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Why Top 10 Lists Are Pointless

author: Unregistered date: 09/02/2004 category: junkyard
rating: 5.5 / votes: 36 

How many times have you searched the internet and found a "Top 10 Rock Bands" list? Or even a "Top 10 Lead Guitarist" list. For some unknown reason, people tend to take them more serious than life itself. But do they really define who is the best band of all time?

Take into account, the majority of these lists are printed by somebody who has conjured up the list out of their own preferences. I'm sure any Led Zeppelin fan would trash their own website with "Jimmy Page is God" or "Led Zeppelin are the lords of rock", not to mension putting them at number 1 on any band list. All these lists really do is cause arguments between fans who believe that their band should have got a higher place or, in a common scenario, "Stairway To Heaven" should not be named the best song of all time. We all agree it was a good song and has aged well. But with the rise in dance music in todays society, not many people take the time to really listen to rock music (except all of us good people on the UG website of corse). So infact, surely people are making these lists, not out of actual research, but because it is popular to like certain bands or songs. I'm sure a lot of people don't like The Beatles' music, but they were such a huge band they people dare not say anything bad because they believe it is popular to like them. So are any top 10 lists really reliable?

Of corse not. If they're made by some 14 year old kid at home, then a solar powered torch would be more reliable. And if they were made by actual researchers on the streets, then yes it is a more accurate calculation, but it is still a matter of opinion. I would take a guess and say that either Zeppelin or The Beatles would chart at number 1. Why do I think this? Because they are so well known around the world that people writing these lists will think that this is what we want to see. However, in a lot of cases this is not. Van Halen fans would complain that they aren't high enough and Metallica fans would... just complain... as always.

So what makes a good, respectable top 10 list? If you were to make one, how would you judge bands/musicians? You could start with who was most influencial. Possibly followed by who had the best range of songs. Again, these are always going to be a matter of opinion. Typical people popping into the influencial catagory are Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix or even Joe Satriani. But then you will always get people picking out the ones are AREN'T on the list. "What about Steve Vai?" they all say. "You can't forget John Petrucci, Ritchie Blackmore, Richie Sambora, Jack Kingsley, Slash or David Gilmour?" No, you can't forget them. They were all equally influencial and no one can take that away from them.

So do top 10 lists really define a good band or musician? No, they're are merely someones opinion. Nobody can really say who is the best or who is the most influencial. We are all influenced by people and things in our lives. Typically we are influenced by those who did it first so the older musicians will always gain more credit than anyone today. But out of such a large number of 60's and 70's rockers, is there really a "best band in the world"? Or is it all an excuss for a debate...

POSTED: 09/02/2004 - 09:52 am
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refusedparty wrote on 09/02/2004 - 11:04 am / quote |
although they're pointless, they're bloody good fun to read and scream when you predicted one right
     
MarkWantPieNow wrote on 09/02/2004 - 11:19 am / quote |
i came on this article hopign for perhaps a paradoy or ironic top ten reasons why lists are pointless, at least good for a quick smile, but this is genuinley pathetic.
     
scionist wrote on 09/02/2004 - 11:27 am / quote |
Damn sure you're right. Who cares about lists?
     
busby_bass wrote on 09/02/2004 - 11:32 am / quote |
jack asstor dont post jst first say something,

lists are pointless but i still look at them anyway
     
jumpmanhat wrote on 09/02/2004 - 11:42 am / quote |
Are you saying that Dave Mustaine and Kirk Hammet are useless? because they're not on the list of your's and maybe your just a little kid and i can kick your burning ass!!!
     
gregmccormick wrote on 09/02/2004 - 12:55 pm / quote |
grrr im a whining metallica fan fu.ck you
     
moonraker wrote on 09/02/2004 - 01:14 pm / quote |
makes sense
     
slash_620 wrote on 09/02/2004 - 02:17 pm / quote |
but wasnt what u just wrote pointless because it was all your opinion?cause apparently everyone elses opinions are pointless
     
lithium_project wrote on 09/02/2004 - 02:51 pm / quote |
lol this is gonna get confusin very quickly
Jackasstor get a life
     
vinniebeast wrote on 09/02/2004 - 03:36 pm / quote |
I might write an article on why rants are pointless...
     
Rock 101 wrote on 09/02/2004 - 03:47 pm / quote |
You have inspired me to write my own article: "Why cynical ass-holes should not waste our time with pointless bullshit articles about how "top 10 articles are pointless", and instead leave us to have out own opinion instead of forcing them upon us"
Waste of an article
     
proguit933 wrote on 09/02/2004 - 03:51 pm / quote |
i dunno what to say about this cuz i have mixed feelings on the subject but i do agree a top ten list is definitely just opinion.
     
Eddie_Van_Halen wrote on 09/02/2004 - 04:29 pm / quote |
I hate top 10 lists because everyone takes them seriously! They all moan about whos on it or whos not on it. I dont care if this article is pointless, the guy is right in what he says. Damn top 10 lists causing arguments!!!
     
Eddie_Van_Halen wrote on 09/02/2004 - 04:30 pm / quote |
Just to prove me correct, i bet if everyone started entering their own top 10 lists on this page an argument would start within days.
     
Duff_McGee wrote on 09/02/2004 - 04:49 pm / quote |
Just to prove me correct, i bet if everyone started entering their own top 10 lists on this page an argument would start within days.



Haha, days?? More like minutes, seconds even.
     
WrappedInCold wrote on 09/02/2004 - 05:41 pm / quote |
u r so lucky u r unregistered
     
lithium_project wrote on 09/02/2004 - 06:22 pm / quote |
lol amen to tht
     
ChurchNSkate wrote on 09/02/2004 - 06:35 pm / quote |
very well written, i say. and yes, metallca fans just kinda...complain and praise kirk. even though he isnt that good.



but i think you shouldve put 10 reasons
     
ninjasushi wrote on 09/02/2004 - 07:27 pm / quote |
"omg... i cant belive kirk hammet wasnt 1st on the top 10 guitarist of all time... this si bull... METALLICA RULES!"

"Dave Mustaine is one hundred times better than Kirk Hammet! MEGADETH RULES!"

I sweat to God... everytime there is a top 10 list and kirk hammet or dave mustaine arent first... this is what we get... this article may have been stupid... but metallica and megadeth fans should stop fighting and listen to pantera
     
jeeba jaba wrote on 09/02/2004 - 08:32 pm / quote |
well of course top 10 lists are just opinion. I think there merely there to indeed strike up lively debates, and things of that nature. I think this article was a kind of a waste of time, next time think of writing something worth reading.
     
slash_rhoads wrote on 09/02/2004 - 08:57 pm / quote |
yes they are pointless but they make you laugh a lot
     
Scorpions wrote on 09/02/2004 - 09:13 pm / quote |
people dont need top ten lists because they have their own. You're absolutely correct. I give you.... the guitar of your dreams.... have a good dream
     
Rockstar_450 wrote on 09/02/2004 - 10:03 pm / quote |
this was s**t..... what was the point of this article?
     
 redwing_suck   m   wrote on 09/02/2004 - 11:18 pm / quote |
lateraluspiral:
wow, why did i read that? and why do people always go "1st!" and "2nd!" its retarded. its not a damn race, its just posting your opinions...
'tis true, my friend. but i had to delete your post because.... well i'll post the rule word for word:

"any post with a claim to a number, with or without opinion, will be deleted. any posts responding to those kinds of posts will be deleted as well. this is done to keep all posts as on-topic as possible"

thank you, and have a nice day.


spam deleted.
     
MrScary07RR wrote on 09/03/2004 - 12:59 am / quote |
"Metallica fans would... just complain... as always."

hahahahaha, so true.
     
Donahue2 wrote on 09/03/2004 - 01:06 am / quote |
list of ten reasons why top ten lists are bad:

10:They date your mother just to spite you

9:They aren't accurate. Since when is Kurt Cobain better than Randy Rhodes?

8:They're terrible at sweet talking.

7:Sometimes they only have four entries.
     
thncldtrdcstawy wrote on 09/03/2004 - 02:08 am / quote |
Why do you chuckleheads feel the need to bash each other? i'm not saying send flowers to one another, but for fux sake, shut the hell up, BUNCHA CHILDREN. TAG YOUR IT ANTI-QUITSIES QUADRUPLESTAMPED TIMES INFINITY TO INFINITY PLUS INFINITY.STOP.
     
boxcarblink41 wrote on 09/03/2004 - 03:26 am / quote |
uhhhh...BEATLES RULE
     
roo6339 wrote on 09/03/2004 - 03:33 am / quote |
MarkWantPieNow:
i came on this article hopign for perhaps a paradoy or ironic top ten reasons why lists are pointless, at least good for a quick smile, but this is genuinley pathetic.
that's what i was going to say...
     
eastern_riffs wrote on 09/03/2004 - 08:35 am / quote |
another desperate writer

all opinions respected,spam deleted
     
Eddie_Van_Halen wrote on 09/03/2004 - 10:43 am / quote |
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this but can anyone tell me who Jack Kingsley is since he was mensioned in the article? I'm only new to the guitar world....
     
Captain Colon wrote on 09/03/2004 - 10:28 pm / quote |
Whenever I think of top 10 lists I think of Rolling Stone's "top 100 guitarists" and I cry.

Thanks asshole, you made me cry.
     
Jerry_page wrote on 09/03/2004 - 03:25 pm / quote |
The last paragraph was very true and what a great article
     
Damicksta2k wrote on 09/03/2004 - 04:41 pm / quote |
cough...rant...cough...

     
Unseen_hero wrote on 09/03/2004 - 05:00 pm / quote |
wow, i never knew people thought of these lists as the word of god. True, they are opinionated, but they are just done for leisure and enjoyment. Not to tell you, the beatles are the best band in the world... the lord has spoken, buy abby road.
     
Wormboy wrote on 09/03/2004 - 06:31 pm / quote |
um....wadaful?
     
Metalology wrote on 09/03/2004 - 06:38 pm / quote |
Damicksta2k:
cough...rant...cough...


This is worst than a rant, this is a closed mind piece of crap. If you put Joe Satriani in people arent gonna forget Steve Vai etc. there is no best band but isnt an excuse for a debate if someones opinion like you said. Jeez your own article backfires on you. This article was as bad as " Why Goth Music is Untalented "
     
twocenttip wrote on 09/03/2004 - 08:03 pm / quote |
top ten reasons top ten lists mean nothing:
10: no one researches them
9: no one cares
8: its all opinions anyway
7: david letterman already copyrighted it
6: even if you do research it, it changes in like 15 minutes anyway so why bother
5: once again, no one really cares
4: they make people go pentecostal like the writer of this little essay
3: BECAUSE I SAID SO
2: umm i cant think of a number 2
1: WHY? WHY?WHY?WHYWHYHWYHWYHWYHWYWYHYWHYWHYW?
thank you. i had fun writing this.
     
funkyplayer wrote on 09/03/2004 - 08:04 pm / quote |
THEY ARE ONLY OPINIONS (long artical short)
     
shinkyo00 wrote on 09/03/2004 - 08:26 pm / quote |
well if the list rates the musician according to some property then it might be a little more rational

ie michael angelo batio at number 1 for speed that would be pretty solid n no one can argue
     
slimgeraldo wrote on 09/03/2004 - 10:18 pm / quote |
for real dude...
*** lists, steve vai was one of the greatest and he is not in those gay lists, neither are the doors or even pink floyd, this lists are bloody mad i tell you, bloody mad
     
Donahue2 wrote on 09/03/2004 - 11:12 pm / quote |
man, a plane didn't hit the Pentagon. There was no plane debrits, the pentagon security camera captured something much smaller than a bowing 747 flying extremely close to the ground and many witnesses say that they saw what looked like a missile flying towards the pentagon.
     
Jpinales2004 wrote on 09/03/2004 - 11:32 pm / quote |
thncldtrdcstawy:

Why do you chuckleheads feel the need to bash each other? i'm not saying send flowers to one another, but for fux sake, shut the hell up, BUNCHA CHILDREN. TAG YOUR IT ANTI-QUITSIES QUADRUPLESTAMPED TIMES INFINITY TO INFINITY PLUS INFINITY.STOP.

You r quite a dick for someone who tries to tell us to stop bashing at each other
     
metal_fanatic wrote on 09/04/2004 - 09:21 am / quote |
why was this article so pointless
     
fender rocker16 wrote on 09/04/2004 - 01:33 pm / quote |
Donahue2:
man, a plane didn't hit the Pentagon. There was no plane debrits, the pentagon security camera captured something much smaller than a bowing 747 flying extremely close to the ground and many witnesses say that they saw what looked like a missile flying towards the pentagon.
[POSTED: 03 September 2004 - 23:12]|

lol what does that have to do with top 10?

the article was good. 4 stars.
     
THE_TR00PER wrote on 09/04/2004 - 05:15 pm / quote |
your right
     
Donahue2 wrote on 09/04/2004 - 08:17 pm / quote |
It has to do with everything man. The government is spewing out lies like it's nobodies business. The FBI destroyed every other security tape that caught the explosion. that should say something right there.
     
deadkenedy wrote on 09/04/2004 - 09:45 pm / quote |
Have u ever thought these bands are well known cos they are really good ?
     
Gunstar Hero wrote on 09/04/2004 - 09:55 pm / quote |
"and Metallica fans would... just complain... as always."

haha
     
JIBTEXHNKA wrote on 09/05/2004 - 02:36 am / quote |
donahue2... while i do believe that, i mean theres no way that a plane that can knock over a tower is gonna leave a hole that small, this really isnt that place to discuss it. haha this is about stupid lists, not politics.
AAA..NYways.. i like metallica... and i dont complain THAT much!
     
sanitarium017 wrote on 09/05/2004 - 04:37 am / quote |
solar powered torch?
     
sanitarium017 wrote on 09/05/2004 - 04:45 am / quote |
i like metallica AND megadeth AND pantera oooo what now
     
bean_brain wrote on 09/05/2004 - 01:35 pm / quote |
This article makes my list of "Top 10 Articles That Need Proofreading". I mean that article itself was already pretty lame, but throw in the words "mension" and "of corse" and you have to wonder if this guy passed the fourth grade.
     
AnyDJ wrote on 09/05/2004 - 01:36 pm / quote |
first, the torch thing was dumb. secondly, learn to spell, thought i'd menTion (not mension) that. but i do get the irony. saying how something is pointless by doing something pointless yourself. that's one of those deep psychological things right? and dave letterman and sportscenter have kept the top ten list working for years. it's not their fault fourteen-year olds with solar powered torches screw it up.
     
Mullet28 wrote on 09/05/2004 - 01:42 pm / quote |
"omg... i cant belive kirk hammet wasnt 1st on the top 10 guitarist of all time... this si bull... METALLICA RULES!"

"Dave Mustaine is one hundred times better than Kirk Hammet! MEGADETH RULES!"

I sweat to God... everytime there is a top 10 list and kirk hammet or dave mustaine arent first... this is what we get... this article may have been stupid... but metallica and megadeth fans should stop fighting and listen to pantera


To True
     
semus wrote on 09/05/2004 - 02:07 pm / quote |
dude.. those lists are usualy based on surveys and polls ppl made.. its not just lists, unless it says "my top 10 bands" or somnthing
     
SRVisGod wrote on 09/05/2004 - 02:46 pm / quote |
What about stevie ray vaughan i mean come on people hes a master
     
rob_larry01 wrote on 09/05/2004 - 04:14 pm / quote |
a solar powered torch is an invention, it merely stores up the suns rays during the day time for use when its dark, so that arguement worked! haha
     
sanitarium017 wrote on 09/06/2004 - 06:21 am / quote |
sweet, i got 50 posts. i am awesome.
     
sanitarium017 wrote on 09/06/2004 - 06:22 am / quote |
wait, that was 49 shiii..t.... im good now
     
sanitarium017 wrote on 09/06/2004 - 06:22 am / quote |
damn this area doesnt raise the number.. i feel dumb now
     
Eddie_Van_Halen wrote on 09/06/2004 - 02:18 pm / quote |
for god sake this isn't an english lesson, why does everyone moan about spelling? Who gives a sh*t! We're f*ckin musicians we're supposed to be dumb!
     
gooseholla wrote on 09/06/2004 - 04:49 pm / quote |
Yeah I came on expecting a top ten list why they are pointless :/
     
lithium_project wrote on 09/07/2004 - 05:39 pm / quote |
its hard to do a top 10 list of say guitarists, because theres so many fantastic guitarists, an wht defines a gd guitarist? The way they play, the songs they create, how gd they can solo?

Dont bother gettin wound up ova the bastard lists, just go listen to ur fav album, much more fun
     
zsmith wrote on 09/08/2004 - 12:33 am / quote |
umm...the lists can be fun, though
     
 funeralforafrie   m   wrote on 09/08/2004 - 10:36 am / quote |
Moorsteenyoung: Post deleted, first warning
incubusize: Post deleted, first warning
MetalheadBuddha: Post deleted, first warning
Click You: Post deleted, first warning

All four of you, dont be queer.
     
darkstar9814 wrote on 09/08/2004 - 06:17 pm / quote |
its ok to post ur opinion, b/c from wat u said, its not, well u kno wat, u can fu ck urself
     
theonlybman wrote on 09/09/2004 - 03:43 pm / quote |
I disagree, because I think bands like the Beatles, Zepplin, Linkin Park are above everyone else just in the level of they're music. Also, with your popularity contest did it ever occur to you that someone would make a Top 10 Most Popular Bands of all time list. But, you do have a point that they should not be taken that seriously. Doesn't everyone love a good debate anyway?
     
crawlingfaster wrote on 09/10/2004 - 12:01 am / quote |
refusedparty:
although they're pointless, they're bloody good fun to read and scream when you predicted one right


you got that right
     
crawlingfaster wrote on 09/10/2004 - 12:04 am / quote |
there are more than just 10 great guitarists/bands/songs. and if you leave one out some people might get pissed but thats what fun about making lists. u get to say what u want and piss people off
     
box_car_racer51 wrote on 09/10/2004 - 12:40 am / quote |
Guys shut up...Everyone knows Tom Morello is the best guitarist
     
Axl_Duff_Izzy wrote on 09/10/2004 - 05:06 am / quote |
This is shit you Fucking Jap
     
bensk8n wrote on 09/10/2004 - 02:43 pm / quote |
i think one of the only really well done ones was in the hit parader "heavy metal top 100"s" issue... even though it was named heavy metal 100's there was much more that woasnt nessesarily metal... the top three were: 3. Jimmy Page; 2. Jimi Hendrix; 1. Eddie Van Halen... it was well done, i would suggest that for a good top list, realy many top list, and it has a ten year old featured article about Metallica from 1994!
     
nefarious_zemog wrote on 09/11/2004 - 04:36 am / quote |
theonlybman:
I disagree, because I think bands like the Beatles, Zepplin, Linkin Park are above everyone else just in the level of they're music. Also, with your popularity contest did it ever occur to you that someone would make a Top 10 Most Popular Bands of all time list. But, you do have a point that they should not be taken that seriously. Doesn't everyone love a good debate anyway?


sounds good to me..
     
MetallicFallout wrote on 09/11/2004 - 11:05 am / quote |
Van Halen fans would complain that they aren't high enough and Metallica fans would... just complain... as always.


I am quite offended by that statement... :P
     
ilikpie wrote on 09/11/2004 - 01:09 pm / quote |
haha :smoke:
     
ilikpie wrote on 09/11/2004 - 01:10 pm / quote |
haha ur all a bunch of idiots get a life
     
VaiSatchFan wrote on 09/15/2004 - 10:29 pm / quote |
You suck at the Internet
     
xdespairfactor wrote on 09/16/2004 - 12:07 pm / quote |
i came on this article hopign for perhaps a paradoy or ironic top ten reasons why lists are pointless, at least good for a quick smile, but this is genuinley pathetic.


heh me too
     
clichealias wrote on 09/18/2004 - 11:03 pm / quote |
Nice article.. I love your sarcastic tone.
     
Damage_Inc_suey wrote on 09/20/2004 - 02:56 pm / quote |
I disagree, because I think bands like the Beatles, Zepplin, Linkin Park are above everyone else just in the level of they're music.

I like Linkin Park but god, they shouldn't be next to Zepplin. Metallica and Hendrix should .Lists suck too many good bands for there to be a #1
     
metOLIca wrote on 09/21/2004 - 02:46 am / quote |
do you know whats even more pointless than writing top ten lists, its writting pointless posts about how point less top 10 lists are, think about it. top ten lists are fun and they make conversation. writting about how pointless they are resorts to things like;

Donahue2:
man, a plane didn't hit the Pentagon. There was no plane debrits, the pentagon security camera captured something much smaller than a bowing 747 flying extremely close to the ground and many witnesses say that they saw what looked like a missile flying towards the pentagon.


hahah thats why top ten lists arent pointless, its a way of expessing your opinion and to see weather ppl agree with you or weather you are in the minority....
     
xJaCkALx wrote on 09/23/2004 - 06:02 pm / quote |
theonlybman:
I disagree, because I think bands like the Beatles, Zepplin, Linkin Park are above everyone else just in the level of they're music. Also, with your popularity contest did it ever occur to you that someone would make a Top 10 Most Popular Bands of all time list. But, you do have a point that they should not be taken that seriously. Doesn't everyone love a good debate anyway?
[POSTED: 09 September 2004 - 15:43]|


you watch too much mtv. first, theres an E in zeppElin. also, never again put linkin park next to led zeppelin.
     
darkstar9814 wrote on 09/23/2004 - 07:13 pm / quote |
so true
     
urgey_rock wrote on 09/25/2004 - 01:23 pm / quote |
Actually, there is no E in Zepplin. The bands name is purposely mispelt Led Zepplin, which would actually be spelt Lead Zeppelin. But I see where you're comin from...
     
Ash_Lawrence wrote on 10/07/2004 - 12:06 pm / quote |
Waste of space article
     
thumbwar123 wrote on 10/09/2004 - 11:33 am / quote |
there really is no use to a top ten list or any kind of "top" list because everyones is different
     
rubyaccuracy wrote on 11/07/2004 - 04:51 am / quote |
Top 10 Reasons Not to Write a Stupid Article About Top 10 Lists:

1. Because it will get you on a Top 10 List of stupid articles
2. See 1
3. See 2
4. See 3
5. See 4
6. See 5
7. See 6
8. See 7
9. See 8
10.See 9
     
rachellee wrote on 11/30/2004 - 02:45 pm / quote |
top ten lists suck
     
grimreaper65 wrote on 12/21/2004 - 12:04 am / quote |
would've been funny if it was called "top ten reasons why top ten lists are pointless" irony at it's best
     
Bulletbass man wrote on 12/21/2004 - 12:47 pm / quote |
aaa whats the point of this article other than u don't like top ten lists
     
MatsumotoHideto wrote on 12/23/2004 - 09:02 pm / quote |
I'd use top 10 lists for kindling....I'd wrap salmon in it...I'd use it to plug the leak in my basement...but they're good for arguing with your friends
     
Danne55 wrote on 03/17/2005 - 11:38 am / quote |
Ok nice article. Well written
     
sim_1113 wrote on 12/30/2008 - 03:41 pm / quote |
oh yea? well i dont like The Beatles or Led Zepplin or jimi hendrix or eric clapton or joe satriani or jimmy page! I like Pantera and Damageplan and Metallica and Trivium and Slayer and Lamb of God!

Metal up your ass! lol
     
sim_1113 wrote on 12/30/2008 - 03:47 pm / quote |
Dimebag Darrell is the best guitarist ever, of all time, END OF STORY. If you think any differently.... well, then F**K YOU!!!

lol
     
KurtCobain69 wrote on 12/30/2009 - 08:12 am / quote |
what about dimebag darrel or kurt cobain
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