** The Random Shred Chat Thread **

[Freepower]

lol, ahhhh, k k.



^ most annoying MSN abbreviations in a freepower post ever.

[Beckerism]

why do you put periods after your k? just like k k k k. :p:

[Freepower]

^ it ends sentances. Didnt you go to school? ;)

[IgnoreThis]

Originally posted by Freepower

Anyway, who knows where that site is where groupies log on and tell the world how big different rock stars penises are? Time to laugh at various shredders, methinks!

I think its donnasdomain.com, havent been on it but i saw something about it on Kerrang about a year ago, i'm mught look at it later.

Edit- No, thats not the adress, it was (girls name)sdomain.com though, just google 'Rock star penis sizes', you'll probably get what you want.

[Freepower]

^ trust me, you DONT want to do that. :)

And yes, i've tried, and im trying to save you the same fate.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

^:haha

[SnowballofDoom]

Yeah, don't search for that.

After several mind scarring websites, and an embarrasing coversation with my mom, I've decided some things are best left to the imagination...

[The UG Squirrel]

^:haha:haha:haha

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Originally posted by SnowballofDoom
Yeah, don't search for that.

After several mind scarring websites, and an embarrasing coversation with my mom, I've decided some things are best left to the imagination...

:haha

You've been warned kiddies, dont search.

[kyle_afi]

:haha

[Freepower]

Yep. And dont search for specific people either. Ozzy is disgusting enough clothed.

[IgnoreThis]

^Dont tell me you searched for nude pics of Ozzy!

[Freepower]

Welcome to what we like to call "reading the backstory". :)

[Axegrinder#9]

don't diss Uncle Ozzy

[Freepower]

^ im sorry, but trying to claim he's goodlooking is beyond my lying chops. Give me a few years locked into a basement with a metronome and i'll give it a go.

[SnowballofDoom]

^Don't forget to start slow, and work your way up.

[Freepower]

I remember i gave that very advice to someone about cunnilingus once. Practice slowly and with a metronome, and work your way up.

Remember to use correct practice, dont make any mistakes in your practice, so that when you actually get a girl's thighs around your head, you dont start well and then get sloppy and end up in the bellybutton, or worse, the small of her back.

[SnowballofDoom]

Originally posted by Freepower
I remember i gave that very advice to someone about cunnilingus once. Practice slowly and with a metronome, and work your way up.

Remember to use correct practice, dont make any mistakes in your practice, so that when you actually get a girl's thighs around your head, you dont start well and then get sloppy and end up in the bellybutton, or worse, the small of her back.

:haha

I remember seeing you post something like that in a thread on how to get a girls bra off quickly. First time I laughed out loud from a post on UG...

[Freepower]

The sad part is, i actually thought that was really funny and so checked back to see who had noticed it, lol.

But seriously, you have to start slow and work your way up with that ****. A bra strap will confound anyone the first time. Perhaps im just untalented, but with an understanding, tolerant enviroment, you can shave the average time from a two-handed 15 seconds to a one handed 2 seconds, which, as anyone who can subtract knows, leaves you with THIRTEEN MORE SECONDS TO CUP BOOBIES.

[IgnoreThis]

Hey, i bumped that penis size thing that you were looking for on metalsludge, theres stuff on it on the site and theres a link to that site i was on about too on (no pictures, thankfully)

http://metalsludge.tv/main/index.php?module=subjects&func=listpages&subid=7

And i'll probably stay away from this subject now, but then it could be pretty funny, Vince Neil had a suprising result...

[Righteous]

Originally posted by Freepower
THIRTEEN MORE SECONDS TO CUP BOOBIES.
:haha Hehe, that made me giggle.
That website was... wrong... but curiosity took hold of me... I'm a pervert :( ...

[The UG Squirrel]

Mick Brown / Dokken
Absolute waste of time. Maybe 3 inches if you pull on it. Could be the drugs though.


:haha

[Righteous]

I say that website is one of the most entertaining sites ever.

[TapMaster]

Rob Bruce / Slik Toxik
Rob has a pretty small ****, plus he only has ONE BALL! He lost his other ball in an accident. Sounds like he comes up short in both areas.

Carlos Cavazo / Quiet Riot
Not only a very sloppy and boring lay, but he is very, very, very small. There is no riot going on in his pants.

LMAO

Gary Cherone / Ex-Van Halen, Ex-Extreme
Gary is so small if somebody saw you sucking his dick it would look like you were smoking a joint! Word has it that he is a lot like Freddie Mercury, on and OFF the stage

Marc Ferrari / Ex-Keel, Medicine Wheel
Marc is a decent lay but nothing to write home about. However, he has hair growing out of the side of his shaft, so be careful if you are going down on him!

Vince Neil / Motley Crue
What a fat lazy piece of ****. He has no charisma in the sack or on stage! After screwing thousands of chicks, he just doesn't put any effort into it anymore. If you hook up with Vince, you deserve a painful yeast infection. Not to mention he has the build of Cartman from South Park.

Twiggy Ramirez / Ex-Marilyn Manson
He looks like he hasn't taken a shower in 3 years, and on Howard Stern I saw him picking his nose like it was going out of style.

Paul Stanley / Kiss
One girl told me, "The only problem is when you're having sex with him you get the impression he's performing for 20,000 screaming fans. I have honestly never seen anyone look more retarded while having an orgasm. I thought he was having a seizure. Overall I'd give him a 9 in the sack, even though it was all I could do to keep from laughing when he came."

BEST ONE YET !!

Axl Rose / Guns N Roses
Temper tantrum boy has only an average **** but above average sized balls. We heard he had one of his famous models (Seymour) take a dump in a kitty liter box!!! I don't know about you girls, but my pussy ain't going anywhere near a litter box.




Any the only real big shredder I saw their was
Steve Vai / Guitar dude
Steve is suppose to have a good size ****, whatever that means. That's all I know.

That dude on here whos is in love with Steve Vai will be slightly dissapointed i think

[The UG Squirrel]

^:haha stop trying to make yourself feel more secure :haha

[TapMaster]

haha no no im just trying to get everyone to laugh as hard as i did reading that especially the one about axl rose and the kitty litter

[shredfan]

Yeah, I have actually been on that metal sludge thing before. Some of them are funny, but then you've got the ones that are like 'X rock star has *quite* a large ****, around 10 inches' and your like, OK, then fair enough.

[spee]

lol the one in love with vai would be vaishredder, sorry buddy, but hes just not up to par :p

[Nonentity2005]

Hey i was wondering, in general how much of the backing used by Shredders is actually musicians, as opposed to loops????

[shredfan]

^Most use real musicians, but some use drum machines etc, like Michael Angelo.

[Resiliance]

^And Theodore Ziras.


Damn his records are boring.

[gtgram14]

What about yngwie, that irritating bassline on Black Star has to be a loop.

[The UG Squirrel]

nope, yngwie recorded the bass guitars on that album

[Freepower]

^ doesnt mean its not a loop. :)

And besides, it can be an annoying bassline. If you pay attention to it, that is.

[Righteous]

I find backing repetitive backing tracks quite annoying.
BTW- Congrats Freepower on your maybe-article, I liked it, good stuff.

[Freepower]

^ like i said at the start, big thanks to resi, who introduced me to that kinda thinking. And to scott henderson, who teaches it better than i do, lol. :)

[Resiliance]

:cheers:

[Righteous]

So what songs are everybody working on here? And how far are you in learn it and mastering it? Just trying to get this thread up again...

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Just learnt To Be With You, by Mr Big.


Love that tune.

[Reemster]

I've been busy playing "Valley of the Damned" by Dragonforce. It's really fast power metal, and since my picking needs practice, I decided to focus on the fast rhythm guitar parts and trying to play them smoothly and up to speed. The guitar solos are a little over the top, but not always as hard as they seem. I've got 80% of it covered, so the rest will follow soon, I hope ;)

[Freepower]

Originally posted by Resiliance
:cheers:

Seriously though mate, i was jamming today (with 2 pianists, a drummer and a keyboardist, lol) and i realised that i was sounding damn fine, and thought, "Wow, i've really improved in my phrasing", as opposed to "Why do i suck?".

And i do owe you for that. Not that theres really any way i can respond, i have few musical tricks in my bag that i couldnt explain to you in about 5 minutes, but if you ever want to know anything about what i do, just ask me. :)

Actually, ****, share the music people, i'll tell any of you anything i can. :)

[Resiliance]

^Don't thank me, instead, kill the bastards who keep it to theirselves :D

[Freepower]

I agree! MOTHERFUCKING BASTARDS!

What's their ****ing thought process - "I wont tell people in case they all start making good music?"

I bet they go to the classic rock forum and complain about shred being wank and punk being too simple. WONDER WHY?




















Wankers.

[wynter]

Originally posted by shredfan
^Most use real musicians, but some use drum machines etc, like Michael Angelo.

The album 'Planet Gemini' was recorded with a real drummer and keyboardist.

[shredfan]

Originally posted by wynter
The album 'Planet Gemini' was recorded with a real drummer and keyboardist.

My bad. I find that surprising though, because the drums on Planet Gemini sound kind of fake, or at the very least lacking in energy. Maybe its just me.

The rest of my post still stands, except for the MAB part :D

[Notgood]

now dont get all pissy just because you dont like what i say.
i dont like shred. ive listened to steve vai and yngwie malsteem and some others, and it is all the same damn thing basically. I really think the players are extremely talented (who wouldnt) but i feel like there is no melodic sense to it and that it is just in terms of music pointless. Like they are excellent players but they are not good musicians. I will admit that joe satriani's music is closer to actually sounding like music then the rest. but people are i know who like shred like they listen to it and they like it but they like listen to it because it gets them all pissed off and amped up. Is everyone like that? It seems to be like some big contest as to " well which one of us can play the guitar faster" they are icons as players because they can probablly play anything they want with ease but if you're just considered a musician because you can play at supersonic speeds then there is really no integrity left.

[kingal]

^ You found your way in, i assume you can find your way out.
:wavey:

[SnowballofDoom]

Originally posted by kingal
^ You found your way in, i assume you can find your way out.
:wavey:

:golfclap:


^^It's fine if you want to voice your opinion, but it's an ignorant one at best. Dismissing Vai and Malmsteen because they 'sound basically the same' is a VERY stubborn look on shred.

It's like saying all classic rock is basically the same, or all blues is basically the same. That's pretty ignorant, don't you think?

I suggest you listen to more shred with an open mind, maybe you'll find something you like. If you don't want to, well, there's this little 'x' you can click on...

[The UG Squirrel]

hes the type of classic rock snob that freepower was JUST talking about. by saying that yngwie and vai are the 'same damn thing' is utterly stupid. dismissing them as the same thing is like someone dismissing blues because it mainly uses the I IV V progression, and they think it sounds the same. dont be an ignorant tool

[MankiiKing]

Originally posted by Righteous
So what songs are everybody working on here? And how far are you in learn it and mastering it? Just trying to get this thread up again...

Im trying to memorize a few licks off of Perpetual Burn, I'll be pretty good when I can pull this off. :p:

[Freepower]

Im working on my arpeggio work, playing my strengths, lol.

Also, music theory and sight reading, as i've started AS level music.

And im relearning my entire picking technique, im planning to have circle, wrist, and elbow picking all at my disposal with equal fluency (if not speed) in outside and inside picking.

So, everything but tapping! :)

[The UG Squirrel]

im working on being fluent, sight reading, theory, economy picking, sweeping.

in short that means im trying not to suck so much:p:

[kyle_afi]

I just received the new Guitar One magazine, so I'm working on all of the "chop building" exercises in it. Some of them are tough to get up to speed. The Vai exercise is awesome, but a bit tricky to get up to speed.

[SnowballofDoom]

I'm working on a lot of Steve Morse-style picking etudes, music theory, and No Boundaries by Michael Angelo.

[pavan]

La la la la la.

nice to be back.

[Four-Sticks]

This has nothing to do with with shredding, but the b3 to 3 to 1 is such a nice little phrase when playing blues or jazz or rock. I recommend that everyone experiment with it.

[TapMaster]

Originally posted by kyle_afi
I just received the new Guitar One magazine, so I'm working on all of the "chop building" exercises in it. Some of them are tough to get up to speed. The Vai exercise is awesome, but a bit tricky to get up to speed.

Me too im also working that same exercise as well as the play like randy rhoads section

[public property]

Which exercise would that be? I don't tend to buy the magazines.

[JeffWiredBeck24]

Originally posted by TapMaster
Me too im also working that same exercise as well as the play like randy rhoads section

thats a ****ing great issue dude, I just got finished doing everything on there, the four sections on the cover story, I spent 1 hour on each. I suggest everyone go pick it up, you get a **** load better whether your beginner or advanced and you want more technique.

[TapMaster]

Originally posted by public property
Which exercise would that be? I don't tend to buy the magazines.

Its from the October 2005 issue of Guitar One, even if you dont buy magazines, I HIGHLY suggest buying this magazine. Ive had it 3 days and ive improved soo much especially at a legato Plus there is helpfull tips from Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, Eric Johnson, Alex Skolnic, Mark Tremonti and some others.

[Righteous]

I think I'm going to buy that mag. Snowball was telling me about it, and it looks good.

[wil]

Im working on Yngwie's I Am A Viking, Hendrix's Castles Made of Sand and the Rock Around the Clock solo. i was gonna spend all day saturady practising but i went night fishing instead. never mind.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Now im currently working on EJ's Desert Rose.

[Righteous]

Wylde, nice new avator! Sweet as hell...
Anyways- CLiffs of Dover and a little bit of Camel's Night Out, but not much.
Mostly I work on exercises and writing some of my own stuff, although my writing is limited by my skill and knowledge that I am lacking.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

^Yeah, I like it too. I was originally going to have "Texas Thunder" put in at the end, but it didnt turn out that good, so I left that out.

Sadly, the icon wont work at the EJ Forums, which is the main reason I had it made. :( Oh well, it still pwns for UG.

[Beckerism]

someone please host Born to Shred 2 for me. Havent seen it in a loooong time. :p:

[TapMaster]

what is it?

[b-string]

Thought this free video lesson could be relevant for this thread, my all time favorite Nuno Bettencourt (Extreme) "Rest in Peace" solo:

http://www.freelicks.net/RIP1.htm

:cheers:

[Beckerism]

Originally posted by TapMaster
what is it?

small movie of guitar playing.:p:

[Resiliance]

^Small movie? :p:

[Beckerism]

meh, mebe 25 minutes? havent seen it in a while. SOMEONE HOST IT I KNOW YOU HAVE IT! :p:

[Metro2Lucid]

not sure if this goes here but i'll post it anywhere. i was just wondering if anyone knows where i can find the history of Satriani's bassists/drummers/rhythm guitarists.
i tried lookin at his website but i couldnt find anything.
thanks much =)

[The UG Squirrel]

google? their own websites? have you tried them?

[Metro2Lucid]

Originally posted by The UG Squirrel
google? their own websites? have you tried them?

lol my problem is that i dont know who they are. im just tryin to figure out who played for Satch and when..

[SnowballofDoom]

Drummers: Gregg Bissonette; Jeff Campitelli
Bassists: Matt Bissonette; Stu Hamm
Rhythm Guitar: Eric Cordeaux (he played keyboards as well); Galen Henson

Those are the only ones I can think of at the moment.



EDIT: His current band members are in bold.

[Freepower]

Im just wondering, is there a correlation between shred and high intelligence? It seems that way to me, anyhoo, opinions?

(*blatantly tries to restart thread*)

[Dreadnought]

Uh, no.

I've seen people think there was a relation between intellegince and jazz, intelligence and classical, etc etc. Sounds like a lame attempt at ego-padding, to me...

:cheers:

[Beckerism]

Anyone think a pinned shred suggestion list is created. There is one thread per week that is some newcomer asking "what are some new shred songs i can learn?" This is getting annoying..:peace:

[public property]

Intelligence and shredders, no, intelligence and people with an indept knowledge of music theory and how to use it, yes. why? because shredding literally takes a monkey to do, mastering music theory takes a genius.

[Four-Sticks]

Intelligence has no affect on music ability. So that would include shredding also.

EDIT: I should clarify that: IQ has no affect on music ability or shredding.

[Resiliance]

^Prove it.

That's about all I'm going to say on the matter.

[Freepower]

Originally posted by Four-Sticks
Intelligence has no affect on music ability. So that would include shredding also.

EDIT: I should clarify that: IQ has no affect on music ability or shredding.

IQ is defined as the ability to learn. Which has a huge, huge, huge affect on musical ability. If it was more accurate. But if you take a 30 points difference, its often noticable in real world terms.

Yes, exceptions, not perfect, blah blah.

Originally posted by Dreadnought
Uh, no.

I've seen people think there was a relation between intellegince and jazz, intelligence and classical, etc etc. Sounds like a lame attempt at ego-padding, to me...

:cheers:

I've never heard of a stupid jazz or shred player, and the best i know are all quite intelligent. Theres ego-padding, and theres the simple fact some genres are more challenging mentally, just as some are physically. To play them well, that is - there are plenty of stupid, bad players in any genre.

[Dreadnought]

Well no **** lol, to do ANYTHING well takes a certain degree of intelligence.

Hardly a basis for a statement like that lol

[Freepower]

It wasnt a statement.

"Im just wondering, is there a correlation between shred and high intelligence? It seems that way to me, anyhoo, opinions?"

Unless you count the statement that i see that correlation. Which was based off personal experience.

Would you go as far as to say do something particularly well, more intelligence would be an advantage? I see shred - good shred, obviously, it takes a monkey to shred badly, and shredding badly, isnt shred - as playing guitar very very well. And so it seems to require a bit more brains to do well.

Never met a dumb person who could shred well. Never heard of a dumb person who could. (lol, actually, one) And a lot of the people on this forum who are actually into their shred are pretty bright compared to the bulk of UG.

Im just saying, its not ego padding if it doesnt pad your ego and its true. *shrug*

[Dreadnought]

True, but there's really no basis for saying that.

I know a guy who's of about average intelligence who is a good shredder.

I just think that to be able to appreciate and accel at music PERIOD takes "intelligence", not that any genre's require more than others.

[gatpakermac]

I think there is a correlation between intelligence and shred but there are alwasy exceptions. To go further then that I would say goes by your own opinion.

did anyone actually GO to G3 this year? i will be purchasing the DVD on the 25 of October but till then I would love some info on it. (especially John P's performance against Vai's and Satch's)

[Four-Sticks]

Originally posted by Freepower
IQ is defined as the ability to learn. Which has a huge, huge, huge affect on musical ability. If it was more accurate. But if you take a 30 points difference, its often noticable in real world terms.

Yes, exceptions, not perfect, blah blah.

The ability to learn music greatly differs from the ability to solve math problems and riddles, which is all an IQ test seems to be. So IQ has no affect whatsoever on musical ability.

A person with a low musical aptitude can still have a very high ability to learn other things. It's not exactly uncommon. Also, there are lots of people who have learning disabilities who are complete masters of music.

Obviously music is more of an intellectual skill than a physical skill; so it takes a certain type of intelligence; but a person who is regarded as "smart" or "of high intelligence" doesn't necessarily have a better chance to accel musically as anyone else.

[The UG Squirrel]

hey guys, would anyone here have any allan holdsworth, al dimeola or john mcloughlin videos? im really interested in seeing these guys play

[Freepower]

^ winmx...

[RandyEllefson]

I guess I must be pretty smart then ;)

I don't think intelligence is the reason so much as what interests you. More sophisticated people tend to like more sophisticated music, but that's sophisitication, not intelligence. I know people who think they're sophisticated who aren't that smart and who don't know it.

[Beckerism]

Can someone please host the SMS jam with Jason Becker and Marty Friedman? I reaaaaaally need this. O_O.

www.yousendit.com

thanks.

[Axegrinder#9]

I think this is my first post on the Shred Forum after a long time, don't really get to visit UG much, college involves wayy to much studying and fun to come in here and argue pointlessly with some other moron in some hole somewhere - as much fun as that genuinely seems at times, it's just way too much more than the daily allowed dosage of bull****.

... and I'm right, the topics still remain the same, the guys still argue and bitch about the same things, every 5 seconds some fucking newbie comes up and posts a Marcus Paus thread, or thinks it is cool to bash Malmsteen so posts a thread to that effect... the song remains the same....

anyway, before our hon'able mods get all puffed up about this post, lemme say something interesting:

I've finally found a band to jam with here in college, and it's real cool, 'cos we share so many diverse interests, the keyboard player (my roomie) he likes playing Floyd, Billy Joel, and stuff like Duke Ellington and Thelonius monk, and plays guitar too, and is a neat finger picker and good singer as well. the bassist, he's into the whole jam-band scene, Phish, DMB, and listens to a lotta Victor Wooten and other funk-rock bands. we've got this girl who plays old school jazz drums, and then you've got yours truly, Axegrinder#9.

we've just completed our first song which we worked over on this weekend, sounds brilliant, and unlike anything I've really done before, mellow stuff, with some pretty nifty chordal superimpositions, and chord extensions, and of course you gotta throw in a bamf (that's badass mother****ing) guitar solo in somewhere at somepoint - but anyway, you guys stay tuned in while we record that stuff, and I'll put it here soon enough.

peace,
Axegrinder#9

[Freepower]

Good to hear from you. You know, some of us like to rise ABOVE the bull**** or report it.
Anyway, im glad to hear you've found some musically fullfilling relationships, hard to come by. Good work.

Have fun, just post every now and again, eh?

[metalfan]

I dont know if this goes here, but i couldent find anything on the search forums, so... i was wondering if someone can recomend to me where to start with Michael Schenker and UFO. i would like to know which is the best Van Halen in entretainment and guitar work. i tried the 80s... forum but didnt get an answer.

tksss

[pavan]

yey axegrinder

my life's taken a pretty strange turn too, not into studying at the moment but the next 4 yrs is gonna be a b!tch.

[Freepower]

I feel mildly cruel, but i find it hilarious - http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4115939#post4115939

My gf would love that, she thinks its hilarious when im a wanker.

EDIT: and check my swish new siggamatron.

[The UG Squirrel]

i dont know if this has been done before, but i was just listening to sword of the warrior, and was wondering....

whats the shred song/song with shredding with your favourite riffs?

[Resiliance]

^Paul Gilbert - Let The Computer Decide :D

[SnowballofDoom]

^Paul Gilbert - Let The Computer Decide :D

Same here, it's such a great song..

[Freepower]

Guys, im away to donegal with my gf and my family for the weekend. Dont expect me to post ;).

Lots of love (especially for resi, who will miss me more than the rest of you ****ers), free.

[Resiliance]

^Fare thee well... :(

[Beckerism]

Guys, im away to donegal with my gf and my family for the weekend. Dont expect me to post ;).

Lots of love (especially for resi, who will miss me more than the rest of you ****ers), free.

Make sure to have hot hot buttsechxs. :liplick:

[Axegrinder#9]

ohhh my fucking god - greatest video ever right here! just got it off Ares - a song called "Hear and Aid" which basically has all the greatest ****ing guitarplayers - Malmsteen, Brad Gillis, Viv Campbell, Neal Schon, Adrian Smith and Dave Murray, Craig Goldy, and more with Dio, Halford, Don Dokken, Bruce Dickinson and every other 80s vocalist - awesome ****ing video!


oh yeah you got george lynch too

http://www.dio.net/biography/sideprojects/HearNAid.html

[Resiliance]

^Fine, then DON'T supply us with the link you uploaded :p:


I'll just have to "acquire" it then. ;)


Edit: oh, it's the "We Are Stars" song, yeah, heard it :)

[Resiliance]

Well this is exciting...


(4000th post, woo)

[Freepower]

140th in this thread, you crazy double posting fool. Lets make this our private convo, seeing as no-one else cares.

Whatcha up to? Im ****ing wrecked - didnt sleep a wink last night, so im going to have to cancel a big jam scheduled for tonight. Completely ****ed i am.

Yourself?

[Resiliance]

I'm about to turn up for school tomorrow for the first time in 2 weeks again :p:

I don't feel like it.

I need to work now, but I probably won't and makeup some excuse.

Life sucks.

[Freepower]

^ pah, you have enough brains you'll do fine, and you know it. That said, all that wasted guitar time. :(

I've been at school again for a while, but it still annoys me. But im doing AS level music! :D Which is brilliant, even if i do have to work with notation more than i enjoy. That said, you gotta learn sometime. *shrug*

And my guitar teaching is going well, actually. Making about 20 quid a week, soon to be a bit more. Doing what i enjoy and getting paid for it is nice. Strangely im a better teacher than a guitarist, i think. Dunno. Helping people out on UG has helped me a lot, actually, seeing what problems they have.

[The UG Squirrel]

any of you guys like rusty cooleys music? im really digging under the influence, i think its great

[Resiliance]

^Yes, me and FP both.

[Freepower]

Aww, you spoke for me. But yeh, its true, rusty's brilliant.

Check out his new vids, insane chops, great melodies. Screw the naysayers.

[TheI7ark]

I'm going to have to agree. Rusty has some sexy chops... :liplick:

[Axegrinder#9]

yes he does... and I'm guna die

I have a computer project module design due in tomorrow, a 5 page English paper on "Sublimity" due in tomorrow as well, and to top it all I have a Calculus exam tomorrow evening...

losing.... necessary... cohesion....

[TheI7ark]

Calc isn't so bad... The module could be b*tch and English in general just plain blows.

[Axegrinder#9]

well none of it ain't bad, but it would've been a lot better if I could've just chilled out rather than writing a driver and class methods for a database or discussing Burke's ideas on the sublime and cross analysing them...

[sixteen times]

yes he does... and I'm guna die

I have a computer project module design due in tomorrow, a 5 page English paper on "Sublimity" due in tomorrow as well, and to top it all I have a Calculus exam tomorrow evening...

losing.... necessary... cohesion....

Ouch! Good luck with that.

And on topic: Rusty has some killer chops, and sure can write songs, but they're not exactly classics, are they?

:cheers:

[TheI7ark]

^ Yeah but define classic? If it's something that's for everything... You may as well abandon Shred entirely. Shred Classics? He's not old enough yet ;) . I find myself listening to "Under the Influence" quite often to be honest.

[Resiliance]

And on topic: Rusty has some killer chops, and sure can write songs, but they're not exactly classics, are they?

:cheers:


Well... No.


But then again, Far Beyond The Sun is a shred classic, and I can't stand the song.

[Freepower]

ditto for me and FTLOG.

UTI would be a classic were he more famous, methinks.

We've had this debate already. Few people are going to consider any cooley song that contains cooleyesque chops a classic, because they dont enjoy that kind of music. "Sandstorm" is a trance classic, but whether you enjoy it or not is completely unrelated. However, unlike trance, cooley will never have the fanbase (probably) to have a "classic" proclaimed by fans of that genre alone, and fans of closely related genres (ie, moderate shred) will see it as tasteless wank to show off.

*shrug*

And we've had this debate before, ST.

[Erc]

I'm actually having a growing taste for Rusty Cooley....


UTI is quite good.

[gatpakermac]

Tom Sawyer of Rush's I would say is a classic and is old enough I rekon. How many hours a day do some of you guys play (preferably some of the better players)?

[Axegrinder#9]

**** yea! I got an extension till Monday on my English essay!

EDIT: hahaha now my first class on Discrete Math got cancelled!

[Righteous]

Tom Sawyer of Rush's I would say is a classic and is old enough I rekon. How many hours a day do some of you guys play (preferably some of the better players)?

Sheisse...
As of late, not very much.
I hadn't played for two days before about an hour ago, there's just too much homework... During the summer I practiced for 2-4 on average. But I'm not a better player...

[Erc]

I am definently not a better player but I usually got in 4-5 hours a day during the summer...or at least tried to it varies, somedays its only 2-3, other days I have so much work and no spare time.

On average during the school year I play 2-3 sometimes more, I like to play more but...well yea I don't have the time and to keep my grades up...yeaaa =\

[Axegrinder#9]

haah I don't think I practice for more than 2-4 hours in a week ever

[Freepower]

2 hours a day, roughly.

[MankiiKing]

I used to play all day long last summer ( around 8 hours ). And I got heaps better, but now its just around 2 hours because of school. Im not that good of a player though.

[Resiliance]

haah I don't think I practice for more than 2-4 hours in a week ever

Yeah, same.

[Axegrinder#9]

no seriously, I don't. wasn't kidding

[pavan]

i practise four hours a week.







and i like calculus and mechanical engineering
and electronics
and chemistry

[Resiliance]

no seriously, I don't. wasn't kidding


....And nor was I.

[Axegrinder#9]

^ nice I was afraid I was the only guy out here who practiced less than 30 hours a day

[gatpakermac]

I practice about 2 hours a day I reckon but I'm prety ****, but Ive only been playing like a year and a half

[Beckerism]

3 to 5 hours a week.

[pavan]

^ nice I was afraid I was the only guy out here who practiced less than 30 hours a day

how could you forget me? I only get to play on sundays and maybe mondays.
anyway, I was called for a "hindi" band and they want to play some song by kk.

[Axegrinder#9]

heh sorry da, but hey I like KK's stuff, he's an awesome singer, and the songs "Pal" and "?Yaaron" both have pretty special memories

[Metalology]

I've forgotten how to calculate my NPS. I'd like to know for fun. Anyone know?

[Resiliance]

Well since nps = notes per second...

You take the note division (16th's=4,8th's=2, etc...), multiply it by the bpm, and divide it by 60.

[sixteen times]

haah I don't think I practice for more than 2-4 hours in a week ever


Me too. It gets me down just thinking about it. :(

[Axegrinder#9]

^ down? hell no, I feel mighty ****ing proud that I can tear it up just fine, when there are people with a million hours a day practice routines playing crap

[Freepower]

^ i think you need to cut down on the ego mate. :) Doubtless you'll respond in kind, but seriously, "I pwn you"? And the recent self-promotion makes you look like you think you're brilliant.

[John Kimble]

Do you guys mean you only play guitar 2-4 hours a week, or you only PRACTICE 2-4 hours a week?

It sounds like your proud that you dont practice, thats just stupid.

[gatpakermac]

Yeah thats nothing to be proud of you should practice more its fun.

[Beckerism]

Practice is playing for me. I dont work on scales. I learn songs that contain scailes etc. :p:

[TheArtOfDeth]

for me i try to practice about 2 hours each day, i thought i was WAY behind everybody on here, but apparently not

[Axegrinder#9]

practicing for me connotes something cerebral as well as physical, since I like to think about what I am playing, and I have fun doing that so the borderline between practicing and just playing for me is pretty thin - but if you want to stick to the strict definition, then that'd be my warm up routines which last for about 15-30 mins

[Axegrinder#9]

And the recent self-promotion makes you look like you think you're brilliant.

well you know... me just egoistic arrogant prick here...

[MankiiKing]

Hee hee I saw Vai yesterday. *giggles like a schoolgirl*

It was so fucking awesome. He played pretty much all of my favourite songs, (The audience is listening, Building the church, Midway Creatures, Lotus Feet, Freak show excess, K'm-pee-du-wee, FTLOG, and Drive the hell out of here there was some more but I cant remember them all) Vai is the coolest guy ever live. He was joking around all the time. Near the end he played My guitar wants to kill your mama with Eric Sardinas, A-we-some it was. :D Like G3 only without Satch. I was on the front row too.

I saw him before the show and he waved for me. And during the show he was talking about how he wished he could dance like Prince and pointed at me and said "This guy knows what I'm talking about." I'm so cool. :dance:

[gatpakermac]

I wish like jesus Steve Vai or John Petrucci would come to New Zealand... But I committed the ultimae sin and feel I should murder myself everytime I think about it... I missed Stach when he came!

[gatpakermac]

that by the way for people who can spell properly was 'ultimate' and 'Satch'

[pavan]

ah. that time of the year when exams are around and i have to ****ing study.
daaaaaaaaaaaa

( btw post no 666 )

[Scorzerci]

i'll usually play 1 to 2 hours a day but im not talented or whatever the phrase the guy who asked the question used

[sixteen times]

Hee hee I saw Vai yesterday. *giggles like a schoolgirl*

It was so fucking awesome. He played pretty much all of my favourite songs, (The audience is listening, Building the church, Midway Creatures, Lotus Feet, Freak show excess, K'm-pee-du-wee, FTLOG, and Drive the hell out of here there was some more but I cant remember them all) Vai is the coolest guy ever live. He was joking around all the time. Near the end he played My guitar wants to kill your mama with Eric Sardinas, A-we-some it was. :D Like G3 only without Satch. I was on the front row too.

I saw him before the show and he waved for me. And during the show he was talking about how he wished he could dance like Prince and pointed at me and said "This guy knows what I'm talking about." I'm so cool. :dance:

Sounds good. I'm going to see him in ...*checks calendar*... 11 days! :D

[Axegrinder#9]

#include <random.h>

wow, I'm pretty happy that I can consistently maintain 18-21 nps on picking, and around 16 on legato :cool:

unfortunately my sweeps have gone done, and for some reason, sweeping on the RG350DX is a lil' different, primarily cos the way the bridge is set - I'm trying to find an even ground when it comes to sweeping which I find easier on the Kramer than the Ibanez, and using legato which is easier on the Ibanez than the Kramer

[Freepower]

^ sounding good. I'll probably be at that technical standard in about 5 years. If ever, lol. Pity about the sweeps - but legato and picking are generally more flexible in a playing situation.

[Dreadnought]

IMHO, the RG350DX really isn't a good guitar... but that's just, of course, personal preference.

I found the neck unfriendly, the body uncomfortable, and the tone pretty stale. I too found sweeping on it to be rather lackluster, and not encouraging at all.

And btw, Freepower, you must not be practicing right if you think it'll take you a long time to get that good.

[Axegrinder#9]

naa I think it's great for legato playing, and picking to my standard level took a lil' time, but it's there now ... just the sweeping ...

[Freepower]

And btw, Freepower, you must not be practicing right if you think it'll take you a long time to get that good.

Picking 20nps on an actual picking RUN that makes musical sense is much harder than this forum's attitude would have you believe. Im around 200bpm on my favourite runs, all simple inside picking stretch licks, i honestly can't see a rapid improvement happening in speed - currently im working on being able to play complex runs, as opposed to fast simple runs (no offense axey, not disparaging your runs, just saying that im working on mid speed complexity and perfection rather than trying to break the speed limit - been there, done that ;) ).

I have a lot of bad habits in my playing and no-one to play with, really, so improvement technique wise takes time.

I said 5 years, that's what i call realistic.

How good are you? What do you practice? I think you'll find a lot of people on this board give off a false impression - not deliberately - of competance they dont have, simply due to the nature of how you compare chops over the net - of the people i have HEARD, only a few strike me as good.

Simply put, people tend to put out their best, their "consistant top scores" in everything, as opposed to how they play on an average day. Doing 5 repeats of a lick at 200bpm doesnt count as being able to alternate pick at 200bpm, being able to confidently handle yourself as a player a 200bpm with alternate picking, IS - in my eyes, whether the bare bones facts are that simple or not, i think taking realistic playing scenarios into effect is a much under-valued trait.

[Archaon]

*busts out a guitar solo*


...sorry

There's nothing wrong with FP being honest by saying it will take him 5 years. I'm sure he could pull it off in less time though.

[Ibanez_rawker]

what do you practice if you want to get good at shredding?

[The UG Squirrel]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DMF08VQI


shawn lane at 16.

[WyldeGibsonPlyr]

Wow, I havent posted in here for ages! :eek:

Even though most of you go to SU, so I still get the chat out. :p:

[apocalypse13]

what do you practice if you want to get good at shredding? Visit the links at the first page of this thread. Work on shred exercises.

www.insaneguitar.com and
www.theshredzone.com are my favorites.


I'm going to see Yngwie the 19th. :headbang:

[The UG Squirrel]

also, www.chopsfromhell.com


and make sure to tell us how the yngwie concert goes!

[apocalypse13]

also, www.chopsfromhell.com


and make sure to tell us how the yngwie concert goes!I couldn't figure that site out, is it just a DVD market or does it have exercises too?

I don't have tickets yet, but I'm allowed to go.

Edit- NVM, I just found the instruction archives, now I feel stupid.

Edit 2- I just saw videos of Rusty Cooley. Holy Shit.

[The UG Squirrel]

^ did you see the vids of rusty on chops from hell or his homepage?

www.rustycooley.com has great videos of him.

on the topic of rusty cooley, im interested in what outworlds debut release (to be released in 2006) is going to be like.

[wil]

I would have to agree with Freepower in that id rather play something intricate than something out and fast, i often become very disillusioned when i aim for out and out speed because everyone has a speed barrier and when i inevitably fail to keep up with my idols, i end up LESS inspired to perservere. However, if i then stick on some jazz and learn some, tricky but not insane, runs or learn a classical piece i find myself more inclined to carry on.
It might not help that i play a Les Paul Studio which are not world renowned for their playability- However, after watching Zakk Wylde's 'warm up' on a Total Guitar CD Rom, and being reminded that Randy Rhoads and Marty Friedman have both used them, i decided to perservere with the Gibson and when i tried an Ibanez over the summer, i ****ing killed the thing, so my aim is to reach that level of playability on the Les Paul.

[pavan]

Steve Vai has a Les Paul, and he once said that it felt like a different instrument.

Personally, I hate the tone of a LP.

[wil]

it all depends really, if you dont set the amp up properly then the LP does sound a bit dodgy, it's harder to get a glassy clean sound, but with a decent amount of distortion i find it sounds pretty full and can be great between changing between rhythym and lead- I tend to find with Strats or superstrats, that you can set it up to sound great for chords or great for lead, but its difficult to get a mixture, dont bash me its just my thoughts and preference and being as im not a huge pedal freak, this really annoys me.
Obviously id love a Paul Gilbert Ibanez, but i aint got the cash at the minute.

[pavan]

haha I'm not a pedal freak myself. It all depends on the player. Jeff Beck, for instance can move you with even a ukelele.

entire city flooded, no college tomorrow. :D :D :cool: :cool:

[apocalypse13]

^ did you see the vids of rusty on chops from hell or his homepage?

www.rustycooley.com has great videos of him.

on the topic of rusty cooley, im interested in what outworlds debut release (to be released in 2006) is going to be like.
I saw him on CFH. I'll check into his vids on his homepage.

[The UG Squirrel]

check out under the influence for a good example of his playing.

[wil]

in the latest guitar world steve vai gets asked a load of questions by his fans and one of them refers to a statement he made in one of his '30 hour workouts' about certain shredders who are faster than him. Vai responds saying that, amongst others, Yngwie and Dimebag are cleaner and faster than him.
I'm not convinced from what ive heard of all 3 of artists, i know that cooley, STump, Angelo etc can more than likely play out and out faster than Vai, but do you guys just think he's being respectful or what?

[Freepower]

He's right, there are faster and cleaner than him, he's not a moron. :)

It's not just being respectful, he IS respectful, he's always had nothing but respect for at least yngwie and obviously satch, i dont know about others, but the guy gives off a great impression of respect and admiration for all musicians.

Vai is blinding fast, and complex, and definately virtuistic, but he's said himself "If i could improv that ****, i would be as good as some people think i am". Vai's strengths are his ears, brains and theory knowledge, which are backed up by his formidable technique - which is FLEXIBLE rather than FAST, it's a very fluid usable technique idiom. Personally, i'd say he would know, but also lets bear in mind he's barely saying he believes he can't play - he knows he can, he just believes others are faster and cleaner, as everyone SHOULD believe until proved otherwise. ;)

[public property]

^ Hmmm...yngwie maybe, although he learnt an entire alcatrazz setlist in one day, but dimebag maybe not...I remember him saying he liked his tone though. Anyways, I agree hes got a wide range of technique, even though he dosen't use them at a blinding speed most of the time (although still too fast for me to play :( )

[Freepower]

^ lol, you do better than me, you hardworking bastard.

Reminds me, must practice my alternate picking. Relearning whole technique to become an unanchored oscillating benson picker...from pretty much the opposite of all those...

[Resiliance]

^OH OH OH, use English, you techno mumbo-jumbo talker. :D

[public property]

^ freepower, (see i'm being serious now I used your real name) a particularly good run you should try to get your picking and up is the run about halfway through the attitude song.

[Beckerism]

I dont really listen to Pantera, but can anyone give me a melodic but fast run/solo of dimebags? (Available on powertab/mysongbook(gp4)) please. :D

[priest.fan.]

ok, while we are on the topic of yngwie, I may as well ask this

theres a song that sounds very classical to me, I have two videos of it on my computer. If you watch the G3 in denver video, yngwie plays this song right after his acoustic solo... anyone know what song this is/where I could find tabs to it?

[Axegrinder#9]

perhaps you're talking about the intro to "Icarus' Dream Suite"

[Axegrinder#9]

I dont really listen to Pantera, but can anyone give me a melodic but fast run/solo of dimebags? (Available on powertab/mysongbook(gp4)) please. :D

one of my favourite solos of Dimebag's is the solo in "Floods"

[Beckerism]

one of my favourite solos of Dimebag's is the solo in "Floods"

Nice. That song sounded neat. Do you know any songs where he plays quickly though?

[priest.fan.]

perhaps you're talking about the intro to "Icarus' Dream Suite"

hmm, the main song does sound like it, but the intro to icarus' dream suite seem to be chords, whereas what I'm talking about is how he does some bends with vibrato at the beginning... I suppose I'll just figure it out

perhaps he plays it different live than the studio recording?

[Beckerism]

Happy Birthday Axey. Today is the day right? :)

[apocalypse13]

Nice. That song sounded neat. Do you know any songs where he plays quickly though? Domination is one of his fastest. Some other good ones you may like: Walk, I'm Broken, This Love, Cemetery Gates, Drag the Waters, Hole in the Sky, and Revolution is My Name. Also, Planet Caravan has a very enjoyable and bluesy solo. Dime has a really kick-ass legato and a nice tremelo picking technique, but I don't think he's faster than Vai.

Fastest- Domination, Walk, Revolution is My Name and I'm Broken.

Cheers to Floods as well. That is one of my top 3 favorite Pantera songs. Did you hear the whole thing, or just download the solo? Because it's got good everything.
:cheers:

check out under the influence for a good example of his playing. I'm going to get his CD in a few weeks. It's got that song on it and I can't wait.

[Axegrinder#9]

hmm, the main song does sound like it, but the intro to icarus' dream suite seem to be chords, whereas what I'm talking about is how he does some bends with vibrato at the beginning... I suppose I'll just figure it out

perhaps he plays it different live than the studio recording?

naa it's the same song, my bad - I meant the first guitar melody in "Icarus' Dream Suite"

and hey, thanks Beckerism, guess who I share my b'day with??

:devil: Nicolo Paganini :devil:

[wil]

Nice. That song sounded neat. Do you know any songs where he plays quickly though?


Dimebag had an incredibly clean tremelo picking technique. Listen to Domination for an example.

I know Vai is very respectful of yngwie and satch- he said he felt like a little valley surrounded by 2 mountains on the g3 tour- but im pretty sure Vai could play anything Yngwie can and more, its just as Freepower and vai himself has said, hes not really into the whole machine gun picking thing, his style is much more fluid and legato.

As far as that Attitude SOng bit goes- :eek:

[The UG Squirrel]

naa it's the same song, my bad - I meant the first guitar melody in "Icarus' Dream Suite"

and hey, thanks Beckerism, guess who I share my b'day with??

:devil: Nicolo Paganini :devil:

i share mine with becker. well i nearly win.

[The UG Squirrel]

ok, while we are on the topic of yngwie, I may as well ask this

theres a song that sounds very classical to me, I have two videos of it on my computer. If you watch the G3 in denver video, yngwie plays this song right after his acoustic solo... anyone know what song this is/where I could find tabs to it?

on the dvd, its listed as 'adagio', which some of it is also in icarus dream suite.

[pavan]

well, Blackmore was born on April 14th, me April 13th.

I made a thread which might interest you fellas
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273899

[MankiiKing]

I dont really listen to Pantera, but can anyone give me a melodic but fast run/solo of dimebags? (Available on powertab/mysongbook(gp4)) please. :D

You've got to check out Hollow. Its one of his best solos, I was learning it just now. The fast run in it is orgasmic. :liplick:

Edit: Avoid the light has a great melodic solo too, but I dont think that its tabbed anywhere. Still definetly worth a listen.

[Beckerism]

You've got to check out Hollow. Its one of his best solos, I was learning it just now. The fast run in it is orgasmic. :liplick:

Edit: Avoid the light has a great melodic solo too, but I dont think that its tabbed anywhere. Still definetly worth a listen.

That did sound nice in Hollow , but was short :(. Thanks for the suggestions guys. :p:

Now another question, someone please recommend a classical song that is anywhere from medium to hard skill wise, but sounds nice? E.g. Desiderata, Air, Dee, etc.

(In shred forum because the artist where shredders, and classical forum sucks. :p: )

[pavan]

rain gods dance to pavan's guitar! no college tomorrow and the day after !

[priest.fan.]

well, Blackmore was born on April 14th, me April 13th.

I made a thread which might interest you fellas
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273899

I was born on april 13 too :eek:

[apocalypse13]

I finally got my Yngwie tickets! Nov 19. :headbang:

Beckerism- A good classical sounding song is Love Song by Tesla. The intro is really cool. Dee is the only classical song I know, along with some acoustic fills from Megadeth songs, if you want to consider that classical. Love Song would be my recommendation though.

[Beckerism]

I finally got my Yngwie tickets! Nov 19. :headbang:

Beckerism- A good classical sounding song is Love Song by Tesla. The intro is really cool. Dee is the only classical song I know, along with some acoustic fills from Megadeth songs, if you want to consider that classical. Love Song would be my recommendation though.


Awesome. Thanks for the suggestion, do you got any more? :p: This is pretty much exactly what kind of song i'm looking for, except for the classical part to be abit more difficult (technically)

[hammettwyldefan]

Has any one went out and got the new G3 dvd. If you got it how good was it?

[apocalypse13]

Awesome. Thanks for the suggestion, do you got any more? :p: This is pretty much exactly what kind of song i'm looking for, except for the classical part to be abit more difficult (technically)Sorry, that's the only one I know of. It is a cool song though. :)
:cheers:

Edit- I just thought of one!
Icarus Dream Suite by Yngwie is very, very classical sounding. It's not overwhelmingly hard either. Some other songs by him have acoustic parts that sound classic (ie: Evil Eye, Black Star) but I'm sure you've heard them. I would go for Icarus Dream Suite, the whole song is beautiful, namely the first 3 or 4 minutes. The rest is pretty tough. (Better brush up on vibrato technique;))

[Beckerism]

Sorry, that's the only one I know of. It is a cool song though. :)
:cheers:

Edit- I just thought of one!
Icarus Dream Suite by Yngwie is very, very classical sounding. It's not overwhelmingly hard either. Some other songs by him have acoustic parts that sound classic (ie: Evil Eye, Black Star) but I'm sure you've heard them. I would go for Icarus Dream Suite, the whole song is beautiful, namely the first 3 or 4 minutes. The rest is pretty tough. (Better brush up on vibrato technique;))


Thanks for the suggestion. :p: Only thing is that I can already play it. :D Keep them coming though.

[Lacrymosa]

Not really a pantera/dimebag fan but check out Cementary Gates and Cowboys From Hell :cool:

[flamencogod]

too beckerism: Tried to send you classical suggestions but your inbox is full...

I'd recomand sor's etudes
leyanda/asturias - albeniz isaac is very nice too

[Beckerism]

too beckerism: Tried to send you classical suggestions but your inbox is full...

I'd recomand sor's etudes
leyanda/asturias - albeniz isaac is very nice too

Thanks for the suggestions. :) But what is up with this? When I search powertab I just get some guy named Leo Brouwer. o_O This is the wrong person right? Only thing that came up when I searched etudes.

[wil]

Are you talking like, Classical Guitar fingerpicked stuff or Yngwie style stuff that you can play with single notes?
If it's the former then i suggest you learn Bach's Prelude or Jesu, Joy of Man, play them at a moderate tempo, they're harder than Dee IMO and sound great unaccompanied.
Or learn flight of the bumblebee fingerstyle.

[Beckerism]

Fingerpickin stuff. Thanks for the songs. I'm lookin them up right now. :)

[Dreadnought]

I think he means Sor's ESTUDIOS, not etude's.... Villa-Lobos has the large collection of etudes, not Sor.

All his powertabs: http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=artist,586

I responded to your thread in Acoustic btw

[Beckerism]

Thanks bud. Lookin up the suggestions right now. :liplick:

[wil]

I saw JOhn WIlliams- the classical guitarist, not the film scorer- on telly the other week and it absolutely slayed me. His techique was immaculate, i dont know what he was playing, some kind of european country dance type stuff but he was doing some of the biggest barres ive ever seen, way, way up the neck, where most peoples fingering would become hindered but he kept this gorgeous flowing melody all the way through.

Look up some footage of him playing for some classical inspiration.

[Axegrinder#9]

heh I had to post this... whaddya think?

http://i03-2.facebook.com/pics/7/6/n13806754_5989.jpg

[Dreadnought]

I saw JOhn WIlliams- the classical guitarist, not the film scorer- on telly the other week and it absolutely slayed me. His techique was immaculate, i dont know what he was playing, some kind of european country dance type stuff but he was doing some of the biggest barres ive ever seen, way, way up the neck, where most peoples fingering would become hindered but he kept this gorgeous flowing melody all the way through.

Look up some footage of him playing for some classical inspiration.


You're just now discovering John Williams? lol

Yes, he's an amazing player as well as composer. His Aeolian Suite (on the album The Guitarist) kicks immense ass.

I'm using a lot of his rhythmic ideas for Koyunbaba in my covers (check it out :D - http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276713 )

Yea i'm shameless, so what

[flamencogod]

yeah, dreadnought thanks for helping me out. etude's was the dutch name for it :)

[priest.fan.]

heh I had to post this... whaddya think?

http://i03-2.facebook.com/pics/7/6/n13806754_5989.jpg

um... is it you?


I like the leather :liplick:

[Axegrinder#9]

indeed^

[Freepower]

Too much posing, too much leather, not enough guitar wank. ;)

[Axegrinder#9]

hahaa, naaa I was basically going for the Eric Draven/The Crow look which I believe came off quite well...

[Freepower]

lol, it did.

I've done the whole goth thing, stopped hanging around them guys when the local ones all turned into assholes, but i love the look. Ah, for the days of safety pins through my lip and three inch spiked hair. :(

[Resiliance]

^Stop, your scaring me.

[Freepower]

When you make a grammatical error, its a sure sign of the apocalypse. What's annoying is that it isnt your mother tongue and you hold a debate better than anyone in my class. In a grammar school.

Had a formal with Aoife yesterday, i'll get you guys some cute pics and gloat about how you all cuddle your cold cold ibanez guitars at night.

[Resiliance]

Well **** me three times and call me Freepower, I was in a hurry :(


And by the way, my Ibanez HAS A BIT OF PAINT CHIPPED OFF...

AHHH, THE CHARACTER! :D

[Axegrinder#9]

ahhh sublimity - ****ing retards had been working on encoding a project for the better part of 3-4 days while I was shredding and partying, came in today and coded the whole thing in 6 hours straight.... sublimity indeed

[wil]

You're just now discovering John Williams? lol

Yes, he's an amazing player as well as composer. His Aeolian Suite (on the album The Guitarist) kicks immense ass.

I'm using a lot of his rhythmic ideas for Koyunbaba in my covers (check it out :D - http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276713 )

Yea i'm shameless, so what

No, i 'discovered' him soon after i took up the guitar, but SEEING him- albeit only on Tv- is what blew me away. I think id do almost anything to be able to play like that.

[pavan]

PG Wodehouse is the Frank Zappa of literature.

[wil]

Charles Dickens in the Michael Angelo Batio of Literature- Technically perfect and very interesting, yet at the same time, boring and overblown. (puts on a helmet and jumps in to the nearest bunker.)

[OfficerDickhead]

The 101 rules of prog :

http://www.metalstorm.ee/fun/view_fun.php?id=18

:haha

[Dreadnought]

No, i 'discovered' him soon after i took up the guitar, but SEEING him- albeit only on Tv- is what blew me away. I think id do almost anything to be able to play like that.

Well here, now you can see some others:

http://board4.cgiworld.net/list.cgi?id=koh0130&now=1

[SnowballofDoom]

The 101 rules of prog :

http://www.metalstorm.ee/fun/view_fun.php?id=18

:haha

:haha

I'm guilty of quite a few of those...

[apocalypse13]

PG Wodehouse is the Frank Zappa of literature.Not much of shred, but I have to post this. It was on a Zakk Wylde News Forum on the Main Page:

Interviewer: So, Frank, you have long hair, does that make you a woman?

Zappa: You have a wooden leg, does that make you a table?

:haha :haha

Pure gold.

[Resiliance]

^He has more hilarious ones ;)

[apocalypse13]

^ That's the only one I've seen. Is there a website with Zappa burns?

[The UG Squirrel]

^Just google "frank zappa quotes"

[Freepower]

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=277248

Lookie! I did dance music!

[beaker]

man alot of that stuff is really good! some reminds me of godspeed you black emperor and brian eno..very interesting

[apocalypse13]

Has anyone heard about how Marty and Jason did Concerto live?

At a certain point in the solo, Marty would fret his neck, Jason would play the strings. While Jason fretted his neck, Marty played his strings. Not easy to acheive in an easy song, but Concerto?

Insanity....

[beaker]

bruce and paul did that at racer x concerts

[Resiliance]

^Yep.

[Beckerism]

Has anyone heard about how Marty and Jason did Concerto live?

At a certain point in the solo, Marty would fret his neck, Jason would play the strings. While Jason fretted his neck, Marty played his strings. Not easy to acheive in an easy song, but Concerto?

Insanity....

I wish someone had a video of that. :D

[wil]

Seen Vai, his other guitarist whose name escapes me, and Billy Sheehan do that kind of thing on G3 but id MUCH rather see the cacophony do it. The g3 one seemed kinda cheesy and a bit well...phallic for me.

[Freepower]

^ yeh, for the first time in life i gave credit to freud and his penis symbolism. And the way they grin at each other is a little bit TOO intimate...

[wil]

^ yeh, for the first time in life i gave credit to freud and his penis symbolism. And the way they grin at each other is a little bit TOO intimate...

That's exactly what i thought when i saw it...it kinda made me squirm uneasily a bit.

[Freepower]

Yeh, its not what you'd show to your mother to convince her that shred doesnt corrupt your soul like that heavy metal nonsense...

[public property]

Shred does ruin your soul though, it creates socially inept individuals with no desire to work. But I was like this anyway, so I am immune to its effects.

[pavan]

Has anyone heard about how Marty and Jason did Concerto live?

At a certain point in the solo, Marty would fret his neck, Jason would play the strings. While Jason fretted his neck, Marty played his strings. Not easy to acheive in an easy song, but Concerto?

Insanity....

Friedman said somewhere that they practised that song so much that they could play it in their sleep.

[wil]

Yeh, its not what you'd show to your mother to convince her that shred doesnt corrupt your soul like that heavy metal nonsense...

Its not something you'd show to ANY non-guitarist, hell, im a guitarist and i sort of skip past it, however virtuosic it is...

[pavan]

The 101 rules of prog :

http://www.metalstorm.ee/fun/view_fun.php?id=18

:haha

Has many Axegrinder's songs mentioned in it............

[wil]

That site is hilarious because it's true. I ask one of my mate's if a totally obscure prog band are any good, he sticks on the CD, winds forward to a mindboggling synth/guitar unison solo and looks at me, eyes raised, not saying anything...

[Freepower]

Rather like when i introduce people to noise, and i stick on "Ass ****ers" when "Doesnt Gonna Work On Me, Canadian" would more than suffice.

People always tend to demonstrate the most extreme and defining feature of each genre, when actually, that's not really what attracts people in the first place.

[Freepower]

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/991/

THIS IS IMPOSSIBLY AWESOME!

*dies of laughter*

[apocalypse13]

I wish someone had a video of that. :DHell Yes. That would rock.

Friedman said somewhere that they practised that song so much that they could play it in their sleep. His website. In the "Story Behind the Song" Section.

[Beckerism]

^ Can I get a link to that? Looked. Me=Stupified.

[SnowballofDoom]

http://martyfriedman.com/news-detail.php?id=30&sub=Story%20Behind%20The%20Song