** The Random Shred Chat Thread **

[MankiiKing]

Originally posted by wil
I do like shred mate, but im allowed to say what i dont likea rent i? I come up with a legitimate reason and you take it personally, come on then, name your favourite Holdsworth songs, or did you just read on here somewherre on one of the NPS obsessed sites that at one point he accidnetally hit 37 NPS and decide hes great?

I'll take a decent tune or riff opr speed anyday, I prefer players that tend to use a bit of emotion, giving their music character rather than seeing how many notes they can play.

You 'shredders' make me laugh becuase when a guitarist doesnt fill absolutley every bar with solid 32nd note runs, you call him/her sloppy.

You immature twats have got a lot to learn beofre you take the big steps from your bedroom to the outside world.

Bitch please?

You come in to the shred forum, and to the shred chat thread just to insult the people posting, act like a fanboy and an ass, and make opinionated statements like they were the truth.

We're immature?

Majority of the people on this forum are quite nice people, and there was no need for the insulting.

This repeated way too much around here, but a lot of shredders actually do have a lot of emotion in their songs(Vai, Satch for the most obvious example),and as Resiliance has pretty much said, the emotion is in the listener.

And it seems like you have no idea what sloppy means.

SLash isnt the best thing ever but dont tell me theres not an awful lot of people on here who dont instantly dimiss posts on 'lesser' shredders such as Slash with responses like ' Cooley owns Slash any day' or ' Shawn Lane could play Paradise City while he was still in his mothers womb' or ' Joe Stump can smoke any guitarist ever.'
Slash is not a shredder. He is an overrated guitarist.
Seriously, he is.
He has written a lot of great tunes, has that tone, and is overall good at what he does but so are a lot of other guitarists. I dont understand what makes everyone worship him so much. Maybe its the image, I really dont know.
If there's those people who base their opinions on technique and speed only, they're best to ignore. And there aren't many of them here really.

/rant :peace:

[John Kimble]

Originally posted by MankiiKing
Bitch please?

You come in to the shred forum, and to the shred chat thread just to insult the people posting, act like a fanboy and an ass, and make opinionated statements like they were the truth.

We're immature?

Majority of the people on this forum are quite nice people, and there was no need for the insulting.

This repeated way too much around here, but a lot of shredders actually do have a lot of emotion in their songs(Vai, Satch for the most obvious example),and as Resiliance has pretty much said, the emotion is in the listener.

And it seems like you have no idea what sloppy means.


Slash is not a shredder. He is an overrated guitarist.
Seriously, he is.
He has written a lot of great tunes, has that tone, and is overall good at what he does but so are a lot of other guitarists. I dont understand what makes everyone worship him so much. Maybe its the image, I really dont know.
If there's those people who base their opinions on technique and speed only, they're best to ignore. And there aren't many of them here really.

/rant :peace: :cheers:

[kyle_afi]

Originally posted by Dreadnought


Quick, everyone run to Home Depot, the Shed Madness sale is almost over!



:haha

[public property]

Can somebody say, got turned down? Don't come bitchin to us if your upset.

[wil]

Ouch, ouch, ouch.
If Slash wanted to, he is more than capable of SHREDDING, the actual technique of shredding MEANS nothing, learning how to play scales really fast means **** all if it isnt in context of a song.

You guys contradict yourself.

You quote your hero's mantra like philosophy like ' Anyone who is individual is a shredder, anyone who challenges the conventions and boundaries with uniques style is a shredder.'

In my book, that makes Slash a shredder, when everyone else at the time was tapping themselves into an early state of tendonitis, he took music back to the blues based playing, he combined elements of blues, punk rock and hair metal to make a unique sound- ASnd his technique is decent too- THATS why people think so much of him.
According to this, then the guitarist from New Order can be deemed a shredder, because his minimalist style is completely unique.
But then i think many of you guys disagree, so whats it to be?

I will give it you, Holdsworth has amazing technique, and the way he uses Coltrane and Davis style jazz voicings to his playing really is something else, a very recognisable player. To me, though Im nopt keen on the overall compositions.
This has notyhing to do with how much jAZz/ fusion i listen to, becuase belive me ive heard a lot, I like some, i dont like some.

I can admire the pioneers of thuis type of music, Vai, Satch, Malmsteen even John Petrucci, but all these no mark imitators on these word-of-mouth, pointless, widdly PROG albums or the Malmsteen imitating wannabes that are about as unique as New Found Glory's guitarist make me sick.

I dont care if Cooley or Romeo have spent three hours a day more on their sweep patterns and thus OWN Malmsteen or whatever, becuase theyre not original.
I agree that the emotion is in the listener, if someone LIKES a piece of music and it moves them then NO-ONE else can k nock it, even if they dont understand why, its all down to to taste.

But then again, I dont really listen to shred music to be moved, becuase hearing Malmsteen flying around, sounding like a trapped bumblebee doesnt really move me.

I prefer listening to singer songwriters to be MOVED, becuase in general, they are singing about things i can relate to. Having never FLOWN IN A BLUE DREAM, been FAR BEYOND THE SUN or been SURFING WITH AN ALIEN, i find it hard to relate to the music or empathise with the artist.

[public property]

slash isn't original, he just made catchy songs, and all those things he combined, its called rock fool, and he didn't start that, and to your previous post and your comment 'that sounds too smart for slash' well duh, of course he didn't realise what he was playing, cause hes not a theory buff, but its a three note pattern, not chromatics like you thought and since 9 is 3 3's its easy to make it fit.

Just shutup and get out of the shred forum, everyones just getting irritated by your immature remarks, we DON'T think guitarists all gods because of their technique, we discuss technique here, because its the shred forum, just because you admit to not being able to play chromatics at quarter notes at 180 dosen't mean nobody else can.
I'm sorry that you don't get moved by shred, but the top three songs on m list right now are tender surrender, altitudes, perpetual burn, the boy from seattle and kill the guy with the ball/the god eaters, you know why? because if you understand what the artist was trying to create then its damn easy to get sucked into the tune

[wil]

Uh,
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They look like chromatics to me.
Slash didnt create rock, and Steve Vai didnt create shred.

Youre not obsessed with speed? Check your signature mate.

I never said it sounds TOO smart for Slash, i said it sounds PREtty smart.

If you wont even read my posts then just f!ck off, your argument is flawed, you obviously dont like a discussion.

I listen to loads of shred, and it doesnt move me, sorry, i cant change that. I bet you Satch and Vai would give their left testicle to write a riff half as memorable as Slash's, Ok, he never really strays far from the pentatonic, but imagine a GnR song with a Lydian solo or a modal sequence traversing a load of keys, it would sound horrible.

I listen to Shred for inspiration, not to be emotionally moved.

I must admit, ive never tried to sit down with a metronome and play straight quarter notes at 180bpm, but then again, I can play a far amount of Satch, Vai and Malmsteen stuff, and I can play the Paradise Cuity outro so I guess i could do such a pointless and mind numbing exercise if the fancy too0k me.

[public property]

Nope those aren't chromatics, No i'm not obssesed with speed, I just like vai. And all of slashes riffs are boring and everyone guns and roses song sounds the same, in my opinion.
Got any more arguments? no, then shutup.

[wil]

Whats a chromatic then?
Am i just being stupid?

[Master Of Shred]

**Pickup question**

I dunno what neckpickup to buy for my Ibz SZ, I also have an RG 7 string and I play more heavier things on that one, I use the SZ for little bit softer things like timmons, reinhardt, di meola, mclauglin etc. good neckpickups for this kinda stuff ??

:cheers:

[John Kimble]

You are not getting it at all. We dont like shred because of the speed, we like it because WE LIKE THE SONGS. For The Love Of God means as much as Stairway To Heaven or whatever song means to you and its not because OMG IT HAS 903485 NPS SOLO, its because we like the ****ing song.

Sure slash COULD learn to play fast, but I doubt he could be anywhere near as melodic or creative as Vai.

I bet you Satch and Vai would give their left testicle to write a riff half as memorable as Slash's, Ok, he never really strays far from the pentatonic, but imagine a GnR song with a Lydian solo or a modal sequence traversing a load of keys, it would sound horrible.

Stupidest statement EVER.

Im sure a lydian solo would fit just fine on some of GNR's songs, it would just take a guitarist that has the capability to learn more than one scale.

You take your musical takes and make them out to be like they are TRUTH and not OPINION. Because you dont like Vai and whoever that much makes it IMPOSIBLE to think that somebody might like a Vai tune more than a GNR tune. Read what you type next time.

[wil]

I understand that people like Vai more than Gnr, normally anal, speed obsessed guitarists. If you are not one of these then i salute you.

[Master Of Shred]

I dont wanna bash slash, I respect him as a guitarist. But he doesnt know any theory, while Im pretty sure he would be way better if he knew something. And it's silly to too say that lydian wouldnt fit in a gnr song, slash would do his own thing with the lydian just like vai did his own thing with it. I dont care at all if you dont like shredders or something, thats just a matter of taste. But you can respect them, now you're just acting like an ass.

[Resiliance]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
**Pickup question**

I dunno what neckpickup to buy for my Ibz SZ, I also have an RG 7 string and I play more heavier things on that one, I use the SZ for little bit softer things like timmons, reinhardt, di meola, mclauglin etc. good neckpickups for this kinda stuff ??

:cheers:

Good old paf pro.

[Master Of Shred]

lol ( gibsongaywylded00d )

[wil]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
I dont wanna bash slash, I respect him as a guitarist. But he doesnt know any theory, while Im pretty sure he would be way better if he knew something. And it's silly to too say that lydian wouldnt fit in a gnr song, slash would do his own thing with the lydian just like vai did his own thing with it. I dont care at all if you dont like shredders or something, thats just a matter of taste. But you can respect them, now you're just acting like an ass.

I never said i dont like shredders, dont put words in my mouth and make me out to be a **** becuase it wont work.

Oh yeah, are they chromatics or arent they?

[Freepower]

Originally posted by wil
I bet you Satch and Vai would give their left testicle to write a riff half as memorable as Slash's,

Currently, i can remember 3 slash riffs/solo fills...

And then potato head groove thang, the extremist, flying in a blue dream, midnight and surfing with the alien from satch.

Vai, FTLOG...well, i dont listen to much/any vai. But at least he still has both his testicals. Unlike satch.

And i think you'll find none of us are speed obsessed when it actually comes to music. After all, my favourite band are muse. You'll find that although speed is often MENTIONED in relation to shredders and their technique, a lot will still prefer Vai, Satch, Malmsteen - whoever speaks to them, regardless of speed.

[wil]

ARE THEY CHROMATICS OR NOT BECAUSE IF NOT THEM IVE GONE SERIOUSLY WRONG SOMEWHERE!

[Master Of Shred]

yes they are chromatics

[Freepower]

Yes, they are.

MoS, you should add "And only played the low E string" to your sig. :cheers:

[pavan]

Originally posted by wil


I listen to loads of shred, and it doesnt move me, sorry, i cant change that. I bet you Satch and Vai would give their left testicle to write a riff half as memorable as Slash's, Ok, he never really strays far from the pentatonic, but imagine a GnR song with a Lydian solo or a modal sequence traversing a load of keys, it would sound horrible.


:haha:

I like Slash, but Slash can never, and I MEAN NEVER, even imagine that he can write an ethereal song like FTLOG, Whispering a Prayer or Flying In A Blue Dream. The only Slash riff that may be remembered 10 years from now is the Sweet Child O'Mine Intro.

Your contradicting yourself. You just did it when you mentioned that a lydian mode would sound horrible in a GNR song





Wil, shut the **** up and go to the classic rock forum where you are a big hero. I actually used to respect your views there. But now you're just going on and on. The last three or four pages have your incessant ranting. You dont seem to have a point. It seems to me that you just dont want to stop. Go to a chat room. You'll get replies much faster there. Dont waste your time here. If you dont like shred, you dont come to a shred forum and talk **** about it. We respect Slash for who he is, nothing more than that. We dont hero-worship here. Slash is not shred. This is the shred forum. If you are so intent on getting your ass burnt, why dont you go to the metal forum and start a thread stating that your hero Slash can easily pwn anyone ? Again, this is the RANDOM SHRED CHAT THREAD. Shred. Shred. not Slash. not Guns and Roses. Not Velvet Revolver. No Godfather themes. Shred Forum. S-H-R-E-D. If you dont like shred, well the government isnt forcing you to listen to it , is it? If people like speed and virtuoso guitaring, let them like it. You are not compelled to listen to it. You are not forced to learn a FTLOG or always with me always with you for your 6th grade exams.

Again, in case your used to making the same mistake all the time everyday of your life, this is the SHRED FORUM. Its not that your a noob. Your plain irritating. And if you think your so cool and can impress your 12 year old girlfriends, let me be the first to dissapoint you, your not cool.

Again, S - H - R - E - D

[wil]

Originally posted by pavan
:haha:

I like Slash, but Slash can never, and I MEAN NEVER, even imagine that he can write an ethereal song like FTLOG, Whispering a Prayer or Flying In A Blue Dream. The only Slash riff that may be remembered 10 years from now is the Sweet Child O'Mine Intro.

Your contradicting yourself. You just did it when you mentioned that a lydian mode would sound horrible in a GNR song





Wil, shut the **** up and go to the classic rock forum where you are a big hero. I actually used to respect your views there. But now you're just going on and on. The last three or four pages have your incessant ranting. You dont seem to have a point. It seems to me that you just dont want to stop. Go to a chat room. You'll get replies much faster there. Dont waste your time here. If you dont like shred, you dont come to a shred forum and talk **** about it. We respect Slash for who he is, nothing more than that. We dont hero-worship here. Slash is not shred. This is the shred forum. If you are so intent on getting your ass burnt, why dont you go to the metal forum and start a thread stating that your hero Slash can easily pwn anyone ? Again, this is the RANDOM SHRED CHAT THREAD. Shred. Shred. not Slash. not Guns and Roses. Not Velvet Revolver. No Godfather themes. Shred Forum. S-H-R-E-D. If you dont like shred, well the government isnt forcing you to listen to it , is it? If people like speed and virtuoso guitaring, let them like it. You are not compelled to listen to it. You are not forced to learn a FTLOG or always with me always with you for your 6th grade exams.

Again, in case your used to making the same mistake all the time everyday of your life, this is the SHRED FORUM. Its not that your a noob. Your plain irritating. And if you think your so cool and can impress your 12 year old girlfriends, let me be the first to dissapoint you, your not cool.

Again, S - H - R - E - D

Thats getting a bit personal mate, you dont know me so **** off, its all well and good taking the piss out of me on a website, but if we were in a pub and youd just said that to me, id break your ****ing nose.

Oh, your dmusic stuff sucks too, i could play better with one hand, and when i finally get Cakewalk Home studio ill prove it- You guys seem to think that just becuase you worshiop Steve Vai, that that automatically makes you a shredder- It doesnt, the only people whose Dmusic stuff ive been at all impressed by- and no im not ass kissing- are Resiliance and Master of Shred.

[pavan]

It seems that your looking for a fight. Why dont you go to a pub and beat up some random person there? You need to let go of all the agression within. I really didnt mean to even start an argument with you, but you keep typing the same crap page after page after page after page.

Anyways, I think I should ignore all the random bull**** here. It is after all, the random ( something ) chat thread.

But one word of advise, if you go to a Rome and diss Romans continously till you piss them off , you'd end up with a broken nose.

edit : Thanks for listening to my stuff, its always nice to hear from the fans. And I never said I could play better than you, no, no, i didnt even mention it.

All said and done, I dont wish to continue this stupid argument, you seem lost in a lost world.

[pavan]

Originally posted by wil
Thats getting a bit personal mate, you dont know me so **** off, its all well and good taking the piss out of me on a website, but if we were in a pub and youd just said that to me, id break your ****ing nose.

Oh, your dmusic stuff sucks too, i could play better with one hand, and when i finally get Cakewalk Home studio ill prove it- You guys seem to think that just becuase you worshiop Steve Vai, that that automatically makes you a shredder- It doesnt, the only people whose Dmusic stuff ive been at all impressed by- and no im not ass kissing- are Resiliance and Master of Shred.

one last thing, I am an unabashed Vai worshipper, but never mentioned anywhere that I could shred. If you want to argue, why dont you pick on something I actually said ????

Anyway, even if you could play better with one hand or with your wang, I wouldnt listen to it for anything in the world, just because of the way you talk. It seems like your having a bad day or something. Just chill man, arguing with 10 people and losing is never the solution.

and pray to God, its never too late.

Peace.

Peace.
:peace:

[wil]

If i go to a rome and diss romans?
what the hell does that mean? Theres a difference between having a heated argument and getting personal and making crap jokes abouyt having 12 yr old girlfirends isnt there? Trying to put a lame internet geek slur on my character because i dared challenge the mighty Vai? And you say im immature?
I'll let this lie and drop the argument, but I'll just say, If Slash knows less theory and still writes memorable songs, riffs, solos, melodies, then that to me makes him a better player becuase he's playing with his heart not his mind, he doesnt add notes becuase ancient old music theory decress that the lydian mode has an airy feel, or the harmonic minor has a neoclassical feel, he's PLAYING what SOUNDS GOOD, what he feels.

Right, now forget all the confusion over the terminology of what makes a shredder, Slash hasnt recorded any pretentious instrumental albums, he doesnt talk abstract boring theory in magazines, he doesnt play out and out shred, but hes done flashy moments, and i didnt realise this website was that elitist that such an attempt at a discussion would result in such bollox.

[pavan]

^ he has some solo stuff.

Most shredders write music with their hearts : Jason Becker is a fine example. Even Steve Vai. If their stuff is pretentious to you, maybe thats the image created by your mind, and thats perfectly normal because we all have different perceptions.

And no, your argument was anything but elitist.
again, peace, lets go to a pub and play some good old led Zep, and maybe why not even gnr?

[wil]

I have a lot of time for Jason Becker, whereas Vais stuff- however technically impressive- tends to verge on either silly stuff- Kittens Got Claws, Ya Yo Gakk, Bad Horsie, Salamanders in the Sun, The Riddle- or weird spiritual stuff- Whispering a Prayer, FTLOG, HIS WHOLE NEW ALBUM- and to me its all a bit TOO good. Vai's spiritual stuff just has no appeal to me, froma personal sense, therefore, the only thing i listen to it for is as an aspiring guitarist.

I think of it like photorealist painting- Ralph Goings is a good one- his painting is technially astonsihing, but its too good, whereas someone who had much less technical artisty- ie Edward Hopper- i find more appealing and interesting.

If i practised 15 hours a day, Id want to be as good as Vai, but i dont, i dont have the kind of commitement he or half the other popular shredders have, and thats what i admire about them, surely that qualifies me to come on this board. After all, its a guitar sitre, not an out and out Vai apreciation site, and when i come on with a genuine and legitimate question about a piece of pretty fast guitar music, it is met with endless cries of 'Slash is not shred!', well, get this neither are rthe Cars, but theres a thread on them on here! or ' those arent chromatics' even though technically they are. whast the hell was all that about?
Are you starting to realise what gets me so pissed off about some of the poeple on here?

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by wil
I have a lot of time for Jason Becker

That makes you a shred listener to me. :p: And tell me, does Beckers Air, Altitudes, or Images, not create more emotion then Slashes riffs?

[pavan]

see, there are better ways of putting across an idea. firstly, you dont attack the concept of shred.

yes, as i mentioned earlier ( in case you noticed ) that i like slash. i love Jeff Beck's music. I love love Dave Gilmour's guitaring. Not so long ago, I pronounced my infinite love for Nirvana. I even went ahead and called Kurt Cobain a genius. I said people like him come once in a million years. I love Indian and Western Classical Music. I like Jazz. I like some pop. I like Rush. I like Crimson King. I like Metallica. I love Megadeth. I like the Corrs. I like Audioslave. I like the Who, Led Zeppelin, Simon and Garfunkel. I like so many non-shred things.

But when I declare my great love for these things, I dont put down any other form of music. I dont anger other people by saying hey, shred doesnt have emotion and stuff like that.

you have a minor point, but there's a way of putting across an idea or discussion.

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by pavan

yes, as i mentioned earlier ( in case you noticed ) that i like slash. i love Jeff Beck's music. I love love Dave Gilmour's guitaring. Not so long ago, I pronounced my infinite love for Nirvana. I even went ahead and called Kurt Cobain a genius. I said people like him come once in a million years. I love Indian and Western Classical Music. I like Jazz. I like some pop. I like Rush. I like Crimson King. I like Metallica. I love Megadeth. I like the Corrs. I like Audioslave. I like the Who, Led Zeppelin, Simon and Garfunkel. I like so many non-shred things.


You forgot to mention your love for bootylicious women.;)

[pavan]

now which self-respecting guy wouldnt like 'em?

anyway, I like Angelina Jolie the best. I am going to marry her someday.

[public property]

To clean up the chromatic argument, I guess you could call them chromatic, but i meant 4 notes per string chromatics

[Resiliance]

Do you guys not realise noone ****ing cares.

It's all about the music, who cares what you call what and who is what, shut the hell up and go practice towards whatever goal you have set for yourself.

Learn to have some fucking respect for other things, you're acting like a bunch of xenophobes.


wil: I don't even get what you're trying to say man, please formulate a clear point, because I really don't know what you're ranting about, and in succession everyone ranting against you.

We don't need this.

[wil]

I suppose some of those Becker pieces have a fair old amount of emotion in them, hes a great player and its a damn shame what happened to him, to me, that makes listening to his music a bit more emotional, left wondering what the hell he could have gone on to be etc etc.
I respect the fact that the majority of shredders must have an awesome amount of dedication to their instrument and thus automatically require a certain emotional connection to their instrument, if thats clear. Yngwie's music is repetitve as hell and pretty annoying, but its his LIFE, he talks more about guitars than his family, there are more pictures of his guitars on his website than there is his wife!
However, just cos Slash was in a rock band, and he doesnt play perfectly picked 32nd note passages etc, he is often criticised for being sloppy, or not SHRED, but as weve established, the Cars arent shred, nor are Extreme, nor really were Mr Big- yes, they may have had capable guitarists but they arent shred- yet they are talked about on this board, so why isnt SLash- If i like the bloke, and have a certain query about a passage of his music, recieve some criticism for this, then defend my argument that shred doesnt move me all that much, then whats the problem?
The guy is more than capable of defending himself, he doesnt need me to do it for him, i just think hes a unique, pretty talented and great sounding player.
What is it? If a post doesnt contain the names Vai or Becker dont you guys take it seriously? Why not take my word for it when i say Ive HEARD loads of this stuff, and Vai, Becker, Satch and Malmsteen are the satndout shredders, the rest- Fareri, Eklhund, Romeo- etc etc are just a bunch of pale imitators.

As for that chromatic thing, THEY DONT HAVE TO BE FOUR-NOTE PER STRING CHROMATICS LIKE A MIND NUMBING SHRED EXERCISE YOU KNOW.

[TapMaster]

I thought some people here would appreciate this

http://www.fewerthanthree.org/ibanez/

its a fan site for fans of ibanez guitars sign up !

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

^Joined. How do I put one of the codes on my site?

[TapMaster]

^ i dont know actualy if anybody does post plz

[The UG Squirrel]

happy birthday jason becker

[flamencogod]

it's his birthday?








I don't really care....

[Master Of Shred]

Me neither...

[Stratwizard]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
Me neither...

[Freepower]

Hey, it doesnt mean you cant take the time to at least mumble happy birthday...


Happy Birthday, if it still is. :cheers:

[Resiliance]

Yeah, what's wrong with you people; one of the strongest and most monumental indivduals in the electric guitar world, you'd probably all start hyperventilating if it were Vai's b-day.



Happy b-day to Jason, and may he continue being at piece with his inner self.

[Master Of Shred]

I wouldn't :p:

ok fine:

HAPPY BIRTDAY

[power freak]

Originally posted by wil
I admire John Mcluahglin and Alan Holdsworth as virtuosos and thier technique astoinishes me, but do i like their songs?
MOst of the fusion stuff i hear is just horrible discords etc etc, impressive all the same, but not NICE to listen to.

I'm not going to rant but you obviously are a fusion person. Jazz is not for everyone some people dig it and others don't. But please don't say Holdsworth's music is horrible, either you don't understand it or you have only heard some of his stuff.

Listen to Joshua, Mr Berwell any of those kind of songs and tell me it sounds "horrible." Mr Berwell has the most beautiful chord voicings I think I have ever heard.

:cheers:

[Beckerism]

Happy Birthday Jason. Keep going at it. One of these days stem cell research will vindicate you.

[Freepower]

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[wil]

Originally posted by power freak
I'm not going to rant but you obviously are a fusion person. Jazz is not for everyone some people dig it and others don't. But please don't say Holdsworth's music is horrible, either you don't understand it or you have only heard some of his stuff.

Listen to Joshua, Mr Berwell any of those kind of songs and tell me it sounds "horrible." Mr Berwell has the most beautiful chord voicings I think I have ever heard.

:cheers:

Cant say ive heard any of those, if i see them anywhere ill buy them and take your word for it- It may just be an England thing, but try and find this sort of stuff in the shops over here!

[SnowballofDoom]

Originally posted by Freepower
HEADLINE -

Shredder eats fetuses, regains abilities tenfold, mass suicides of guitarists worldwide, human ear insufficient to appreciate the brilliance - scientists promise new ears by 2010!

:haha

[power freak]

Originally posted by wil
Cant say ive heard any of those, if i see them anywhere ill buy them and take your word for it- It may just be an England thing, but try and find this sort of stuff in the shops over here!
I'm in England man. ;) I'm just an Allan fanatic so I hunt down anything with his name on it. :p:


:cheers:

EDIT: Anyone interested in Allan's "compositions" should by the Gary Husband album "The Things I See" All the tracks are "covers" of Allan tracks played on acoustic piano, no drums, no bass, no distortion and NO SYNTH. :D

[wil]

Ive looked everywhere, but cant find hardly any Holdsworth or McLaughlin, most of the stuff ive heard is on the internet etc.

[Stratwizard]

Originally posted by Resiliance
Yeah, what's wrong with you people; one of the strongest and most monumental indivduals in the electric guitar world, you'd probably all start hyperventilating if it were Vai's b-day.



Happy b-day to Jason, and may he continue being at piece with his inner self.

Actually, Vai's birthday is 6th of June. I'm still hyperventilating. :p:

Well, okay. Happy birthday Jason! :cheers:

[pavan]

Originally posted by Beckerism
Happy Birthday Jason. Keep going at it. One of these days stem cell research will vindicate you.

Lets hope UK /China / Brazil / Korea / Singapore comes up with something.

Too bad Bush is a bastard

But I have faith in science.

[Beckerism]

I'm betting on China or Korea. Either way, it doesnt matter who gets it the quickest as long as people get cured.:)

[pavan]

talking of birthdays satriani's was on July 15th

anyone heard of L. Shankar ?

[Freepower]

20 months with my gf today. Or yesterday, if you're one of those people who thinks being past midnight REALLY makes it a new day.

Anyway. I love her to bits, thought id randomise the random shred chat thread a little.

Besides, what am i meant to do, depress the relationship thread further.

This is us.
Not her best picture, but i honestly couldnt do the girl justice.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/freepower/Copyresult.jpg

*unashamed couply happiness*

[kyle_afi]

^ Congradulations Freepower. Hope you have many more months to come. :cheers:

BTW it's been a month and 2 days for me and my gf. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Blackened-World]

well its a good thing it has to do with shred.

[Freepower]

Well, im entitled a few stupid posts a week, anyway!

Yeh, this is one of them, i cant think of a shred related topic...

[pavan]

:haha:

Freepower, every 3rd post of yours is about your gf. And now this is the 2nd pic this week.

Anyway, I have found my identity. I have realised what kind of music I would like to make. It's loosely based on Shakti's music. Shakti was the first attempt at "world music" about 30 years ago, with John McLaughlin on guitars.

Resi, I dare you to listen to Shakti and not be moved.

[pavan]

and freepower, i my pics with satch will pwn all your pics... i just have to hunt down my friend who has them.

[Beckerism]

freepower, work on your tappin' skills. :p:

[Master Of Shred]

Originally posted by Freepower
20 months with my gf today. Or yesterday, if you're one of those people who thinks being past midnight REALLY makes it a new day.

Congrats :cheers:

I've now around 9 months with mine. ( Dunno when lol ) I'll make a pic of us together too ;)

[Resiliance]

Originally posted by Freepower
Not her best picture, but i honestly couldnt do the girl justice.


That's alright. I'd hit it.



And mos: please don't have children.


Edit: I have, pavan.

[power freak]

Originally posted by Resiliance
That's alright. I'd hit it.

You'd hit anything that moves. :p: (In both a sexual and literal context)

Shakti's stuff is great, I like almost all Indian style music. Someday I'd like to go to India and hear it first hand.

:cheers:

[Resiliance]

:(








Sleep with one eye open.

[Beckerism]

Power freak doesnt own a pillow. :o

[Master Of Shred]

Originally posted by Resiliance
And mos: please don't have children.

Well, she's just as retarded as I am. Just as crazy, just as dutch. So if we would take a kid ( Please NOT in a couple of years :p: ) the new darth vader will rise

[Resiliance]

^Yeah, exactly :p:

[Freepower]

Originally posted by pavan
:haha:

Freepower, every 3rd post of yours is about your gf. And now this is the 2nd pic this week.

*Searches own posts in sad obsessive manner...*


HEY! Not LITERALLY every third!
And i think its the 3rd pic, i thought i posted two in the show off your gf thread...

Anyway, I have found my identity. I have realised what kind of music I would like to make.

BRILLIANT!

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

I know how you feel. Now get making! And MoS, you never told me you had originals up, didnt i make you promise in the VERY early stages of this very thread that you would?

Wanker. Nice "Destiny...searching...pretentious...flying in a love of God..." whatever its called, i like the pretentious shred title, i like the song.

Havent listened to the other, but im busy.

And finally, i've finally done some JAZZ, should be up soon, its not uberjazzy, but its nice. And im doing some fingerpicked stuff atm, i've gone very frusciante recently. Chords. Ownage.

Fuck you shredders, im off to play some beatles. :cheers:


(i'll be back to shred soon to play some gorgeous swept arps. But they're chords too, so they dont count as shred.)

And finally, MoS, why not get your gf and guitar teacher to make the beast with two backs? You could have a child which was like, darth vader, meets super clean shred!

"Feel the power of the shredside, luke...sweeping pawns your pentatonics...you think that the power of blues can defeat ME? MUHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH".

(My gf said i was acting weird today. She's right, aint she?)

EDIT: Guess who promotes himself?

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=237658 - jazzy track

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=237660 - acoustic song

I guess if anyones interested, it just makes it convienient. Theres no real way to interest someone who isnt, i have some people who usually listen to my stuff (Thanks! Is it any GOOD though?) and if you're curious as to what i actually sound like beneath a veneer of seeming to know what im talking about, go ahead and click, shred newbies!

[power freak]

Originally posted by Beckerism
Power freak doesnt own a pillow. :o
How did you know. :eek: Damn shred forum perverts. :p:


:cheers:

[Dreadnought]

Yo, do you cats have any warmup routines that you tend to use a lot? You know, one's that just work so well you can't throw them away or forget them....

I use this: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=237177

Wrote it one day in search of a something that could warm up my left hand (finger dexterity, strength, movement, etc.) as well as my right hand (alternate picking mostly, with string movement). Not to mention the descending five-string sweep part sounds pretty cool :p:

EDIT: My recording is crappy, and the tab isn't 100% correct lol... although, it does have all the notes. I just forgot some repeat things in places.

[Master Of Shred]

Originally posted by Freepower
And i think its the 3rd pic, i thought i posted two in the show off your gf thread...

I know how you feel. Now get making! And MoS, you never told me you had originals up, didnt i make you promise in the VERY early stages of this very thread that you would?

Wanker. Nice "Destiny...searching...pretentious...flying in a love of God..." whatever its called, i like the pretentious shred title, i like the song.

Havent listened to the other, but im busy.

And finally, i've finally done some JAZZ, should be up soon, its not uberjazzy, but its nice. And im doing some fingerpicked stuff atm, i've gone very frusciante recently. Chords. Ownage.

Fuck you shredders, im off to play some beatles. :cheers:


(i'll be back to shred soon to play some gorgeous swept arps. But they're chords too, so they dont count as shred.)

And finally, MoS, why not get your gf and guitar teacher to make the beast with two backs? You could have a child which was like, darth vader, meets super clean shred!

"Feel the power of the shredside, luke...sweeping pawns your pentatonics...you think that the power of blues can defeat ME? MUHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH".

(My gf said i was acting weird today. She's right, aint she?)


about the 1st comment :

lol, awesome.

about the 2nd comment :

yeah it's up since yesterday :cool:

about the 3rd comment :

Ive checked it out + commented

about the 4th comment :

lol no good idea :p:

about the 5th comment :

yeah she's damn right :p:

:cheers:

[MankiiKing]

Any of you guys have the tabs to Rock Discipline? I remember reading someone had them, I'd really appreciate if anyone could give them to me.

[Freepower]

http://www.mysongbook.com/?msbp=eng%2Ctab%2Ctab_list&keyword=rock+discipline&imageField.x=10&imageField.y=5

The laziness of some people these days, lol.

[MankiiKing]

^Haha, well im not a big fan of guitarpro. I dont browse that site a lot.
Thanks though. :cheers:

[Resiliance]

I have them in .pdf..

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Resi gave em to me.

[iwinagain]

hey im new to the shred fourm. 79 pages I am not reading I randomly browsed through a few and that was enough. I have never really listened to shred. I am an accomplished guitar player meaning I know my theory and technique but would like to start of learning something easy and work my way up. What are some songs, or cool licks that I can start off. Thank you in advance.

[pavan]

Hello.

Maybe some Joe Satriani songs to start with, songs like Always with me Always with you, Summer Song, some off of his latest album - Is there love in Outer Space, Ceremony, Friends. I suggest you buy the anthology album.

You may get frustrated many a time. You may get stuck but just keep going. And since you know your theory, you may even be able to appreciate the song writing and learn some new things.


good luck

EDIT : this is probably the nth time my post has been the first in a new page.

[iwinagain]

What a coinsidence eh. Thanks man I will for sure be checking those out. If anyone has anymore feel free to pm me or post them here and Ill continue to check. I look forward to participating in this fourm.

[Freepower]

Someone was asking for the freight train solo - well...

http://insaneguitar.com/col/TroyGrady/p2.html

Check it out. And he plays it too. But not over the neck. Or back to front...or even on two necks at once. :(

[MankiiKing]

Holy fucking shit! Steve Vai is coming to finland.
Now I'll just need to buy the tickets...

Just wanted to share my overwhelming joy with you all. :D

[public property]

http://www.vai.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12840

funniest thing ever. Vai is a genious. Wierd, but a genious.

[pavan]

i knew about the cat thermometer thing. he also had two french lovers in a room and had them to believe that they were making love and made them kept saying "oui oui".

vai is just too clever.

edit : some part of the song an army of 50 guitars plays.

[kyle_afi]

:haha that's great. Vai is one messed up dude.

[spee]

X2 lol, wtf was that guy thinking

[pavan]

His name is Stevie Vai
and he's a wierd guy

[SnowballofDoom]

Wow, that's....odd.....


By the way, pavan, great signature :cheers:

[kyle_afi]

At what point in "the Riddle" does this 'cat orgasm' occur? I listened to the whole song a few times and there's quite a few spots where there's weird noises, but I couldn't pin point which one was the kitty goodness.

[flamencogod]

that with the cat is ****ing sick!

[pavan]

theres more things about Steve Vai. I read somewhere ( it may not be true, i dont know ) that he didnt have sex for 2 months before recording Erotic Nightmares, and that he fasted for 2 days or so before recording Tender Surrender.

[wil]

I read somewhere he stopped masturbating for ages while practising- although you could argue he probably just swapped his dick for his guitar.

The guy is so committed to his instrument its unreal.

I cant stand ALexi Laiho but i think he put it pretty good when he said theres stuff on Passion and Warfare that no-one else will ever be able to do.

[GuitarMoFo23]

Somewhere in an interview Steve said that while not touring he likes to fast every month or so.

[pavan]

wait till you hear little green men and lucky charms

[JimmyStradlin33]

Randy Rhoads
Is he considered shred? Does anyone know how many nps the solo in crazy train is?
Cheers

[Freepower]

^ i've built up a lifetime supply of nps favours. Its bound to be someone elses turn to learn how to divide and multiply now...

[Freepower]

Something seriously weird happened today - EVERYONE on UG suddenly decided to respect or compliment me...

Seriously, from like, being offered modship in one of those miniforums, being told i give good advice in MT, or even just being told im a good example for noobs, i could do no wrong today...

Weird, but cool. Maybe i swallowed some of that "felix-whatever" stuff from Harry Potter..

Lol, any shredders here read the latest book?

[pavan]

yay fearpower. but dont sticky threads about your gf or your dog or your school or whatever.

i wouldnt be surprised if resiliance becomes a mod one of these days.

[MankiiKing]

I now officially own tickets to the Vai show coming up.
Happy happy! :D


Sorry for the spammy posts, but its not everyday you're going to see Vai live. :p:

^Oh, and just out of curiosity, what forum did they offer the modship to Free?

[SnowballofDoom]

Spammy posts? It's the random shred chat thread. I could talk about string cheese and it's effects on guitar players and technically be on topic.

Anyway, congratulations on the tickets, I've always wanted to see Vai myself...darn 21 year old age minimum venues...

[MankiiKing]

^ Thanks. I guess I was lucky with the age limit things, cause the venue hes playing could've had 18 minimum age. I was sure that it will have it when I heard he was playing there. Good thing I was wrong.

[Freepower]

^ "miniforum", i meant like SU, or one of those other UG offshoots. Not a UG forum, sorry for the confusion. I turned it down.

[GuitarMoFo23]

Your in for one of the best concerts you have ever seen going to see Vai. I saw him a few months ago and I am still feeling the effects of such an awesome show.

[iwinagain]

wow im so jealous

[Freepower]

The Berzerker played in belfast after their first album, and i hadnt heard of them at that point.

I've missed 2 separate Muse gigs on 3 seperate occasions, each time it was someone else's fault.

I did however, get to see feeder, and there was this REALLY hot girl bouncing around in front of me, and then we got off with each other, and now im stuck with her. Ah well, feeder was great.

What shredders have you guys all seen live?

[power freak]

Originally posted by Freepower
The Berzerker played in belfast after their first album, and i hadnt heard of them at that point.

I've missed 2 separate Muse gigs on 3 seperate occasions, each time it was someone else's fault.

I did however, get to see feeder, and there was this REALLY hot girl bouncing around in front of me, and then we got off with each other, and now im stuck with her. Ah well, feeder was great.

What shredders have you guys all seen live?
Batio (I hated it, I only lasted 3 songs before getting bored out of my brain), Kotzen (excellent) and Balducci (Even better.)


Music Live, all "free" gigs.


:cheers:

[Resiliance]

^Umm, Yngwie, Petrucci, Maiden triple if you call them shred (don't hit me), Moore, Morse, Jani Liimatainen, Herman Li, that's about it... I think.

[pavan]

Originally posted by Freepower
I did however, get to see feeder, and there was this REALLY hot girl bouncing around in front of me, and then we got off with each other, and now im stuck with her. Ah well, feeder was great.

What shredders have you guys all seen live?

ah, in my satriani concert, there was this hot girl who was almost glued to me because there was no space. :D

i've seen only satriani .If blabberouth.com is to be believed vai is coming down here in november

[SnowballofDoom]

I saw Satriani on his Evening With... tour. Caught a pick too :p:

[GuitarMoFo23]

Satch, Steve Vai, and Rob Balducci

[Dreadnought]

Originally posted by SnowballofDoom
I saw Satriani on his Evening With... tour. Caught a pick too :p:

Went to that show also... what a GREAT concert, eh?

Satch > all

EDIT: That's also only the 2nd concert i had been to... out of 3. I'm not really a concert going guy. The other two were Steve Oliver (completely amazing... if you want to see a guy with monster chops, go see him) and Trans-Siberian Orchestra (do I even have to describe how awesome they are?).

[Master Of Shred]

Michael Romeo, Marcel Coenen, Yngwie, Vinnie Moore, Steve Vai, and I'm going to DT soon :)

[flamencogod]

Originally posted by Resiliance
^Umm, Yngwie, Petrucci, Maiden triple if you call them shred (don't hit me), Moore, Morse, Jani Liimatainen, Herman Li, that's about it... I think.

basically graspop, moore, more and jani :p:

[MankiiKing]

Quick question; Is this touchstyle? http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/KakiKing/video/KakiKing_ConanVidFull_ref.mov
If it is, if anyone has good touchstyle lessons please give links 'cause I really want to learn to do that. Its the coolest thing ever.

[Freepower]

Isnt she fantastic? I brought kaki to this forum, and yes, i would. She seems really nice, and i bet a fiver i could train her into a minx into the bedroom if she aint already.

And yeh, far as i know, thats sort of touchstyle, even if shes not doing many left handed chords. Wish i had lessons on it too.

[Resiliance]

Originally posted by flamencogod
basically graspop, moore, more and jani :p:


Yeah, and ****, I forgot to mention my chat with Coenen :p:


And I've seen Maiden 5 times now, so not really ;)

[SnowballofDoom]

Originally posted by Dreadnought
Went to that show also... what a GREAT concert, eh?

Satch > all



Oh definitely. The setlist was just perfect (Hordes of Locusts!). He also seemed a lot more energetic than he does on any DVDs I've seen.

[Master Of Shred]

Oh yea I almost forgot to mention that I have seen Di-Rect and Kim Lian live as well. ( Kinda the Blink and Good Charlotte of holland ) lol. It was for free, it was on the birthday of our queen, big party here, and it was fun to give them the middlefinger. And also another ****ty band with a wannabe-deathmetal singer and a wannabe-cobain guitarist, good combo huh ? ( Yeahyeah free as well :p: )

[MankiiKing]

Originally posted by Freepower
Isnt she fantastic? I brought kaki to this forum, and yes, i would. She seems really nice, and i bet a fiver i could train her into a minx into the bedroom if she aint already.

And yeh, far as i know, thats sort of touchstyle, even if shes not doing many left handed chords. Wish i had lessons on it too.

She sure is. And thanks for bringing her here, she today entered my elite list of favourite guitarists. :p:
I guess I gotta do a google hunt for some touchstyle lessons.
Its just too cool.

[Freepower]

Yup, i meant to do that, and forgot. Thanks for the reminder. Perhaps in a few months we can start up "UG's Touchstyle Club" or something...

EDIT: you owe me - http://www.traktortopaz.com/resource/lessons/index.html




And one for resi and the other dutch speakers...

http://www.gitaarnet.nl/magazine/workshops/carlosvamos/video.php3


There arent many lessons on this though... anyone else got a few?

[MankiiKing]

^Touchstyle club would be cool.
I found that same site too, I downloaded a few lessons but they seem to be for chapman stick or some other weird stick instrument. Maybe some of 'em are useful for guitar too.

http://www.wholenote.com/default.asp?iTarget=http%3A//www.wholenote.com/cgi-bin/page_view.pl%3Fl%3D9814%26p%3D1%26a%3D0
Theres Minuet in G by Bach in touchstyle. Not too hard but sounds pretty neat. I'll post if I find more.

[Freepower]

^ what does he mean, 3/4 tuning?

EDIT : time sig?

[MankiiKing]

^Probably. It says its standard tuning on the tab. Who knows.

[TapMaster]

it might mean to detune a 3/4 step

[flamencogod]

Originally posted by Master Of Shred
Oh yea I almost forgot to mention that I have seen Di-Rect and Kim Lian live as well. ( Kinda the Blink and Good Charlotte of holland ) lol. It was for free, it was on the birthday of our queen, big party here, and it was fun to give them the middlefinger. And also another ****ty band with a wannabe-deathmetal singer and a wannabe-cobain guitarist, good combo huh ? ( Yeahyeah free as well :p: )

wtf! how can you forget you say lange frans en baas B! They are so goddamn badass!

[The UG Squirrel]

http://www.racerxband.com/video/sequencedstringskip.wmv

can someone here tab what gilbert is playing there or give me a link to a tab? thatd be appreciated heaps

[The UG Squirrel]

ooh, is this the most awesome thing youve seen in the last ten seconds?
http://www.guitarshredshow.com/

[cactus]

I've been playing guitar fo a while now and do you guys know a good shred or progressive song to learn? the thing is I dont have an electric guitar yet so if anyone can help, thanks

[John Kimble]

That guitar shred show thing was awesome.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Yeah, that Guitar Shred show thing is damn cool.

[MankiiKing]

Guitar shred show awesome. Sounds a lot like Vai.

[public property]

coolest thing i've seen in a LONG time

[Master Of Shred]

I'm playing with those lessons all day long :D

edit : I'm gonna put the coolest riffs in powertabs so I can practise them :D :bonk:

[ShredtoBed]

wow...that was not only sick playing...but that animation...WOW

[Freepower]

^ yeh, that was extremely nice, i must say. Love the licks, which is the main thing, imo.

And as for what PG was doing, part of that can be found at mysongbook under "guitar solo live in tokyo" or something like that. He did one of those licks live. I assume you're familar with that form of arpeggios?

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Shredderines! Join the Mafia!

[pavan]

what do we get? free cookies? nude girl posters?

[flamencogod]

Originally posted by pavan
what do we get? free cookies? nude girl posters?

I sure hope so








(talking about the cookies)

[SilentDeftone]

I've seen Satch, Vai, and the Trans-Siberian Orchestra, all amazingly great.

-SD :dance:

[sixteen times]

Originally posted by Freepower
What shredders have you guys all seen live?

None... but I do have tickets to see Mark Tremonti (Alter Bridge) and Vai. :D

[shredfan]

I've seen Angelo, Ritchie Kotzen, and Laiho if you count him.

Probably going to see Gilbert later this month (oh yes!) and maybe Vai in October.

[JS Donnie F.]

guitar show is really good.

[Freepower]

Originally posted by shredfan
I've seen Angelo, Ritchie Kotzen, and Laiho if you count him.

Probably going to see Gilbert later this month (oh yes!) and maybe Vai in October.

^ Gilbert at the International Guitar Fest at Bath? I would have gone but it was over my bday. Next year.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

So much for a fucking Shred Mafia. The Blues Mafia got all fucking pissed as shit over is, saying I copied them, which I wasnt trying to do. They wouldnt let me in the Blues Mafia(for the dumbest of reasons), so I made my own.

Why not let me in the Blues Mafia? They wouldnt let me in because I have other tastes in music, not just blues. What the fuck is that shit about? This is a goddamn Guitar Forum, why so many fucking rules about a goddamn club?

Yeah sorry for the rant, just that whole reason of them not letting me in, well it made me fucking pissed off, so stupid.

[TasteOfMySyth]

any tips for shredding..

[The UG Squirrel]

Originally posted by TasteOfMySyth
any tips for shredding..

use fingers.





actually use a metronome, they always help. be sure to have as least tension in your arm when playing as possible

[Four-Sticks]

Does anyone remember the name of the guy who thought that it would be a good idea to glue a bunch of guitar picks together and shred using that method?

That was such a terrible idea that it's actually respectable. I would like to know his name.

[The UG Squirrel]

^^^TapMaster?


besides, paul gilbert uses a cordless drill sometimes and thats probably enough

[Freepower]

Hey, i dont see anything wrong with 2 picks if it works. There is a cap on the speed one can get with ordinary equipment and human physiology, im fine with pushing the boundries.

[Master Of Shred]

Originally posted by TasteOfMySyth
any tips for shredding..

Keep relax

[TapMaster]

Originally posted by Four-Sticks
Does anyone remember the name of the guy who thought that it would be a good idea to glue a bunch of guitar picks together and shred using that method?

That was such a terrible idea that it's actually respectable. I would like to know his name.

yeah thats me, i agree it was a terrible idea but it is pretty thing if you get it working

curious what did you wanna know my name for?

[kingal]

that guitar shred show is the best thing i've seen in ages, it rocks ass.

[TapMaster]

guitar shred show??? do tell

[Freepower]

^ read back the thread a few pages...

[pepajaktbs2]

I just saw the G3 dvd with Satch, Vai and Yngwie.

And I must say, it was ****ing amazing!

There are a few parts that almost made me piss myself it was so cool.

The whole jam at the end was amazing.

Yngwie raping his guitar. :p:

But the coolest thing in the whole concert was when Vai played the really fast part in I'm The Hell Outta Here with the other people in his band. How they trade off and stuff was too cool for words.

Just one question, was the Billy Sheehan playing bass for Vai?

[evac|DB]

Yes, it was. :D

[TapMaster]

Sheehan is the man, i met him in the guitar shop here and he let me play his bass, the same teal one he always uses

[MankiiKing]

^ That's quite cool. Sheehan kicks ass.

The part where Yngwie broke his guitar made me cringe a little. :(

[Shreddy]

I hate it when people brake perfectly good guitars... especially JEMs.

[Reemster]

Shredders I've seen live, uhm, not too many, but a few cool ones: Vai, MacAlpine, Michael Romeo, John Petrucci, Satch, Marcel Coenen, and probably a few that don't come to mind just now.... Hope to add many more in the future ;)

[TapMaster]

Originally posted by Shreddy
I hate it when people brake perfectly good guitars... especially JEMs.

If you break a JEM you know your going to go to hell when you die

[pavan]

Originally posted by Shreddy
I hate it when people brake perfectly good guitars... especially JEMs.

even me. I treat my guitar like some delicate wench or flower or something.

[Shreddy]

Originally posted by pavan
even me. I treat my guitar like some delicate wench or flower or something.

Me too. I wash my hand before playing, clean it wish fender cleaning product, take special care in handling and everything to keep it safe. I don't know what I would do without my guitar... probably just play my acoustic for a while untill I got a new electric really.

[pavan]

I'm moving into a hostel later this month and will have to do with an acoustic for a year or so maybe except on Sundays when I come back home. Too bad.

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by pavan
I'm moving into a hostel later this month and will have to do with an acoustic for a year or so maybe except on Sundays when I come back home. Too bad.

Bummer dude. Learn to shred some paco de lucia. :p:

[public property]

Originally posted by TapMaster
If you break a JEM you know your going to go to hell when you die

Sigged :D

[synth002]

Greetings shredder people, i too spend abnormal amounts of time worshiping the 6-stringed beast!

I have recently started to try and add tapp's to my sweeping bits/runs.. but I have a bit of a question thing..

When sweeping and tapping I have to pick(sweep) OVER THE FRETBOARD!!!, this means I cant mute the strings at the bridge which in turn leads to way too much noise!

My question is how do you guys deal with this? do you bring/brush the palm of your hand across the strings as you sweep them to stop ringing? im thinking this is the way to do it but i know its gonna take a lot of practice to achive (which i av no probs wiv!) i just need or would like to know if im on the right track!

This is the type of lick im talking about..


-------------------------------------------8h12t1512p8--------------|
----------------------------------------10-----------------10-----------|
-------------9h12t1412p9---------9-----------------------9----------|
----------10-----------------10---10-------------------------10-------|
----7h12-----------------------12-------------------------------12p7-|
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h= hammer on t=tap note p=pulloff

that kind of shape maybe further up the neck and maybe broken up a bit. (shape mite not b rite (i dnt have my guitar with me)).

Hope tha makes sense! Thanks for your time dudes.

[public property]

yeah, sweeping over the neck uses exactly the same muting priciples, just moved from the bridge to where ever your right hand is.

[synth002]

thanks man!

[shredfan]

Similar question to his:

Can anybody here do the Michael Romeo style string skip tapping cleanly and at speed?

I've tried doing it, but its a nightmare to keep it clean and avoid extra noise. In particular I tend to sound open strings when moving to other strings, like an accidental pull off.

Any tips on how to get it right, mechanics wise? Something other than starting at a slow pace, because I can already do that.
:cheers:

Arpeggios like this are something I'd really like to start using, but I'd prefer not to play them at all than to play them badly.

[Freepower]

^ idk, other than practice, id suggest looking up some lessons on it. There are tricks to it, but i cant recall them from memory.

And as for the sweep and taps, just dont sweep over the fretboard, is what i usually do. Sweep right before the fretboard and perhaps just mute less tightly with your palm. At the end of the day, your problem with sweeping over the fretboard is that you may accidently tap a note with your pick....or deliberately. :)

[public property]

Yeah i would have said the whole thing about not sweeping over the fret board if tony macalpine didn't do it so damn cleanly, clearly theres just som knack for it.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

W00T! Seeing Eric Johnson and Adrian Belew(sp?) in September.

Gonna be pwn.

[Master Of Shred]

Your sig is damn annoying lol

[synth002]

Sweepin over the Fretboard seems to be do-able at speed so damn tricky tho, total respect for those who do, seems worth learning it that way.. I cant imagine doing it any other way without having to dart about to put it tap's.. do any of you guys sweep over the board n mute with the side of you palm as you cross over strings?

ALSO.. It would be a great help if you guys could tell some names of good books on theory that may have helped you guys out, aimed at to-be shredders perhaps. Lots of good web articals but a really good book(s) on the subject is what im looking for. I mean knowing scale patterns any how to pull a lick is one thing but.. you know what I mean , gotta put it all together and know what it means. Like Inervals chords/scales relationships.. modes.. and such like...

Sorry for all the questions! But I gotta ask!

Thanks for your time again!

[kyle_afi]

When I do the Romeo string skip tapping thing, such as the interlude in sea of lies, I tend to mute the string being skipped with the fleshy part of my index finger. Hell, just experiment muting the unwanted strings in different ways. Once you figure a good way out, work it up to speed.

:cheers:

[neox the cow]

So, randomly, what do you guys think of Vai's "The Reaper" song? I've somehow skipped over it all of the time and just caught it tonight on my playlist. I'm seriously liking this.

[pavan]

me too. I hardly used to pay any attention to that and Your Here, but now I like both of them. That reaper song keeps ringing in my ears. I like the part when he plays that little riff common to both juice and answers.

[public property]

Most vai songs have that thing were they relate to every other song hes done somehow, that little 'rememberance' sound that he gets, makes you feel more involved in the song.

One song that I just got cause I haven't been able to get hold of fire garden is the mysterious murder of christian tiera's lover, i'm lovin it, the free time end especially.

[Shreddy]

I want to get that album sometime, Fire Garden that is, is Steve the singer?

[YngwieMalmstien]

Yes half of the album is instrumental the other half he sings on

[Reemster]

Yeah, you really should get that album, it's incredibly freaky from time to time, and Hand on Heart is absolutely beautiful.

[Shreddy]

I think I'm gonna buy Tones by EJ first, then maybe that.

[shredfan]

I must confess, I would prefer if Vai didn't sing on his albums at all, but maybe thats just me. He doesn't have a bad voice, but his guitar can do the talking for him so much better. His playing seems to suffer on the vocal tracks.

The first half of Fire Garden is easily the best.
Similarly, RI:R starts off well with Building the Church, but then on Dying for your love, I just think 'Dammit Steve, just shut up and play yer guitar!'

Fire Garden is a good album overall though, if a bit wierd at times, i.e 'When I was a little boy'.

[Shreddy]

I think his singing in RI:R took some time to get used to, but was very well done.

[YngwieMalmstien]

Steve Vai is always doing something different I really liked his vocals on Real Illusions very unigue songwriting too

[pavan]

she's a woman who understands
she's a woman who loves her man

[public property]

^ did sting hit you in the face or something?

[pavan]

I dowloaded Vai and Nelly Furtado at the Grammy's yesterday. I think I'm liking Nelly.

[flamencogod]

wtf is this about?

[public property]

Look to your left, look to your left, BAM you just got hit by the fastest forum on UG.

[Freepower]

The shred forum.

Sure, theres 80s rock and progressive here too, but they hide from the might of the shredforce in the GnR only thread.

:down: :down: :down:
:down: :satan:
:down: :down: :down:

[public property]

whos going to see vai in england this year? i'm going in october, I'm excited as hell, but i know that its not going to be as good as the one with the aching hunger, because its simply not possible :(

[Shreddy]

Originally posted by public property
whos going to see vai in england this year? i'm going in october, I'm excited as hell, but i know that its not going to be as good as the one with the aching hunger, because its simply not possible :(
If I lived in England I would...
Why won't Steve come to Seattle(or Portland, doesn't matter)!!!??? Why???!!!

[pavan]

or India... but hey Satch came down here.

[shredfan]

Originally posted by public property
whos going to see vai in england this year? i'm going in october, I'm excited as hell, but i know that its not going to be as good as the one with the aching hunger, because its simply not possible :(

I'll find a way, even though the dates and location are a little awkward for me.

I do have a ticket to see Gilbert on 20th August though.

[gtgram14]

Hey Ive never posted in this forum before, but I'm a big shred fan so I figure this is the place to be. I was wondering if you guys know when vai is coming back to the USA. The only shredish concert ive been to is Eric Johnson at the house of blues in New Orleans, (Johnny A opened for him< that guy can play), but Im a Vai fan and I'm dying to see him live.

[kyle_afi]

:sad:

You guys are lucky that you have even a remote chance of seeing Steve live...

I live in Canada.....

[MankiiKing]

Originally posted by public property
whos going to see vai in england this year? i'm going in october, I'm excited as hell, but i know that its not going to be as good as the one with the aching hunger, because its simply not possible :(

Im seeing him here in october. :D Cant wait.

[Freepower]

That'd be class...

but the only irish gig is over 18s. Next year then... :(

[John Kimble]

God dammit I would kill someone to get to see Vai or Dream Theater live. I live in Newfoundland Canada, and all we have is ****ty local punk bands.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Yeah, not many shred shows come through Minnesota either. Vai came back in April, which I went to. Fucking ruled.

Gigantour is not coming here. Fucking Dave Mustaine, ill kill you.

But, im seeing Eric Johnson in Sept, so im a happy camper.

Also I met Eric Sardinas, and saw him live as well. Now that rocked. :headbang:

[Shreddy]

Originally posted by WyldeGibsonPlyr
But, im seeing Eric Johnson in Sept, so im a happy camper.

I still hate you for that...

All good concerts around here seem to be fore 21 and over...

[Resiliance]

All good concerts around here seem to be... in other countries :D

[gtgram14]

In new orleans it was an 18 and over show to see Eric Johnson, but they didnt ID :) I think it depends on the venue as to weather or not they really care. it was a house of blues with only a few hundred people.....I was like 10 feet away hehe. I live in freakin the middle of nowhere my only hope of seeing someone is if they come through boston, I was just on vacation at the right time to see EJ.

[pavan]

little green men are 4 foot 2
maybe they want to mate with you

[public property]

First post in a while, from little green men.
Fuc.k Yourself off that (or is it flexable leftovers?) is awesome

[pavan]

**** Yourself
Lyrics by Steve Vai
Album : Flexible Leftovers

Warning: these lyrics are pretty coarse and are not intended to be read by children like public property or anyone easily offended by written words. You've been warned.

**** yourself with a rubber hose
Stick it in your mouth and down your throat
Up your nose and in your heinie hole
I don't care where it goes
And it don't matter if you're straight or gay
You should **** yourself anyway
Now, you don't have to listen to a word I say
But I know you, you'll be humpin' away
**** yourself with your neighbor's nose
If you can't use that, use a 10-foot pole
Stick it up your ass and go for a stroll
Everyone will know you've been to this show
If you can't take, eat my stool
Masturbate with some crazy glue
I don't care what you do
Fock yourself with a garden too
l**** yourself with politics
Ahh they're full of ****in' ****in' ****
I mean you know we've been lied to ever since we were born
It's amazing that we've been getting ****ed that long
**** yourself with the world wide web
Man you could ride that sucker right from your bed
You may even meet a Tom, Dick, Jane or Billy
Then grab onto your modem and **** yourself silly
**** yourself with your heart and soul
Give it everything you got, hey I'm talkin' to you
If you can't even **** yourself,
How ya gonna **** somebody else?
**** yourself with my microphone
I'll give it to you later when we're all alone
We can turn it up loud
And see if you come, but
Don't get your jizz on my microphone
**** yourself with organized religion
Now that is some seriously sinnin' business
If the Lord sees their pathetic crimes
He'll be ****in' them 'til the end of time
And can someone explain to me this racist crap
I know it isn't white, but it isn't black
And to all you people who only see things your way
Well, you can suck my dick and take all day
**** your nose with a pound of blow
Watch your money get up and gobut when you burnt your brain and you sayI don't know!
I hate to tell you but I told you so
**** yourself with this grunge rock noise
I mean, stuff those albums in your groin
They come down on me because I know how to play -Hey... **** you!
**** yourself with a copy of Rolling Stone
Or are they too holy for your holiest of holes
Now those people think they're holier than Moses
But aren't they just a bunch of ****in' posers
**** yourself with your mother's jewelryI won't tell,
I ain't a stooly
If you pounce hard enough you'll cough up a ruby
Your blood will be rich and so will your doodie
**** yourself with the latest fashion
With your spikes and your hair and those cute little buttons
And if you happen to have some leather and lace
**** yourself 'til you're blue in the face
**** yourself with your income tax
They're ****ing you and that's a fact
Before you know it your money's all spent
And you've just been ****ed by the government
**** yourself with your lawyer friend
You're the only one that's getting ****ed in the end
I have been so ****ed by legal bills that my asshole is the size of Beverly Hills
**** yourself with your full-length sweater
With your minks and your diamonds and your Irish Setter
With your cash and your trash and your sinks and your drinks
Just **** yourself 'til you can't even think
Those of you who enjoy this songthank you thank you, I love you
Let's get it on
But for those of you who are totally outraged
**** yourself with your face

[The UG Squirrel]

His humour style is obviously "influenced" by his time with Zappa...

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Thy Shred Mafia has been reserected, for good.

Join thy shredderines!

[MankiiKing]

I :heart: Fuck Yourself, it's the best Vai song with lyrics imo.

[Freepower]

Im 17 mother****ers, not a 16 year old no more!

Whoop whoop!

:dance::dance::dance:
:dance::dance::dance:
:dance::dance::dance:

Had a small party (im sick of big ones, my parties have become something legendary among my friends, im far less subdued in real life than i am on UG, im actually a complete crazy ****er. In case people think i look like my avatar - im 14 in it, lol - heres me just a few days ago, my gf lucky enough to catch my "I found a pick! NOW FEAR ME!" expression.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/freepower/the20devil20is20crazy.jpg

[Beckerism]

lol. You look like your in the *rawr* mood.

[Resiliance]

Hmm, that's a nice chair.

[pavan]

nice chair.

your 17.
another 90 yrs to go................

[Freepower]

^ till what? Im 107?

Originally posted by Beckerism
lol. You look like your in the *rawr* mood.

No, my *rawr* (do you do the pawing movement or the scratching movement) face is quite evil. And she wouldnt be able to get the camera up before i pounced.

Funny story, one time me and my good male friend were passing the time in history class, jokingly flirting with each other acorss a desk, as the lesson wasnt whatcha could call riveting.

So, i lick my lips. He licks his lips.

I grin and run my nipples.

He makes pelvic motions.

I did *something*, no idea what.

Then he gives me the *rawr* scratching motion and expression IDENTICAL to my gf.

Needless to say, i was so freaked out i almost fell out of my chair.



My my. Its 2.21am, and im rambling.

And i dont like that chair. I prefer the sofa. Huge room if you take the cushions off, you can comfortably sleep lovingly embraced. Or not so comfortably if you forget to take off the cushions. D'oh. :bonk:

[Resiliance]

Don't 'chu talk bad 'bout my sofa, bitch.

http://users.pandora.be/para_/Mr.%20F.jpg

[Beckerism]

10 bucks there are protein stains on that chair.:p:

[pavan]

whats strikes me is that it is in front of a shelf. Now, from my vast experience as a detective, I have often come across this setting. People, you have vurry little time on your hands. Freepower's gf is in grave danger. She may already be dead as you are reading this.

Freepower : and about the 90yrs more, that is a Resiliance expression. and I dare you to make 3 posts that dont mention your gf.

[Freepower]

Ok!

My gcse results came out today, except for french which i get on thurday.

I got A*s in Chemistry, History, English, Additional Maths (basically AS level maths taken a year early), Physics and Higher Maths, and A's in Biology, RE and ICT. Though tbh, those came as a complete suprise, thats the first non-A* i've ever got in Biology or IT over the last 5 years. Picked a good time to drop a grade, lol.

(one post)

[MankiiKing]

The Random Shred Chat Thread is getting more random every day. Its starting to look like the pit. :haha

Congrats on your b-day though Freepower. :cheers:

[HammerForce]

Was anyone else really surprised when they saw what shawn lane looked like?
I was sort of expecting someone who looked like Patrick Swayze....
Wondering if anyone had the same kind of idea as me?

[Shreddy]

Meh, the first time I saw Shawn lane was in a picture beforeI listened to him.

I think that this thread is pretty much a 'mini pit' for the shred forum, in response to the Mankiiking. It's a good place.

[TapMaster]

hey man remember that time you and me got completly wasted and came into the shred forum and look like total newbs and made a really stupid post that was not relavent in anyway to anything

[Freepower]

What, like now? :haha


Yeh, i think this a good thread idea, just so we get to know each other a little. SF's small enough and respectful enough for it to work.

[pavan]

oh 6 more days to freedom. people, I'm moving into a hostel.

[Four-Sticks]

Not shred at all, but a freaking virtuoso nonetheless:
Michael Hedges

Oh what a great dude...
Aura Muunta is the king of all you little ballsacks.

[Shreddy]

Originally posted by pavan
oh 6 more days to freedom. people, I'm moving into a hostel.
Why are you moving into a hostel?

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Firstly, whats a hostel?

And, Im in third place for posts in this thread. Wow.

[spee]

x2 what the **** is a hostel?

[Freepower]

Originally posted by WyldeGibsonPlyr
And, Im in third place for posts in this thread. Wow.

Number one. 200, oh yeh.

Hey resi, i just DID find something i pwn you at utterly. 80 posts in the lead, bitch. ;)

[Resiliance]

If only there was a post content meter.

















































Aha.






























Ahahaha.































































Ahahahaha.

[Freepower]

:golfclap:

Its almost as if he was mocking even himself with that one, he's apparent he lives with his metronome, building that deadpan up for moments like these.

[Resiliance]

^What's this then? Film noir? ;)



"He commented on my post. He told me what he thought. But I knew the truth, and he'd pay for what he did.Vengeance lay on his path."

[Freepower]

* cue dramatic overhead B+W shot of freepower, lit by the light of his monitor screen. He throws back his head with laughter. *

"He knew what Resi was thinking, he could taste it like rust in the air. They thought alike, always had. Perhaps thats why they were both bastards. But Freepower had the girl, and had left Resi long ago with no-one but a guitar for company, and but 3 fingers to play it with. He had played his move, let Resi know he was going to kick dirt into his teeth one more time. He finished this post, and then went to bed, waiting for the drama to unfold."

[Beckerism]

Right here we have the perfect example of gay lovers.




:p:

[The UG Squirrel]

SCORE! im the 6th biggest poster on this thread, which is kinda like failing at failing


and arent hostels like backpacker places?

[Freepower]

^If you fail at failing, you're good. Unless you come like, 6th, and are still **** at being good and crap at being bad. Haw haw.

Originally posted by Beckerism
Right here we have the perfect example of gay lovers.


Just because i called him bitch and then we lovingly had a film noir conversation doesnt make us gay lovers. I just find his penis comforting. :o

[Righteous]

Originally posted by Freepower
I just find his penis comforting. :o
:( *runs and hides*

[Resiliance]

Originally posted by Righteous
:( *runs and hides*



... Don't knock it 'til you've tried it.

[SnowballofDoom]

Originally posted by Resiliance
... Don't knock it 'til you've tried it.

http://maj.com/gallery/Cyberluddite/Fark/surprised20monkey.jpg





























:liplick:

[Freepower]

To think, i was missing out all those years. And now they've changed the law so even gay oral sex is technically rape for someone when underage. That sucks. Or doesnt, come (heehee come) to think about it.

Anyway, who knows where that site is where groupies log on and tell the world how big different rock stars penises are? Time to laugh at various shredders, methinks!

[flamencogod]

I bet you satch is gonna be laughed at

[Righteous]

Originally posted by Freepower
Anyway, who knows where that site is where groupies log on and tell the world how big different rock stars penises are? Time to laugh at various shredders, methinks!
:p: I would want to see that, lol... gross but interestingly funny...:(

[CornLord]

^ Maybe it's Metal Sludge.

www.metalsludge.tv

[Freepower]

^ no, it entirely dedicated to rock star penis size, as far as i know.

Originally posted by Righteous
:p: I would want to see that, lol... gross but interestingly funny...:(

^ apparently its very reassuring when you realise even godlike axeslingers are normally endowed.

[Four-Sticks]

Dudes, in the Joe Satriani guitar secrets thing learn the "Soloing in all Keys"

It will pwn your soul with awsomeness.

[Freepower]

"Joe Satriani guitar secrets thing"?

[Four-Sticks]

By "thing" I meant "book." :)

I wasn't in a very articulate mood when I made that post.