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The History Of: Syd Barrett

author: Matt Montoya date: 08/01/2006 category: the history of
rating: 9 / votes: 55 
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 09:06 am
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Tombi :
I liked it.
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 09:56 am / quote |
Eddy Hitler :
that was quite good. i seen that documentary hich is mentioned in the text a few times , it was really good , and also saddening to hear of syds downfall , mentally. he really is an inspirational musician. R.I.P Syd.
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 10:22 am / quote |
eviledge87 :
that was great, i knew Wish You Were Here was written about a former abdn memeber but i didn't know who as I only have Dark Side of The Moon and Wish You Were Here
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 10:26 am / quote |
bassdrum :
Pretty good article. Too bad that Syd passed away, R.I.P.
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 10:30 am / quote |
timmEH :
a lot of good facts there, i give it 2 thumbs up

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 11:12 am / quote |
No Woman No Cry :
Good job. We needed something like this to honour Syd.
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 11:47 am / quote |
Mahavishnu80 :
I liked Syds work but i think floyd would have not become the legends they were without Syd leaving-Roger Waters would have left the songwriting to Syd which would have totally changed the band.

Syd is also responsible for a torrent of horrible Indie bands in britain (shoegazing self righteous english wankers to those not aware what indie is)

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 11:48 am / quote |
Ary :
Good article. R.I.P. syd
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 12:33 pm / quote |
some_rock_fan :
Sad story. I hope that Pink Floyd do a tribute gig for him.
R.I.P. Syd

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 12:43 pm / quote |
horazonblade :
Thats a great read, 5 stars.
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 12:53 pm / quote |
horazonblade :
^ er 10 stars lol.

RIP Roger.

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 12:54 pm / quote |
Kalakala :
Something needs to be said here...

There are some of us ol' geezers that were around when Kesey and Owlsley opened Pandora's Box with the Acid Tests at Maritime Hall in Frisco. Now, this was the real deal kids. Talk about playing with dynamite. Over the next decade, the influence of LSD in popular music cannot be emphasized enough.

Here's the point: After the oh...mid-seventies, what passed as "acid" was nowhere near what Kesey and The Pranksters were delivering to the masses. Owlsleys Acid was something that had a certain unpredictability to it, and the overall mental outlook the user had that indulged in it was going to determine to a large degree how the overall trip was going to unfold. If you were a relatively mentally happy and healthy person, the trip would open doors of unconscienceness in the mind that in many cases, the user wasn't aware of. No wonder those with an artistic bent flocked to it.

Syd already had some issues cooking on the back burner before his discovery of acid. Not the stuff passed off today as acid,(garbage) but the stuff in the 60's like yellow sunshine, orange barrels and the like.

The combination of the early stuff and Syd's mentality proved his undoing, as it did for a few. Granted, Syd was an extreme case but nevertheless...it's all a roll of the dice. Who knows why some people get afflicted with any of a variety of afflictions known to humanity?

All in all, an unfortunate chapter in music history, but when you look at the work done in the 60's and early 70's, LSD certainly wrote a few pages of some incredible music. I find it unfortunate that many unenlightened "experts" seem to whitewash the era with a massive brush of LSD being "destructive and evil...the road to insanity". Anything ingested with over indulgence is destructive. Music owes a nod of acknowledgement to what this substance did in many cases.

Syd's story just didn't turn out as many had hoped, that's all. Fortunately, he's left behind something tangible, something that will mark his place, his contribution in the world of music.

Shine on Syd!

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 01:09 pm / quote |
saband :
^ WTF RIP SID
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 01:10 pm / quote |
crazyfool91 :
dark side of the moon wasnt written about syd, but the aticle was pretty good. not much of a writer though.
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 01:28 pm / quote |
Conky420 :
saband wrote:

^ WTF RIP SYD


fixed for spelling :P

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 01:45 pm / quote |
hang.em.high. :
Good, good, good article. RIP Syd.
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 02:07 pm / quote |
uuhi :
Wow Kalakala, that surely was an interesting read. I assume you lived in the 70's?
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 02:47 pm / quote |
Caustic :
Aspergers syndrome is a form of autism, unrelated to schizophrenia...

Still, nice to see him being appreciated. One of the most tragic stories in music. His album "The Madcap Laughs" really is like looking through a cracked window into a broken mind.

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 03:32 pm / quote |
4evermetal :
I get sad everytime i listen to piper at the gates of dawn now... especially Chapter 24, **** that's a beautiful song...
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 03:53 pm / quote |
Dallen_007 :
Caustic wrote:

Aspergers syndrome is a form of autism, unrelated to schizophrenia...


Aspergers syndrome is often mistaken as schizophrenia, as some of the symptoms are similar, he was not saying they were related.

RIP Syd Barret

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 04:48 pm / quote |
Bubonic Chronic :
While not a bad outline of the history, this does cast his LSD use in a bit of an inaccurate light - not in regards to its frequency but regarding its effects on his mental status. The correlation between LSD and mental illness has never been satisfactorily established, although some researchers have hinted that they believe it may cause those who have the disorder, Schizaphrenia, to experience an earlier onset.

For those of us who do not suffer from the disorder, LSD is among the safest drugs, and again such popular rumors as serious brain damage are not connected with its use. More likely, those cases in which LSD users exhibit brain damage were also users of other drugs known to cause such damage, namely cocaine, which is known to affect the speech and language processing centers of the brain.

Interestingly, George W. Bush, a former user of cocaine, has trouble with language that seems to indicate that such damage may have occured. Not all victims of drug-induced brain damaged are musicians or blue collar types indulging in psychadelics. In fact it is no less common amongst the upper class who indulge in these more expensive drugs and also alcohol, another major player in producing brain damage in long-time chronic users.

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 04:59 pm / quote |
Caustic :
Dallen_007 wrote:

Caustic wrote:

Aspergers syndrome is a form of autism, unrelated to schizophrenia...

Aspergers syndrome is often mistaken as schizophrenia, as some of the symptoms are similar, he was not saying they were related.

RIP Syd Barret


Indeed. After my post, I looked and noticed I'd misread the sentence.

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 05:35 pm / quote |
Missino :
crazyfool91 wrote:

dark side of the moon wasnt written about syd, but the aticle was pretty good. not much of a writer though.


No it wasn't trully written about him, but Dark Side was written about madness, hysteria, greed, darkness...Themes strongly linked to Syd Barrett...

Anyway, good article! I strongly recommend both Dark Side Of The Moon and Wish You Were Here to all musiciens...Very inspirationnal...Especially the tracks "Shine On You Crazy Diammond", "Wish You Were Here", "The Great Gig In Th Sky", "Brain Damage", "Time" and "Us And Them"!


POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 05:41 pm / quote |
CirrusMinor :
**Tears**
Great Job

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 06:53 pm / quote |
Stop Messin' :
Great column. The WYWH Sessions story is always a sad one to read
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 08:51 pm / quote |
Hendrix68689 :
thats a sad story how such a huge influence gets destroyed, also kinda like jimi hendrix even though he didnt have brain damage he died early and wasnt even able to complete his last album, stories like these make me sad that people so good have such horrible deaths.
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 09:18 pm / quote |
epiphonist13 :
wow...good read. its amazing how someone who started life so simply could have touched so many lives so greatly. at least now hes somewhere jamming with hendrix, garcia, and the other greats...R.I.P Syd
POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 09:59 pm / quote |
Thin Ears :
Kalakala wrote:

Something needs to be said here...

There are some of us ol' geezers that were around when Kesey and Owlsley opened Pandora's Box with the Acid Tests at Maritime Hall in Frisco. Now, this was the real deal kids. Talk about playing with dynamite. Over the next decade, the influence of LSD in popular music cannot be emphasized enough.

Here's the point: After the oh...mid-seventies, what passed as "acid" was nowhere near what Kesey and The Pranksters were delivering to the masses. Owlsleys Acid was something that had a certain unpredictability to it, and the overall mental outlook the user had that indulged in it was going to determine to a large degree how the overall trip was going to unfold. If you were a relatively mentally happy and healthy person, the trip would open doors of unconscienceness in the mind that in many cases, the user wasn't aware of. No wonder those with an artistic bent flocked to it.

Syd already had some issues cooking on the back burner before his discovery of acid. Not the stuff passed off today as acid,(garbage) but the stuff in the 60's like yellow sunshine, orange barrels and the like.

The combination of the early stuff and Syd's mentality proved his undoing, as it did for a few. Granted, Syd was an extreme case but nevertheless...it's all a roll of the dice. Who knows why some people get afflicted with any of a variety of afflictions known to humanity?

All in all, an unfortunate chapter in music history, but when you look at the work done in the 60's and early 70's, LSD certainly wrote a few pages of some incredible music. I find it unfortunate that many unenlightened "experts" seem to whitewash the era with a massive brush of LSD being "destructive and evil...the road to insanity". Anything ingested with over indulgence is destructive. Music owes a nod of acknowledgement to what this substance did in many cases.

Syd's story just didn't turn out as many had hoped, that's all. Fortunately, he's left behind something tangible, something that will mark his place, his contribution in the world of music.

Shine on Syd!

I bow before you...that was beautiful *wipes a tear* lol seriously though

POSTED: 08/01/2006 - 11:14 pm / quote |
ObscuredByLight :
most of this is word for word from the VH1 or whatever special.
POSTED: 08/02/2006 - 12:24 am / quote |
ilikepie :
I love see emily play.

POSTED: 08/02/2006 - 03:10 am / quote |
mantyce :
Mahavishnu80 wrote:

Syd is also responsible for a torrent of horrible Indie bands in britain (shoegazing self righteous english wankers to those not aware what indie is)


Almost true...Indie doesnt necessary refer to only the English. Indie referes to any independant group (i.e: without major record labels) that are not considered mainstream. We have Indie groups in Canada, as does the U.S, and any other country.

POSTED: 08/02/2006 - 11:43 am / quote |
DanRev :
mantyce wrote:

Mahavishnu80 wrote:

Almost true...Indie doesnt necessary refer to only the English. Indie referes to any independant group (i.e: without major record labels) that are not considered mainstream. We have Indie groups in Canada, as does the U.S, and any other country.



Our "Indie" is very different, It's pretty popular, very mainstream, normally on a major record label and are normally Shoegazing self righteous english wankers.

Think the kooks and the automatic and that sorta stuff.

POSTED: 08/02/2006 - 01:16 pm / quote |
 
 m 
  :
Checked.
POSTED: 08/02/2006 - 04:31 pm / quote |
gauthier :
holy crap, i just learned a whole new chapter to my Pink Floyd knowledge

RIP Syd

POSTED: 08/02/2006 - 06:33 pm / quote |
Trevor6 :
holy shit, I didn't know he died so recently!
POSTED: 08/02/2006 - 06:53 pm / quote |
ricky butler :
This is the only thing I've read that had fresh facts to read about Syd Barret, and didn't tell me the exact same thing I just read at a different site. This guy is, not was, a Lengend. Good job, Matt.

Derik.

POSTED: 08/02/2006 - 07:03 pm / quote |
private :
This is great. I can't believe people would have the nerve to bother him.
POSTED: 08/02/2006 - 10:23 pm / quote |
mechaneko :
i think i cried while reading the wish you were here sessions part. its so sad to see a person especially your childhood friend and a band member that way. shine on you, syd. RIP.
POSTED: 08/03/2006 - 04:29 am / quote |
Cheesepuff :

i think i cried while reading the wish you were here sessions part. its so sad to see a person especially your childhood friend and a band member that way. shine on you, syd. RIP.

I cried too.

POSTED: 08/03/2006 - 06:14 am / quote |
blakwyte :
crazyfool91 wrote:

dark side of the moon wasnt written about syd, but the aticle was pretty good. not much of a writer though.


"and if the band you're in starts playing other tunes
i'll see you on the dark side of the moon"

there's no way that's not about syd

POSTED: 08/03/2006 - 01:45 pm / quote |
black_sabbath85 :
Thanks for this article. I learned a whole new chapter on the history of pink floyd today after having been listening to them for the past 6 years.
A sad story...emotional.

POSTED: 08/03/2006 - 02:36 pm / quote |
alex3996 :
when I heard about Syd death, I played Wish you were here cd over and over in my car
it's like my tribute to him
RIP Syd

POSTED: 08/03/2006 - 05:20 pm / quote |
sysD :
Since I listened to Pink Floyd's The Wall I and II and Wish you Were Here and Dark Side of the Moon on my first mushroom trip... I've recognized them as gods. Repeatedly I was reduced to tears during Wish you Were Here, and thought I went insane during The Dark Side of the Moon.

These guys are geniuses, and even though I'm not as into them as other people, Syd was a god, farewell man.

POSTED: 08/03/2006 - 11:04 pm / quote |
J3bus :
Thats a sad story, even though i dont have schizophrenia in my family, that story changed my mind of taking LSD, i actually want to try it but not until im older. Also its hard to get pure good LSD since they lace it with PCP now. Also when i was reading what blakwyte said, as i read it, i was listening to Brain Damage and it was at that part of the song,
"and if the band you're in starts playing other tunes
i'll see you on the dark side of the moon"

POSTED: 08/03/2006 - 11:27 pm / quote |
ufossuck :
To clear things up, Asperger's disorder is indeed a form of autism. It's untreatable, but there is no real need to treat it. The main effect of Asperger's is undevoloped social skill. Some one with it may speak to quietly to be heard, look downard instead of at the person they are talking to and rarely take part in social activities. However, people with Asperger's as well as autism tend to be smarter. They use large words and short difficult words that people don't understand. They tend to focus on one or a few things. For example someone may care about music, chemistry and politics, but nothing else. They're also known to be quite obsessive. Say if someone was a fan of Randy Bachman, they may know ever small detail about him.

How do I know all this? I have Asperger's disorder. I do, by the way, know ever small detail about Randy Bachman.

POSTED: 08/04/2006 - 12:49 am / quote |
fattypumbaa :
I hpe they not only do a gig in honor of syd but a whole ****in world tour let syd be remembered let him go out in a bang


RIP SYD

POSTED: 08/04/2006 - 01:20 am / quote |
dalcon532 :
shine on you crazy diamond
***tears***
you'll always have a place in my heart and will be well missed by me

POSTED: 08/04/2006 - 01:30 am / quote |
metal_matt :
Shine On Syd!! Also I am very impressed with the amount of Intelligent posting that has come from this article!! If you want to experience Pink Floyd properly then listen while your off your head it's what turned me on to them it opens your eyes!!

RIP SYD!

POSTED: 08/04/2006 - 08:52 am / quote |
 
 m 
  :
Checked.
POSTED: 08/04/2006 - 12:52 pm / quote |
FloydularPink :
iv heard the same, story so many times, even from roger waters, and rick wright themselves on the story of syd barrett DVD, but it still makes me shed a couple tears, i cant even play wish you were here anymore, i miss you syd, pink floyd, you better start touring
POSTED: 08/04/2006 - 06:52 pm / quote |
pytolk :
RIP Syd
POSTED: 08/04/2006 - 08:07 pm / quote |
osamabanana :
after i read this article i listened to wish you were here over and over. this has made me appreciate pik floyd in a different way.
POSTED: 08/04/2006 - 09:06 pm / quote |
new_decade :
Our "Indie" is very different, It's pretty popular, very mainstream, normally on a major record label and are normally Shoegazing self righteous english wankers.


hey whats wrong with shoegazing! seriously though, indie in britain is crap right now, although its nothing like shoegazing. personally i blame nme for its moronic attitudes to new bands and fads.

lets not forget the many welsh/scottish indie bands too now

POSTED: 08/05/2006 - 01:50 pm / quote |
Zeno666 :
I had never listened to Pink Floyd (I'd heard The Wall, but that doesnt exactly count) So, I was listening to the radio, and I heard Syd Barrett, original lead singer and guitarist of Pink floyd, had died. I rushed (literally) home and searched his name on google, and spent the rest of the day reading up on him. I then hunted through my house, and discovered a copy of both "The Piper At the Gates Of Dawn" and "A Saucerful Of secrets" that was July 10th (A few days after his death) and it is now August 8th, and I have listened to his music (And now some of his solo work) every day.
Im not obsessed

POSTED: 08/08/2006 - 12:50 pm / quote |
pink_floyd#1 :
its hard to relate to syd as a loony when you you hear his music you would think hi is just as normal as any other person. its a tragedy knowing that hes gone and took so many locketo creat ideas but for him its like a child playing a tune in his mind but not nowing how to put it in musical tones
d up ideas inside of him that would have probably been so amazing hard

POSTED: 08/19/2006 - 08:11 pm / quote |
pagan_bloodlust :
im glad i read that i knew some things about syd but learnt new stuff like he was the singer aswell good article
POSTED: 09/15/2006 - 08:30 am / quote |
Fugu :
Shame on you all labelling Syd schizo, read this http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-2271741,00.html "he neither suffered from mental illness nor received treatment for it at any time since they resumed regular contact 25 years ago"
Imagine yourself in his shoes, one Melody Makers journalist publishing gossip that you are mad and then all world labelling you mad for the rest of your life no matter you do! Even some of your friends...And making profit from that as such story sells so well...It is because of people like you Syd ended like that and world lost talented musician. Shame! Never call anybody mentally ill unless you are his doctor!

POSTED: 10/16/2006 - 09:49 am / quote |
Fugu :
just read this http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-2271741,00.html :
Rosemary is adamant that he neither suffered from mental illness nor received treatment for it at any time since they resumed regular contact 25 years ago
...

POSTED: 10/16/2006 - 10:18 am / quote |
 
 m 
  :
Checked.
POSTED: 11/09/2006 - 08:52 am / quote |
Cagivan :
Wow, here it is,January of 07. I just now found out that syd has passed on. R.I.P. Syd and may his legend live on. Very good story Matt. I would strongly recomend reading the biography of PINK FLOYD titled sauser full of secrets. Alot of insight to pinks life.
For all you guys out there who have never tryed "acid" I would advice against it. "acid" is unpredictable. It all depends on your chemical make up. I tried lots of it in the 70's and 80's, I came out ok. I knew some one who tried "acid" 5 times, he is for ever gone. A good friend of mine triped throughout his entire high school years. His parents tossed him in "the place" after he was caught stareing at a blank tv screen for hours. He told them the colors were a sight to see.

POSTED: 01/19/2007 - 09:17 pm / quote |
sg255 :
good article, but vegetable man was written about the clothes that syd was wearing at the time.

R.I.P syd

POSTED: 03/08/2008 - 08:28 am / quote |
Bluestube :
"Pink Floyd, after having a series of moderately successful albums, achieved huge stardom with the legendary masterpiece, "The Dark Side Of The Moon", which was partially written about Syd"

that is not right DSOTM was not partially written about syd according to Roger Waters it has nothing to do with syd at all but that many people think so becouse of the madness in the album... WYWH on the other side is mostly about Syd.....

POSTED: 07/08/2008 - 03:27 pm / quote |
kurtcobain05199 :
awesome syd rocks
POSTED: 07/18/2009 - 04:18 pm / quote |
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