** The Random Shred Chat Thread **

[Master Of Shred]

RULES AND HELPFULL SITES

Important rule :

Noobs are welcome in here, with questions about shred, no stupid lines like : 'slash is 10 times as fast as angelo' so don't flame the ones with questions... or I will report you...

some shredders sites :

www.vai.com
www.angelo.com
www.dreamtheater.net
www.vinniemoore.com
www.bucketheadland.com
www.satriani.com
www.jasonbecker.com
www.shawnlane.com
www.rustycooley.com
www.joestump.com
www.yngwie.org
www.ericjohnson.com

some exercise sites :

www.insaneguitar.com
www.theshredzone.com
www.chopsfromhell.com

ALWAYS PRACTISE WITH A METRONOME.

Some tab sites :

http://www.jbakerman.com/trans/ ( vai tabs new album )
www.powertabs.net
www.mysongbook.com
www.mxtabs.net
www.ultimate-guitar.com
http://yngwie.org/music/scripts.html ( yngwie tabs )

Another important rule :

Don't call names at eachother when people say things like : "dude michael angelo sucks, he's just based on speed and doesn't play with feeling at all " . that's his/her opinion, respect it. obviously you can tell him/her that you've an other opinion but that doesn't mean he's some stupid ****ing retarded mother****er or something like that. if I see disrespecting posts like that I will report you, again.

:cheers:

[The UG Squirrel]

Please explain if you will...

[Master Of Shred]

Well we always wanted a thread where you can chat about shred in random. So here it is :p:

[metallikatt]

um.....i like shred. it makes me happy. uhhhh.....does anyone have any bootlegs of vai playing "firestrings" with that orcestra (bad spelling) or maybe saw him play. i really wanna hear itt sooo badddddd

[Axegrinder#9]

feel the ****ing fury!

[TapMaster]

When do you guys think shred peaked ? like what year?

I wouldnt say when Nirvana explode cause it was getting pretty big even then

[The UG Squirrel]

Originally posted by TapMaster
When do you guys think shred peaked ? like what year?

I wouldnt say when Nirvana explode cause it was getting pretty big even then

stupid ****ing nirvana

[public property]

I think it was long over due, if shred hadn't been knocked out, it would have kept getting worse and worse.

[Master Of Shred]

after Nirvana came DT

anyways post some of your shred recordings in here too :)

http://masterofshred.dmusic.com :cheers:

[Mad Marius]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred


http://masterofshred.dmusic.com :cheers:


Not bad, Bub... and only 14, holy crap! :cheers:

Currently, my mic "has a cold" but when I get a new one or something, I'll post some of my shit.

As for whoever asked when the peak of shred was, as far as I can tell, somewhere in the 80's, and even the beginning of the 90's. Shred, musically and especially technically, has always been above most other genres/styles, and shred artists could easily become proficient in any other style if they chose to.

[Master Of Shred]

it was the end of becker. the beginning of Vai's solo stuff and Dream Theater :D

[Freepower]

the whole nps thing comes from the fact its an irrefutable measure of skill.
Let me demonstrate - you argue with someone over whos more melodic - how can you ever agree? Its opinion.
Speed is not an opinion. You are fast. And you can quantify it.

But then again, speed is overrated. I love frusciante. Fareri can eat my shorts.

[Master Of Shred]

^ditto, only not about the frusciante part :p: I would add satch there ;)

[Steve]

Originally posted by The UG Squirrel
stupid ****ing nirvana

:rolleyes:

[Master Of Shred]

^you're in the shred forum so it isn't weird to see posts like that ;)

[Resiliance]

http://resiliance.dmusic.com


*chat, chatchatchat, chat, chatchat*

:p:

[SilentDeftone]

How long did it take you to compose your Vai-like track? The beginning seemed like it needed some compression, but then settled down to a nice steady volume.
Jinglejazz was pretty neat as well.

[Resiliance]

I didn't really give much thought to it... I made it in about 30 minutes I think, just chordal stuff ;)

[TapMaster]

Master of Shred thats really good for 14 how long you playing for?

[tongue untied]

Originally posted by The UG Squirrel
stupid ****ing nirvana :cheers:

[Master Of Shred]

Originally posted by TapMaster
Master of Shred thats really good for 14 how long you playing for?

meh I believe it's my 7th year or something

[TapMaster]

so half you life.

Next question does anybody know where the term "shred" came from!

[Master Of Shred]

Probably Yngwie tried to speak english and he though that shred was some kinda normal english word at the time

[Mad Marius]

Maybe it's from the sheer speed of shred artists. They play so fast it seems they're literally "shredding" the guitar. Just an assumption...

[IgnoreThis]

^Maybe, or, even though this sounds stupid, it might be to do with the strings being 'shredded' or breaking.

Is it true that in the US OTT shred solos are called wanking? I've heard something about that...

[YouKnowYourRite]

most of speed lives = guitar wank.

[Resiliance]

:rolleyes:


Here we ****ing go again.

[SilentDeftone]

^ :haha

Guitar wanking is playing fast because you can. The verb 'wank' means to "self-pleasure". It's from the UK. Make the connection?

[Freepower]

Its also a noun, as in "All scallies are wanks", or can be used in the form of a verb - "Go wank yourself".

And as far as guitar wanking goes, it should be done in private, and never in public. And NEVER recorded and sold to the masses.

oh, yeh, http://nms.dmusic.com

[WvvNIRVANAvvW]

since this is random shred thread, can anyone tell me what delay is?:bonk:

[kyle_afi]

^^ same thing as echo. Where what you play is repeated back several times before it dies out. You can ajust the distance between echoes. short, long ect.


And for my chat topic, how old was becker when he started playing. I've been playing 2 1/2 years and I'm 15 and am about 3 minutes through SMS, but he was 17 at the time, and a far superior guitarist to me now. I always compare myself to others. It's a bad habit.

[The UG Squirrel]

Originally posted by kyle_afi
^^ same thing as echo. Where what you play is repeated back several times before it dies out. You can ajust the distance between echoes. short, long ect.


And for my chat topic, how old was becker when he started playing. I've been playing 2 1/2 years and I'm 15 and am about 3 minutes through SMS, but he was 17 at the time, and a far superior guitarist to me now. I always compare myself to others. It's a bad habit.

im ordering that album...then im gonna learn it

\m/

[evac|DB]

I think Jason was like 4 years old when he started playing.. not sure, though.

[Master Of Shred]

http://www.guitarplayer.ru/becker/img/jason_becker_01.jpg

he was 3 years old on this pick ;) ( and played it :p: )

[OrgyJorgy]

Do you guys have the video of Malmsteen screaming "I'm gonna ****in kill you *****! You've unleashed the ****in' fury!"?

[Master Of Shred]

Originally posted by Axegrinder#9
feel the ****ing fury!

[jasonbecker]

Originally posted by Resiliance
http://resiliance.dmusic.com


*chat, chatchatchat, chat, chatchat*

:p:

Resiliance, you better add more stuff man. I rarely add something to my Favorites unless it's good, and that's just pure talent.

So you better add more or i'll...
:p:

[Master Of Shred]

^^Add me too :D lol

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=186639

[xNEO-SHREDDERx]

drugs alot of them

[TapMaster]

another random shred question what got you into it?

[Resiliance]

Jani Liimatainen.

[Master Of Shred]

Randy Rhoads

[Freepower]

The speed. Yes. Thats all.
I just enjoyed playing seriously fast rythym guitar for the past year and then i believe I saw a malmsteen video and thought "I can pick that fast" and then found myself severly wrong, but intruiged by the speed.
Now, as im learning lead, im appreciating shred a little more - cant say i'd ever be a shredder, but i certainly appreciate what they do. And i like the principles of certain shred techniques, if not their use in shred. So im going to steal them!


But if anything will actually get me into shred, its gonna be rusty.

[IgnoreThis]

I heard about artists, mainly satch, vai and yngwie, heard some of there stuff and liked it. I've only really gotten into it this year though.

[kyle_afi]

I had heard about Vai and Satch, but never heard their stuff, so I bought a G3 dvd. I really liked it a lot. I also saw speed lives and though "I'm gonna play like that". That was about 2 months ago. I have no idea who some of these shred artists you guys talk about are, because I'm new to shred. The main reason I like shred is because I know it is the genre that is guitar based and involves the most technique.

[DirgeForTheSun]

Satch

[godofshred]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
after Nirvana came DT

anyways post some of your shred recordings in here too :)

http://masterofshred.dmusic.com :cheers:

check tahat recording!! he has done some others to...man...you rule!:cheers: <nick>:cheers:

[Resiliance]

Oh yeah, I uploaded a cover of surfing with the alien to my dmusic earlier, if you feel like checking it out.

[spee]

Randy Rhoads was the first shred guy, and then i got into Malmsteen, Satriani, Vai, Becker, and Friedman... i am new to shred also... i think like a month or something.

[DirgeForTheSun]

did, that was pretty good, some of your timing was screwed up

[Axegrinder#9]

what got me into serious shredding? umm Malmsteen without a doubt - the first day I heard the Rising Force CD, I was like, gotta rip it up on the axe and feel the focking fury!

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

SRV's cover of Litte Wing got me into Instrumental Stuff..


Then I Bought Passion and Warfare...

Steve Vai is the main thing i guess..

[TapMaster]

Dimebag Darrel
Randy Rhoads
EVH

all got me into shred

[WvvNIRVANAvvW]

yngwie playing a live version of baroque and roll, then becker with sms.

[REPOMAN]

I got into DT, not for the shred but for the awesomeness of it. Then I realized how fast he was playing, and I was like psh I'll never do that. Then I came to the shred/prog forum and realized that it is possible to be good when you're young, then I started practicing a lot. Hm what a story

[tongue untied]

well, basically it was my love for 80's rock, and how the solo'd

then i saw this forum........... and ive bin intrigued ever since. i still suck though................ but i finally got sweeping........yay for me

[Metalology]

I saw my first REAL Jem IN PERSON they other day. Too bad I didn't have the balls to ask to try it out. :p:

[tongue untied]

^ lol, im srry.....ive only got to play oen for liek a minute.............. i really want to play one for a cuple of hours to put it to the test

[metal_maestro]

I tried a JEM the other day at a guitar center, they had the damn thing sitting in the front of the store!! I was like "someones gonnn steal this thing"!!! But I tried it out for a couple of hours, It has to be one of the most comfortable guitars I have ever played. perfect sound, look, fret action, tremolo is perfect, but the only bad thing is the price.

[tongue untied]

^ **** you






j/k, but your one lucky bastard. when i felt my first jem , it was ripped away after mer seconds, and you get to play oen for hours

its not fair

[metal_maestro]

I felt like I had gained the power to rule the world when I played that guitar...

[jasonbecker]

okay i added you:p:

:cheers:

[Master Of Shred]

^emty your PM box

[TapMaster]

JEMs arouse me

[airsoft]

Anyone ever checked this kid out? He recorded it when he was 12.

http://www.guitar9.com/leadguitar.html

His teacher was Ia, but wow he blows me away. I could swear thats Ia playing.

[TapMaster]

Holy **** this kid sounds a lot like me and sorta looks like me

but it works out im prettier and hes the better guitarist

One of the songs sounds a bit Vai-ish don't you think?

[jasonbecker]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
^emty your PM box

i did...i don't know what's wrong....:confused:

[YouKnowYourRite]

Originally posted by jasonbecker
i did...i don't know what's wrong....:confused:

empty sent items too

[overflow]

I played on a JEM a lot because my guitar teacher give it to me for a couple of days, I only had a squier that time and I was in a national guitar contest so couldn't use that one without being ashamed. It's a great guitar.

[jasonbecker]

woah, i had a lot of stuff....

okay, all you guys that tried to PM me, go ahead now.

:cheers:
(i never got back from master of shred or resiliance about the MSN thingy i sent)

[TapMaster]

I dunno what you guys are talking about, but if its msn might as well add me i guess

the_arts_of_shredding@hotmail.com

[vaishredder]

Shred is not aobut speed imo. It is a type of tone and sound of the palyer and what notes u would hit if u play shred guitar.

[IgnoreThis]

Its about speed as well as those things though, but you have a point.

[Freepower]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred

http://masterofshred.dmusic.com :cheers:

I'll be over as soon as you have original material up, but not before - feel free to PM me when you have, id genuinly like to hear, just your own style, and not someone elses...

Don't take offense, now. I dont want my skillz being pwned by a guy a year younger than me...lol.

[dumbstruck89]

what scale do yall shred in? or which scales

[TapMaster]

^^ I tend to not use TOO many scales

[dumbstruck89]

lol i am dumb..... i dont get what ur saying lol

[Axegrinder#9]

Originally posted by dumbstruck89
lol i am dumb..... i dont get what ur saying lol

evidently. if you played the C major scale over 2 octaves, in 16th notes, followed it up by a simple Am sextuplet sweep, and the played a Dm pentatonic lick all at a nice and respectable 170-200 bpm, it'd be considered shredding... basically shred guitar doesn't demand you use any partickler scale or such, it's a style of guitar playing not a genre.

[metallikatt]

i think vai, satch, and malmsteen should remake "freebird" shred style :) thatd be awesome

[WvvNIRVANAvvW]

^ i agree. anyways, what do you guys think of cacophony's concerto?

[jasonbecker]

i think it's a great song hands down.

[Master Of Shred]

Originally posted by Freepower
I'll be over as soon as you have original material up, but not before - feel free to PM me when you have, id genuinly like to hear, just your own style, and not someone elses...

Don't take offense, now. I dont want my skillz being pwned by a guy a year younger than me...lol.

resi asked me to do some kinda Jingle Bells version just like he did with his Jazz one, Im gonna do a heavy metal version, maybe with some blues too. I'll PM you ;)

edit : Im 2 years younger :p:

[TapMaster]

Go off is my favorite cacophony songs much better than concerto

[Master Of Shred]

^I really can't stand that song, I hate it. Concert > Go Off! . imo ;)

[jasonbecker]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
^I really can't stand that song, I hate it. Concert > Go Off! . imo ;)

i am in disbelief.....lol.;)

i like both of them, but to be truthful, i've listened to Concerto and SMS that i just can't listen to them anymore.

[Resiliance]

How about Images !

[Master Of Shred]

^Images > Concerto

Imo Go Off! is only based on speed, so are lots of other cacophony songs. I prefer becker's solo career way over his cacophony stuff

[metallikatt]

whats everyones favorite vai song and why? mine is the attitude song because those little muted harmonic things in the beginning and steve playin with his whammy bar just makes me smile :D

[Resiliance]

Tender Surrender.

Don't know why really, it just is.

[Freepower]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
resi asked me to do some kinda Jingle Bells version just like he did with his Jazz one, Im gonna do a heavy metal version, maybe with some blues too. I'll PM you ;)

edit : Im 2 years younger :p:

damn, im just too used being 15!

Lol, ah well, thankee anyways!

[metallikatt]

some one needs to sticky this thread

[Master Of Shred]

^another great thread of mine lol .

My favorite vai song is definatly Lotus Feet :D

[metallikatt]

yay yesterday i figured out why the JEM has that monkey grip thingy!!! vai:"for doing stupid stuff" wow thats amazing, and here i am thinking he used it for some important technique when its just there to do stupid stuff!

[Axegrinder#9]

hear! hear! sticky this thread.

[Resiliance]

Yeah Aso, get your 36- fretted ass in here :)

[Master Of Shred]

^I PMed him ;) lol , ok guys it was nice to meet you all. Im gonna get banned lol

[Stratwizard]

Originally posted by Resiliance
Tender Surrender.

Don't know why really, it just is.

Me too. :) Lotus Feet is also very good one.

[TapMaster]

The Animal and Bad Horsie

one i don't like of his is The Reaper

My question are there any of your who are left handed shredders? and I also can't think of any big name ones..so help me out dudes

[Master Of Shred]

^Michael Angelo, altough he played on a right handed guitar

[Master Of Shred]

I'll post it here again :

Noobs are welcome in here, with questions about shred, no stupid lines like : 'slash is 10 times as fast as angelo' so don't flame the ones with questions... or I will report you

[TapMaster]

Random question do any of you shred in alternate tunings?

[Freepower]

i dont shred, but i like to play with my low E tuned to the key of the piece. BADGBE has lead to great stuff. I once used straight 4ths as well, because i accidently tuned it wrong (at about one month, lol). I use Drop D a lot, and honestly, most people bashing drop D hate it because they dont understand it.
My favourite odd tuning however, is my out of tune minature guitar - its plastic, cost 50p at a school sale, and has a total range of four and a half steps, from low E to open high E. Its a great exercise to work with a untuned guitar and get something good sounding out of it. And no, it cant physically BE tuned.
I dont think many shredders will shred in altered tunings - its too much for their feeble minds to work out EVERY arpeggio and scale all over again.
Lol, basically, they need practice in them...

[vaishredder]

Originally posted by dumbstruck89
what scale do yall shred in? or which scales


LYDIAN is the best ever!:D

[WvvNIRVANAvvW]

anyone besides me dislike bad horsie? i think his other work such as ftlog is much better, moreover, i cant stand horsie.

[ChurchNSkate]

Pssh...you like Nirvana, so quiet, you! ;-) Kidding. But, I suppose I could see why you don't like Bad Horsie. I like it, but to each his own.

And actually...I'm a mixolydian fan. of course, i just mixed up lydian got mixolydian..




Heh...heh....sorry. had to.
And Harmonic minor. Still working on shredding with that though...haven't gotten to the point where it sounds good with shred.
Sorry, I have to point out that what I play is rarely "shred," as in Cooley or Becker, I play more of the instrumental virtuoso style of "shred." So for straight of shredding, AKA cool sounding scale running ;-), I like Chromatic and Dorian. You can get some REALLY cool sounds out of Chromatic, jazzy stuff, indian stuff...just gotta play random notes, and then remember em if they sound good, and reuse those licks!

[TapMaster]

bad horsie is great i think

[vaishredder]

Originally posted by WvvNIRVANAvvW
anyone besides me dislike bad horsie? i think his other work such as ftlog is much better, moreover, i cant stand horsie.

Bad Horsie is a Vai classic , but there is better songs by Vai , I think FTLOG is overrated tho...easy to play, theres a lot harder, and better stuff then FTLOG.

[WvvNIRVANAvvW]

im not saying ftlog is hard lol, its just that bad horsie seems to be the same repetitive distorted chords or watever over alittle bit of playing.:p: btw ya, i need to make a new username cuz this is so like.. 4 months ago. lol. well, i just got into shred and out of *shi77y* music i guess you could say. are tehre any rules against making new acounts (when you are NOT banned)

[Resiliance]

^No, not that I know of.

[beaker]

a chromatic scale is just random notes? hahaha wtf!!!!! go learn to improvise melodies!!!!!!!!

[Beckerism]

how do you guys find improvising? hard, easy?

[Resiliance]

Improvising is one of the hardest things to do well :)

[Beckerism]

i know that its hard, its just that, to some experienced people it may be easy.:p: i was just wondering who is good at it here:)

[Master Of Shred]

isn't the most hardest thing for sure

[Resiliance]

Originally posted by Beckerism
i was just wondering who is good at it here:)


Well, if you believe everything the average UG'er says, they're all as good as Vai.

[MankiiKing]

Ok question: What the hell is that thing that Angelo does on Speed lives when he starts waving his hand around in air and
pokes the fretboard every once in a while? :confused:

[IgnoreThis]

Its just him showing off, its not a technique.

[Freepower]

im as good as Vai at improv. :)

nah, but i presume you mean improv shred solos - hard as **** - unless you want to sound like a scales exercise.

Otherwise, just play all your technique exercises ever, really fast.

But improving in general is easy, its 9/10 of what i do to come up with stuff.

[Kurt~CobainRIP]

Originally posted by Beckerism
how do you guys find improvising? hard, easy?



Depends on what I'm improvising, like blues and straight out rock I find easy, but shred I find extremely difficult(at the mo;))


PS Master of shred, Loving your covers:)

[The UG Squirrel]

Originally posted by MankiiKing
Ok question: What the hell is that thing that Angelo does on Speed lives when he starts waving his hand around in air and
pokes the fretboard every once in a while? :confused:

its one of his tricks called the "over-under", basically he moves his hand and hits notes with his hand below the fretboard, then hits a note with his hand above the fretboard...if that helps

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by Resiliance
Well, if you believe everything the average UG'er says, they're all as good as Vai.

:D okay okay you win.:rolleyes: :p: anyways, anyone besides me thinkt hat becker has a penis nose?

[The UG Squirrel]

how old are you fellow shredders and how long have you been playing?

im 14 and playing for 3-4 years

[Beckerism]

16, 4 years.

[Resiliance]

15, 1.7 years.

[Dreadnought]

15, about 2.5-3 years.

God I'm horrible lol

Resiliance's awesome skill discourages me from playing :sad:

[The UG Squirrel]

oh, and what guitars do you have?

im a shredder and i have an epi g-310

[Dreadnought]

Peavey V-Type NTB TR

http://www.peavey.com/images/fullsize/00463460.jpg

There ya go

[Resiliance]

RG550 '94

http://users.pandora.be/para_/37884.jpg


RG1550SA '03 (its more red than it looks in this picture :mad: )

http://www.ibanez.ru/gear_el_guitar/img/RG1550SA-00-05.jpg

Both fitted with tone zone- air norton combo.

[The UG Squirrel]

you lucky ****s

[YngwieMalmstien]

heres my pride and joy

[The UG Squirrel]

^^^^^how much did that set you back? its nice!!

[Beckerism]

moreover, what make is it?

[The UG Squirrel]

Originally posted by Beckerism
moreover, what make is it?

i think its a jackson

[Master Of Shred]

it's a jackons soloist american serie, I think..

http://images2.dmusic.com/users/m/a/s/master-of-shred/40833.gif

bad quality :( mine are Ibanez '04 RG Prestige 7 string, it looks black in the pic but it's dark silver. and my good old Ibanez SZ '03 :D

[Stratwizard]

^Looks cool.

[Night_Lights]

fav shred song for now?
mine is Black Star

your first shred song is....?
i havent learnt any

[Master Of Shred]

Fav. Serrana or Altitudes

1st : I guess it was Images, only without the arpeggios

[Resiliance]

Fav: /

First: Eugene's trick bag

[sixteen times]

Hey guys... I doubt any of you remeber me, I used to post a lot here a while back.

Well, ummm... yeah.

Good thread. I'm thinkin' of getting myself a lovely new Ibanez RG, got a £500 ish price budget, any ideas?

Thanks :cheers:

[Resiliance]

I remember you.


Well, do what I did, get an RG 1550/1570 and change the pickups... I don't get why people buy 2550's and the like... There is no improvement part from the pickups, and it costs way more... And you're going to replace the pickups anyway...

[sixteen times]

Does the 1570 really need a pick-up change?

Remeber... I'm not as serious, technical, or indeed knowlegeable as you lot, and therefore I'm expecting the stock pick-ups to do me fine...

:cheers:

[Stratwizard]

Originally posted by Night_Lights
fav shred song for now?
mine is Black Star

your first shred song is....?
i havent learnt any

Fav: Too many to list...

First: The beginning of ETB

[Resiliance]

Originally posted by sixteen times
Does the 1570 really need a pick-up change?

Remeber... I'm not as serious, technical, or indeed knowlegeable as you lot, and therefore I'm expecting the stock pick-ups to do me fine...

:cheers:


Well, most of us won't be satisfied with ANY stock pickups (or non-dimarzio's ;) )

But the stock pickups on the 1550/1570 are pretty good for stock pickups... So no, you don't really need to change them, its just advisable.

[sixteen times]

Ok thanks, Resi.

:cheers:

[Freepower]

Originally posted by Dreadnought
15, about 2.5-3 years.

God I'm horrible lol

Resiliance's awesome skill discourages me from playing :sad:

Lol, why should you be discouraged? Im far worse than you (probably) and yet im not discouraged by Resi - sure, hes a great shredder, not pro standard, but could well end up that way.

Im 16, been playing just over a year. Im not a shredder, but im good at what i do.;)

[Resiliance]

Oh hush :p:

Dread, I never get why certain people, like you, find someone's skill at an instrument discouraging!

When I hear someone better than me, that just drives me to practice harder, because I know that is the only way.

Why are you still reading, go practice and be inspired!

Its not about the skill, its about having fun :)

:cheers:

[Stratwizard]

^Amen. :cheers:

[Dreadnought]

I dunno, I just get discouraged; it's just the way my mind interprets it.

Although I DO practice, and I DO try to develop. I'm just trying to get to a level where I won't feel inferior when listening to someone else's music.

But I don't know, practicing doesn't work for me... I stopped practicing sweeps for like a week or two and then I come back, and I can somehow play the sweeps from Speed Lives... wtf? :confused:

Anyways, yea, I just take it in stride. My mind is intrinsically pessimistic, some players encourage me, and some discourage me. I don't feel sorry for myself or anything though lol, it's just the way it is.

But when I come across a player that's been playing for 1.7 years it's like "... SHIT, why the fuck can't *I* see those results" lol. :p: ;)

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by Dreadnought

But I don't know, practicing doesn't work for me... I stopped practicing sweeps for like a week or two and then I come back, and I can somehow play the sweeps from Speed Lives... wtf? :confused:
]

holy **** man. now that is talent. :eek:

does hair band mean they just have alot of hair?

[Dreadnought]

^^ Yes lol.

They also usually have a distinct sound... think Poison.

EDIT: And no, the sweep section from Speed Lives is really easy...

[Beckerism]

o okay, nvm then. :bonk:
anyone besides me think that playing the air guitar helps them practice? (like if you were at work/school and just practice the fingerings?)

[Dreadnought]

Never helped me at all lol.

Although, it'd probably help, not necessarily in your technique, but in the way your brain remembers the fingerings and such.

[Freepower]

it helps you develop the basic muscle for things, but not the co-ordination - example, i used to find picking witht he wrist really hard, i just didnt have the muscle, was my assumption, considering i use my arm, so i now sit and swivel my wrist through the air (dont do it with your hands in your pocket btw ;)) and i've seen great improvements in my wrist speed.

EDIT : Psssssssssst, dready, Resi has played piano for years - thus, his composition-ing, theory and finger strength had been developed for years. And he practices, i assume.

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by Dreadnought
Never helped me at all lol.

Although, it'd probably help, not necessarily in your technique, but in the way your brain remembers the fingerings and such.

ya, its mainly for those dam hard fingerings in songs that i cant seem to remeber.:peace:


:p:

[Stratwizard]

Originally posted by Beckerism
o okay, nvm then. :bonk:
anyone besides me think that playing the air guitar helps them practice? (like if you were at work/school and just practice the fingerings?)

Sometimes I tap some fingerings to a table or something.

[Freepower]

lol, i've played guitar on my girlfriend before...

[Stratwizard]

^That's what I thought to say first... :p:

[Freepower]

lol, "I practice my fingerings on my girlfriend" would be hilarious!
If only i had no concern for my woman's honour!

Lol, which gives me this idea - you mad shredders, on your 8 hour practice routines, how do you find time for the fairer sex? Do you?

[Master Of Shred]

Originally posted by Freepower
lol, i've played guitar on my girlfriend before...

lol tapping right ? under the belly ?? hehe you badass

[guitarrocker_77]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
lol tapping right ? under the belly ?? hehe you badass :stickpoke . Poke Poker , Bang*her*, Tapp*her*
lol

[Freepower]

personally, i always loved doing 2-handed tapping ;)

The trick is tapping higher up, while keeping a steady rythym!

and a well placed slide will do wonders!

ever wonder how i developed 20nps right hand speed, but my left never caught up?

And yes, i am a badass...lol, hope theres space in my sig!

[Resiliance]

Hah, practice routines.

Never done that kinda **** ;)



My GF likes to use my whammy bar.

[Dreadnought]

Originally posted by Freepower
personally, i always loved doing 2-handed tapping ;)

The trick is tapping higher up, while keeping a steady rythym!

and a well placed slide will do wonders!

ever wonder how i developed 20nps right hand speed, but my left never caught up?

And yes, i am a badass...lol, hope theres space in my sig!

I can't two hand tap, I have to keep my nails long for classical :sad:

[Freepower]

hah, not only are you sigged, but i own you at tapping...*ahem*...tapping.....

Tapping rules, but then again, so does classical - i'll stick with tapping, im up to 3 fingers right hand, generally arpeggios. You can create delay effects without a delay pedal if you layer two different voicings of the same chord - eg, tap D minor on the tenth fret voicing on the high E and on the 5th fret.

Who am i to give guitar lessons, lol....

EDIT: lol, especially when i cant remember who i just sigged...:bonk:

[TapMaster]

well its ovious that i am a fan of tapping, just for the record i have used the tapping technique on a girl what happen was i was showing her what tapping was on guitar and i ask her what she thinks and instead of saying cool or that sucks she says to me "could you finger me like that"?

[kyle_afi]

^ :haha :haha

I wish :sad:

[TapMaster]

^^ seriously try it angle your fingers towards the front of the vaginas interor wall(G spot) and you got it made

[Beckerism]

while i was joggin today, i kinda thought up this idea for UG.

why dont we make *The UG Shred Theme Song 2005*?
everyone that participates in the shred forum could contribute small bits and peices of music , and we could collaborate it into a song. so someone writes an intro, attaches the powertab (this is all done threw powertab btw) and puts it in the *The UG Shred Theme Song 2005 Thread* and let the adding on begin. then people just add more and more until the song comes to a close. at the end, someone can record it and whoopdee do, we have a theme song. :) what do you guys think? its kinda farfetched but i think we could do it. kinda liek a collage of music.

[TapMaster]

sweet i wanna do the intro

[Beckerism]

cool. get started. once you have the intro down in powertab, create the thread.:)

[metallikatt]

Originally posted by TapMaster
^^ seriously try it angle your fingers towards the front of the vaginas interor wall(G spot) and you got it made haha dude HELL YEAH! :cheers:

[The UG Squirrel]

Originally posted by TapMaster
^^ seriously try it angle your fingers towards the front of the vaginas interor wall(G spot) and you got it made

and i thought this was a shred forum

[Metropolis_Pt.2]

forgive me, but what the bloody hell is Power Tab?

[Beckerism]

a powertab is a program lets you upload guitar tabs into it, then it plays it for you. its really good and better than regular tabs because it shows what speed and whatnot its suppose to be played at heres a link for you:

http://www.simtel.net/product.download.mirrors.php?id=17736

thats do dl it.

http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=search

thats where you search for you songs to dl.

:cheers:

edit: o.. i c that you are banned. :bonk:

[Stratwizard]

Originally posted by The UG Squirrel
and i thought this was a shred forum

These things are always related with shred. :p:

[Master Of Shred]

Originally posted by TapMaster
sweet i wanna do the intro

I'll do the solo :p:

[jasonbecker]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
I'll do the solo :p:

pfft...If you're gonna take that then I'll do the second solo!!!!

:cheers:

[Beckerism]

lol guys guys, when tap master makes the new thread, peopel will get positions like:

tap master would be 1
someone else be 2
someone esle be 3

welll do it by number order, so noone is really assigned any position besides intro and conclusion, plus the conclusion just kinda happens, its not like we decide were gona have a conclusion. for all i care, number 2 could be a continuation of the intro.:p:

anyways, tap master, hurry and make the new thread and attach the powertab file to it so we can get started. :cheers:

[Master Of Shred]

^sorry Im to busy now, working on a blues project with resi, it's for UG. and I signed up for a jam here

[TapMaster]

Is anybody going to make a main riff?

[Beckerism]

well if we know what the intro is like we can create the riff... :cheers: can you post your intro pleeeeeeeeease?:)

edit:

use http://rapidshare.de to upload it.

[Resiliance]

Use gtp.

It's so much more comfortable to write in.

[Freepower]

Um, its up, but i dont think its much of an intro - anyone here program drums? Little synth in the backgroud?

[Resiliance]

If you want drums, ask evac :)

[Beckerism]

ya its up and all, but this one just kidna like a test dummy. anyways just go add stuff and have fun.:cheers:

[Stratwizard]

Wow! This thread is growing big! Great job MOS! :down:

[Master Of Shred]

Yeah I know :cheers:

[Night_Lights]

how long do you practice daily, and how many years did it take before you learned your first shred song?

[Stratwizard]

Not more than one hour. When I started playing I was more into Metallica and didn't know a thing about shred, so it took couple of years and I can't still play any whole shred songs.

EDIT: Just recorded Far Beyond The Sun. Check it out!

[Freepower]

I PLAY about an hour a day, often more, and i practice maybe 15 mins. I cant play any shred songs, but then again, i cant play any songs, due to the fact i havent learnt any covers in over a year.

[metallikatt]

i play about 4 hours a day and ive been playing for 1 year and 5 months...and i havent learned any shred songs so could anyone suggest a first?

[Master Of Shred]

FTLOG

[IgnoreThis]

Or midnight. Maybe Eruption too.

I dont have a set time of playing, sometimes i play loads in a day, some times not so much.

[Dreadnought]

I practice like one/two hours a day.

I know only one full song (excluding classical) and it's an acoustic Opeth track lol.

I know no full shred songs :)

Although I'm working on Blitzkrieg by Yngwie... that song is fast...

[Night_Lights]

right now im workin on this massive shred :rolleyes: song called "Iron man".

[TapMaster]

I practice 1-2 hours a day and i got practice with my band for another 2 hours

So How Many albums have you bought that you could consider shred

I have bought

Rising Force and Oyssey-Yngwie Malmsteen
Train of thought-Dream Theater
The Odyssey-Symphony X
Best of Both Worlds-Van Halen
Passion and Warfare-Steve Vai

[The UG Squirrel]

ive got some downloaded stuff, but the music shops crap, so i have to order - but anyway i have surfing with the alien and i have speed metal symphony on order

[Freepower]

i havent bought any shred - the only bands i BUY stuff for are listed in my profile...

[IgnoreThis]

I'm thinking of buying Vais new album if i can find it(but here in chavonia it isnt likely), but everything else is downloaded

[Axegrinder#9]

HAHAHAAH!!! WOOHOOOO!!! SATCH IS COMING TO KOLKATA, INDIA!! ************!!!

[metallikatt]

any one here heard malmsteens version of "flight of the bumblebee" it makes me fluffy inside ^_^ lol

[IgnoreThis]

^wasnt that by Petrucci?

[metallikatt]

^^ i dunno i think its popular with alot of shredders

[Stratwizard]

I've heard a Yngwie's version of it too.

[Master Of Shred]

really ? I've heard that before but I just thought that would be some kazaa freaks who said that. Is his one any good ?

[Freepower]

Originally posted by metallikatt
^^ i dunno i think its popular with alot of shredders

Classical piece - ask someone else who made it first.

[Resiliance]

Rimsky-Korsakov :p:

[Freepower]

i knew you knew, lol, i was just waiting for that smartarse avatar...

Lol, whats the story behind the avatar? Just looks cool? Mine is me, but seriously out of date.

[Resiliance]

Nah, it's Iron Maiden's Eddie.

Maiden was the band that got me into metal and subsequently into a whole new world of music, and the cycle continues :p:

[Dreadnought]

My avatar is me...

[Freepower]

in abstract form or photoshopped to hell?

[Dreadnought]

Originally posted by Freepower
in abstract form or photoshopped to hell?

lol, neither.

I actually tried shrinking it and the entire thing F'd up. Although it looks pretty cool now, so whatever...

[Beckerism]

ya it is pretty wierd looking. :D

[kirk_rules!]

Originally posted by metallikatt
any one here heard malmsteens version of "flight of the bumblebee" it makes me fluffy inside ^_^ lol

Ya

it's pretty cool

so...I have kind of a question...
what is the definition of "shred" I know malmsteen is shred, friedman, etc. but I just want some guidelines of "shred"

[jasonbecker]

shred cds:

Speed Metal Symphony
Go Off!
Raspberry Jams
Blackberry Jams
Real Illusions: Reflections
Passion and Warfare
Steve Vai: An Anthology
Flex-Able
Elusive Light and Sound
G3 live in Denver 2003
Metropolis part II: Scenes from a Memory
Racer X: Live at the Whisky; Snowball of Doom
Yngwie Malmsteen Collection(CRAP)
Yngwie Malmsteen Orchestra(CRAP)
Tony MacAlpine: Edge of Insanity
Symphony X: Mythology Suite
Vinnie Moore: Mind's Eye

I think that's all I have...not including computer stuff.

:cheers:

[TapMaster]

^^how did you come by all those shred is so hard to find

[Master Of Shred]

^order on the internet ;)

[TapMaster]

^^good idea I never would have thought of that

[The UG Squirrel]

how long did ordering all that take... thats heaps!

i admire you

[Beckerism]

kirk empty your pm box.:p:

[jasonbecker]

you guys think thats a lot??!!!

hah, i was thinking that wasn't that much. well, all the cacophony cds have been brought from the tower records in New York, and Steve Vai and the rest at Tower records here in Seattle.

[Beckerism]

i was thinking about ordreing the y. malm. concerto suite for eletric guitar or soemthing dvd. what you guys think?

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/5070081/a/Concerto+Suite+For+Electric+Guitar+and+Orchestra+(Ntsc%2FRc0).htm[/url]

[metallikatt]

Originally posted by Resiliance
Rimsky-Korsakov :p: i already knew that lol i just didnt mention it because ididnt think it was important:D

[sixteen times]

Ok this may seem pretty random, but could someone post a picture (or a link) of a picture of an Ibanez RG1570 in the colour "Royal Blue" please.

If you do not have a picture of n RG1750, then any picture will do, as long as it is in the IBANEZ colour "Royal Blue".

Thankyou. :)

[The UG Squirrel]

Originally posted by jasonbecker
you guys think thats a lot??!!!

hah, i was thinking that wasn't that much. well, all the cacophony cds have been brought from the tower records in New York, and Steve Vai and the rest at Tower records here in Seattle.

watcha think of go off and speed metal symphony?

[jasonbecker]

i think they're absolutely amazing.

they're up there with my favorites like perpetual burn, passion and warfare, and real illusions: reflections

[The UG Squirrel]

^^^ excellent

hows vai speed wise on passion and warfare?

i have no vai albums

[NaStYJoSe]

I'm just learning how to play guitar, ever since I've started to play my music taste has changed tremendously. Right now I'm just getting in DT and I think it's great. It'd be cool to learn how to shred but I have a Gibson LP double cut(got it for $300 used), which doesn't seem to be the top choice for all you shredders. ;) What guitars are good for shredding and what makes the Gibsons so much worse then the them? Also, what would you guys suggest for me to practice if I want to try to learn to shred? Thanks!

[YouKnowYourRite]

Originally posted by The UG Squirrel
^^^ excellent

hows vai speed wise on passion and warfare?

i have no vai albums

For the Love of God is on Passion and Warfare.

'nuff said.

[public property]

his live stuff shows his speed alot better, watch the G3 live in denver dvd to see.

[YngwieMalmstien]

Originally posted by NaStYJoSe
I'm just learning how to play guitar, ever since I've started to play my music taste has changed tremendously. Right now I'm just getting in DT and I think it's great. It'd be cool to learn how to shred but I have a Gibson LP double cut(got it for $300 used), which doesn't seem to be the top choice for all you shredders. ;) What guitars are good for shredding and what makes the Gibsons so much worse then the them? Also, what would you guys suggest for me to practice if I want to try to learn to shred? Thanks! Gibsons arnt bad for shreding just look at Zakk Wlyde He can shred just as good as most people on a a stratocaster but the gibson is bigger and heavier than most shreders can handle. I would sugest a Ibens or a Jackson for shreding

[Master Of Shred]

^^ **Ibanez and **Shredding, and **ShredDers and **Suggest ;)

edit: to the dude who asked which shred guitar :

get yourself an Ibanez RG Prestige ;)

[kyle_afi]

What shredding technique do you guys have the most trouble with? I'm really strong with legato and sweeping, but I suck at tapping and am substandard at alternate picking the runs that I can play with legato.

[Resiliance]

Legato is my weakness, picking my forte.

[YngwieMalmstien]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
^^ **Ibanez and **Shredding, and **ShredDers and **Suggest ;)

edit: to the dude who asked which shred guitar :

get yourself an Ibanez RG Prestige ;) ok im not the best speller:bonk:

My best technigue is alternate picking my weakness everything else Im stuck in a rut really all I know how to do is alternate picking can someone help me

[Stratwizard]

Originally posted by kyle_afi
What shredding technique do you guys have the most trouble with? I'm really strong with legato and sweeping, but I suck at tapping and am substandard at alternate picking the runs that I can play with legato.

I suck at tapping, cause the best I can do is 4 finger tapping. Legato is also quite bad. I can do some 5 string sweeps, but not well. I say alternate picking is my forte.

[Master Of Shred]

Probably my inside picking, still it isn't horrible

[jasonbecker]

hmmm....my weakness?

sweep tapping, and tapping.

[Master Of Shred]

**reported**

read the rules in my first post first buddy

[dumbstruck89]

hey, do yall having any riffs that will get me started in shreding? thanx! master of shred ur good! i listened to ur shredding from the 1st page! awesomeness!

[Stratwizard]

There are some good riffs:

http://www.insaneguitar.com/mc.html

[Master Of Shred]

^good site, I recommend it too ;)

[Stratwizard]

More about shred: http://www.theshredzone.com/

Good place for scales: http://www.jamsess.com/test/guitar.phtml

[Freepower]

My weakest technique is anything involving the fingers of my left hand.
My strongest is easily picking.

[TapMaster]

my best technique is tapping

[wanker23]

is an evolution a neck or a bridge pickup ?? thanks in advance

[Stratwizard]

There are Evolution PU's for neck and bridge position. The bridge pickup has more mids, whereas in neck pick-up the tone is more balanced, but it has slightly more treble.

[Master Of Shred]

RULES AND HELPFULL SITES

Important rule :

Noobs are welcome in here, with questions about shred, no stupid lines like : 'slash is 10 times as fast as angelo' so don't flame the ones with questions... or I will report you...

some shredders sites :

www.vai.com
www.angelo.com
www.dreamtheater.net
www.vinniemoore.com
www.bucketheadland.com
www.satriani.com
www.jasonbecker.com
www.shawnlane.com
www.rustycooley.com
www.joestump.com
www.yngwie.org
www.ericjohnson.com

some exercise sites :

www.insaneguitar.com
www.theshredzone.com
www.chopsfromhell.com

ALWAYS PRACTISE WITH A METRONOME.

Some tab sites :

http://www.jbakerman.com/trans/ ( vai tabs new album )
www.powertabs.net
www.mysongbook.com
www.mxtabs.net
www.ultimate-guitar.com
http://yngwie.org/music/scripts.html ( yngwie tabs )

Another important rule :

Don't call names at eachother when people say things like : "dude michael angelo sucks, he's just based on speed and doesn't play with feeling at all " . that's his/her opinion, respect it. obviously you can tell him/her that you've an other opinion but that doesn't mean he's some stupid ****ing retarded mother****er or something like that. if I see disrespecting posts like that I will report you, again.

:cheers:

[Resiliance]

:golfclap:

[Freepower]

:golfclap:

Fear the combined agreement of me and resi. Argument is pointless. Resistance is futile.