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The Guide To PA. Part One - A First PA

author: Phil Starr date: 02/03/2009 category: the guide to
rating: 8.5 / votes: 17 
POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 03:40 am
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 comments posted
Phe4rTheGod :
Beethoven didn't stop playing when he went deaf...he had some odd concoction made so he could feel vibrations through his teeth/mouth...

Good article though...

POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 08:06 am / quote |
AfoHot :
very good and useful stuff, I'm longing for the "next level".
POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 11:32 am / quote |
TW909 :
well written and full of useful info
POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 12:44 pm / quote |
linus.d :
Phe4rTheGod wrote:

Beethoven didn't stop playing when he went deaf...he had some odd concoction made so he could feel vibrations through his teeth/mouth...

Good article though...


he could read sheets... and knew all the sounds so he had it all in his head..

anyway, GREAT article!
i'd love more of this

POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 12:46 pm / quote |
dragoonseph :
linus.d :
Phe4rTheGod wrote:

Beethoven didn't stop playing when he went deaf...he had some odd concoction made so he could feel vibrations through his teeth/mouth...

Good article though...

he could read sheets... and knew all the sounds so he had it all in his head..

anyway, GREAT article!
i'd love more of this


Let me try to clear this up. Beethoven was not deaf at birth. He eventually went deaf. He also possessed the wonderful curse of perfect pitch. This allowed him to write music without hearing it through his ears. He simply heard it in his head. Also when he would get confused about how something sounded he would saw the legs off of the piano and lay it flat on the floor. He would then lay his head flat with his ear on the floor. Then he would begin to bang on the keys as hard as possible in order to hear or feel the different vibrations of this. This was said to have worked for him. Whether it did or not people or not sure.

And as far as the PA article is concerned...

I thought that this was a very good article. I actually used a lot of these guidelines myself when I ran the sound for the touring band I was in. I never actually read anything about how to do this but just used common sense and trial and error.

Good Article.

POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 02:51 pm / quote |
Phe4rTheGod :
Don't quote me if you're not going to disprove anything...other than my godliness...pfft, children...

"Beethoven used a special rod attached to the soundboard on a piano that he could bite—the vibrations would then transfer from the piano to his jaw to increase his perception of the sound."

POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 03:27 pm / quote |
TagRingo :
Dammit, I thought this article was gonna be about my home state of Pennsylvania. Well done anyway, I guess.
POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 04:16 pm / quote |
player o slayer :
great article. you should go into some stuff about specific equipment brands, and what specifically you will need. alot of people don't know the difference between monitors and regular speakers, let alone quality brands. really good stuff in here tho
POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 04:20 pm / quote |
decayingdave :
I barely wanna think about how complicated it's gonna be to get a PA System to work in my favor when everything takes off for me in time, as I'm not exactly what you'd call the technological brains of the operation (in simple terms, I'm a bit primitive) - But when the time comes, I'm sure this article will come in handy!
POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 04:52 pm / quote |
roaddawg07 :
GOOD article keep it simple and use your ears
POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 07:09 pm / quote |
emr_steelmech :
TagRingo wrote:

Dammit, I thought this article was gonna be about my home state of Pennsylvania. Well done anyway, I guess.
nice. Good article, I'd say go for the more specific/advanced one, as this was a great introduction.

POSTED: 02/03/2009 - 11:19 pm / quote |
Deep*Kick :
Thankyou! :p

Some ideas on individual costs of the components would be nice though.

POSTED: 02/04/2009 - 01:46 am / quote |
ouvrotpoep :
TagRingo wrote:

Dammit, I thought this article was gonna be about my home state of Pennsylvania. Well done anyway, I guess.

I thought it was about Personal Assistants

dragoonseph wrote:
Also when he would get confused about how something sounded he would saw the legs off of the piano and lay it flat on the floor. He would then lay his head flat with his ear on the floor. Then he would begin to bang on the keys as hard as possible in order to hear or feel the different vibrations of this.

Was this how he got deaf?

POSTED: 02/04/2009 - 03:26 am / quote |
Phil Starr :
Thanks for the comments everyone. Keep them coming, especially any ideas about what I left out or ideas for future articles. Pennsylvania made me chuckle. I meant to say that Beethoven stopped performing in public after his hearing loss. I read that this was after a performance of the fifth piano concerto where he finished several bars ahead of the orchestra.
Articles to come should be on: soundchecking, a fully mixed PA, microphones and feedback control, and in response to your comments a more detailed look at monitors.

POSTED: 02/04/2009 - 03:56 am / quote |
Felkara :
Phil Starr wrote:

Thanks for the comments everyone. Keep them coming, especially any ideas about what I left out or ideas for future articles. Pennsylvania made me chuckle. I meant to say that Beethoven stopped performing in public after his hearing loss. I read that this was after a performance of the fifth piano concerto where he finished several bars ahead of the orchestra.
Articles to come should be on: soundchecking, a fully mixed PA, microphones and feedback control, and in response to your comments a more detailed look at monitors.


He finished after the orchestra, in fact, his friend came up on stage and got him to stp and turn around so he could notice the performance had finished and he'd received a standing ovation.

POSTED: 02/04/2009 - 06:24 am / quote |
androidred0100 :
That was both informative and useful, awesome! Definitely would like to hear more. Got an tips for outdoor venues, like large backyards and parks and stuff?
POSTED: 02/04/2009 - 11:31 am / quote |
charlie__flynn :
very good, very informative, well written and written in a way most people can understand, i definately want more.
I agree with the outdoor idea, but only for like backyards and gardens and stuff. Also things like where are the best places to put amps in relation to drums etc. and more specifics on prices and bands for genres. thanks

POSTED: 02/04/2009 - 02:09 pm / quote |
t3hrav3n :
Very nice. In the upcoming articles, you could mention specific brands to go for and stay away from, as well as the importance of a good sound man and why you need to be nice to him.

I will say this, though: all the proper mixing, perfect monitor setup and good equipment can't make a bad musician sound good. That's the most difficult and frustrating thing about being a soundguy.

POSTED: 02/04/2009 - 11:30 pm / quote |
wesselbindt :
even Beethoven had to stop playing when he went deaf.


POSTED: 02/05/2009 - 05:20 am / quote |
marco-polo :
great article, i surely learned tons and would love to read more about it
POSTED: 02/05/2009 - 08:54 am / quote |
jthm_guitarist :
Definitely keep writing more articles! This article has a lot of information that I wish more people knew. I'd love to hear more about microphones, feedback and soundchecking.
POSTED: 02/06/2009 - 12:25 am / quote |
delizio37 :
Beethoven had siphilis which, If untreated, can lead to deafness. Beethoven isnt the only composer that went deaf from this you know.
POSTED: 02/18/2009 - 04:19 pm / quote |
ScottB. :
Thanks for sharing Phil! I learnt a lot.

Now I just need to convince my singer to read it haha.

Scott.

POSTED: 04/12/2009 - 02:51 pm / quote |
messyties :
deadly man, i didnt know half this stuff. we havent started gigging yet so this will defo come in handy. please write as many articles as you can!! tanx by the way.
POSTED: 04/26/2009 - 05:49 pm / quote |
ParentalControl :
one question.....wdf is a PA?
POSTED: 05/03/2009 - 12:06 am / quote |
Tatersalad1080 :
great article but you should have went into more detail about power amps, as they are integral to a PA system. Well, that is if you dont have active speakers.
POSTED: 05/06/2009 - 06:37 pm / quote |
Phil Starr :
OK, possibly more on this for future articles
POSTED: 05/06/2009 - 06:56 pm / quote |
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