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Melody Ideas

author: The_Sophist date: 05/18/2009 category: music theory
rating: 8.1 / votes: 36 
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 07:01 am
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Kaos_00 :
This progression has been so often it hurts, but we’re gonna use it one more time, because I said so.


You're still missing a word in there.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 08:41 am / quote |
Kaos_00 :
Still good. I look forward to seeing you do more lessons. I like to read your thoughts on theory.
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 08:44 am / quote |
ragt427 :
Interesting ideas. I'll use them more often in the future.
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 10:53 am / quote |
Wolfsblood138 :
Some good ideas here, I never really thought of extending a chord to out of key tones because when I was starting out a lot of people would say a note or two in a guitar solo was out of key. But I'll try it again.
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 11:22 am / quote |
TheAristocrat :
Probably the most thought out article I have read on here. This article is far more useful than many would think.
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 04:00 pm / quote |
Wolffgang :
Brilliant article, would love to see more like it;

Reminds me of my earlier days of bumbling around in the dark just going by feel; which is fine, if extremely limiting.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 04:42 pm / quote |
wesselbindt :
Kaos_00 wrote:

This progression has been so often it hurts, but we’re gonna use it one more time, because I said so.

You're still missing a word in there.


Wow, I didn't even notice at the third time I read it.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 04:50 pm / quote |
Zao_89 :
Kaos_00 wrote:
You're still missing a word in there.

Looks like he accidentaly a word.

POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 08:19 pm / quote |
aldo47 :
this really helped me
POSTED: 05/18/2009 - 10:25 pm / quote |
Dregen :
I figured the vast majority of this material out through my own experimentation, but this article would be really good for those who don't know about it.
POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 12:16 pm / quote |
The_Sophist :
Ya, I know I'm missing a word, don't really care.
POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 04:14 pm / quote |
lowbudgetband :
Wow, good advice. I think this might just be the stepping stone I need to get out of the rut I've been in. Thanks!
POSTED: 05/19/2009 - 11:53 pm / quote |
josuetijuana :
useful theory, but i just like to trust my ear =D

incredible if you got absolutely no idea what you are going to write next

POSTED: 05/20/2009 - 01:51 am / quote |
Cachao :
Yeah, I always use my ear-but this really doesn't hurt and if I can't hear anything I'll be using these right away, thanks.

*bookmarked*

POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 01:17 pm / quote |
Fatal Instinct :
Useful information, however it was presented in a way that makes me feel as if the writer is arrogant. Would be much more useful with a mentor-like tone to the article.
POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 03:21 pm / quote |
Jondy :
embellishments have nothing to do with writing a melody. embellishments are to embellish an already made melody.

You covered some of the very rigid basics, which is to say, you can use chord notes, or you could use... not chord notes. use scales. woo hoo.

also, the most important aspect of creating a melody? that wasn't at all covered? rhythm. it's like you think every melody should be composed entirely of quarter notes.

you can make a beatiful sounding melody only using very few notes. the trick is how long the notes play, it builds the melody that is supposed to resemble human coversation and voice.

POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 03:31 pm / quote |
The_Sophist :
Jondy wrote:

embellishments have nothing to do with writing a melody. embellishments are to embellish an already made melody.

You covered some of the very rigid basics, which is to say, you can use chord notes, or you could use... not chord notes. use scales. woo hoo.

also, the most important aspect of creating a melody? that wasn't at all covered? rhythm. it's like you think every melody should be composed entirely of quarter notes.

you can make a beatiful sounding melody only using very few notes. the trick is how long the notes play, it builds the melody that is supposed to resemble human coversation and voice.


Exactly what part of "not a tutorial" don't you understand?

POSTED: 05/21/2009 - 08:25 pm / quote |
jean_genie :
Jondy wrote:

embellishments have nothing to do with writing a melody. embellishments are to embellish an already made melody.

You covered some of the very rigid basics, which is to say, you can use chord notes, or you could use... not chord notes. use scales. woo hoo.

also, the most important aspect of creating a melody? that wasn't at all covered? rhythm. it's like you think every melody should be composed entirely of quarter notes.

you can make a beatiful sounding melody only using very few notes. the trick is how long the notes play, it builds the melody that is supposed to resemble human coversation and voice.

I disagree. Writing a melody, at least to me, is about figuring out where all the notes start and end up - figuring out what to play in the middle is more of an arrangement thing. I think we can all agree that Bob Dylan wrote the melody to All Along the Watchtower, while Hendrix just rearranged it and filled in some gaps. If figuring out where to put each individual note is 'writing a melody', then I'd like to play you some Led Zeppelin songs that I helped write.
Fatal Instinct wrote:

Useful information, however it was presented in a way that makes me feel as if the writer is arrogant. Would be much more useful with a mentor-like tone to the article.
I didn't see it as arrogant, but I guess that depends on your sense of humour. The username doesn't help with that though. Nor do some of the things mentioned in the comments section.

But he started strong.

POSTED: 05/22/2009 - 01:16 am / quote |
ElBarto2811 :
Very useful, thanks a bunch
POSTED: 05/22/2009 - 03:31 am / quote |
Jondy :
The_Sophist wrote:

Jondy wrote:

embellishments have nothing to do with writing a melody. embellishments are to embellish an already made melody.

You covered some of the very rigid basics, which is to say, you can use chord notes, or you could use... not chord notes. use scales. woo hoo.

also, the most important aspect of creating a melody? that wasn't at all covered? rhythm. it's like you think every melody should be composed entirely of quarter notes.

you can make a beatiful sounding melody only using very few notes. the trick is how long the notes play, it builds the melody that is supposed to resemble human coversation and voice.

Exactly what part of "not a tutorial" don't you understand?


...the part where those words were not anywhere at?

POSTED: 05/22/2009 - 03:37 am / quote |
MistaRecta :
Melodies are a connection to the earthereal plane of music. If you are truely musical you can find a melody in realtime, as in no processing required. f you can't do this, find someone who can and write with them, otherwise learn to shred really fast, people think it's great and you'll still look like a musician!
POSTED: 05/22/2009 - 12:25 pm / quote |
JohnKnee317 :
Out of key tones are usually dissonant, although not always.

Out of key tones are always dissonant, by definition. Some are less dissonant sounding than others, but all out of key tones are dissonant.

POSTED: 05/23/2009 - 05:42 pm / quote |
Ricebag Darrel :
Zao_89 wrote:

Kaos_00 wrote:
You're still missing a word in there.
Looks like he accidentaly a word.


hahaha, you made me laugh

POSTED: 05/23/2009 - 05:59 pm / quote |
SimplyStrings :
Interesting ideas. Thanks for sharing.
POSTED: 05/24/2009 - 09:02 pm / quote |
kwikfingers-uk :
I hate people who just pick up on typo's! this is a good article! i dont see it as arrogant, just a few of the author's own thoughts and experiences. keep up the GOOD work.
POSTED: 05/26/2009 - 08:36 am / quote |
The_Sophist :
Jondy wrote:

The_Sophist wrote:

Jondy wrote:

embellishments have nothing to do with writing a melody. embellishments are to embellish an already made melody.

You covered some of the very rigid basics, which is to say, you can use chord notes, or you could use... not chord notes. use scales. woo hoo.

also, the most important aspect of creating a melody? that wasn't at all covered? rhythm. it's like you think every melody should be composed entirely of quarter notes.

you can make a beatiful sounding melody only using very few notes. the trick is how long the notes play, it builds the melody that is supposed to resemble human coversation and voice.

Exactly what part of "not a tutorial" don't you understand?

...the part where those words were not anywhere at?


I would define something that doesn't cover every aspect of something, and is just a collection of ideas not a tutorial.

POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 10:03 am / quote |
Wiegenlied :
This is shit
POSTED: 05/27/2009 - 09:50 pm / quote |
The_Sophist :
Wiegenlied wrote:

This is shit


I know

POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 03:15 pm / quote |
Wiegenlied :
The_Sophist :
Wiegenlied wrote:

This is shit

I know


It's okay. I still love you

POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 06:40 pm / quote |
Gryphon999 :
it looks so nice and ive read these things a few times but i just cant make any sense out of it
POSTED: 06/02/2009 - 03:34 pm / quote |
The_Sophist :
Gryphon999 wrote:

it looks so nice and ive read these things a few times but i just cant make any sense out of it


PM me with specific questions and I'll try to help.

POSTED: 06/13/2009 - 01:52 am / quote |
sambargun :
Its titled Melody Ideas, not Everything About Melody. Decent article BTW. Many people can use it as a starting point and expand.....
POSTED: 06/16/2009 - 11:06 pm / quote |
zorbozate :
work of a genious this is ex. thanks for the info.
POSTED: 07/03/2009 - 09:35 pm / quote |
actaderock :
ive been searching this for years, THANKS!
POSTED: 07/03/2009 - 10:10 pm / quote |
masterofkittens :
It's funny how by this time the comments are mostly in responce to other comments that usually don't even matter and people seem to lose track of weither it was a good or bad article.(I liked it)
POSTED: 07/06/2009 - 07:11 pm / quote |
jld8111 :
C-Am-F-G is the chord progression to "Im On A Boat". Just thought id throw that out there.

POSTED: 07/21/2009 - 06:51 pm / quote |
Paul Tauterouff :
Very good lesson. A lot of guitarists think only about making guitar melodies, but you can also use this technique to write vocal melodies too.
POSTED: 07/27/2009 - 10:20 am / quote |
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