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The History Of: The Sex Pistols

author: MrLucky77713 date: 06/18/2004 category: the history of
rating: 8.9 / votes: 33 
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 10:43 am
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 comments posted
Laser :
They did sort of suck haha, but they were good, did that make anysense, well congrats interesting stuff, you did your homework
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 11:40 am / quote |
dyingforwhat :
I have a myth I want answered. Did Sid Vicious really screw his mom?
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 12:07 pm / quote |
im not mental :
wow, poor them
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 12:35 pm / quote |
CasualtiesArmy :
The Ramones Pissed in Johnny Rottens beer.....He was clueless and he drank it.
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 12:37 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
No. I'm pretty sure Sid never did his mom. It wouldn't suprise me TOO much though...
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 12:45 pm / quote |
Geldof the Grey :
w00t! *****
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 01:04 pm / quote |
kayley :
Sex Pistols forever
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 01:24 pm / quote |
PUNQ :
they had little talent, but still were able to blast our ears
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 01:41 pm / quote |
darkstar9814 :
johnny rotten was in flip skateboards really sorry just shows that everyone one loves the sex pistols
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 02:11 pm / quote |
itsnotastrat712 :
great article 5/5.
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 03:46 pm / quote |
punkrockdude2 :
i wish they wud make a rarietes and b-sides album....where can i find that documentery?
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 04:02 pm / quote |
ShoeLaces907 :
Good article.
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 04:07 pm / quote |
Shorty02 :
darkstar9814:
johnny rotten was in flip skateboards really sorry just shows that everyone one loves the sex pistols

Nope it was just "Flip: Sorry" that he was in, the first of the two.

Good article too, Ive wondered about the history of the Pistols before actually.

POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 04:09 pm / quote |
bucky_2300 :
i just cannot stand the pistols, but good article, lucky. P0Z3RS FOREVER!
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 04:15 pm / quote |
battleofla :
yes my son...
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 04:22 pm / quote |
Mantiscabinet :
pistols own! i should start a band like that, great article man
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 04:55 pm / quote |
Backup Guitar :
Great job, Lucky.
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 05:03 pm / quote |
metalmassacre :
they were the first boy band then since they were put together and they got sid vicious for his look cause he was attractive or something
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 05:46 pm / quote |
ShoeLaces907 :
Vicious originally got in the band because he was childhood friends with Johnny and Johnny wanted an ally in the band.

Then when it turned out that Sid sucked musically, they wouldn't fire him because Sid had become a figurehead for the band.

THAT is the story of how Sid got in and why he stayed in, in a nutshell.

And The Beach Boys were probably the first boyband. A damn good one they were too..

POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 06:23 pm / quote |
Iam138 :
Is it true that Johnny is actually gay?
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 06:58 pm / quote |
Iam138 :
the guy kicks ass either way.
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 06:59 pm / quote |
deftonesrule!!! :
i thought god save the queen got no2 the week of the silver jubilee because they didnt count the sales from hmv so it wouldnt get no1
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 07:03 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
^My sources said one, but it isn't important.

P0Z3RZ r001!!!!111

...Serious
ly. They do.

POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 07:13 pm / quote |
Unseen_hero :
The damned were the first punk band to release a single. They beat the pistols to it with "new rose." But they never really hit the mainstream like the pistols or got as much media attention. A lot better band IMO. Just saying that the pistols weren't the first for everything.
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 09:18 pm / quote |
Jimmy_Page_Zep :
Did you guys know that Sid Vicious' real name was Eugene...I just thought that was funny
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 09:40 pm / quote |
ShoeLaces907 :
According to AMG, Sid's real name was John Simon Ritchie.
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 09:46 pm / quote |
Burn in hell :
Lydon, the most intellectual of The Pistols, loudly announced the death of ?Johnny Rotten,? and built himself a new career in England.

WTF???? Johnny Rotten is still alive...

POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 11:14 pm / quote |
Burn in hell :
^ I am an idiot.
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 11:24 pm / quote |
issidvicious :
one mistake to correct Sid Vicious was actually John Ritchie.
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 01:10 am / quote |
issidvicious :
but other than that, great article, i'm a huge fan, and i'd say you did very well.
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 01:11 am / quote |
iam a lazy sod :
its not heir fault they were like a boy band they were being played by that mclaren
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 02:41 am / quote |
ultimate_punk :
Brilliant article Lucky, 5/5.
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 03:46 am / quote |
Cookie_master :
I can listen to never mind the bollocks for hours..... i cant say they're not tallented. I think they where called non-talented because it was such a different style of music... GOD SAVE THE SEX PISTOLS!!!
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 04:32 am / quote |
ShaDoweR :
excellent article dude.
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 04:34 am / quote |
BrianApocalypse :
Glen Matlock now plays in a band called the philistines, and my dad used to know the drummer.
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 09:31 am / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
Cookie: They're called not talented because these guys played like they had never picked up an instrument. Sid would get unplugged from a lot of shows because he sucked so bad at bass.

McLaren was the true corrupting evil behind the Sex Pistols 'poser' talk. They really had no clue why they got together, but McLaren fed off of everything.

The guys in the Sex Pistols always change their names. It's no small miracle I was wrong, lol.

Thanks for the praise.

POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 11:19 am / quote |
Cookie_master :
Yeah thats true but they have very catchy music and the lyrics are good too. i think thats what talented means. It's not really about the solo's or how good your technique is, but the stuff you come up with. Atleast that's mine opinion. In one way you're right, mrlucky
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 11:40 am / quote |
Cookie_master :
Yeah, sid really sucked at bass. But thats what makes him so cool. I mean, he had really that sex pistols image.... he really fitted in. What Sid actually a Nazi? Yeah the praise rocks
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 11:47 am / quote |
Cookie_master :
WAS Sid actually..... (Yeah im from holland :P)
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 11:48 am / quote |
Spawn3323 :
erm thats a gd artical an all but they released 2 albums,(i think) "the great Rock and Roll Swindle" and they didnt mention Lydons Other band "public image" which kick ass too, sex pistols rock!!
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 12:00 pm / quote |
griff1987 :
The Sex Pistols sucked, they couldnt play their instruments. theyre like a very early version of modern mosher power chord crap
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 12:05 pm / quote |
griff1987 :
Oh and btw, God Save The Queen didnt top the charts because the BBC wouldnt allow it. It was the only week when there was officially no number 1
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 12:06 pm / quote |
sargasm :
Nice job Lucky. Very insightful.
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 02:49 pm / quote |
bigjoe111 :
sex pistals in my eyes are a pile of shit
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 03:31 pm / quote |
bigjoe111 :
but i no a boy who loves them called ben upex (bit of a puff)
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 03:32 pm / quote |
BadAssElmo :
great article.
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 05:30 pm / quote |
BadAssElmo :
Lucky, you can write damn well.
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 05:31 pm / quote |
slash=king :
in the documentary "the filth and the fury" it says that officially there was no number 1 the week of the silver jubilee because it was god save the queen but it wasnt allowed,so the number one spot was empty
it also says the band got together differently too, but hey, good article

POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 10:17 pm / quote |
hobo8917 :
lucky, great article, very informative and unbiased, keep up the good work
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 11:57 pm / quote |
Hot Dogs :
damn, sex pistols, bad memories........
POSTED: 06/20/2004 - 01:20 am / quote |
Unknown Soul :
Glenn Danzig brought Sid's mom into the recording studio during the "Static Age" sessions after Sid had od'ed saying that she shouldn't alone
POSTED: 06/20/2004 - 02:41 am / quote |
distorted_order :
good article.

POGO!!!!!

POSTED: 06/20/2004 - 08:01 am / quote |
WrappedInCold :
iwonder what would have happened if the Sex pistols members weren't so *****d up, ya know...could they still be making music....

than again, i wouldn't want to know

i give you 5 stars

POSTED: 06/20/2004 - 12:08 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
The Great Rock and Roll Swindle wasn't a Sex Pistol's album. In fact, I think it was a movie McLaren made...

I think the Pistols would have called it quits anyway, I mean they were finding out that they were McLaren's tools, so they had problems with that. That's a huge part of why they broke up.

Yeah, you're all right that it wasn't OFFICIALLY number one, but everyone knew what the number one song was in the UK at during the silver jubilee.

Thanks.

POSTED: 06/20/2004 - 01:35 pm / quote |
sral76 :
Good Article but you forgot one interesting fact. The Sex Pistols first show the cops shut down
POSTED: 06/20/2004 - 05:33 pm / quote |
ILG :
awesome article, you need to write more on band's histories, you actually know what youre saying-smashing job
POSTED: 06/20/2004 - 06:17 pm / quote |
RatiugLink :
That's an ugly picture, get it off the front page.
POSTED: 06/20/2004 - 06:38 pm / quote |
madvillebassist :
Sid's real name was John Simon Ritchie....
Who's sid beverly?--
--i think i read most of that article in a cd booklet

POSTED: 06/20/2004 - 09:11 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
I read it was Beverly, but I'm okay with being wrong on a minor fact.

You didn't read it in a cd booklet.

POSTED: 06/20/2004 - 11:54 pm / quote |
AngilasGuy :
Wonderful article! I love the sex pistols, new punk sucks.
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 01:46 am / quote |
Tim Woodrow :
This is all a myth, for any real info read J Lydon's book "Rotten" and see the above for what it really is -
Bollocks...

POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 03:33 am / quote |
Cookie_master :
Was Sid actually a Nazi??
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 04:21 am / quote |
scumfuc_69 :
Not eveyone likes the 'Pistols....they're OK but not
that great.
Also, in the 1st paragraph, you said you were "clearing up some of the truths and myths".....
How can you clear up the truth??????

POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 06:41 am / quote |
scumfuc_69 :
someone should do an article on the king of rock, GG ALLIN. I tried to submit an article once, but it was rejected.
GG Allin is the king of rock!

POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 06:43 am / quote |
$hab :
someone SHOULDN'T do an article on the king of rock cos he is dead LONG LIVE THE MEMORY OF ELVIS PRESLEY
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 07:00 am / quote |
$hab :
And scumfuc_69 ***s babies
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 07:01 am / quote |
$hab :
I AM GAY
















































BIG TIME MANS ARSE fUCKER

POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 07:02 am / quote |
Tim Woodrow :
Dude your not gay your sick Elvis?
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 08:34 am / quote |
CobainWorship :
Elvis was a crappy ass poser. Music is about passion...not about how fast you can play or how long you can solo...PASSION!
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 11:05 am / quote |
LED Weston :
sex pistols forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 12:47 pm / quote |
veriette :
sex pistols fckin rule in my opinion :|
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 01:17 pm / quote |
morningview4 :
i can't help but disagree, cobain. it IS true that you can't be a great without passion, but you have to have talent. or else you could just call it noise.
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 02:34 pm / quote |
joyful womble :
sex pistols are great! their album isone of the best ever made
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 04:46 pm / quote |
angusdc :
i like milk
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 05:05 pm / quote |
SeeinYellow :
i like eggs
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 07:37 pm / quote |
Wormboy :
i like penguiens
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 07:57 pm / quote |
Got Chains? :
CobainWorship:
Elvis was a crappy ass poser. Music is about passion...not about how fast you can play or how long you can solo...PASSION!


What if you have a passion for playing fast?

POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 08:26 pm / quote |
Chemicalwarfare :
still noise but if you speed it up your a poser
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 09:46 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
^Not really.
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 10:28 pm / quote |
CobainWorship :
Actually...the only passion that people have for playing fast is because they have the passion to "be better" than others...even though that's not true. Satriani blows...same as Mnwgiue or whatever the hell it is.
POSTED: 06/22/2004 - 01:49 am / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
^Well most punk bands play fast because fats playing usually adds to the energy, which is what punk rock usually tries to capture. Playing fast isn't just shredding. I usually despise hardcore shredding. It's a pointless dick measuring contest on stage. Some solos really get me, though...
POSTED: 06/22/2004 - 01:56 am / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
fast*
POSTED: 06/22/2004 - 01:56 am / quote |
punkpig :
SEX PISTOLS ROCK YOUR SOCKS. sid vicious had no talent but he encapsulated the fury of the band.. and he was pretty. they influenced it all, whether you like them or not. and i think its incredible they managed even the one album with the media, mclaren and general musical conventions at the time all against them.... LIVE FOREVER SEX PISTOLS
POSTED: 06/22/2004 - 08:03 am / quote |
punkpig :
"Sid was a junkie until he hung himself in his jail cell after the stabbing of Nancy Spungen."???? Read this in an online article bout the Sex Pistols (not on this site) - i thought he overdosed??
POSTED: 06/22/2004 - 08:19 am / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
^Sid DID overdose after recieving parole. He didn't die in jail.
POSTED: 06/22/2004 - 11:20 am / quote |
CobainWorship :
I don't mean fast as in chords like Ramones and others, but the fast "lead guitar." ONe where they do like 12 different scales for a song in like 30 seconds...like that retard Satriani and Malmesteen.
POSTED: 06/22/2004 - 11:41 am / quote |
Hendrix4ever :
sex pistols defianately did not sell out. defianatley not.
POSTED: 06/23/2004 - 12:57 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
^you're entitled to your opinion, man. And there's ways to back that up, but realize the band was formed so that McLaren could capitalize on the punk persona. That's selling out if you ask me. Also consider that the band wasn't aware of it, and had some serious problems when they found out about it.
POSTED: 06/24/2004 - 12:33 am / quote |
rancidrocker :
good article,I've been tyring to info an punk history and here some of it was, right under my nose.
POSTED: 06/24/2004 - 10:29 am / quote |
$hab :
That wasn't me at all. Some prick called Craig wrote it, cos..well you can understand why he would write it when he's a prick, so the statement speaks for itself.
POSTED: 06/24/2004 - 02:51 pm / quote |
lwnovember :
out dated over rated band
POSTED: 06/24/2004 - 06:01 pm / quote |
thurdayisnow :
i love the sex pistols.
they didnt have much talent, i admit, and they were sold-out. but the only reason they were sold out was because of McLaren. I think that the reason they only produced one album is because jon and sid got ticked off with Mclaren. and there was so much energy and passion, that i think it sort of made up for their lack of talent. there's a great band from Gainesville, Florida called Against Me! that doesnt have that much talent, but they have so much passion. "Are you from Against Me!" "Well, unoffcially..." yah I am telling anyone and everyone I know to check them out cuz I love them.. www.againstme.net

POSTED: 06/24/2004 - 07:54 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
^Yeah. Against Me! is good. They're not as extremely untalented as the Pistols. In fact, they're decently talented.

rancidrocker
: If you want some punk history info, check my medly of other articles...

POSTED: 06/24/2004 - 09:55 pm / quote |
Tim Woodrow :
Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
POSTED: 06/25/2004 - 06:31 am / quote |
CHURRO_illeatu :
did anyone realize that mclaren is the same asshole who tried to turn the rhcp into a punk band? what ***in douch, he should be beaten with dead kittens
WANKERS
btw, Against Me! is sick as far as acoustic hardcore goes, i had a history teacher who gave me one of their records, now i hear that they're firing him. bunch of ***ers

POSTED: 06/25/2004 - 09:06 am / quote |
Sokrates :
I cant picture RHCP as a punk band.
WEILLY JUEST CAUNT DEO IWT!!!!!

POSTED: 06/25/2004 - 10:07 am / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
^Yes. McLaren is the same douche. He's always been that way. Wants to cash in on what he saw at CBGB's.
POSTED: 06/25/2004 - 11:22 am / quote |
eliromero13 :
who cares if they were good at there instruments they played punk rock and all you need to know is 4 chords for that
POSTED: 06/26/2004 - 05:04 pm / quote |
eliromero13 :
who cares if they weren't good at there instruments they played punk rock and all you need to know is 4 chords for that
POSTED: 06/26/2004 - 05:06 pm / quote |
eliromero13 :
thats what i meant to say
POSTED: 06/26/2004 - 05:06 pm / quote |
punkpig :
^you're entitled to your opinion, man. And there's ways to back that up, but realize the band was formed so that McLaren could capitalize on the punk persona. That's selling out if you ask me. Also consider that the band wasn't aware of it, and had some serious problems when they found out about it.
NO I SAY!!! the sex pistols didn't know what mclaren was doing. they didn't do the band to promote his shop. he just connezd them into it. they rock whatever anyone says, and i don't see how you can accuse THEM of selling out when today's world churns out britney spears and avril lavignes galore.

POSTED: 07/02/2004 - 03:05 pm / quote |
punkpig :
ok sorry. didn't read the last part of that quote
POSTED: 07/02/2004 - 03:06 pm / quote |
blozzy :
It was suggested in the column that the Sex Pistols released the first punk song which was wrong. Later, in one of the replies, it was suggested that the damned released the first punk song which was wrong. The Australian band The Saints released the first punk song (I'm Stranded) in September 1976 just before the Damned. It was also a lot better than both the Sex Pistols and The Damned's offering.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 03:26 am / quote |
punkpig :
do tell.
POSTED: 07/06/2004 - 12:10 pm / quote |
blozzy :
I believe I have! Now I suggest that for all of you who haven't heard "I'm Stranded" than it's about time you did! Even better, go out and get copy of their first album it's beauty.
POSTED: 07/07/2004 - 06:21 am / quote |
punkpig :
no offense meant. all, listen to skunk anansie.
POSTED: 07/08/2004 - 01:08 pm / quote |
Thedesolate :
to aknoledge all this without having to read simply watch "The Filth and the Fury"
POSTED: 07/12/2004 - 04:45 am / quote |
punkpig :
is it good? and accurate? and unhollywoodized?
POSTED: 07/12/2004 - 09:30 am / quote |
Jimi444 :
I gave it a four it was pretty good. i hate punk but the sex pistols sound pretty cool.
POSTED: 09/05/2004 - 04:52 pm / quote |
nyydave :
#1 - the Pistols were not untalented. Sid couldn't play bass but the other instrumentalists were legit musicians.
#2 - there was no "first" punk song, album, band, etc. Punk evolved over a period of years.

POSTED: 09/07/2004 - 03:01 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
1: They were "legit" but still pretty bad.
2: Correct-o.

POSTED: 10/28/2004 - 07:50 pm / quote |
pistols :
The pistols had been punks since they were 15, there manager didn't get the idea from new york. Can't anyone get the bloody story right? Why do you think they wrote the song new york???
POSTED: 11/26/2004 - 07:36 pm / quote |
pistols :
Another: He wasn't Sid Berverly, he was john simon ritchie. Why would someone write about that in the article if they had not much idea about even their names, how they were created, etc? This article sucks.
POSTED: 11/26/2004 - 07:38 pm / quote |
johnnycashCLASH :
long live junkies, i should know i am one
rip sid
punk will never die
dnt ever critisis them
bla bla bla

POSTED: 02/20/2005 - 03:58 pm / quote |
BrianApocalypse :
that article is R N G wrong. Glen could play bass very nicely.
POSTED: 06/02/2005 - 08:21 am / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
Vicious was a bad bass player. Heroin's a hell of a drug.

You're right about Sid's name.. My source was wrong.

McClaren DID get the idea in New York, where he managed the New York Dolls and got the idea for the "look" from Richard Hell.

The only thing I got wrong was Sid's name...

POSTED: 08/10/2005 - 01:11 pm / quote |
guitarkid2113 :
Lol yeah I have the Ramones two disc Anthology and in the booklet it says "The Ramones meet the Sex PIstols. Funny how they pissed the beer. A warm welcome gesture." haha
POSTED: 02/19/2006 - 01:56 pm / quote |
mikec53 :
Sid was born as "Simon John Ritchie", known as "Sid Vicious" whilst in the pistols, then later changed his name to "John Simon Beverley". He had three different names in his life, it just depends which era you are looking at.
POSTED: 06/09/2009 - 03:48 am / quote |
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