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How The Heroes Have Fallen...

author: ohmerrymayhem date: 06/21/2005 category: junkyard
rating: 9 / votes: 172 

So I was watching TV the other day. One of the big name music channels, though I won't say which one, and reading a guitar magazine. My attention was ripped viciously from the magazine by a single note. This sound, which emanated with all the confidence of a seasoned vocalist, from my TV, made me physically hurt.

The name of the band doesn't matter really. The fact is that there are many other bands out there like this. What was once a spot filled with people who were able, had to be able, to belt it out or at least hit the notes, is now in turn filled with half experienced "vocalists" who would rather rush ahead and go beyond their means. Eschewing many hours of hard and strenuous practice, choosing instead to hawk their half-skills to the most likely paycheck, has become all too common in the once proud world of music.

Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate any contribution to the music community in one way or another. True, these artists are gettin their point across, conveying their heartfelt emotions. Well, some of them are. Others just hide behind the veil of the meaningful.

Or maybe I'm just cynical.

It's not only singers. Guitarists, once again infatuated with late 80's shred and thrash, pick and dive bomb beyond their ability. Rather than woodshed for a good amount of time and hone their skills, they run out fool-heartedly to try their hand at the game of speed. Or imitate someone else.

As a metal fan, I was whole-heartedly excited when the likes of Killswitch Engage, Lamb Of God, and Shadows Fall pierced the thick skin of moderately mainstream media. I applauded. As a guitarist myself, it was refreshing to see a group of guys who had ability on their instruments. Arpeggios, pentatonic licks, massive slides and divebombs. They take skill, no matter what we really think of showmanship. While I myself am not an advocate of gratuitous soloing, I can appreciate talent when I hear it.

Much to my shagrin, not even weeks later, the market had been fully saturated with bands who reeked of those three bands.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, true enough. But music is not standard. It is not the norm, the exception, or the rule. Music is the sum of four or five (or more, as Slipknot and numerous Jam Bands have shown us) independant minds that come together, forsaking their one track approach to music in the hopes of creating something more.

In the hopes of creating something new.

Where have our heroes gone, when Metallica hire a group therapist to sort out their arguments? Isn't a difference of opinions or tastes what sparks great and new things?

Where are the heroes when we can destroy a song that was just barely written at all because we have to play faster without putting in the hours?

Where have our heroes gone when a musicians life has become such a market commodity that there are bands pushed down our throats on TV and Radio, new in one week, and in the next gone just as quickly as they'd swooped in on a fabricated hope?

Where have our heroes gone now? I give you your answer.

Our heroes are in their parents' basements, in the attics and dingy clubs that stink of piss and beer. They're in the highschools and colleges. They're living at home and across oceans.

And they're waiting, just waiting, to find those other pieces that complement their one piece so well.

In hopes of an agreeance of minds, a meeting of tastes, a glimpse of the fantastic. In search of that one chord that leads to the next, and the next, and the next.

After all, who can better write the music we so desire, need, to hear...

But us ourselves?

POSTED: 06/21/2005 - 06:28 am
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comments policy  284  comments posted
     
Lymbe wrote on 06/21/2005 - 03:07 pm / quote |
Dude r u running for president of UG or sth? cause im voting for u
     
afortuneinlies wrote on 06/24/2005 - 07:35 pm / quote |
dude, yeah. there are so many people who think like that(as you can see from the comments on the page) and we try to start bands and get somewhere but...lots of times its just not what is "popular." i myself, want to form a band that doesnt mix all of their favorite genres..play them seperately, sound like a different band in every song but then still have that feel that its still the same guys/girls. if i wanna play southern rock..i'm gonna do it..and if i wanna play black metal, i'm gonna do it. instead of trying to mix the 2 together, i like both. its hard to find people who share that vision. and harder to find people who can do it
     
Slasriani wrote on 06/21/2005 - 02:03 pm / quote |
churchill esque...skillz
     
J_Dizzle wrote on 06/21/2005 - 05:11 pm / quote |
This article ruled, it told everyone that thinks music nowadays sucks to WRITE THEIR OWN FUCKING GOOD MUSIC!!!
     
virginrealities wrote on 06/26/2005 - 07:19 pm / quote |
Nirvana101:
I hate music today, bands like yellowcard, or rap/hip-hop. I wish I could phone in to something like muchmusic (who only plays basically soft rock or rap) and request them to play something by megadeth or metallica. Guaranteed they wouldn't have it or just turn me down.


I phoned MuchMusic seven times to request a Smashing Pumpkins song. They never did play it.

And this is an awesome article. I do like how no names were mentioned, shows maturity. Not to mention it prevents 11 year olds from saying, "lyk omg u said mah fav band sux00rz when deh dont!!!1!!11!!"

And the shitty thing about music today, like you said, is that all the extremely awesome bands are under appreciated. Me, I'm just waiting for Muse or something to take over the world. Hopefully they'll blow the "emo phase" right out of the water, so we can have our heroes back.
     
NikkiSixx440 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 02:14 pm / quote |
What did happen to the good bands?
     
weezer__123 wrote on 06/26/2005 - 05:27 pm / quote |
nice speech. you should make a movie about this.
     
Mombogumbo wrote on 06/22/2005 - 03:33 am / quote |
Tell me in the face of living the good life, retiring your parents, not worrying about bills, etc you would turn it all down because of your love for music.. if so then you are a selfish son of a bitch *spit on your face for not retiring your parents!
     
Zeus2716 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 02:13 pm / quote |
couldn't have been better put, man. 5 stars. love how u didnt just bitch about punk bands.
     
BMAN12688 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 08:09 pm / quote |
all i have to say is.....



www.maniatv.com

but awesome article. realllly nice. ive always said this, thank you for actually putting it out there.
     
backinblack478 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 11:58 am / quote |
Loved it, no better way to put it.
     
Pjking wrote on 06/21/2005 - 11:53 am / quote |
Yeah where have the heroes gone, where?
     
young_is_god wrote on 06/21/2005 - 11:20 am / quote |
seems a long way of telling us what we already new, old music= good players, new bands= band players
     
wanna_lick_me? wrote on 06/21/2005 - 07:51 pm / quote |
*schuif* brought a tear to my eye!! you are indeed a great writer and possesor of a clear and inteligent mind. I salute you, o mighty one!
all hail ohmerrymayhem!!!
     
heyyy wrestler wrote on 06/21/2005 - 07:47 pm / quote |
Worst article ever.
     
stubsywubsy wrote on 06/21/2005 - 07:37 pm / quote |
great article. i agree with all of it 100%
     
MankiiKing wrote on 06/21/2005 - 07:36 pm / quote |
The ending was beautiful dude. Good job, one of the best articles in a while.
     
TheBeast22 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 07:37 pm / quote |
that was so beautiful i think im going to cry
5 stars easily
     
pepsi_home wrote on 06/22/2005 - 03:45 am / quote |
rad dude
     
kurt_was_killed wrote on 06/21/2005 - 06:16 pm / quote |
that was sweet. best article i have ever seen.like that dude above me, im gonna go make a song. its gonna rock man.....
     
falloutboy106 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 09:11 pm / quote |
one of the few non opinionated articles i have seen in a long time. Witty, intellegent and excellently written
     
guitarist163 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 04:12 pm / quote |
Awesome article, and like half the people who have commented already, its nice how you didnt bother flaming pop/punk bands of today to get your points across. 5 STARS!
     
Craigo wrote on 06/21/2005 - 01:30 pm / quote |
This is great... Nice article mate. It's pretty obvious, but it makes you think when someone comes and tells you...
     
Duality666 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 04:13 pm / quote |
How very, very ture...
     
prettylikedrugs wrote on 06/22/2005 - 08:02 am / quote |
sorry Ozzy, you just aren't that hard of a rocker (compared to slipknot, etc.)
wot are u on kidda? you can tell your 13
     
Xeus wrote on 06/21/2005 - 05:39 pm / quote |
thats awesome!

im gonna go grab my guitar and make some good music!
     
Craigo wrote on 06/21/2005 - 01:32 pm / quote |
young_is_god:
seems a long way of telling us what we already new, old music= good players, new bands= band players


No, this is telling us about how the mainstream is full of people who copy each other, bands that are basicly less good versions of the original. Nowhere does it hint that old music was a million times better than the new.

"How Good" is defined by opinion.
     
Guitarist132 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 04:13 pm / quote |
wow, nice article
     
Mombogumbo wrote on 06/22/2005 - 03:30 am / quote |
"The next great band", "Van Helen, Clapton..." blah blah blah it's all about you my friend maybe you should look at it in another perspective, the music out there is selling making millionares of many why is this my friend? Well maybe its because PEOPLE actually enjoy whats out there right now and YOU are the problem (well u know what i mean). We live in a democratic society and MAJORITY rules my friend, im sorry that ur metal bull shit isent appealing to everyone (expecially me)! As for hendrix (BORINGGG..), van helen I cant stand to hear all that yelling, static, man that shit is awful . Flamenco Rules! YEE
     
maggot4life wrote on 06/24/2005 - 06:25 pm / quote |
damn right. 5*s
     
Resiliance wrote on 06/25/2005 - 03:24 pm / quote |
Shut up.
     
Slashfan#1 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 01:26 pm / quote |
The marketing people in the industry today will never allow a hero to emerge because they will not go out and take a chance. It is all about money,image and selling your product. No one gives a shit about the music anymore, well almost anybody.
     
lacey_the_crazy wrote on 06/21/2005 - 01:10 pm / quote |
I liked it, although I believe you spelled "chagrin" wrong. Shagrin? (sounds like some sort of sexual innuendo..). Other than that, nice job. I'm glad you didn't resort to name-calling and blaming random pop-rock bands in order to get your point across, the way a lot of people have.
     
Nirvana101 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 01:50 pm / quote |
I hate music today, bands like yellowcard, or rap/hip-hop. I wish I could phone in to something like muchmusic (who only plays basically soft rock or rap) and request them to play something by megadeth or metallica. Guaranteed they wouldn't have it or just turn me down.
     
coquet wrote on 06/22/2005 - 11:39 am / quote |
what kinda retard thinks ozzy isnt hardcore? i dont remember slipknot eating live bats and biting the head off a chicken.
and did someone really just say hendrix is boring? thats an offense punishable by death in some east asian countries.
     
sex_revolver wrote on 06/22/2005 - 11:53 am / quote |
i still don't see how our heroes have fallen..
     
pinion18 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 07:07 pm / quote |
Not to bring the subject to metallica, but if you recall, the 2 new songs they wrote for S&M, No leaf clover and -Human were both great. I'm hoping now that theyve gotten this St. anger shit out of the way, they'll pick up where they left off making good music. and dont tell me they havent released anything good since AJFA or the black album, i dont want your shit.

Great article, I was just listening to a band a while ago and heard some vocal lines that made me cringe. I also liked how you didnt say what stuff you hated. Classy argument. 5 stars.
     
Bilzzard_of_Ozz wrote on 06/22/2005 - 06:13 pm / quote |
Good article, but Lamb of God and Killswitch Engage metal? Go die, kid.
     
sadistic_monkey wrote on 06/21/2005 - 04:58 pm / quote |
So you don't like some of the music today? That doesn't really mean that music's gone. Believe it or not, those bands will appeal to you, just as the bands you like appeal to you.
     
Clarkinator wrote on 06/26/2005 - 05:03 pm / quote |
yea man best thing i read so far man i hate those shit bands that all sound like the same old crap like the used, my chemical romance and all them. they just guitar player wannabes


You're a bigger wannabe for flaming those bands, asshole. Talk about the article, dont jump in with some yeah, so and so sucks! comment. Retard
     
Scourge441 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 11:14 am / quote |
5 stars solely for not being the archtypal "music now sucks" article


Absolutely.
     
fingerpkngood wrote on 06/22/2005 - 11:45 am / quote |
Great article. Very good points. You said "Rather than woodshed for a good amount of time and hone their skills, they run out fool-heartedly to try their hand at the game of speed." I don't think anyone should ever RUSH it and try to be a sensation overnight or else it just sounds fabricated and unnatural.
     
norwegian_moose wrote on 06/21/2005 - 04:18 pm / quote |
hey, like the article, but would like to say that if Metallica hadn't got a therapist in to help, I doubt they would all be together or alive today.
     
Purple Haze123 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 05:35 pm / quote |
4 1/4 thumbs up!! But seriously, great atricle; really inspirational. I'm probably going to play guitar all night. Forget TV, forget Nintendo, forget malls and that crap, I'll just play guitar. Be on the look out for those musicains that stick out. the ones who don't want to be on TV. the ones who don't want to be on a pair of pants or a pack of incense. The ones that only care about the band and the music. Thats what it's all about.
     
EatsP1es wrote on 06/21/2005 - 11:27 am / quote |
good article!
     
T-6005 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 12:52 pm / quote |
So in conclusion, this article is full of shit. It's a plebeian's attempt at complexity, and it essentially embodies what I despise the most about the type of music glorified on this site - that is, the focus on showmanship to the exclusion of substance within a musical piece.
     
T-6005 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 12:49 pm / quote |
I think that it is really very uninspiring. It essentially says that a "hero" has to be showy, because OBVIOUSLY there can be no beauty in simplicity. There's a level of talent that certain bands perform at that suits them, and those bands have no use for divebombing because it's absolutely useless to them. They don't need to be guitar gods, they just need to be able to play well enough to bring out the tunes that come into their heads.
     
hammett_slash89 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 01:20 pm / quote |
nice article man
     
Alucard II wrote on 06/21/2005 - 07:00 pm / quote |

Where have our heroes gone, when Metallica hire a group therapist to sort out their arguments? Isn't a difference of opinions or tastes what sparks great and new things?
not if that difference of opinions is going to break up a band. altho, sad as it is to say it, a break-up in their case may be for the best.
     
GreGus wrote on 06/22/2005 - 12:35 pm / quote |
brill article, very true, the heroes have fallen, hes putting across that enw heroes just arent getting signed, unlike the tacky bands such as the bravery and the futureheads, yeah congrats to them on a unique sound, but they will not be ever classed as hero status there perfect examples of good with a trend but nothing more
     
DisplacedLogic wrote on 06/25/2005 - 01:08 pm / quote |
There aren't really any Rhandy Rhoads, Tony Iommi's, Jimmy Pages anymore but how can we expect there to be?


Zakk Wylde, Alexi Lahio (spelling?), Ywingie (spelling), Vai, Statrani (spelling, once more)
     
etherealprince wrote on 06/21/2005 - 04:41 pm / quote |
wow. This has to be my favorite article so far. You pointed out that our future heroes are the ones busting their asses in shitty clubs, jamming out in their basements and attics and bedrooms, hoping to find a drummer/guitarist/singer to get together with and make music with meaning and soul. theyre just waiting for their chance, like many of us.
Great job dude, *thumbs up*.
     
RedGibsonSG wrote on 06/22/2005 - 12:00 pm / quote |
Rap doesnt suck. The stuff that is played on the radio does. But that goes for any genre of music. There is always the crap, and the good stuff that no one seems to care about.
But you can not put Nirvana in the same sentence as Old school Metallica or the original GnR
     
painedexpress wrote on 06/25/2005 - 12:07 pm / quote |
Oh and don't forget the article does imply that the true heroes are people who aren't making it big yet, perhaps the next generation of music will bring fresher things or just things that are more clean.
     
nightprowler wrote on 06/25/2005 - 01:49 pm / quote |
Awesome article, I really liked it.
You get 5 golden stars and two thumbs up.

Although, it would make it easier to create great music if we had better people to look up to... instead all we get are the bands that "will not be mentioned." By the way, not mentioning the things you hate shows a lot more maturity than most people here have, including me.
     
piper182 wrote on 06/25/2005 - 05:35 pm / quote |
good article
     
bassguru wrote on 06/22/2005 - 10:57 am / quote |
Well put, this article just makes me realise why i listen to bands such as Iron Maiden and Metallica so much..... beacause they are heros
     
Tim_5150 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 08:57 pm / quote |
nice article. i hope this pushes the "jimi Hemdrixs'" of the future to pop up!!!
     
Clarkinator wrote on 06/26/2005 - 05:07 pm / quote |
Oh also something funny, the guy who I just quoted ^^ is a Linkin Park fan...THEY'RE not wannabes and lame guitar. Earth to you Tom, MCR's guitarists and Quinn whateverhoisnameis of The Used own the "guitar playing" of Linkin Park.

Sorry to get away from the article, just had to flame the 12 year old who made that comment in hopes to eliminate future moronic (is that a word?) comments.
     
the glue man wrote on 06/21/2005 - 03:58 pm / quote |
whoa i almost cryed. good job.
     
HamBoy10 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 04:32 pm / quote |
awesome. one of my favorite articles. no reason to explain, it's already there.
     
liam177lewis wrote on 06/21/2005 - 03:42 pm / quote |
so true
     
painedexpress wrote on 06/25/2005 - 12:03 pm / quote |
A lot of different forms of music are dying. Some of the greatest talents on guitar are in the past and many of them aren't really planning to make new cd's but just touring around or doing commercials (like BB King). There aren't really any Rhandy Rhoads, Tony Iommi's, Jimmy Pages anymore but how can we expect there to be? Many things have been done on guitar, most can just barely get by without completely imitating their favorite guitarist. Most people with skill are doing things that other people don't like anyway. While I love metal and rock even today's metal and rock I listen to nearly every form of music. To be honest the instrumentals that other forms of music have are at times far superior to rock and metal. Though the current types of pop don't really hold a candle to metal and rock. Things have changed, perhaps being off-key and having incredibly sloppy playing is the in thing?
     
P.B. wrote on 06/21/2005 - 09:55 am / quote |
couldn't agree with you more.
we can't sit here and bitch about 'bad music'.
get out there and create what you think is 'good music'. join a band already.
     
Smasher wrote on 06/21/2005 - 07:38 am / quote |
Man your right.
     
JewMasatFlex wrote on 06/21/2005 - 08:16 am / quote |
wow, never really thought about it. but your right. being that im 13, i realized that rock isnt what it used to be. think about it, the heavy metal of the past was Ozzy. Looking at that, compared to todays heavy metal, sorry Ozzy, you just aren't that hard of a rocker (compared to slipknot, etc.)

awesome article!
     
kidwizz88 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 08:16 am / quote |
gave me goosebumps lol, nice article
     
kornrules09 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 08:36 am / quote |
I love how you didn't mention names of things you hate. Great article.
     
FLESH_INTO_GEAR wrote on 06/21/2005 - 08:53 am / quote |
not sure i totally understand what this article is about
     
Flowerpot wrote on 06/21/2005 - 08:53 am / quote |
Are you running for president or something?
That was a great speech! Rally the troops!
     
RememberMyName wrote on 06/21/2005 - 08:56 am / quote |
It'll be hard for this article to get any bad comments, as there wasn't much that was openly criticised (except for Metallica. Hell, I'm a massive Metallica fan, but that therapist was a waste of time, money and patience). This guy must live...
     
clwy87 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 09:19 am / quote |
so true...
     
ChurchPunk wrote on 06/21/2005 - 09:20 am / quote |
Agreed. Nice article.
     
punkgtrst096 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 09:42 am / quote |
Exceptionally well written article.
     
tearjerkerrhcp wrote on 06/21/2005 - 10:04 am / quote |
Woooo gather up the troops were gonna kill all these shitty bands and make way for some of the good bands that will otherwise never make it!!!..AHHH..!!! Great article
     
Freepower wrote on 06/21/2005 - 10:19 am / quote |
Great article, hoenstly.
     
dk2906 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 10:53 am / quote |
Our heroes are in their parents' basements, in the attics and dingy clubs that stink of piss and beer. They're in the highschools and colleges. They're living at home and across oceans.

Amen, man. Shame it has to be that way. I'd stay that way, as long as I still had my artist credibility and honor.
     
Captain Colon wrote on 06/21/2005 - 10:59 am / quote |
5 starts solely for not being the archtypal "music now sucks" article
     
nightrune wrote on 06/21/2005 - 11:03 am / quote |
dude gave me goosebumps i have only two words to say "f*** yeah"
     
Benesyed wrote on 06/21/2005 - 12:25 pm / quote |
Where have all the hereoes gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the heroes gone?
Long time passing
Label execs have picked them.....
....a hell this song sucks

Good article!
     
ollerom_mot wrote on 06/21/2005 - 12:48 pm / quote |
good article (though it sounds like a speech) in comparison with previous ones, as others have already mentioned how it doesn't bitch about how bad music is these days. What it's saying is good, but I don't feel it's particularly informative, as if it's kinda stating the obvious. But maybe that's just me, everyone else loves it!
     
RedlightningYes wrote on 06/21/2005 - 12:52 pm / quote |
I still treasure the heroes, hell I'm getting my hands on vinyl originals
     
Lacquer_Head wrote on 06/21/2005 - 12:55 pm / quote |
great article.. weird cause ive been thinking about this and the last couple of lines sounds like something i said to myself the whole time
     
Bmm386 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 12:57 pm / quote |
were you preaching for the last few paragraphs?
     
black_sabbath85 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 09:21 pm / quote |
WAAAOOO...
Very well said. This is what i call a proper article.
Superb.
Are you an english language prof?? poet??
     
Spydr wrote on 06/22/2005 - 07:35 am / quote |
Yeah it sounds like a speech, I just wanted to stand up and cheer :P yeah most music these days suck, just wait till I get famous and Mombogumbo you're an idiot, i could elaborate but there really is no need cuz it's pretty obvious and I will never become famous playing crap music even if it's offered to me, there are musicians out there in mainstream music that have a lot of talent, John Mayer and Los Lonely Boys to name some. Music is all about the love not about the money ne one who says otherwise should be shot, it would do our society a sh*t load of good.
     
ohmerrymayhem wrote on 06/21/2005 - 10:19 pm / quote |
I'll try to answer as many of the questions as I can.. haha.. So firstly, no I'm not running for president of anything.. Although come to think of it... I'm not an english professor, but I am a writer of fiction novels, as well as a full time musician (guitarist/vocalist) and lyricist. Thanks for all the positve responses to my article. It's my first, so I was hesitant to send it in. Glad I inspired some of you, glad the most agreed. It's a reassuring thing to know that there are still musicians out there who do it for the love of it. I'll be doing more articles in the future. Again, thanks for the support. - J
     
SickMetal wrote on 06/21/2005 - 10:28 pm / quote |
Decent article, but points off for thinking Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall, and Lamb of God are metal.
     
hammettrocks wrote on 06/21/2005 - 10:31 pm / quote |
that was beautiful!! hahaha....
     
Metallica420 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 10:39 pm / quote |
Amen brother say it again dear lord!!!Fuck yeah man that article was great bro though i don't agree with the metallica comment i think they're still goin strong man but i give this article five stars bro.
Peace
     
PlanetTelex wrote on 06/21/2005 - 11:14 pm / quote |
Amazing article. Finally, someone who doesn't just bitch about pop punk power chord playing bands. I think bands today are in it mainly for alot of money really quickly with less effort than is required. I agree with every word you said.
     
guitarkid27 wrote on 06/21/2005 - 11:15 pm / quote |
I am looking for the other perfect pieces.
     
coquet wrote on 06/22/2005 - 02:32 am / quote |
we used to have hendrix, clapton (when he was still hardcore), and van halen.
now we have...well, ill get back to you on that.
great article.
     
milk_it_good wrote on 06/22/2005 - 03:05 am / quote |
Excellent article!!! Philosophical, well-structured, impartial and INSPIRING!!! Keep this awesome juice flowing! Five thumbs up!
     
haunted_soul wrote on 06/22/2005 - 01:46 am / quote |
nice article man.

its sad but true ... rock is dying .. seriously is .. all thats left is cheesy pop punk/emo bands..

unless theres a big rock revival its going to seriously fade away and all we'll have is the past .. on the rolling stones playing in their nursing homes :p
     
ProjectDark wrote on 06/22/2005 - 02:09 am / quote |
Wow nice article it was very meaningful and so true
     
 redwing_suck   m   wrote on 06/22/2005 - 02:15 am / quote |
Very good article.
     
Diceman42 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 12:04 am / quote |
i was gonna post somethign related to the article when i saw this:
SickMetal:
Decent article, but points off for thinking Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall, and Lamb of God are metal.

IS THERE NO PLEASING YOU PEOPLE!?
     
T-6005 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 12:22 am / quote |
Stupid article. 1 Star, only because there's no 0 stars.
     
MetallicFallout wrote on 06/22/2005 - 12:47 am / quote |
^Dick...

Great Article, 5 stars for for puting a voice out there.
     
RedGibsonSG wrote on 06/22/2005 - 09:22 am / quote |
I agree with all of this. But what if music was the same as it was in the 70's.
That would mean the 80's, 90's and earlier 2000's would all be the same. It'd be 35 years of the same music, over and over. And everyone would sound the same, and people would still be complaining.
And yea...to that 13 y/o..."being that im 13, i realized that rock isnt what it used to be." No offense, but how do you know what it used to be?
     
xdespairfactor wrote on 06/22/2005 - 10:09 am / quote |
First of which, great article. It truely makes me want to show my creativity. It's very inspiring.

Second, quit hassling the kid.
     
ohmerrymayhem wrote on 06/22/2005 - 01:00 pm / quote |
Just to clarify, technical ability (eg. playing fast, flashy, shred.. which i've said in the article Ii'm NOT a fan of) is not what makes a good player. The ability to write a song is what I am getting at as being most overlooked here. True, the skill level has gone down dramatically, but skill is not limited to speed or music theory. Songwriting is a skill, as is assembling a group of songs which work cohesively to form a well written album. Read over my thoughts again. I only made mention of shred to say that, while I appreciate the skill it takes to do it, I don't prefer it.
     
ohmerrymayhem wrote on 06/22/2005 - 01:01 pm / quote |
Without taking offense, T, please understand that you've misinterpreted my article. In the end, though, this is good. I was somewhat concerned that it attracted no critisizm...
     
ohmerrymayhem wrote on 06/22/2005 - 01:08 pm / quote |
Oh, just for the record.... It's plebeian, not plebian, and a plebeian is someone "Of, belonging to, or characteristic of commoners." So you're saying that you're better than those of us on here, or me, because you have a difference of opinion? That's somewhat egotistical. Just thought I'd put that out there..
     
Metallica12_12 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 01:28 pm / quote |
ohmerrymayhem, your article is very true, but you would have to admit that people who like the bands such as Linkin Park would have a difficulty truely understanding what you have said. The heroes of the past are gone, and the last generation has come up short. I can only hope that people of my generation can become the musical heroes that are so despritly needed.
     
devl child wrote on 06/22/2005 - 04:57 pm / quote |
awsome article
lots of truth in the end
5/5
     
Tea+Patrol wrote on 06/22/2005 - 02:45 pm / quote |
GREAT FREAKIN ARTICLE!!!.. Thank you!!! Thank you!!!
Thank you!!! Hopefully all the young heads in here will grasp this and run...practice...and be good at their instrument. To much time Is spent on what you look like while playing your pathetic power chords in drop d!! Bravo man...Bravo!!!
     
darkstar9814 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 02:57 pm / quote |
i think i love you. awesome article.
     
psychodelia wrote on 06/22/2005 - 03:07 pm / quote |
Nice article.

All the pieces of a band don't have to be perfect though. If a guy has fantastic songwriting ability, then even if he doesn't have a great range his message will still get across (Bob Dylan, Neil Young, etc.).

Still, I get what you mean, especially the part about playing fast without putting the work in.
     
dancing_jesus wrote on 06/22/2005 - 03:40 pm / quote |
best article yet
5 stars(if only there were more)
     
timmah099 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 03:51 pm / quote |
Omg dude, this article kicked ass. I think this is the first time an article didnt turn into a Genre war, thats how i like it I also like how you didnt just burn on all the punk bands, i myself am a fan of punk and mainly just every other sub-genre that falls under rock so i 100% agree on you with all of it. 5 stars!
     
Rocks Saviour wrote on 06/22/2005 - 04:55 pm / quote |
Well written but the bands you listed are NOT metal. The fact is there ARE heroes out there now, with record deals, all you have to do is look further than TV. I've found a lot of metal bands, old blues artists and classical/baroque composers that never ever get on TV and I absolutely love their stuff.
People are complaining "where have the heroes gone?" well they're still here, just not in the common media. If you'd went out and looked for music instead of waiting for it to be shoved in your face you'd realise what I mean. You have a great style of writing but the content of it was invalid.
Also a lot of people just enjoy playing guitar and don't feel the need to write songs, they learn to increase their skills to play the music they love and thus should not be criticised for doing nothing but trying to get better.
     
ToesKa wrote on 06/22/2005 - 04:36 pm / quote |
which band do you mean :P

great articleee
     
kerrang wrote on 06/22/2005 - 06:51 pm / quote |
always a good topic. exceptionally well writtin. im suprised we aint got the constant "that was shite because you didnt mention my favourite band in there" great way to start it also. "so i was watchin t.v. the other day" possibly the most heard phrase other than "have you ever seen the episode of the simpsons where..."
I liked it. Very true how all of the best musicians out there are wasted in some piss-poor highschool band trying to make it big as a good charlotte tribute band. our next hendrix or SRV is sittin in his basement strumming chords so complicated it would make the likes of you and me give up guitar.
On a final note, i have seen alot of comments on what lamb of god and killswitch arent. somebody mind enlightening us what they are? and if i hear death/nu/heavy metal its time to larf; there all the same thing-its like having a different genere for every band.
     
inunion wrote on 06/22/2005 - 06:55 pm / quote |
you're a genius
     
Purem8 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 07:05 pm / quote |
^ agreed.
Thought about being a journalist?
Great twist on the world of rock.
Try writing us some articles on what you think to be
some of the best bands of old, and maybe something on
newer bands. I'd love to read it.

-Ryan-
     
Bluejay451 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 07:08 pm / quote |
You guys who keep saying "Blah Blah Blah" aren't metal are missing the point.

Anyway, I think the reason there are no heroes is just because of a shift in trends. There are still Hendrix's and Page's out there, they just aren't "Hendrix's and Page's" because that's not the mainstream music right now, whereas in the 70's, if you didn't listen to Zep you were nobody (or so my dad says anyway )

That said, it was a hell of an article. Very inspirational. The end honestly gave me goosebumps. Just a few now, but still...
     
Jack3n665.5 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 07:53 pm / quote |
That wasa great article. I loved how it didnt bag on all music, was inspirational and all that. Yeah I too was watching Fuse or Mtv and then a bunch of metal core/grind core screamers all came on who ALL sounded the same. I really hate it when they do that. I think that music is original and when you do it like everyone else it loses its sincerety.
Really though I do still watch MTV occasionally bercause I can stilll catch some AudioSlave or Shadows FAll.
     
wookieonfire wrote on 06/22/2005 - 09:35 pm / quote |
someone finally hits the nail on the head, my hats off to you man
     
wookieonfire wrote on 06/22/2005 - 09:37 pm / quote |
if you want some good metal like he/she recommends listen to A7X's new CD
     
askurmoran wrote on 06/22/2005 - 09:46 pm / quote |
man great article man 5 stars probably the best article to ever be on UG only thing is that people are misinterpreting or being pricks cough..cough..gotjackbass2..cough..cough
     
The Master Plan wrote on 06/23/2005 - 12:29 am / quote |
Awesome Article well worthy of 5 stars
     
DK_guitarman wrote on 06/22/2005 - 10:21 pm / quote |
lame...1/5
     
blinkjared2 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 10:38 pm / quote |
coquet:
what kinda retard thinks ozzy isnt hardcore? i dont remember slipknot eating live bats and biting the head off a chicken.
and did someone really just say hendrix is boring? thats an offense punishable by death in some east asian countries.

wow u are soooo funny. how bout listening to music that isn't just cool to like?
     
ANGERisaGIFT wrote on 06/22/2005 - 10:49 pm / quote |
The only person to say "New Music Sucks"... and then successfuly expain themlselves. 5 stars from me.
     
pozzobon13 wrote on 06/22/2005 - 11:20 pm / quote |
Sick article dude.
     
fat-ass-pidgeon wrote on 06/23/2005 - 12:04 am / quote |
Red GibsonSG:I agree with all of this. But what if music was the same as it was in the 70's.
That would mean the 80's, 90's and earlier 2000's would all be the same. It'd be 35 years of the same music, over and over.
You are right. what i think ohmerrymeyhem is trying to say is not to have the same music being played over and over for 35 years, but rather, making new interesting music. As for my comments on this article, it is the exactlythe way I view modern music. I am a bluesman but I can't say that I can fight anybody who plays music as a true musician even if they don't dig the same stuff I do.
     
gonzosrevenge55 wrote on 06/23/2005 - 01:09 am / quote |
great article. well worth the read. i'd say there's a few guitar heroes out there. tom morello (as much as i didn't like ratm), is one of them. granted, he tends to show his skill by being a constant innovator with his effects (as opposed speed oriented solos), but that in itself takes dedication to the art.
the mars volta, while not at the top of the charts do some pretty crazy stuff. the nice thing about all that pop-punk is that so many people hate it enough to inspire them to learn a couple more scales and chords.
     
Zosorocker1 wrote on 06/23/2005 - 01:31 am / quote |
Excellent article, finally someone isn't just spewing crap out of there mouths. And by the way i agree with you fully about the imitation that music is succumb to. It seems that whenever and new band that has creative talent comes out they give them there own unique genre, and they shove a bunch of Jizmopper bands in with them. Its happening to everything in our generation and especially in this decade. Movies, TV, Video games, what happened to the oh-so creative generation I used to love.
     
gonzosrevenge55 wrote on 06/23/2005 - 01:33 am / quote |
and i know i'm taking up space, but i have to address the whole "art of simplicity" bull that people use to defend pop-punk. simple does not equal easy. instead of powerchords, why not 7'ths? why not add9? why not diminished? the sound is simple, but knowing different chords allows a greater ability to express emotion. learning an eastern scale can really make a song sound different, and interesting. you can still play basic punk rhythms and solos with these, but odds are that the only ones who could tell the difference would be actual guitarists.
     
Encore_God wrote on 06/23/2005 - 05:07 am / quote |
Stop talking about it and and f**king do something about it!
     
Kappa wrote on 06/23/2005 - 06:54 am / quote |
Oh my god, this world is so evil. We're always terrorised by bands, who can't play "Smoke On The Water". It's such a cruel world, I will kill myself at once.
Quit your whining, no one cares.
     
numetaldude wrote on 06/23/2005 - 06:56 am / quote |
i can tell you're really into writing as much as you're into music. and this is a well-written piece, not full of grammatical and spelling mistakes and useless profanity like most of the articles on UG!
     
bootyguard wrote on 06/23/2005 - 11:21 am / quote |
Very well written. save this as a speech for high school graduation. All the musicians that realize that most bands today aren't very talented as they used to be in the past will feel inspired to take out their axe on the spot and just start ripping out a solo for you. WOOH!
     
loserkid013 wrote on 06/23/2005 - 11:57 am / quote |
i agree with most of the stuff said in this article. i think that people should stop complaining about the state of today's music, and maybe turn off their tv and actually play their guitar. you seem like a smart and mature person (you don't say "___.. sucks" for no apparent reason). good article. if you have more to say, i'd be appreciated.
     
strider_hein wrote on 06/23/2005 - 12:15 pm / quote |
todays music in a nutshell
i have more to say but no time to say it.
     
T-6005 wrote on 06/23/2005 - 02:09 pm / quote |
Excuse me, ohmerrymayhem, but if you read my comment carefully, you may have noticed that I did indeed make use of the word "plebeian" in its correct spelling. I made use of the word within the historical context that the aforementioned section of the population tend to use words beyond their ability, while attempting to create an effect that I can find no other way to describe than "false drama". Sounds like you tried to mix the inspirational speeches of Martin Luther King Jr. with the short, blunt one liners that made Hemingway famous. I'll give you points for the "veil of the meaningful" though. Good line. Unfortunately, you've lost those points by spelling "chagrin" wrong. Please use spell check.

About the article itself?

"Eschewing many hours of hard and strenuous practice, choosing instead to hawk their half-skills to the most likely paycheck, has become all too common in the once proud world of music."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems to be a direct comment on the level of skill present rather than the songwriting abilities of a certain person. Not that I will disagree that the more skill, the better - I just do not believe, as you seem to state within your article, notably through the line "it was refreshing to see a group of guys who had ability on their instruments" that a lack of skill detracts from the music.

One more thing - It's "independent". Not "independant".

Other than that? I look forward to reading your next article, provided that the style is slightly looser.
     
T-6005 wrote on 06/23/2005 - 02:10 pm / quote |
I'll admit to having partly misinterpreted the article though.
     
T-6005 wrote on 06/23/2005 - 02:24 pm / quote |
Excuse me, ohmerrymayhem, but if you read my comment carefully, you may have noticed that I did indeed make use of the word "plebeian" in its correct spelling. I made use of the word within the historical context that the aforementioned section of the population tend to use words beyond their ability, while attempting to create an effect that I can find no other way to describe than "false drama". Sounds like you tried to mix the inspirational speeches of Martin Luther King Jr. with the short, blunt one liners that made Hemingway famous. I'll give you points for the "veil of the meaningful" though. Good line. Unfortunately, you've lost those points by spelling "chagrin" wrong. Please use spell check.

About the article itself?

"Eschewing many hours of hard and strenuous practice, choosing instead to hawk their half-skills to the most likely paycheck, has become all too common in the once proud world of music."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems to be a direct comment on the level of skill present rather than the songwriting abilities of a certain person. Not that I will disagree that the more skill, the better - I just do not believe, as you seem to state within your article, notably through the line "it was refreshing to see a group of guys who had ability on their instruments" that a lack of skill detracts from the music.

One more thing - It's "independent". Not "independant".

Other than that? I look forward to reading your next article, provided that the style is slightly looser.
     
natekc18 wrote on 06/23/2005 - 02:53 pm / quote |
Dude, awesome article...all i have to say is ROCK ON \M/ \M/
     
Mr Fevpump wrote on 06/23/2005 - 02:59 pm / quote |
I listen to classic rock and the "Makers" and "Originators" (hendrix, clapton, page...) of the classic rock genre and i have to say their music is the best rock and roll hands down. Those guitarist new exactly how to put their feeligns and emotions down into their instrument and write orginal stuff new stuff that revolutionized the ENTIRE genre like Jimi Hendrix he completely change things in the rock and roll scene... clapton showed us that an instrument is just like a voice you put your feelings and emotions through it to make beautiful melodies... we need more bands to bring new stuff to the table of rock. New bands today hell i'll admit i like alot of them (blink 182, Sum 41 etc.) It just somtimes hits me that usually they are just new drum beats behind a different pattern of palm muted power chords for the verse and the same pattern "Un-palm muted" for the chorus. ANd then i'll put on some GnR or Led Zeppelin and listen to the songs with orginal work orignal tunes, melodies, solo's, and appregios. Not every thing has to be palm muted or power-chordish. Bands like System of a Down and Linkin Park are truly some great bands because they dont write the same "patterns" in all their songs they write original intro's verse's and its all different. thats what i call the "varity of Rock N' Roll" Well.. Nice article man i agree with you! I'm sure it opend some minds to what rock was and what it is now.
     
ndat wrote on 06/23/2005 - 06:26 pm / quote |
Wow, your a good writer, a really good writer.
     
Guitarist132 wrote on 06/23/2005 - 09:26 pm / quote |
I don't even like metal but i think this is a really good article
     
metalnazi7 wrote on 06/23/2005 - 11:27 pm / quote |
good job bro
     
DownForLife97 wrote on 06/24/2005 - 12:28 am / quote |
I applaud this article. You're a brilliant writer. It is up to all of us to fill the void of guitar heroes, because no one is going to do it for us, and before we know it, we will be the generation that our children are looking up to for guidance. Let us give it to them just like we had heroes.
     
johnnybgoode wrote on 06/24/2005 - 01:17 am / quote |
excellent article! You really sum up the way i've been feeling for a while now. You exceed as a writer and in knowledge of music as a whole. I look forward to your next article and just liked to say im gettin all psyched up to rock!
     
chocolatemilk wrote on 06/24/2005 - 01:35 am / quote |
it really makes me sad to look at this article and say "yep, you're totally right." because you are. The same little heroes that we have today like Tom Morello, yngwie, vai, are getting older everyday. all we're getting now is the same crap. I don't care what kind of music it is. And yes, the best guitarists are the ones that are going to be practicing right now, in their parents basement, wishing they could show people what they could do if given the chance to shine. We as guitarists have to stand up to the challenge and become our own guitar hero before there are none left.
     
adriansmith82 wrote on 06/24/2005 - 04:33 am / quote |
slipknot, korn, etc new metal bands? so we'll compare with 80's metal movement? so I now why metallica fall down
     
Acoustix wrote on 06/24/2005 - 07:01 am / quote |
Yea!! Totally Cool Article And A ToTaLLy Right One!!
     
whatne1wuddo wrote on 06/24/2005 - 12:10 pm / quote |
rock doens thave to be what it used to be. so what, your genre changed, get over it. just because you dont like it doesnt mean that it doesnt appeal to more people in different ways. the music now and the music back then is completely different, no one can judge skill and talent, it's all opinion.

i personally think metal blows, and that shredding is nothing short of obnoxious, but i dont tell the world that. so now you are going to say i have no taste in music. well, i have just enough of a reason to say you have no taste in music. its a useless arguement because its all based on opinions, and 99% of the time opinions cant be changed.

if you werent closed minded you would see this happens in everything. like rap for instance. in the early '90s it was all gangsta rap like dre, biggy, pac who hit the mainstream. now its people like chingy and 50 cent. its a different form of rap, and people need to accept that genres change and evolve. it isnt like you cant buy your great metallica or megadeath album anymore, and if you dont like all the new bands, you dont have to listen to them. thats the great thing about music. everyone can have an opinion, and none of them matter.

argue and diss me on aim: whatne1wuddo
     
whatne1wuddo wrote on 06/24/2005 - 12:14 pm / quote |
also, i am open to, and enjoy a few megadeath and metallica songs, along w/ some other metal. so i cant say i hate metal, but in general, i dont like all the soloing and vocals.

yes, metal vocals bother me more than the high pitched squealy ones of today- another example of an opinion.
and my opinion is just as valid as yours, and yours as mine.
read my comments closely, dont jump to conclusions. and if you're an immature 15 year old, refraim from commenting
     
costa94 wrote on 06/24/2005 - 12:51 pm / quote |
wow i dont havce any words...dude u are my f**** hero i love u haha i would giveu a million stars if i could, u took the words right out of my mouth,turned them into a beutiful poem and got it right.....when i listen to the old stuff like mettalica,rush,hendrix, and some of the new stuff liek dream theater and children of bodom,...i get a feeling that everyone should get when listening to something they love, and thats when u know its fresh and original...its sad..becuz rock is dying these days...but i think this guy is trying to give us one last hint of how to get rock back on top and that is to take ur time,practice,practice,practice, and have the songs u make come from the heart and take time and put eveyything uve got into every note....i think thats what makes a tru guitar hero...and guys wtf stop being cunts,those bands are metal and i love al 3 of em so lick ma balls
     
TheMutts wrote on 06/24/2005 - 02:13 pm / quote |
2 thumbs up!
     
sanow7 wrote on 06/24/2005 - 02:30 pm / quote |
very nice, I might cry now
     
DisplacedLogic wrote on 06/24/2005 - 03:12 pm / quote |
I bow to you. Not only have you called the wrath of the Gods of Guitar to smite the little pussies who pose guitar, but you have opened a HELL of a lot of peoples eyes to musical talents. I bow to you.
     
DisplacedLogic wrote on 06/24/2005 - 03:26 pm / quote |
On second thought, T, you sound a little to... over critical. And what the hell is up with double posting? It's old school, and shows a lack of developmental skill. And next, please, T, in your next post, don't rip any more ass with corrections or political statements. As long as the point gets across without and HUGE mistakes or that leet typing shit.
     
The_Next_Flea18 wrote on 06/24/2005 - 04:49 pm / quote |
Extremely well written article...cheers.
     
#1 nirvana fan wrote on 06/24/2005 - 09:53 pm / quote |
i was a little annoyed at the non- mentioning of names, but it was a nice article. im always criticizing bands that all sound the same.i get hints really easily, and i guess this hint is "go start a band that is original".
     
adeez wrote on 06/24/2005 - 10:35 pm / quote |
I agree that the ideas are what counts and I certainly am not one to critique simply out of foolishness or pride, but I kind of have to laugh that so many posters have graciously complimented the writer's ability and style. While there is nothing wrong with it stylistically, the article is full of sentence fragments. In reading it, I felt that the separation of one sentence from the next was completely arbitrary. It really detracted from the flow of ideas in some parts.

Good thoughts and good attitude, but I also find it a bit overwhelming that so many posters claim to have been "enlightened" or "given a chance to finally realize" something about the state of affiars in music today.

Lastly, to the fellow that used the word "plebeian": how pretentious and unintelligent can you get?
     
poontastic wrote on 06/25/2005 - 12:55 am / quote |
well written, and stirring. Even better if you read it.
One of the best articles i have read on music, period.
You took a good standpoint, and wrote without bias.
5 stars
     
Clarkinator wrote on 06/25/2005 - 02:21 am / quote |
Well-written and such, would make a good speech. Everyone is forgetting something though...you can only do SO MUCH with rock music and such, its so much harder for bands to be original today than back in the 60's...for the simple fact that before those 60's bands, there pretty much wasn't anything. The more into the future we go, the less originality there will be, which yes, does suck, but its also just something that has to happen. For every extremely original idea and music produced, well that just decreases ones odds of not copying. I hope this makes sense...
     
allenm wrote on 06/25/2005 - 02:26 am / quote |
whew. i dont know. it was alrite i guess. i guess my point of view is not that music today isn't as good as it used to be, but that popular music today isn't as good as it used to be. in the 60's and 70's, the really good rock and folk bands were quite popular and accessible. but today, i can't even stand to watch a music video show. for every decent song tht comes on, i have to mute 10 or 20.

but that doesn't mean that good music isn't around. it's just more difficult to find. all you need to do is put in the effort. look to your local bands and support them. in australia bands do not have a lot of trouble making a living because there is a national radio station that plays a lot of unknown music. you keep going on about how the next guitar hero is sitting in his basement waiting for a chance to shine, well who do you think that chance will come from? not the record companies, it is up to you to find and support them.

i get where you are coming from though.

i'm sorry to say that i was also a little put off because i can't stand metal. sorry. i respect the skill of the musicians (but not the vocalists), but i just can't stand it, i have to mute or turn off whenever it comes onto the radio or tv. not to insult those of you who play and listen to metal, but i can't.
     
18_prophets wrote on 06/25/2005 - 05:21 am / quote |
too right dude, i think its sad that this needed to be sed but it was. being frm the 80s i miss every band which have shrunken into the shadows of NWOAHM etc etc, bring back Echo, the Unseen!!
     
call_of_puppetz wrote on 06/25/2005 - 09:46 pm / quote |
awesome..just..awesome..
     
ibanez666 wrote on 06/25/2005 - 10:16 pm / quote |
wow, that was the best frigging article i have ever read. five stars there buddy.
     
NiCk_FuRy wrote on 06/25/2005 - 10:52 pm / quote |
Thanks.. Best to you
     
elcapitanloco wrote on 06/25/2005 - 10:59 pm / quote |
This article, in my opinion, is trash.

Parts of it were incoherent or gramatically incorrect. Unfortunately, most people interpreted this as being "poetic" and "speechlike".

Personally I disagree with the idea that musicians are playing beyond their ability. In the studio, they can just repeat takes until they get their part right. If studio recordings still have bad vocals or bad playing, its almost always an artistic decision.

If it was a live performance, then you are being judgemental- to expect a band to play perfect every single performance is unreasonable.
     
slincoln. wrote on 06/26/2005 - 12:13 am / quote |
Sort of agree with chmerrymayhem, Hero's have a back catalogue, today some have 'a' cd, then dissappear. But is it their fault, or the $ machine that offers a chance of living a dream? At least they had the balls to try! I know I would want to try, but theres no guarantee that my music would be embraced by the world, allowing me to become a hero....
     
STPilots17 wrote on 06/26/2005 - 12:34 am / quote |
5 stars and a great guitarist would be nice....but a good songwriter would be awesome. Up untill the 90's, people really knew how to write songs. Love them or hate them; Nirvana, Oasis, Alice In Chains, etc. all knew what makes a song good. All music these days is lacking the heart that these bands had.
     
tomobrien wrote on 06/26/2005 - 02:52 am / quote |
yea man best thing i read so far man i hate those shit bands that all sound like the same old crap like the used, my chemical romance and all them. they just guitar player wannabes
     
element94 wrote on 06/26/2005 - 04:06 am / quote |
this article blows!!

no, i'm just kidding, it's amazingly well-written and has deep meaning. good job dude!
     
paddyo wrote on 06/26/2005 - 05:03 am / quote |
dude, this is like the best/most influential article on this site!! *5 stars* oh how im gonna play my guitar so much now!
     
caucasian_ninja wrote on 06/26/2005 - 01:46 pm / quote |
That one kid at your school that totally kills the guitar (maybe even you?).... he could be the next legend. Forget the mainstream at this moment. Look at those kids with bands that DO have solos, where the singer can belt out notes, where you notice the drumming, etc. A lot of the local teenage bands around where I live. Not necessarily them, but badns like them at least-- They ARE the future of music, aren't they?
     
SamuraiX wrote on 06/26/2005 - 10:51 pm / quote |
Overall good article. Though I don't see why everyone has to complain about the music now. If you are looking for something different, its going to be hard. Mostly everything has been touched on, things just have to evolve like they have been. You cant disclose a genre of music just because its on the mainstream. Like rap, a lot of people around here hate it. Why probably because its mainstream and rock isn't. I'm not saying everyone is like that,just a few.

If you look at rap in a whole yes it dose suck now, because its the same beats over and over. If you go back though, you can see a real point to rap, like Tupac, Run DMC, Public Enemy, Biggie Smalls, NWA just to name a few. They have a point to there music and its different, that's why I can respect them.

The music corporation has changed too, they look for who can sell, take Lindsay Lohan for example, she cannot sing, but she has big tits, and is cute. So she gets a record deal. The more popular bands today are in the Emo categories, but if you get over yourselves and just listen to it you will see that some of it isn't to bad.

You do not need to have a 15 minute solo in your songs to be "Great" I'm sorry. I know a lot of Emo/Screamo bands sound so much alike, but if you look some are worth your time, like OLD The Used, Senses Fail, Thursday, TRUSTcompany. Them bands are very talented.

I don't think a lot of you know how hard it is to actually get into the music business, let alone get in the mainstream, all of you musicians will know, but if you haven't been in a band and tried you wouldn't realize how hard it is to make a song sound good and put catchy lyrics to it.

I give credit to bands like Hawthorn Heights, My Chemical Romance, Taking Back Sunday, Finch, Dashboard Confessional and so on, because they made it and are on the mainstream. It dose take talent to actually get where they are.

Did you guys know that The Used were on Ozzfest, Ozzy saw something in them. I'm just trying to say don't rule out anyhting mainstream before you actually listen to it, because if your ignorant to a genre of music you are just missing out on great things you really are.

Article Rating 4/5
     
tomobrien wrote on 06/27/2005 - 06:15 am / quote |
lol clarkinator u such a fag man get a life man i got all of linkin parks albums and the used and the used is shit u dont even no wat u talking bout wanker
     
tomobrien wrote on 06/27/2005 - 06:15 am / quote |
lol i bet u dont even own a bloody guitar
     
experiment626 wrote on 06/27/2005 - 06:41 am / quote |
very good article
     
Rashomon wrote on 06/27/2005 - 06:56 am / quote |
can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail
a smile from a vail
     
Digger wrote on 06/27/2005 - 08:47 am / quote |
Great article. Tell you what is the biggest concern, the guitar solo has been replaced by the rap solo. I thought the drum solo was a life in hell.
     
The Leader wrote on 06/27/2005 - 09:20 am / quote |
Well written, but nothing new. Back in the 1970's (I was there), Disco was on top of everything, everywhere you looked. People with opinions a lot like like yours, talking about the end of music and the like. My point is, don't fret. Music changes, it has changed in the past, and it will change again.
     
lost_it_again wrote on 06/27/2005 - 12:39 pm / quote |
Brilliantly written, nicely balanced. Great article; 5 stars for you
     
aznkid001 wrote on 06/27/2005 - 12:59 pm / quote |
true, there are more power chord bands then ever before and more pathetic is that some bands have three guitarist all hitting power chords! EMO SUX
Long Live JMH, SRV, EC, JP
     
costa94 wrote on 06/27/2005 - 03:06 pm / quote |
mahn some of u fuks think u know it all when u dont know shit
     
Ace_GSA60 wrote on 06/27/2005 - 09:35 pm / quote |
Extremly wel written. Very good article. Your right what happened to the Jimi hendrix. Page, Clapton type influence we all had. Im only 16 and my live has been changed forever by listening to these songs. What ever happened to the days of guitar gods? Anymore I could ask one of my best buds who the lead is in there fav band and they wouldn't know. What has the world come to!!!..
     
froste12 wrote on 06/27/2005 - 10:37 pm / quote |
well its a good point however its not all hopeless, just if you live in north america, plenty of good bands have come from britain as of late, the libertines, franz ferdinand, razorlight, oasis (still kicking with best album since morning glory) for some reason its just better over in the isles than it is in north america, always sort of been that ways excluding bands like nirvana i guess however, britain seems to be the last stronghold of great rock
     
element94 wrote on 06/28/2005 - 05:13 am / quote |
aznkid001:
true, there are more power chord bands then ever before and more pathetic is that some bands have three guitarist all hitting power chords! EMO SUX
Long Live JMH, SRV, EC, JP

you're right, but there's nothing wrong with power chords. i would have considered your opinion valid if you left out the "EMO SUX" crap.
     
Guitar_Poet wrote on 06/28/2005 - 06:49 pm / quote |
i find it amusing that ye busted

ohmerrymayhem:
Oh, just for the record.... It's plebeian, not plebian, and a plebeian is someone "Of, belonging to, or characteristic of commoners." So you're saying that you're better than those of us on here, or me, because you have a difference of opinion? That's somewhat egotistical. Just thought I'd put that out there..
[POSTED: 22 June 2005 - 138]|


when you said

shagrin


...i believe you meant "chagrin." "shagrin" is not a word that exists. you may make up a definition if you like, though.

anyway, back to the article. i thought it was pretty good overall, but the flaws i see in it are these. first of all, you've only taken a look at "shred" "thrash" and "metal." i find this disturbing, for i see many heroes out there right now, maybe not exactly in the "metal" genre, but that are an influence to many musicians. even metal guitarists can admit that they were inspired by a jazz or blues player, and they still hold the same level of respect. i think you should broaden the subject so that it includes a bit more than just the "metal" world. i mean, artists like Vai, DiMeola, Johnson, etc. are a true inspiration to many musicians, even to those who write "metal" music... and therefore cannot be overlooked. i agree that there must be many great musicians out there who are not heard, but if you really think about it, some of them arent heard because they just dont put in the effort. some try, yes, but there are others who try harder, and they are the ones that are recognized. maybe watching TV you see these fake, pop-punk bands that pop up out of nowhere. on that subject, i agree that they totally suck, and dont deserve the recognition. but they get it, and they can hold it, and thats why theyre "famous" or "great." sucks, but thats how it is. like i said though, there are artists who try very hard, and in the end they get what they were working for. for example, james robinson. hes worked for years [30+] to get to the place that he's in now. he recently signed to Favored Nations... check him out. good stuff, not metal, but definitely good. THAT is inspiration, dedication, and success.
     
gr33n@tion wrote on 06/28/2005 - 06:07 pm / quote |
true.....
     
Cobain-iac_90 wrote on 06/29/2005 - 12:46 am / quote |
Nice article man. Some things I didn't agree with, but I enjoyed a lot of the points you got across. Our heroes, especially guitar heroes, are a dying breed nowadays. Where are the Hendrixes, the Vais, the Rhoads? Nobody will ever know...
     
Clarkinator wrote on 06/29/2005 - 02:53 am / quote |
tomobrien:
lol clarkinator u such a fag man get a life man i got all of linkin parks albums and the used and the used is shit u dont even no wat u talking bout wanker

Im not Gay, but congrats on looking ignorant and like a prick for calling me a "fag"

lol i bet u dont even own a bloody guitar
This is the dumbest statement ever...I hope to God you are 13 or younger. And yes, I own a guitar. I actually own three. Your attempt to bash me after I bashed you and your retarded comments was pitiful. You lose
     
Clarkinator wrote on 06/29/2005 - 02:54 am / quote |
The "lol i bet u dont even own a bloody guitar" part above was another tomobrien quote, i messed the quote thingy. My bad.
     
costa94 wrote on 06/29/2005 - 08:26 am / quote |
lol somebodeys not ignortant for calling u a fag 1)they speak the truth and 2)they wanna piss u off =)
     
Rune Playaz wrote on 06/29/2005 - 10:53 am / quote |
i agree with RememberMyName and nice article
     
danzigera wrote on 06/29/2005 - 05:18 pm / quote |
Awesome article. 5 stars. It's all about the music!
     
tomobrien wrote on 06/29/2005 - 08:11 pm / quote |
clarkinator has no balls
     
tomobrien wrote on 06/29/2005 - 08:12 pm / quote |
my dick is bigger than yours i can put both hands ova it i bet u cant
     
bad beaver wrote on 06/29/2005 - 11:33 pm / quote |
hahahah holy shit
     
masterofmuppets wrote on 06/30/2005 - 04:29 am / quote |
That was so cheesy... I like it
     
evvo_gc_fan wrote on 06/30/2005 - 12:54 pm / quote |
i liked that article a lot. good work.
     
goku77 wrote on 06/30/2005 - 09:48 pm / quote |
HAHAHA!!!EL OW EL!!!That was soooo ***in CORNY DOG!!

Ill give ya 5 stars because that was just soo damn corny.
     
Cradl_of_filth wrote on 06/30/2005 - 10:02 pm / quote |
amazing article , i love it
as a guitar player , guitar heroes are my inspiration , the feeling you get hearing their music , i started playing the guitar wanting to play the trooper (iron maiden) of course i couldn't but that was my goal , i wanted to play it like maiden , i needed it , so i practiced and practiced , and i finally could . now im playing fire an ice (yngwie) , i really think guitar heroes are triggers for new guitar heroes practicing to get as good as them or to play as groovy or as fast , you have to love music , my guitar is my pasion , one day maybe i or you will be a someone's hero , i think i went WAY OFF topic , sorry (please try not to criticize my spelling i know its bad , i dont need to be informed about it) good work man keep it up
     
tomobrien wrote on 07/01/2005 - 01:15 am / quote |
hmmm.. clarkinator smells like shit
     
MATRIXER05 wrote on 07/01/2005 - 03:57 am / quote |
a bit off-article but you made the right point. yes, a point that is often faded away by today's commercially, rushed and whiny "look at my, I'm here!" type of music-- Man, I know exactly what you are talking about mate, ColdPlay, all those gay-ass bands semi-retarded vocalists' of today. also, the same rehashed rap and hip hop "Phunk with my heart" type of shit. herbie fully-loaded type of shit. I also look at today's TV, pop music, mainstream culture. this is my examllpe of how i see it: for example when War of The Worlds came out then two days later oyou see something on ABC "the end of the world", i waws like you know
     
MATRIXER05 wrote on 07/01/2005 - 03:59 am / quote |
lll
     
Hosscat wrote on 07/01/2005 - 09:50 am / quote |
That gave me chill bumps and a BLUE-VEIN-THROBBER that a cat couldn't scratch!!! Good work!!!
     
r_lightning wrote on 07/01/2005 - 04:19 pm / quote |
yea man best thing i read so far man i hate those shit bands that all sound like the same old crap like the used, my chemical romance and all them. they just guitar player wannabes

shut the f*ck up!
you're a Linkin Park fan, and you flame The Used for being "crappy" on guitar? Ehm, The Used owns Linkin Park when it comes to skills and variation!

great article.. 5stars
     
L.A. Woman wrote on 07/01/2005 - 04:52 pm / quote |
*sniff* wow man...that was like... *runs off to cry in a corner* ... nooo i'm not emo..:p

further agreeing with most of the above *except the weird flamewar between clarkinator and tomobrien?..why dudes, why not for once just peace and love! i want the hippies back ^^*
     
Archaon wrote on 07/01/2005 - 06:32 pm / quote |
Very well said. I've pretty much felt the same way for a long time. New age music sucks. It reeks of talent and guitar solos.

Music is only gonna get worse in time. Just take a look at emo, pop punk, and linkin park. Yea, they have their own little spot cuz that's how much they suck.
     
Overrated wrote on 07/01/2005 - 09:58 pm / quote |
Where have all the flowers gone indeed. What ever happened to outdoor concerts that arent full of drunken idiots smashing into one another, I want the hippies back as well my friend. The seed of good music is still lying dormant, but it'll sprout someday, sooner better than later.
     
heartwarmingpie wrote on 07/01/2005 - 09:58 pm / quote |
Very well written, and makes a point I've known for a long time. I'm a fourteen year old guitar, been playing for two years, and understand what music is and where it is going. Whilst many bands may not have the technical prowess that some older bands do, there still shines a light behind the dirty window that is most modern music. Making music has never, should never, and never will be about making money: It's about passion for something you love. Nowadays with music videos, marketing ploys, and useless merchandise floating around, I felt that all modern music was just a complete waste of time. But then my friend showed me modern metal and hardcore, and I knew that people still believed in the things I love: Kicking ass for the rights of music lovers worldwide. This guy absolutely gets what I been trying to get out to my friends and other people. The heroes have never died; they have just drifted aside, making room for the heroes of tomorrow. This is why I play my guitar for hours on end, in hopes that maybe I could change the world with my music, because I still believe the heroes are there; they just havent shown up yet.

Ok, that's my rant. 50 Stars!
     
tomobrien wrote on 07/01/2005 - 10:54 pm / quote |
lol good job heartwarmingpie thats exactly how i feel to
     
Spity90 wrote on 07/02/2005 - 02:21 am / quote |
hey heartwarmingpie u and i think alike lol im a 15 year old guitarist and i too play a tushy load as much as i can, i really do i hope i can have some kind of impact on the music world lol
     
Volkl wrote on 07/02/2005 - 05:13 am / quote |
BRAVO! lol. I agree totally.
     
fenderplaya015 wrote on 07/02/2005 - 07:49 am / quote |
right on brother good article
     
epiphones wrote on 07/02/2005 - 09:34 am / quote |
wow man that was one badass article!!!..
     
broken fusion! wrote on 07/02/2005 - 02:31 pm / quote |
you know what's funny, is the 3 bands you mentioned are just putting their own twist on a genre that's been around in europe (and FILLED with more talented musicians) for years

there are TONS of good bands with amazing musicians, you just have to look for them and stop whining about the tons of shitty music that can get in the way
     
broken fusion! wrote on 07/02/2005 - 02:33 pm / quote |
PS : I hardly think slipknot has forsaken the "one track approach in hopes for something more"
     
Clarkinator wrote on 07/02/2005 - 07:55 pm / quote |
L.A. Woman:
*sniff* wow man...that was like... *runs off to cry in a corner* ... nooo i'm not emo..:p

further agreeing with most of the above *except the weird flamewar between clarkinator and tomobrien?..why dudes, why not for once just peace and love! i want the hippies back ^^*


haha he started it, and he said i smelled and have a small dick... oh well, I bet im twice as good as he is with a sex string, and a woman. Wait, he prob doesnt have one anyways, who'd wanna date an asshole?
Oh and L.A. Woman is my fav Doors song. I effin love that song.
     
tomobrien wrote on 07/02/2005 - 08:09 pm / quote |
man go suck your girlfriends penis (clarkinator)
     
Clarkinator wrote on 07/03/2005 - 01:08 am / quote |
^^ Why are you so immature? You probably think your so funny posting crap like that, while everyone on this site over 14 is laughing hysterically ( i cant spell that word) at you. Seriously, when mommy and daddy give you permission to use the computer from now on, use it constructivly to learn your multiplication tables and vocab words, not to pick fights with people. Im done arguing. Have a nice life
     
tomobrien wrote on 07/03/2005 - 05:21 am / quote |
il fight u anyday fag u just a coward
     
paddyo wrote on 07/03/2005 - 05:21 pm / quote |
jesus guys cool down!!! this section is for posting comments on the article not immature "fighting". im 14 an even i can see that.
great job on the article,so inspiring.
5 stars
     
urthunderstruck wrote on 07/03/2005 - 07:22 pm / quote |
i agree and all, its just that if a band sounds another band but comes out a few weeks later, its doubtful they copied the "orignal"
     
daniellenser wrote on 07/04/2005 - 01:33 am / quote |
someone already said this, but i also like how you didnt name things you hated. made it hard for people to argue their opinions and such. but its amazing to me how people can still find ways to argue and fight with eachother. great article. makes you think. should be more articles like this.
     
mrdeetag wrote on 07/04/2005 - 09:25 am / quote |
Maybe we expect more then we did 20 years ago too.
Nice job.
dee
     
jeevan wrote on 07/04/2005 - 01:51 pm / quote |
hahahah this is the perfect article, to get you a 5 star rating..
nah. but seriously man, this was a good article, nice stuff. u made a lotta sense, its good too see that were not alone in the way we think.
someday we shall watch the world look back at us in interest.
     
WilliamVN'R wrote on 07/05/2005 - 12:16 pm / quote |
Great article man! Yeah i agree that most "musicians" nowadays don't actually give a hot f*ck about the music. 5 stars
     
cds+stereo=life wrote on 07/05/2005 - 12:51 pm / quote |
Dude, we need more people like you in the world. Someone with a voice, not to mention an opinion and intelligence. I dont get how people can complain about that, people can't mark you down because they don't agree with your music taste, I hate Killswitch Engage but thats your choice. Be open minded people. 5 stars, hands down no argument.
     
kbass9267 wrote on 07/05/2005 - 05:05 pm / quote |
good thought
     
riffuntilidie wrote on 07/05/2005 - 06:08 pm / quote |
your like the metal confusios or somethin
     
slash_pwns wrote on 07/05/2005 - 08:02 pm / quote |
Damn good. 5/5.
     
Blizzardboy402 wrote on 07/05/2005 - 11:42 pm / quote |
bravo! Excellant article
     
tomobrien wrote on 07/06/2005 - 03:34 am / quote |
that was just a load of crap stop whining thers heaps of cool band still like kelly clarckson, thirsty merc and missy higgens they rock harder than these people
     
acrocks wrote on 07/06/2005 - 01:41 pm / quote |
STFU^^^

we have been summoned
     
stormchaser wrote on 07/06/2005 - 03:48 pm / quote |
Amen! Great article!
     
ledsoldier wrote on 07/06/2005 - 05:42 pm / quote |
haha five stars man. i just hope people dont take this the wrong way and start to copy hendrix and page note for note. we dont need anymore bb king or SRV's, because all we need is one. but we do need to do is capture the passion they all had so that we can change what is so parallel and cold in todays music
     
The Big Irish wrote on 07/06/2005 - 06:32 pm / quote |
I applaud you Ohmerrymayhem, it was a well researched and well written piece, and the imagery was impeccable. You made your point very well. 5 stars.
     
tomobrien wrote on 07/06/2005 - 10:46 pm / quote |
*** u all
     
tomobrien wrote on 07/06/2005 - 10:49 pm / quote |
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tomobrien wrote on 07/06/2005 - 10:50 pm / quote |
OO===D~~~~
     
the_white_bunny wrote on 07/07/2005 - 02:45 pm / quote |
all i can say is new music sucks

now there are talnted people in thes bands but they dont show it becuase they have a image that they use and its not in there style and that pisses me off
     
grimreaper65 wrote on 07/07/2005 - 04:21 pm / quote |
shadowsfall, lamb of god, killswitch engage = metalcore, not metal
     
nickjman wrote on 07/07/2005 - 10:40 pm / quote |
I thought it was a fair enough article, but it seems like the artists mentioned were of a very specific group- mainstream bands of very similar genres. I think that there are plenty of "heroes" still left in the music industry; you just have to look to find them. A partial list of mine would include Ben Harper, Jack Johnson, Nickel Creek, The Shins, and Chris Isaak to name a few, but there are plenty of good musicians still around or up and coming, you just have to look (or play music well yourself).
Just as a warning though, people who enjoy bands like Lamb of God or Metallica to the exclusion of all else will probably not enjoy the artists that I listed, extremely talented as they may be.

Just as a pet peeve though, I kind of think that if you are going to use more sophisticated vocabulary, you should take the time to spell it correctly. "shagrin" anyone? You seem much more intelligent spelling simple words (or even abbreviating) correctly than you do by mispelling very badly complicated ones.

God Bless and have fun practicing
     
FloydFan89 wrote on 07/08/2005 - 12:15 am / quote |
Maybe judas priet's tour will give musicians what metal really is. (even though the lead singer is gay)
..
     
tomobrien wrote on 07/08/2005 - 01:35 am / quote |
where has real music gone???.. music sux these days... well most of it
     
dooda wrote on 07/08/2005 - 03:46 am / quote |
yeh rock isnt wat it used 2 be back in 70's and 80's
     
snake_eyes31 wrote on 07/08/2005 - 04:12 am / quote |
listen to me, people care what i think, my opinion is very important, judge me, judge me.
     
hardcoreatheist wrote on 07/08/2005 - 08:02 am / quote |
living the good life, retiring your parents, not worrying about bills, etc you would turn it all down because of your love for music..
you suck man your exactly the kind of shit that needs to be wiped up the good life is boring when are you gonna realise you cant listen to money?
     
jr1976 wrote on 07/11/2005 - 06:34 pm / quote |
Shut the f*ck up
F*ck New Found Glory, bands like this wouldn't exist, they spoil Aerosmith's songs without using no minor chords and they think they're punk
     
jr1976 wrote on 07/11/2005 - 06:35 pm / quote |
I like your article, man
     
alexxx152 wrote on 07/13/2005 - 09:32 am / quote |
great article!
     
metallik1013 wrote on 07/13/2005 - 01:58 pm / quote |
Yes, it's true that a difference of opinion which sparks many great things. But it has also been known to spark a lack of progress, breakups, murder, assassinations, rape, war,cancellations of your favorite cartton, etc. Not all tension is good tension.
     
El Benno wrote on 07/13/2005 - 07:53 pm / quote |
While I liked some of what you were saying, some of it was also bullshit. You started off saying that "the name of the band doesn't matter" and that you wouldn't say which big name music station it was that it was on. You went from honorably not naming names to outright bashing Metallica. Then you went into a self-righteous speach about how teenage musicians are the future heroes. You should let people decide for themselves who their heroes are instead of telling them.
     
GuitaPlaya wrote on 07/17/2005 - 03:05 pm / quote |
WTF didnt get it probably beacuse i wasnt paying attentinon when i read it
     
Vexx wrote on 07/19/2005 - 03:14 am / quote |
A band shouldnt be judged by how difficult or how simple thier songs are. "good or bad" is a point of view, so please stop throwing out the cliche lines like "Modern Music sucks" because modern music isnt based on guitar solos and such like it used to be, alot of bands nowadays shoot for a group effort, each band member brings what they have to the table, even if some riffs are simple the fact that they are playing music that feels good to them is what makes a musician creative instead of thinking that they have to create the worlds most difficult riff in order to be a good musician. Music is a form of self expression is it not?
     
FooNoodles wrote on 07/20/2005 - 04:28 pm / quote |
I think this is the single most meaningful article I've ever read. It is so true. Music isn't what it used to be. Its all comercial. The new popstars and rappers, just miss the poin't.
What ever happened to Rock 'n Roll?

5 stars.
     
greasy_fingers wrote on 07/23/2005 - 02:19 am / quote |
F**k you all...

...Is what some of music today makes me feel like saying. Sure, they can play real fast and hard, but theres no Soul! I believe Stevie Ray Vaughan once said something like "It's better to play one note that really gets your point across, than to play a hundred that mean nothing". Or something like that.
     
omega_storm wrote on 07/24/2005 - 10:01 pm / quote |
F*ck New Found Glory, bands like this wouldn't exist, they spoil Aerosmith's songs without using no minor chords and they think they're punk


give me one "punk" band that did a cover of Aerosmith and i'll agree with you. and NFG didn't, so don't f***ing say they did
     
omega_storm wrote on 07/24/2005 - 10:03 pm / quote |
wait....f*uck that!
there's just another noob bein an a$$hole
     
GnRrelease_it wrote on 08/05/2005 - 10:56 am / quote |
good article...all true
cheers for not mentioning band names
     
Green_Fox wrote on 08/08/2005 - 11:04 pm / quote |
That was amazing. You should write a song about something like this.
     
ruberducky wrote on 08/11/2005 - 12:34 pm / quote |
METAL SUCKS A BINKY ..
     
prettyduck wrote on 08/14/2005 - 03:41 pm / quote |
awsome...i couldnt agree with you more i almost started an artical like that but i kinda chickend out and didnt know waht people would say...im glad some one had balls...your awsome...i think i love you...lets get married and have lots of lettle metal kids and live on a farm with 36 llamas and 7 cows...lol no im just kidding really i am but awsome point of view
     
ThatAsianDude wrote on 08/31/2005 - 05:12 am / quote |
dude, u speak such true and inspirational words...
     
cdk4bls wrote on 09/05/2005 - 12:14 pm / quote |
Dude, you've picked up hundreds of disciples with one freakin article. 5 stars for amount of feedback by readers.
     
cdk4bls wrote on 09/05/2005 - 12:24 pm / quote |
In my opinion, and I don't know how many of you would agree, but it seems more and more that music's golden era has come and gone, in all genres, even rap- the likes of Run-DMC and older groups who were a little more diverse, have been replaced by perverts who sing about how many women they've screwed and how they do it, and how they're so rich.
Apart from an elite few bands/singers/artists/performers in each genre who continue to pursue and pump out original and great sounding music, it's true, music has become cheapened beyond belief. Catchiness has replaced nearly un-imitatable licks, and 'musicians' (dare I call some of them that still?) are trying to fit into categories they'd be better off not getting into. So, whatever you do, do what you love and find out what you do best. take a deep breath, give the mainstream the finger, and reclaim our lost territory for proper musicians.
comments? queries?
     
cdk4bls wrote on 09/05/2005 - 12:32 pm / quote |
mahn some of u fuks think u know it all when u dont know shit


please, costa 94, tell us all about this 'shit' that you apparently know so much about. inform us of your knowledge of 'shit'
     
Dogwillhunt wrote on 09/14/2005 - 05:38 pm / quote |
cdk4bls... Amen.
Finally, people are starting to realize that it's not about the music anymore, it's all about the image or catchiness of a song. I agree, we need to wake up and bitch slap these mainstream ass babies and reclaim our rightful spots as musicians instead of letting these clown gimmicks destroy music for everyone. Let's take a stand people, let's grow some balls and take our place back. The corporate radio industry's against us, MTV's against us, record execs are against us; it doesn't seem like any of us with talent are gonna get any kind of help from them so f*** 'em just to see the look on their faces. Who's with me?
     
envybass wrote on 09/14/2005 - 07:00 pm / quote |
Awsome!!
     
dude12 wrote on 09/15/2005 - 05:21 pm / quote |
shut the f*ck up!
you're a Linkin Park fan, and you flame The Used for being "crappy" on guitar? Ehm, The Used owns Linkin Park when it comes to skills and variation!


Well r_lightning, the Used are about the suckiest band that thought they ever wrote a song!Hey Linkin Park sucks too, but the Used .....? Not an example of a "good bad".

this article is the 1'st good one i've read. keep it up.it gets 2378375 stars
     
dude12 wrote on 09/15/2005 - 05:22 pm / quote |
sorry thats
"good band"
     
jpburns88 wrote on 09/15/2005 - 08:21 pm / quote |
well here we go again. An honest, hearfelt and well thought out post designed to make us all stop and actually ***in think about what's going on with music. Instead of arguing over who is the better band, we should be sittin down with our guitars or bass or drums what ***in whatever and practicing and becoming good. Every great articile on this site, the comment boards just deteriorate into guys flaming and going "your band fyuckin sux! my band forever!! woooo!!!!" This is the kinda thing that aloows corporations to forcee feed whatever they want down our throats and we just take it because we're too busy arguing over pointliss shit like whose band is better instead of going out and changing things ourselves. If you dont like the music out right now, then go out and create what you want to hear. I think that's the point of the article.
     
WeezerFanEF wrote on 09/18/2005 - 06:56 pm / quote |
Hahaha.. That was sooo cheesy. But I guess Cheesy isn't always bad. Good article.
     
mypoorbrain wrote on 10/09/2005 - 06:06 am / quote |
fantastic. and you didn't even have to use the words "fag" or "gay". just fantastic
     
Gabuydachk wrote on 10/23/2005 - 01:14 pm / quote |
10!!!!!
     
fahd wrote on 10/23/2005 - 02:20 pm / quote |
Well Very Well Done Man !!!

but just a thought. is this more n more catagorising of music behind this ???
every1 has his genre which he buys n stuff. this is cool, thats hot, bla balbla
we'r so bz in learning the names of genres and they are just using it as a tool.

Besides I think it limitizes music and the the ability of musician to creat music.

and yes u'r right
I play in my parants house
     
Nick_Rennette wrote on 11/03/2005 - 11:10 am / quote |
wow, man...wow 6 f#$@in stars! I'm only 13 but everything you said in that artical, is exactly what i think, good job man!
     
mccabe24 wrote on 11/24/2005 - 02:45 pm / quote |
Good article (8 stars), but not all modern music is that bad. I enjoy listening to Alter Bridge, but other then that, you are right.
     
FunFuBarMan wrote on 11/24/2005 - 04:01 pm / quote |
Very nice article and very true
     
Brit_Rock wrote on 03/22/2006 - 04:57 pm / quote |
nice
     
westo wrote on 07/13/2006 - 09:05 pm / quote |
yay no more on-going powerchords with a guitar player who's been playing for 6 months and is only famous because they have a symmetrical face which attracts young teenage girls!

i love it!
     
Nor'Easterbass wrote on 10/02/2006 - 03:29 pm / quote |
Wow. You belong with a magazine like GuitarOne or something, you really do. I totally agree with you in every dam.n way.
     
BreakingTheGirl wrote on 08/28/2007 - 10:26 pm / quote |
... what's the point?
was anyone on this website honestly unaware of this?
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