** The Random Shred Chat Thread **

[Beckerism]

^thanks for the reply, but what exactly is that a link for? it's asking me to download something, not providing the answers to oscillatory picking :confused:

It's an example of why you should pick with the wrist. If you are really not feeling like dling the movie,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5607575793159275965&q=shawn+lane

[Freepower]

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/search.php?searchid=195315 - the fast picking one. The reasons you can pick faster from the elbow are multifold, but in the end, its possible to pick just as fast, and much more complex material, with the wrist. For example, try string skipping or a simple sequence of fours...

The hardcase vid will show you what wrist picking can do. ;)

Although if you watch this and pay attention to the picking hand you'll probably get a pretty good idea of what the correct hand position etc, is. :) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1938099378022643751&q=shawn+lane

[Axegrinder#9]

haha I finally got my Kramer outfit at the neck with a Seymour Duncan JB Jr. and a DiMarzio Tone Zone at the bridge... oh it's a lotta fun now!

[pavan]

was zappa alive when vai released passion and warfare?

[power freak]

was zappa alive when vai released passion and warfare?
Wasn't Passion And Warfare made in 91 or something? If so yes Zappa would have been alive. (Zappa died on December 4th 1993 of Prostate cancer. :( )

RIP Frank

:cheers:

[public property]

Yes he was alive, zappas comment was 'He did good'

[sixteen times]

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO THE SHRED FORUM! :D

Hope you all have a good one. :cheers:

[Beckerism]

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO THE SHRED FORUM! :D

Hope you all have a good one. :cheers:

And to you too. :)

[Freepower]

Hah, Bumhug!






























;)

[Righteous]

Christmas is for christians! Winter soltice all the way!

Merry Holidays.

[apocalypse13]

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO THE SHRED FORUM! :D

Hope you all have a good one. :cheers::cheers:
I got a metal zone pedal, but I can't play with it until I get another cable. Dammit.

[sixteen times]

I got money... and it's going to be spend on a nice valve combo... any suggestions?

[PooKoo]

i as well got money, anyone suggest an acoustic for me?

Something nice suonding, ive got over 1 thou to spend.

[Dreadnought]

^ Breedlove acoustic guitars are my personal favorite

[SnowballofDoom]

I got a couple cd's, Racer X's live DVD, and a whole lot of inspiration :p:

[Scorzerci]

i got money, real illusions: reflections (yes i only got that just now), surfing with the alien, G3 live(96), Joe satriani life in san francisco, deep purple live in concert 72/73 and a Jim hall & Pat Metheny cd. merry christmas

[apocalypse13]

Got my cable and it sounds killer.

[public property]

got a hairdryer.

[Axegrinder#9]

now that is teh pwn.

[Righteous]

I got the Jazz Theory book and Total Electric Guitar with Eric Johnson.

[PooKoo]

^ Breedlove acoustic guitars are my personal favorite


dunno if anywhere near me carries em, but ill look into it.

Thanks.




I wish i got a hairdryer...

[IgnoreThis]

I got an Ibanez RG321MH, huraah!

[public property]

You think I'm joking.
*takes another shot of rum*

[Resiliance]

Fifteen men on a dead man?s chest?
Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum!
Drink and the devil had done for the rest?
Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum!

[Axegrinder#9]

you silly drunks, a hairdryer pwns all - I was serious. I mean if one was to consider the cummulative hours I spent trying to dry my hair after a bath, the number would be greater than the sum-total of the number of notes Rusty Cooley would hypothetically play in a never ending shredding session which would last a day.

[apocalypse13]

^you mean 2342375346454457552459045784845552732351673742572198628527445218712422487148418541348451812154871231844518787564845615151548447841748518456484487484513584?

Has anyone heard the demo version of Symphony of Destruction? It kicks the studio version's ass. The tone of the guitar is better, especially the solo. The solo has one of the coolest shred tones I've ever heard. The only 2 things I like better in the studio's version are the slightly upgraded vocals, and the way Marty closes the solo, with that real high bend, which he doesn't do in the demo. Still, the demo is really kick-ass.

[Freepower]

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=300200

I bought a capo! :D

[apocalypse13]

Sounds good. Sort of messy in some places. I like the delay in the intro. I've had a capo for a while, but I'm not very good at utilizing it.

Freepower, do you know how to sequence sweeping arpeggios? Just a random question. More like, can you do it? It's pretty hard sweep technique.

[pavan]

talking of rum, almost got thrown out of the hostel for getting drunk and abusing the authorities.

[pavan]

Wasn't Passion And Warfare made in 91 or something? If so yes Zappa would have been alive. (Zappa died on December 4th 1993 of Prostate cancer. :( )

RIP Frank

:cheers:

he would have been mighty proud

[Freepower]

Sounds good. Sort of messy in some places. I like the delay in the intro. I've had a capo for a while, but I'm not very good at utilizing it.

Freepower, do you know how to sequence sweeping arpeggios? Just a random question. More like, can you do it? It's pretty hard sweep technique.


There is no delay.

And do i know how to sequence arpeggios? As in, can i move from arp to arp in a progression, or do you mean, mid arpeggio shape can i change to a new one? Or do you mean can i play a sequence of fours on a sweep arp shape?

Sorry, its just that a lot of meanings have come out of the word "sequence".

[public property]

If cooley went at a constant speed of 20nps for an entire day (24 hours so to speak) he would have played 1728000 notes that day. ;) So he wouldn't have played as many notes as you'd think :P

[sixteen times]

^ :haha

[Beckerism]

Okay, so I was curious about how fast Becker sweeps in the "Solo in Japan Video." The arpeggios last for 29 seconds on the video, and 40 seconds on the powertab.

On the powertab he played 16th sextuplets at 140 bpm, which calculates out to 14 nps.

If he had played (40/29) which is approx. 1.379 times as fast, then 1.379 times 14 would be how fast he sweeps at:



19.31 nps for 29 seconds.


Nowhere near Cooley, but still fast. :p:

[public property]

If you're talking about serrana then I've seen it tabbed at 150. He dosen't seem to keep pace though, changing speed throughtout.

[apocalypse13]

There is no delay.

And do i know how to sequence arpeggios? As in, can i move from arp to arp in a progression, or do you mean, mid arpeggio shape can i change to a new one? Or do you mean can i play a sequence of fours on a sweep arp shape?

Sorry, its just that a lot of meanings have come out of the word "sequence".

Well I mean something like the sequencing on insane guitar. (http://www.insaneguitar.com/mc/sweeping.html) Like four seperate sweeps played consecutively at frightening speeds.

And whoa, I thought that you was using delay for that first part. Quite a flurry of notes.
If cooley went at a constant speed of 20nps for an entire day (24 hours so to speak) he would have played 1728000 notes that day. ;) So he wouldn't have played as many notes as you'd think :P:p:

[Beckerism]

If you're talking about serrana then I've seen it tabbed at 150. He dosen't seem to keep pace though, changing speed throughtout.

It is true that he does change speed due to it being live, so some of it would be higher and some slower of course. But if you are talking about the tab tabbed out at 150, it would be relative to the speed it is playing. For example, if the peice is played at 150 in PT, then the time it takes to be played would be shortened due to its being played faster, and would still remain directly proportional. :)

[Freepower]

Well I mean something like the sequencing on insane guitar. (http://www.insaneguitar.com/mc/sweeping.html) Like four seperate sweeps played consecutively at frightening speeds.

And whoa, I thought that you was using delay for that first part. Quite a flurry of notes.



Ah, imo, theres not much point learning to sweep arpeggios if you cant sequence them. I cant make uber-huge jumps, but i can generally get where i want, when i want. Whats hard about it? Its easier than fluently getting sweeps into "real life" runs, where you cant just sit and sweep up and down all day. No, i can do that all day and then some, its just as easy as sweeping a single shape to me.

Its the single shapes that im not brilliant at sweeping! :p:

And dont worry about the flurry of notes, its just a pretty chord, swept open because it sounds nicer that way. :)

[apocalypse13]

Ah, I'm not that decent at sweeping, I find it hard making fluent transistions. Look at the tab for Crushing Day by Satch and you'll see one of the most monster sequences I've ever seen. I personally would tap the 15th fret because it's such a ridiculous stretch, which is what I think Satch does anyway.

[public property]

Thats a really easy sweep actually and no he dosen't tap it, the stretch is relatively easy.

[apocalypse13]

Damn you!!

I can't get in position half as fast as you need to be.

Hey does MAB play No Boundaries half a step higher in the video, or is his guitar tuned higher? Because that's damn crazy if he does.

[kirkisking]

HAPPY NEW YEARS TO ALL!

so far i have one handedly unhooked this chicks bra, got her skirt off, some **** went down like kissing and cliche` **** like that, then my cat sneezed on me and she bitched at me cause she couldnt figure out how to rehook her bra.

And then i drank coffee, and as i speak im sipping a coke and debating whether or not to get up and piss. In another universe id feel sorry for myself, but im a happy person. Anyways, have a good 06, and despite what people say, i thought 05 was pretty bitchin.

Cheers.

lol ****ing random. Can anybody do that crazy ass tap/sweeping technique that Michael Romeo does?

[Resiliance]

Yeah...

But you should check out Ron Thal if you like that technique :p:

[PooKoo]

ha sorry i shouldnt post at like 2 in the morning. Yeah, ron thals great.

[apocalypse13]

:eek:

*Clears eyes*

PooKoo changed his avatar!?!!?!?

It's sweet though. ;)


Kirkisking: Check out Thal's "Guitars Suck" video. You will die.


I just watched Saw 2, and it's pretty cool. Quite brutal, just like the first. I expect Hostel to tower over Saw in terms of brutal torture though. The trailer for it played in the theater and it looks much more intense in the trailer than on TV commercials.

[Axegrinder#9]

I just watched Saw 2, and it's pretty cool. Quite brutal, just like the first. I expect Hostel to tower over Saw in terms of brutal torture though. The trailer for it played in the theater and it looks much more intense in the trailer than on TV commercials.

both Saw & Saw 2 is le pwnage - two of the greatest ****ing movies I've ever seen :headbang:

[apocalypse13]

^I'm never going to get tired of them. I hope they make like 10 of them.

[paddyo]

^^Everyone says that!? I havent watched either of them but they sound good in that kind of " Oh sh!t this is sick!.....but I HAVE to see it all!" way:p:. Maybe thats just me but whenever I watch movies like that(e.g Texas Chainsaw Massacre) its just fascinating and I have to see it all. Anyway so that I'm not totally spamming this thread up(!), anyone know when Marty Friedman is touring this year?

[apocalypse13]

^About Saw, it's nothing like Chainsaw Massacre. It's worse, but better, you just need to see it.

About Marty, OMFG I can't wait. He hasn't officially announced it, but in his "Ask Marty FAQ" section of his site, someone asked when are you coming to England? His reply was something to the effect of "I plan on doing a world tour this year."

:headbang::headbang: x 5000000000000000000 million roxors.

[Beckerism]

Q. Is Yngwie an atheist or a believer in black magic? His early songs seem to suggest it.

A. Yngwie says he used to be interested in the occult when he was a teenager. He studied about it out of curiosity, but he was never actually a practitioner of black magic. Says Yngwie, "I was just very much into the fact that there are a lot of unanswered questions about life and the universe. Some of my lyrics use occult imagery, and some are about questioning religion, especially when they try to tell you they have all the answers. I'm a very spiritual person, even though I don't follow any particular organized religion."

Q. Where does Yngwie get his stage clothes, like the braid-trimmed jackets, pants, and ruffled shirts?

A. Most of Yngwie's clothes are custom made by a designer named Ray Brown of Phoenix, Arizona. He designs clothes for many well-known music celebrities. He has been working with Yngwie for nearly 10 years. Usually Yngwie sends him a sketch of what he wants, and Ray makes it up and mails it to Yngwie. This can be tricky when Yngwie's on the road and needs something ASAP!




I love the FAQ's on Yngwie's website. :haha

[apocalypse13]

^lol

Crap, new page...

[PooKoo]

:eek:

*Clears eyes*

PooKoo changed his avatar!?!!?!?

It's sweet though. ;)


Kirkisking: Check out Thal's "Guitars Suck" video. You will die.


I just watched Saw 2, and it's pretty cool. Quite brutal, just like the first. I expect Hostel to tower over Saw in terms of brutal torture though. The trailer for it played in the theater and it looks much more intense in the trailer than on TV commercials.

thanks, i always told you guys i was gonna steal mos's old one.

havent seen saw or saw 2 yet, never have time for movies.

Saw crash the other night though, good movie, but i couldnt get over the fact that ludacris can do something right.

[apocalypse13]

I thought you was talking about a different one. I couldn't tell you who it was, I was still a noob to shredding.

[Beckerism]

Nice rendition of Yesterday by the Beatles in a neat fingerpickign form. On GP4.

[public property]

I can't remember who it was, but someone was wondering how fast becker did serrana live in japan, well I tested it in pt, from the beginning till half way through its at about 160, then goes up to like 170/180 after that.

[Beckerism]

It was I. And there must have been parts that where much faster if it started at 160. Using simple math, if played at 140, the sweep bit takes 40 seconds to play. The rate Becker played it at, which flucuated very much, lasted 29 seconds. This equates to 19.31 nps average. So, if some of it was at 160-170-180, which come out to 16-17-18 nps, respectively, then for the average nps to be 19.31, Becker must have played some notes at 20, 21, 22 nps etc., to make up for the speed that was lower than 19.31 nps. You know what I'm saying? :p:

[pavan]

i dont think it really matters. becker doesnt have to prove anything.

[Beckerism]

i dont think it really matters. becker doesnt have to prove anything.

Not trying to prove anything, just trying to see his nps. :p:

[NevermorePsalm]

I'm not a huge becker fan, but I love his playing. I also love the yo yo trick. Very good showman, so sad now that he cant move.

[Erc]

^ Yea it TOTALLY sucks that he can't play guitar anymore =(

I wish he would somehow magically get better.

[Dreadnought]

i dont think it really matters. becker doesnt have to prove anything.


:cheers:

Becker's flawless and Godlike enough, any attempt to find his highest NPS will result in the universe imploding :headbang:

[apocalypse13]

^ Yea it TOTALLY sucks that he can't play guitar anymore =(

I wish he would somehow magically get better.
Yes!!! But......:sad:

[tony_dyp26]

anyone know wats the difference between alternative picking and economy picking and string skipping and sweep picking and legato and arpeggio???

[Freepower]

I dont. Google does.

[apocalypse13]

Ok, here you go.

Alternate Picking- Strict up-down-up-down pattern. Good for four note per string patterns.

Sweep Picking- An attempt to keep it going in one direction as much as possible. Usually used in one note per string patterns.

Economy Picking- A mix between them. Ex: For a three note per string pattern, the pattern would be down-up-down *Stirng Switch* down-up-down, etc.

Legato- As little picking as possible. Using tapping, hammer ons, pull offs, and slides as often as you can.


That's just an overview. If you want more detail, you'll need to find a lesson somewhere.

String Skipping is complicated and doesn't use one set technique, and it'd be better to get an actual lesson.

[Axegrinder#9]

ahh I was going through a period where I wasn't listening to any metal songs and such, actually found myself listening to a lotta almost commercial rock or such - anyway got my groove back, listening to the latest Hypocrisy album and some good Arch Enemy (their Ammott brothers really do ****ing shred)

anyone else here go through phases where they find themselves listening to music very different from they usually would listen to?

[Freepower]

^ always! I love discovering that there's even more music out there than i'd ever considered.

[Axegrinder#9]

well it's not so much as discovering new music - I'll give you an example... for the last week odd, I was listening to "Collide" by Howie Day, "Landslide" by Fleetwood Mac, and a few Coldplay songs over and over again... and even before that I'd kinda been stuck inside a musical loop listening to stuff like that...

[Freepower]

^ no, i do that too, dont worry. I tend to devour an album over a while, and then move on very very quickly.

[Resiliance]

anyone else here go through phases where they find themselves listening to music very different from they usually would listen to?

I don't really have anything I'd usually listen to as a side effect of what you just said :D

[pavan]

There was a horrible period when I would listen to African radio and patriotic Russian songs. And axey, i neednt elaborate on hindi film songs, need I?? my roommates would play 'em 24/7 and when I listened to some regular stuff after that there were actually tears in my eyes.

[apocalypse13]

Not exactly. I don't get a chance to...

[SnowballofDoom]

anyone else here go through phases where they find themselves listening to music very different from they usually would listen to?

I definitely do that. Right now I'm in a fairly commercial-rock phase (Oasis, Green Day, Coldplay etc...say what you will). A friend of mine listens to artists like Gary Jules and Rufus Wainwright, so I'm exposed to styles besides my typical prog/metal tastes.

Having an open mind about different styles is one of the best things, I think, you can do as a musician. I enjoy going through different phases of music, because it all adds up and becomes my 'style'.

[shredfan]

^You like Coldplay? Haha guitar noob...

Nah just kidding - I'm actually going through a Michael Jackson phase at the moment, for some reason. But then he's one of Buckethead's influences and some pretty decent guitarists have played for him eg EVH and Jennifer Batten, who never seems to be mentioned here.

*Goes and listens to 'don't stop till you get enough'*

[Freepower]

MJ ROOLZ the kvlt madskillz.

[SnowballofDoom]

^You like Coldplay? Haha guitar noob...


Psh, at least they play with emotion, unlike all this silly shred nonsense.

[PooKoo]

I've been listening to Neil Zaza, Dream theater, Porcupine tree, music from the pianist and the temptations

nothing out of the ordinary. Just dont like most commercial mainstream bands, and not because of prejudices..

M.J. is teh pwn though.

[apocalypse13]

Dude, Hell yeah! Micheal Jackson kicks ass! Beat It is one of my favorite guitar solos ever, and Billie Jean is a sweet ass song.

:headbang:

[pavan]

MJ is the pwn.

[NevermorePsalm]

ehh....Im too young to think he is pwn. Once I get out of his age range, hell be cool.

[Freepower]

^ hell is always cool. Havent you been to the metal forum?


























*the pun police break down my door and start beating the living **** out of me*

[sixteen times]

I'm in a Funky House/Dirty House phase at the moment, although I have always been into House music in its many forms.

[brendan666]

Band: Electrocution 250
Album: Cartoon Music From Hell

Probably the best instrumental band nobody has heard about! If your a fan of shred or bands like Liquid Tension Experiment or Dream Theater, you'll definately like them.

[Archaon]

Dude, Hell yeah! Micheal Jackson kicks ass! Beat It is one of my favorite guitar solos ever, and Billie Jean is a sweet ass song.

:headbang:

Michael Jackson is simply: ****ing Amazing.

He's the only pop singer that I absolutely love...well his music. It's basically the only non-metal/prog/shred/whatever artist that I like listening to.

Some people find me odd for that. "WTF KIND OF A METAL HEAD R U? LOL NUBZ0R!"

[Axegrinder#9]

does anybody really like Robbie Williams' stuff? I mean I really dig his music, it's distinctly different from commercial bull****, the guy's got a really great voice and his songs are pretty nice + of course teh lyrics are awesome.

[pavan]

he's fine. i like rock dj, millenium, something stupid, and some other songs i dont know the names of. sings well. he should have been the next bond.

[Scorzerci]

my mom is a huge robbie williams fan so its usually being played around the house or in the car. after listening to him for like 4 years she still thinks its robin williams though.... I think hes decent i like his song "advertising space".

[public property]

I think his older stuff, before his awesome writer left was good, but recently it all sucks a bit much.

[Freepower]

^ i dont know his recent stuff, so it doesnt bother me, i still see him as his old stuff.

Which i like, but not love. The guys a brilliant unpretentious entertainer, he knows what he is and does it great.

[Axegrinder#9]

hey here's a lil' key fact I found out about improvising in a neoclassical framework: I picked up the guitar and was playing seriously after almost a month long hiatus, and strangely I picked up where I left off (after a bit of warm up) - I was actually worried that I'd have to retrace my steps on that aspect...

anyway, I was meddling with bits and pieces of Yngwie's "Blitzkrieg" and "Evil Eye" and I saw this recursive pattern emerging between harmonic minor and phrygian modes - not the way they are related w.r.t a scale, but with their locations on the fretboard, it's sequential and in a logical pattern, and it becomes pretty easy interweaving say a solo phrase, played over E phrygian, melding into A harmonic minor and with a chromatic desc/ascending diminshed lick switched into D harmonic minor and A Phrygian and such... and sounds real cool when played upto speed...

EDIT: I thought I'd throw in these points too, I personally find myself getting stuck in a particular loop essentially defined by the above mentioned scales and modes, and find it difficult to break out into more subtle voicings or chordal extensions, and even technically, I start picking everything and lose out on some playing dynamics, limiting myself only to vibratoing, trills and bends not to mention finding it difficult to limit my speed and if I do slow down, I find my self playing very cliche typical rock guitar licks...

Guess I'm in an introspective frame of mind today, and thought I bring about these points. While I was jamming with my band at college, I'd specifically insist jamming on non-linear chord progressions which would forcibly restrict my playing, and thus cause me to think more and it was then I found myself actually coming to terms with modal playing and getting a lot of them, even while playing fast...

what I'm trying to say I guess is when improvising on the fly, how does one perhaps get neoclassical soloing and more jazz inflected soloing to common ground, what are the difficulties that might be faced musically and technically when trying to convert from one sonic palette to the other?

I'll leave this open for discussion....

[public property]

You don't think that might be because you've programmed your fingers to play those licks, so transition between the scales and arpeggios is natural?

[Axegrinder#9]

damn you! now people will miss my long ass post! :rant:

[public property]

Axegrinders post.
hey here's a lil' key fact I found out about improvising in a neoclassical framework: I picked up the guitar and was playing seriously after almost a month long hiatus, and strangely I picked up where I left off (after a bit of warm up) - I was actually worried that I'd have to retrace my steps on that aspect...

anyway, I was meddling with bits and pieces of Yngwie's "Blitzkrieg" and "Evil Eye" and I saw this recursive pattern emerging between harmonic minor and phrygian modes - not the way they are related w.r.t a scale, but with their locations on the fretboard, it's sequential and in a logical pattern, and it becomes pretty easy interweaving say a solo phrase, played over E phrygian, melding into A harmonic minor and with a chromatic desc/ascending diminshed lick switched into D harmonic minor and A Phrygian and such... and sounds real cool when played upto speed...

EDIT: I thought I'd throw in these points too, I personally find myself getting stuck in a particular loop essentially defined by the above mentioned scales and modes, and find it difficult to break out into more subtle voicings or chordal extensions, and even technically, I start picking everything and lose out on some playing dynamics, limiting myself only to vibratoing, trills and bends not to mention finding it difficult to limit my speed and if I do slow down, I find my self playing very cliche typical rock guitar licks...

Guess I'm in an introspective frame of mind today, and thought I bring about these points. While I was jamming with my band at college, I'd specifically insist jamming on non-linear chord progressions which would forcibly restrict my playing, and thus cause me to think more and it was then I found myself actually coming to terms with modal playing and getting a lot of them, even while playing fast...

what I'm trying to say I guess is when improvising on the fly, how does one perhaps get neoclassical soloing and more jazz inflected soloing to common ground, what are the difficulties that might be faced musically and technically when trying to convert from one sonic palette to the other?

I'll leave this open for discussion....

[Freepower]

Improvising really well is really hard. Thats why i try to make my technique as FLEXIBLE as possible. Im almost equally comfortable inside and outside picking, including string skipping. I can economy pick very simple lines if i want the sound, i can sweep fluently if not fast in any way... Basically i try and make sure my technique leaves options open.

Basically i do what Axey does, i use the principle of "necessity is the mother of invention". I dont care HOW fast you can sweep, can you articulate well on a single string? Can you add a million grace notes with slides? Play in double stops?

I hit the same 3 note per string ruts as everyone else, and its breaking out of those that helps me the most. The hardest thing is to stop "hiding" behind your technique - in my case anyway. I have to think, "Do i run up the tonic scale again, or arpeggiate the chord again? **** that ****, lets use some interesting articulation".

I know im a broken record, but the way you articulate is imo, the most important thing when improvising, not your note choice, you can almost always get awawy with whatever you want, as long as you can hear it in your mind and you articulate well. After im done this crazy woodshedding im going to woodshed my articulation. See how far i can get with slides. Dynamics...vibrato.

All those "techniques" that arent "technical". ;)

[apocalypse13]

Meh, I just experiment slowly with what key I'll play in, and find out what sounds good, exotic, etc. Then commit it to memory so you know what you're doing.

[pavan]

I find it easier to improvise than to play someone elses music. Improvising is like a great adventure, you can go many places, and have a great deal of fun. The only thing that stops me from going to more enchanting places is my rather poor technique, which I have to develop. I am a better singer than guitarist, so all my ideas are vocal and linear, and then converted to guitar. I hum some song in the toilet or in public ( I dont mind singing aloud, although I may embarrass the people with me ). I compose the best music when I am drunk, even the waiters at my favourite haunt have told me so.

[apocalypse13]

Ok, how do you get rhythm slashes to work and make noise. I've tried everything. I can get them to show up. But I don't know how to get them to play chords.

:confused:

[Axegrinder#9]

Meh, I just experiment slowly with what key I'll play in, and find out what sounds good, exotic, etc. Then commit it to memory so you know what you're doing.

improvising on the fly son... that's when things get a lil' jumpy...

[PooKoo]

improvising is more fun then anything, as long as everyone is capable.

I rarely practice anything unless i have a need to get my chops up severely, usually i just sit and jam, pick a mode, pick a scale, pick a key, whatever, just play for hours in that, over backings, just on my own, jazz, shred, metal, blues, whatever, its a lot of fun.

[Beckerism]

http://www.chucknorris.com/html/events.aspx?type=1

[apocalypse13]

:haha:haha

[PooKoo]

hahahahahahahahahahaha

[Beckerism]

And then he tries to sell his stuff to us. :haha

[apocalypse13]

classic. :haha

[wil]

As far as the improvising thing goes, i study theory and practise chops in complete isolation from one another---I don't like getting caught up in 'practise this phrygian run' because music itself is older than the guitar and it exists OUTSIDE the realms of strings and frets---Basically, it's like Vai says, scales, chords and modes are like palettes to a painter, learn the ESSENCE, the SPIRIT of the mode rather than thinking, ' i need to stay in the fifteenth position because theres a Cm part coming up and i can play a five string sweep arpeggio then'.... The best way i find is to play to a backing track--- a real band is better but they may lose patience after your widdling around the harmonic minor for thirty minutes...Keep playing to a backing track and really just TRY stuff out, no-ones there to tell you if its wrong, you'll KNOW if its wrong cos it will sound awful!!! Let your ears be the guide, but improvising doesn't have to be completely free form, although John Scofield et al seem to have inhuman improv techniques, it's all about pushing yourself and what you know...If you know a variety of scales, arpeggios and modes and their individual characteristics, and if you cn let yourself go enough to try these out then your music will be a hell of a lot more interesting.
Think about stuff like chord substitution as well, in its simplest form this means playing another chord, or inserting the tonality of another chord BEFORE the next on in the progression--Say youre playing a pretty standard II, V, I jazz progession, say, Em7, A7 and back to D try playing an Eb7 chord or arpeggio BEFORE you resolve to D, not only does this add a cool sounding b2 cadence before the root, it also has a tritonal relationship to the A that has come before it...This is pretty basic but music is all about PRINCIPLES, how things relate to one another. Bach used to sometimes write a sequence of notes, then turn them all upside down for the next bar--This is perhpas too mathematical for improvising, and i bet Bach scrapped a lot of ideas before he hit the jackpot but thats the beauty of planning ahead and thats how you find stuff out-If you know what chords, scales and notes 'get along' with each other, basically, if you know what you can feasibly get away with, then you'll be an improvising master and the envy of a lot of other musicians--
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[pavan]

bleh. Just take the guitar and freak out.

[apocalypse13]

If you want to impress some of your buddies, just wank your ass off in some pentatonic scale. It always seems to work in mainstream pop-punk, just minus the wank your ass off. ;)

[The UG Squirrel]

And then he tries to sell his stuff to us. :haha

:haha

[Beckerism]

I miss my Cacophony counterpart. Where is spee?

[apocalypse13]

Who might that be?

[The UG Squirrel]

^^
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/member.php?u=106879

[apocalypse13]

Looks like he hasn't made a post in over a month.

[Beckerism]

Looks like he hasn't made a post in over a month.

Yah. :(

[pavan]

dont have to get worried if someone doesnt make a post in a long time.

I really wonder what has become of airsoft.

[The UG Squirrel]

Looks like he hasn't made a post in over a month.


He's on MSN quite a lot.

[apocalypse13]

Yeah, I wasn't much of a regular when he left. I started posting a lot in here right around the time he left.

[Beckerism]

He's on MSN quite a lot.

True, that's how I talk with him nowadays.

[Freepower]

^ i remember him. He was tres cool. :)

[SnowballofDoom]

A lot of the regulars when I first joined are barely around anymore: Blackened-World, Leevai455 etc...

Oh well :sad:

[Freepower]

^ ah, Leevai, he and me didnt get along. He thought i was some kinda speed obsessed guy with a fareri CD and a stopwatch...

I have neither. :(

[SnowballofDoom]

^I remember that; you could practically feel his blood pressure rise when the term NPS came up.

Those were some great arguments though, especially to the little shred nooblet that I was.

[Freepower]

lol, yeh, there's always been at least one member of the "burn freepower and his evil transcription maths!" persuation around. I obviously feel horribly misunderstood. First it was Leevai, then Yngchtie and now wil, from time to time.

Who next? They've all eventually come to the understanding that it doesnt really matter, and then tried to convince me that i should think so too. Course, i find that really annoying, so the arguments last forever. I think i was a shred nooblet at the time you speak of, i kinda assumed everyone else had been around forever. :p:

[Dreadnought]

^^ You're all N00BS :p:

Master of Guitar doesn't post that often either

[Beckerism]

Anyone have any idea or the tab for this circular shaped sweep Becker does from 3:06 to 3:08 ish (seen in the video) and continues on playing the same sort of pattern for a while.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2620593814189993945&q=jason+becker









Edit: A perfect example of why you should learn a song slowly and with a metronome:

http://youtube.com/w/Jason-Becker---Serrana-Cover-Shred?v=DCpUjsKofAM&search=jason%20becker


http://youtube.com/w/Altitudes-arpeggios-%28missed-some-notes..-%AC%AC%27%29?v=HmXWVYjzJZE&search=jason%20becker

Wow ^ That is HORRIBLE too. :haha

[spee]

ur cacophony partner has arrived /m\

been kinda busy with school and hockey, i dont have much time to browse the forums lately or play my guitar as much as i used to, but im still shredding away (or attempting to), ill try to post more often ;)

[Beckerism]

ur cacophony partner has arrived /m\

been kinda busy with school and hockey, i dont have much time to browse the forums lately or play my guitar as much as i used to, but im still shredding away (or attempting to), ill try to post more often ;)

:eek: IT'S THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS!

[apocalypse13]

Anyone have any idea or the tab for this circular shaped sweep Becker does from 3:06 to 3:08 ish (seen in the video) and continues on playing the same sort of pattern for a while.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2620593814189993945&q=jason+becker









Edit: A perfect example of why you should learn a song slowly and with a metronome:

http://youtube.com/w/Jason-Becker---Serrana-Cover-Shred?v=DCpUjsKofAM&search=jason%20becker


http://youtube.com/w/Altitudes-arpeggios-%28missed-some-notes..-%AC%AC%27%29?v=HmXWVYjzJZE&search=jason%20becker

Wow ^ That is HORRIBLE too. :haha

The Serrana one aint too bad, he only misses one or two. The altitudes one gets very messy when he attempts those six string sweeps.

[Beckerism]

I think he missed a bit more than few, and he had many bum notes. :p:

Edit: Compare that one to fellow UGer:

http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=12N3N6E8XNAB81KF2LCEWBQKLW

[apocalypse13]

SG's is much cleaner. (That is who posted it right?)

[Beckerism]

SG's is much cleaner. (That is who posted it right?)


MMhmmm. :)

[Resiliance]

A lot of the regulars when I first joined are barely around anymore: Blackened-World, Leevai455 etc...

Oh well :sad:

*slaps* :mad:


What about airsoft?

I still have Blackened on msn if you want his address...

[shredfan]

Anyone know any sites where I can download some backing tracks to improvise over?
Chord progressions, drum loops, stuff like that...

[apocalypse13]

www.guitarbt.com

[shredfan]

thanks man.

[apocalypse13]

Welcome. :)

[SnowballofDoom]

*slaps* :mad:


What about airsoft?

I still have Blackened on msn if you want his address...

I said 'etc' boy!

And thanks, but no thanks, I'm never on MSN anyway...

[mr_clapton]

is it just me or does jason becker look alot like page from back in the day
it might just be the hair though...
http://www.getthatsound.com/General%20Assets/Images/Jimmy-Page.jpg
http://hollowwar.tripod.com/_borders/Jason_Becker_2.jpg

[apocalypse13]

Yeah sorta

[Beckerism]

In this tab of Alittle Ain't Enough:

http://ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/d/david_lee_roth/a_lil_aint_enough_power_tab.htm

Jason supposedly hits 32 nps on the ending run, something I HIGHLY doubt. Does anyone have this song and that program that slows down songs?

[mr_clapton]

audacity could slow it down for ya download the song play it while recording on audacity then you can slow it down

[Resiliance]

Just use Transcribe! :p:

[Beckerism]

Just use Transcribe! :p:

I need to buy it > <. For now I'll use audacity. :)

Edit: Nevermind, I can't dl the song off limewire anyways; nothing is showing up.

[pavan]

Limewire comes with a load of spyware..... almost screwed my comp

[Beckerism]

True, but I have enough anti-spyware to counter-act it.

Yngwie is hiding in your fridge right now unleashing the foken' fury on that left over chicken.
Once in grade 1, Yngwie J Malmsteen made a Fender Stratocaster complete with scalloped fretboard out of macaroni, glue and paper. He then played E harmonic minor until the teacher creamed her panties and her vagina exploded in a rage of Focking Fury.


:haha

[pavan]

^
:haha:

[The UG Squirrel]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stop Messin'
Once in grade 1, Yngwie J Malmsteen made a Fender Stratocaster complete with scalloped fretboard out of macaroni, glue and paper. He then played E harmonic minor until the teacher creamed her panties and her vagina exploded in a rage of Focking Fury.


Yeah, i laughed so hard when she posted that :haha

[The UG Squirrel]

lol, yeh, there's always been at least one member of the "burn freepower and his evil transcription maths!" persuation around. I obviously feel horribly misunderstood. First it was Leevai, then Yngchtie and now wil, from time to time.

Who next? They've all eventually come to the understanding that it doesnt really matter, and then tried to convince me that i should think so too. Course, i find that really annoying, so the arguments last forever. I think i was a shred nooblet at the time you speak of, i kinda assumed everyone else had been around forever. :p:


The only thing i remember of Yngchtie here was him coming to the forum, getting owned by Resi, then leaving :p: . Oh, and him dobbing jasonbecker in for posting links to the Lanesblitz media section.

Jasonbecker is another shred regular thats left. We'll miss his Malmsteen bashing. :p:

[shredfan]

If I remember correctly, Willjay was another guy that kind of got driven out of the forum. He was like 'ok guys 18nps alternate picking is very fast'. Then loads of people were like 'you idiot Willjay, your not even starting to get quick until you play at least 25nps'.

And he actually based his calculations on 1 second clips that he had slowed down with special software- whereas most people just go with what their told, what everyone else is saying and what they see on innaccurate tabs.

He was way too speed obsessed, but at least he was very particular about accuaracy and note definition as well.

[Freepower]

^ he did get driven out. I think one side effect of having a list of what some people can attain has numbed people to speed. You get people coming in with 12nps petrucci solos and telling me that its 20nps - because to them, 20nps means really fast. And the petrucci solo is "really damn fast" so...

But it doesnt work like that. 20nps is like "omfg thats not human" fast. Willjay was entirely right, even if i dont agree with his method, i agree with his attitude. You listen to Rusty at his fastest, fareri sweeping his most gruesome shapes, shawn lane.... thats what we mean when we say 18nps. Its insanely, insanely fast, and theres not that many people out there can do it fluently and naturally. People have got this strange warping idea of speed and nps...they generally estimate a nps roughly a half again what it is.

[public property]

how many people can pick at 180bpm 16th notes cleanly for a prolonged amount of time? thats a pretty swift pace at 12nps, half again is 270bpm = 18nps. I doubt anyone in this board can pick a passge that vast, let alot cleanly.

[Resiliance]

I doubt anyone in this board can pick a passge that vast, let alot cleanly.


I don't.


But I do doubt the ones who say they can :p:

Furthermore, I don't care :wtf:

[Freepower]

^ its not the speed, its how fluent you are, imo. If you can cleanly, easily, and in a practical situation play at a speed, i'd feel you would be able to play that speed. I wouldnt say so if you can manage it "to a metronome". That implies simply playing a 3nps scale or fragment up to speed, seeing as "playing" guitar is a bit more tricky than just playing scales, i would prefer to use a word other than "play". I think a bit of elaboration when discussing speed is necessary!

[Resiliance]

^Ofcourse, but if you can play at a speed of x bpm to a metronome with a note division of x, you can, by definition, play at that speed...

The appliance is what seperates the men from the boys... But try setting rules for what's fluent.

[Freepower]

^ you're just jealous because he's getting a seriously awesome BJ out of shot, and you're sitting with sedora from www.imaloserhomealone.com.

;)

The appliance is what seperates the men from the boys... But try setting rules for what's fluent.

Its annoying how the important bit is the hard to define bit, eh? But you're exactly right, you can't set rules for whats fluent. But hey. Im glad you cant, imagine, it would be "most fluent guitarist thread?" with "fluent nps" and that kinda ****. No, i'll just use my ears and predjudice. But this is a ramble going nowhere, so i'll stop.

[Resiliance]

^ you're just jealous because he's getting a seriously awesome BJ out of shot, and you're sitting with sedora from www.imaloserhomealone.com.

;)


You're probably right, but, um... Who is? :confused:

:p:

[The UG Squirrel]

If I remember correctly, Willjay was another guy that kind of got driven out of the forum. He was like 'ok guys 18nps alternate picking is very fast'. Then loads of people were like 'you idiot Willjay, your not even starting to get quick until you play at least 25nps'.

And he actually based his calculations on 1 second clips that he had slowed down with special software- whereas most people just go with what their told, what everyone else is saying and what they see on innaccurate tabs.

He was way too speed obsessed, but at least he was very particular about accuaracy and note definition as well.


Yeah, he'd be very good for working out guitar speeds. He's in pretty much every forum i go to, same with Yngchtie.

[pavan]

where exactly did all this yngchie getting pwned take place?

[The UG Squirrel]

I can't remember...around November maybe? I'm not sure.

EDIT: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=306340

If that's true than i might know who it is that's pretending.

[SnowballofDoom]

^I think it was a bit before then, but whatever.

I just remember getting owned by him in a thread on Van Halen, back when I was slightly dumber. Just slightly.

[pavan]

Actually its been a long time since there were any enteraining arguments or flaming around here.

[mr_clapton]

then lets start a thread with something new that would definately cause a big argument resulting in ultimate pwnage ( i cant believe i said that) and someone being banished forever....but what should the topic be

[The UG Squirrel]

Start it here:p:

My playing has more emotion than yours.

[Freepower]

^ nuh huh. My acoustic precussive piece was played with so much emotion, i started using my tears to make a pattering noise on the body.

You're probably right, but, um... Who is? :confused:

:p:

Lol, i thought i was replying with a post of beckerism laughing at a fulara vid. I feel silly now!

[public property]

My playing is emotional because its all exercises, how can it not be emotional if you can hear how hard I'm trying to get fast :p:

[wil]

My playing is full of emotion- mainly anger and desperation as I screw up Mediterranean Sundance for the umpteenth time.

[Freepower]

^ he did get driven out. I think one side effect of having a list of what some people can attain has numbed people to speed. You get people coming in with 12nps petrucci solos and telling me that its 20nps - because to them, 20nps means really fast. And the petrucci solo is "really damn fast" so...

But it doesnt work like that. 20nps is like "omfg thats not human" fast. Willjay was entirely right, even if i dont agree with his method, i agree with his attitude. You listen to Rusty at his fastest, fareri sweeping his most gruesome shapes, shawn lane.... thats what we mean when we say 18nps. Its insanely, insanely fast, and theres not that many people out there can do it fluently and naturally. People have got this strange warping idea of speed and nps...they generally estimate a nps roughly a half again what it is.

Just to reinforce this, if you want to hear just how crazy fast that is...

http://www.rustycooley.com/videos/Betcha05Fast.mpg

This is around 18nps. Anyone coming in here claiming to play that fast better back it up. And then play it with that much emotion.

[Resiliance]

Anyone coming in here claiming to play that fast better back it up. And then play it with that much emotion.


:haha

[wil]

I tried to play it and ended up being quite emotional when i realised he owned me completely...
I think Cooley originally did his Betcha Cant Play this on his eight string but, in the name plausability, he redid it on a six...

[shredfan]

Apparently Rusty's original 'Betcha Can't Play This' was rejected by GW for being too difficult.

[Freepower]

^ it was on a 8 string and was far too difficult. He was all like "Duh, thats the point, mutha****as" and then tracked down the editor and turned him into mush with his sweeps.

[PooKoo]

:haha

[apocalypse13]

I second that PooKoo.

[pavan]

Just saw Bill & Ted's bogus journey, Vai was a little dull.

[Beckerism]

Lol, i thought i was replying with a post of beckerism laughing at a fulara vid. I feel silly now!

I moved it because I realized it should be in the Video thread. :p: Suckerfish>you.

Edit: How do you pronounce Vigier?

[SnowballofDoom]

^Vee-gee-eh, from the Latin word meaning 'to pwn'.

Right. I don't actually know.

[Freepower]

Vij (like fridge) - ee ay

[paddyo]

ATTENTION!:One of the Robberts(it will become clear soon) is a fake and the other who was around was using another guys songs and even some vids!?:grrr: Take a look: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=306340

[PooKoo]

what? It says the server is too busy...

[paddyo]

Fussion-Robbert is a fake using a different Robbert(Robbert H on this forum)'s vids and mp3's!! It's not him! Here's the real Rob's site http://www.putfile.com/robberthanenberg .

[PooKoo]

laaaaaaame...

[Beckerism]

Vij (like fridge) - ee ay

Ah! I should have guess it was French. There goes my 3 years of French put to waste. :cool:

[apocalypse13]

On subject of pronouncing, how do you say Nicolo Paganini's name? :confused:

[Beckerism]

Nicolo Pag (Pahg) a (mama) nEEnEE I believe.

Does anyone have the full Under the Influence Song? I've only heard clips.

[SnowballofDoom]

Here you go: http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=104TAFWEBHUVD0AI7ZZIL65PVH

Hope Rusty won't mind :)

[Beckerism]

Here you go: http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=104TAFWEBHUVD0AI7ZZIL65PVH

Hope Rusty won't mind :)

Thanks man. If he does, I'll ninja kick him in half, Yngwie style.

[pavan]

you should ninja kick some other people. Like Eminem.
That is, if you can

[apocalypse13]

Snowball is the shiznit when it comes to uploading and finding songs.

:D I just learned how to Buckethead tap!@!@#$!@3 I got to work on cleanliness, but it's not difficult to keep clean, and it's also easy to make it sound fast, because with all the tapping going on, you're really going faster than you think. I've only got 6 fingers working though; If I use 8 it sounds like ass.

[Night_Lights]

someone point me in the direction of a in-depth lesson on bucketheads style?

[PooKoo]

"Then back in the states...

Sunday, September 18th
At the Vic Theatre in Chicago
Drum Pad 20th Anniversary

Cygnus & The Sea Monsters (a Tribute to Rush)
Mike Portnoy: Drums
Paul Gilbert: Guitar
Sean Malone: Bass
Jason McMaster: Vocals"


anyone else wish they lived near chicago?

I'd love to see senior paulo play some rush.

[apocalypse13]

someone point me in the direction of a in-depth lesson on bucketheads style?
there isn't one you've got to figure it out yourself.

Here's where I learned the tapping from. (the last exercise)
http://chopsfromhell.com/guest_delcalzo1.html

Here's a lesson he did that might give you an idea of what it's supposed to look and sound like.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3444593949853639826&q=buckethead

I usually tap octaves with it, but it doesn't matter, as long as it has a pattern and each tap is distinctly different from the last one, it sounds freaking killer.

[leevish]

Hey. some of bucketheads tapping sequences are in-humane. there are some really useful and in depth lessons at http://www.bingeandgrab.com/ ...they even have pictures :p: . hope that helped. :D

[PooKoo]

http://www.bingeandgrab.com/tabs.html

whoo!

[leevish]

On the topic of buckethead, can anyone play the solos from welcome to bucketheadland or binge and grab?

[apocalypse13]

I can't play any Buckethead, he's way to difficult.

[wil]

^ yeah, i dont like admitting it, but Bucketheads stuff is a bit crazy--ive heard a GnR bootleg where he does this live solo, with whatsounds like eight finger tapping and some mad chickin'pickin'-

[pavan]

Buckethead is crazy

[soccermom]

i am a shredder but i am not gonna put down nirvana they were a good band and he may not been able to sweep pick or tap out of his mind but he wrote smells like teen spirit and none of us did and that is a good riff.

[soccermom]

i was watching this buckethead solo what is that he is pressing on his guitar like a button by the bridge.

[Scorzerci]

a killswitch(killbutton i guess...)

[apocalypse13]

i am a shredder but i am not gonna put down nirvana they were a good band and he may not been able to sweep pick or tap out of his mind but he wrote smells like teen spirit and none of us did and that is a good riff.Whatever. Buckethead could outwrite Kurt Cobain in two notes.

[pavan]

^cobain could bare his soul in one note

[paddyo]

^One singing note-Possibly debatable. One guitar note-No absolutely not:)

[Resiliance]

Raise your hand if you're in a thread that has a ridiculously stupid last three posts!






o/

[Freepower]

\o
]\
/\








Competitive? Moi?

[PooKoo]

^cobain could bare his soul in one note

kurt cobains soul is disgusting and terrible, and noone wants to see or hear it, in any note, neither singing and definantly not guitar.

[leevish]

lol buckethead owns, and anyone who thinks hes just some shred crazy practice freak should take a listen to colma and electric tears.

[apocalypse13]

^One singing note-Possibly debatable. One guitar note-No absolutely not:)
Precisely 16 notes would pwn anyone. 8 finger tapping on two strings...;)

Raise your hand if you're in a thread that has a ridiculously stupid last three posts!






o/
Raise your hand if you feel Kurt Cobain is one person who should absolutely not be ever mentioned again in this forum, unless it's in the form of (Insert Shredder)>Cobain




o/

[PooKoo]

hammet > cobain

(im not inserting a "shredder" im making a point, so dont bitch about hammet)

[apocalypse13]

:golfclap:

[PooKoo]

:cheers:

[apocalypse13]

OmFG re U liKE saiGN thaT LiEK shreDer5 r 1i3K be77er Sognrites then liK CURt Kunbain>?@!# HaMEMT arE juSt LikE a sp33D 0bSe55ed FreAK hoo dosnT evn CaRE aBut songWritiGn At All;@!#

[PooKoo]

LOL! n00bdnot u h@v st agner he dont evn solo onrtinh an litstein 2 notihng elz maters

[chase09]

0MFG u n00bz liek wtF k1nd 4 m0r0n w00d 3v4 s4y d47 kUrt keRbanG 1z gud sn0gr1gh73r li3k t0t411y f177y sC3n7 0wnz0rz d3r3 4zz3s at g1t4r. 0mg h3 w0nce palyd 5 n0t3s in 1 snecod liek OMG

[apocalypse13]

LOL! n00bdnot u h@v st agner he dont evn solo onrtinh an litstein 2 notihng elz maters

OMfg I luv THat Song! KiRK Gos lieK 27 Bets pur SEcnod! ButF Th@t dosnt MatteR cuz KurT CObaIn LikE pwNs him On songritin6!

[public property]

:( The last 3 posts hurt me, hurt me bad.

[apocalypse13]

OOMG ur Ju57 1ik3 @ N00|8

[chase09]

^ewe n00bi3 i dun toad j00 dat fi77y c3nt palyed at 5 nps. but ay chokcd it agen bcoz i t0ht it wuz unr3alistiC nd i7 i5 3.55. OMG liek hsi nu s0ng is liek h0l3 n0tz @ 12 batz a min sow tat is liek 9 nps rite? OMG h3 iz fs4t

[PooKoo]

:( The last 3 posts hurt me, hurt me bad.

*cyber hugz*

[apocalypse13]

I'm cracking up at these ridiculous posts of ours.

[PooKoo]

same.

[chase09]

i can't believe that i even actually posted that :eek:

[PooKoo]

welcome to my world.

[Axegrinder#9]

Raise your hand if you feel Kurt Cobain is one person who should absolutely not be ever mentioned again in this forum, unless it's in the form of (Insert Shredder)>Cobain




o/

motion seconded.

[apocalypse13]

:cheers:

[pavan]

baaaaaaah























bashing cobain and hammet seems to be the "in-thing" these days.

[pavan]

Do you guys not realise noone ****ing cares.

It's all about the music, who cares what you call what and who is what, shut the hell up and go practice towards whatever goal you have set for yourself.

Learn to have some fucking respect for other things, you're acting like a bunch of xenophobes.




We don't need this.

amen

[kirkisking]

lol WTh is going on? :p:

[PooKoo]

dont ask'
hehe

[leevish]

wootuf. im leaving.

[Hammett88]

Question, forget technical playing for a sec, the guitar has been around for hundreds of years, how is it that no one came up with the main riff in Smells Like Teen Spirit, it's so simple, yet so good, but lets say Yngwie writes **** that is so ****ty that maybe in 10 years when my ears will be as trained as his I'll actually see the huge difference between each repetitive pile of crap. By the way I heard tons of Malmsteen's stuff so don't go "Hey noob, you are not a cool shredder like me that jacks off on a picture of Yngwie's man titties..."

[PooKoo]

you should just leave now. This isnt a slash thread, you have no reason to be here.

[leevish]

i came back. how is smells like teen spirit in anyway good? its repetitive turd. plus the fact the yngwie pwns you.

[pavan]

dont get excited if someone mentions a name that inspires hate in you. Keep it to yourself. Some people like Ashlee Simpson's music, and some scrutinise every note Malmsteen plays. Music is relative. I may get excited by some chugging powerchords, you may not. so shut the **** up. This might as well be the 3rd page in succession where people talk about punk musicians in a random shred chat thread.

Anyone seen the NAMM93 video which has JS, Steve Vai, Andy T, PG, Shawn Lane, Reb Beach & Alex Sckolnick? nice video, I may upload it after sometime when my computer is in a better mood.

Edit : Been listening to Shawn Lane for a good 2hours today. Done my ears good.

[Freepower]

^ i've introduced about 50 people to the shawn recently. And so much shawn as well. He's all im listening to when i specifically choose something atm.

[Hammett88]

"i came back. how is smells like teen spirit in anyway good? its repetitive turd. plus the fact the yngwie pwns you." Quote of the "Leevish"

You do realize how stupid that comment was right?

[Resiliance]

Anyone seen the NAMM93 video which has JS, Steve Vai, Andy T, PG, Shawn Lane, Reb Beach & Alex Sckolnick?

Yup. :p:

[PooKoo]

good vid, i think someone uploaded it a while back.

[Scorzerci]

You do realize how stupid that comment was right?
i don't

[PooKoo]

me neither

[Hammett88]

Dudes' look at it this way, the guys says Yngwie pwns me, it's like you talk to a 12 year old kid abut soccer(don't ask me why) and you say Liverpool are playing like bitches this season, and than he says oh you are a dumbass Gerrard pwns you. Dumbass, Gerrard is a pro, plays in Liverpool and England, and I'm a kid that plays once a month for fun, am I supposed to feel insulted, that's just lame, he's got nothing better to say, so Yngwie pwns me, who gives a ****.
By the way, if it's wrong for me to dis Yngwie because he's way better at playing than I am, how is it ok for you to dis Cobain when he's more creative than all you virtuousos put together. It's a long post, eat ****.

[paddyo]

^:haha Oh sorry, excuse me while I go eat **** then....

[apocalypse13]

How do you know how creative anyone in this forum is, dumbass? Public Property could destroy Cobain in every single aspect of music.

[leevish]

theres no point wasting time having the "famous rockstar" verus "talented shredder agrument" ... people have seen it before. just get back to the topic.

[apocalypse13]

There's no topic. Make one.

[leevish]

How do you know how creative anyone in this forum is, dumbass? Public Property could destroy Cobain in every single aspect of music.

lol :D

[Scorzerci]

Alright, you that kurt cobain is more creative than kurt cobain... Have you ever listened to Steve Vai? One of the most creative guitarists ever. Yngwie, he basically invented the neo-classical genre and IMO you'd have to be pretty damn creative to create your own genre that is still being played 20 years later.
If you want to go talk about Kurt Cobain go to it in another forum.

[paddyo]

Topic=Random, Leevish;)

[leevish]

crap, im really lagged. fine ill make a topic then. anyone played their shredding skills infront of a live audience?

[paddyo]

Ok lets all stop with the who's more creative than who arguements! There soooo pointless and uber annoying.(I know I commented on it a few pages back but that was stupid and it was late,I was tired etc..)

[apocalypse13]

How bout Maiden, Sabbath and Priest? They invented metal!

crap, im really lagged. fine ill make a topic then. anyone played their shredding skills infront of a live audience?
No, dammit. I've never really had a chance....