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Phrasing For Dummies

author: Freepower date: 10/04/2005 category: the guide to
rating: 9 / votes: 141 

I'm here to talk to you about why your solos don’t sound as good as your guitar heroes. The most important thing about your soloing is its phrasing. Let me say that again.

The most important thing about your soloing is its phrasing.

(I owe this insight to both Scott Henderson, and Resiliance - thanks mate, much appreciated, credit where credit due)

Right, what’s a phrase? Well, what’s a phrase in English? Yup, a collection of words. Well, a collection of notes then.

So, how you, you use words to put across the message you want? Well, you say the words.

01. With the right tone (whether or not you have God's own amp is irrelevant, I mean do you make the note wail, or "shhhhhh" it, or do you make it fast and staccato and loud?)

02. With the right rhythm (talk really damn fast all the time, you sound like a retard, we all know that. You need to space the words right, and that includes commas, full stops, even those long pauses at the ends of sentences that are written “…” . Like this one…)

03. With the right dynamics - you play the wrong note too loud, you sound like you're shouting at the listener. Do you want to shout when you shouldn’t? **** no. You want to whisper sweetest love to your girl sometimes.

That’s a lot to absorb, and I know I may seem like a hypocrite to some right now - but I'm working on my phrasing too. As should everyone.

So, for phrasing. You need dynamics, tone, and rhythm. And a lot more. You actually also need a bit of repetition. Read this paragraph:

So anyway this elephant escaped from the zoo and then I was like eating and ice cream and then I shot him and then this girl and me made sweet love and then I played the funk for people and then I did your ma hahahahahhah

Annoying, isn't it?

Well, that’s because it’s a pile of ****. A lot of people solo like that. They start with a bit of preamble and they're trying to talk really fast and show off, and then they forget to make sense. They just use any old words and then speak ****. Slow the **** down. Come up with a coherent musical idea; use it - even if as you're starting lead, it might be as simple as three unison bends and then some vibrato on the blue note! It sounds good if you just mean it and phrasing will help you sound like you mean it. Especially if you do.

They use no structure. They start with one idea (or phrase, in this case) and then just warble along in the same scale finding new ones. Don’t. Stick with it a bit. Even if it’s a boring idea and you want rid of it, spice it up a little. Think, "****, those three notes were boring. How can I help?" - try raking a few strings and then adding vibrato to them. Make it like that boring first sentence that leads to a murder mystery. Build it, and then go to a new idea. Build a whole paragraph, and then you can move onto a new one.

Notice the paragraph I wrote you was full of random shouting? Yes, that was both deliberate, and annoying. That’s akin to the people who realize their solo is eating dogs' plums so they think, "I know! I'll play the next bit really fast/vibrato-y/with a huge bend and that'll rescue this solo." It won’t. Don’t do stuff without a musical reason - don’t think that means you can’t be spontaneous, if you just FEEL "that" note is perfect, play it. But don’t just randomly break out huge sweep picking lines or huge bends that go nowhere and come from nothing.

Now, check out this paragraph, from a book called Gormenghast, which is pantcreamingly well written, although I’d rather show you how he describes rooftops, this random quote from the net will do:

"The walls of the vast room which were streaming with calid moisture, were built with gray slabs of stone and were the personal concern of a company of eighteen men known as the 'Grey Scrubbers'.... On every day of the year from three hours before daybreak until about eleven o'clock, when the scaffolding and ladders became a hindrance to the cooks, the Grey Scrubbers fulfilled their hereditary calling."

Notice the “fancy” language - imagine all those big words without the commas and punctuation separating them - now imagine a shredder playing huge impossible licks at 250bpm. Funny how they sound alike, eh?

Notice how it starts with an interesting, complex sentence - “The walls of the vast room which were streaming with calid moisture” - what does calid mean? My dictionary on word doesn’t recognize it, but I know it means that its cold, it’s wet, merely from context and phrasing. An example, perhaps, of how a “wrong” note, played “right” sounds great.

Notice that you start with the walls, you set the scene - you let people understand you’re about to describe some walls, in a vast room. Comma. Let the idea sink in. Now, we find out they’re built with these slabs of grey stone and that the grey scrubbers take care of them. Notice the smooth transition from idea to idea. Walls…walls…grey scrubbers…grey scrubbers. It’s a transition phrase there. It’s logical, flows well, but leads distinctly into a new idea.

Structure, phrasing, dynamics, rhythm, all there, in the right amounts.

Now, don’t expect to write brilliant solos from the start once you know this. It takes practice to improve, just like anything else, but it will really help to know.

So, help with phrasing, after all this talk about it? See how few notes you can make an idea with. It should be one! Then bump it up to two notes, and see what you can do with that. Then play 2 notes over a backing track - hundreds more ideas. Keep going at these exercises till you aren’t just churning out the licks you know already.

Another idea - call and response. Play a short lick, let it hang a little on a tense note - reply to it. Make a conversation.

All these language metaphors bring up this obvious idea - talk as you play. Try playing “I love you”. Soft, sweet phrasing, I'd probably be boring and play it crotchet, crotchet minim (in a count of “1, 2, 3, 4” then the first note takes up the first beat, second the second, and then the last two beats are taken up by the last note, 2 notes, and one twice the length as the others), with some gentle vibrato. Nothing wrong with clichés - they became clichés because they’re damn good ideas. Play “**** you!” - I think 2 aggressive screaming pinch harmonics with massive bends and vibrato on them. How about “Bap bap doo-wap bedap bedap?” Some jazz scatting there. Anyway, the ideas are limitless there. Once you get a sentence down, try a conversation.

Another easy device is the “Ready, steady, go!” - Short phrase, short phrase, short phrase that continues. Let me illustrate again, I may have explained that badly. Imagine a big black woman gospel singing “I just, I just, I just wanna LOOOoove you baby, Woaahhhhhh!” That’s what I’m talking about! But seriously. While clichéd once again, everyone recognizes this idea and because of that, everyone can use it effectively, you aren’t playing groups of 9 over a 4/4 backing or anything crazy. Use this kind of idea to lead into your monster riffs and everyone knows what’s coming.

For the more adventurous, there’s odd note groupings. Instead of triplets, play quintuplets, groups of five, for example. These give really interesting “unfinished” feels, I know Paul Gilbert uses them occasionally, but he plays them too fast for my ear, and I prefer them kind of slower. Septuplets (groups of 7) sound slightly “too fast” but still “in time” to my ear, which makes them interesting in a way, I don’t like them personally, but that’s all a matter of taste.

Here's a great tip I only really discovered recently. Bend slowly. Bends start somewhere, and go somewhere. Don’t hurry them. Name me a famous Slash, Vai, or Malmsteen bend bent so fast that it’s practically not there - hard to, isn’t it? Yes, those bends have a time and place too, but bend slowly and see the feel it creates.

Vibrato. Get a good one, damn it, do you know how good damn fine vibrato sounds with even decent tone? Head over here.

Rests! Don’t be scared of not soloing. Phrasing is as much the space between notes as the space they take up. Here’s a great example I stole from Berkley online - hold up your hand. You see the space the hand takes up, but you can also see the negative space that’s between your fingers, and you can change the shape of THAT with your positive space. So in other words, be leaving tense notes hanging without resolution leaves you with harsher negative space, playing straight 16ths leaves you no negative space (except staccato ones, which are really interesting listening), either creating a “irritating guitar wank” feel or frenzied noise, depending on your genre, tempo and feel.

Ah, but can you get away with shredding and phrasing, or is good phrasing restricted to the blues? Well, ****ing duh. Of course you can. I never said don’t play really damn fast. But feel the beat. Listen to No Boundaries (Speed Lives) by Michael Angelo Batio, or any of his other songs. Notice the ridiculous speeds. The insane technique. Notice also, that he uses many clever ideas to keep his music from being boring (to me) - for example, tremolo picking a single note in an alternate picking run gives the ear a little something to latch onto, and is an underused idea, in my opinion. He follows the beat strongly (or sometimes not at all) with his sweeps in Speed Lives (1:25 into the vid available free from angelo.com) - he follows the beat so strongly that despite the fact it's straight 16ths, the really strong quarter note feel still comes through. And the neoclassical solo in there is straight 8th notes in places, but a few trills and another instance of strongly following the beat is why you don’t sound as awesome as Michael Angelo.

Or perhaps you want to go Vai bonkers and really go mad like he sometimes does in his solos (a dotted 64th note and then some really weird shizzle, in some crazy instances). Not that I can help you out much at that level, but that’s another idea for you.

Here’s a link back to Berklee, I owe them now, lol. Some great tips in there, and guess what? It’s also an example of how you can learn to play better from other great instrument players. Don’t restrict yourself by learning from guitarists. Allan Holdsworth is greatly influenced by horn players, and putting the feel of an 80s, smooth, sexy, saxophone solo into your playing is nothing to be ashamed of.

Anyway, we haven’t even really started on note choice properly yet, and I don’t think I can really cover it properly, but Cas and the other theory Gurus have...

Don’t worry if that all goes over your head yet, as here are some simple ideas about melodic thinking relating to phrasing, or just some real basics to help beginners -

Well, firstly, if you’re playing a bunch of chords in the key of Em, play the solo in Em. Simple, but some people don’t realize that’s how it works. Em, Cmaj, Dmaj. There, in the key of E, play E minor over that. Muck around. Right, that’s a great way to find melodies you like - mess around. You ever heard of the word “play” in a context other than guitar? Like running around and having fun with other kids? Play your guitar. Then you can start with all this developing idea stuff.

Or perhaps you have a melody in your head? Figure it out, why not? If it sounds boring once you figure it out, meddle with your tone a bit! And add some interesting vibrato or just hit the notes with conviction, if it’s a good melody, it might need some good playing to get it out. Imagine if Steve Vai had simply picked all the notes in the main melody of For The Love Of God, rather than all those slides and with all that vibrato. Sound ****, wouldn’t it?

And if you’re messing around, keep it slow, you get me? You want a melody, not a blur.

Blurs with melody will come with time. Till then, you want to sound great without shred? Do what I’ve told you. Seriously, if you take this advice to heart and follow, you’d own me. Because you’d sound better. Seriously.

What else regarding note choice? Well, learn how things sound over another. If you play Em blues scale over Em7, what does it sound like? Play with all these idea. E Phrygian over E major sounds Spanish, no joke!

A lot of it is instinct, and that comes with time and practice. So do both. Spend time with your geetar, and practice. But remember to play too.

Anyway, peace out, have fun, stay safe, *any other clichéd goodbye*, lots of love,
-Freepower.

POSTED: 10/04/2005 - 09:35 am
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pentagram_man63 wrote on 10/04/2005 - 10:02 am / quote |
not bad although it seems strange to compare conversation to a solo...
     
Gabuydachk wrote on 10/04/2005 - 10:06 am / quote |
That was a great article. Keep them coming.
     
gilmour-page wrote on 10/04/2005 - 10:09 am / quote |
not bad man, a little long though
     
munit wrote on 10/04/2005 - 10:25 am / quote |
yep, i liked it very much, i really felt like i could understand what you were saying. thanks for the article.
     
P.B. wrote on 10/04/2005 - 10:55 am / quote |
I consider myself pretty good at soloing, and some of the things you mentioned are problems that i have dealt with in the past. good article.
     
andy_p_ wrote on 10/04/2005 - 10:57 am / quote |
Great Article
     
flytv12 wrote on 10/04/2005 - 11:05 am / quote |
thats an awesome aticle, I am already familiar with most of these ideas but i know someone who really neads to read this.
     
BoomerSVK wrote on 10/04/2005 - 11:16 am / quote |
Great article...thanks for sharing that...
I hope you'll write some more things...I like the way you get things through to others...it's easy to understand and enjoyable to read...I learned much by reading it...even if it's only theoretical knowledge...merci
Boomer
     
lindex wrote on 10/04/2005 - 11:23 am / quote |
pentagram_man63
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wrote:
not bad although it seems strange to compare conversation to a solo...


Not strange at all, think singing.
     
Pinkfloydguy wrote on 10/04/2005 - 11:27 am / quote |
That was a first class article, comparing solos to sentances and "conversations" was genuis. Sums up David Gilmours solos excellenty, listen to the second solo on Comfortably Numb, the solo represents the change from the character Pink to the facsist character, and it ****in works!!
     
aprescott_27 wrote on 10/04/2005 - 12:06 pm / quote |
pentagram_man63
wrote:

not bad although it seems strange to compare conversation to a solo...

that's exactly what music is: a conversation. During a solo, you just so happen to be doing all the talking
     
Stryker_66 wrote on 10/04/2005 - 12:10 pm / quote |
I like the analogy you use in comparing to conversation, well explained, but I think you summed it up in the first paragraph, a little too long, wordy and repetitive....lol...see I'm doing it to...haha

This is an important point which explains "why just knowing the sequence of notes is not a enough"
     
~King_Of_Foolz~ wrote on 10/04/2005 - 12:12 pm / quote |
nice work man... was reading the thread earlier.. and i think a lot of people will find this helpful if they take the time to understand the concepts your presenting here.. i know that i for one found it quite informative
     
Neon Knight wrote on 10/04/2005 - 12:35 pm / quote |
Fantastic, definatly one of the if not the best artical i've read on UG, BIG UP TO FREEPOWER
     
rusted embrace wrote on 10/04/2005 - 12:43 pm / quote |
very well done. good analogies and you broke things down to simple terms nicely.
     
KENZI wrote on 10/04/2005 - 12:50 pm / quote |
long article but highly worth reading. not in the least bit tldr
     
Jerry Monkey wrote on 10/04/2005 - 12:59 pm / quote |
hey, i liked this one... good job, gona sit down later and work some stuff out of it.
     
lespaulmaniac wrote on 10/04/2005 - 01:03 pm / quote |
sounds pretty good. ill have to try some of those ideas for myself.
     
IThinkNot wrote on 10/04/2005 - 01:03 pm / quote |
Really interesting way to look at soloing. Has good sense.
     
God withus wrote on 10/04/2005 - 01:13 pm / quote |
Great pointers for adding feel to one's own improv. 10/10
     
spee wrote on 10/04/2005 - 01:24 pm / quote |
great job freepower
     
Yerffej wrote on 10/04/2005 - 01:29 pm / quote |
cool ideas. and a good way to limit machoism
     
BLACKRAVEN wrote on 10/04/2005 - 01:45 pm / quote |
nothing new to me but a helpfull message anyway, and glad to hear steve vai getting a mention in a phrasing article.
personally i would call jimmy page the smart guy of solos but a good article dude.
RAVEN
     
thesmartguy50 wrote on 10/04/2005 - 02:56 pm / quote |
Okay, pretty much everything else here was an understatement. THIS LESSON IS FREAKIN AWESOME. Just like the ideal sentence, this column kept me hooked, and taught me something, too. I've never heard phrasing referred to as a sentence before, but neither have I heard it described so well. This author rox, no doubt.
     
Iluvpowerchords wrote on 10/04/2005 - 03:17 pm / quote |
IT's pretty good and all but stop cussing./

It's retarded.
     
johnmalkin wrote on 10/04/2005 - 03:23 pm / quote |
Well done! Its true though, you can compare music to conversation; it can express love, hate, anger, all sorts of emotion. Cheers for the great article!

PS. Those guys who don't have the attention span to read through that whole thing, find it, becasue it was well worth it.
     
Wrathchild.PT wrote on 10/04/2005 - 03:23 pm / quote |
Holy crap, awesome lesson.
     
Erc wrote on 10/04/2005 - 03:24 pm / quote |
Good job FP, now all you need to do is write an article on how to do that difficult CMAJOR ^_^

Ahh just josshin ya, read the article previously in the thread and its quite good, I like it a lot, helped my phrasing ideas =)

The analogy is golden.

     
#_of_the_beast wrote on 10/04/2005 - 03:30 pm / quote |
That was brilliant, out of anything I have ever read on soloing, that made the most sense. Thank You
     
justinhawkins wrote on 10/04/2005 - 03:50 pm / quote |
do you think any more ****'s could be included?
     
the_pick_gnome wrote on 10/04/2005 - 04:06 pm / quote |
Great job Freepower.
You pwn.
     
Flametop001 wrote on 10/04/2005 - 04:21 pm / quote |
Finally someone who knows something. I tried explaining this to some guitar wankers at my school who think they pwn because they can play stuff extremely fast for a long period of time and then they shit on me for playing stuff fast then slow and just better than them. This is exactly how I try to explain why I solo like that to them...Sweet. If there was some way I could vote 10's multiple times for this lesson then I would.
     
 marchoso   m   wrote on 10/04/2005 - 05:02 pm / quote |
spam deleted
     
Righteous wrote on 10/04/2005 - 05:49 pm / quote |
Excellent again free
     
Scarecrow666 wrote on 10/04/2005 - 05:54 pm / quote |
i skimmed this and it was really good, comparing it to writing was a great and origional idea. i wasn't sure if u talked about artificial hamonic bends, those can REALLY spice up a solo especially if ur playing death metal style stuff.
     
rjc_15 wrote on 10/04/2005 - 07:16 pm / quote |
I completely understand this, and I totally agree about the conversation/solo comparison. I heard B.B. King explain it in a similar manner. Truly good stuff. Kudos to you.
     
prs_guitarist wrote on 10/04/2005 - 07:43 pm / quote |
Actually, calid means warm. Nice article though.
     
nightrune wrote on 10/04/2005 - 08:58 pm / quote |
now all i need is someone to kinda give me ideas for different rythems, thats where i have my problems
     
D_Rock wrote on 10/04/2005 - 09:03 pm / quote |
im glad someone knows how to do good vibrato in this world still.Great article, i remember learning the importance of vibrato. Practice it and practice it some more. This technique is so critical to "your sound". With practice your muscles will be able to handle it easier and easier making be able so control the vib. better. So everyone keep practicin'.
     
D_Rock wrote on 10/04/2005 - 09:04 pm / quote |
**making you be able to control the vib. better**
     
jevon wrote on 10/04/2005 - 09:24 pm / quote |
awesome article thanks
     
ash_361 wrote on 10/04/2005 - 09:33 pm / quote |
also known as motives....
     
ash_361 wrote on 10/04/2005 - 09:34 pm / quote |
motifs* sorry
     
`NeXxuS` wrote on 10/04/2005 - 09:41 pm / quote |
motives... or motiffs as they are more properly called are not the same as phrasing...

motiffs are a type of phrasing.
     
jamstation wrote on 10/05/2005 - 01:44 am / quote |
good article, but enough with the ****s already!
and calid means burning hot..
     
MankiiKing wrote on 10/05/2005 - 02:26 am / quote |
This is great FP. Helped me a bunch.
     
local_hippy wrote on 10/05/2005 - 03:39 am / quote |
too long baby ..but good
     
ampqueen wrote on 10/05/2005 - 06:05 am / quote |
good article, and it really is for dummies!! but its a good article
     
Solipsism wrote on 10/05/2005 - 06:14 am / quote |
excellent
     
angusrox wrote on 10/05/2005 - 06:52 am / quote |
Truly awesome article. Keep writing
     
selloutpunx wrote on 10/05/2005 - 06:56 am / quote |
most helpful article yet.
     
yan_kong wrote on 10/05/2005 - 07:23 am / quote |
Hmmm...
What's the use of this article??
Everyone who solos already knows it.
Soloing is like creating a melody which is usually done by the vocalist. Usually the use of soloing is to create a melody that cannot be done by vocal.

Good idea to compare solo with conversation.
It explains why many peolple with great speed solo shit while a good phrasing with a moderate speed sounds better. The Edge usually solo with moderate speed but with good phrasing. Check it out in "until the end of the world"

     
Freepower wrote on 10/05/2005 - 09:20 am / quote |
^ you may live soewhere [quote]yan_kong wrote:

Hmmm...
What's the use of this article??
Everyone who solos already knows it.quote]

You seem to have met a different "everyone who solos" than the one i have. Fair enough, if you have experience you can blunder into good phrasing, its how many have done it, but to actually realise it exists is the first step and i can honestly say i've never met a guitarist with a clue about phrasing in my local area, and i've met a LOT. *shrug*

You may know it, many dont. A good lesson on how to use the major scale would help a lot of people, however basic it is to those in the know.
     
keneagles wrote on 10/05/2005 - 09:47 am / quote |
i like it. my solos sound like crap. i could never get the frickin rhythm right.
     
Resiliance wrote on 10/05/2005 - 10:57 am / quote |
Spread the knowledge
     
galapogo wrote on 10/05/2005 - 12:26 pm / quote |
Thanks, very interesting article. 9/10
     
GreenDayChris wrote on 10/05/2005 - 01:30 pm / quote |
great article
     
rollingstones wrote on 10/05/2005 - 01:50 pm / quote |
dude this article is awesome and for once makes some sense
rock on dudes and dudets\M/
     
AssGeezer wrote on 10/05/2005 - 02:07 pm / quote |
The approach you took, using a conversation as an example, was extraordinary. It gave relevant ideas and exelent insight to what you were trying to say. I'm overwhelmed...10
     
the_white_bunny wrote on 10/05/2005 - 02:20 pm / quote |
thsi sounds like the eric clapton way of writeing a solo its total crap
     
shoot2ill545 wrote on 10/05/2005 - 03:01 pm / quote |
i only read the firstcoule paragraphs and it was very, , enlightening , thank you
     
HendrixEdge wrote on 10/05/2005 - 03:05 pm / quote |
Great article, I have realised myself that I need to work on my phrasing imstead of playing stupidly repetitive speedy licks, imo less is more so I think I'm on the right track.....
     
C3_Rocka wrote on 10/05/2005 - 03:09 pm / quote |
Gabuydachk wrote:

That was a great article. Keep them coming.


It's not quite something you can keep bangin out and devliver on a quickfire basis is it? You silly mofo.

Nice article, 3 from me.
     
C3_Rocka wrote on 10/05/2005 - 03:10 pm / quote |
Sorry I meant 8, I got confused with the 10/10 and 5/5 thing.

8 in that case from me lol!
     
C3_Rocka wrote on 10/05/2005 - 03:11 pm / quote |
www.punkreligion.com
     
Freepower wrote on 10/05/2005 - 03:22 pm / quote |
[quote]C3_Rocka wrote:

Gabuydachk wrote:

That was a great article. Keep them coming.


It's not quite something you can keep bangin out and devliver on a quickfire basis is it? You silly mofo.
[quote]

I wish i could.
     
GuitarGodJames wrote on 10/05/2005 - 04:39 pm / quote |
So anyway this elephant escaped from the zoo and then I was like eating and ice cream and then I shot him and then this girl and me made sweet love and then I played the funk for people and then I did your ma hahahahahhah

Annoying, isn't it?



thats kinda funny when you think about it. It sounds like something a crappy emo band would sing about.

OK article though.

     
RoughDraft wrote on 10/05/2005 - 04:45 pm / quote |
Awesome, great article!
     
PetrucciRocks wrote on 10/05/2005 - 05:45 pm / quote |
That article was quite possibly the best I've read in a while.
     
Bulletbass man wrote on 10/05/2005 - 06:43 pm / quote |
god im confused i get what your saying oh its a great article but all the speach anologies confuse me.
     
les_paul_01 wrote on 10/05/2005 - 07:00 pm / quote |
great article. pointing out the similarities between speech and music got the message across really well. good work.
     
The Anti-Fuzz wrote on 10/05/2005 - 07:26 pm / quote |
thnx, this really helped
     
l3s_p4ul_fr34k wrote on 10/05/2005 - 10:48 pm / quote |
Yeah this was pretty good, my teacher taught me in a simlar way. Blues soloing was heavily built on the 'conversation' technique.
     
Ibanez3 wrote on 10/06/2005 - 07:23 am / quote |
Great article. I see where your coming from.
     
x8DisturbeD8x wrote on 10/06/2005 - 11:21 am / quote |
I can play a solo. My problem is I CANT THINK OF ONE. I've come up with one and it ok. But I am gonna use this to try and come up with something.

thnx GJ great article
     
Scourge441 wrote on 10/06/2005 - 01:03 pm / quote |
10/10. This article is perfect.
     
greendayfan13 wrote on 10/06/2005 - 05:01 pm / quote |
so many people are to stuck up and too self centered to except good or help when they get it. This is one of the better soloing articles ive read and im really gonna use it too!
     
xxgenocide98xx wrote on 10/06/2005 - 06:04 pm / quote |
Nice dude, relating the soloing to talking was a great idea, thats how I think of solo pieces in music generally, so its cool to know someone who thinks the same way. Most people are justl ike WTF when I say something this. 10/10.
     
schither wrote on 10/06/2005 - 07:19 pm / quote |
I like the ariticle, great analogy it makes it so much easier to understand...keep it up!
     
horazonblade wrote on 10/07/2005 - 06:49 pm / quote |
Is their anthing like this video lessons for bass players?
     
gabbas wrote on 10/07/2005 - 11:46 pm / quote |
listen mate, im aussie like u alright...listen right...ur talking COMMON SENSE mate, talkin about showing off and tryin to define phrasing.....u basically gave us a definition mate ;0lol. we know we have to make breaks etc..but its up to the player mate...u cant define it.
The art of improvising cannot be restricted like what u described mate, one learns to improvise with mistakes, even when shredding mate...

wat u guys tink?
     
Freepower wrote on 10/08/2005 - 03:35 am / quote |
Im irish, lol. Everything's up to the player, but im trying to help them out - whether to alternate pick or not is up to the player, but you wouldnt debate the usefulness of that being taught to a begginner - and phrasing>picking.

And of course we learn by improv and our mistakes -
"A lot of it is instinct, and that comes with time and practice. So do both. Spend time with your geetar, and practice. But remember to play too."

Why'd you think i said to "play" and all that other stuff?
     
greeneggs'n'ham wrote on 10/08/2005 - 04:14 pm / quote |
good observations about comparing phrasing and conversation. Next time, throw in tab examples of what you mean.
     
Spanner wrote on 10/09/2005 - 08:26 am / quote |
Wow dude good, but a lot of cursing.
Im from Ireland myself
     
ChordProgressiv wrote on 10/09/2005 - 10:42 am / quote |
Great article
     
SnowballofDoom wrote on 10/09/2005 - 11:36 am / quote |
Well done Freepower, this helped me a lot. This and "speed building" are probably the two most useful things I've seen on UG. Now if you could only help me with the dreaded Cmajor...
     
martha_stuart wrote on 10/09/2005 - 11:56 am / quote |
Awesome article. One of the best I've read around here.
     
dnextslash wrote on 10/09/2005 - 02:58 pm / quote |
i wanna **** your pussy
right now all night lonnnnng o ya
     
dnextslash wrote on 10/09/2005 - 02:59 pm / quote |
i wanna wanna **** it alllll night LONG yautsa YYAAAAAUTSSSSSAAAAA **** ya
     
dnextslash wrote on 10/09/2005 - 03:00 pm / quote |
o ya wanna **** it **** it all night long long long long long allll night all night lall ngiht lONNNNNG
     
lead_guitar5 wrote on 10/10/2005 - 01:03 am / quote |
Excellent article. It is really easy to understand.
     
vanceboy wrote on 10/10/2005 - 02:22 pm / quote |
Pretty good...kinda long. Focuses a lot on people talking rather than actual phrasing in music, but good metaphor anyway.
     
Bass_Raven wrote on 10/11/2005 - 04:20 pm / quote |
Three words, great ****ing article. very easy to understand.
     
ando3300 wrote on 10/11/2005 - 07:29 pm / quote |
Jeff Beck = god of you and of phrasing.

Learn off of this man! He is the masta!
     
guitar_guru_28 wrote on 10/13/2005 - 03:54 am / quote |
great article and your theory that a conversation is comparable to a solo is great and one that i have never considered. Except when having a conversation, silences are akward, yet in a solo, the silent parts are as important as the actual notes as u have explained. Also conversation can change moods easily for example u can be talkin to someone happily until u find out something bad which is said whilst talking to that person and ur mood suddenly changes. Does that happen in a solo??? I know i am being picky and focusing on the negative of the article so ill end in saying good article
     
TheBassEffect wrote on 10/13/2005 - 06:34 am / quote |
dood, this is like, orgasmic. i love it, keep up the gewd werk!!
     
sketelz wrote on 10/14/2005 - 07:06 pm / quote |
wow... I never thought of it like that... thanx for the words of wisdom, keep them coming, great article
     
Slash-Page wrote on 10/14/2005 - 08:06 pm / quote |
dude, that was an awesome article man
     
the-jailbreak wrote on 10/15/2005 - 01:19 am / quote |
wow! a true rocker! keep it up mate! cheers!
     
PressEDIT wrote on 10/15/2005 - 07:20 pm / quote |
Thank you so much for that! You put your ideas down really well.
     
alliwant wrote on 10/17/2005 - 12:35 pm / quote |
Awsome article you've got here Freepower, it did actually help me which is more than any of the others I've read. Keep it up.
     
Diateo wrote on 10/19/2005 - 09:18 am / quote |
that was the best solo article evr i totally agree with the conversation solos. Vai does it all the time. I love you dude \m/
     
Freepower wrote on 10/19/2005 - 01:56 pm / quote |
[b]guitar_guru_28[
/b] wrote:

great article and your theory that a conversation is comparable to a solo is great and one that i have never considered. Except when having a conversation, silences are akward, yet in a solo, the silent parts are as important as the actual notes as u have explained. Also conversation can change moods easily for example u can be talkin to someone happily until u find out something bad which is said whilst talking to that person and ur mood suddenly changes. Does that happen in a solo??? I know i am being picky and focusing on the negative of the article so ill end in saying good article


Solo silences can be awkward, and one lick can change the whole mood of the solo, trust me.
     
TheNewYngwie wrote on 10/24/2005 - 02:35 pm / quote |
FUCK! FUCKIN AWESOME ARTICLE! THERE WAS SOME GREAT FUCKIN SHIT IN THERE! ALOT OF FUCKIN SWEARIN ASWELL!FUCK ME!
     
rocknroll_dream wrote on 12/07/2005 - 09:45 pm / quote |
good article.
i think the censored bad language was a bit uneccessary though.
     
Row wrote on 12/18/2005 - 03:42 pm / quote |
good article makes sense, i like the comparison, little long though
     
tweeres04 wrote on 01/04/2006 - 04:18 pm / quote |
I'm not gonna lie to you, that was pretty much the best article I've ever read. This is such a hard topic to talk about, and you did it perfectly. Wow. Please tell me you have an education in writing or english or something. You're freaking awesome.
     
playerwannabe wrote on 01/21/2006 - 07:21 am / quote |
yan_kong wrote:

Hmmm...
What's the use of this article??
Everyone who solos already knows it.
Soloing is like creating a melody which is usually done by the vocalist. Usually the use of soloing is to create a melody that cannot be done by vocal.

If you already know than why you reading this article? title says for dummies not experts
     
guitar_freak93 wrote on 03/02/2006 - 05:17 pm / quote |
I'm a lead guitarist and i understand exactly what your saying. This is the best article ever! It may be an article for dummies but it helped me, and iv been playing for a long time (not a dummie).
     
Tiamat wrote on 04/24/2006 - 07:46 am / quote |
AWESOME ARTICLE MAN!! GG!
     
thefoldarsoldar wrote on 05/25/2006 - 09:39 pm / quote |
excellent article, very well put.
     
NiK-117 wrote on 05/30/2006 - 02:47 pm / quote |
cheers m8, i used to jus play lots of crap notes, this helped
     
yanksfanwhm wrote on 06/26/2006 - 08:34 pm / quote |
awesome article, but im a little confused about wether to play like a conversation, or play telling a story, like the walls example.
     
SLD.Potato wrote on 05/18/2007 - 07:40 pm / quote |
Genious.
     
ibason wrote on 08/25/2007 - 04:04 pm / quote |
Odd writing style.

BTW,a guitarist who is great at creating conversations with his guitar is Satch. Just listen to Always With Me, Alway With You.
     
swinghead wrote on 09/06/2007 - 11:05 am / quote |
beutiful article, if you can play the way you can write we got a new guitar god!
     
iruka2998 wrote on 01/20/2008 - 08:18 pm / quote |
brilliant !
     
candysars wrote on 03/26/2008 - 12:54 pm / quote |
Like your music this was inteesting, not for everyone, but most definitely for me.
     
rick71 wrote on 04/24/2008 - 04:21 pm / quote |
hey dont do that
     
Punkismygod wrote on 08/11/2008 - 11:12 am / quote |
isn't it e minor that sounds spanish over e phyrigian 'cause they're both minor? someone smarter than me answer please
     
Lefty7Stringer wrote on 12/02/2008 - 09:31 am / quote |
pentagram_man63 wrote:

not bad although it seems strange to compare conversation to a solo...


where have you been?
     
captain Trips wrote on 12/18/2008 - 03:47 pm / quote |
pentagram_man63 wrote:

not bad although it seems strange to compare conversation to a solo...


Comparig conversation to soloing is the best analogy I've ever heard on that topic, it's relevant on so many levels
     
sinister2491 wrote on 01/22/2009 - 11:46 am / quote |
dude its diff. to think of it like conversation but i deff. learned somethin
     
--LP-- wrote on 02/13/2009 - 03:42 pm / quote |
this is the best lesson I have ever read. it really makes you think. I've never even considered it like that before. dude, you ****ing rock.
     
thedekker wrote on 03/04/2009 - 02:19 am / quote |
“I just, I just, I just wanna LOOOoove you baby, Woaahhhhh!”

great article
     
tom1thomas1 wrote on 06/14/2009 - 08:31 am / quote |
haha he's got a good sense of humour
     
oOJonnyLOo wrote on 07/29/2009 - 04:08 pm / quote |
might sound noobish but what do '– & clichéd' mean?
yeah it's a really useful post ty
     
a7xb4d wrote on 01/14/2010 - 09:16 pm / quote |
Wow.....you're really smart...
     
BladeSlinger wrote on 02/25/2010 - 03:04 pm / quote |
Very nice article
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