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Basic Tips On Guitar Solos

author: rufi date: 12/11/2003 category: music theory
rating: 6.8 / votes: 21 
POSTED: 12/11/2003 - 07:00 am
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SRVGuitarFreak :
I disagree about keeping it in one position, that will only make for a boring solo in my opiion. You need to start maybe low for example then peak at the top then fall back or fall back then peak again at the end, Or maybe start at the top and bring it halfway down or whatever the possibilities are endless. But other than that it's alright,
POSTED: 12/11/2003 - 08:33 am / quote |
phil_axe-man :
you should not be trying to teach others!!!
POSTED: 12/11/2003 - 09:06 am / quote |
RandyFunk :
Agreed. You still have a lot to learn bud.
POSTED: 12/11/2003 - 10:13 am / quote |
Bubonic Chronic :
Good basic intro for beginners. I like your comment about repeated notes. Still, a solo can be written in the absence of scales as well. (Here's where eeyoredragon or somebody tears me a new asshole, lol.) You can play "outside" as well as in, and some very effective things can come out of that. A good solo is difficult to define. Some of the best are three damn notes! Still others utilize 20 different scales from Istanbul to Beijing, lightning chromatic runs and a series of altered arpeggios. "Good" is subjective, and many players who have developed a great deal of prowess - i.e. they can whip out some Steve Vai shred - can't improv to save their lives. Some of the old blues artists couldn't read a note! Still, I challenge anyone (even Steve Vai) to out-solo some of those originals. Hats off to the old blues cats!
POSTED: 12/11/2003 - 11:24 am / quote |
Oswald :
I belevie that you can make good solos the way this guy is saying but if you have played longer and are good you can do it more challenging and difficult.
POSTED: 12/11/2003 - 02:48 pm / quote |
TenTonHammer :
i think this is a good article for people who have no clue on how to begin with soloing, nice work!
POSTED: 12/11/2003 - 05:14 pm / quote |
Tom Martin :
you sure those scales are right?
aint nothing like the ones i play :S

POSTED: 12/11/2003 - 05:15 pm / quote |
scheck006 :
good job, I tried doing a lesson on something similar to this but they didn't accept it,
it was how to link scales without sounding bad

POSTED: 12/11/2003 - 06:51 pm / quote |
Kai-7 :
its a good lesson for an intro into lead playing. Although i would suggest learning the blues scale first. As most songs have a chord progression that suits the blues scale. oh, and try listening to Gary Moore's "blues for greeny" and playin over the top of that . good practice. nice Work btw,
POSTED: 12/11/2003 - 07:46 pm / quote |
orestm :
heres what i use for a normal major scale... less moving around the fret board.

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POSTED: 12/12/2003 - 01:15 am / quote |
orestm :
booo that didnt work...ill try again..

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POSTED: 12/12/2003 - 01:18 am / quote |
Bubonic Chronic :
A Major scale is just a series of whole and half steps (a whole step is two frets, a half step is one fret.)

It goes: Whole Whole Half Whole Whole Whole Half

Arrange that pattern beginning at some point on the guitar and continue until it ends, then start over where you ended the last series of notes. It can take a variety of shapes (seven, actually) if you arrange in starting from various places in the scale, and it will take a different for when and if it crosses the b string, in which case everything simply moves up an extra fret when you cross over from the g to b string (and down a fret when going the other way.)

Textbooks are full of different shapes, some of them have three notes per string, but this generally causes some finger strain and fatigue, but it makes picking easier and cleaner. Other books focus on the left hand, making it easier to fret, but usually one string will only have two notes on it, which makes picking the scale more difficult - so it's a matter of opinion: construct scales to facilitate picking or construct scales to reduce finger strain on the fretting hand.

POSTED: 12/12/2003 - 12:40 pm / quote |
Kick The Cars :
Great, another person who doesn't know the first thing about soloing giving advice. Almost NO ONE uses the major scale in improvisation. And, like others pointed out, there are more positions of those scales. Also, the key to having VARIETY IN SOLOS is to not just stick to the scale patterns, but to use the notes in that song's key and only use strict scale patterns for build-ups and such.
POSTED: 12/12/2003 - 04:39 pm / quote |
UseYourBrain :
Can some one that no 'more' than this guy write an article for soloing. All I know is pentatonic and major and minor scales. I must be just as bad as this guy.

Although when it come to pentatonic scales I can play them like a mother***er.

POSTED: 12/12/2003 - 07:16 pm / quote |
better_unsaid :
dude, those scales r ****ed up, or just mnore confusing- i agree with orestm
POSTED: 12/13/2003 - 10:18 am / quote |
rufi :
dude if u r a pro then think about the peole just startin u b******s. i DID say that it was the basics u dumasses
POSTED: 12/13/2003 - 11:01 am / quote |
rufi :
BTW thanx 2 the peeps who made good comments
POSTED: 12/13/2003 - 11:02 am / quote |
Kick The Cars :
For starting out, this doesn't really help very much, because you didn't put the minor scale or provide some charts with all the notes in a particular key. Solos aren't just going up and down scales..
POSTED: 12/13/2003 - 11:47 am / quote |
pinkerton :
I dont even like solos really, they are just a guitarist showing off in the middle of a song basically. I would rather see people playing more complex lead lines that don't cut into the middle of the song.
POSTED: 12/13/2003 - 12:34 pm / quote |
Mark :
I think this is a very usefull article, no mather what you people say. Thanks Rufi
POSTED: 12/13/2003 - 01:36 pm / quote |
bennybeast1 :
what abput the pentatonic minor scale? Thats the scale mostly associated with rock music. Shame on you, hang your head in shame.
POSTED: 12/13/2003 - 04:29 pm / quote |
scheck006 :
good job, it is a good way to show people the way if their lost, although I'm against the theory that their is one way to learn guitar...

...usefull

POSTED: 12/13/2003 - 09:23 pm / quote |
 
 m 
  :
this article has been useful to many a UG'er. it does only cover BASICS.

we must keep this is mind. this article wasnt meant for brilliant guitar players that enjoy ripping their guitar to shreds. this is for the newer guitar player, obviously. the only thing wrong i can see with it is IF the writer is an experienced guitar player and believes in keeping it in one position no matter what your skill level.... if that is how he plays, i do have a problem with it. but i assume it is implied that this is purely for beginners.

the only true problem that is evident is that the idea of scales is introduced a bit too quick. i could write three or four large articles on introducing scales to a beginner. this article does it a bit too quick and assumes the reader is very smart and deductive.

otherwise, 'tis a great article.

oh.... and all spam deleted. (HendrixMOJO or whatever your name is.... STOP the useless posts consisting of "lol" or "^^". keep the stuff on topic and useful)

POSTED: 12/14/2003 - 01:44 am / quote |
Atreideslegend :
ok i no this is for begginners and everythin but i still think u should try to encourage them to move around and learn scales across the whole fretboard. Its much easier later on if u learn scales completely earlier...something i wish i had dun.
POSTED: 12/14/2003 - 11:51 am / quote |
Atreideslegend :
ok i no this is for guitar newbies but still i think u should encourage them to play scales across as much of the board as possible. Learnining to move around freely and know the scales all across the board helps alot in later guitar playing. And wots this about ure hand dieing if u play to fast??? if ure hand aches when playing u gotta relax into it and dont press so hard on ure strings...makes for much faster playing. apart from that though thumbs up \m/
POSTED: 12/14/2003 - 11:55 am / quote |
teabag :
me too-my scales don't look like yours, rufi.
POSTED: 12/14/2003 - 12:41 pm / quote |
 
 m 
  :
oh jeebus... spam deleted again.
POSTED: 12/14/2003 - 03:35 pm / quote |
Johnie86 :
C'mon guys i mean all the guy did was write out some of the basics, so what! U gonna crucify him coz he didnt write all 5 pentatonic scales , mixolodian , dorian ... well i suppose some people feel slightly big headed!
oh and a msg to "Kick the cars" > it's just u who cant use the major scale for soloing koz such guitarists such as slash and Yngwie Malsteem often if not constantly use them! LOOSER!!

POSTED: 12/15/2003 - 05:48 am / quote |
Darkpsyde213 :
If anyone wants to know scales and modes, try website. It helped me with a lot of my questions. The site's incomplete at this moment, but it has more than enough for beginners (section on solos is incomplete). Run through the lessons available at your own pace (I learned all 5 of the pentatonic minor scale modes in one night). I spent about one hour on each mode...good for me, bad for my fingers). It has the basic shape for all modes in both the pentatonic major and minor scales as well as the standard major and minor scales. They should encompass any of the other scales/modes that people will use. I hope this helps anyone who needs it. And by the way, Kick the Cars, you're an ass!! You say almost no one uses the major scale...well if hardly anyone uses it, then wouldn't it make more sense for someone who is looking to be more unique (notice I said more unique as opposed to unique) in their soloing/expression to use it instead of the more commonly used scales? Stop
POSTED: 12/15/2003 - 05:35 pm / quote |
Darkpsyde213 :
If anyone wants to know scales and modes, try website. It helped me with a lot of my questions. The site's incomplete at this moment, but it has more than enough for beginners (section on solos is incomplete). Run through the lessons available at your own pace (I learned all 5 of the pentatonic minor scale modes in one night). I spent about one hour on each mode...good for me, bad for my fingers). It has the basic shape for all modes in both the pentatonic major and minor scales as well as the standard major and minor scales. They should encompass any of the other scales/modes that people will use. I hope this helps anyone who needs it. And by the way, Kick the Cars, you're an ass!! You say almost no one uses the major scale...well if hardly anyone uses it, then wouldn't it make more sense for someone who is looking to be more unique (notice I said more unique as opposed to unique) in their soloing/expression to use it instead of the more commonly used scales? Stop hatin' just because you couldn't think of a decent lesson to write. Good article, rufi.
POSTED: 12/15/2003 - 05:36 pm / quote |
Darkpsyde213 :
theorylessons.com
POSTED: 12/15/2003 - 05:37 pm / quote |
michael_bryant :
I thought this is a great article! i've printed it off for Adam the guitarist in my band, another tip, don't bend strings too much on solo's. i just sounds awful!!!
POSTED: 12/18/2003 - 01:02 pm / quote |
Oswald :
WLUAAAAAAAAAAAAA NASHAGALAAAA !!!!!!!!
It means that People=Shit.....

POSTED: 12/20/2003 - 06:47 am / quote |
jimpanzee :
bollocks article mate.
POSTED: 12/20/2003 - 06:32 pm / quote |
rufi :
well soz to those who think its a load of bollocks but i did stress the meanin of the article u dipwads. OK, im not an expert at guitar but im still learnin. for f*cks sake its taken me 7 years to learn everythin i hav an i thought that this wud b enough 4 beginners. sorry if i out in things that shud hav been explained more, but no matter what i aint takin stick from pricks who just want to put me down. so F*CK U!!
POSTED: 12/30/2003 - 04:13 pm / quote |
rufi :
well soz to those who think its a load of bollocks but i did stress the meanin of the article u dipwads. OK, im not an expert at guitar but im still learnin. for f*cks sake its taken me 7 years to learn everythin i hav an i thought that this wud b enough 4 beginners. sorry if i put in things that shud hav been explained more, but no matter what i aint takin stick from pricks who just want to put me down. so F*CK U!!
POSTED: 12/30/2003 - 04:13 pm / quote |
psychoshredder :
OK, I think this article has a few flaws. personally, I feel it's been rushed. Nice try, rufi, but it's like trying to cram an elephant into a mouse-hole. I think that to make a top-notch article on soloing, the things like scales need to be discussed BEFORE any concept of soloing. And before you ask, yes, I am considering writing an article on the subject myself.
However, the article does redeem itself by displaying some very unorthodox methods of playing the major and major pentatonic scales (I wouldn't use them personally, but someone may find them handy) and, as for bennybeast1, in case you didn't realise, the blues scale pattern in there practically IS the minor pentatonic scale, with one more note added. That's the point. It's a way to liven up pentatonics in rock soloing.
Anyway, that's my $0.02...

POSTED: 02/14/2004 - 11:14 am / quote |
morgasm :
im a beginner and i found it helpful!! and dun go on about me not understandin majors etc, i play piano. stupid bein "poopy" oooh, im so harsh.
POSTED: 02/28/2004 - 07:40 pm / quote |
DeadIdentity81 :
Being that i studied theory this is basically what my g tech taught ,e in the beginning like ur scale should always start 3 frets down from your chord if u play a g the root chord would be b if im correct something like that lol
POSTED: 03/22/2004 - 03:15 am / quote |
`NeXxuS` :
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this is

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POSTED: 04/02/2004 - 12:16 am / quote |
`NeXxuS` :
didnt know code tags didnt work.
POSTED: 04/02/2004 - 12:16 am / quote |
geetarjames :
Good job! Teaching beginning students I start with the minor pent (form 1.) Its important they know where their roots are. Afer they know the roots go on to the 3rds 5ths etc. You can turn a minor pent into a major by putting your pinky on the first note and playing the same pattern. After that you can go on to the minor and major scales. YES the major scale is important. Whoever posted that needs another hobby. Upon knowing the major scale it is easy to build the rest of the modes on it. If done correctly this is about 8 to 10 weeks of instruction. To do it well takes a lifetime.
POSTED: 05/04/2004 - 02:53 am / quote |
chinko :
we need one on bass solo's!
POSTED: 06/10/2004 - 08:14 pm / quote |
blistabass :
u suck
POSTED: 06/17/2004 - 12:51 am / quote |
slash_andrew :
the scales are pretty helpful, but a solo always came out of you, like something the song makes you feel,
POSTED: 07/04/2004 - 03:47 am / quote |
rufi :
Thanks for the comments (the ones that were good anyway), maybe when I write other articles I'll put in more detail. I just thought that what's there would do for those starting up. Oh well....
Blistabass, your lameness is lame

POSTED: 07/16/2004 - 10:37 am / quote |
rasputina :
hmmm i was taught how to do my blues pentatonic scale differently
POSTED: 08/27/2004 - 12:10 am / quote |
GayPower :
First you must know what all the notes mean ie a,b,c,d,e,f,g and a#,ab,b#,bb,c#,cb etc etc etc
Then you must know all the chords. Aha you ask...how? Simple.
A chord = a, c, e etc etc
B chord = etc etc etc
and so forth except for diminsihed chords which are used in jazz.

So how does this work? Well ok, I'll explain the chords.
A is number 1 note, B is number 2 etc etc etc

So how does that work? ok

Chords must have 3 notes and a root and 3rd and 5th. simple!

So next learn scales and fingerpicking and speed picking and hammer ons and pulloffs.

Then get a drummer and play some chords and do some licks something like this.

e---1 5
B-- ..6 7 8
D--- ..etc etc etc
G---
A---
E---


e---..5~~~


Just do whatever chords sounds good over whatever kind of licks you play.

Next you must learn Arpeggios and pentantonics.

How? Well an Arpeggio is a sequence of notes making a harmoney.
A pentatonic is very similar to an arpeggio except you speed pick it as
fast as you can. (Like Zakk wylde's Apreggios)

Also buy the Malmsteen videos, they take a while but are quite good to learn.

Anyways, any questions? Please don't ask wait for my next article.

Rock on dudes

POSTED: 10/25/2004 - 03:42 pm / quote |
supernashwankid :
It's neccessary to keep it all in one position when you first start out. Once you know your way around the fretboard a bit better, you can move around and explore. After all, none of us picked it up in one play, I'm still experimenting when I play. Not a bad article, but not the greatest.
POSTED: 12/16/2004 - 03:58 pm / quote |
ChordProgressiv :
For me, making a solo doesn't involve following a scale or anything. When I write something, I do it one of two ways, either I mess about with chord picking in different positions on the neck, or I recreate whatever sound I have in my head note for note.
POSTED: 01/16/2005 - 05:20 pm / quote |
JPGR93 :
What ever happen to the solos like the one's Harrison played in the Beatles. For example the solo from "All My Loving" sounds great, fits the song, isn't crazy/ lightning fast, but still gets the job done. You don't have to be Van Halen or Slash to make a sweet solo you can make a solo out of picking a couple of quirky chords. So get over it the guy did a decent job of getting the basics laid down, I don't see any of you out there writing a better article...
POSTED: 01/23/2005 - 07:26 pm / quote |
spuddy999 :
i really hate a kid named mike h
POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 01:24 pm / quote |
rabbicd :
i'm gay
POSTED: 08/08/2005 - 03:23 am / quote |
Narky :
"Use as much of the fingerboard as possible. Do not stay in any one area of the guitar for more than a phrase or two. Using the whole neck may feel awkward and goes against the principle of "economy in motion," but it will give you an individual sound that adds character and definition to your playing."
POSTED: 09/30/2005 - 10:51 pm / quote |
Killerguitarist :
Good stuff, way to explain the freestyle of soloing. You could make the scales easier to play though. I know some ways. But I am too damn lazy to write them out . Peace.
POSTED: 02/04/2006 - 11:36 am / quote |
Malakian=God :
Didnt really help me at all. Sorry

POSTED: 04/11/2006 - 11:25 am / quote |
guitartarot :
just play if your by yourself but if you are playing with other people use every trick you have like useing modes the notes of the scale in other places.


POSTED: 04/15/2006 - 12:25 pm / quote |
skippy18 :
recently i bought a guitar scale book and it has really helped me with my solos...this wasn't the best article but he's on the right track. i give you props for trying to help.
POSTED: 08/27/2006 - 02:08 am / quote |
Mikeeman95 :
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I use this one...

POSTED: 08/11/2007 - 08:55 am / quote |
Mikeeman95 :
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sorry it kinda messed up, it's actually this one...

POSTED: 08/11/2007 - 08:59 am / quote |
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