** The Random Shred Chat Thread **

[Beckerism]

http://martyfriedman.com/news-detail.php?id=30&sub=Story%20Behind%20The%20Song
:cheers: Thanks bud.

[Tarakoch]

I have seen an RG450 for 300 bucks ( 2nd hand ) at my local musicstore. It looks hot, (pink/purple. With black pickguard ) I know a lot about Ibanez but I am not too sure about this : Is the RG450 japan made ? and what are the spechs(sp?) ?

[public property]

Freepower....what...the ...hell lol

[Freepower]

^ the cat video currently up on compfused is literally the funniest thing i've seen on the internet. I watched a sibling literally wet themselves laughing at it, and i couldnt breath or move to turn it off and delay the warm wet doom.

[pavan]

quick question : what was the first band that got you into music?


mine was the Beatles, when I was 9

[Resiliance]

Pink Floyd & Mike Oldfield - From age 0 on :)

[Freepower]

That's a really hard question, but it was a mixture of mid 90s trance and REM. Out of time was the first album i owned and i loved it.

My initial loves were the beatles, rory gallagher, bob dylan, my parent's stuff basically, but i really started being really into music with dance and REM.

And then i was (am) a huge obsessive muse fan, without matt bellamy i'd never have picked up a guitar. Now i love music more and more as time goes on, life is good. :)

[Axegrinder#9]

heh I guess it'd be Pink Floyd, GnR, The Doors, Dire Straits, Eagles and heh Bryan Adams

[Erc]

Well....uh I've always been music oriented but what pretty much lead me up to now was from being a Nu-metal kiddie when I was about 9 (I also listened to rap at that time...) and then I started listening to Ozzy and Iron Maiden and then Beatles, Pink Floyd, and a lot of classic rock and then to heavier and heavier metal from just things like BLS, Metallica and Pantera down to what I listen to now like Nile and Morbid Angel.

Oh and also from pink floyd I got into more prog stuff and uh the metal lead me to shred.

[IgnoreThis]

Erm..... Eminem.
Then Linkin Park :sad:.

[Igorek]

quick question : what was the first band that got you into music?


mine was the Beatles, when I was 9

Deep Purple, Queen, Pink floyd

[Dreadnought]

Pink Floyd & Mike Oldfield - From age 0 on :)

Mike Oldfield is amazing.. he's such a genius

For me it's probably Smash Mouth, Sugar Ray, Tool, and Metallica

[apocalypse13]

Pink Floyd and then Metallica.

[SnowballofDoom]

Probably my parents' old Simon & Garfunkel albums...

[apocalypse13]

Oh snap!
I just learned the Concerto main riff! It's not that hard, but it freaking rocks. :headbang:

[Scorzerci]

dr. bombay (this awesome swedish wannabe indian techno artist), the offspring and smurg hits (haha yes smurf hits. it was just smurfs doing remixes of popular songs at that time and changing the lyrics to something about smurfs)

[Slashfan_666]

ive got a problem


my epi les paul doesnt shred!!! its got very little frets!!! any guitar i can buy that is ideal for shredding

[Scorzerci]

the ibanez rg series is good for shredding but keep in mind that just becasue you get a "shred guitar" you won't just become a great shredder. even though it will be a lot easier to shred on an rg than a les paul remember that its your hand that makes the big difference.

[Axegrinder#9]

hahah I'm guna be participate in the collective unleashing of the focking fury when I see Yngwie J. Malmsteen on the 18th of November!!

hell yeah! and I finally managed to d/l the whole of "Unleash the Fury" and I shall review it later on. suffice it to say that it's one of the strongest Malmsteen releases post 1990s "Eclipse" and '97s "Facing the Animal"

[Freepower]

Post 1990 AND 97? :confused:

Im not being a smartass, im actually wondering what you mean.

[Axegrinder#9]

^ heh I meant post 1990's "Eclipse" barring 97's "Facing the Animal"

[HammerForce]

Hey check out this guy

http://www.cyrillepizzera.com

I think he has some pretty awesome chops...And if anyone knows what kind of guitar that is that he plays can they let me know because I think it's absolutely awesome.

[Resiliance]

^An Ibanez JEM.

[Lacrymosa]

^An Ibanez JEM.

Yeah. The 10th anniversary one right ? It looks amazing, I would trade all my guitars for that beauty :D

[Resiliance]

I think it's ugly :p:


*awaits flaming*

[power freak]

I think it's ugly :p:


:cheers:

[Freepower]

^ LOVE YOUR GODDAMN SIG POWERFREAK!


LOllas omgodzor!

Sorry, i noticed i was typing all caps. :p:

[public property]

I think its a beatiful guitar. But I'm rather have PIA the guitar, you sickos. Its a jem but its got a piezo(sp?) as well and two jack inputs, one for the piezo, so you can output to two amps and get the effect of an acoustic and electric playing at the same time.

[pavan]

the high-end jems are amazing works of art

[wil]

They are absolutely gorgeous to play as well, i played one- as well as a Paul Gilbert Ibanez- and being a Gibson player, i found the Ibanez's damn near played themselves.

[apocalypse13]

hahah I'm guna be participate in the collective unleashing of the focking fury when I see Yngwie J. Malmsteen on the 18th of November!!

hell yeah! and I finally managed to d/l the whole of "Unleash the Fury" and I shall review it later on. suffice it to say that it's one of the strongest Malmsteen releases post 1990s "Eclipse" and '97s "Facing the Animal"I'm gonna particapate in unleashing the focking fury the 19th of November! 1 week from today. Hell Yeah.

Question to initate conversation:

What's your favorite Cacophony song?
I'm gonna say my favorite is Concerto.

[cool_geek_dude]

my outworld ep arrived today, its pretty good, anyone else here heard it? My fave song is city of the dead

[pavan]

I'm gonna particapate in unleashing the focking fury the 19th of November! 1 week from today. Hell Yeah.

Question to initate conversation:

What's your favorite Cacophony song?
I'm gonna say my favorite is Concerto.

Speed Metal Symphony maybe. I like all of their stuff. Cant stand the vocals though.

[Resiliance]

Images, by far.

[Beckerism]

Jewel.

Not really by Cacophony, but by Marty Featuring Jason, so basically same thing. :p:

[apocalypse13]

Beckerism, Your new sig is gold.

[Dreadnought]

Images or Black Cat

[Righteous]

I've only heard 3 of their songs, but Images kicks serious ass.

[wil]

Concerto because i can play it.

[apocalypse13]

^How much? I'm learning it now.

[wil]

i can play pretty much the whole thing except for jason's first solo at the start- its not really all that clean, but i working really hard on it- its one of my favourite tunes at the minute.

[apocalypse13]

That's cool, but I think Jason's solo is easier than some of the other parts. I think some of the sweeping is crazy, but yeah, it's all hard to nail cleanly.

Can anyone provide a link to download "Nottingham Lace" by Buckethead? I can't find it on his website, but someone said it's on there. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Beckerism]

like say the lyrics are like:
"and the dog barks to the moon"

emo kid:
"OMFG I CAN SO RELATE TO THIS SONG, ITS LIEK THE DOG IS A METAPHOR FOR LIEK MY MOM AND THE BARK SYMBOLIZES YELLING AND LIK IM TEH MOON. LIFE IS SO UNFAIR, WHAT A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO INFLICT SELF HARM. :(:(:(:(:("




Sig worthy. I'm full. Someone take it. :p:

[Beckerism]

http://www.guitar-tab-world.com/guitar-tabs/Jason-Becker/mabel-video-tab.html

Anyone heard of this video? :confused:

[apocalypse13]

No, it'd be kick-ass though.

Marty Friedman says he has a "surprise" next year. Anyone think what it might be?
I really hope it's a tour.

What was the UG Top Dog? A shredding competition? Who won?

[Hammett88]

dudes, is George Lynch considered a shredder? he's one monster guiatrist if not..

[Resiliance]

^Yes he is.

[sixteen times]

dudes, is George Lynch considered a shredder? he's one monster guiatrist if not..

I'd say so.

:cheers:

[kirkisking]

Wow, Symphony X's The Damnation Game is a biotch to learn. But you know, I'm not quitting on it.

[pavan]

welcome back 16 times. its been a long time

[Resiliance]

^Innit.

[pavan]

i think she was banned

[Beckerism]

http://guitar.about.com/library/bl100greatestd.htm

Look at number 42.... :p:

[apocalypse13]

^That list is the website that got me into guitar solos, and really broadened my horizons.

[pavan]

song: While My Guitar Gently Weeps
guitarist: Eric Clapton
band: The Beatles
album: The White Album





heh

[Freepower]

I think they're missing both "All along the watchtower (shawn lane version)" and "Get you back" - also by the masta.

[pavan]

they are missing a lot of things.
but again, who cares

[Freepower]

^ yeh, actually, lets not start that conversation. Instead lets look at my new chinese techno song. ;)

[Resiliance]

http://guitar.about.com/library/bl100greatestd.htm

Look at number 42.... :p:

I don't really get what's so special... Clapton did do it, you know... :confused:

[sixteen times]

i think she was banned

She?!

[Resiliance]

^Yeah, I was wondering about that too... :p:

[Axegrinder#9]

I believe I have been redeemed for all my past sins, for I engaged in an intimate ceremony with God last night... and he unleashed the focking fury...

[sixteen times]

Ermm... I went to see Alter Bridge last week. I was on the front row right infront of Mark. He's great. What do you guys think of him?


*I got his and Myles' picks :D*

[apocalypse13]

I believe I have been redeemed for all my past sins, for I engaged in an intimate ceremony with God last night... and he unleashed the focking fury... Yeah, I just got home from Yngwie, and it was teh roxors. And my first concert.

[Scorzerci]

i think mark tremonti is great but he did an exclusive track for Total guitar that i dont think was very good. IMO it sounds like a bunch of riffs and licks just randomly put together. I was going to go see alter bridge but then it turned out that i was gonna be in london the day of the concert so i couldn't go:(.

[sixteen times]

i think mark tremonti is great but he did an exclusive track for Total guitar that i dont think was very good. IMO it sounds like a bunch of riffs and licks just randomly put together. I was going to go see alter bridge but then it turned out that i was gonna be in london the day of the concert so i couldn't go:(.

Damn. Alter Brdige are awesome live. Great crowd interaction and great songs. Broken Wings, with with the whole crowd singing along at the top of their voices, was really something.

I enjoyed seeing Alter Bridge live more than I enjoyed seeing Vai live. By quite a bit. :p:


:cheers:

[wil]

Firstly, why has someone pointed out that in some random internet list that Clapton's While My Guitar gently weeps solo is number 42? Am i missing something? I think it's a great solo, its not technically flashy but it fits the song so well. Cant say ive heard Shawn Lane's All Along the Watchtower solo...

Secondly, Alter Bridge are OK, very much like Creed- not always a good thing- but Tremonti has pretty good chops and i suppose its good to see mainstream players playing well. I didnt like that Total guitar thing he did, it sounds like me noodling around in the harmonic minor scale, its not really original or anything. Gilbert's lesson in that issue on harminc minor string skipping 3 note per string runs was infinitely more inspiring.

[apocalypse13]

Last night at the concert, I got a Rising Force shirt, and had it and my ticket signed by the drummer. I also caught a pick.

[Freepower]

Firstly, why has someone pointed out that in some random internet list that Clapton's While My Guitar gently weeps solo is number 42? Am i missing something? I think it's a great solo, its not technically flashy but it fits the song so well. Cant say ive heard Shawn Lane's All Along the Watchtower solo...

I think its an awesome solo too, gotta say.

And as for AATW - its a different "feel" from hendrix's version, but the rhythm playing is just incredibly divine, every fill is a godly fill, there's a sneaky little stretch lick that just sounds sooooo good, there's a brilliant bit of phrasing on one note, fantastic embellishment of an original melody, and then a huge diminished wank fest while the band cut out for a while.

I was almost dissapointed when the song dissolved into that, it does break the mood a little, but the rest is divine, and the diminished stuff DOES play a role in the end...

Its a great solo, but its one you have to pay attention to all through, y'know? It's not like you can just jump in and think "Nice lick" "Nice lick"... its a whole solo, and any individual part would sound only half as good without the rest.

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=18STC4B7CNAJD0GXGWJOD7N8SQ

My favourite solo atm.

Gilbert's lesson in that issue on harminc minor string skipping 3 note per string runs was infinitely more inspiring.

Enlighten me? Id be interested. :)

[Beckerism]

My mistake, I didn't realize that Clapton played that song, and thought they made a mistake. :confus:

[public property]

Erm, the feel is the same as the hendrix version.
The end, he sounds a bit like vai, which I give him credit for, but other than that, not much else in it.

[Freepower]

^ really? I find the hendrix version far far more rowdy, less pretty, noisier - the SL version has the cleaner sounding guitar, light delay, and a lighter touch on the guitar work, as well as a decidedly more gentle voice...

I find them completely different. And what do you mean, you give him credit for sounding like Vai?

[Resiliance]

The note choice throughout the song - aside from the obvious - isn't really much different, and I have to honestly say I prefer Hendrix's version, probably out of nostalgia.

What you said about noisier, sure... But it fits the tune.



Edit: I'm not impressed with Hendrix' work in general, but his AATW version is something I've always really liked.

[Axegrinder#9]

oh btw: on Mark Tremonti, apparently he sounds like he is a badass shredder 'cos he plays some stuff in MAB's new album "Hands without Shadows" - now if MAB calls someone a good guitar player... well then Tremonti must indeed be so, though I still haven't heard anything by him that really turned my head.

[Freepower]

The note choice throughout the song - aside from the obvious - isn't really much different, and I have to honestly say I prefer Hendrix's version, probably out of nostalgia.

What you said about noisier, sure... But it fits the tune.



Edit: I'm not impressed with Hendrix' work in general, but his AATW version is something I've always really liked.

Agreed, especially on teh editzor. Hope you shredders are ready for my linkin park covers, because the note choice is identical.

[Lacrymosa]

^I like LP and Green Day.

Feel free to flame at me :)

[Freepower]

^ i like people unswayed by the masses.

Whether the guitar playing masses or the mass masses. :) The remixes are in my nms dmusic if you want a look. Both crawling remixes, but quite different in feel.

[sixteen times]

Shawn Lane's AAWT is impressive but IMO lacks the feel of Hendrix's. I think the fact that everything was technically "spot-on" took from the song. Hendrix was sloppy but who cares? He felt every note, and in this, I feel Shawn didn't.

:cheers:

[apocalypse13]

I heard the SL version of AATW yesterday. It was pretty cool. The end of it is yes, a wankfest, but it really rocks. And it is very smooth, damn is it smooth!

And, I think I just figured out oscillation. :headbang: If not, it's just modified a slight bit, because I have my hand right, I just don't know what to pick with. I don't think it matters because with that method, there's no tension with anything. Also, I use my pinky to anchor my hand in order to keep a very small pick movement base, and I can hit really kick ass speeds now. I've only used it for five minutes, and can easily see the difference.

[Freepower]

^ remove the pinky and float, use a gentle touch of the palm to the strings if you really need it. You couldnt do a SL diminished with your pinky down, i think it'd quite literally tear off.

The awesome thing about oscillation is the incredible instant relief of tension, im not very good at it yet, so i tend to alternate between transverse with a little oscilliatory and oscilliatory when im practicing it, and i really notice the difference instantly. :)

Shawn Lane's AAWT is impressive but IMO lacks the feel of Hendrix's. I think the fact that everything was technically "spot-on" took from the song. Hendrix was sloppy but who cares? He felt every note, and in this, I feel Shawn didn't.

:cheers:

I think you're right, i dont think he felt the "hendrix" original parts as much as hendrix did, and they make up a good portion of the song. The shawn parts (the fills in the rhythm, the end solo) are as emotive as any solo i've ever heard - for me. ;)

I was considering posting "Get you back" as well, which is just as awesome, but all original, perhaps you guys would enjoy that more?

[public property]

hehe, anything to defend shawny.....
anyway freepower theres a 30 second melody overdubbed with acoustic and electrics on my dmusic thingy, take a look since you seemed so intrested.


http://egotrip.dmusic.com/

[Freepower]

"credit where credit's due", as far as lane goes, he may not play the hendrix bits as well as hendrix, but where he has some freedom he outplays him, imo.

Like the harmonics in the background very tasteful, sounds like a mellower justin king - and the actual melody is nice too, it reminds me of a Vai song but i can't remember which one. Maybe just reminds me of Vai, but you would expect that and find it a compliment, no?

Overall, nice, simple hapy-go lucky with a smattering of bonus quiet guitarist, i like it, but it needs developing and length, obviously. :)

[Resiliance]

Like the harmonics in the background very tasteful, sounds like a mellower justin king -


I don't like Justing King :peace:

[wil]

The problem with SL's Wachtower for me is it sounds a bit sterile, yes, he rips up the fretboard-no one can dispute the guy's ability, but it just lacks something, maybe it lacks feel. I feel the saMe about George Lynch's version, the rhythym guitar, the drums and the vocals all sound a bit weedy, and the guitar is TOO polished. Hendrix's leads sounds flame-grilled, passionate, intergalactic-the others don't.
Still, awesome shredding by Lane at the end. Freepower, post more Shawn Lane please!

Got the G3 tokyo dvd today, and having only skimmed through it, i must say John Petrucci comes across as very melodic indeed, especially on Glasgow Kiss.
Other notable things
-More homoerotic stage antics between Vai and Sheehan.
-Vai's insistence on having a fan blowing in his face(?)
-Vai's awesome note choice.
-Satch's awesome legato and whammy bar manipulation.
-Petrucci's awesome alt picking
-Satch's bass player - Bisonette?- singing smoke on the water and doing a pretty good job too.
-SMoke on the Water having two bass players(?)
-Satch trying to sound low and sexy singing Foxey Lady.
-Satch addressing the audience in Japanese.
-Mike Portnoy turning up for a bit of drumming on the g3jam.
-Billy Sheehan's tapped harmonics on a bass!
-Billy Sheehan's double neck bass!!

All in all though, the playing is, as usual, of a ridiculously high standard throughout and i'm warming to Petrucci, after previously dismissing him as too cold and clinical, he's actually quite a passionate player.
Buy it if you want to be reminded you need to practise more.

[Axegrinder#9]

^ you know I think I've been agreeing on several things with you lately... interesting

though I'd like to point out that I find Satch's vox on Foxey Lady is abysmal, but the man redeems himself when during the commentary in the sound-check he says "I have an amazingly low vocal range *laughter*"

of all three, though he has terrible stage-presence, Petrucci's playing was stellar.

BTW: it's weird, the DVD has perfect clarity and mix when I play it on my laptop, but sounds very badly mixed when I played it on a real DVD player.

[Freepower]

^ yup, petrucci has an awful on stage look, which he turns into a good stage look by saying "I wear it this high to play well, goddamit. The music comes first!" - always a good thing. :)

[wil]

^ you know I think I've been agreeing on several things with you lately... interesting

though I'd like to point out that I find Satch's vox on Foxey Lady is abysmal, but the man redeems himself when during the commentary in the sound-check he says "I have an amazingly low vocal range *laughter*"

of all three, though he has terrible stage-presence, Petrucci's playing was stellar.

BTW: it's weird, the DVD has perfect clarity and mix when I play it on my laptop, but sounds very badly mixed when I played it on a real DVD player.

Interesting in what way?
Petrucci is a bit bland but i think he's a bit nervous. Can't fault his playing though.
To be honest, i think Vai's tunes are the least interesting, perhaps too self indulgent. Id rather see The Attitude Song or even another multi-neck improvisation.

[pavan]

Shawn Lane's AAWT is impressive but IMO lacks the feel of Hendrix's. I think the fact that everything was technically "spot-on" took from the song. Hendrix was sloppy but who cares? He felt every note, and in this, I feel Shawn didn't.

:cheers:


You need to listen to some ethereal Shawn Lane stuff, and take those words back. :peace:

[Resiliance]

^I've heard all he has to offer, and I agree with wil.

:peace:

[wil]

I haven't heard all he has to offer; i cant really get hold of much of his stuff to say for sure, but a player's tone and feel is just as important to me as the notes they play, and Lane's Watchtower just didn't grab me. I'm well aware of how good the guy is, but at this level of ability a player needs that extra something to grab me...
Just watched Gilbert's Intense Rock and having been listening to a lot of his stuff lately, im surprised by his humour, the way he doesn't pretend to be an absolute God on the instrument, he seems friendly and the attitude he puts into his playing, even on an instructional video really blew me away.

[Archaon]

^ yup, petrucci has an awful on stage look, which he turns into a good stage look by saying "I wear it this high to play well, goddamit. The music comes first!" - always a good thing. :)

Petrucci is my hero.
"I already wear my guitar too high for it to be considered cool" - Petrucci on Live in Budokan DVD

edit: Am I the only one annoyed at people who thinks petrucci is just an emotionless shredder? they need to hear songs like goodnight kiss and finally free, the solos in there I think are very passionate and emotional.

[Resiliance]

^I'm annoyed at people who think there IS überhaupt a thing as emotionless.

[Scorzerci]

I love john petrucci! I saw him on the G3 dvd and i really love glassgow kiss and not as much but still an awesome song, damage control. I have a question though, what colour is his guitar? It seems like the color changes depending on how the light shines at it. I checked the music man website and it said polyutherane (or some big word like that) finish. Does this mean it is one of those thats colour changes depending on the light cus i've seen stuff like that on cars?

[Axegrinder#9]

point to be noted: have you noticed how Petrucci's playing playing, especially his melodies and rhythmic motifs are at times derived wholly from Steve Morse's style

[Beckerfan101]

Of course Petrucci sounds a lot like Morse, he was one of his thee biggest influences ( -> Dregs, ZZ Top and Rush )

[apocalypse13]

^ remove the pinky and float, use a gentle touch of the palm to the strings if you really need it. You couldnt do a SL diminished with your pinky down, i think it'd quite literally tear off.

The awesome thing about oscillation is the incredible instant relief of tension, im not very good at it yet, so i tend to alternate between transverse with a little oscilliatory and oscilliatory when im practicing it, and i really notice the difference instantly.Yes, I suck at it. But I want to get better, it seems like it could become much more efficient, but right now it's extremely difficult.

I think I'm finally going to get the "Melodic Control" video by Marty Friedman. I'm getting a Blank DVD for my friend to burn it on, I can't wait. Plus I just got Cliff Em' All, and Cliff's solos are definitely teh roXors.

[Axegrinder#9]

Of course Petrucci sounds a lot like Morse, he was one of his thee biggest influences ( -> Dregs, ZZ Top and Rush )

hence the post :rolleyes:

[John Kimble]

What is oscillation?

[Freepower]

^ i think the threads called "fast picking" - it's a bit long to go into now.

[sixteen times]

Anyone got the tab of the sweep sequence Mark Tremonti played in one of his four videos for Total Guitar Magazine? I think it was a November issue.

:cheers: Thanks.

[Freepower]

^ have you seen the "sweeping lesson" he has on his site.

"Uh, yeh, i like these sweeps"

*SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP*

"Yeh, they're like, economical"

*SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP"

As a sweeping beginner, you try and follow what he does, but obviously, with no tab, no slow version, no explanation, no NAMING OF THE EFFING SHAPE...

"Yeh, and you should try this - *SWEEP SWEEP* - *no explanation*"

*SWEEP SWEEP SWEEPS*

"And you're right hand should be like THIS"

*SWEEP SWEEP SWEEPS*












I learned SO much from that lesson. Mostly how NOT to teach sweeping.

[apocalypse13]

^What lesson are you talking about?

[Freepower]

Read the last 2 posts in order. :)

[apocalypse13]

I read them, but you're talking about Tremonti? He has a lesson on this site?

Wait a minute... Is it a video or something in the video thread? And he just shows off and "explains" things? I haven't seen it, but I get what you're sayig now...

:bonk:

[sixteen times]

Anyone got the tab of the sweep sequence Mark Tremonti played in one of his four videos for Total Guitar Magazine? I think it was a November issue.

:cheers: Thanks.

Anyone?

[quinny1089]

yer ive got the tabs for them....those videos that came with total guitar was actually what got me into trying to learn to sweep...

ill tab em out later if i have time

[sixteen times]

yer ive got the tabs for them....those videos that came with total guitar was actually what got me into trying to learn to sweep...

ill tab em out later if i have time

Please do!!! :D

:cheers:

[SnowballofDoom]

I read them, but you're talking about Tremonti? He has a lesson on this site?


Yeah, he has some lessons on his site, if you can call them that. Freepower's description of the sweep lesson is frighteningly accurate.

[quinny1089]

s s s q. s s s q.
------15--19------15--20-------------------
----17----------17-------------------------
--17----------17---------------------------
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All 16th notes

------15--19p15------15--20p15-------
----17----------17--17---------17----
--17--------------17-----------------
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-------------------------------------

------15--19p15------15--19p15--19p15-----
----17----------17--17----------------17-----
--17--------------17----------------------------
----------------------------------------------
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------15--20p15--20p15------15--19p15--19p15------15--
----17----------------17--17----------------17--17------
--17--------------------17--------------------17------
----------------------------------------------------
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[quinny1089]

------------12--16---------11--14p11-----------
----------12--------------12---------12-------
--------13--------------11-------------11-----
------14--------------13-----------------13---
----14--------------14---------------------14--
--12--------------11------------------------------

------------10--14--------9--12p9------------
----------10------------10-------10--------
--------11-------------9------------9------
------12-------------11--------------11----
----12-------------12------------------12--
--10--------------9------------------------

[apocalypse13]

Has anybody seen the commercial with the guitarist doing wank acoustic solos in a duel with Kermit the Frog? Does anyone know who it is? I think it's a country guitarist, but he's definitely badass.

[SnowballofDoom]

^I only saw the very end of it, but I'm almost certian it was Brad Paisley.

EDIT: Yeah, it's Paisley: http://www.mostlymuppet.com/archives/2005/11/22/brad-paisley-versus-kermit/

[Beckerism]

^I only saw the very end of it, but I'm almost certian it was Brad Paisley.

EDIT: Yeah, it's Paisley: http://www.mostlymuppet.com/archives/2005/11/22/brad-paisley-versus-kermit/

Hahah that was neat.

[apocalypse13]

Whoa. I never realized he was that good. He could pwn my ass anyday.

[Beckerism]

Does it piss anyone else off that gp4 cannot keep up with the notes being played, so it'll play one section, then skip to the next? Is there any way to mod it so that the red marker is in sync with the playing? Such as powertab?

[Freepower]

^ lol, it doesnt bother me, if it does that, generally i can't play it anyhoo.

And besides, if you need to see the red marker to play it, you cant play it. ;)

And even besides that, you can just hit the half speed button if you REALLY need to see the notes as you hear it to get what's going on.

[apocalypse13]

I use Power Tab and it does fine.

[Beckerism]

^ lol, it doesnt bother me, if it does that, generally i can't play it anyhoo.

And besides, if you need to see the red marker to play it, you cant play it. ;)

And even besides that, you can just hit the half speed button if you REALLY need to see the notes as you hear it to get what's going on.

It's not that I cant play it, it just annoys me that you cant see the actual speed as in powertab. I think gp4 capped speed is like 10 nps. Believe me, I can handle it. I just really dislike it skipping around. It's more of an annoyance, not a necessity. That's one of the reasons I like powertab better. :p:

I use Power Tab and it does fine.


I generally use PT, just that PT doesn't have some songs that GP4 has and GP4 doesnt have some songs that PT has. :)

[Resiliance]

^Well, I don't find any discomfort in it... Like FP said, it's not necessary.

And umm, it's WELL higher than 10 nps, last time I checked ;)

[Beckerism]

^Well, I don't find any discomfort in it... Like FP said, it's not necessary.

And umm, it's WELL higher than 10 nps, last time I checked ;)

Actually I think it is less. For simplicity's sake, I opened up Baroque and Roll, and the first single string run he does, which is approx 12 nps, skips when it is 3/4 done with the bar. What does that mean? For one thing, DEFINITELY not much higher than 10.

[Resiliance]

^Well burn my boxershorts and damn pubic lice to hell.

Like I said, it doesn't bother me, so it's not surprising I'm dead wrong :D

[Beckerism]

DAMN THOSE PUBLIC LICE.


I think it's mainly that I started with PT, then started using gp4 months later, so it's awkward for me whenever the marker is not accurate.

[Resiliance]

I prefer the way of marking notes in GP by FAR though.

Thought it was worth a mention.

Not to mention the incredible advantage over PT, the "overview" screen, with the different tracks, and bars. Which you can just switch to whenever you want, name them, etc...

[Beckerism]

That is true that it has a good way of showing the tablature, but sometimes I also like to see both parts being played at the same time, (such as if you dl SMS off PT) so it's a double edged sword. You probably know what you are talking about anyways. I don't actually use the programs to tab out, but steal others and learn pre-tabbed out songs. :p:

[Resiliance]

^I write all of my music in GP first :)

P.S.: You can see both.

[Freepower]

^ you can? AND YOU WRITE ALL YOUR MUSIC IN GP FIRST?

*vomits*


YEUGH!

And can i have the GP for heading for the sun? Remind me that i suxxor, email it to me or summat, please oh master of the universe person type thing...

[Beckerism]

^I write all of my music in GP first :)

P.S.: You can see both.

How do you see 2 layers at the same time? :confused:

[Resiliance]

View - Multitrack View.

[Beckerism]

View - Multitrack View.

Thanks. :)

[NevermorePsalm]

I'll jump in here. Were arguing about PowerTab and I have no idea what GP is?

[Beckerism]

Guitar Pro 4. :) www.mysongbook.com

[NevermorePsalm]

Not gonna download that carry on...I'll leave until something I can argue about pops up.

[apocalypse13]

Props to Beckerism for the Jason Becker Video! :cheers:

I'm downloading it now.

[Beckerism]

Awesome. You'll like it. :)

[sixteen times]

Awesome. You'll like it. :)

Great video, thanks man.

:cheers:

[Beckerism]

Great video, thanks man.

:cheers:

Glad you liked it. Apoc, did it work for you?

[apocalypse13]

^It didn't. I'm sad.

I'm going to have to wait a little while to try. Last night it was DLing horribly slow (300-400 b/sec.) I cancelled it because it was only getting a percent every 10 minutes or so. I'll try again. Maybe it was something with my PC because everything was going slow on it yesterday.

EDIT:

How do you get rhythm slashes to make sounds on Power Tab? On tabs I've downloaded, it says "A5" or "D" above them, and it makes sound. :confused:

[PooKoo]

Anyone know where i can dl guitar pro online?

Or should i just get it through.... other means

[apocalypse13]

http://213.251.138.58/~gpweb/en/index.php?pg=download

It's not free, so you might mant to get it through "other means."

*cough*limewire*cough*

[GraveSs]

can someone reccomend me a good music theory book for a beginner that has no sense of music knowledge at all.

[Resiliance]

I'd brush up on my theory using online sites, this one, www.musictheory.net , etc... And then once you get the very basics, buy The Jazz Theory Book by Mark Levine.

[PooKoo]

Got it... hehehe...

[GraveSs]

how will a jazz theory work in shred

i belive its this book right? http://www.musicroom.com/en-US/se/ID_No/0168163/details.html

[Axegrinder#9]

some gentlemen called Allan Holdsworth, Frank Gambale, John McLaughlin, Al Di Meola, Greg Howe, Shawn Lane, Ritchie Kotzen... listen to some of their stuff, you may have an idea how the two combine

[Resiliance]

And to add to that: The Jazz Theory Book uses Jazz not as a goal, but as a means to get to the goal.

The goal being theory knowledge.

Jazz theory is just more in-depth and exploring harmonic possibilities.

And yes, that's it.

[apocalypse13]

Has anyone else noticed there are some really badass video game themes that can be crazy difficult to play?

Check these out:
http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=song,21518
http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=song,17533

The second can be made hella easier with two handed tapping, but it's more fun with the fingerpicking, but very difficult. The Turtles theme is an excellent string skipping exercise, provided you can even attempt it. I learned a couple of the other Mario themes, but most aren't very difficult to pick up.

Here's the link for the Power Tab video game section: http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=video_browse

[Freepower]

"Sonic 2 : Chemical Plant Zone" - AWESOME ****!

[public property]

sonic and knuckles - doomsday zone, its like a rusty cooley exercise!

[apocalypse13]

^Yeah, that is extremely fast. :eek:

The Ninja Turtles Scene 1 reminds me immensely of Paul Gilbert, there's some insane string skipping in there.

The Killer Instinct Theme "The Instinct" is really kickass. It's not shredding, but just awesome. It makes me want to buy a Super Nintendo so I can play that game again. That game was the shlt.

[Beckerism]

sonic and knuckles - doomsday zone, its like a rusty cooley exercise!

Damn, just looked it up. 19.334 nps. :p:

[apocalypse13]

^How do you figure that out?

[SnowballofDoom]

I think we all know the best one of them all: http://powertabs.net/pta.php?page=song,14839

:heart:

[Freepower]

Deus ex had the best music, i distinctly remember deliberately setting off the alarm because some of the fight music was so cool. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, Deus, deus. I love thee.

[Beckerism]

^How do you figure that out?

Take the notes, (it was 32th note) divide it by 4, then multiply that number by the beats per min, then divide by 60.

So (32/4)(145/60) Atleast I think it was 145 beats per min.

And for example, a 16th run at 30 bpm would be

(16/4)(30/60)

[apocalypse13]

^Awesome

[pavan]

Deus ex had the best music, i distinctly remember deliberately setting off the alarm because some of the fight music was so cool. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, Deus, deus. I love thee.

i will second that
and great game too, I remember bunking an entire week of school just to play that.
ah those were the good old days of my glorious youth

[wil]

I remember being in love with Street Fighter 2- some of the themes on that were pretty killer, i may dig my SNES out and make an arrangement of Chun Li's theme tune...
Powertabs.net has loads of theme tune powertabs, also many of them are for Final Fantasy games, which i never really got into.
The mario ones are wicked though.

[Resiliance]

^...................





HAIDOKEN!
SHIRYUKEN!

Oh yes.


Mmmm.

[wil]

(in extremely high oriental accent)
' SPINNING BIRD KICK!' as Chun Li performs an entirely impossible move that doesnt resemble a bird what so ever.
Or how about;
' Tatsumakitsenpurkrahku' or however the hell you pronounce it, either Ryu or Ken needlessly growled this as they uppercutted your chin into your nose.
Ah, the memories.

[SnowballofDoom]

Sorry guys, but nobody beats E.Honda's Hundred Hand Slap.

Nobody :p:

[Freepower]

^ y'know, there's a move in Smackdown vs Raw which is a slap, except it makes people fall over like a very slow tree. Meaning you can slap them and restart the loop animation, meaning you can have a little midget wrestler bitchslapping Kane's testicals.

But even that's not as funny as running off the top of Hell in a Cell. Y'had to be there. :D

[sixteen times]

------------12--16---------11--14p11-----------
----------12--------------12---------12-------
--------13--------------11-------------11-----
------14--------------13-----------------13---
----14--------------14---------------------14--
--12--------------11------------------------------

------------10--14--------9--12p9------------
----------10------------10-------10--------
--------11-------------9------------9------
------12-------------11--------------11----
----12-------------12------------------12--
--10--------------9------------------------



Thankyou!


:down: quinny1089.

[SnowballofDoom]

^ y'know, there's a move in Smackdown vs Raw which is a slap, except it makes people fall over like a very slow tree. Meaning you can slap them and restart the loop animation, meaning you can have a little midget wrestler bitchslapping Kane's testicals.

But even that's not as funny as running off the top of Hell in a Cell. Y'had to be there. :D

I loved that game! It was just so...ridiculous, it was great.

I would always be Ric Flair, just to see a 60 year-old orange man suplex Andre the Giant.

[Axegrinder#9]

hahah this is ridiculous... call it impending final exam stress, we guys in my room made a most ridiculous playlist... here's what it started off like...

Grateful Dead - Box of Rain
Bee Gees - Stayin' Alive
Pantera - Primal Concrete Sledge
Infected Mushroom - Waves of Sound
Rammstein - Ich Will
Simon & Garfunkel - Cecilia
Metallica - Sad But True

and in that vein... hahahha

[John Kimble]

When it comes to video game music, nothing beats the early megaman games. Megaman 3 had the best music ever.

[Beckerfan101]

I <3 street fighter tunes

[Resiliance]

Prince
of
Persia

or

Streets
of
Rage

!

[Beckerfan101]

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=288200

My cover of Pachabells Canon in dmajor.

check t out if youve some spare time. peace

[wil]

I'm afraid Final Fight was one of the best-
Also, remember Killer Instinct? Awesome!

[sixteen times]

Hmmm... lets see... favourite arpeggio progressions?

I know it's cliche'd, but I am a fan of those ETB arps.

[Freepower]

^ Sorry, but its gotta be I-7th-6th-7th in a minor key. Cliched as ****, but i love it. :)

or just picking a single diminished arp and taking it everywhere you can is always fun - run out of frets? String skip. Run out of strings? Hammeron/pulloff a b3...You can just go on for ages.


Streets
of
Rage

Wasnt the boss theme awesome?

WASNT THE END BOSS THEME AWESOME?

And wasnt the 2 player end awesomist?

[SnowballofDoom]

Streets
of
Rage

!

Wow, nostalgia...I used to play that game for hours.

Axel > everyone else

Still, as far as I'm concerned, the best video game music is the Zelda/Final Fantasy series'.

Hmmm... lets see... favourite arpeggio progressions?

I know it's cliche'd, but I am a fan of those ETB arps.

At the moment, the Altitudes solo.

[The UG Squirrel]

No Crash Bandicoot themes in powertabs?

What a letdown.

[pavan]

they will always let you down sonny.

[MankiiKing]

Still, as far as I'm concerned, the best video game music is the Zelda/Final Fantasy series'.

True. Anxious Heart is the best video game composition ever.

[SnowballofDoom]

True. Anxious Heart is the best video game composition ever.

My favorites from FFVII are Anxious Heart and One Winged Angel :D

One Winged Angel would make a great guitar instrumental methinks.

[Dreadnought]

Chrono Cross has really good guitar music, especially the end acoustic song

[public property]

one winged angel was made into a rock instrumental for advent children. Electric guitars and all!

[MankiiKing]

one winged angel was made into a rock instrumental for advent children. Electric guitars and all!

That sounds awesome, I think I need to download it. :D

[John Kimble]

Have you guys heard of The Black Mages, its a group that does final fantasy songs with a more metal edge, and it actually has the guy who wrote most of the FF music on keyboards, I think his name is Nobu something.

I have their first CD, its awesome.

[public property]

His name is nobuo uematsu, he wrote pretty much all of the final fantasy music and their band actually recorded all the music for advent children - I love final fantasy music.

Has anyone looked over the boss theme in ff7? Its a cool prog tune with some annoying arpeggios....

[SnowballofDoom]

one winged angel was made into a rock instrumental for advent children. Electric guitars and all!

:eek:
















... :eek:

I really need to get Advent Children.

Has anyone looked over the boss theme in ff7? Its a cool prog tune with some annoying arpeggios....

I was just looking at that yesterday, actually, very cool indeed.

Uematsu's a genius...

[apocalypse13]

^:cheers:

Nobuo pwns video game music. I really like the Balamb town theme in FF8. I can play it on acoustic. It's actually got some nifty postion shifts that make for a challenge. Here's the power tab I learned it from. I play it a little different, just to make it easier, but it sounds the same.

http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=song,11736

[public property]

try 'ami' from ff8 then, quite a challenge!

[apocalypse13]

I really love playing video game themes. It's so fun to sit and jam to a Mario theme.

[wil]

I wish i had my playstation here because i remember the FF7 music as being awesome and i cant see the MIDI powertabs quite doing them justice...
Get hold of a bass and learn the underground theme off Mario, you know when he goes down the pipe, the music that plays under there- its amazing, a great tune..

[MankiiKing]

Has anyone looked over the boss theme in ff7? Its a cool prog tune with some annoying arpeggios....

I used to love to boss battles just because of that song. :D The tab looks pretty fun.

Edit: Holy sheiiit! this is harder than No boundaries. :haha
I dare anyone on these boards to play those arpeggios and the part after them. The shapes are really hard.

[public property]

The powertabs do actually do the songs justice, since they're all midi anyway! The battle theme especially, pretty damn good.

[apocalypse13]

Yeah, the PT's do fine. I think Nobuo is the best video game composer. I had a list last night that was almost done, and I accidentally signed off.... I'll make it again. It was my favorite FF tunes.
-The theme during the opening credits on FFX. Before the menu comes up. It also plays when you first get to Zanarkand
-"Ami"- FF8
-Cosmo Canyon- FF7
-FF8 Panic Music (ie: "Only a Plank Between One and Perdition")
-Lunatic Pandora-FF8- OMFG I love this one. I have a game saved inside it just so I can listen to it whenever I want. The intro is pwnzoRz x 70 million. If you haven't heard it, get to Disc 3 immediately.
-Music during "The Spring" video on FFX. When Tidus swims with Yuna in a corny romantic encounter. The graphics are beyond amazing and the song is beautiful.
-The theme played in the Train Graveyard, and Nibelheim, in FF7. That is one of my all time favorites.
-The Balamb theme- FF8

[Axegrinder#9]

heh I was dicking around with some photoshop software... (yea I had a lot of time to kill at 6:20 AM )

this actually turned out pretty neat

http://storage.msn.com/x1pqP5noGPWAA7GeBip62JHf6oi6nl0ilK7r5MrYID8uzn_4nvAn93h76923Bxzygq2VHjkRGISMV9MAXn8HanWH38C-oI5DxNAjft_dNFeu6Ic-GP_1utrrGOurD0lB7M-Naz48pXrGXKFku1RpTQpmQ

:devil:

[SnowballofDoom]

^I like it :D

In fact, I was working with Photoshop/Animation Shop yesterday as well, but all I came up with was this:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b155/ColoradoBulldog/cosby3.gif

:sad:

[Resiliance]

Lol.

[Beckerism]

^I like it :D

In fact, I was working with Photoshop/Animation Shop yesterday as well, but all I came up with was this:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b155/ColoradoBulldog/cosby3.gif

:sad:

....dhalsim.... o_O?

and to spice things up:

http://skyki.net.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=view&news_id=513

[SnowballofDoom]

and to spice things up:

http://skyki.net.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=view&news_id=513

:haha Poor thing...

http://skyki.net.ru/uploads/1132676197_putin_6.jpg

"they said it would cure my dandruff :( "

[Resiliance]

^Omg.


I'd kill to have that as a frontman.

[Beckerism]

"they said it would cure my dandruff :( "

Hahahahahah! Best caption.

[apocalypse13]

:haha

[Gabuydachk]

Take the notes, (it was 32th note) divide it by 4, then multiply that number by the beats per min, then divide by 60.

So (32/4)(145/60) Atleast I think it was 145 beats per min.

And for example, a 16th run at 30 bpm would be

(16/4)(30/60)
how about if there are triplets/quituplets/sextuplets/septuplets/ect........?

[Resiliance]

^I don't really think the way that formula's explained is really clear :p:

I use: (bpm/60).note division(16ths = 4, 8th triplets = 3, 8ths = 2, etc...)

Easy as pie.

[Freepower]

A septuplet is 7 notes to the beat. So figure out how many beats per second via (bpm/60) and then multiply that for bpm. For goodness sake, i figured it out myself, its simple maths.

[wil]

theres many ways to work it out, but i dont see the point in working out the NPS of songs i cant play yet.

[dwad]

yngwie rules all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[apocalypse13]

wtf???????????????????????????i???????????????????????????? ????????????????????????c???????????a????????????????? ???????n????????????????????????b????????????????e? ?a???????f????????????????????????a?????????????????g???? ?s??????????????????l?????????????? ?????????i????????????????k?????????????????????e?????? ?????????????t????????????
h?????????????????????a??????????????????????????t???????????????????t???????????
??????????????????o???????????????o????????












That's not a very good way to start a conversation.

[shredderdelight]

Can anyone recommend any songs or artists that are good(at shredding) because im just started out at shredding and i would like something to relate back to when i start to learn new things (techniques).

This would be very appriciated(sp?)

[Freepower]

^ the most important thing is to play accurate. All the time. Shred is more about cleanliness than speed.

[public property]

Like in that smashing pumpkins song
'and cleanliness is godlyness'

[wil]

Can anyone recommend any songs or artists that are good(at shredding) because im just started out at shredding and i would like something to relate back to when i start to learn new things (techniques).

This would be very appriciated(sp?)

Buy Van Halen 1 and 2, Ozzy Osbourne's Blizzard of Ozz, The Infinite Steve Vai, The Electric Joe Satriani, Cacophony's Speed Metal Symphony and Yngwie's Rising Force- Give them a listen and see what you think, if you're like me and were blown away then i would suggest getting POwertab Editor or Guitar Pro as these programmes allow you to see the score and the tab, they often have performance notes about certain techniques as well as the ability to slow down parts and play along with them etc...
The world of shred is often viewed as elitist and inaccessable to mere mortals but thats not the case and stuff like the artists ive listed are- believe it or not- all about speed- Get the transcriptions, study them like mad and see what these guys are doing, what they play thats different to rock, blues players etc-basically, why they are virtuosos.

Aside from this, the best advice to is to practise like your'e possessed, but those guys are right, dont immediately think ' right, how fast can i play?' work on your cleanliness and articulation, these are things that separate a good player from a great player- in a technical sense of course, IMO Dave Gilmour says more with three notes than other players can with fifty, but phrasing is something thats individual to you and will mature with your ability and confidence.

[Beckerism]

Does anyone have Vinnie playing While My Guitar Gently Weeps that they want to upload for me? ;)

[wil]

^ i want it too, i had a look at the powertab for it and being as the Harrison original was one of the first songs i learned, id love to hear a virtuoso version of it.

[Beckerism]

How long does it take to get a video up on video google? I put one in about 4 days ago and it still isn't up.

[apocalypse13]

Me= :D

I'm getting high speed Friday!!!!

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

All my time will be in the video thread now.

[Freepower]

How long does it take to get a video up on video google? I put one in about 4 days ago and it still isn't up.


Wait. Assuming you've submitted the video info...

[faqu]

Sorry for the dumb question.
what's the G in G3 stands for?

[Freepower]

I think it alludes to the G8. :)

[Resiliance]

Probably guitar.

Or great.

Or grizzlybear.

Or grumpy.

Or graticious.

Or gvegetables.

Whatever :(

[SnowballofDoom]

^I'm thinkin gvegetables, but you never know.

[Beckerism]

Wait. Assuming you've submitted the video info...

I have. And I get this:

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/34516593255.jpg&s=x11

It doesn't show up even when I search Becker. I'll wait it out of course, it's just rather annoying. How long does it take you guys from start to finish?

[wil]

I can play Cacophony's Concerto most of the way through now-i dont know if ive memorised the whole thing but...- and something that helped me a great deal, and something im sure most of you are aware of anyway, is this thing called Weird Metronome- google it, then download it for free- it's not amazing and it has its limitations, but its great if, like me, you get a bit confused by strange subdivisions ( 13 into 8 etc)

[apocalypse13]

Now learn SMS. :p:

[wil]

^ already have done, although i substitute a lot of the fast picking for legato because at the moment my alt. picking sucks :confused: - I prefer Concerto as id say it more tuneful, there are parts where SMS becomes unlistenable for like 30 seconds or more at a time...

[rockon004]

didnt want to start a new thread because im sure you guys get plenty of annoying threads like this but, im new to shred and prog metal. i saw G3 in Tokyo and read ther article on Opeth in Guitar World. these inspired me to want to listen to more stuff like that. so what are the essential shred/prog albums?

[SnowballofDoom]

All these (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104843&page=1)

[apocalypse13]

I have high speed now.:D Now I can actually watch the vids on here. I just watched a Cacophony video that is extremely cool. Don't know if it's been posted before, but here it is. It's Desert Island and Black Cat.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2620593814189993945&q=marty+friedman

Edit: NVM, I just saw that Beckerism posted it in the video thread...:o

Wtf? In the No Boundaries Video, MAB does some crazy ass thing where he jumps his hand around the fretboard, from top to bottom... But it actually makes notes. So how the hell do you go about doing it?

[Beckerism]

So, this website is suppose to let us dl stuff off of google video. However, the thing I dled is unplayable by Windowns Media player, Real Player, and QuickTime... :confused:

http://feelingtea.com/decode/google/

[Freepower]

You should add the file extension .flv to the end after downloading( change the file name videoplayback to videoplaybakc.flv). You will also require a FLV player to play this file. We recommend FLV Player.

Must be the format that google uses to stream, and its good for its job. So, you need a media player for em, who cares?

[Beckerism]

Must be the format that google uses to stream, and its good for its job. So, you need a media player for em, who cares?

Thanks for that quote. I didn't snoop around the website enough. I don't understand your last sentence, since obviously I do.

edit: Awesome, I got it to work.

[apocalypse13]

What do you think of this (That Song)? I wrote it, in no particular scale, or meaning. I just jammed and wrote what I played. The first part turned out unexpectedly successful. The sweeping is kind of hard though. I especially like the acoustic, I'm really proud of myself for that, especially with this being the first song I really took seriously. It isn't done, but I just wanted to see if sounded OK to others.
:cheers:

The second one (Another Song) is just a couple riffs that turned out unexpectedly bluesy, so I put in a tenor sax and it sounds funny, lol.

Edit- lol, I put the wrong file up on "That Song." It stopped abruptly because I put the Zip file I hadn't modified in a while on here. Oh well, it's fixed now, so it's cool to hear now.

[Beckerism]

What do you think of this (That Song)? I wrote it, in no particular scale, or meaning. I just jammed and wrote what I played. The first part turned out unexpectedly successful. The sweeping is kind of hard though. I especially like the acoustic, I'm really proud of myself for that, especially with this being the first song I really took seriously. It isn't done, but I just wanted to see if sounded OK to others.
:cheers:

The second one (Another Song) is just a couple riffs that turned out unexpectedly bluesy, so I put in a tenor sax and it sounds funny, lol.

Edit- lol, I put the wrong file up on "That Song." It stopped abruptly because I put the Zip file I hadn't modified in a while on here. Oh well, it's fixed now, so it's cool to hear now.

I enjoyed the acoustic part on That Song, and liked the bluesish stuff from Another Song. Can't really give any real criticism though.

[apocalypse13]

Yeah the I find acoustic part very enjoyable.

[shredderdelight]

I was thinking about learning some stuff by Joe satriani and i was just wondering if i need a guitar with a floyd rose or will a normal tremolo work fine?

[Pitch_axis]

This is a bit random, but, what the hell...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/FATsweed/images2.jpg
WAYNE'S WORLD

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/FATsweed/deuce.gif


NITRO

[Ugliest Weenie]

Hello there, I've been looking thru som bits and pieces in this thread and I must say, I'm intrigued(right word? :D ). So, I've lately been getting into sweeping licks, and shredding is something I connect with sweeping. So why not start to learn how to shred? :p:

So I was just wondering if some of you guys could help me getting started...
where to start from, what to learn etcetc...

I would REALLY appreciate any help! :cheers:

EDIT: and i anyone could help me with creating a some sort of a workout schedule, but I understand if you wont :)

[Righteous]

Hello there, I've been looking thru som bits and pieces in this thread and I must say, I'm intrigued(right word? :D ). So, I've lately been getting into sweeping licks, and shredding is something I connect with sweeping. So why not start to learn how to shred? :p:

So I was just wondering if some of you guys could help me getting started...
where to start from, what to learn etcetc...

I would REALLY appreciate any help! :cheers:

EDIT: and i anyone could help me with creating a some sort of a workout schedule, but I understand if you wont :)

Tell us how good you are first, we don't want to suggest something really difficult if you suck, and vice versa. And about a practice schedule, ask someone like freepower maybe since he's more of an authority than yours truly.


I was thinking about learning some stuff by Joe satriani and i was just wondering if i need a guitar with a floyd rose or will a normal tremolo work fine?

I think a normal tremelo would work out just fine, just treat it more gently. Are you talking about, say, a fender strat's tremelo?

[Ugliest Weenie]

well I definetly don't suck, even if I say so myself, but I could say that im somewhat intermediate, I can play solos like Blackened by Metallica (that's pretty much the only solo I've tried to learn completely :p: )
hmm, don't really know how else to put it...

[chase09]

hmm, found this on video google when looking at dream theater vids. id have to say this guy should be writing his own stuff if he's good enough to cover a petrucci shred solo

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6094694506062623005&q=dream+theater

[apocalypse13]

well I definetly don't suck, even if I say so myself, but I could say that im somewhat intermediate, I can play solos like Blackened by Metallica (that's pretty much the only solo I've tried to learn completely :p: )
hmm, don't really know how else to put it...I guess the first "shred" I learned was Holy Wars...The Punishment Due by Megadeth. Try Marty's solos in it, they're a good crossover point. Then I moved to more difficult stuff by him and other artists. How bout some feedback on my post?^^^

[Righteous]

hmm, found this on video google when looking at dream theater vids. id have to say this guy should be writing his own stuff if he's good enough to cover a petrucci shred solo

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6094694506062623005&q=dream+theater

He plays with his fingers I noticed, he should work on that, but other than that he's good. He has a lot of covers in google video, try googlevideoing his name and you get 30 results.

And to Ugliest Weenie (what a strange name...)- put up stuff you want to learn how do do or make a thread on it and people are bound to help more there than here.

And to apocalypse- I'll listen to your song in a minute.

okay- listened to it now, here's a few thoughts-
For That Song
Measure 17 to the repeat thing should be faster and maybe with the acoustic guitar accompanying with an octave higher, or with the electric higher and the acoustic lower.
It's strange how it goes straight from the solo-type thing in the begining to a repeated rythme/melody and only really does that for the rest of the song, but I understand that this is only an idea.
I would suggest starting out with the acoustic part, then to the melody that is presented in measure 17 then getting faster, and then the solo then chorus and then acoustic again.
These are just suggestions and I'll listen to the other song later.
It's good too.

[apocalypse13]

I'll try it and see how it sounds rearranged. I see what you're saying.

[Freepower]

And about a practice schedule, ask someone like freepower maybe since he's more of an authority than yours truly.

Not at all, seriously. :)

Um, fundamentals are where its at. The ability to keep your fingers low, play cleanly and stay loose right and left handed are the three most important things. If you're doing all that, the rest of technique comes down to researching the correct method and slowly and methodically getting the fundamentals of that sorted.

With fundamentals, you can knock down the "wall" of technique from the base. If you start with keeping your fingers low and loose, then that makes complex fingerings, legato, HO only legato, scale work and chord work about a million times easier when you reach them.

And learn your theory. Whats the point of being able to rip around a fretboard if you can't even make a decent melody over a simple chord?

[Four-Sticks]

This is a bit random, but, what the hell...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/FATsweed/images2.jpg
WAYNE'S WORLD

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/FATsweed/deuce.gif


NITRO


Awesome....

[Archaon]

This is a bit random, but, what the hell...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/FATsweed/images2.jpg
WAYNE'S WORLD

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/FATsweed/deuce.gif


NITRO

Haha, that's awsome.

[Righteous]

Not at all, seriously. :)

You humble person...

I think I may make a thread on how to keep your fingers low because I have trouble with that and there's always like 50 conversations in here and something like that would generally be ignored. :(

[apocalypse13]

^True dat, player//:p:

OK, wtf?

I just installed limewire, but when I try to start it, it gives me all these options, like where I want the files, what language, etc. Once I completed the questions, it closed, and it does it everytime I try to run it. Seriously, wtf?

[Righteous]

^True dat, player//:p:

OK, wtf?

I just installed limewire, but when I try to start it, it gives me all these options, like where I want the files, what language, etc. Once I completed the questions, it closed, and it does it everytime I try to run it. Seriously, wtf?

That's when you go outside and play or do something useful :)
I take it as a sign when my stuff doesn't work.

Once I learn how to upload PT files I'm going to put up an unfinished original of mine, so be expectant for a treat.

[apocalypse13]

Yeah, I think I'll just uninstall it.

All you have to do to upload a PT file is:

1. Go to the file and right-click it, and select "Send To," then "Compressed (Zipped) Folder."

2. Then on UG, select "Manage Attatchments" on the post screen.

3. Then find your zipped file, and upload it.

The reason for the zipped folder is that UG doesn't accept .ptb file extensions, so you have to put it un a .zip file extension.

:cheers:

[Righteous]

Here it is. Basically I was just experimenting with playing over a chord progression, so don't laugh at the lack of rythme originallity. It's cheesy, and simple and just stops too. I was just writing something that I could easily play and it's my first song... so yeah, here it is.


PS- leave suggestions for where it should go next, and also any changes in it.

[apocalypse13]

It's pretty good, like you said, cheesy, but a good cheesy. It makes you wanna snap your fingers. The only thing wrong with it is a lot of musical errors. (ie: the score checker) That really doesn't matter though, as long as it gets the point across.

PooKoo, how do you make your own shirts? Is there a website?

*hopes there is a website...*


Omfg, I just nearly shat myself when I read this. Marty Friedman plans on doing a world tour next year!!!!! :headbang::headbang:

If I miss this tour, I will just die. Just, fall on the floor, cry, slap myself, and cry some more until I die.

[chase09]

i've been looking in different threads in this forum and i can't find where freepower was explaining the different types of alternate picking. the only kind i can remember the name of was oscillatory picking (thats the kind i wanna start training myself to do as right now i pick from the elbow T_T). i have read that picking from the wrist allows you to go to higher speeds but right now i find that picking from the elbow allows me to pick MUCH faster that wrist picking, and any pain i feel from it is instantly relieved once i stretch my arm out once (also takes about 5 minutes of nonstop trem picking to do that too). can anyone give me a link to it?

[Beckerism]

i've been looking in different threads in this forum and i can't find where freepower was explaining the different types of alternate picking. the only kind i can remember the name of was oscillatory picking (thats the kind i wanna start training myself to do as right now i pick from the elbow T_T). i have read that picking from the wrist allows you to go to higher speeds but right now i find that picking from the elbow allows me to pick MUCH faster that wrist picking, and any pain i feel from it is instantly relieved once i stretch my arm out once (also takes about 5 minutes of nonstop trem picking to do that too). can anyone give me a link to it?

http://rapidshare.de/files/9621247/Hardcase.wmv.html

In the long run, picking with your wrist is probably most effective.

[chase09]

^thanks for the reply, but what exactly is that a link for? it's asking me to download something, not providing the answers to oscillatory picking :confused: