** The Random Shred Chat Thread **

[PooKoo]

if you do, pm me if its not too much of a bother, i only have 1 dimeola and friday night in san francisco.

[Master Of Shred]

^Yeah, that's not that SUPER guitar trio though, it "just" the guitar trio.

[Godly Moose]

btw, stratwizard, i listened to the stuff you put up, twas very good. Excellent tone specially.

Yeah I did too, really good sounding, good job.

[priest.fan.]

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343198&page=2

another classic example of ignorance. >:0

[canadianshred]

^these threads seem to be popping up everywhere lately

[SnowballofDoom]

Meh, just ignore 'em.

[SGRocker0791]

Should you guys say sorry to Mr. curtis loew? :p:

[SnowballofDoom]

Hah, seriously, he didn't actually do anything wrong.

Tonight was the first time I even saw that MC poll...

[priest.fan.]

^same here. lol.

[splice]

Should you guys say sorry to Mr. curtis loew? :p:


yea that was a tad harsh

[Night_Lights]

go over to Muscicians Talk and help me with my barre sweeping :(

[HammerForce]

Ye, I know 1700 Euros is about 2000 Dollars. But it was in Swiss Francs, which have a very different exchange rate....

Edit: I found the link. I just wish I'd had 700 odd quid to buy the bloody thing.
Clicky (http://cgi.ebay.ch/Electric-Guitar-Vigier-Excalibur-Custom-Gold-Strat_W0QQitemZ7393586454QQcategoryZ46647QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[Beckerism]

Am I the only one that thinks Vigiers are ugly as ****? *Climbs back into hole*

[Stratwizard]

Well, some of them look very cool, and some of them just plain ugly.

[Freepower]

http://www.vigierguitars.com/gcatalog/GIcata/Ve7UM.JPG

Eurgh.

http://www.vigierguitars.com/gcatalog/GIcata/ve6u_LS.jpg

:liplick:

[Resiliance]

Am I the only one that thinks Vigiers are ugly as ****? *Climbs back into hole*

Yeah, I don't like their looks a whole lot either.

[SGRocker0791]

http://www.vigierguitars.com/gcatalog/GIcata/Ve7UM.JPG

Eurgh.

http://www.vigierguitars.com/gcatalog/GIcata/ve6u_LS.jpg

:liplick:

Nice guitars. :liplick:

[mort1]

Yeah, I don't like their looks a whole lot either.

i like them better than fender, fender is just booring, they all look the same to me.. :peace:

[Resiliance]

Ehm, well Fender have a tad more range in guitar looks than Vigier... Don't see how you can say "Fender is just boring"...

[PooKoo]

is mos really banned?

[Resiliance]

^We can only hope...

[mort1]

Ehm, well Fender have a tad more range in guitar looks than Vigier... Don't see how you can say "Fender is just boring"...

i dont say that i like virgins but i dont like the shape of fenders, i just think every one look the same, i dont know why, but i just dont like them...... :confused:

[Resiliance]

Virgins :D

[PooKoo]

:haha

[mort1]

ahhhhh ****,,,, spelled t wrong, bloody hell.......vigier...........
****......... lol......

[PooKoo]

:haha :haha

[Dirtydeeds468]

Lawl @ "virgins"

:haha

Yeah, Virgins all look the same until I'M done with them :cool:

[pavan]

I think the virgin thing was deliberate

MOS no more?? I didnt know. Time to celebrate !

[Dirtydeeds468]

What's wrong with MoS, anyway?

I only caught the end of the whole ordeal, so don't blame me...:peace:

[Resiliance]

Many things...

[Dirtydeeds468]

...

....

...such as.....?


Come on, give me something to work with...! :p:

[PooKoo]

did he get banned for the motley crue thing? if so, that guy was a douche but still.

[Freepower]

Ah, mos. Why is it when he turns annoying he gets into GIT and gets vigiers left right and center?

Why dont us nice guys get anything?

(other than a diploma handbook and guthries books... :D )

[Matt_Malmsteen]

Am I the only one that thinks Vigiers are ugly as ****? *Climbs back into hole*

I agree *hides*

[priest.fan.]

I like some vigiers. They look very elegant imo. Of course, as freepower pointed out, some of them look like ass. And not in a good way.

now, suhr's on the other hand... :liplick:

too bad I can't afford any of them :/ But then, I suppose I'm not good enough to justufy buying a $3000+ guitar anyways.

[Erc]

^ you two should die!!!

Vigiers are beautiful =)

Anyways, FP would you recommend the guthrie books? I've heard about them a little on the Guthrie forum and I've thought about picking them up.

[priest.fan.]

^ you two should die!!!

Vigiers are beautiful =)

Anyways, FP would you recommend the guthrie books? I've heard about them a little on the Guthrie forum and I've thought about picking them up.

I'll assume that wasn't directed at me... ?

>_>

[Erc]

^ Haha no sorry, didn't post fast enough =(

[Freepower]

^ you two should die!!!

Vigiers are beautiful =)

Anyways, FP would you recommend the guthrie books? I've heard about them a little on the Guthrie forum and I've thought about picking them up.

I'll tell you when i get book em, just bought the second one there, will bother with the first some other time. :)

[Erc]

^ Allright, cool.

[Beckerism]

^ you two should die!!!

Vigiers are beautiful =)

Anyways, FP would you recommend the guthrie books? I've heard about them a little on the Guthrie forum and I've thought about picking them up.

Pssh, I'd take a nicely painted/decorated RG or a PGM over a Vigier anyday. :p:

Edit: http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chocolatefactory0us.jpg
http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0V0PIV73GNT4S0G60D3NERANIO

What is this song gerddermit. :p:

[Freepower]

^ norra clue, why's it matter? In a non-cheeky manner of speaking.

I've started transcribing my first stuff! :headbang:

A lane melody line from an old bootleg... i find it really hard to notate the rhythm, let alone get the feel, but thats life. I think i've got 8 or so notes down, but im loving it. :p:

[Beckerism]

I'm a curious little bitch and want to know. :p:

It's a song a friend is tabbing and and not telling me what it is, although supposively I know the song. :confused: That picture of the tab was a hint.


Bonus: http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=79AC005A702FAC79

[PooKoo]

yo i decided that since i hate the distortion on my amp (its not even bad sounding, its just a bitch to play legato with), i shall basically practice clean toned till i can get a better one .


/random.

[canadianshred]

How was Satch Pookoo?

[mr_clapton]

haha i just read that thread with curtis loew MoS got banned :( but he only could have lasted so long anyone know how many times he been banned

[Godly Moose]

Pssh, I'd take a nicely painted/decorated RG or a PGM over a Vigier anyday. :p:

Edit: http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chocolatefactory0us.jpg
http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0V0PIV73GNT4S0G60D3NERANIO

What is this song gerddermit. :p:

I hope you enjoy your AIDS now! :no:

[TheUltimateSin]

Not to change the subject, but changing the subject slighty.....

I noticed that at the end of Becker's 5th caprice video, he has this huge "Yes, I am the shit" type of grin on his face.....

[Erc]

yo i decided that since i hate the distortion on my amp (its not even bad sounding, its just a bitch to play legato with), i shall basically practice clean toned till i can get a better one .


/random.


Hey I do the same!

[TheUltimateSin]

So yeah since I'm a bit of a music knob, I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand in identifying these 2 scales (http://media.putfile.com/2-unknown-scales). I'm pretty sure the first one starts on a B, but that's all I know.

[ILoveHarmonics]

^ norra clue, why's it matter? In a non-cheeky manner of speaking.

I've started transcribing my first stuff! :headbang:

A lane melody line from an old bootleg... i find it really hard to notate the rhythm, let alone get the feel, but thats life. I think i've got 8 or so notes down, but im loving it. :p:

I tried transcribing a sonata from JS Bach and it took me 2.5 hours to get about 20 seconds of music down. I agree with the statement that transcribing rythm is a bitch. Maybe I should start with something that contains metronome like drums.

[PooKoo]

How was Satch Pookoo?

****ing insane.

most of the time i was abuot 6 feet from him, basically on the stage. it was ****ing sick.

eric johnson was great too.

[mr_clapton]

yeah i saw satch when he came out here about this time last year man he puts on a show

[Erc]

Hey FP do you have those pictures for holding the pick for oscilation picking? It seems as though I've ****ed up my picking along the way and my pointer finger is cramping pretty bad, and its due to the way I've been holding it.

[paddyo]

^Sorry for interupting your question Erc,I should really wait. ^ANSWER ABOVE Q FIRST!^;)
Please check out my recording of some piano arps if you've got time. The quality is **** and my Piano is hella old so dont mind that. Thanks.

EDIT: Bollox! The link: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=347504

[Freepower]

Hey FP do you have those pictures for holding the pick for oscilation picking? It seems as though I've ****ed up my picking along the way and my pointer finger is cramping pretty bad, and its due to the way I've been holding it.

Im afraid i dont have em any more. It shouldnt be too hard to get a new grip thats slightly more relaxed...

[Stratwizard]

Someone give me a link to thread, where Mos got banned.

[Matt_Malmsteen]

yo i decided that since i hate the distortion on my amp (its not even bad sounding, its just a bitch to play legato with), i shall basically practice clean toned till i can get a better one .


/random.

Don't you practice on clean tone anyway? :confused:

...I like practice everything on clean tone until I've got it prety much nailed and then I add the distortion....is that just me or..I'm confused :confused:

[ILoveHarmonics]

I practise without any amplification most of the time. Guess that gave me kind of a forcefull pickstroke but I don't mind that to much. When I turn up the amp I start noodling too soon and nobody deserved to hear me repeating the same thing over and over again :D.

[slash_620]

I practice without an amp a lot of the time because it's a real bitch to set up i my room, but when i have an amp, i normaly play with a the gain level on 3 and some delay to mask my crappy playing.

[Stratwizard]

You should practice with distortion, unless you're training strenght. It's a lot easier to do techniques on clean channel, cause there's no noise when you move from string to string. When you change to distortion, you have suddenly a **** load of noise.

[PooKoo]

yeah but my distortion is terrible for playign and it makes me sad.

and paddyo, ill check your piano **** out in a lil.

[beaker]

workman always blames his tools....

[PooKoo]

no, its really the distortion, i can play fine through my friends amp.

well, i can play fine through mine too, its just not cool, cant explain it.

[mort1]

no, its really the distortion, i can play fine through my friends amp.

well, i can play fine through mine too, its just not cool, cant explain it.

seems like you got a problem..........lol.......
:D

[beaker]

too much noise? bad tone? you using the amps distortion?

[PooKoo]

nah, pedal, amps got like, no distortion on it really, anyways, it works for basically everything but when i try and do legato it just dies for me, no idea how to explain it, it isnt my technique. I have to press really hard to get any sound.

[ILoveHarmonics]

You could buy a compressor.

[PooKoo]

eh. Im fine, i probably just gotta **** around with it a little, its a great amp as it is though, all tube and such.

[apocalypse13]

A thread that was closed in the metal forum seemed interesting:

Who do you think is the best guitarist in metal today?

Jeff Loomis and Muhammed ftw

[PooKoo]

not into necrowhatever much, but i agree that guys insane, loomis is great (wanna upload me some more nevermore ;)), um, not sure, dont listen to much metal, i personally love df, but i wont say they're good, I guess any of the powermetal bands. I <3 stratovarious, etc. So i guess what i'm trying to say is,


"zOMG GUYZ ZAKK WYLD3 IZ LYKE UB3R GUD N SUTFF BUT HE CNT CMPORARE 2 RNDY BUT HEZ N0T OVERYUTWEITATRED LYKE SL@$H LOL!"

sorry, havent had a need to noob talk in so long, had to to get it out.

[Erc]

Muhammad and Loomis are some of the better ones out there today. The guy from Quo Vadis is pretty good. Anybody from any prog band is good to. But best, hell I don't know.

[PooKoo]

not to derail apocs topic, but real quick,

RESI!

how much was your laney? im seriously thinking about driving down to va to get one sometime over the summer and need to know how much dick i have to suck to get the money.

[Beckerism]

http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=4242A59B394087CC

[PooKoo]

yes beckerism?

holy ****! is that what he was tabbing out?

UPLOAD THE FOCKIN TAB!!!!!!!

[Beckerism]

Yes. It was. And no, not for you yet! :liplick:

[PooKoo]

ah, not till its done?

haha dude thats ****ign sweet.

[apocalypse13]

not into necrowhatever much, but i agree that guys insane, loomis is great (wanna upload me some more nevermore ;)),

http://rapidshare.de/files/18457476/Nevermore-_The_Psalm_of_Lydia.mp3.html

:) You will cry over the solo's awesomeness. I listened to this song at LEAST 30 times over vacation.

[priest.fan.]

imo michael romeo is one of the best metal guitarists around at the moment, the sea of lies solo is just sooo cool. Especially the tapping part. I like symphony X in general.

[apocalypse13]

Yeah, forgot about him.

Edit: And Alexi, even though I think Loomis, Romeo, and Muhammed would eat him.

[Stratwizard]

Best metal guitarists?

Micheal Amott, Kristian Ranta, Petri Lindroos, Jani Liimatainen, Muhammed, Alexi Laiho (meh)

[Matt_Malmsteen]

Best metal guitarists...*thinks*
Loomis, Muhammed, Krisitan Ranta, Michael Romeo, Luca Turilli, Michael Amott, the guys from Opeth(can't remember names)....

[Stratwizard]

^Mikael Åkerfeldt and Peter Lindgren.

[slash_620]

Do you have to have an account on rapidshare to download the file?

I can't find the link to download it

As for best metal guitarist, Michael Ammot is my favourite, i used to think Lahio was amazing but then got sooooo bored of COB.

[paddyo]

^You click the download for free("free") button and then wait for your ticket. There'll be a timer and after that a code of 3 numbers or letters appears which you put in the box and click download!

[slash_620]

^You click the download for free("free") button and then wait for your ticket. There'll be a timer and after that a code of 3 numbers or letters appears which you put in the box and click download!

Ah ha, thanks paddyo.

[Resiliance]

not to derail apocs topic, but real quick,

RESI!

how much was your laney? im seriously thinking about driving down to va to get one sometime over the summer and need to know how much dick i have to suck to get the money.

http://www.thomann.de/thoiw2_laney_gh50l_prodinfo.html

At the time I bought it it was at 600 though.

[Stratwizard]

Only 619? :eek:

[HammerForce]

Best metal guitarists: Muhammed, Jani Liimatainen, Luca Turilli, Kai Hansen oh, and Timo Tolkki.

Resi, do you have a Dmusic account or something where I can hear your amp? Also, what rig do use other than that amp?
Also, if anyone has any suggestions as to the best amp for shred/metal (power metal) it'd be nice of them to let me know as i'm looking to upgrade. I'm looking to spend up to £650. I was thinking of getting a head and a cab. I was thinking about 50 watts (valve). Feel free to give me your advice.

[PooKoo]

http://www.thomann.de/thoiw2_laney_gh50l_prodinfo.html

At the time I bought it it was at 600 though.

:cheers:
thanks a lot man.

[apocalypse13]

Do you have to have an account on rapidshare to download the file?

I can't find the link to download it

As for best metal guitarist, Michael Ammot is my favourite, i used to think Lahio was amazing but then got sooooo bored of COB.
Yeah Amott owns too. Both of them (Chris and Michael) are really good.

[Igorek]

Muhammed Suicmez, Michael Romeo, Karl Sanders, Dallas Toler-Wade, Amott Brothers, Jeff Loomis...

[GibsonSGSupreme]

http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=4242A59B394087CC

END OF THE BEGINNING!!!!!! UPLOAD THE TAB!!!!!! NOW!!!!! RRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

that solo at 4:10 is orgasmic. at least upload that part.

[slash_620]

^You click the download for free("free") button and then wait for your ticket. There'll be a timer and after that a code of 3 numbers or letters appears which you put in the box and click download!

I just tried it again and nothing happened, nothing at all. :confused:

Gah, it's probably just me emssing up somehow...

[pavan]

who said jems are ugly?
http://www.magnusolsson.com/pics/nya_gitarrer/jemm_stor.jpg

[apocalypse13]

^Zomg

[TheUltimateSin]

who said jems are ugly?
http://www.magnusolsson.com/pics/nya_gitarrer/jemm_stor.jpg

:eek:
That is one secksay geetar

[Resiliance]

Thought it was still ugly meself.

[TheUltimateSin]

^Quiet you! Quit being....different!

[mr_clapton]

i didnt like it either....i dont like rosewood necks...:(

[priest.fan.]

imo the white jems look better than the mirror ones... its just too "flashy" for me. But I like the look of jems in general, although I would prefer a UV (7 string). ... I want a seven string :/

and yes, resi. Quit being different and become a conformist sheep before we smack you. :p:

[canadianshred]

no way 80's flouresent pink and green JEM's own white ones

[PooKoo]

Amen.

flower jems > you

[Reemster]

The white Jem was the one I always wanted, but it was too expensive.. I still like the one I have though :) Tomorrow I receive my new guitar: a Bo-El Marcel Coenen signature. :D I'll post some pictures once I have it.

[canadianshred]

Lucky basterd

[GibsonSGSupreme]

:O no way a 7 string? dude im so poor right now i just bought a 3400$ bike!!!! i wish i bought a new guitar now!!!!

[canadianshred]

Bike!?!?
your no guitarist, I don't care how well you can play serrana arp.

[priest.fan.]

:O no way a 7 string? dude im so poor right now i just bought a 3400$ bike!!!! i wish i bought a new guitar now!!!!

3400 on a bike?

... wow.

[GibsonSGSupreme]

lol yes a bike. i race competitively. and my bike..... well it was 2500...... but it busted.... the fork snapped and the frame bent.... so i needed a more.... durable ride.... so i bought a 2006 norco a-line. and i am a guitarist. i have 2. a gibson sg supreme and my ibanez. but before we comment more on how dumb i am for buying a bike..... remeber this is a guitar site and a guitar forum.... not a bike forum.

[Beckerism]

Man, that monkey grip just makes me go flaccid every time. :(

[Godly Moose]

who said jems are ugly?
http://www.magnusolsson.com/pics/nya_gitarrer/jemm_stor.jpg

*Has fretgasm*

[Ace88]

Question.


How long should it take someone practicing about 2-3 hours every day to master the fine art of shredding? Is there like a special trick to it, because i keep practicing and practicing but im only getting marginally quicker and more accurate in my playing.

[apocalypse13]

Well that's as good as it gets...

There's no special trick to make you learn it overnight. It takes a LOT of practice.

Just focus on no tension and accuracy. Speed will come over time. If you're accurate and loose when you practice slowly, you'll be accurate and loose when you eventually become fast.

That's the biggest tip I can give, good luck! :cheers:

[priest.fan.]

Question.


How long should it take someone practicing about 2-3 hours every day to master the fine art of shredding? Is there like a special trick to it, because i keep practicing and practicing but im only getting marginally quicker and more accurate in my playing.

well, "shredding" covers a huge range of difficult techniques like sweeping, string skipping, legato, fast alternate picking, etc etc... but to "master" shredding, it should only take you about a lifetime :p:

[Ace88]

I have the string skipping part down pretty much, and im working on sweep picking at the moment. I keep practicing different scales as fast as i can go without mucking it up...i guess i'll have a couple of recordings up in that other thread soon, and im totally open to bad critiquing.

[apocalypse13]

well, "shredding" covers a huge range of difficult techniques like sweeping, string skipping, legato, fast alternate picking, etc etc... but to "master" shredding, it should only take you about a lifetime :p:
Even Rusty Cooley has flaws.

lol

[priest.fan.]

Even Rusty Cooley has flaws.

lol

yeah, he doesn't have enough emotion.




































































bwahahahaha that was hard to say with a straight face :p:

[apocalypse13]

:haha

I mean, his fretting hand technique is not as good as it could be.

[splice]

yeah dude good you asked here....if you ask in the "musician forum" youll get answers like....

JuSt tRy To LeARn YOuR FaVoRIte SonGz!!@@!!

do what apoc said

make up some of your own exercises too

[Axegrinder#9]

yo guys I thought you folks might wanna listen to our rerecorded original song with vocals and restructured guitar parts... I'm not sure if you guy's will like it 'cos it's more of a rock fusion thing... but anyway here it is, do leave a crit if you guys like it/ or not

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=333586

[ILoveHarmonics]

^listened to it and you rock, but not if you sig this.

[Stratwizard]

****... DM acting weird now, I'll listen it later... :peace:

[TheI7ark]

:haha

I mean, his fretting hand technique is not as good as it could be.

The man speaks the truth. Impeliterri's left hand technique of barely removing his fingers from the strings Vs. Cooley's hands flapping wildly in the air, probably to keep air circulating arround his body to keep it cool so that he doesn't melt down, because he is in fact a robot. :eek:

[GibsonSGSupreme]

true, but impellitteri is the 2nd craziest alt. picker ive seen (next to shawn lane). rusty is a blend of all of the skills almost mastered. shawn and chris have mastered alt pickin.

[apocalypse13]

^yeah fo sho, that's a good way to put it.


Kirkisking (W/ the Jay and Silent Bob avatar) has been banninated!! :eek:

[Resiliance]

You can't "master" anything.

[pavan]

bate..............


(sorry, lame)

[apocalypse13]

^^You can master materia on FF7.

:p:

[pavan]

resi got the blues http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXdnjritCsc&search=funny%20guitar

[Stratwizard]

:haha He sure does!

[apocalypse13]

:haha

[PooKoo]

o
m
g

[Freepower]

Hey, at least he's doing something with his short man syndrome...

[pavan]

Shred forum spamsters get together and jam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAY7v26-cOU&search=funny

[canadianshred]

:haha :haha
look its erich

[PooKoo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grWcg7wWPkY&search=boing

[slash_620]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grWcg7wWPkY&search=boing

:p: :p: :p:

[slash_620]

I just listened to inhuman rampage by dragonforce, and realized how wrong i was saying these guys weren't worth the hype, These guys are amazing!

[HammerForce]

That's funny I think Inhuman Rampage is their worst album. I was wondering about Shawn Lane, whats the best album to get for someone who's never really listened to fusion before and hasn't eard much Lane?
Also did anyone read my question abut getting a new amp a couple of days ago?

[Beckerism]

Becker now has a myspace.

[TheUltimateSin]

^Sweet

[NevermorePsalm]

That's funny I think Inhuman Rampage is their worst album. I was wondering about Shawn Lane, whats the best album to get for someone who's never really listened to fusion before and hasn't eard much Lane?
Also did anyone read my question abut getting a new amp a couple of days ago?

Just get Powers of Ten,

[PooKoo]

That's funny I think Inhuman Rampage is their worst album. I was wondering about Shawn Lane, whats the best album to get for someone who's never really listened to fusion before and hasn't eard much Lane?
Also did anyone read my question abut getting a new amp a couple of days ago?

If you cant find it, pm me, you know what im saying?

[Stratwizard]

Becker now has a myspace.

Link?

[Matt_Malmsteen]

^^You can master materia on FF7.

:p:

pwnd that game :p:

[HammerForce]

That game is awesome. Best game ever :D
you can get to Beckers myspace through a link on his site. It's in the news section.

[Metalology]

resi got the blues http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXdnjritCsc&search=funny%20guitar


:haha :haha

[Freepower]

Oh, erc (i think it twas erc asking) -

The guthrie book is sweet. Not life changing, but very good. Bastard steals my ****ing ideas though.

EVERY time i come up with a sweet stretch lick, harmonic chord, fingering method, either Lane, Cooley or Guthrie ****ing record it first.

[Stratwizard]

^At least you're doing something right. ;)

[Erc]

Oh, erc (i think it twas erc asking) -

The guthrie book is sweet. Not life changing, but very good. Bastard steals my ****ing ideas though.

EVERY time i come up with a sweet stretch lick, harmonic chord, fingering method, either Lane, Cooley or Guthrie ****ing record it first.

Is it the technique book or the theory book?

Oh and I'll probably pick it up sometime relatively soon.

[Freepower]

^ "Advanced Techniques" - Creative Rock bk 2. :) He did a theory one?

Theres plenty of theory in it, just nothing too deep.

^At least you're doing something right. ;)

Pah. The other annoying thing is that they also do it a lot BETTER than me, and probably better than i ever will. Twats.

[Stratwizard]

Pah. The other annoying thing is that they also do it a lot BETTER than me, and probably better than i ever will. Twats.

Then get your lazy ass off the UG and start practising! :p:

[Beckerism]

END OF THE BEGINNING!!!!!! UPLOAD THE TAB!!!!!! NOW!!!!! RRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

that solo at 4:10 is orgasmic. at least upload that part.

Golbez/Bryan posted it here:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=72303306&MyToken=05eec456-7fc4-4f05-8ddd-710df999dfa4

17th post.

[Reemster]

Although it's been a few pages that Mos' very nice guitar (s) have been discussed I would like to show you the one I bought yesterday. This one is a Bo-el MC 6,a Marcel Coenen signature.

Specs: ( partly copied from the Bo-el website)

Body: 2 parts ash carved top
Neck: Hardrock maple set neck
Fingerboard: Rosewood. Jumbo Frets
Pickups: 2 Bo~el HB-SD/6 Humbuckers
Controls: Volume pot, tone pot with phase switch
Pickup Switching: 5-way switch and mini switch for coil split
Bridge: 6 string "pro edge" with push-in arm.
Hardware: Floyd Rose tremolo
Special: Shark inlay in fingerboard. 6 string guitar build by Huub Boel ( Holland) in cooperation with Marcel Coenen.
Scalelength: 647.7 mm


I played the same one at his house a few weeks ago ( he's my guitar teacher for those who didn't know) and I immediately liked it. It sounds great, and the playability is just incredible. It is arguably the best guitar you can buy under 1000 euros. It easily equals ( if not exceeds) my Ibanez, although I'm still keeping that one. :) Receiving it from Marcel personally made it extra special of course. :)
So, here it is, along with my other guitars:

http://rwestdijk.photosite.com/~photos/tn/924_1024.ts1104530470000.jpg


:)

[Stratwizard]

Love the color :cool:

[Reemster]

The colour is actually a bit darker than it seems on the picture. Here's a picture with Marcel holding the same guitar and it shows its actual colour :)


http://myspace-745.vo.llnwd.net/00484/54/79/484869745_m.jpg

[Stratwizard]

You've got a nice JEM too... ;)

[Erc]

^ "Advanced Techniques" - Creative Rock bk 2. :) He did a theory one?

Theres plenty of theory in it, just nothing too deep.



Yea I think, but don't quote me on it. If I read the guthrie forums correctly in the thread discussing the books, then there is a more theory based one, but I could be wrong.

[Freepower]

Then get your lazy ass off the UG and start practising! :p:

Lol, if i didnt have UG to give me these influences i would suck even more!

And i've been practicing ****LOADS, my wrists a bit better so its been a little lane stuff legato-wise and a LOT of really damn loud picking for that chunky PG tone. I want to sound like Lane using a 5mm pick. :p:

I think i've done a solid two hours today on just alt picking, let alone the RGT diploma and Trinity Guildhall Music theory... And then to brighton on Wednesday... *busy busy*

I'll getcha guys a guthrie autograph if i see him. :)

[pavan]

rascals with so much free time
I wish I had nothing to do, no responsiblities, no obligations, no work.........

[Freepower]

^ lol, you think i dont? These are my "holidays"...

[apocalypse13]

I don't have anything to do

:headbang:

[NevermorePsalm]

I miss my guitar. It be two feet away, and I'm too lazy to grab it.

[splice]

I miss my guitar. It be two feet away, and I'm too lazy to grab it.

yea me too i broke a string on my stratocaster and im too lazy to go get my jackson :(

[TheUltimateSin]

Pff. Lazy bitches. I'm playing my guitar and UGing at the same time. What now, foo!

[apocalypse13]

I do it all the time, nukkah

[canadianshred]

I have responsibilities, I just don't do them

[priest.fan.]

Pff. Lazy bitches. I'm playing my guitar and UGing at the same time. What now, foo!

me too.

Acoustic guitar.

I find myself using my acoustic more and more often >_>

[Night_Lights]

resi got the blues http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXdnjritCsc&search=funny%20guitar


:haha is resi asian?

[splice]

ive got my laptop right next to my amp in my guitar room..so i can ug and play my electrics at the same time... in my 150 square feet of heaven

[apocalypse13]

Zomg

I just came up with this riff.

It's like the coolest riff I've ever written.

[priest.fan.]

I like it

a lot

post the whole thing soon

or I'll sneak in your window and eat your guitar

/a poem written by priest fan

[TheUltimateSin]

ive got my laptop right next to my amp in my guitar room..so i can ug and play my electrics at the same time... in my 150 square feet of heaven

My computer, guitar+accessories, a minifridge, my tv+xbox/ps2, a recliner, and a rather large but obsolete stereo system. All located within a 9ft x 12ft 5in room and not far from each other. Yeah...my room is a bit crammed right now :o

[Beckerism]

I bring you the Miniboss-Wizards and Warriors song.

Originally tabbed by Golbez on TablEdit, and directly copied to PT by moi. :)

http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D081C31E0339B11C

[apocalypse13]

I like it

a lot

post the whole thing soon

or I'll sneak in your window and eat your guitar

/a poem written by priest fan
Thanks, I'll post it when and if I get closure. It's a bitch to get ot perfectly how I want it.

[TheUltimateSin]

So these two muffins are cooking in the oven. One muffin turns to the other one and says "Holy shit it's hot in here!". The other muffin turns and exclaims "Holy shit, a talking muffin!"

[Freepower]

Whats the only thing more fun than throwing babies off a cliff? :confused:



Catching them with a pitchfork! :haha

[Erc]

baby jokes arn't funny =(

I have a nephew and neice!!

[Stratwizard]

Here's some info on picking techniques, if anyone's interested:

http://www.tuckandpatti.com/pick-finger_tech.html

[Scorzerci]

For anyone that's interested, when I was in America the last week I got a Taylor 414ce:)

[Stratwizard]

^Pic?

[Scorzerci]

One sec.

[Scorzerci]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/scorzerci/IMGP0600.jpg
the bod
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/scorzerci/IMGP0602.jpg
The neck
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/scorzerci/IMGP0603.jpg
The headstock
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/scorzerci/IMGP0604.jpg
the controls
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/scorzerci/IMGP0605.jpg
the cutaway
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/scorzerci/IMGP0606.jpg
the Grain (ovangkol back)
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/scorzerci/IMGP0607.jpg
the grain again

[Beckerism]

OMFG BBQ!

http://i3.tinypic.com/w9d26a.gif

[Freepower]

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

:down: :down: :down:

[GibsonSGSupreme]

beckerism i luv u for that tab man. and reemster i luv your new geetar man. i wish u gots a 7 string tho.

[Stratwizard]

[IMG]/IMG]

Mhmm... I love the color of the wood. Very sexy!

[Scorzerci]

why thank you:)

[Erc]

Yea, that thing looks good.

[TheUltimateSin]

Scorzerci, that is one hellabeautiful instrument :)

[Scorzerci]

:)

[Beckerism]

beckerism i luv u for that tab man. and reemster i luv your new geetar man. i wish u gots a 7 string tho.

:p: EotB or the Wizards one?

[slash_620]

Here's some info on picking techniques, if anyone's interested:

http://www.tuckandpatti.com/pick-finger_tech.html

Bookmarked, thanks.

[Stratwizard]

^Good for you. There's definately some great info on the different wrist motions and such. :cheers:

[slash_620]

^Good for you. There's definately some great info on the different wrist motions and such. :cheers:

Yeh, though i'm having a bit of trouble understanding it when there's no pictures, what's the suspended fist technique?

[Freepower]

Im guessing its where you "suspend" a loose "fist". :)

[slash_620]

Im guessing its where you "suspend" a loose "fist". :)

So no part of your arm/hand touches the guitar?

[Freepower]

I'll read it again...

1.1.4 Standard style, variation 1: Suspended fist technique exhibited by Joe Pass, Barney Kessel and many older players who at some point probably had to play hard in order to get volume out of their guitars: This is the standard style, but the remaining fingers are closed into a loose or tight fist, eliminating any contact between the hand and the guitar other than through the pick.

Whats confusing about that?

"eliminating any contact between the hand and the guitar other than through the pick."

[Dreadnought]

I'll read it again...

1.1.4 Standard style, variation 1: Suspended fist technique exhibited by Joe Pass, Barney Kessel and many older players who at some point probably had to play hard in order to get volume out of their guitars: This is the standard style, but the remaining fingers are closed into a loose or tight fist, eliminating any contact between the hand and the guitar other than through the pick.

Whats confusing about that?

"eliminating any contact between the hand and the guitar other than through the pick."

Ew :o

I always have my wrist/forearm/pinky on the guitar at all times :p:

[TheUltimateSin]

^I'm always finding myself with my hand resting on the bridge when I'm playing. I guess it's a bad habit :o:

[Scorzerci]

^same

[Erc]

It is a bad habit....STOP!!

[apocalypse13]

Rusty Cooley and Fareri both use translation, yet it says that it stops around 12 nps.

??

[Erc]

^ No, tension begins around 12 or 13nps. Which can obviously be seen.

[slash_620]

I'll read it again...

1.1.4 Standard style, variation 1: Suspended fist technique exhibited by Joe Pass, Barney Kessel and many older players who at some point probably had to play hard in order to get volume out of their guitars: This is the standard style, but the remaining fingers are closed into a loose or tight fist, eliminating any contact between the hand and the guitar other than through the pick.

Whats confusing about that?

"eliminating any contact between the hand and the guitar other than through the pick."

Sorry, i'm just very tired atm.

:o

Trying not to sound like a skip reading idiot, could anyone explain the George Benson technique differently? Everytime i try, it just looks fundamentaly wrong.

1.1.8 George Benson's picking style: When I finally got to see George Benson play live in the mid-70s, I was advanced enough myself to instantly realize that he had solved the picking problem. He had somehow resolved the inherent conflict between accuracy and feel, regardless of speed. Unlike every other player I had seen (or have seen since), his technique fully supported him. I observed and dissected his technique very carefully, then applied it to normal humans:

For a normal human, the pick is held between the tip of the thumb and the flat, or pad, of the index finger; the middle finger can also rest next to the index finger. The first joint of the thumb must be locked in fully open position, and the first and second joints of the index finger must be arched and locked. (George's thumb bends back so much at his first joint that he can grip between the flat of his thumb and the flat of his index finger, but this is rare. The exact point where the pick makes contact in the range between the tip and the pad of the thumb varies from hand to hand.) This causes the pick to be rotated about 90 degrees counterclockwise from the standard style, viewing the guitar as described above. Depending on the stance (see below), the other fingers can be splayed out over the fingerboard or curled up toward the palm.

[apocalypse13]

^ No, tension begins around 12 or 13nps. Which can obviously be seen.
They look pretty loose when they're ripping it up. But what about Dave Martone? He fukin slays, but he looks uber-not-tense.

[PooKoo]

i dunno if im tense or not, i use kinda wrist and elbow or arm or whatever, i dunno, ive never really been able to tell.but ive always worked to not be tense.

[slash_620]

i'm confused as to the difference between rotational and translation,

what style is this (scarily good for one year) kid using?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1146117258059145670&q=paul+gilbert&pl=true

[Erc]

^x3 Hardly.

Rusty http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6504813154525836790&q=rusty+cooley&pl=true (around 1:20 is where you can see the tension the easiesT)

Lane http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4028467210125694370&q=Shawn+Lane&pl=true

Compare. Lane very little tension, rusty comparatively lots of tension. Fareri has a ton too. I'm not very familiar with dave.

[slash_620]

^x3 Hardly.

Rusty http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6504813154525836790&q=rusty+cooley&pl=true (around 1:20 is where you can see the tension the easiesT)

Lane http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4028467210125694370&q=Shawn+Lane&pl=true

Compare. Lane very little tension, rusty comparatively lots of tension. Fareri has a ton too. I'm not very familiar with dave.

That kid wasn't impressive for a guy playing one year?

Man i'm crap.

That Cooley video was scary, but i can see the point about tension, he was using tanslation right?

[Erc]

Nonono, see I was writing that post before you and uh pookoo posted, and I tried to save myself and edit and put ^(x3) meaning 3 posts up to apoc.

Sorry for the confusion ^_^.

He is quite good for one year btw.

And yea rusty was using translation, that kid looked to be using oscillation to me (MAB style[rooted]) but don't quote me on it.

[PooKoo]

ok i probably missed like 10 posts on it (im sorry), but whats translation?

btw, off topic, i saw a classical guitar quartet cover a bunch of classical songs today, amazing stuff. It's incredible how they get the guitar to sound like a piano, violin, or anything else so easily.

[apocalypse13]

omg I envy Rusty's sweeping

He can sequence sweeping arps like no one I've ever seen before.

That ending sweeping sequence = ZOMG

Yeah I see what you mean now. But at least he can control it.


Well, there is a video of Dave like 6:55 into Guitars Suck 1, but it had been a while since I saw it, and I see he's more of a tapping guy.

[PooKoo]

Ok now that i have a perfect amp picked out, its time to work on what might be becoming a more pressing issue.

New guitar.

Lately my faithful old rg has been turning to ****. Strings snap easier, the neck is a little messed up, some frets are dying, chips all over it, the electronics fail a lot (or did, hasnt for a while), it wont stay in tune, even when locked, the bridge is going to ****, etc etc.

Anyways, since many of you have ****ing sick guitars, what do you think would be the best, most well rounded shred guitar? I know many will say vigier, others will say jem, whatever, just tell me the pros and cons of it. I want something with a fast neck, hopefully a floyd rose, but its not a big thing or anything, nice pickups, stays in tune, please, and shape, size, color, and price dont matter, though the cheaper the better.

I know most of you will ignore this post, but please.

[mr_clapton]

i am in a similar situation to you pookoo and i have decided that since price isnt too much of a worry for me that i am going to build my own shredtastic guitar next, like i am going to get which pup i want (dimarzio virtual PAF for neck and bridge) whack a nice new ibanez floyd rose on it and get a wonderful fast maple neck and fretboard....i have no idea where i am going to find the right body for this though.....

but thats beside the point maybe this could be an option for you?

[GibsonSGSupreme]

if price don matter pookoo, i would get conklin to make me the perfect guitar for me. altho they are very expensive, they are well worth the price (ive played one and it was better then any Ibanez (exept for maybe the 7 string JEM w/ a fret and action jobby) and wasted any vigier, jackson, or any other guitar u can think of. if price is not an issue ide vouch for a conklin.

[PooKoo]

damn, well, mr clapton, ive thought of that for a while, dunno if i could do it or not. I can imagine myself getting 99 percent done and ****ing up.

Also, conklins sound cool, though id need to play a guitar before i buy it, its just habit. Also, price only doesnt matter because right now i have no money. Thanks though, both are good ideas.

[mr_clapton]

yeah i know i dont have the skills to build one myslef but i have a friend whos dad was in a band that got signed in the 60s and he can wire pups and do all that kind of stuff so i figure just get him to do most of the work, so maybe if you knew someone who could help you and make sure you dont **** up?

[PooKoo]

yeah, i bet my mom cuold help, just cause shes smart.

[apocalypse13]

I want a Conklin, so bad.

i haven't played one but the options are focking ridiculous.

I'm about 80% sure that the next guitar I buy is gonna be the Shechter C-7 Hellraiser (Jeff Loomis). Nevermorepsalm showed it to me, and I want a 7 string. Plus, it's only 1000 bucks.

[priest.fan.]

yeah... "only" :haha

[TheUltimateSin]

I want a Conklin, so bad.

i haven't played one but the options are focking ridiculous.

I'm about 80% sure that the next guitar I buy is gonna be the Shechter C-7 Hellraiser (Jeff Loomis). Nevermorepsalm showed it to me, and I want a 7 string. Plus, it's only 1000 bucks.

Only $1000? How about you just slip me a couple $1000 too. I have a few purchases I'd like to make.

[Erc]

Speaking of guitars...

I want a hollowbody. Badly. Looked in a sweetwater magazine, everysingle one I saw was over $2000. Except a peavey. But peavey guitars suck (not amazingly fond of their amps either!)

A C-7 hellraiser would be cool, I've always wanted a 7string. Could play amon amarth and morbid angel stuff without having to drop. And nevermore stuff!

[priest.fan.]

check out the ibanez artcore series, its supposed to be good for the price.

[HammerForce]

Ye, I thought the artcore series were pretty good as well.
Pookoo you should check out the Ibanez Rg8270 j custom with flame top. I think thats pretty much the best guitar I've ever played. It's gorgeous as well. Although it may be a bit over your (anyones) price range. I think the chepest ive seen on in the UK for is about £1400 so :(

[Erc]

Thanks for the suggestion, I'm gonna try to go to a shop sometime soon and try one. Its a shame that I'm probably gonna have to go to 5 or 6 different music stores to find one.

I hate south carolina =(

[flamencogod]

Im curious... what are you guys future plans? do you want a career in music?
I personally don't, music and playing guitar will always be my hobby but I'll go to lawschool next year so that doesn't have anything to do with music...

[Reemster]

Im curious... what are you guys future plans? do you want a career in music?
I personally don't, music and playing guitar will always be my hobby but I'll go to lawschool next year so that doesn't have anything to do with music...


I'd love to have a career in music, and a part of me will always keep trying to make that happen. However, I'm still studying for my Master's degree, so time is a problem.. I'll finish my education first, and see what will happen after that :)

[flamencogod]

^^ what university are you in? I'm planning Tilburg, that would be 30 minutes by bus

[Reemster]

^ University of Amsterdam. It was either that, or Utrecht. ( Not that my study isn't found anywhere else; this was more practical) Since I grew up in Utrecht I decided it was time for a change of scenery, so Amsterdam it was going to be :) Tilburg is cool place though, lots of opportunities to score a beer or two :p:

[ILoveHarmonics]

^studying at the UvA aswell. A small world it is. :p:

[Stratwizard]

How the hell there are so many people from Holland here? :confused:

[flamencogod]

a beer or two... well might be a bit more... Tilburg also has 013... ( I've got a gig there)

[Resiliance]

Im curious... what are you guys future plans? do you want a career in music?
I personally don't, music and playing guitar will always be my hobby but I'll go to lawschool next year so that doesn't have anything to do with music...

www.jazzstudio.be

pompidom

[Scorzerci]

What I want to do is take some degree in business and then do a few years of a musical college and then basically have business as my backup plan.

[slash_620]

I'm no where near motivated or good enough to get a career in music.

I'm a cricket nut so anything to do with that (maybe even playing professionaly) would be my dream job. I'll probably end up being an accountant or osme office job like that.


Ahhhh crap, i just downloaded a Joe Satriani discography and now it's diss apeared, crap.

[apocalypse13]

yeah... "only" :haha
Only $1000? How about you just slip me a couple $1000 too. I have a few purchases I'd like to make.
wtf

1000 isnt too bad...

A nice 7 string I would expect to be over 1000 bucks, let alone a signature model.



Edit: teh career thing.

I'm taking a class for CAD (Computer Assisted Drafting) at a tech school for the next two years. Then in college probably the same thing. It's basically designing 3D stuff using computers, great for architecture or software designing. What I hope to get into is the creation of video games. (Big Bucks nukkahs)

I hope to one day be good enought to catch the eye of a scout or something however. Although it's just hopes, it sure would be cool. Just make extra money on the side with small time records if nothing else.

[TheUltimateSin]

wtf

1000 isnt too bad...

A nice 7 string I would expect to be over 1000 bucks, let alone a signature model.

I know. I was just giving you shit. :p:

[pavan]

I want to be a professional musician, although it will take me ages to get to that level.
I'm doing engineering, I'll decide once its done.

[Axegrinder#9]

well I'm at a pretty good place, with my future plans. As far as music goes, I never really intended to make it as a musician, I just want to explore music as much as possible as well as the depth of guitar playing... if I do make money as musician or even really get into it, it'll be more accidental than intentional... I just like jamming up with random people (who can "play" of course) and see what goes... I'm currently heavily involved in college academics and am a declared Computer Science major, which has always been another area of interest... let's see where things go...

[apocalypse13]

I know. I was just giving you shit. :p:
:(

[TheUltimateSin]

^I do know exactly what you mean though. Remember a while back when I was talking about buying a new guitar with a whammy? I found one: a Snow White Jackson RR1 with black pinstripe around the edge and mother-of-pearl shark fin fret inlays, Floyd Rose Original Double-Locking 2-Point Tremolo. The price? $2100 without tax. I have a lot of saving to do....

[apocalypse13]

Yeah fo sho.

Jeff Loomis 7 String Through Body Stringed Guitar = $1,000 = Sex

[TheUltimateSin]

And aren't 7-string models generally more expensive than their 6-stringed counterparts?

[Matt_Malmsteen]

Im curious... what are you guys future plans? do you want a career in music?
I personally don't, music and playing guitar will always be my hobby but I'll go to lawschool next year so that doesn't have anything to do with music...

Good question.... I'm personally just ending my first year of college....so I'm looking at uni, might go to Cambridge to do PPP (Psychology, Philosophy and Physio).

In terms of music, I would love to do that kinda thing but I'm nowhere near good enough and.......yeah....I'm what 18 in..4 months and I've only been playing two years so I'm nowhere near good enough basically, plus age goes against me.

[flamencogod]

well I guess shredders have pretty high education...

[PooKoo]

Im in my freshman year of highschool!

15 tomorrow actually, itll mark my second year of playing guitar.

[Matt_Malmsteen]

Why do you guess shredders have high education?

And omg pookoo you're so young, I thought you looked older in your vids? :eek:

[flamencogod]

well... from what I read here (lawschool, computer stuff, Psychology, Philosophy and Physio) they seem to have

[PooKoo]

Why do you guess shredders have high education?

And omg pookoo you're so young, I thought you looked older in your vids? :eek:

eh, its prolly the hair.