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How About Harmonizing: Part 2

author: SethMegadefan date: 02/07/2006 category: music theory
rating: 9.5 / votes: 39 
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 09:29 am
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 51 
 comments posted
Four Symbols :
1st... nice article already do a lot of harmonizing, but it was still interesting to read
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 10:04 am / quote |
boyofmystery :
2nd...nice article
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 10:25 am / quote |
thomas_wh :
Nice. I was hoping for more examples of harmonizing and using counterpoint, maybe some analyzed parts of songs and also harmonizing with other instruments like violins, vocals or maybe bass. Anyways nice work.
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 10:56 am / quote |
Brooky22888 :
Good article, thank you! It has cleared up a few grey areas that I had with harmonies. I think a few more examples and analysis of these would have helped too like thomas_wh said but otherwise it's really neat.
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 11:18 am / quote |
Rivers :
great article, but i could go for a part 3, one of the few worthwhile articles on UG these days.
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 11:35 am / quote |
LightningLicks :
Nice article. As said above, a few more examples would be nice but I've learned quite a lot from this and Part 1

POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 01:56 pm / quote |
guitarbreaker :
good article it would also be nice to hear even know this mixing vocals and instruments like another person said, also maybe give ideas about dissonance.
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 02:16 pm / quote |
n0e :
ya lets hear one on how to harmonize a bass with a chord progression :
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 02:55 pm / quote |
steinmann :
interesting
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 04:35 pm / quote |
metal4all :
very nice article. well done
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 04:40 pm / quote |
takamine&crate :
thomas_wh wrote:

Nice. I was hoping for more examples of harmonizing and using counterpoint, maybe some analyzed parts of songs and also harmonizing with other instruments like violins, vocals or maybe bass. Anyways nice work.


I agree, but that is a little more difficult, maybe a lesson or two later, but other than that, an amazing beginner/intermediate article

POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 04:46 pm / quote |
tamargoguitar :
very good man.. you have a talent to make things sound interesting.. i think you should write in newspapers and stuff ur really good! good job on this article really got everything covered...doesnt the interlude of master of puppets also use harmonizing?
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 06:23 pm / quote |
wonderboy47 :
Nice article. A part 3 would be nice.
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 07:36 pm / quote |
cointurtlemoose :
Good job and not bad, but still just a little too simple.
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 07:42 pm / quote |
msierragtz :
Great...
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 08:00 pm / quote |
pytolk :
this is really cool!!
thanks!!

POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 09:07 pm / quote |
SethMegadefan :
Thanks for all the feedback, everyone. I had considered giving examples like I did in Part 1, but for some reason it just slipped my mind. I might consider a Part 3, giving more examples and advanced harmonizing (even dissonance, as guitarbreaker said). It's good to know that people are actually learning from this stuff, so really, thanks guys!
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 09:57 pm / quote |
amadeus_ondi :
thanks for the tips... nice jobs
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 10:07 pm / quote |
amadeus_ondi :
cointurtlemoose
wrote:

Good job and not bad, but still just a little too simple.


what the hell? harmony is definitely simple, so there's no simplization.

POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 10:10 pm / quote |
TyphoidSpider :
Great article, yeah, one about dissonance would be good because i haven't got the slightest idea what it is. Thanks
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 11:30 pm / quote |
powerstroke :
This article rocked majorly. The only thing I had issues with was my dad was explaining this to me earlier today in the car, but you explained it 40x better.
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 12:22 am / quote |
cap'nkirk :
you're awesome dude. thanks!
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 12:23 am / quote |
metalmaniac_13 :
NICE ;
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 02:09 am / quote |
Guitardude19 :
Good article. Just a little thing I wanna check - When harmonizing to a minor key, you can only harmonize in the natural minor when descending but not when ascending in that scale. So you would use your melodic minor when ascending (by sharpening the 6th and 7th degree) but use the natural minor when descending.... or am I just over complicating things?
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 06:25 am / quote |
Fat-Man :
Sweet article, Props..... The harmonizing is genious. you're awesome
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 07:40 am / quote |
NFFC_1865 :
It doesn't sound boring if you play a harmony all with the same interval. It depends on the circusmstances as you should play what sounds best not conform to rules!
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 11:25 am / quote |
hell_rais3r :
Another great article, nice one mate
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 01:53 pm / quote |
grungegod11 :
pretty good. Harmonizing is great especially for classical music. I love playing both parts takes a lot of time but its very intresting. Having two guitarist playing two different parts sounds like one guitar with 3 people harmonizing. Its insane
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 02:19 pm / quote |
lo fi nights :
great article my friend, very helpful to me
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 11:09 pm / quote |
ooblah :
damn i gotta learn all my scales, good article though man! is it important that you memorize every mode of every key though? or should i just learn a good chunk?
POSTED: 02/09/2006 - 12:42 am / quote |
redSG :
i didnt realize this stuff was considered advanced. is it?? hmm... i learned pretty much all of this alone in my room when i was like 15 and experimenting with piano. now that i play guitar i imply everything that i know about music theory and chord relativity. i wish i could get together with u seth and see what we each know. i love the fellowship of music geeks
POSTED: 02/09/2006 - 06:57 am / quote |
redSG :
oh yeah. and a difference btw/ you and me is that youre a great teacher of what you know, and i am not.
POSTED: 02/09/2006 - 06:59 am / quote |
zbones :
does anyone know what piece is that by J. S. Bach in the counterpoint section? great thing to play for practise... muchos gracias fellas
POSTED: 02/12/2006 - 12:51 am / quote |
SethMegadefan :
It's the Bourree. I think I stated that in there, too.
If you want the link to a great tab of it, [url=http://classtab.org/jsb0996b.txt]here's[/url] one.

POSTED: 02/12/2006 - 10:07 am / quote |
SethMegadefan :
^Damn it, url tags don't work here. But you can probably just type that url into the address bar and it'll still take you there.
POSTED: 02/12/2006 - 10:08 am / quote |
Erich yeung :
cool article

good tip on how to find relative minors is to simply count up three half steps.

POSTED: 02/12/2006 - 09:44 pm / quote |
zbones :
Thanks a lot for the title and the link! you did mention the title but i missed it, sorry about that. Great article, i enjoyed it very much and found it quite inspirational. Thanks!
POSTED: 02/13/2006 - 12:32 am / quote |
TheUltimateSin :
Once again Seth, you have amazed me with brilliance. Kudos on a job well done.
POSTED: 02/13/2006 - 09:43 pm / quote |
SvnStringMaster :
well i didn't read this article or the other one, but i can tell you right now, harmonizing owns.
POSTED: 02/15/2006 - 06:14 am / quote |
Muppet :
great article. The song you tabbed is awesome.
POSTED: 02/18/2006 - 05:55 am / quote |
namesR4squares :
Awesome article! It cleared up some stuff i was unsure about, thanx
POSTED: 02/19/2006 - 09:31 am / quote |
BrokenWingman :
I really enjoyed playing the classical example. Good stuff.
POSTED: 03/04/2006 - 01:55 pm / quote |
wanna_lick_me? :
****ing sweet brother!
POSTED: 03/05/2006 - 10:17 am / quote |
pranav :
gr8 article
POSTED: 04/22/2006 - 03:44 pm / quote |
Forged-Alliance :
I like the article man, although I have one qaualm (and I could be dead wrong...so if I am clear me up!)
as far as I know counterpoint between two notes only exist if the rythm is different as well as the actual musical notes.

For example I have like 40 or 50 fugues(classical pieces that are basically composed to be nearly 100% counterpoint) that senior Johann Bach composed and the rythms for all the melodys are different.

Maybe that is a technicallity that is disputed? Maybe I'm just plain wrong.

Other than that, great article, espeically the relative minor stuff!

POSTED: 12/12/2006 - 10:55 pm / quote |
stefanHBHB :
USING A HARMONIZING PEDAL, WOULD I BE ABLE TO GET THE "AVENGED SEVENFOLD" SOUND???
-thanks to anyone who answers

POSTED: 12/22/2006 - 10:18 am / quote |
eltrentoro :
Yes, you can play any two or more of those notes together in any order, and no matter what it'll sound good.


What about root and maj7? I've never studied formally (yet... college will be awesome), but everything I've read basically says "avoid the major 7th"

POSTED: 06/03/2007 - 12:28 am / quote |
mrbiscuits315 :
half way thro the second article thats enought learning for today.
POSTED: 08/16/2007 - 09:20 pm / quote |
Beavshak :
i'm finally starting to get it (i hope)
POSTED: 09/15/2007 - 10:15 pm / quote |
NinjaLamppost :
This is really good, I wrote something (only 6 bars long) with a I IV V C major progression using the C major scale and it sounded REALLY good.

One question I do have though, is whenever I write something, whether it's using the minor, pentatonic or major scale, it sounds good, but it doesn't sound at all rockish/metalish etc. ...I've tried lots of different things, and I'm a bit confused can anyone help?

POSTED: 01/03/2009 - 06:34 am / quote |
Jordan-xero :
stefanHBHB wrote:

USING A HARMONIZING PEDAL, WOULD I BE ABLE TO GET THE "AVENGED SEVENFOLD" SOUND???
-thanks to anyone who answers

Okay that all depends on how you set the intervals on the pedal and the intervals that are actually used. I am a big fan of a7x and have realized through playing their songs, it just sounds much better when you play the harmonies with another guitarist instead of a pedal because the pedal sounds so...mechanical...fake. It just cant match having another person to play with.

POSTED: 01/28/2009 - 07:44 pm / quote |
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