Nolan is doing something productive. Keep the stories going. They're f**kng awesome.

POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 07:30 pm / quote |
headbanger703 :
Holy crap! this story is awesome. iv bin seein it on ug 4 a while, but 2day i finally decided 2 luk at it nd i ran thru all 6 parts in a row. Great job Nolan!
POSTED: 12/07/2007 - 10:52 pm / quote |
MetallicaNRoses :
it would make it a bit less predictable/generic if the stories focused a bit more on danny than on hellakill, at least for a while, just telling the story of how he gets into rock and roll, because i think that's what people are looking for, and then either end it without/before making it into the band or if it would work to make it longer maybe jump straight to an important event, such as his first gig and then make it a little bit like in the van as told from jason's point of view.
POSTED: 12/08/2007 - 12:14 am / quote |
Riot Act :
Nolan Whyte wrote:

but I too write,


Sheesh.




Keep em coming, your doin fine. If anyone doesnt lke it, Id like to see them step up to the challenge. It cannot be easy to take this kind of criticism. This man has balls.

POSTED: 12/08/2007 - 12:21 am / quote |
insectsamongus :
Qusar your critique was constructed and explained at such a lever that it had to have been extremely beneficial to any aspiring writer suffering from this type of flaw. I have had the same worry for Whyte's writing and now also recognize the patterned and continues lack of regular hooks.

Novel writing requires the true skill of perfectly intertwining complete and interesting short stories. The latest installments by Whyte have not been independently interesting or complex, in fact, they have been, as Qusar said, generic and cliched in both characters (which is very exceptable)and plot (very unexceptable).

The hooks that make this happen have to come regularly in the story. These hooks, twists, or points of intrigue do not necessarily have to match up exactly with the conclusion to each of his installments. They simply have to happen.

Looking at Whyte's last few installments, and as a regular Whyte characteristic; he brings no hooks, twists or points of interest at any rate of interval. This rate could vary to every 3rd story, or possibly every story. Perhaps maybe throw these hooks out at even longer rates, but he fails to do so.

This leads to his climaxes having no true substance. I can prove that to you because I can remember how I felt and you I trust the majority of readers felt at the end of "In the Van,": Was that the last installment, or is there more? That very thought shows a lack of definitive climax and that is because definitive climax takes multiple hooks, twists and points of intrigue to create a pattern. The climax breaks this pattern creating a sense of conclusion.

Whyte will not be able to have a compelling or recognizable conclusion if he continues these long intervals of no plot line pattern development.

Mr. Whyte I hope our posts are helpful and help you to continue to grow as a writer. I have enjoyed reading you and believe you have tons of potential. Thank you for your time.

insectsamongus

POSTED: 12/08/2007 - 12:37 am / quote |
callum2903 :
YAY ITS BACK!!! i hate UG for stoping it coming so fast fucing admin idiots lol!!!!!
POSTED: 12/08/2007 - 09:23 am / quote |
BlueShox :
I think if he wrote and posted more at a time it wouldn't seem so half-assed and going nowhere.

This is kind of like reading a quarter of a chapter in a real book, you're not really going to get much story development in that little bit of writing.

I still like it, though. Keep up the good work.

POSTED: 12/08/2007 - 01:20 pm / quote |
ginjaninja :
MOAR!
POSTED: 12/08/2007 - 03:26 pm / quote |
peacemoles :
amazing. i read this then had to read the other five before it so my whole afternoons gone now!
keep it coming
maybe a little faster

POSTED: 12/08/2007 - 03:28 pm / quote |
Shining_Yrael :
I just discovered these about an hour ago. Shame I've been missing out. Now that I'm done, though, I'm really looking for some updates. Really cool story.
POSTED: 12/08/2007 - 07:03 pm / quote |
Qasur :
I enjoy the positive feedback for "stepping out" to say this.

I don't want to feel like the bad guy. I did miss something that Insectsamongus pointed out and this Nolan has great potential. He's just not seeing all of it yet.

Readers can see that he has some foothold of what he's doing, otherwise these stories wouldn't feel worth it at all and people would do some major flaming.

@Faster writing: two words: Writers block. That's one of my major problems as a writer is that creatively, I'm only good to go every few weeks (but I make mad dashes to my PC to type away everything I've come up with. heck, I'll pull out a sheet of paper and start jotting stuff down to remember to retype up later.)

Not to say that Nolan has writers block, but it can be a factor as to why some installments aren't as well written as others. Since he isn't on an official schedule to write, he's just doing it casually in the Guest Column, then he can put them out whenever. I personally encourage Nolan to take his time.

I do hope that you have a plot already thought up rather than ideas for characters. I've found that plot is so far more key than anything else, even cliche or overused characters. I'm telling ya, characters are hard to come by in uniqueness.

If you want to appeal to the majority of the readers, you have to use cliched and overused, dull characters because everyone can relate to them. It's hard to relate to a character that is the sole survivor of a "The Village" style setting that he only remembered from his youth, while living as a servant to rich people... you just don't. Instead, you spend more time in those stories explaining the character and why he's so weird and unusual to everyone else in the world.

But anyways, I do hope Noal Whyte much luck and fun in your writing. Writing is fun, and it's why I suggest people take a weird idea in their head and just either scribble it on paper or type some stuff up in notepad. You'd be amazed at the type of stuff you'd come up with... including the different characters you'd want to interact with your character that wouldn't.

And, Nolan, I do read every installment (including starting this one altogether after I felt that In The Van ended on a down note) and I keep reading to see how you progress. Unlike you, I don't share my writing. I have two books written, but unread, and stories and are flegling ideas, shelved and waiting. I'm not as much a writer as you, and therefore probably not a good one because I've only had myself for feedback.

Good luck.

POSTED: 12/08/2007 - 10:39 pm / quote |
blazingchaz :
Damn, I waited so much for this. I check UG atleast 10 times a day, everyday for this. Post quicker if you can!
POSTED: 12/09/2007 - 01:40 am / quote |
simonzwaan :
I agree with Qasur.
lol
pretty good story

POSTED: 12/09/2007 - 05:06 pm / quote |
Paul Carbonella :
I read this because I thought it was about Buckethead and Joe Satriani having gay sex and now I'm very dissapointed.
POSTED: 12/09/2007 - 10:34 pm / quote |
redtheovich1114 :
dude u should write a book with all of this
POSTED: 12/10/2007 - 05:16 pm / quote |
Inferno11 :
some gangsta guitar players hahahah!! that would be hilarious but sweet!
POSTED: 12/10/2007 - 06:17 pm / quote |
es_kraken :
and i always thought u had to make major tuning adjustments to play "seven nation army"...
POSTED: 12/10/2007 - 11:21 pm / quote |
KingGohma :
Paul Carbonella wrote:

I read this because I thought it was about Buckethead and Joe Satriani having gay sex and now I'm very dissapointed.


Alas, you're not the only one.

POSTED: 12/10/2007 - 11:29 pm / quote |
ohjam63 :
Qasur and Insectsamongus,
While skimming through both your posts I realized that while I completely agree with you both I just don't have the patience to skim through 250 words of bullshit to find the 10 words that actually make up your critique.

POSTED: 12/12/2007 - 04:29 am / quote |
Jimmypagerulez! :
Good story, you should publish it when your'e done. Why didn't you put Led Zeppelin in too?
hitting Floyd, Bowie, The Stones, CCR, The Animals and The Kinks, jamming through a dozen good cover tunes.

POSTED: 12/13/2007 - 02:00 pm / quote |
Jimmypagerulez! :
To Qasar: You do have a point, but still, what do you want him to do? Not have him join the band? Most stories are pretty expected, so why don't you take your own novels and shove them up your ass?
POSTED: 12/13/2007 - 02:06 pm / quote |
captainbigwave :
Jimmypagerulez! wrote:

Good story, you should publish it when your'e done. Why didn't you put Led Zeppelin in too? hitting Floyd, Bowie, The Stones, CCR, The Animals and The Kinks, jamming through a dozen good cover tunes.


Haha dude, don't ya know? You never cover Led Zeppelin

POSTED: 12/13/2007 - 10:21 pm / quote |
Nor'Easterbass :
i love all the people dissing his style calling it flat and other BS. If you're so good, how come your stories aren't in here, a55holes?
POSTED: 12/16/2007 - 03:39 pm / quote |
krumpinjugger :
awesome stuff
POSTED: 03/17/2008 - 04:17 am / quote |
xFinnellx :
i stilll dont know all the names. all i know is danny and jay so far
POSTED: 07/09/2008 - 03:59 am / quote |
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