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DaFjory
11-07-2007, 09:38 PM
you're all wrong. its Gambale
Pronounciation, though. ;)
Y'know what – I want a soundbyte of the man himself saying it. Get to it, people.
Axegrinder#9
11-07-2007, 10:06 PM
enjoy :p:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EFIipZNtbEs
frankieD2989
11-08-2007, 01:14 AM
[QUOTE=DaFjory]Pronounciation, though. ;)
**** I feel dumb :p:
frankieD2989
11-08-2007, 01:21 AM
gambale says his name in the begining
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-e0e8haczo
The Virtuoso
11-13-2007, 10:01 PM
Resi, I have a question for you!
Do you know what kind of guitar that Stochelo Rosenberg plays and where I can find one? Or rather how much it cost? Also, if I can't get HIS guitar, one similar because when I buy another acoustic guitar, I want one with a similar sound to him (yes I know his fingers are part of his sound to but you know what I mean)
Also, I want to learn For Sephora, sometime soon, and since you know about Gypsy Jazz more than me (or do you play it to?), could you help me with it?
Thanks.
Resiliance
11-14-2007, 08:13 AM
Resi, I have a question for you!
Do you know what kind of guitar that Stochelo Rosenberg plays and where I can find one? Or rather how much it cost? Also, if I can't get HIS guitar, one similar because when I buy another acoustic guitar, I want one with a similar sound to him (yes I know his fingers are part of his sound to but you know what I mean)
I'm not sure exactly which guitar Stochelo plays, but it's bound to be an expensive custom made manouche/gitane/gypsy jazz acoustic (they go by tons of different names) by Maurice Dupont or something.
They're also called Selmer Maccaferri style guitars (that's the one that Django played, a Selmer Maccaferri).
There is a difference between gypsy jazz acoustics and regular acoustics though, gypsy jazz acoustics have more of a snap to their sound and not as much "boom" (if that makes sense), to ease the rapid chords and single-note flurries. They're also played with argentine strings. A special type of string made especially for gypsy jazz.
I've heard good things about the Saga and Gitane brands though (as far as I know, they're the same company), but they too go for no less than $900. I come across a reasonably cheap gypsy jazz guitar once in a while, but none of them spring to mind atm. They're not easy to find on the cheap.
It's not all the guitar though. I have a pdf dedicated to gypsy jazz picking technique, as it's quite different from any other genre. I'll upload it.
Also, I want to learn For Sephora, sometime soon, and since you know about Gypsy Jazz more than me (or do you play it to?), could you help me with it?
Thanks.
Sure, though I'm not sure exactly what you need help with?
The Virtuoso
11-14-2007, 11:13 PM
I'm not sure exactly which guitar Stochelo plays, but it's bound to be an expensive custom made manouche/gitane/gypsy jazz acoustic (they go by tons of different names) by Maurice Dupont or something.
They're also called Selmer Maccaferri style guitars (that's the one that Django played, a Selmer Maccaferri).
There is a difference between gypsy jazz acoustics and regular acoustics though, gypsy jazz acoustics have more of a snap to their sound and not as much "boom" (if that makes sense), to ease the rapid chords and single-note flurries. They're also played with argentine strings. A special type of string made especially for gypsy jazz.
I've heard good things about the Saga and Gitane brands though (as far as I know, they're the same company), but they too go for no less than $900. I come across a reasonably cheap gypsy jazz guitar once in a while, but none of them spring to mind atm. They're not easy to find on the cheap.
It's not all the guitar though. I have a pdf dedicated to gypsy jazz picking technique, as it's quite different from any other genre. I'll upload it.
Sure, though I'm not sure exactly what you need help with?
Thanks for responding man. I figured the guitars wouldn't be cheap, but one can hope. I was just asking that question because I couldn't find much info about his guitar and I don't know much about Gypsy jazz and the guitars they use; I didn't even know they had to use special strings. I was also asking because when I do buy another acoustic guitar, it will be an expensive one like these...at least I'm hoping so.
I like his sound, especially in For Sephora, god it is so good! The rhythm, lead, everything, hopefully I'll learn more about this stuff in my classes at my university.
Anyway, about the song, well I love the rhythm and if I I'm correct, it is a bossanova rhythm? Key? Chords? How would I go about transcribing this? Just listening a bunch? As for the lead, I think I could transcribe most of it, I've done parts here and there, but...his vibrato...it is hard :(. You also mentioned a specific type of picking, now I'm curious :).
One more thing, theory wise, what is Stochello doing? Do you know, I'm wondering because I need to start developing this. Well, whatever you can answer, please do. :peace:
P.S. That is the longest post I have EVER seen from you Resi :p:
Resiliance
11-15-2007, 08:42 AM
Anyway, about the song, well I love the rhythm and if I I'm correct, it is a bossanova rhythm? Key? Chords? How would I go about transcribing this? Just listening a bunch? As for the lead, I think I could transcribe most of it, I've done parts here and there, but...his vibrato...it is hard :(.
The rhythm is just a swing rhythm called la pompe you'll find in most, if not all gypsy jazz. For Sephora in particular is very close to bossa nova though.
Chords: linky (http://resi.picturepower.be/The_Virtuoso/Rosenberg%20Trio%20-%20For%20Sephora.gp4)
Key: starts out in E minor then modulates to G major (yes yes I hear you say they're the same thing, but not really). There are some tricky bits though, such as the B7 which is the V chord of E harmonic minor which is then kept alongside the D7, which is just the regular V chord of G major, to make for a dominant and slightly ambiguous iii chord.
How to transcribe? Like everything... Make sure you know it by heart, and get on that ear training. http://www.solfege.org/
You also mentioned a specific type of picking, now I'm curious :).
linky (http://resi.picturepower.be/The_Virtuoso/Gypsy%20Picking%20-%20Michael%20Horowitz.pdf)
One more thing, theory wise, what is Stochello doing? Do you know, I'm wondering because I need to start developing this. Well, whatever you can answer, please do. :peace:
The same thing guitarists do in most other branches of jazz. Follow the chords. Play arpeggios (very important) and spicing them up with chromatics, outside notes, tension and release, y'know... Use target notes, neighbour tones (i.e. play both notes right next to a chord tone before actually landing on it to release tension, play the note chromatically above it, diatonically below, etc... Plenty of options), etc. But most of all, just start by playing the arpeggios inside out over their respective chords and make sure you can go from one arpeggio to the next properly (for example by looking for tones that are in both arpeggios, or are just a semitone away, etc). I suspect they (like me), don't really even use scales. A scale just becomes an arpeggio and a few tensions if you play like this (tensions meaning notes that aren't in the chord).
P.S. That is the longest post I have EVER seen from you Resi :p:
Meh, I used to post a lot more and a lot longer posts, but there's only so much repeating yourself one can stand after all these years.
nonickname
11-16-2007, 04:21 PM
Hey guys, I have a question.
In the Satriani, Vai, Johnson G3 they play My guitar wants to kill you mama. When Steve plays his solo he uses this random scale during the main riff. Afterwards he switchs to an F sharp pentatonic scale when they move the riff to B. I really nt to know what scale he uses when he did his solo during the main riff. Could you guys please find out? Thanks a lot.
The Virtuoso
11-18-2007, 09:29 PM
The rhythm is just a swing rhythm called la pompe you'll find in most, if not all gypsy jazz. For Sephora in particular is very close to bossa nova though.
Chords: linky (http://resi.picturepower.be/The_Virtuoso/Rosenberg%20Trio%20-%20For%20Sephora.gp4)
Key: starts out in E minor then modulates to G major (yes yes I hear you say they're the same thing, but not really). There are some tricky bits though, such as the B7 which is the V chord of E harmonic minor which is then kept alongside the D7, which is just the regular V chord of G major, to make for a dominant and slightly ambiguous iii chord.
How to transcribe? Like everything... Make sure you know it by heart, and get on that ear training. http://www.solfege.org/
linky (http://resi.picturepower.be/The_Virtuoso/Gypsy%20Picking%20-%20Michael%20Horowitz.pdf)
The same thing guitarists do in most other branches of jazz. Follow the chords. Play arpeggios (very important) and spicing them up with chromatics, outside notes, tension and release, y'know... Use target notes, neighbour tones (i.e. play both notes right next to a chord tone before actually landing on it to release tension, play the note chromatically above it, diatonically below, etc... Plenty of options), etc. But most of all, just start by playing the arpeggios inside out over their respective chords and make sure you can go from one arpeggio to the next properly (for example by looking for tones that are in both arpeggios, or are just a semitone away, etc). I suspect they (like me), don't really even use scales. A scale just becomes an arpeggio and a few tensions if you play like this (tensions meaning notes that aren't in the chord).
Meh, I used to post a lot more and a lot longer posts, but there's only so much repeating yourself one can stand after all these years.
Thanks again, Resi.
It seems this is going to take longer and be harder than I thought :(. I will learn this song though, I just don't know when, especially with that Gypsy picking technique :eek:, it is crazy! It seems so weird since I'm used to alternate picking, and occasionally economy and hybrid picking. Anyway, thanks for the links and help man :peace:
sweeppicker91'
11-19-2007, 07:37 PM
anybody have a MAB dampener? Just got one, but have different string heights, so the top two strings aren't really being dampened...
sheumack111
11-20-2007, 01:49 AM
^Sounds like it was worth it :rolleyes: i just use a rubber band near the nut, works preety well...
NevermorePsalm
11-20-2007, 07:41 PM
ahah first time I've been here and forever and we are talking about Gypsy Jazz. How I <3 Django. ahah. does this forum generally still exist outside of a few posts a day?
Evil_Magician
11-21-2007, 02:11 AM
ahah first time I've been here and forever and we are talking about Gypsy Jazz. How I <3 Django. ahah. does this forum generally still exist outside of a few posts a day?
Django FTW.
I bought a book about his style recently , learned many awesome licks.
duggyrocks
11-21-2007, 02:25 PM
Speaking of Jazz I'm attempting to get into some. I've got Kind Of Blue, thats it so far :P:, haven't got a chance to listen to it yet though.
Can anyone recommend some good jazz guitarists to start out with?
DaFjory
11-21-2007, 07:58 PM
Speaking of Jazz I'm attempting to get into some. I've got Kind Of Blue, thats it so far :P:, haven't got a chance to listen to it yet though.
Can anyone recommend some good jazz guitarists to start out with?
Allan Holdsworth (who I'm seeing live on Monday!) and Frank Gambale are the top 2 jazz 'fusion' guys that come to my mind.
^^Holdsworth? where? Oh how i envy you!!!
As for more jazz id recommend--
Miles Davis- Birth of the Cool, Bitches Brew, Milestones
John Coltrane-Giant Steps, A Love Supreme
For jazz guitar try Tal Farlow, Barney Kessel (particularly his Pollwinners trio albums), Joe Pass' Virtuoso recordings, Kenny Burrell Midnight Blue, Grant Green. If you dont like those, then perhaps jazz aint for you.
CJRocker
11-21-2007, 11:21 PM
Allan Holdsworth (who I'm seeing live on Monday!) and Frank Gambale are the top 2 jazz 'fusion' guys that come to my mind.
No offense but I had a few friends who saw him here about a year back... They were very disappointed. His playing was off and his tone didn't seem to goo good. Maybe he just had an off night, but they said as a whole they were rather let down.
anybody have a MAB dampener? Just got one, but have different string heights, so the top two strings aren't really being dampened...
I find a hairband is the best thing for that, as rubber bands can sound bad for it.
HeliuM
11-22-2007, 03:47 PM
Anyone know some heavy sounding vai songs, like bad horsie and building the church?
johnny_tapia
11-22-2007, 08:10 PM
Anyone know some heavy sounding vai songs, like bad horsie and building the church?
Bad horsie is about as heavy as it gets for Vai :)
DaFjory
11-22-2007, 09:01 PM
Anyone know some heavy sounding vai songs, like bad horsie and building the church?
The Mysterious Murder Of Christian Tiera's Lover, and the second half of Fire Garden Suite (both from the Fire Garden album) are quite heavylicious for Vai at least.
tubab0y
11-22-2007, 11:36 PM
great balls of gold is heavier.
eviledge87
11-23-2007, 10:39 AM
Does anyone here play classical guitar? Even just a little bit? I've recently started playing it, as a side project. I can play Prelude Number 4 in E minor by Hector Villa-Lobos, but I'm not sure where to go from here, so if anyone has any advice it would be much appreciated.
sheumack111
11-23-2007, 07:51 PM
Does anyone here play classical guitar? Even just a little bit? I've recently started playing it, as a side project. I can play Prelude Number 4 in E minor by Hector Villa-Lobos, but I'm not sure where to go from here, so if anyone has any advice it would be much appreciated.
Ahh glad there is some other Classical guitarists here!
Ive been playing classical for about a year now....
Some recomendations:
Brouwer studies: VI, VII, XI (VI is where Randy got the "Diary of a Madman" intro from)
Guiliani: Rondo from the Three sonitinas OP. 71 No. 1
Carcassi: Caprice Op. 26 No. 4
Sor: Minuet # 3, 14, 20
Bach Suite No 1
That should keep you relatively busy...
eviledge87
11-23-2007, 08:03 PM
Ahh glad there is some other Classical guitarists here!
Ive been playing classical for about a year now....
Some recomendations:
Brouwer studies: VI, VII, XI (VI is where Randy got the "Diary of a Madman" intro from)
Guiliani: Rondo from the Three sonitinas OP. 71 No. 1
Carcassi: Caprice Op. 26 No. 4
Sor: Minuet # 3, 14, 20
Bach Suite No 1
That should keep you relatively busy...
Hey thanks man! :D I tried to learn the classical fingerpicking section of Air by Becker, but it's hard a **** and I usually give up after 3 measures. :(
Have you heard of Hector Villa-Lobos?
^^^ sure, hes one of the most prolific composers ever=i think he produced more stuff than Bach(!).
As for the classical stuff, i think guitartrade blogspot has some pretty cool masterclasses and tabs in their lessons and tutorials section.
eviledge87
11-23-2007, 08:59 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yV83yltcGuo&feature=related
I love playing this so, it's a lot of fun. I can't fingerpcik well enough to play the middle section up to speed though. I learned it from sheet music too, not tabs. (Sorry for bragging, but im very proud of myself).
sheumack111
11-24-2007, 08:36 PM
Hey thanks man! :D I tried to learn the classical fingerpicking section of Air by Becker, but it's hard a **** and I usually give up after 3 measures. :(
Have you heard of Hector Villa-Lobos?
Nice nice, do you read sheet music?? Thats one of the biggest recomendations I can give anyone wanting to delve into classical (along with music in general) seriously.... You need to be able to read music, rather then tab.
Yes, I bought a couple of sheets the other day of Heitor Villa-Lobos (Prelude No1).... Havent started learning them yet though, as concentrating on my uni audition pieces....
moorenza
11-26-2007, 07:53 AM
UR THE ****N NOOB! I SHRED 20 TIMES AS FAST AS U!!!!!!!!!!!!
RULES AND HELPFULL SITES
Important rule :
Noobs are welcome in here, with questions about shred, no stupid lines like : 'slash is 10 times as fast as angelo' so don't flame the ones with questions... or I will report you...
some shredders sites :
www.vai.com
www.angelo.com
www.dreamtheater.net
www.vinniemoore.com
www.bucketheadland.com
www.satriani.com
www.jasonbecker.com
www.shawnlane.com
www.rustycooley.com
www.joestump.com
www.yngwie.org
www.ericjohnson.com
some exercise sites :
www.insaneguitar.com
www.theshredzone.com
www.chopsfromhell.com
ALWAYS PRACTISE WITH A METRONOME.
Some tab sites :
http://www.jbakerman.com/trans/ ( vai tabs new album )
www.powertabs.net
www.mysongbook.com
www.mxtabs.net
www.ultimate-guitar.com
http://yngwie.org/music/scripts.html ( yngwie tabs )
Another important rule :
Don't call names at eachother when people say things like : "dude michael angelo sucks, he's just based on speed and doesn't play with feeling at all " . that's his/her opinion, respect it. obviously you can tell him/her that you've an other opinion but that doesn't mean he's some stupid ****ing retarded mother****er or something like that. if I see disrespecting posts like that I will report you, again.
:cheers:
johnny_tapia
11-26-2007, 10:55 AM
UR THE ****N NOOB! I SHRED 20 TIMES AS FAST AS U!!!!!!!!!!!!
What? :confused:
Resiliance
11-26-2007, 12:03 PM
Warned. Make sense next time.
DaFjory
11-26-2007, 10:11 PM
No offense but I had a few friends who saw him here about a year back... They were very disappointed. His playing was off and his tone didn't seem to goo good. Maybe he just had an off night, but they said as a whole they were rather let down.
If you were referring to Holdsworth... well, having seen him last night, I can honestly say that apart from having to wait 2 agonising (for my legs!) hours for him to appear onstage, he performed everything note-perfectly and had the most gorgeous tone I've ever heard him pull off. I even got to shake his hand and have him sign stuff, too! Best concert I've been to in my whole life. Beats my earlier Dream Theater show by a country kilometre. :p:
CJRocker
11-27-2007, 12:22 AM
If you were referring to Holdsworth... well, having seen him last night, I can honestly say that apart from having to wait 2 agonising (for my legs!) hours for him to appear onstage, he performed everything note-perfectly and had the most gorgeous tone I've ever heard him pull off. I even got to shake his hand and have him sign stuff, too! Best concert I've been to in my whole life. Beats my earlier Dream Theater show by a country kilometre. :p:
Nice. Glad he put on a good show for you. I almost went to that one but was later told I should be thankful I didn't. I guess when you have an off night you have an off night, sometimes you just have to see 'em again.
buzzcut
11-27-2007, 06:09 PM
need help from you shredders out there! I am starting to shred. I am using a metronome and I am doing a bit of steve vais 10 hour workout and I am doing some other small licks(mainly speed picking).
my question is about my picking techique. Should I amchor my pinky and pick more towards the neck or rest my hand on the bridge? It feels way better to rest my hand on the bridge and I can play faster that way, but will it be bad in the long run? thanks for the help.
which ones pink
11-27-2007, 07:33 PM
^Don't do either, play with a floating hand. It's ok to lightly touch your hand to the lower strings to mute them though, as long as your hand isn't stuck in one spot.
Here's a massive thread on the subject:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=339913&highlight=Anchor
\m/ metalmaniac
11-30-2007, 10:58 PM
some of the shred stuff is really really wanky.. michael angelo batio for example. or even steve vai. its not they dont play with feeling,, but more that they are not blessed with a decent sense of melody.
\m/ metalmaniac
11-30-2007, 11:00 PM
hey man i was wondering if those behringer ultra metal pedals are any good, because im considering buying one myself ?
nightraven
12-01-2007, 07:35 AM
some of the shred stuff is really really wanky.. michael angelo batio for example. or even steve vai. its not they dont play with feeling,, but more that they are not blessed with a decent sense of melody.
coughfortheloveofgodcough
xAlayax
12-01-2007, 09:24 AM
Hey,
I recently bought Troy Stetina's "Speed mechanics for lead guitar", which is an amazing book, i recommend it.
But, after just studying the first chapter, it's highlighted one fatal flaw in my playing. See, Troy's got this whole "distance= time" theory, which basicaly means keep your fingers close to the fret board (no more than half an inch away).
But, i noticed when i play that all my fingers are well within that comfort zone barr my pinky... which goes completely ascue like a stereo-typical englishman drinking tea...
Any tips to get this right? besides "practice, practice, practice", which i'm doing. =)
Any good excercises?
Cheers muchly.
frankieD2989
12-01-2007, 04:40 PM
Hey,
I recently bought Troy Stetina's "Speed mechanics for lead guitar", which is an amazing book, i recommend it.
But, after just studying the first chapter, it's highlighted one fatal flaw in my playing. See, Troy's got this whole "distance= time" theory, which basicaly means keep your fingers close to the fret board (no more than half an inch away).
But, i noticed when i play that all my fingers are well within that comfort zone barr my pinky... which goes completely ascue like a stereo-typical englishman drinking tea...
Any tips to get this right? besides "practice, practice, practice", which i'm doing. =)
Any good excercises?
Cheers muchly.
I have this book too and its extremely effective if used faithfully. as far as your fingers being close to the fretboard obviously practice and go really slow so you can break your old habbits and create better ones. don't get too hung up at the beginning of the book though cause its loads of fun once you get past the first part.
Evil_Magician
12-01-2007, 05:40 PM
coughfortheloveofgodcough
coughtendersurrendercough
Resiliance
12-01-2007, 05:54 PM
I have this book too and its extremely effective if used faithfully. as far as your fingers being close to the fretboard obviously practice and go really slow so you can break your old habits and create better ones. don't get too hung up at the beginning of the book though cause its loads of fun once you get past the first part.
Yep.
buzzcut
12-01-2007, 10:07 PM
hey man i was wondering if those behringer ultra metal pedals are any good, because im considering buying one myself ?
I have one and its pretty good. Just as good if not better as the dgitech death metal pedal. You can hear it in my youtube videos. Be aware that it is being plugged into a fender frontman 15g. :p:
Stratwizard
12-18-2007, 04:42 PM
If anyone's interested go check out a few new songs of mine: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11814683
DaFjory
12-19-2007, 12:46 AM
I recently rediscovered Tony MacAlpine. I remember randomly trying two of his songs early last year (Gila Monster and Final Hour), but for some reason was put off by his tone and what seemed to be – to my ignorant self at the time – blatant 'Yngwie-ripping'. I don't know why his tone sounded so bad to me... I mean I was calling it "screechy" and "bleedy", ffs! What was I on?
So anyway, a month ago I was still expanding on my 80's shred CDs, at which point I decided to be bold and download Tony's debut album, Edge Of Insanity. I just figured "why not?" and wanted to give him another chance, even though I was sure I wasn't going to like it.
Like hell I didn't! That album fackin rocks my socks. Have you guys heard that lick from The Witch And The Priest? I swear to god, it's the sweetest little melody I've ever heard. Couldn't stop listening to it.
"Great album! I want more", I thought. Little did I know that I'd be about to make one of the best shred album decisions in a long time (since I randomly bought Greg Howe's self-titled debut, which ruled so much I'm still listening to it after over a month).
Along came Maximum Security. Hooooooly sheeyat! I'm telling you guys right now, you have to listen to the song Dreamstate. This man is a fackin melody-making machine. I don't know what I was thinking by calling his tone "bleedy" – it is sweet as sugar. All that gorgeous delay, reverb and tube goodness.
In conclusion, another fantastic shredder to add to my growing collection. Anyone else a fan, or should I just make a topic for him? I mean, come on – the guy looks like VIN DIESEL, for crying out loud! :D
Resiliance
12-19-2007, 07:58 AM
I'm really not that big a fan of Macalpine, even though I have his discography :p:
Probably the fact that I'm not really a whole lot into neoclassical anymore. A lot of his albums have a bunch of filler though.
Oh, and I hate the mixing on both CD's you named. I guess my favorite neoclassical track of his would be Tears Of Sahara and overall Capistrano off his Freedom To Fly CD, along with most of his CAB fusion stuff.
Dreamstate sounds generic to me :(
public property
12-23-2007, 04:41 AM
Its funny, all this time I thought he did the guitars in the planet x album quantum, but I just looked it up after seeing this topic and I see its holdesworth, hah, I thought the sound was way too good for mcalpine, wondered why I never heard that immaculate legato on tonys his live jams.
Godly Moose
12-24-2007, 04:26 AM
Man, did I ever tell you guys that I like geetars?
tubab0y
12-24-2007, 11:27 AM
that's too bad. i prefer hot girls over guitars.
Godly Moose
12-24-2007, 12:25 PM
that's too bad. i prefer hot girls over guitars.
To many cooties for me.
eviledge87
12-25-2007, 01:51 PM
Merry Christmas!
seljer
12-27-2007, 08:54 PM
I want to hear a Shawn Lane cover of Over The Rainbow. :(
He would've been the only person capable of doing a rendition of it on electric guitar without it sounding too wankery (all the ones i've heard so far)
Tommy Emmanuel does a nice acoustic version though
Freepower
12-28-2007, 05:30 PM
Merry Christmas!
I saw my family for the first time in ages. Work has been mental. Two days off - 25th and 26th. Insane.
public property
12-28-2007, 05:51 PM
Are you a mirage? or a magic shred pixie.
eviledge87
12-29-2007, 12:09 AM
I saw my family for the first time in ages. Work has been mental. Two days off - 25th and 26th. Insane.
Well hopefully you're doing well, this thread does seem womewhat diminished without your regulater presence.
Freepower
12-29-2007, 03:44 PM
Well hopefully you're doing well, this thread does seem womewhat diminished without your regulater presence.
Doing well, hopefully post christmas retail enviroment i can get some more proper teaching done around.
Im happy, im just really really insanely busy. 45 hour week, 2 hours of commuting a day, living away from family for the first time, etc etc. :p:
public property
12-29-2007, 09:18 PM
So FP, would you say anchoring is better than not anchoring?
sheumack111
12-30-2007, 10:07 PM
Ok so after about 20 hours, 3 guitars, plenty of strings, a few drum heads, a few blown monitors and various assortments of ears we have finally finished mixing a rendition of Frank Zappas Muffin Man. Please check it out and tell me what you think
http://www.myspace.com/samuelmacdon...umackandfriends
thefoldarsoldar
12-30-2007, 11:40 PM
So FP, would you say anchoring is better than not anchoring?
.....is that a serious question?
Evil_Magician
12-31-2007, 05:02 AM
This has probably been pointed out hundreds of times but i need to say it anyway:
Rusty Cooley always reminds me of the music store clerk in Waynes world :D
They look very similar.
Rusty is pretty much a shred beast (i'm not a big fan of his style though) so i thought this post fits in the shred forum.
metal4eva_22
12-31-2007, 07:46 PM
this is probably a common question, but my picking hand always tenses up when I play above 140 on the metranome, I can play it still, cleanly, but I hear this is bad and I want to stop doing it?
Alex Zyka
01-01-2008, 08:06 AM
Fareri is THE most boring shredder ever. He can't vibrato properly, no bending, no legato, no phrasing. Only arpeggios and scale runs ( minor exclusively) at blinding speed with phone standby tone. Anyone agree?
tubab0y
01-01-2008, 11:28 AM
this is probably a common question, but my picking hand always tenses up when I play above 140 on the metranome, I can play it still, cleanly, but I hear this is bad and I want to stop doing it?
Slow down a bunch and start off again slower, and re-build up to speed making sure there's absolutely no tension.
Freepower
01-01-2008, 02:15 PM
So FP, would you say anchoring is better than not anchoring?
Actually, anchoring IS better, i've just spent a long time convincing people otherwise - because in 10 years time, everyone will be **** except me, the almighty Anchror!
TheShred201
01-01-2008, 03:16 PM
Alex Zyka--I disagree. First, he does have some legato. Secondly, I prefer his tone to Batio's...and his playing actually. I've heard some not-famous shredders that are a lot less interesting than him too. Fareri isn't my favorite but is definitely not my least either.
Music Resource
01-02-2008, 08:13 AM
Nuno shreads quite well on Pornograffitti. Sorry if it's already been mentioned in this rather large thread.
Evil_Magician
01-02-2008, 09:28 AM
this is probably a common question, but my picking hand always tenses up when I play above 140 on the metranome, I can play it still, cleanly, but I hear this is bad and I want to stop doing it?
Yeah i had that problem too .
Basicly , at 140 bpm you're switching from normal picking to tremolo picking.
If you continue to play using the normal technique you will tense up because it's too fast using that way of picking.
To solve this problem , you gotta play the fastest tremolo picking you can and slow it down gradualy without changing the picking technique.
Practice on using this technique slowly and make sure you are using your wrist and it's moving freely without tention.
I remember when i was stuck on this problem and i couldn't figure out what to do to fix it.
I learned it the hard way and got RSI for like a week.
Yeah , Nuno Bettencourt is amazing.
I prefer the first Extreme album though.
It's like Van Halen on steroids.
When i first heard Nunos fills and solos on that album , i realy went like "WTF!!! How did he just play that lick"
It's awesome ****.
eviledge87
01-03-2008, 06:15 PM
Well this has been done here before, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
I want a tube amp, a combo since buying a serperate head and cab would be too pricey. I'd like to spend around 500 bucks. Advice anyone? I just want something reliable. I play a Jackson Kelly (with cheap jackson pickups) if that helps at all.
Evil_Magician
01-03-2008, 06:25 PM
Go for a Peavey Valveking 212.
I've got the 112 but i'm planning to upgrade to the head version.
The tone of it is awesome.
I use it to get a PG , Yngwie esque tone but it can even do high gain stuff and has got nice cleans.
If you gonna buy new , the Valveking is definatly something to consider, but ofcourse a better choice would be to look for some used amps.
monsterfreak204
01-03-2008, 06:32 PM
stupid ****ing nirvana[/QUOTE]
Nirvana is awesome im young so i dint get to see them in concert before kurt blew his brains out but there just............AWESOME :kissass: :finger: :kissass:
Prophet of Page
01-07-2008, 01:53 PM
Turns out studying advanced math is extremely time consuming.
How have you all been?
Freepower
01-07-2008, 04:25 PM
Good, living in dublin now, how are you? I'm busy with work - i work in a HMV as a tillmonkey - and commuting. Advanced maths fun as well as time consuming?
Resiliance
01-07-2008, 07:56 PM
Turns out doing jack-**** is time consuming too... :p:
Stratwizard
01-08-2008, 09:54 AM
Turns out studying advanced math is extremely time consuming.
How have you all been?
I'm studying advanced maths too.. with chemistry and physics. It indeed does consume time, but it's worth it methinks.
Prophet of Page
01-08-2008, 11:20 AM
Good, living in dublin now, how are you? I'm busy with work - i work in a HMV as a tillmonkey - and commuting. Advanced maths fun as well as time consuming?
I'm grand. Good to hear you're getting on well too.
And advanced math is the most wonderful thing ever.
Turns out doing jack-**** is time consuming too...
I think I missed you most of all...
I'm studying advanced maths too.. with chemistry and physics. It indeed does consume time, but it's worth it methinks.
Yeah I do chemistry and physics too. Next year it will be just maths though. The maths department in the university are delighted to have me, and the physicis department are lamenting losing me. That's why they're arranging that after my first B.Sc in maths I can do two more years to get a double B.Sc in experimental and theoretical physics.
Then I suppose I'll have to get a Ph.D.
Also, I just bought myself a laptop so I should be communicating with you all a little more in the near future.
I loves you guys.
The Virtuoso
01-14-2008, 08:12 PM
I think I'll follow Prophet's example and tell you how much I love you guys :heart:.
Without you I never would have found the music that I have found to this day if it weren't for you guys (Resi, for Gypsy Jazz, Free for Shawn Lane and Guthrie, etd).
Night_Lights
01-14-2008, 10:31 PM
GUESS WHOS GOT THE NEWEST YOUNG GUITAR MAGAZINE WITH PAUL GILBERT ON THE COVER AND DVD SHOWING THINGS OFF THE NEW ALBUM!!!!?
me.
:D
so good i had to post it twice. The new songs are awesome beyond awesome, The Gargoyle will be all over youtube, i guarantee!
johnny_tapia
01-15-2008, 09:36 AM
GUESS WHOS GOT THE NEWEST YOUNG GUITAR MAGAZINE WITH PAUL GILBERT ON THE COVER AND DVD SHOWING THINGS OFF THE NEW ALBUM!!!!?
me.
:D
so good i had to post it twice. The new songs are awesome beyond awesome, The Gargoyle will be all over youtube, i guarantee!
Stop boasting and upload the videos :p:
Night_Lights
01-16-2008, 03:36 AM
I would, but i dont know how to rip the vids off the dvd
TheI7ark
01-17-2008, 12:35 AM
Uhhh... I still see Resi and Beckerism so... Boo!
(Shred is still cool)
TheShred201
01-17-2008, 05:29 AM
Does anyone happen to have the Sept. 2007 young guitar that would be willing to make a tab of the Shane Gibson Stuff and send it to me?
Evil_Magician
01-17-2008, 05:56 AM
Hey everyone.
Go get this album:
CAB 2
http://www.amazon.com/CAB-2-Tony-MacAlpine/dp/B000059LDZ
I just got it and it's sick.
kick ass jazz fusion
johnny_tapia
01-17-2008, 06:59 AM
I would, but i dont know how to rip the vids off the dvd
Can anyone help? :(
Evil_Magician
01-17-2008, 09:04 AM
Hey johnny:
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=dvd+ripper&btnG=Google-sökning&meta=
Try looking trough those.
I can't wait for the uploads.
johnny_tapia
01-17-2008, 01:00 PM
Hey johnny:
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=dvd+ripper&btnG=Google-sökning&meta=
Try looking trough those.
I can't wait for the uploads.
Thanks for that :cheers:
CowboyUp
01-25-2008, 10:53 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-426895774002032686
Thought you guys might enjoy this. It's long, but it's full of hilarious moments with Marty giving bad advice :haha
"Don't have your strap high, you won't get any chicks"
"Keep the volume and tone knobs at ten. If you put them lower your guitar just sounds baaaaaaaaaaaad"
diminishedtobme
01-27-2008, 05:28 PM
Found this on Jemsite and felt like sharing; Its some Shawn Lane tabs
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=772577&postcount=29
s-g man
01-29-2008, 02:38 AM
Found this on Jemsite and felt like sharing; Its some Shawn Lane tabs
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=772577&postcount=29
Oh yes! ive been looking everywhere for shawn lane tabs!
ty
TheShred201
01-29-2008, 02:52 AM
Most of the 22 song PT's arent very good but I'm going to work on fixing them up.
Carter_84
01-29-2008, 04:48 PM
I just found a link to this video off insane guitar, some guy playin Caprice No. V by Nicolo Paganini, I know it's an incredibly hard piece to play but he just seems to have sacrificed clarity for speed. Maybe it's just me, see what ya think.
http://www.kevinmbuck.com/index2.html
edit: sorry, you have to click music, then videos
Beckerism
01-29-2008, 07:06 PM
Wow those bends are atrocious. As is the rest. :p:
johnny_tapia
01-29-2008, 07:09 PM
I just found a link to this video off insane guitar, some guy playin Caprice No. V by Nicolo Paganini, I know it's an incredibly hard piece to play but he just seems to have sacrificed clarity for speed. Maybe it's just me, see what ya think.
http://www.kevinmbuck.com/index2.html
edit: sorry, you have to click music, then videos
I'm sorry, but that is just noise.
Resiliance
01-29-2008, 08:38 PM
It ain't speed if it hasn't got clarity...
johnny_tapia
01-30-2008, 09:43 AM
It ain't speed if it hasn't got clarity...
I like that sentence. I am going to steal it and use it when I see necessary. Thank you :cheers:
I just found a link to this video off insane guitar, some guy playin Caprice No. V by Nicolo Paganini, I know it's an incredibly hard piece to play but he just seems to have sacrificed clarity for speed. Maybe it's just me, see what ya think.
http://www.kevinmbuck.com/index2.html
edit: sorry, you have to click music, then videos
It never ceases to amaze me the number of guitarists who seem able to move both hands at preposterous speeds---which evidently means hours of practise---yet their articulation, accuracy and overall clarity is almost nonexistent.
When I practise, the best payoff for me is when I can see/hear an improvement in my own phrasing and accuracy.
Take this Kevin Buck guy---when he was practising, did he like what he was hearing or what?? Did no considerate family member ever tell him, 'yeah youre fast but you sound horrible'? Anyone else agree with me?
I felt compelled to watch the new Young Guitar Gilbert videos after Kevin Buck just to remind myself what a guitarist with BRILLIANT articualtion sounds like.
Well said Resiliance. :golfclap:
Carter_84
01-31-2008, 06:17 PM
^absolutely agree, he's just gone for balls to the wall speed, and it sounds awful. His website makes me laugh, and if you read his articles on insane guitar it says somehting like 'many consider Kevin Buck the premier shred guistist in the world today'. which world is that exactly??
I think this video totally proves that accuracy is where you need to focus, the speed will jus come naturally.
calebrocker
01-31-2008, 07:06 PM
i hate it when people are like..OMG look I can sweep!
then it's all sloppy and crap. and when people usually talk about guitar skills, one of the first things they ask is can you do sweeps? what's the obsession with sweeps? i know they sound cool, and they look cool, but so does tapping. and, most of the time, people overdo sweeps and it's just aweful.
on another thought, does anyone happen to know offhand what the record is for most picked notes per second?
TheShred201
01-31-2008, 09:32 PM
Somewhere around somewhere around 22nps if the highest calculated valid picking as far as I know (no legato/tapping)
calebrocker
02-01-2008, 01:13 PM
I think I got somewhere around 30-32 ish in a second, alternate picking.
I set my metronome for 60. Then I picked to where I got 4 notes in a click, which is 4 notes per second. Then, I did the whole 1+2+3+4+, so I got 8 notes in a click. Then, 16ths, then since there isn't a way to actually count 32nd notes, I just doubled the speed from when I was doing the 16ths. At this point, my hand was going so fast, and the pick and everything was going so fast, it just sounded like a big blur. Is there a way I could record that, and somehow slow it down and count the notes? I'm sure there is...on audacity there's a setting where you can slow it down, so I guess I could record it like normal, then listen and count. I don't care about the record, I'm just curious as to how fast and how many notes I'm actually picking.
public property
02-01-2008, 02:31 PM
Its funny how if you got someone with good technical taste, they would probably enjoy hearing a clean toned speedy solo far more than a distorted one, which is probably quite the opposite of what most people would think.
Freepower
02-01-2008, 03:51 PM
Somewhere around somewhere around 22nps if the highest calculated valid picking as far as I know (no legato/tapping)
I've seen 28 spazzpicked. Thats it, really. :)
And duh, clarity. The problem is that people just don't LISTEN to themselves. :(
DaFjory
02-01-2008, 04:12 PM
I reckon if put in a contest (not that it needs to be done; just a childish vision here!) to measure pure alt picking, Gilbert would absolutely run rings around everyone. Batio, Petrucci, Cooley, Yngwie... the lot of 'em.
I've never seen such clean, efficient and economic picking motion from anyone else except Lane. Regardless of any nps 'facts' being thrown around, to me he's simply the fastest player alive. And I can't believe I'll be seeing him live in May!
For fast and clean sweeps though, I think it'd be a close call between Cooley, Batio and Gambale. I won't even count Fareri, since his tone is so horrendous that you can barely hear any clarity in his notes (plus he spazzes out, so it's bound to be slop when slowed down...)
All in all, IMO, the best sounding alt picking comes from Gilbert, and the best sounding sweeps are done by ol' Gambale. They don't make the techniques sound robotic and exercise-like – it actually sounds like good musical expression in their phrasing.
Freepower
02-01-2008, 04:17 PM
I reckon if put in a contest (not that it needs to be done; just a childish vision here!) to measure pure alt picking, Gilbert would absolutely run rings around everyone. Batio, Petrucci, Cooley, Yngwie... the lot of 'em.
I've never seen such clean, efficient and economic picking motion from anyone else except Lane. Regardless of any nps 'facts' being thrown around, to me he's simply the fastest player alive. And I can't believe I'll be seeing him live in May!
For fast and clean sweeps though, I think it'd be a close call between Cooley, Batio and Gambale. I won't even count Fareri, since his tone is so horrendous that you can barely hear any clarity in his notes (plus he spazzes out, so it's bound to be slop when slowed down...)
All in all, IMO, the best sounding alt picking comes from Gilbert, and the best sounding sweeps are done by ol' Gambale. They don't make the techniques sound robotic and exercise-like – it actually sounds like good musical expression in their phrasing.
I like some of rusty's really chunky sounding sweeps, though gabale sounds far better on an acoustic methinks.
DaFjory
02-01-2008, 04:34 PM
Bah, I always get Random Shred and Fastest Guitarists mixed up...
(In any case, I once recorded myself trem picking 19nps. I feel really ashamed listening to that steaming, sloppy pile of turd nearly two years on. :eek: )
really? i think gambale's great, but some of the live videos on youtube it sounds like he struggles a little bit with faster sweeps.
Evil_Magician
02-01-2008, 06:56 PM
Anyone here got "Adventures of Bumblefoot" ?
I've only seen it on ebay for ridiculous prices but i realy wanna have it.
Anyone that owns a copy, please PM me :(
then it's all sloppy and crap. and when people usually talk about guitar skills, one of the first things they ask is can you do sweeps? what's the obsession with sweeps?
It's a status thing. A lot of guitarists have set sweeping on a pedestal and thus envision in a kind of holy light. Frankly, to a lot of people, the whole concept of sweeping represents a technical hurdle and a new degree of finger dexterity and I wouldn't condemn them for that view either, because they aren't too far from the truth. There are more difficult techniques out there such as string-skipping, or full blown touch playing, but sweeping separates itself from the other alternate-picking based techniques because it is not founded on a variant of that style. Rather, it is grounded more closely in chord strumming technique and that is a new and exciting idea to them.
I reckon if put in a contest (not that it needs to be done; just a childish vision here!) to measure pure alt picking, Gilbert would absolutely run rings around everyone. Batio, Petrucci, Cooley, Yngwie... the lot of 'em.
I've never seen such clean, efficient and economic picking motion from anyone else except Lane. Regardless of any nps 'facts' being thrown around, to me he's simply the fastest player alive. And I can't believe I'll be seeing him live in May!
For fast and clean sweeps though, I think it'd be a close call between Cooley, Batio and Gambale. I won't even count Fareri, since his tone is so horrendous that you can barely hear any clarity in his notes (plus he spazzes out, so it's bound to be slop when slowed down...)
All in all, IMO, the best sounding alt picking comes from Gilbert, and the best sounding sweeps are done by ol' Gambale. They don't make the techniques sound robotic and exercise-like – it actually sounds like good musical expression in their phrasing.
Ive yet to hear someone pick as fast as Gilbert and still maintain total control over dynamics, articulation, accents,pulse etc (and I know i may infuriate some by saying that this includes Shawn Lane). Seriously, people forget just how tight his playing is.
Im seeing him in May as well and having heard his new album, I cant frockin wait.
BrunoPoeys
02-02-2008, 02:07 AM
Ive yet to hear someone pick as fast as Gilbert and still maintain total control over dynamics, articulation, accents,pulse etc (and I know i may infuriate some by saying that this includes Shawn Lane). Seriously, people forget just how tight his playing is.
Im seeing him in May as well and having heard his new album, I cant frockin wait.
Govan, Lane or Thal? Ya, i know you mentioned lane already but i dont think gilbert's picking is any better than lane's. :)
Govan or Thal?? No way=remember im talking cleanliness and DYNAMICS here, not out and out speed, I also cannot stand Shawns fast picking.
The Virtuoso
02-02-2008, 03:36 PM
Govan
What about "IA"?
DaFjory
02-02-2008, 03:45 PM
Why does Matthias have the nickname IA, anyway? Does he play for Opeth...?
diminishedtobme
02-02-2008, 03:51 PM
^I never heard that he played for Opeth, but I do know he plays with Jonas Hellborg.
Amerikhastan
02-02-2008, 04:06 PM
Why does Matthias have the nickname IA, anyway? Does he play for Opeth...?
I think your confusing him with the bassist they had in the early 90's Mattias Ander.
DaFjory
02-02-2008, 04:14 PM
Eehh.. having read up, I think for some reason I confused his Swedish name with that of Mikael Åkerfeldt. Don't ask why!—my head just works like that sometimes. :p:
So is "IA" a shredder or something? Insane Arpeggios, perhaps...?
The Virtuoso
02-02-2008, 05:26 PM
Eehh.. having read up, I think for some reason I confused his Swedish name with that of Mikael Åkerfeldt. Don't ask why!—my head just works like that sometimes. :p:
So is "IA" a shredder or something? Insane Arpeggios, perhaps...?
Yes, a very, very unique shreddar. One of my favorites, check him out.
mattIAs. "The nickname Ia is, pure and simple, an abbreviation of Mattias." that's from his website.
on another note, IA doesn't really do a lot of fast picking does he? it's more modal arpeggios and harmonic squeals.
DaFjory
02-02-2008, 06:04 PM
Neato! Which album of his should I have a look at first? (downloaded, obviously – then if I like it, I buy straight away).
try his solo "Freak Guitar." the first song, apparatus, is just brilliant and there are a whole bunch of other really cool songs on it.
DaFjory
02-02-2008, 06:38 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. I've got it downloading now, but it'll take a few weeks to complete since I'm on dialup. :eek:
(But, as I said, if I like it enough I'll likely buy it.)
The Virtuoso
02-02-2008, 07:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c213ew-yl_o
The end is pretty awesome, enjoy!
Resiliance
02-02-2008, 07:46 PM
Govan
What about "IA"?
IA isn't that special technically, imo. Compared to the masters in their field anyway... Gambale for sweeping, Gilbert for picking, etc...
The Virtuoso
02-02-2008, 08:06 PM
IA isn't that special technically, imo. Compared to the masters in their field anyway... Gambale for sweeping, Gilbert for picking, etc...
Harmonics? :D
Monkey noises?
are heavy or light picks better for shred?
Amerikhastan
02-05-2008, 09:33 PM
are heavy or light picks better for shred?
Jazz III's
Resiliance
02-05-2008, 10:09 PM
Harmonics? :D
Monkey noises?
I'm not interested in all that wacko ****, but yeah, I guess so :p:
As for picks, heavy all the way.
Stratwizard
02-06-2008, 05:04 AM
Govan or Thal?? No way=remember im talking cleanliness and DYNAMICS here, not out and out speed, I also cannot stand Shawns fast picking.
Eh, I think Govan's picking is as clean as Gilbert's and his licks (at least to me) are a lot harder than most of the stuff Gilbert plays.
^ I agree that GG;s stuff tends to be harder to play---try Waves!!---but I often wonder if thats simply because Ive spent the last 2 years playing nowt but Gilbert stuff--Intense Rocks 1n2 and trying to learn the Racer X Catalogue---has simply made me more familiar with PGs style.
Sure, Rhode Island Shred is pretty tough fingering wise, but then really, so is Colorado Bulldog or BRO.
I have nothing but admiration for GG from a musical perspective, its just im not sure his technique is all its cracked up to be by some people. Sure, his phrasing is sublime, his ability at mimicking other instruments, coaxing harmonics from ANYWHERE etc etc but Ive watched a lot of videos--including the lick library stuff and he sometimes seems damn sloppy--Now I dont hold a rare moment of sloppiness against a player (like so many here often do) and Id still give anything to sit down a pick Guthries brain about music in general, I just dont think his playing has the same dynamic range and control as PG.
As far as the picking thing goes Ive obviously left out the Manouche style players--Lagrene and Stephan et al--who belong in the jazz section and quite frankly would eat Lane and co for breakfast when it comes to clean, articulated playing.
Resiliance
02-06-2008, 08:54 AM
As far as the picking thing goes Ive obviously left out the Manouche style players--Lagrene and Stephan et al--who belong in the jazz section and quite frankly would eat Lane and co for breakfast when it comes to clean, articulated playing.
I disagree. You can't compare. They don't have to control distortion and open string noise to quite the same degree.
^^Of course not and thats why I added them as an afterthought rather than the basis of my argument/discussion. And as far as controlling distortion and open string noise goes, then Shawn Lane is hardly the best example---Kotzen, MAB anyone?
public property
02-06-2008, 11:55 AM
mab isn't as clean as he's cracked up to be, his runs are usually mind numbingly simple patterns.
thefoldarsoldar
02-06-2008, 05:05 PM
Hey guys, I was just wondering, could any of you tell me (or better yet, show me) the difference in size between the standard Jazz IIIs and the Jazz III XLs?
mab isn't as clean as he's cracked up to be, his runs are usually mind numbingly simple patterns.
Whats that got to do with being clean? Ironically enough, the only time ive seen MAB make the odd mistake is when demonstrating an exercise at slow speed.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Km_iENRcVAk
one of MAB's older videos and he's a fair bit cleaner now, but the paganini's fifth section (i think that's what it is) is quite sloppy, and so are some of the other alternate picked sections near the start.
Resiliance
02-06-2008, 09:38 PM
^^Of course not and thats why I added them as an afterthought rather than the basis of my argument/discussion. And as far as controlling distortion and open string noise goes, then Shawn Lane is hardly the best example---Kotzen, MAB anyone?
I didn't say Shawn Lane was a good example either though :p:
Actually, I think Guthrie can't easily be topped when it comes to controlling string noise during all the insane **** he does (yes, I know he occasionally uses a hairband).
public property
02-07-2008, 03:11 AM
Whats that got to do with being clean? Ironically enough, the only time ive seen MAB make the odd mistake is when demonstrating an exercise at slow speed.
I just mean he is sometimes a little sloppy with his playing and if he is sloppy with simple patterns, he probably wouldn't stand up to alot of other players in more advanced runs.
I didn't say Shawn Lane was a good example either though :p:
Actually, I think Guthrie can't easily be topped when it comes to controlling string noise during all the insane **** he does (yes, I know he occasionally uses a hairband).
Screw the hairband, did you see the Tone Merchants vids? Rhode Island Shred is a great example of controlling string noise, as well as the multi finger tapping stuff he does--Fives?
In short, I know exactly what you mean and Im not dissing the guy in any way shape or form, I just dont find his picking anywhere near as exciting to listen to as Gilberts. Compositions, Improvs etc etc, hes up there with the best--Im assuming youve seen his Spain improv???--but Gilbert is the only player who consistently uses rapid picking and doesnt bore the hell out of me ( Steve Morse and John Petrucci are 2 players for whom the opposite is true)
Stratwizard
02-07-2008, 08:56 AM
I just dont find his picking anywhere near as exciting to listen to as Gilberts.
Funny, I disagree completely. :p: To me Gilbert's picking sounds like exercises (it's a problem with my picking too), whereas Guthrie's picking seems to flow better with the songs.
Sure and I agree sometimes with what you say--sometimes when Gilbert improvises I feel he resorts to his 'exercise' sound, but I think when he written a part out specifically--like some of his lines in TCOCD or Radiator---then his picking fits the song just as well as anything by GG. I still feel that Gilberts control of dynamics and articulation stops him from ever sounding TOO mechanical---again, I'll reference Petrucci, listen to the solo in As I Am-how boring can you get?
Boghead
02-07-2008, 08:21 PM
I dont find AS I AM boring at all............. well not the first 8 seconds or so anyway :P
yeah as i am sounds pretty MAB-ish at times, but the solo from stream of consciousness off that album is much better. the solos on train of thought aren't really that strong anyways. petrucci still also has some amazing solos, like the fatal tragedy solo. gilbert isn't without a few clonkers (YRO?) too.
The Virtuoso
02-07-2008, 10:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c213ew-yl_o
In the very beginning, what kind of amp would give me that type of distorted/lead tone/sound?
By the way, that outro is focking fun as hell to play!
Stratwizard
02-08-2008, 11:53 AM
Sounds like an American amp to me... Maybe Mesa Boogie or some other amp equipped with 6L6s.
Resiliance
02-08-2008, 12:31 PM
Sounds like a tone coming from a pod or some other kind of modelling gear to me.
The Virtuoso
02-08-2008, 06:42 PM
Sounds like a tone coming from a pod or some other kind of modelling gear to me.
Sounds like an American amp to me... Maybe Mesa Boogie or some other amp equipped with 6L6s.
:wtf:
Axegrinder#9
02-09-2008, 10:40 PM
you wonderful people owe it yourselves to watch this quite extraordinary and completely hilarious video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVdFVtoGl98
Resiliance
02-12-2008, 10:13 AM
you wonderful people owe it yourselves to watch this quite extraordinary and completely hilarious video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVdFVtoGl98
I had already seen that video. Ner-ner. (Michel Petrucciani is my favorite pianist)
:wtf:
I'm quite certain about it being a modeling thing. It has this naff digital sound I only associate with modelling gear.
Or well, it could always be a really bad amp :p:
Stratwizard
02-14-2008, 11:33 AM
Hmm... I wonder why John Petrucci gets an own thread but a Slash thread gets closed ... Can someone explain the logic behind this reasoning?
I had already seen that video. Ner-ner. (Michel Petrucciani is my favorite pianist)
As had I! although he isn't my favorite. (I hate to be cliche but Bill Evans is my go to guy for jazz pianism.)
The video is quite extraordinary, but what I don't understand is why it's hilarious 0_o.
Freepower
02-15-2008, 10:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zszbKC3Sq0w
Love this guy. Must get properly to work on his lessons from last summer. :o
Btw all, due to my full time job, got a new guitar - got a discontinued model of the Schecter 007 elite, punches well above its weight at full price, i got mine at half, and on top of which, i got a sexier finish and all. I'll post pics whenever i'm actually online and have a camera and guitar handy. Never. :p:
The Virtuoso
02-16-2008, 01:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zszbKC3Sq0w
Love this guy. Must get properly to work on his lessons from last summer. :o
Btw all, due to my full time job, got a new guitar - got a discontinued model of the Schecter 007 elite, punches well above its weight at full price, i got mine at half, and on top of which, i got a sexier finish and all. I'll post pics whenever i'm actually online and have a camera and guitar handy. Never. :p:
Sweet man.
Schecter guitars are great man. I have one myself and all the others I have played are pretty damn good for the price.
eviledge87
02-16-2008, 12:51 PM
I got one of Guthrie Govan's intructional books this week. Creative Guitar 2. It's amazing. It covers everything. Alternate picking, sweep picking, legato, hybrid picking, tapping, and a bunch of other stuff. This book should be required reading for anyone who considers him/herself to be a better than average guitarist.
CJRocker
02-18-2008, 02:42 PM
I got one of Guthrie Govan's intructional books this week. Creative Guitar 2. It's amazing. It covers everything. Alternate picking, sweep picking, legato, hybrid picking, tapping, and a bunch of other stuff. This book should be required reading for anyone who considers him/herself to be a better than average guitarist.
So did I man! I bought both of his when I picked up my Epi. I love his writing style, and they are very well written books.
eviledge87
02-20-2008, 10:30 AM
The section on 8-finger tapping is particularly helpful, although there's only one lick that actually uses all 8 fingers, and it's just random chromatics.
Freepower
02-22-2008, 11:18 AM
Sweet man.
Schecter guitars are great man. I have one myself and all the others I have played are pretty damn good for the price.
I got one of the old Elites as well, quilted maple top! :D
And from now on,"brutal" shall be spelled "EEADGBE". :p:
The Virtuoso
02-22-2008, 06:28 PM
I got one of the old Elites as well, quilted maple top! :D
And from now on,"brutal" shall be spelled "EEADGBE". :p:
Sweet, mine is a C-1+.
Haha, sounds interesting :peace: .
The Virtuoso
02-24-2008, 06:48 AM
Sorry for the double but check this guy out!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Jsnmcd
:wtf: helman ri doesn't sound like **** in this video!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_uLXu4Zjpu4
this is the namm 2008 video. he actually sounds pretty decent for once. what little i could hear of gilbert's solo still smoked his though :P
public property
02-26-2008, 04:49 AM
He probably wasn't drunk there, but the solo was still pretty meh, not really up to the standards of the other guys.
Stratwizard
02-26-2008, 09:44 AM
Li had a great performance and it was entertaining to watch. The wanker on the left bored the **** out of me. Satch... meh. Gilbert had a cool guitar. :cool: Do they ever get tired to jamming on Hendrix tunes and what's up with the annoying ****ers writing the comments in Spanish on youtube?
johnny_tapia
02-26-2008, 10:24 AM
Li had a great performance and it was entertaining to watch. The wanker on the left bored the **** out of me.
I agree. Who was that wanker? :p:
Stratwizard
02-26-2008, 10:29 AM
I don't know but if he had kept doing that wanking for a few more seconds, his guitar would've ejaculated on Herman Li's face.
johnny_tapia
02-26-2008, 10:30 AM
I don't know but if he had kept doing that wanking for a few more seconds, his guitar would've ejaculated on Herman Li's face.
:haha
Resiliance
02-26-2008, 02:33 PM
Doesn't sound like ****?
I beg to differ.
DaFjory
02-26-2008, 04:16 PM
What do you reckon, people – is Tony MacAlpine's 'Eyes Of The World' album hard rock or heavy metal? I'm having a hard time labelling the genre of that one (since everything else of his falls plainly under instrumental rock). Also, does 'Project: Driver' count as a T-Mac album, or should I keep the M.A.R.S. title? I'd rather have all of his stuff in one folder...
(Yeah, I'm just fussy that way when it comes to organising my stuff.)
resi: ok, it doesn't sound super sloppy, how's that? :p:
calebrocker
02-26-2008, 05:56 PM
greg howe is amazing. his phrasing, his tone, wow.
DaFjory
02-28-2008, 02:48 PM
Man, people go on about Batio being cold and having no "feeling"... have they even heard Chris Impellitteri play?! I don't think I've ever heard so many meaningless runs played in an album ('Stand In Line'). It's just "widdle-widdle-widdle brrrt-brrrt-brrrt weeeeeoooooaaaawwww" in between each chorus. Now that's unemotional playing.
(I still love the album, though. Good 80s metal.)
---
In this vid, at 00:20, Lane does this really sick noise...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OL-BiQixVno
... but what is it? I'm assuming (by the position of his fretting hand) a natural harmonic, whammyed, and totally drenched in all manner of effects – reverb, delay, room echo? Something else is creating that totally wild, screaming sound he gets before he gives it the whammy. I know that ain't no normal pinch harmonic. And I want his gear, dammit!! ... or at least something accessible that would come close. I'd pay any price.
ibason
03-01-2008, 08:12 PM
I'm not a Herman Li fan at all, but the whole picking the guitar up by the whammy, dropping it on his knee and spinning around was pretty cool.
johnny_tapia
03-01-2008, 08:15 PM
I'm not a Herman Li fan at all, but the whole picking the guitar up by the whammy, dropping it on his knee and spinning around was pretty cool.
+1
Oddsbodkins
03-02-2008, 12:20 PM
:wtf: helman ri doesn't sound like **** in this video!
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Probably 'cause he's being backed up by a decent band for a change
Freepower
03-03-2008, 06:06 AM
In this vid, at 00:20, Lane does this really sick noise...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OL-BiQixVno
... but what is it? I'm assuming (by the position of his fretting hand) a natural harmonic, whammyed, and totally drenched in all manner of effects – reverb, delay, room echo? Something else is creating that totally wild, screaming sound he gets before he gives it the whammy. I know that ain't no normal pinch harmonic. And I want his gear, dammit!! ... or at least something accessible that would come close. I'd pay any price.
Which noise? The one where he misses the double stop and hits and whammys only the low note (i think its this one), or the one where he hits a bent double stop and whammys the mofo? Theres piles of delay on both.
DaFjory
03-03-2008, 07:16 AM
^ It's this one, which comes in at exactly 00:22: http://rapidshare.de/files/38731117/lane_weow.mp3.html
I would've tried describing it more, but I'm terrible at guitar noise impressions – especially typed ones! :p:
waylay00
03-03-2008, 10:04 PM
Hey guys, been a while since I've been around these parts. How's everyone doing? I hope to get posting more frequently around here.
Anyways, I recently had the chance to sit-in with my dad's fraternity bud Bill Oliver (who was Shawn Lane's best friend...he has tons of unseen Shawn tapes). My dad used to jam with Bill and Shawn back when Shawn was a teenager with Black Oak Arkansas.
Anyways, here are some videos. Just thought I'd share. I'm the guy in the middle, and Bill is the guy on the right.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=72uSqJ6ixTI (lol, my attempt at a shred solo starts around :45)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8HuVHfuC1Xk&feature=related
The Virtuoso
03-07-2008, 12:31 AM
http://www.triplecrownclothing.com/becker.html
Have any of you ever ordered a Jason Becker shirt? My mom is paranoid about ordering off the internet so yeah...It's legit right?
Freepower
03-07-2008, 10:43 AM
Hey guys, been a while since I've been around these parts. How's everyone doing? I hope to get posting more frequently around here.
Anyways, I recently had the chance to sit-in with my dad's fraternity bud Bill Oliver (who was Shawn Lane's best friend...he has tons of unseen Shawn tapes). My dad used to jam with Bill and Shawn back when Shawn was a teenager with Black Oak Arkansas.
Anyways, here are some videos. Just thought I'd share. I'm the guy in the middle, and Bill is the guy on the right.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=72uSqJ6ixTI (lol, my attempt at a shred solo starts around :45)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8HuVHfuC1Xk&feature=related
That's some very nice playing going on. Cleaner and better phrased than 9/10 of the peeps i know. :)
lit1219
03-07-2008, 01:16 PM
Yeah that is very good man!
DaFjory
03-14-2008, 02:17 PM
Why has every pro guitarist ditched that sweet delay/reverb tone from the '80s? I know some say it's when artists "evolve", but I don't care. I want that wash of effects again like the old days! Did they get bored of it or something? They all got bored at the same time and never went back since? Booooo, says I.
Case in point is Gilbert – his tone is now so dry and lifeless that I can't listen to his slower playing for more than 10 minutes. After that, I get bored and go straight back to my '80s guys (not necessarily for the shred) with their arena-style reverb and gorgeous, rich delay.
I want those notes to echo, sing and swirl around my ears. Now they just thud, clunk and "woop" (typical neck pickup tone), with no character to them whatsoever. Shitloads of delay and reverb are what makes good tone IMO. If I hear a solo without that, it just doesn't captivate me as much as one of those lush solos from the '80s.
Stratwizard
03-14-2008, 02:25 PM
Nice dry tube distortion with maybe a little bit of delay is what I like the most. Having ****loads of reverb and delay kinda masks the tone IMO.
Resiliance
03-14-2008, 05:59 PM
Ugh, ****loads of delay and reverb. Piss off.
A good tone is all I want. Not a bad one that's masked!
And... Dude... Gilbert's early nineties tone is the epitome of dry tube tone. Lots of delay and reverb? What?!
Also, I don't like his tone that much either anymore. Not because it's dry, but because it sucks. It also just happens to be dry. Those do not correlate :p:
DaFjory
03-14-2008, 07:13 PM
Muh. Whether it's "masking" bad tone or not, I practically wet myself over stuff like this; especially at 00:26...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2t4S1uYvinY
(No, not his leather trousers – the tone!)
Seriously, what's not to like? Am I really the only living human on this planet who still yearns for gorgeous delay and reverb like that? Sad state of affairs indeed.
... For you lot. ;)
public property
03-15-2008, 08:27 AM
There isn't really much delay / reverb on there really :S
DaFjory
03-15-2008, 03:37 PM
No? How are those notes echoing and swirling around like no tomorrow, then...?
Resiliance
03-15-2008, 10:40 PM
No? How are those notes echoing and swirling around like no tomorrow, then...?
They're echoing and swirling around? :confused:
There's vibrato, yes... That's about all I can hear apart from the obvious slight delay...
DaFjory
03-16-2008, 04:30 PM
Alright, maybe not swirling around with delay (I listened to it a few more times and realised that my ears were playing tricks on me), but there's definitely a fair bit of reverb in that tone. It can't just be because of the room he's in...
splice
03-18-2008, 08:14 PM
Not too crazy about the tone. Didn't quite cut enough for my tastes. But the pants, ah the pants. They made that video.
Hidde
03-18-2008, 08:38 PM
So I recently realized that I'm no good at improvising. I know my scales but when someone is playing a chord progression or riff I have no idea what to do next.
The question is, what should I do? I was thinking that I should learn about tensions and really understand what different intervals sound like over various chords.
Resiliance
03-18-2008, 09:30 PM
So I recently realized that I'm no good at improvising. I know my scales but when someone is playing a chord progression or riff I have no idea what to do next.
The question is, what should I do? I was thinking that I should learn about tensions and really understand what different intervals sound like over various chords.
Go watch Melodic Phrasing by Scott Henderson first.
Hidde
03-18-2008, 11:20 PM
Will do.
public property
03-19-2008, 05:21 AM
You can learn all you want, but getting in some solid time over your chords is what will add it to your playing. So take say, a 9 chord and just play every imaginable interval over it, even if its a G9, play Bb and Eb, just to see where it takes you.Think in blues, jazz or any style you're trying to express and think what sounds they get, then try and copy it on the guitar. You have scale knowledge so the notes they play aren't a mystery, its just the application, which is what you'll probably want to practice.
DaFjory
03-19-2008, 06:21 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAAA...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ln2VLxNdIxM
Now I've seen it all. YouTube sure does provide good free comedy.
The Virtuoso
03-19-2008, 08:26 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAAA...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ln2VLxNdIxM
Now I've seen it all. YouTube sure does provide good free comedy.
:haha :haha
At least he tried.
johnny_tapia
03-20-2008, 10:47 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAAA...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ln2VLxNdIxM
Now I've seen it all. YouTube sure does provide good free comedy.
"my biggest inspiration is michael angelo batio" :(
Stratwizard
03-20-2008, 10:53 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAAA...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ln2VLxNdIxM
Now I've seen it all. YouTube sure does provide good free comedy.
I don't quite see what's so funny there...
public property
03-20-2008, 11:46 AM
as terrible as the sound quality was it at least sounded like he was on the right track.
The left hand sounded fine anyway and from what I saw he wasn't using string dampeners.
DaFjory
03-20-2008, 12:00 PM
Things I found funny – a) he looks like a twat, b) his playing sucked, c) should've used hairbands as dampeners, d) went on for too long, e) everything else.
Ah come on. Go with me on this, you uptight bell-ends. :p:
splice
03-21-2008, 07:00 PM
Pretty bad, but I'll give the kid a break. If you asked me to do that right now I couldn't, and probably couldn't after a few days. "Smoke on The Water" hurt my insides though. Seems that he is really trying to do what all 15 year old kids are doing, get laid.
Stratwizard
03-26-2008, 02:53 PM
He's not going to get laid with that face, no matter what he does. Well, maybe with a help of chloroform.
Freepower
03-26-2008, 07:01 PM
^ my first time was with Chloe. MMmmmmmHmmmm!
public property
03-27-2008, 06:08 AM
Who was he?:P
Beckerism
03-28-2008, 02:11 AM
http://www.petrucciforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=678806&posted=1#post678806
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FQj_YL21yZc&feature=related
C3 is on my radar. :p:
Stratwizard
03-28-2008, 11:06 AM
Holy ****! Looks I'm going to London...
Yeah, and that Britney's song was awesome! :cool:
sock_demon
03-28-2008, 02:01 PM
Anybody can recommend some good cooley songs?
I'm listening to Under the Influence right now and I like that simple intro riff.
TheShred201
03-28-2008, 05:51 PM
All of them!
Seriously, it kind of depends what you want.
UTI (you've heard it, so you know what it sounds like).
The Butcher: This is basically him going all out, shredding as much as he can.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rt12iVh4h_U Watch from 10:53-12:45 for parts of The Butcher.
Dark Matter: This is a bit more of a melodic piece, compared to most of the stuff on his album. When listening to his album, it was the one that initially struck me as my favorite. The Guitar Pro on this site by Buckethead_jr isn't perfect, but it should give you the basic idea.
Dominion: This one never really stood out to me. You can hear a lot of Neo-Classical influence in this. For some reason, this piece in particular reminds me of the 80's O_o....
EBE: This has a lot more of a metal feel to it. It's one of my other preferred tracks. At one point, everything drops out but piano and some insane alt. picking guitar, and for some reason I love that part.
Hillbilly Militia: This one isn't on my favorites. It's mostly based around rhthym playing, with a strong "Southern" influence in it. It's got a lot of cool legato though.
Jazzmines Song: This one also kind of reminds me of the 80's, but differently. It's got somewhat of a happy vibe to it. It's also more melodic and less all out shreddy than his other stuff, and more pentatonic based than Neo-Classical.
War Of The Angels: This is also on my favorites. It combines the Neo Classical and Metal feels a lot. Lot's of shred in it, but imo. it fits.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dFokN5SwcHk
The Duel: This is a pretty cool track. There's a god guitar pro of it on this site to give the general Idea. It has lot's of tradeoff solos between the Keyboards and guitar, but it's got some good stuff.
Piece Of Mind: This is another metalish Neo-Classical Piece. It's a bit repetitive though.
Overal, My top tracks are (not in order):
War Of The Angels
E.B.E.
Dark Matter
The Butcher
Here's What Rusty Says about each track:
Under the Influence
This is an obvious one. I’m paying tribute to three of my biggest influences Malmsteen, Gilbert and Becker while adding my own twist. One of the parts for this song was written in the early 90’s and finally found it’s home in this song and some of the parts where written in guitar lessons when I was giving examples to students demostrating certain techniques. I come up with some of my best stuff in lessons.
The Butcher
This was originally a vocal tune written in my old band Dominion. I had come up with the parts right before quitting Revolution. Old stuff man. When I went solo I turned it into an instrumental. The idea behind the instrumental version is non-stop ass kicking from beginning to end. This was the hardest tune for me to keep up with.
Dark Matter
This is a more moody piece. Odd time, modal interchange, nice chord inversions, wide intervallic arps, tapping sweeping, alternate picking etc. It’s also the only place on the cd you kind of get to hear me play slow.
Dominion
Also written in the band Dominion as a vocal tune. I had the framework for this song while I was still in Revolution. This was the first instrumental that I finished.
E.B.E. (Extraterrestrial Biological Entity)
This is a good metal tune. It was supposed to be kind of laid back, but nothing ever ends that way after I get going. Also, this was something that I came up with in Revolution never got around to writing vocals to it in Dominion so this was prime candidate for an instrumental.
Hillbilly Militia
A rhythm instrumental, I always wanted to write killer rhythm guitar parts with insane fills. Also, a cool polyrhythm section in the middle. This tune is redneck meets industrial! During live shows we would all put on old straw hats and the bass player would yell redneck phrases during the breaks like Yeah haw and make the sound like some spitting in a spittoon.
Jazzmine's Song
I had the sections for this song lying around for a while. Right after Jazzmine was born I was playing my guitar and poof it all fell in place. Another interesting tidbit of info is the pentatonic riff that I play is the very first thing I ever played over those changes. I have never done that before. I usually have to work on it for a while before I find something I like. There is also a little bit of slow playing on this tune.
War of the Angels
This is my first epic instrumental a little over 7 minutes long. Neo-classical phrases and extreme shredding. This song was going to be called “Sonic Biscuit” but a friend of mine said it deserved a better name. So I came up with the name after watching The Prophesy.
The Duel
This was the very first instrumental that I ever wrote; it was back in 1990. This tune wasn’t supposed to be on the CD but after my keyboardist heard it he said man we have to re-do this one. We made some minor changes doubled all of the melody lines and did some intense trade off solo’s.
Piece of Mind
This one is something that I didn’t take serious at all. I was just kind of goofing around one day and my wife heard it and said that I needed to do something with that one so I did.
DaFjory
03-28-2008, 08:47 PM
There's nothing about Cooley I particularly like (horrible tone like Fareri's, boring phrasing, too much speed, etc.), BUT – I do like Dominion. Those sweeps sound awesome. I love he makes a proper riff/melody out of them, instead of just chucking them randomly into a solo. Really gets my air guitar fingers moving whenever I listen to it! :D
Holy ****! Looks I'm going to London...
Yeah, and that Britney's song was awesome! :cool:
My GF's dad is very high up the personnel ranks at Excel London---maybe a backstage pass for me!!!
The Virtuoso
03-29-2008, 01:32 AM
All of them!
Seriously, it kind of depends what you want.
UTI (you've heard it, so you know what it sounds like).
The Butcher: This is basically him going all out, shredding as much as he can.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rt12iVh4h_U Watch from 10:53-12:45 for parts of The Butcher.
Dark Matter: This is a bit more of a melodic piece, compared to most of the stuff on his album. When listening to his album, it was the one that initially struck me as my favorite. The Guitar Pro on this site by Buckethead_jr isn't perfect, but it should give you the basic idea.
Dominion: This one never really stood out to me. You can hear a lot of Neo-Classical influence in this. For some reason, this piece in particular reminds me of the 80's O_o....
EBE: This has a lot more of a metal feel to it. It's one of my other preferred tracks. At one point, everything drops out but piano and some insane alt. picking guitar, and for some reason I love that part.
Hillbilly Militia: This one isn't on my favorites. It's mostly based around rhthym playing, with a strong "Southern" influence in it. It's got a lot of cool legato though.
Jazzmines Song: This one also kind of reminds me of the 80's, but differently. It's got somewhat of a happy vibe to it. It's also more melodic and less all out shreddy than his other stuff, and more pentatonic based than Neo-Classical.
War Of The Angels: This is also on my favorites. It combines the Neo Classical and Metal feels a lot. Lot's of shred in it, but imo. it fits.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dFokN5SwcHk
The Duel: This is a pretty cool track. There's a god guitar pro of it on this site to give the general Idea. It has lot's of tradeoff solos between the Keyboards and guitar, but it's got some good stuff.
Piece Of Mind: This is another metalish Neo-Classical Piece. It's a bit repetitive though.
Overal, My top tracks are (not in order):
War Of The Angels
E.B.E.
Dark Matter
The Butcher
Here's What Rusty Says about each track:
Under the Influence
This is an obvious one. I’m paying tribute to three of my biggest influences Malmsteen, Gilbert and Becker while adding my own twist. One of the parts for this song was written in the early 90’s and finally found it’s home in this song and some of the parts where written in guitar lessons when I was giving examples to students demostrating certain techniques. I come up with some of my best stuff in lessons.
The Butcher
This was originally a vocal tune written in my old band Dominion. I had come up with the parts right before quitting Revolution. Old stuff man. When I went solo I turned it into an instrumental. The idea behind the instrumental version is non-stop ass kicking from beginning to end. This was the hardest tune for me to keep up with.
Dark Matter
This is a more moody piece. Odd time, modal interchange, nice chord inversions, wide intervallic arps, tapping sweeping, alternate picking etc. It’s also the only place on the cd you kind of get to hear me play slow.
Dominion
Also written in the band Dominion as a vocal tune. I had the framework for this song while I was still in Revolution. This was the first instrumental that I finished.
E.B.E. (Extraterrestrial Biological Entity)
This is a good metal tune. It was supposed to be kind of laid back, but nothing ever ends that way after I get going. Also, this was something that I came up with in Revolution never got around to writing vocals to it in Dominion so this was prime candidate for an instrumental.
Hillbilly Militia
A rhythm instrumental, I always wanted to write killer rhythm guitar parts with insane fills. Also, a cool polyrhythm section in the middle. This tune is redneck meets industrial! During live shows we would all put on old straw hats and the bass player would yell redneck phrases during the breaks like Yeah haw and make the sound like some spitting in a spittoon.
Jazzmine's Song
I had the sections for this song lying around for a while. Right after Jazzmine was born I was playing my guitar and poof it all fell in place. Another interesting tidbit of info is the pentatonic riff that I play is the very first thing I ever played over those changes. I have never done that before. I usually have to work on it for a while before I find something I like. There is also a little bit of slow playing on this tune.
War of the Angels
This is my first epic instrumental a little over 7 minutes long. Neo-classical phrases and extreme shredding. This song was going to be called “Sonic Biscuit” but a friend of mine said it deserved a better name. So I came up with the name after watching The Prophesy.
The Duel
This was the very first instrumental that I ever wrote; it was back in 1990. This tune wasn’t supposed to be on the CD but after my keyboardist heard it he said man we have to re-do this one. We made some minor changes doubled all of the melody lines and did some intense trade off solo’s.
Piece of Mind
This one is something that I didn’t take serious at all. I was just kind of goofing around one day and my wife heard it and said that I needed to do something with that one so I did.
Those are all off of Outworld right?
TheShred201
03-29-2008, 01:34 AM
No, do you want me to do a song by song description of Outworld?
Those are off his Self Titled album. He also played on Book Of Reflections.
The Virtuoso
03-29-2008, 01:53 AM
No, do you want me to do a song by song description of Outworld?
Those are off his Self Titled album. He also played on Book Of Reflections.
If you want.
Hmm, do you have his self titled album? I'm thinking about getting it because I really like some of his stuff like War of the Angels.
Book of Reflections?
TheShred201
03-29-2008, 03:30 AM
I have The self titled and Outworld, but not BOR, which I believe is another band he played with.
The Virtuoso
03-29-2008, 05:30 AM
I have The self titled and Outworld, but not BOR, which I believe is another band he played with.
So, are they worth it?
Like I said I really like some of his stuff, he has potential to be great.
TheShred201
03-29-2008, 05:47 AM
I say yes, but as you can tell, some people like his stuff and some dont. Theres some videos of outworld on youtube, though they had a different vocalist for the recording...not many videos of songs from his solo album though.
The Virtuoso
03-31-2008, 06:00 AM
Yeah, it sucks that they don't have much on him considering his reputation haha. I'll try to get a hold of his stuff, but argh, I've got so many things I need/want to get.
TheShred201
03-31-2008, 10:48 PM
They have all three of those albums on itunes.
eviledge87
04-11-2008, 12:25 PM
For a cd that is almost constant shredding, i thought the phrasing and melodic concepts on Rusty Cooley: Rusty Cooley are really good and really interesting to listen too.
Night_Lights
04-12-2008, 04:48 AM
any Takayoshi Ohmura fans here?
I personally find him the best alt picker i've seen.
XTheAlchemistX
04-12-2008, 08:17 PM
dude satch is great and so is petrucii
Stratwizard
04-13-2008, 03:43 AM
Terry Lee Brown Junior ftw!
White_Devil
04-14-2008, 03:55 AM
any Takayoshi Ohmura fans here?
I personally find him the best alt picker i've seen.
Wow. I just watched a couple youtube videos then. His alternate picking is amazing, so effortless and smooth.
Stratwizard
04-14-2008, 04:47 AM
I did a house-y remix of Panama, check it out if ya got time! http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?p=13792467
insideac
04-18-2008, 03:08 PM
hai guise! :)
duggyrocks
04-18-2008, 05:03 PM
Hi!
Quick Q. I'm leaving my RG570 in tomorrow for a setup. I want to move from D'addarios .09s to any brand of .10s and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Elixir .10s for shreddin. Cheers
insideac
04-18-2008, 05:11 PM
I used to use those back in the day, they feel really nice :heart: I like them alot more than D'addarios because they feel alot smoother and lighter on my fingers but are still nice and strong, and I think they last longer too, IMO.
Resiliance
04-18-2008, 05:43 PM
hai guise! :)
Wha... Whaat? :eek:
public property
04-18-2008, 08:02 PM
Hi!
Quick Q. I'm leaving my RG570 in tomorrow for a setup. I want to move from D'addarios .09s to any brand of .10s and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Elixir .10s for shreddin. Cheers
elixirs are sort of gimmicky, the actual string lasts longer, but in the end it gets so covered with dirt and mould that your guitar sounds like that nylon string one that your brother has had for like 9 years and never restrung, yeah you know the one.
insideac
04-19-2008, 02:50 AM
Wha... Whaat? :eek:
Resiliance! Hi!!! :heart: Whats up!?
Axegrinder#9
04-20-2008, 01:19 PM
Stop that metronome, and light up a phatty...
Happy 4/20 n00bs :p:
insideac
04-21-2008, 03:55 PM
Im retreating here guys.
Phill-Rock
04-25-2008, 03:33 PM
I hope you lot can shred faster than your chat thread moves. ;)
insideac
04-25-2008, 03:56 PM
Me? :haha I have a chat thread?! :haha It moves faster than I can play, Im sorry :(
Phill-Rock
04-25-2008, 03:59 PM
I meant in general.
Not everything's about you Alonso. ;)
Though you actually did have the Cody and insideac chat thread...
insideac
04-25-2008, 04:00 PM
Well you said your :p: - OH LOL You werent talking about the metal thread LMFAO you meant this one, LOL. I get it now, haha.
Hey guys, I have a question:
How fast do you have to be playing to be considered shredding? I have a song where i tap at 11.5 nps. Is that shred-worthy?
TheShred201
04-27-2008, 02:01 PM
Being able to shred is not about being able to do something at X NPS.
To be honest though, I assume you mean a three note per string tapped arpeggio, in which case 11.5Ns isn't that fast.
Being able to shred is not about being able to do something at X NPS.
To be honest though, I assume you mean a three note per string tapped arpeggio, in which case 11.5Ns isn't that fast.
S S S S S S S S S T T S S S S S S
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----------------------------------------------------------------|
--18p-11p-9h-11---------------21p-14p-13p-11h-------------------|
----------------19p-9h-11h-14-----------------14-21p-14p-11p-9h-|
----------------------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------------------|
S S S S S S S S S T T S S S S S S
----------------------------------------------------------------|
-------------------------------------------------19p-12h-14p-12-|
--18p-11p-9h-11---------------21p-14p-13p-11h-------------------|
----------------19p-9h-11h-14-----------------14----------------|
----------------------------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------------------------------|
this at 160bpm
i don't really do that whole arpeggio thing
TheShred201
04-27-2008, 07:18 PM
Arg, I don't remember the code for tab, but that's pretty jumbled to the point of not being able to tell what you are doing.....
My point remains though being able to play one lick fast doesn't make you a "shredder". Also, in my opinion, you shouldn't really care if something "is shred"
DaFjory
04-28-2008, 11:50 PM
w00t, I feel mighty proud. I just single-handedly created Wikipedia articles for all of Tony MacAlpine's studio albums. :)
Boghead
04-29-2008, 01:47 AM
* HI-5!
now you can get started on buckethead's :)
Godly Moose
05-07-2008, 09:16 PM
w00t, I feel mighty proud. I just single-handedly created Wikipedia articles for all of Tony MacAlpine's studio albums. :)
That was you? Kneeice job.
DaFjory
05-08-2008, 11:59 PM
Yip. I even did ones for Greg Howe and Frank Gambale – totally from scratch. Allan Holdsworth's next on the cards, but since I have 13 albums of his... it may take a little while.
mjkshreds
05-10-2008, 11:06 PM
i think I am a pretty good shredder. I like to play that neo classical metal all like Yngwie Malmsteen and paul gilbert,but also i like to do some tapping alot like Eddie Van Halen.
Avedas
05-11-2008, 01:54 AM
i think I am a pretty good shredder. I like to play that neo classical metal all like Yngwie Malmsteen and paul gilbert,but also i like to do some tapping alot like Eddie Van Halen.
His tapping is pretty simple.
Resiliance
05-11-2008, 06:36 AM
Yip. I even did ones for Greg Howe and Frank Gambale – totally from scratch. Allan Holdsworth's next on the cards, but since I have 13 albums of his... it may take a little while.
Extraction is a Greg Howe album, not a collaboration. It just happens to have Wooten and Chambers on there.
You can say any albums of his are collaborations if you're going that route ;)
Also, he has a new album coming out this year. Sound Proof. :)
Evil_Magician
05-11-2008, 01:56 PM
Hey guys.
Not realy shred but please check out anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnruiXLaxZ4
Mr.Scary - Dokken
DaFjory
05-11-2008, 03:27 PM
Extraction is a Greg Howe album, not a collaboration. It just happens to have Wooten and Chambers on there.
You can say any albums of his are collaborations if you're going that route ;)
Also, he has a new album coming out this year. Sound Proof. :)
Hmm. I don't own it myself (yet), but I guess I put it down as a collaboration because the album cover states all 3 musicians and not just Howe – i.e. Hellborg/Lane/Sipe, or Holdsworth/J. Johansson/A. Johansson. But I think I'll change it anyway... might look better contextually, since it seems to be a highly-regarded album.
I can't wait for Sound Proof, though! I only caught the news on his site earlier this week, and was ecstatic. His first proper solo album of new material for 8 years. :D
Resiliance
05-11-2008, 05:50 PM
Oh, get Extraction, besides Introspection it's my favorite by Howe.
Prophet of Page
05-11-2008, 07:17 PM
Extraction is fantastic.
Freepower
05-12-2008, 07:25 AM
Fastests guitarists list updated. Looks neater now. :)
gatpakermac
05-15-2008, 02:31 AM
hmm a PGM30s popped up somewhere that Im quite keen on getting. I know hes a feckin shredder from 'Nam but im trying to figure out if it will suffice my strummy, dream theatery, lovely-jazzy-chordsy clean tone desire as well as the shred side. whata u rekon?
Freepower
05-15-2008, 01:18 PM
http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/Freepower/blog/
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?p=14257963#post14257963
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbPk3Ca1gD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcxrBm8pOQM
(click on the pretty links)
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