** The Random Shred Chat Thread **

[Beckerism]

what are some good marty songs that are solos?

http://rapidshare.de/files/1272702/guitar_lesson_-_yngwie_malmsteen_-_scales.mpg.html
what yngwie song is that please help me out:D ^

[metallikatt]

Originally posted by Night_Lights
www.luismoreno.com check this guy out also has lessons, powertabs etc


ok, here a noob question, how do i get my NPS or BPM? i know i have to use a metronome, but what speciafically do i do well play 16th notes at any bpm (which is 4 notes per beat) lets say you play 16th notes at 120 bpm the actual equation you can use is 120 times 4 divided by 60 and you get nps so bpm x 4/60=nps :) to make it easy just divide your bpm by 15 and you get notes per second if your playing 16th notes.. i hope that wasnt too confusing :p:

[Freepower]

Can someone please check my maths on this one...

135bpm/60

64ths - 16notes per beat - hence 36nps?

I just calculated hands by bumblefoot and im still in shock, im not trusting myself to make that calculation right, could you check it out?

[metallikatt]

O_O woah it IS 36nps. thats fast

[Freepower]

****.

just, ****.

*says the f word for a while more*

[Resiliance]

Once again, it is proven that Ron Thal owns :p:

(why the hell do you call him bumblefoot? That's his band name :p: )

[godofshred]

that is amazing...36nps...bloody hell

[Freepower]

Lol, sadly, when i doublechecked, i found that actually, he was only playing 12 notes to the beat.

Darn, only 27nps! But so melodic, too.

Still, that beats everything but holdsworth and satch on the list.

[The UG Squirrel]

hey guys, i was wondering if you can slow down the midi files that come with the powertabs? it would be great if you could help

[bangoodcharlote]

^ Change the tempo.

[The UG Squirrel]

how? im new to the powertab editor

[bangoodcharlote]

You click the little quarter note and set it for whatever tempo you desire. Use the help feature if you need to.

[The UG Squirrel]

thanks man

[Dreadnought]

Originally posted by bangoodcharlote
You click the little quarter note and set it for whatever tempo you desire. Use the help feature if you need to.

That damn help feature said nothing about pickup notes :angry:

[neox the cow]

I went and saw Vai last night. Holy Shit. They went on together a little bit too much, its not that they werent talented just at times they overdid it some. All of those men can freaking play like no other.


And I met Eric Sardinas, that dude was something completely new to me and I couldn't resist shaking his hand.

I'd go on but I'm now deaf slightly and have a headache still from last night. :)

[The UG Squirrel]

whats the best shred concert that youve been to?

[GuitarMoFo23]

Steve Vai hands down.

[Dreadnought]

Satriani

[spee]

steve vai, then again he is the only shred concert i've been to.:D

[Freepower]

i've been to none!

:finger:

But i have been to feeder, who pwn even cooley on the FUN factor. Especially when a hot little brunette thing is jumping directly in front of you.

[Axegrinder#9]

oh man can't wait for the Satch gig on the 15th of May!!

[SilentDeftone]

Originally posted by The UG Squirrel
whats the best shred concert that youve been to? I'd say Vai, nothing against Satch but I enjoyed Vai more. Partially due to the fact that I could recognize almost every tune, I couldn't at the Satch concert. Also because I went with a fabulous friend? she actually liked the music and may become a shred-head. :p:

Satch had a longer set though, and I liked the venue that I saw Satch in better.

Both are amazing, but Vai is also a better showman.

-SD :dance:

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Im trying to improve my Sweep Picking, so could you guys reccomend me some websites that have Tips/Lessons on Sweep Picking? preferably Videos not MP3's, but either works..

Ive already checked and am using Chops from hell, and its helping, but can you guys reccomend me some more websites?

Thanks :cheers:

[frog_friend]

^^^ i don't know if this will help but this site (http://insaneguitar.com/mc/sweeping.html) is pretty good. Im working on my sweeps to, and thats what im using. Hope i helped a little

[GuitarMoFo23]

My guitar teacher has a site www.bill-peck.com and there is a tabs section with a few things on sweeping. They also have mp3s to go with it. Sorry there is no video.

[Master Of Shred]

is bill peck your teacher ?

[pavan]

Originally posted by Axegrinder#9
oh man can't wait for the Satch gig on the 15th of May!!

he's coming here on the 17th.

great isnt it? i mean after all the bryan adams, enriques who came here.

[Master Of Shred]

ey I like bryan adams :mad: I like his chord progressions :peace:

[GuitarMoFo23]

Master Of Shred yes Bill Peck is my guitar teacher teacher.

[Master Of Shred]

NICE

[jasonbecker]

^lol, oh yeah he's the guy who abuses tapping.

[Master Of Shred]

and hates his whammy

[GuitarMoFo23]

^Bill hate his whammy?

[public property]

I saw one of the videos of the soundcheck and he plays some very sloppy vai licks.

[Blackened-World]

welcome back MOS. how bout that recording.

[GuitarMoFo23]

Yeah he was just messing around with the creed guy. You cant say he hates the whammy just from a sound check.

[spee]

Originally posted by Blackened-World
welcome back MOS. how bout that recording.

Not this again, its been a whole week of SILENCE, let it continue...:rolleyes:

About time!

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Well i dont know if this has been done before, but im not gona go reading this whole thread to see if it has..

Make your list of your Ten fav Shred Records of all Time
(No order for me)

1. Steve Vai- Alien Love Secrets
2. Steve Vai- Alive In An Ultra World
3. Joe Satriani- Surfing with the Alien
4. Joe Satriani- The Extremist
5. Jason Becker- Perpetual Burn
6. Cacophony- Speed Metal Symphony
7. Marty Friedman- Dragon's Kiss
8. Joe Stump- Night of the Living Shred
9. Joe Stump- Supersonic Shred Machine
10. Racer X- Technical Difficulties

:cheers:

[spee]

Originally posted by WyldeGibsonPlyr
Well i dont know if this has been done before, but im not gona go reading this whole thread to see if it has..

Make your list of your Ten fav Shred Records of all Time
(No order for me)

1. Steve Vai- Alien Love Secrets
2. Steve Vai- Alive In An Ultra World
3. Joe Satriani- Surfing with the Alien
4. Joe Satriani- The Extremist
5. Jason Becker- Perpetual Burn
6. Cacophony- Speed Metal Symphony
7. Marty Friedman- Dragon's Kiss
8. Joe Stump- Night of the Living Shred
9. Joe Stump- Supersonic Shred Machine
10. Racer X- Technical Difficulties

:cheers:

That if a mighty fine list, you have there, i have heard most of the songs off of those albums (limewire) but cant find a single one other than steve vai, and joe satriani albums. Nice to see Joe Stump getting some recognition also.:cheers:

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

^Indeed, Joe is amazing

Def. one of my Favorite Shredders

[The UG Squirrel]

ive only heard "weapon of choice" which i downloaded from his website

what other songs should i download from www.joestump.com ?

[Master Of Shred]

'Demons Eye' and 'Night Of The Living Shred' , altough I like everything lol

[The UG Squirrel]

^^^ would demons eye by any chance be a cover of the deep purple song with the same name?

[The UG Squirrel]

guess not...hes also one of the only single coil shredders

EDIT: hes also head of the shred guitar section of berklee. what an awesome job

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
'Demons Eye' and 'Night Of The Living Shred' , altough I like everything lol

Those are two of my favorite Tracks by him

Def. worth checking out

[jasonbecker]

1. Perpetual Burn-Jason Becker
2. The Powers of Ten-Shawn Lane
3. Real Illusions: Reflections-Steve Vai
4. Passion and Warfare-Steve Vai
5. Speed Metal Symphony-Cacophony
6. Street Lethal-Racer X
7. Technical Diffuculties-Racer X
8. Freak Guitar-Mattias La Eklundh
9. Alien Love Secrets-Steve Vai
10. Surfing with The Alien-Joe Satriani

[TheI7ark]

1. Perpetual Burn - Jason Becker
2. Speed Metal Symphony - Cacophony
3. Passion and Warrfare - Steve Vai
4. Surfing with the Alien - Joe Satriani
5. Rising Force - Yngwie Malmsteen
6. The Powers of Ten - Shawn Lane
7. Technical Difficulties - Racer X
8. Street Lethal - Racer X
9. Real Illusions: Reflections - Steve Vai
10. Mind's Eye - Vinnie Moore

[Master Of Shred]

1. Vinnie Moore - Minds Eye
2. Steve Vai - Real Illusions
3. JP - Suspended Animation
4. Dream Theater - Images And Words
5. Stratovarius - Episode
6. Dream Theater - Scenes
7. Jason Becker - Perpetual Burn
8. Vinnie Moore - Time Odyssey
9. Joe Stump - Shredology
10.Stratovarius - Visions

[SnowballofDoom]

1. Superheroes- Racer X
2. Technical Difficulties- Racer X
3. King of Clubs- Paul Gilbert
4. Anthology- Steve Vai
5. The Extremist- Joe Satriani
6. Mr Big- Greatest Hits
7. Odyssey- Yngwie Malmsteen
8. Gilbert Hotel- Paul Gilbert
9. Joe Satriani- Crystal Planet
10. Vai, Satch, Malmsteen- G3 Rockin the Free World

[godofshred]

ah...a fellow lover of gilberts work! ;)

im lookin at a racer x album...any suggestions which to get?

[SnowballofDoom]

Originally posted by godofshred
ah...a fellow lover of gilberts work! ;)

im lookin at a racer x album...any suggestions which to get?

:cheers:

Well, I don't know if you have any Racer X cd's at the moment, but the one I bought first was Technical Difficulties. It has great riffs, and shred of course, but its very diverse. It goes from 17th moon, which has a real metal style riff, to BRO, which is Pauls rendition of Bach (BRO=Bach Rip Off). Then I bought Superheroes, and listened to it relentlessly for months. Its my favorite Racer X cd....ever...So I'd start w/ those two, then get into the older stuff, Extreme Volume, Second Heat etc... Before you know it, you'll have them all.

BTW, Racer X's most recent studio cd, Getting Heavier, is a good one too. But if you like Racer X only for Pauls solos, you might not like it as Paul backs off from the crazy stuff a little bit. (Still worth buying though)

[The UG Squirrel]

whos got powers of ten here?

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

You mean, like who owns it?

I do

[The UG Squirrel]

whats it like? apparently its really good and out of print

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Its amazing!

One of the greatest Shred albums ever recorded most def.

Shows Shawn's Great ability to play the Guitar..

It may be out of print, but you can find it used..i suggest you look into buying it

[jasonbecker]

^Where did you find it??!!!

I know amazon has it, but it's pretty expensive.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Used record store in Maple Grove,MN :p:

I was amazed that someone would actually WANT to sell it, but they had it..

A bit marked up, but nothing a little disk cleaner cant fix..

Amazon has a few used copies, and from what i herd its preety damn safe to purchase used fom Amazon

[The UG Squirrel]

its 44 us on amazon i think

that makes it 60 AUSTRALIAN!

AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Wow, thats megaexpensive


But IMO, its worth it

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

So where do you all get your Shred Tabs?

As today i was looking for the tab for The Animal by Steve Vai, right here on UG..i noticed they dont really have it..

So where do you guys get your Shred Tabs?

[SnowballofDoom]

I usually search using tabrobot.com. It doesn't have tabs, but it tells you the sites to get what you search for. If I don't find what I'm looking for there, then I google it, if I don't find anything there, then I have to do things the ol' fashioned way...

[metallikatt]

www.911tabs.com

[spee]

as far as shred goes, i would much rather use power tab editor. And i get those files from www.powertabs.com :cheers:

[The UG Squirrel]

yeah powertabs are the way to go

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

^Duude, i dont seee any Steve Vai on there

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by WyldeGibsonPlyr
^Duude, i dont seee any Steve Vai on there

http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=artist,16

pardon me? anyways, anyone know how to change the metronome on powertab? (The bps part) I copy pasted a part of serrana into a blank page, and the metronome should be 140, but in the new page its at something differnt, im guessing 90ish, so the song is played much slower, and if i change it to 32th notes instead of 16th, they are way to fast.

Under --->

Midi

clicked "Setup"

went under "Metronome Settings"

and i dont see it there. please help its killing me. :p:

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

^Oh, Where did you find that? i looked and i didnt find it, and the page was Green, not white

[jasonbecker]

To: Beckerism

[vaishredder]

Vai kicks ass. My favourite.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Originally posted by vaishredder
Vai kicks ass. My favourite.

Lol, that was totally random..

But it tis the truth..Vai is the man

I recently learned parts of The Animal

Such a great tune:cheers:

[neox the cow]

I can't get it to sound right. *shrug*

[Mascot]

Hey, sorry if this has been asked before, but I don't have the time right now to read through 29 pages.

I just listened to Becker's version of 5th Caprice, and it's amazing. Unfortunatly, it sounds nothing like how I'm playing it. The tab in Guitar World has it as straight eigth ( or sixteenth ) notes. I forgot which it is.

However, Becker plays it in a very different way, much better way, IMO, but which way did Paganini play it? Because I learned it as straight notes without any rhythm.

Edit : I guess I listened to some other Becker song that someone named 5th Caprice. My bad. I got the correct version played straight through.

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by jasonbecker
To: Beckerism

I love you to death. I couldnt never figure this out. I guess its because, I never had any of the toolbars showing. I LOVE YOU!. :cheers:

:p:

edit: on a side note, working on the arpeggios of serrana 1 octave lower on the acoustic. (at slower speeds of course)

:p:

[The UG Squirrel]

i apologise if this has been done before, but which 2 shredders would you like to see in a guitar duel?

[Stratwizard]

Francesco Fareri and Allan Holdsworth.

or...

Yngwie Malmsteen and Jason Becker

[public property]

because farerreri and yngwie would get owned...heh

[Freepower]

Fareri and cooley for the scary chops.

Vai and satch for good natured exchange of fantastic music with an individual style.

[Axegrinder#9]

hahah Alexi Laiho and John Petrucci...

I got my money on Laiho, after 2 mins of Petrucci hauling his arse, he's guna put him in a chokehold ;)

[jasonbecker]

Originally posted by Mascot
Hey, sorry if this has been asked before, but I don't have the time right now to read through 29 pages.

I just listened to Becker's version of 5th Caprice, and it's amazing. Unfortunatly, it sounds nothing like how I'm playing it. The tab in Guitar World has it as straight eigth ( or sixteenth ) notes. I forgot which it is.

However, Becker plays it in a very different way, much better way, IMO, but which way did Paganini play it? Because I learned it as straight notes without any rhythm.

Edit : I guess I listened to some other Becker song that someone named 5th Caprice. My bad. I got the correct version played straight through.

Did you get the acoustic version of the 24th caprice? Anyway, the version by Yngwie in Guitar World is wrong, it's like an octave lower than it should be lol, the real one by Becker is correct. How do I know? I have the CD of all 24 on violin.

[Resiliance]

Shawn Lane and Scott Henderson.




Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Alexi Laiho(hes not a shredder though really) Vs. John Petrucci
..fucking little punk, dissing Dream Theater

Satch vs Vai
..the teacher vs the student

Joe Stump vs Yngwie Malmsteen
..Malmsteen rip off vs Malmsteen

(the only reason i say "Malmsteen rip off" is cuz he looks allot like him to some extent, plays a Strat(ESP), and uses the Same pickups..yeah you get the idea...I love Joes Music though, hate Yngwie's)

[vaishredder]

Vai vs. ..................Gilbert maybe? or Satch

[spee]

i would like to see Becker and Friedman or Becker and Petrucci since there are threads on who is better. Those would be realy amazing duels.

[SnowballofDoom]

Paul Gilbert vs. Bruce Bouillet


Bruce who, you say? In the 80s (After Street Lethal but before Paul quit for Mr. Big) Bruce was Racer X's second guitarist. They were very well matched, in terms of improv and speed, so thats my dream shred duel. Either that or..

John Petrucci vs. Steve Vai

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

So, what have you all been listening to lately?

I've been listening to my mix I made, called "Shred-Bar Blues"

Heres the tack listing-

1.Joe Stump- Night of the Living Shred
2.Joe Stump- Demon's Eye
3.Steve Vai- The Animal
4.Steve Vai- Erotic Nightmares
5.Steve Vai- Giant Balls of Gold
6.Steve Vai- Bad Horsie
7.Steve Vai-Building the Church
8.Joe Satriani- Surfing with the Alien
9.Joe Satriani- Satch Boogie
10.Joe Satriani- Ice 9
11.Joe Satriani- Summer Song
12.Joe Satriani- The Extremist
13.Joe Satriani- The Mystical Potato Head Groove Thing
14.SRV- The Sky is Crying
15.SRV- Cold Shot
16.SRV- Texas Flood
17.Hendrix- Little Wing
18.Hendrix- The Wind Cries Mary
19.Hendrix- Hey Joe

:cheers:

[pavan]

Vai and Satch in a duel

we'll see the myxolydians and the lydians and the dorians in full glory

[Beckerism]

Any tips for Friedman INSTRUMENTAL only songs? :cheers:

[The UG Squirrel]

i havent heard it, but im guessing the stuff off dragons kiss? i dont know

[airsoft]

Alexi VS the guy from Trivium. That would be a fair match I'd say.

[DirgeForTheSun]

herman li vs michael romeo

[jasonbecker]

To WyldeGibsonPlyr:

I've been mostly listening to my SIGNED Real Illusion's:Reflections CD :p:

[Resiliance]

Originally posted by Beckerism
Any tips for Friedman INSTRUMENTAL only songs? :cheers:

Farewell, The Yearning, Angel are some good ones.

[sixteen times]

Originally posted by pavan
Vai and Satch in a duel

we'll see the myxolydians and the lydians and the dorians in full glory


*Drools*

The ULTIMATE guitar duel! :D

[MankiiKing]

Random (stupid) question:
I downloaded a song titled Joe Satriani & Metallica - Instrumental from limewire. I didnt think it was really what it said but its a really good track. The tone is just like Satrianis and style's a lot like his too. Someone says a half of a word on the beginning of it (sounds a bit like russian :confused: ) then it goes to this pretty fast riff. The song ends to something that sound like harmonics (not sure). I think it could be a demo tape or something, cause the quality isnt too good. Does anyone know what this song could be? I'd make a tab of the beginning of it if I wouldnt suck at tabbing so much.

[The UG Squirrel]

seems interesting...its probably from around 83 or that time when satch was teaching kirk.

[godofshred]

Originally posted by pavan
Vai and Satch in a duel

we'll see the myxolydians and the lydians and the dorians in full glory

i wanna see that!!

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Originally posted by jasonbecker
To WyldeGibsonPlyr:

I've been mostly listening to my SIGNED Real Illusion's:Reflections CD :p:

:haha nice

:cheers:

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by Resiliance
Farewell, The Yearning, Angel are some good ones.

Thanks. I'm lookin them up right now. :cheers:

[pavan]

Originally posted by MankiiKing
Random (stupid) question:
I downloaded a song titled Joe Satriani & Metallica - Instrumental from limewire. I didnt think it was really what it said but its a really good track. The tone is just like Satrianis and style's a lot like his too. Someone says a half of a word on the beginning of it (sounds a bit like russian :confused: ) then it goes to this pretty fast riff. The song ends to something that sound like harmonics (not sure). I think it could be a demo tape or something, cause the quality isnt too good. Does anyone know what this song could be? I'd make a tab of the beginning of it if I wouldnt suck at tabbing so much.

its crystal planet and ceremony. i am not sure if metallica played on that.

i think the word is something like thu--roo--tha or something

[Four-Sticks]

http://www.purevolume.com/retardmatrix
heheh my first and only recording.
Go to the third track called "Death Session."
Prepare to want to turn off your speakers and track me down and kill me.
There's my friend on the vocals and drums, and me on guitar and "winding down" vocals. If you have a high enough pain threshold to withstand the song, I commend you.
It's basically just a very crappy snare drum rhythm and dissonant chords. If it weren't for the semi-fast acoustic guitar solo I wouldn't even post it.

Keep in mind, it's supposed to be a joke, so don't bash me too much(except if you want to bash my technique, feel free :))

EDIT:
BTW, I'm known as "Winston Churchill" on the site. And my friend "Minister of Scream" is actually a very good trumpet player, and therefore can hit some pretty high notes when he wants too(both vocally and trumpet-wise).

[vaishredder]

vai kicks ass

blah

[The UG Squirrel]

Originally posted by vaishredder
vai kicks ass

blah

nice way to increase post count ;)


anyone know angelos highest nps?

[MankiiKing]

Originally posted by pavan
its crystal planet and ceremony. i am not sure if metallica played on that.

i think the word is something like thu--roo--tha or something Yeah thats it. thanks :cheers:

[metallikatt]

Originally posted by The UG Squirrel
nice way to increase post count ;)


anyone know angelos highest nps? i think its 21 O_o

[Freepower]

i heard he said it was 16 himself. Then again, i may well be wrong. Whatever happened to vinnie beere? He was SOOOOO fast...like, cooley and fareris lovechild on crack...;)

[Cali_guitarplyr]

what exactly IS thread?

[Freepower]

i love people that are proud to be american, they tend not to realise that we brits invented english and like when our colonies remember how to speak it.

You mean, either, what is THIS thread, in which case, refer to the title.

If you dont, thread is very small string.

Are we clear?

[TheI7ark]

Honestly why are you proud to be american? I can't wait to get out of america.

This thread is where Shred-heads come to rant/rave/say stupid things.

[spee]

Originally posted by TheI7ark
Honestly why are you proud to be american? I can't wait to get out of america.

This thread is where Shred-heads come to rant/rave/say stupid things.

Come to Canada, we have the beer:cheers:

Anyways JasonBacker can you give a more detailed explanation of your meeting with Vai?

[Contraband]

Random Shred Chat: My teacher gave me a guitar workshop brochure and you meet a bunch of guitarists for different courses and different sums of money- some are 700 bucks some are 1000 bucks. It's for a week. Anyways, Satriani is going to be there. WOW, Satriani for a week would be amazing. But, Satriani costing 1000 bucks? Come on, make it freeee.....

[spee]

i am going there, but you live in toronto so that means session 1 and 2, you cant see Satch because he is in Vancouver and is doing session 3:mad: But thats ok there are other amazing guitarists going there. www.guitarworkshopplus.com

[The UG Squirrel]

does anyone know what the highest selling shred album is?

[metallikatt]

^^probably far beyond the sun or passion and warfare

[Axegrinder#9]

^ I think it's Surfing with the Alien and Rising Force was also nominated for a Grammy n stuff, so both of these I'd guess

[The UG Squirrel]

awesome! any 90's shred?

[Axegrinder#9]

hahaha shred? 90s? highest selling album? surely you jest good sir.

[The UG Squirrel]

^^^i had hopes :sad:

[TheI7ark]

^I'd say Passion and Warfare for the 90's. Didn't it come out in 1990? :confused:

[Axegrinder#9]

^ holy ****! forgive me oh gods of shred!!

[pavan]

i dont know about the highest selling album but vai sold the most no. of copies. i think 6 million copies of all his albums. i am not sure.

[vaishredder]

PAW sold over 1 million in one week probably around 2 or 3 now.

[vaishredder]

Dream Theater kicks ass.

[Stratwizard]

^****ing spammer! :p:

I think Passion And Warfare is the best selling. Not sure though. It went platinum in a week.

[shredfan]

What an ace thread for cynical post boosting... ;)

[shredfan]

Not that I'm guilty of that.
er- Vai kicks ass

:rolleyes:

[Freepower]

god, dont start that.

Anyway, do you guys plan on writing music? Do you work on technique to have more tools at your disposal or for something else? Do you plan to work on technique, then start writing, or just write with whatever chops you have?

There, answer those and get this thread back on course.

[shredfan]

^I wasn't being serious, those posts were more a commentary on what's happening in this thread.

A serious question though: I'm thinking of buying a seven string such as the RG7321 as a second guitar- do you have any recommendations? (I can spend around £300)

Thought I'd ask this in shred, because I don't want any suggestions from Nu-metal fans. ;)

[sheehan17]

hey vaishredder... you are gay so shut up.

[vaishredder]

how do you know:sad:

[TheI7ark]

Originally posted by sheehan17
hey vaishredder... you are gay so shut up.

For posting that you're just as spammy as he is so be silent.

I work at technique for a sense of accomplishment... Not for tools... It just comes out in my composing later anyways ;) :p:

[public property]

I practice so whatever I want to play I can play, unfortunately I write like a vai rip off. Vai kicks ass.
And that 6 million albums sold was back when the alien love secrets dvd was released, before firegarden was released.

[TheI7ark]

^ But who better to rip off then the man who defies Genre classification? :peace:

[public property]

That made me feel all warm an bubbly inside :D

[Stratwizard]

Originally posted by Freepower
god, dont start that.

Anyway, do you guys plan on writing music? Do you work on technique to have more tools at your disposal or for something else? Do you plan to work on technique, then start writing, or just write with whatever chops you have?

There, answer those and get this thread back on course.

I've been currently working on my technique, but it's gotten to that level that I can do pretty much everything I want to do.

[jasonbecker]

I write all my music.

[TheI7ark]

So I just got back from Guitar Center... and they had a Used JS1200, a used Yngwie strat. I was in heaven... But amazingly I'd take the JS1200 over the Yngwie strat or the JEM I played any day. Anybody else love that guitar? :eek:

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

^Amazing guitar, indeed. But i would def. take an Ibanez Radius 540 over it ANYDAY.

[Axegrinder#9]

hey any of you guys heard the blues/rock album that Vivian Campbell (Def Leppard/ex-Rainbow) has produced?

[GuitarMoFo23]

Yeah the Js series is amazing but I would take a Jem anyday...wait I have one. Hurray!

[communitychest]

Okay uhh Newbie here and i was just wondering what the heck shred is... Im 14 and have been playinf for almost a year but im feelin kinda oblivius... Blonde.....

[spee]

We just had a forum on this, search for it in this forum, kind of just had arguments, but generally it was just playing very, very fast.

[communitychest]

Sweet.. Thats awsome.

[Freepower]

lol, that depends. Some people just play fast, but make music that most people wouldnt listen to unless forced to.

Others use their guitar skills to make mind-bendingly awesome music.

Basically, just look around these forums, check out satriani, vai, jason becker, frank gambale, marty freidman and yngwie malmsteen.

That'll give you an idea of the flavours that shred has to offer! Good luck with your playing, since i came here the peer group has made me see so many things as as simple as they really are, not unattainable levels of skill.

[Leevai455]

Originally posted by kyle_afi
I had heard about Vai and Satch, but never heard their stuff, so I bought a G3 dvd. I really liked it a lot. I also saw speed lives and though "I'm gonna play like that". That was about 2 months ago. I have no idea who some of these shred artists you guys talk about are, because I'm new to shred. The main reason I like shred is because I know it is the genre that is guitar based and involves the most technique.

didnt you say in another thread that you have a recording of yourself playing altitudes? so in two months of playing shred, you can play becker? thats impressive. :rolleyes:

[Metallican]

I have been listening to alot of shred lately but i am not a very good player yet. Do any of u have any good suggestions for someone learning how to play fast? songs etc...?

[Leevai455]

the most generic shred youll hear is michael angelo. his songs are blindingly fast and every song revolves around his speed. the most tasteful shredders are vai, satch, paul gilbert, becker, and the like.

[Four-Sticks]

^I personally think that Angelo (technique wise) is the most insane out of all of the shredders. That fact that he can play two guitars at once should be enough to satisfy the crowd, but he can do so much more than that. Not only does he play two guitars at once, but he shreds two guitars at once. Plus, he can pretty much play the guitar in any position that's humanly possible.

Not to mention he can back off and restrain himself when necessary.

[The UG Squirrel]

^^^i dont think he could beat becker on one neck, though

[Leevai455]

vai would run circles around angelo. vai has the multiple neck concept mastered beyond angelos scope of comprehension. see "i know youre here"

[Freepower]

^indeed

[spiderman]

Originally posted by The UG Squirrel
^^^i dont think he could beat becker on one neck, though



....


u do realize jason becker has als. it wouldnt be hard to out play him...

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by spiderman
....


u do realize jason becker has als. it wouldnt be hard to out play him...

You do realize that he was talking about before becker got als. :cheers:

Anyways, My favorite angelo song is No Boundaries.

[godofshred]

same here..awsome song!

[Stratwizard]

I Do For You is my favourite song by Angelo. It's not complately based around his speed.

[jasonbecker]

I hate every thing about Angelo...not only does he have NO legato, but all his songs just sound like him soloing over a really bad backing track..*cough cough*No Boundaries*cough*

And yes, Becker could pwn Angelo in all ways IMO.

[bangoodcharlote]

Originally posted by jasonbecker
And yes, Becker could pwn Angelo in all ways IMO. Even now. :sad:

[The UG Squirrel]

ive heard freight train by nitro and i reckon that songs really awesome. the solo gets stuck in my head

[Four-Sticks]

I've never seen Vai with a guitar like Angelo's.
Any links or DVD recommendations that showcase Vai on the Double Guitar would be much appreciated.

[The UG Squirrel]

i saw a 2 second clip on this 80's metal dvd where he was playing it in whitesnake (3 neck)

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by jasonbecker
I hate every thing about Angelo...not only does he have NO legato, but all his songs just sound like him soloing over a really bad backing track..*cough cough*No Boundaries*cough*
[B]
And yes, Becker could pwn Angelo in all ways IMO.


Oh **** ya I agree on that.:cheers: Not named Beckerism for nothing.

I do like No Boundaries though. :p:



Originally posted by Stratwizard
I Do For You is my favourite song by Angelo. It's not complately based around his speed.

Im going to check that stuff out :D ^

[The UG Squirrel]

i heard the midi of "hands" and i wanna know...

what do you guys think of ron thal and bumblefoot?

[Freepower]

The guy seems both insanely gifted, and insanely musical - even at 27nps, that solo still has great melody and placement in the song - he aint shredding all the way through.

From what i know about ron, his music rocks, and hes a gifted individual. I like him very much.

[The UG Squirrel]

i think its ****ing amazing, i cant wait till i find an mp3 of it.

he seems really underrated

[Freepower]

lol, yeh, i've heard stories of him doing yngwie songs tapping the bassline with one hand and the lead with the other...

And he makes damn good music!

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Originally posted by The UG Squirrel

what do you guys think of ron thal and bumblefoot?

Awsome, i cant get enough of Ron's stuff.


I know Resi loves Ron Thal.

[Resiliance]

^Damn right!

[Ibanez_rawker]

what are some good sites to learn some exercises? (for shred) And I'm new to shred so don't give me chopsfromhell.com lol
thanx

[Ibanez_rawker]

what are some good sites to learn some exercises? (for shred) And I'm new to shred so don't give me chopsfromhell.com lol
thanx

[sixteen times]

Originally posted by Ibanez_rawker
what are some good sites to learn some exercises? (for shred) And I'm new to shred so don't give me chopsfromhell.com lol
thanx

Many of the guest lessons on that site are suitable for begginers to shred- even I can do some of them! :p:


:cheers:

[Freepower]

lol, i cant do any of them except...wait, never tried, just looked and thought, nah cant be arsed.

I have a new song up in Original Recordings, chromatic solo, but no whammy bar abuse, i promise. Nile meets...me...i guess. Listen, or not, but it'd be nice for you guys to take a look. Not as sloppy as usual either! :cheers:

[sixteen times]

Some pretty fast chromatics in there...


... but apart from that, nothing stood out to me. I would of loved a scortching melodic lead over the top, but who wouldn't? :p:


:cheers:

[Dreadnought]

Originally posted by sixteen times
Some pretty fast chromatics in there...


... but apart from that, nothing stood out to me. I would of loved a scortching melodic lead over the top, but who wouldn't? :p:


:cheers:

A diatonic lead over a chromatic wank?!?!

:eek:

:puke:

[Beckerism]

Small question:

When I first dled Mable's Fatal Fable, it said it was by Becker. Just yesterday, I was searching for Shawn Lane songs, and it said Mabel's Fatal Fable by Jason Becker and Shawn Lane. So was Lane a part of the production?

(google didnt help) :p:

[Dreadnought]

Er, don't think so.

[spee]

Originally posted by Beckerism
Small question:

When I first dled Mable's Fatal Fable, it said it was by Becker. Just yesterday, I was searching for Shawn Lane songs, and it said Mabel's Fatal Fable by Jason Becker and Shawn Lane. So was Lane a part of the production?

(google didnt help) :p:

the one that i downloaded says jason becker and shawn lane, so i am guessing that he was.

[MrScary07RR]

i dont think lane had anything to do with it, i have perpetual burn, and in the credits it says all songs written by jason becker, besides temple of the absurd and eleven blue egyptians, (which were with friedman.) Mabel's fatal fable isnt mentioned as having anyone guest on it, and lane's name isnt mentioned anywhere at all.

filesharers suck at labeling things, there are a lot of things like that out there with the wrong person's name.

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by MrScary07RR
i dont think lane had anything to do with it, i have perpetual burn, and in the credits it says all songs written by jason becker, besides temple of the absurd and eleven blue egyptians, (which were with friedman.) Mabel's fatal fable isnt mentioned as having anyone guest on it, and lane's name isnt mentioned anywhere at all.

filesharers suck at labeling things, there are a lot of things like that out there with the wrong person's name.

Yah, I think you are right.

http://www.guitar9.com/perpetualburn.html

[Freepower]

Originally posted by Dreadnought
A diatonic lead over a chromatic wank?!?!

:eek:

:puke:

Quiet you, the chromatic wank fit the song. :)

[Dreadnought]

:confused:

I didn't say it didn't... My post was in direct response to the one i quoted.

[Freepower]

Sorry!

Ah well, dont worry, i didnt take too much offense, and hopefully you didnt when i said that.

[sixteen times]

Originally posted by Dreadnought
A diatonic lead over a chromatic wank?!?!

:eek:

:puke:

Not OVER it, INSTEAD of it.

:cheers:

[lionheart0117]

Hey, quick question. Steve Vai didn't die of cancer, did he? One of my friends said he did, and after calling him a dumbass, I haven't heard a whole lot from Steve Vai recently.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

^Um, no.

Dont you think it would be in the news,or on the news section of this website?

[godofshred]

bnope...he is as alive as ever! wtf? y did he think he had cancer?

[SnowballofDoom]

No, he's alive. Besides, if he died, everyone in the shred forum would have already changed their sigs to RIP Vai.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

^Indeed.

[godofshred]

i think there would be no-one here..we'd all be grieving the loss of guitar god!

[spee]

lionheart0117, you made me skip ten beats when i saw that *catches breath*

[jasonbecker]

Yngwie Malmsteen died of Obesity though.

R.I.P. Yngwie Malmsteen.

[Axegrinder#9]

^ hahaaha :rolleyes:

[public property]

I nearly cryed with happiness before I realised you were joking!

[Mascot]

. . .where does your friend get this type of stuff. . .

[Beckerism]

Why is Satch always wearing glasses? Or atleast seems like it. (Im watching that 2 hour live thing off peavey.com :)

[Dreadnought]

^^ Because that's his thing.

Don't question the Satchman :)

[Freepower]

^ its because he has big eye implants that let him see a display which shows him all the notes on the fretboard, and all the ones that are in key...like one of those keyboards that lights up where you have to play it.

Its just to stop him screwing up.

[GuitarMoFo23]

No its because he takes special muscian steroids which make his eyes sensative to bright lights...

[public property]

It makes his head perfectly round, why else would he shave his head?

[SnowballofDoom]

It's so, if he sees a reflection of himself, he won't be blinded by his shiny head.

[pavan]

his name is stevie vai
and he's a wierd guy.........


any1 heard this song? its called stevies' spanking
a verrrrry funny song

zappa = great sense of humour

[The UG Squirrel]

zappa is so awesome...great musician with great lyrics and guitar skills

[Stratwizard]

Yes, and a very productive musician as well.

[The UG Squirrel]

doesnt he have about 77 albums?

[Axegrinder#9]

oi, anyone have the tabs for Cooley's "Under the Influence"?

[jasonbecker]

Ask Blackened-World, he tabbed out part of it.^

[Stratwizard]

^Wow! That takes some skill. Props to Blackened.

[Freepower]

^ indeed, but parts of it are on www.mysongbook.com

and for powertab, apparently. If blackened has that whole lick, would it be possible for him to send it to UG and let us weep?

[public property]

Originally posted by pavan
his name is stevie vai
and he's a wierd guy.........


any1 heard this song? its called stevies' spanking
a verrrrry funny song

zappa = great sense of humour

His name is stevie vai,
And he's a crazy guy,
(i think this line is) lest know then but I recall
he needed a spanking
(bom bom bom booom bom)

he decided then,
A female specimen,
would be right just for a night to,
give him a spanking
(bom bom bom booom bom)


;)

[pavan]

there's some story behind that song. apparently vai and some groupie (?) had to share a room in a motel one night and he inserted vegetables, broken guitar parts and stuff into her you-know-where. i think its explained in zappa's autobiography.

[pavan]

Blabbermouth.net reports, Megadeth, Steve Vai and Billy Sheehan are among the musicians that are scheduled to perform in India before the end of the year. "The artists have confirmed their tours around the end of the year and Delhi will certainly be part of the plan for some of these stars. Plans are also underway for rock god Eric Clapton's show early next year," says Cyrus Gorimar, proprietor of Opium, the event management firm that is organizing the concerts, according to HindustanTimes.com.

Joe Satriani is scheduled to play in Mumbai, Kolkata and Bangalore on May 13, 15 and 17 respectively. He?ll be accompanied by acknowledged musicians like Jeff Campetelli on drums, Matt Bissonette on bass and Galen Henson on rhythm guitar. "We are all very excited, as this is our first time in India. So be there," Satriani told HT City

[The UG Squirrel]

ok everyone, cooley or fareri?

[public property]

I think cooley would win, his guitars are bigger, more damaging.

[kyle_afi]

Tough choice. I'd say fareri would beat cooley sweeping, but in every other aspect, cooley pwns. (I'm talking primarily about speed here)

[Resiliance]

Cooley

[Freepower]

Cooley, but fareri just about beats him in chops.

That man can slap, sweep, alt pick and sweep and tap better than most specialist shredders can!

[Stratwizard]

Fareri.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Cooley, hands down.

[sixteen times]

Cooley. If you listen to the Jemfest interview on his website you will probably find him to be a nice guy. Not to mention his 9-string shred. :eek:

[public property]

what exactly is so special about sweep tapping? if anything its easier than sweeping cause your left hand takes a break.

[Resiliance]

^Wouldn't count on it, its way harder.

[Freepower]

^ I think to cleanly articulate it is VERY hard. To just sweep and tap badly is easy...

[Resiliance]

^Well, if it's not clean and articulate, it's not sweep tapping :p:

[Axegrinder#9]

yeah I never understand why people claim to play a zillion notes per second, and then say it ain't clean - if it ain't clean, it ain't worth ****.

[public property]

Thats why I like steves vai's thinking, hes always hyper critical of his playing. Its good to be like that.
And anyway, if you guys can sweep tap, do tapping legato, sounds even cooler.

[Contraband]

A particular pic I found with Rusty Cooley and Steve Vai. They both look queer. Here it is: (I'm just wondering why they seem like "huh, what facial expression should I use? I'm somewhat confused"?

[Stratwizard]

Yeah, they really look queer. Especially Steve.

[public property]

steve looks like one of those camp modern day men.
Cooley always looks really unhappy like a gay guy who desperately wants to come out of the closet.

[sixteen times]

I got bored so I saw how fast I could tap a single string wank.

Turned out to be 21.3 nps. Meh.


I just did 32nd notes at 160bpm.

(Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

:cheers:

[Freepower]

not too bad, but dont forget pedal tones, arps and all that other interesting stuff to tap too...

And thats cooley's patented, "i pwn you, but im a nice funny guy" expression...theres a vid somewhere of him doing insane legato while doing that expressiong, then pretending to smash his 8 string...

And vai always looks like a slightly queer wizard, but the guitar and the wizard overcome the queer...there, they honestly look like a couple.

[shredfan]

Originally posted by public property
Cooley always looks really unhappy like a gay guy who desperately wants to come out of the closet.

Ha ha, thats sad but true. Some of the pictures on his site are even worse as you've probably seen. But then he looks quite happy in the ones where he's with his daughter. I bet she doesn't get much attention though, seeing as Rusty must spend his life shredding.

Does anybody know why Rusty's selling his 9-string?

[Contraband]

Originally posted by shredfan
Ha ha, thats sad but true. Some of the pictures on his site are even worse as you've probably seen. But then he looks quite happy in the ones where he's with his daughter. I bet she doesn't get much attention though, seeing as Rusty must spend his life shredding.

Does anybody know why Rusty's selling his 9-string?

For tha yay, foo'. For the yay.

which translates to: Money! :p:

[The UG Squirrel]

hopefully rusty's teaching his daughter to shred like he can

[Resiliance]

Originally posted by shredfan
Does anybody know why Rusty's selling his 9-string?


He's getting a new one made.

[Stratwizard]

Ie he selling it on eBay? I wonder how high the price will go...:confused:

[sixteen times]

I think I saw the reserve to be $5000+

:eek:

Think anyone will buy it?

:cheers:

[public property]

Whats everyones thoughts about the next in the real illusions series?
I'm hoping the next installment has something like answers or jibboom on.

[SnowballofDoom]

I'm hoping the next cd will be as varied and unique as all the others. You can't really confuse Passion and Warfare with Real Illusions, because they're so different. Vai doesn't redo his other cds on his newer cds, they're all different, I'm just hoping he keeps doing that.

[public property]

Yeah but still, you can compare tracks from real illusions to similar work he has done, like k'm pee du wee sounds like boston rain melody or lotus feet like or the love of god.

[pavan]

Originally posted by SnowballofDoom
I'm hoping the next cd will be as varied and unique as all the others. You can't really confuse Passion and Warfare with Real Illusions, because they're so different. Vai doesn't redo his other cds on his newer cds, they're all different, I'm just hoping he keeps doing that.


every albumi is different, but has that signature vai--ness that would single him out in a room of a million guitarists.

i like freak show excess, it kept ringing in my head recently when I did a 6 hour marathon exam ( i am still alive ).

[narmi]

First post here i think :D

Hows it going guys? Anyway, I've never really been into shred, always had Surfing with The Alien and Crystal Planet (both I love) but never experienced other shredders apart from Satch and some Dream Theater (but the vocals annoy me)

So today I bought Steve Vai's Anthology which I'm liking, not music I can listen to every day but definately good.

Anyone want to recommend me some good shred along those lines? If there is any shred/metal please feel free to give it a mention.

:cheers:

[shredfan]

^Look in the must haves thread for a general guide to shred albums.

I'd say check out Frank Gambale if you haven't heard anything by him. Some of his songs sound quite Satriani esque. Maybe try his 'The Great Explorers' album.

:cheers:

[narmi]

Ah sorry, I didnt see that :haha was looking for "recommendation thread" but didnt see one so thought this was a more modern form of recommendation threads

:cheers:

[Freepower]

Theres also a great song by shredders thread - welcome to the shred forum, where sweeping is only a beginner's skill! :cheers:

and that makes me less than a shred beginner, lol....

[Beckerism]

Narmi, look up some Jason Becker. :cheers:

[spee]

Originally posted by Beckerism
Narmi, look up some Jason Becker. :cheers:

i second that :cheers:

[narmi]

Will do dudes, will do

:headbang:


:cheers:

[godofshred]

i cant finda any on the ol'e bearshare!

[SnowballofDoom]

Originally posted by vaishredder
vai kicks bottom...major bottom

I guess the thread is "random," but come on...



and yes, vai rules

[The UG Squirrel]

whats the best value shred album you guys have bought?

ill start by saying surfing with the alien for $AU10

[narmi]

I got Surfing With The Alien for £5 (very cheap over here even though converted into other currencies it would be the normal price) i.e that would be just under $10 in US ($8 probably)

[GuitarMoFo23]

Alien Love Secrets for 10 dollars at a Barnes and Nobles which surprised me becuase usually their cds are like 20 dollars each no matter what artist it is.