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mike.h

07-11-2008, 02:04 PM

Am I the only one that thinks Bodom have always sounded like Bodom and haven't changed much at all?
Probably.

They've slowly started incorporating more thrash elements into their music, their nowhere near as technical as they were before.

Just listen to Kissing The Shadows, the technicality is way above that of the recent albums.

[I Buy Peace]

07-11-2008, 02:28 PM

You but you can still tell that the new stuff is Bodom. It's differant but it's still full of bodomness

: D

Delanoir

07-11-2008, 03:21 PM

Interview with Alexi and Henkka at Download this year

http://www.scuzz.com/Videos/VideoDetails.aspx?type=4&cid=10450&st=4

EDIT: It's really hard to hear the interviewer, but oh well.

[I Buy Peace]

07-11-2008, 04:04 PM

Nice find Delanoir. Seemed like it anded abit abruptley :/

fredzeskater

07-11-2008, 07:45 PM

whens their new album?..... blooddrunk wasn't too good. :/ still quite liked it though.

when are they coming back to the UK?

Delanoir

07-11-2008, 08:37 PM

whens their new album?..... blooddrunk wasn't too good. :/ still quite liked it though.

when are they coming back to the UK?

Probably not for a while, since Blooddrunk only came out a few months ago. And knowing the way Bodom goes, they'll be touring for a long time still before settling back into writing another album. It's usually two years between albums.

Personally, I loved Blooddrunk. To me its one of my favorites, right up there with HCDR. But that's because I prefer the newer thrashier Bodom to the older neoclassical sound (and I do love both).

EDIT: They'll be back near the UK soon, touring Europe with Machine Head (awesome) and Slipknot (ugh).

November 07 - Old Ice Hall, Helsinki (FIN)
November 08 - Ice Hall, Tampere (FIN)
November 10 - Spektrum, Oslo (N)
November 12 - Hovet, Stockholm (S)
November 13 - KB Hallen, Copenhagen (DK)
November 14 - Markthalle, Hamburg (D) *
November 17 - Eishalle Deutweg, Winterthur (CH)
November 18 - Palasharp, Milan (I)
November 20 - HMH, Amsterdam (NL)
November 21 - Zenith, Paris (F)
November 22 - Zenith, Paris (F)
November 23 - Garage, Saarbrücken (D) *
December 14 - Lotto Arena, Antwerp (B)
December 15 - Rockhal, Luxemburg (L)

The dates with *'s are Bodom headlining dates. The main tour is headlined by Slipknot.

destroy_techno

07-11-2008, 08:48 PM

Probably not for a while, since Blooddrunk only came out a few months ago. And knowing the way Bodom goes, they'll be touring for a long time still before settling back into writing another album. It's usually two years between albums.

Personally, I loved Blooddrunk. To me its one of my favorites, right up there with HCDR. But that's because I prefer the newer thrashier Bodom to the older neoclassical sound (and I do love both).

EDIT: They'll be back near the UK soon, touring Europe with Machine Head (awesome) and Slipknot (ugh).

November 07 - Old Ice Hall, Helsinki (FIN)
November 08 - Ice Hall, Tampere (FIN)
November 10 - Spektrum, Oslo (N)
November 12 - Hovet, Stockholm (S)
November 13 - KB Hallen, Copenhagen (DK)
November 14 - Markthalle, Hamburg (D) *
November 17 - Eishalle Deutweg, Winterthur (CH)
November 18 - Palasharp, Milan (I)
November 20 - HMH, Amsterdam (NL)
November 21 - Zenith, Paris (F)
November 22 - Zenith, Paris (F)
November 23 - Garage, Saarbrücken (D) *
December 14 - Lotto Arena, Antwerp (B)
December 15 - Rockhal, Luxemburg (L)

The dates with *'s are Bodom headlining dates. The main tour is headlined by Slipknot.
They are coming quite near me, but I'm not paying about $80 to see shitknot headline.. I'll see them at Wacken anyway, and I'm not even that much into them

Delanoir

07-11-2008, 09:49 PM

They are coming quite near me, but I'm not paying about $80 to see shitknot headline.. I'll see them at Wacken anyway, and I'm not even that much into them

I love Bodom and Machine Head, and paying that much for a show where Slipknot headlines, would be doubtful.

EDIT: And for those in the US, one will notice a gap of time (September and October) between the shows in Japan, and Europe.

Supposedly this will be the headlining tour CoB are doing in the States.

[I Buy Peace]

07-12-2008, 08:39 AM

I'm definatly going seeing them play with Machine Head. Machine head are one of my favorite bands, and COB are my favorite band. When Slipknot come on i'm just going to go to the bar though. If i'm lucky I might meet someone from Machinehead or Bodom there. When I went to Defenders of the faith I had to leave before Arch Enemy finnished to catch my train ( :sad: ). But at the bar on the way out I saw one of Devildrivers guitarists at the bar (Mike). I talked to him for about two minuites, got a photo and he sighned my phone because I couldn't find anything else for him to sighn.

TheUnholy

07-12-2008, 10:51 AM

Hm... notable lack of UK dates there...any idea why?

[I Buy Peace]

07-12-2008, 05:53 PM

Because they've just done the UK mini tour that went to every major city in the UK exept manchester :mad:

But there going to be touring with Slipknot (Boo!) and Machine Head (Yay!) in the future. Probly the end of this year/begining of next year.

I still want to see them headline sometime though.

Delanoir

07-12-2008, 06:44 PM

Scans from the August issue of Total Guitar

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/scan0103.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/scan0104.jpg

foxthor_rider2k

07-12-2008, 10:07 PM

Woo, CoB thread!

Haha, sorry 'bout that I've just been looking for a while now.

UG's Alexi Laiho?

I like it. :D

Megadethfan92

07-13-2008, 12:34 AM

yeah CoB friekin rocks man i saw them on gigantour man they sound great live especially Alexi Laiho vocals and friekin sweet guitar playing you got to go see them they will riff your head off man!

burrit0

07-13-2008, 12:35 AM

Riff my head off!?!? I have to see them now!

GibsonTheGuitar

07-13-2008, 12:47 AM

Cool band no doubt, but to me it always seems like their intros blow me away.. then it just settles into these really average verses, both guitar wise and vocal wise.

[[It's Alex]]

07-13-2008, 07:47 AM

Niseee, Bodom are coming here :]
I'm too scared to go though ;[

[I Buy Peace]

07-13-2008, 05:06 PM

Hey Delanoir, is there any Bodom songs tabbed in this months TG?

]"]Niseee, Bodom are coming here :]
I'm too scared to go though ;[

Why are you too scarred?

foxthor_rider2k

07-13-2008, 05:19 PM

CoB plays almost perfectly live. Have you seen Stockholm Knockout? Its great.

TheUnholy

07-13-2008, 06:46 PM

]"]Niseee, Bodom are coming here :]
I'm too scared to go though ;[

GIGS AREN'T DANGEROUS.

When will people get this through their heads?

[I Buy Peace]

07-13-2008, 08:00 PM

Might sound abit fanboyish, maybie it is abit, but mostly that it's anwsome slogan really. I want the 'guitar playes finger better' shirt that Alexi has been wearing alot lateley!

JC13

07-13-2008, 08:23 PM

GIGS AREN'T DANGEROUS.

When will people get this through their heads?

I have a permanent scar/line type thing across my abs from Bodom in may - during gigantour, of course I went to it 90% to see Bodom, other 10% to see In Flames and Deth.. But that's my fault for ridin' the rail for the whole night. Great live band, will see them every time they come here. But yeah, I semi-agree, though I've been to enough rough concerts now to know my way around.

TheUnholy

07-13-2008, 08:26 PM

I have a permanent scar/line type thing across my abs from Bodom in may - during gigantour, of course I went to it 90% to see Bodom, other 10% to see In Flames and Deth.. But that's my fault for ridin' the rail for the whole night.

Well, yeah. You can get hurt if you pit hard, or join the crush right at the front, or whatever. But to say that means gigs are dangerous is like saying picnics are dangerous because you might fall out of a tree - you won't if you don't f*cking climb any. Personally, I can take care of myself, so i go in the pits, and I know that every so often I'll suffer a bit for it - got a beautiful scraped knee during Bodom at Download, for example. But if you don't want danger, then there isn't any - you can just stand back a bit and enjoy the show, there'll always be hundreds of people doing just that.

TheBodomBullet

07-14-2008, 12:41 AM

Hate Crew Deathroll was pure garbage, IMO.

They've BEEN THRU THIS ALREADY.

They had to rebuild their lives after they were homeless and had their instruments stolen lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAC668BNP64&feature=related

Delanoir

07-14-2008, 01:20 AM

']Hey Delanoir, is there any Bodom songs tabbed in this months TG?

I don't think so, but I'll check and scan them if there are.

']Might sound abit fanboyish, maybie it is abit, but mostly that it's anwsome slogan really. I want the 'guitar playes finger better' shirt that Alexi has been wearing alot lateley!

I don't blame you, I want it too.

GIGS AREN'T DANGEROUS.

When will people get this through their heads?

You have to consider the fact that she's a small teenage girl, and living in Germany.

Still, you probably won't get hurt unless you put yourself in a dangerous situation, like you mentioned.

[[It's Alex]]

07-14-2008, 05:47 AM

Well let's seeeeee
I've never been to a show before, I'm not exactly allowed...
I'm scared of violence but I'd love to see Bodom.
I'm not rly sure about the crowds here, like if there's awful moshing or anything.
And I'm kindof tiny ;[
Soyeah, don't get all :@ at me.

whalepudding

07-14-2008, 06:37 AM

You could always not go in the mosh.

Magero

07-14-2008, 06:47 AM

You could always not go in the mosh.
Logic rules.

the memory

07-14-2008, 08:14 AM

pits really arent that bad, even the big ones!

ok sure you might walk away with a few bruises...
but if you fall people make the effort to pick you up/help you etc

or you could just not go in them?

666_Pounder

07-14-2008, 08:29 AM

When I saw them it wasn't that bad really.

TheUnholy

07-14-2008, 08:45 AM

You could always not go in the mosh.

The man's a genius!

To [[It's Alex]] - One of my friends is probably the smallest person you will ever meet, she's 18, and she gets terrified in crush/pit. She's come with me to both the Black Crusade (Arch Enemy, Trivium, Machine Head) and the Download festival, and been absolutely fine - the only problem came one time when we persuaded her to ocme right down to the front for Disturbed, when she got a bit freaked.

So yeah, I can guarantee you that you'll be fine. There WILL be moshing, and violence, et cetera, but it's an opt-in thing. Like I said, just choose to stand back and watch instead. You'll love it :)

[I Buy Peace]

07-14-2008, 09:21 AM

You don't need to go in pits. I almost never pit at gigs. If I pay to see a band I want to watch them, not run around in a circle.

I prefer been right at the front as close to the band as possible but it's hard to get right against the front, theres always a row of 7ft dudes infront of me. I have just as much fun more towards the back with a beer. Infact I find when your further back you can hear and see the band more clearly

Gibson06

07-14-2008, 09:47 AM

My policy is get as close to the soundboard as possible. This is generally where it sounds the best, and I don't pay 50+ dollars for a ticket to fling mud and get drunk.

yoozum

07-14-2008, 10:58 AM

Magero

07-14-2008, 11:15 AM

I've never ever ever ever walked away from a pit with an injury except the Bodom pit. And that was because Brisbane is full of wankers.

MAKETHEMSUFFER!

07-14-2008, 11:28 AM

The one Bodom show I went to (Gigantour), I got split up from my friends in the chaos and ended up being nearly crushed to death in the middle. I couldn't enjoy the music that much because I spent every second trying to not get engulfed by the insane crowd. This fall, I'm planning on just chilling at the edge of the pit in the back, where it's a bit more calm, so that I can actually enjoy the music.

I don't enjoy pits at all. I really don't get the point of moshing and I don't think that I ever will.
same thing happened to me when i saw them at gigantour. i was pretty close to the front bars, and by the time they finished living dead beat, i was halfway to the back of the freakin venue. such a brutal fucking crowd.

Magero

07-14-2008, 11:34 AM

It's funny, Bodom think their pits are intense because THEY'RE intense.
When in reality, their pits are intense because they're filled with retard scene kids, and twats who would never go to a show otherwise, because "Bodom is as heavy as I listen to". So none of them understand true mosh etiquite (you pick someone up if they fall, you don't slam people into barriers, you don't use people as boosts to crowd surf without asking in some way, etc).

[I Buy Peace]

07-14-2008, 11:54 AM

I fully agree. There are rules to pits. People just think it's an excuse to hit people and run away but it's not. People who fall over need to be picked back up to prevent a serious injury

shenanigans

07-14-2008, 12:50 PM

The one Bodom show I went to (Gigantour), I got split up from my friends in the chaos and ended up being nearly crushed to death in the middle. I couldn't enjoy the music that much because I spent every second trying to not get engulfed by the insane crowd. This fall, I'm planning on just chilling at the edge of the pit in the back, where it's a bit more calm, so that I can actually enjoy the music.

I don't enjoy pits at all. I really don't get the point of moshing and I don't think that I ever will.

Agreed, I hate moshing, and only do it if all my buddies are also in the pit.
I mean seriously, all that really ensues from the pit is a really aching body and maybe a broken bone. Not fun IMO.

TheUnholy

07-14-2008, 01:28 PM

IMO, it's part of engaging with the brutality of the music, and also part of the "gig experience". I can listen to a band at home, I go to a concert to do more than just hear their songs. I want to watch the guitarists' fingers fly, I want to engage with the music as fully as possible, and I want to be part of a crowd that inspires the band. It's great as a metal musician when you see crazy pits, it's a nice visual indicator that you're actually going down well.

Also, how many times, when listening to metal, have you just wanted to jump around and break stuff? That's what pits are, a fun way of releasing that, of letting the energy in your body correspond to the energy in the music. I do like to stand and watch the bands and sing along, especially when it's one of my favourite songs, but I also love to pit it up - I tend to divide my time between the two. Although some bands - like most HXC and metalcore bands - demand a higher mosh-rate.

I also always pit when the band's singer demands it. You know, when they scream "I wanna see a f*cking circle pit all the way to the back" or something. It's only polite to join in then :p:.

All IMO of course, I do understand that for some people it just isn't their thing.

yoozum

07-14-2008, 02:25 PM

Yeah, it's simply not my thing. I wasn't even in the pit during Gigantour, but I almost sprained my wrist and I was knocked down and ended up losing my glasses case (glasses inside, which I should never have brought in the first place), though some nice dudes picked me up after I fell. This was just during the Bodom set...In Flames were much more tame; that, and I wisely stood off a bit to the side.

Probably the funniest incident at the Gigantour I went to was during In Flames, where this girl I saw got her ass grabbed by an older guy. So she asks me and my friends to help lift her to crowd surf, so after she's airborne, she kicks that guy in the face. Pretty funny stuff, though I'm sure it happens all the time.

ShredtoBed

07-14-2008, 02:30 PM

Haha Ive seen chicks crowdsurf just to hit dudes. Goood ****.

Yeah, moshing isnt too bad when everyone knows what theyre doing. When people fall down and whatnot people give them time to get up and help them back to their feet. Usually people arent purposefully violent either (decking eachother in the face).

Although when some scene fag punched me in the kidney in a pit I laid him out.

Magero

07-14-2008, 04:11 PM

I've had two "mosh stories" I like.
1. At the Overcranked festival in 07, in the God Forbid pit. In the midst of the giant circle pit, I felt my arm collide with something hard (like, harder than usual, felt like it was broken for about about an hour) and when I got out at the end of the band's set, this dude came up to me with a nose that was like, bleeding EVERYWHERE, just pouring out. He pointed at my arm, pointed at his nose, gave me two thumbs up, a huge grin and then ran off....
Quite surreal....

2. At Job For A Cowboy in 07, I was on the barrier for the entire set, after 2 or 3 songs of full on headbanging, I turn around to find my mate and I see this scene kid (weedy little punk) standing behind me, looked like he was about to throw a punch. So when the next song started, I just shoved him once and he fell back, right into the circle pit and just disappeared.

TheUnholy

07-14-2008, 06:34 PM

KoRnBitch

07-15-2008, 05:42 PM

COB are headlining Woo! Can't wait. I'm going either September 19 or the 21st. Or both :)

dminishedthingy

07-15-2008, 06:37 PM

COB are headlining Woo! Can't wait. I'm going either September 19 or the 21st. Or both :)
September 12 for me :cheers:
anyone know who the "special guest" is?

CodySG

07-16-2008, 03:07 AM

PUSWA'S!!!!!!

Just be a force in teh pitz.

In Oklahoma, we have TINY ass girls that will tear you up in the pit, it's freakin' crazy...

Also, just buy the GPFB shirt off sik world. I've had mine for like three months :D

TheMantipede

07-16-2008, 03:13 AM

September 12 for me :cheers:
anyone know who the "special guest" is?
It's Black Dahlia Murder. So sad I can't get in on this amazing tour.

the memory

07-16-2008, 01:54 PM

It's Black Dahlia Murder. So sad I can't get in on this amazing tour.
children of bodom.......AND BLACK DAHLIA MURDER?

oh my *faints*
why couldnt that come here :(

dminishedthingy

07-16-2008, 02:03 PM

eh, BDM are pretty meh for me
still gonna be a great show though

Magero

07-16-2008, 02:18 PM

Haha, Magero, I've been on the other end of that first story. During Ill Nino at Download '07, the very first pit I went into all festival ended very quickly for me, after some guy's elbow collideds with my face. Had blood streaming all down me, so a lot of people gave me concerned looks as I left the arena to tidy up, but I just gave them all massive grins and the devil horns. One person thrust a wad of tissue to me to clean up with. I have no idea WHY they had a bog roll in the 2nd stage at DL, but I was dman grateful :p:.

Turns out my nose got broken, and it's a slightly different shape now, though I didn't realise this for ages. XD
During Divine Heresy's set at Soundwave 08, I was on the barrier at the start, with like....easily over a thousand people slamming into me, it was 40 degrees celcius (104 F) and it was open air with no shade. About 4 songs in, I had to get out, I got about half way out of the pit and just vomitted EVERYWHERE. Like, collapsed and just puked up everything from about a month, I swear. All the meanwhile, people are taking photos, so I just threw up the horns and kept vomitting.

the memory

07-16-2008, 03:04 PM

During Divine Heresy's set at Soundwave 08, I was on the barrier at the start, with like....easily over a thousand people slamming into me, it was 40 degrees celcius (104 F) and it was open air with no shade. About 4 songs in, I had to get out, I got about half way out of the pit and just vomitted EVERYWHERE. Like, collapsed and just puked up everything from about a month, I swear. All the meanwhile, people are taking photos, so I just threw up the horns and kept vomitting.

a true metal trooper!

giving the horns WHILE being sick!
epic man!

steve-mercer

07-16-2008, 03:07 PM

silent night bodom night and bed of razors is sick

dminishedthingy

07-16-2008, 03:09 PM

^^^i think that deserves a whole-hearted WHOOO!

thrashOWNZ

07-16-2008, 03:22 PM

can anyone explain to me what LoBodomy is supposed to mean? I heard it was a pun, but i dont understand it.

dminishedthingy

07-16-2008, 03:26 PM

a Lobotomy is a type of brain surgery

yoozum

07-16-2008, 03:26 PM

It's a pun on lobotomy.

thrashOWNZ

07-16-2008, 03:29 PM

oh thanks

foxthor_rider2k

07-16-2008, 07:24 PM

I was wondering... What do you guys and gals think is the best Bodom song to learn? Because I've never been able to play his solos, though. I was hoping you guys could help out.

CodySG

07-16-2008, 09:07 PM

Which ever one you want really...

I mean, there are some "easier" bodom songs, but none of them are really a walk in the park.

Best bet, just find your favorite song and just stick with it. You'll feel like you've accomplished a lot more, at least I do.

yoozum

07-16-2008, 10:06 PM

Hate Crew Deathroll is very easy apart from the solo

foxthor_rider2k

07-16-2008, 11:30 PM

I've been working on Angels Don't Kill... And I wanna learn Are You Dead Yet. I've been sticking to Dropped C songs for now, because I don't feel like re-tuning my Floyd.

Delanoir

07-17-2008, 05:15 AM

Damn Magero, that's intense. And totally metal. I'm tempted to grant you honorary Finnish status.

But yeah, no Bodom songs are really easy, just easier than other Bodom songs. People say the older albums are more difficult, but that's not entirely true. They're more neoclassical in style, but the thrashier material of the newer albums can be just as hard. It simply depends on what you're good at, and used to playing stylistically.

So like Cody said, pick a favorite and stick to it. Otherwise you'll just feel daunted after certain points and wander aimlessly through songs without making much real progress.

My problem is when some (a lot) of Alexi's solos are just too much all at once to handle, from a learning perspective. But you just have to break it down, and take it slowly, bit by bit.

Well, that, and being stuck in Drop C due to my floyd on my SV. Thankfully, that encompases most Bodom songs I play.

Something Wild - C# Standard
Hatebreeder - D Standard
Follow the Reaper - D Standard
HCDR - D Standard, except Sixpounder and Angels Don't Kill which are in Drop C
AYDY - Drop C
Blooddrunk - Drop C

The problem is when I can't transpose from D Standard to Drop C. I don't play as much off of SW or Hatebreeder. Except Downfall.

[I Buy Peace]

07-17-2008, 05:43 AM

Yea I agree. Every bodom song is compicated, or atleast has a complicated part. In the earlier stuff the solos are harder, in the later stuff the riffs are harder in my opinion. That said Angels don't kill is probly their easiest song to play, on any instrument I think. But Bed of Razors is really fun to play. If you tackle it in chunks it doesn't take long to learn

Magero

07-17-2008, 05:44 AM

The Rhythm to Angels Don't Kill is probably the easiest they have.

TheUnholy

07-17-2008, 07:22 AM

Well, that, and being stuck in Drop C due to my floyd on my SV. Thankfully, that encompases most Bodom songs I play.

Something Wild - C# Standard
Hatebreeder - D Standard
Follow the Reaper - D Standard
HCDR - D Standard, except Sixpounder and Angels Don't Kill which are in Drop C
AYDY - Drop C
Blooddrunk - Drop C

The problem is when I can't transpose from D Standard to Drop C. I don't play as much off of SW or Hatebreeder. Except Downfall.

...or you could just whip out an allen key and spend five seconds changing tuning of the low C up to low D?

the memory

07-17-2008, 08:10 AM

but then hed need to rebalance all the other strings, and possibly alter the springs in the back

d-tuna on my peavey FTW! :D

webbtje

07-17-2008, 08:12 AM

And then spend a tedious amount of time retuning the other strings? Unless you have a ZR bridge, drop tunings/tuning changes are a pain in the arse.

ShredtoBed

07-17-2008, 08:49 AM

d-tuna seems a bit expensive for what it does...

I dont mind taking the 5 seconds to loosten an allen nut!

Although, forget changing to d-standard. Theeeeeen you have to adjust the springs, strings are usually too slack, etc, etc

the memory

07-17-2008, 09:29 AM

ShredtoBed

07-17-2008, 09:33 AM

Oh nice!

It seems super convenient as I switch back on forth between drop D and standard (Or drop C and d standard) but Im cheap :)

the memory

07-17-2008, 09:35 AM

Oh nice!

It seems super convenient as I switch back on forth between drop D and standard (Or drop C and d standard) but Im cheap :)
yeh, i'll admit it is pretty awkward to fit to normal guitars with floating trems

my peavey is the EVH one, so it has a dive only trem and actually comes with the d-tuna so its cool :)

its actually really handy, i didnt realise until i got my jackson and i went to switch to drop D and realised it wasnt there haha

foxthor_rider2k

07-17-2008, 08:22 PM

Yeah, I have a Jackson. And tuning it sucks. But I'm hoping to get my Schecter back soon! I have it being worked on. Except my Rhoads is the only guitar I have with thick strings. I may end up sticking my SG in D Standard but I dunno.

eazy-c

07-17-2008, 08:59 PM

I've lost my signed Hellhounds vinyl :(

ZylitoL

07-17-2008, 10:07 PM

No Canada dates? There better be a Canadian leg following the US tour!

foxthor_rider2k

07-18-2008, 03:39 AM

I want to go to a Bodom show... But I don't think I'd be allowed. :( My parents... *sigh* Someday...

Delanoir

07-18-2008, 03:55 AM

I've lost my signed Hellhounds vinyl :(

:eek:

That's not good. How could you even manage to lose it?

rwalby9

07-18-2008, 04:07 AM

Who else is going to the LA show?

Magero

07-18-2008, 05:18 AM

foxthor_rider2k

07-18-2008, 04:40 PM

Never heard of the Gryphon, what's it like man?
I'm a Schecter nut so ;)

It was a limited edition Schecter only sold at Guitar Center. They don't sell it anymore, I don't believe. Mine has Duncan Designed HB-103s (I think), 24 frets, pearloid inlays, and a string-thru bridge.

Here's a pic:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8564/geargryphonyl5.jpg

That's the same color as mine.

(Hope that's not too off-topic :p: )

Delanoir

07-18-2008, 06:50 PM

Well, if we're talking guitars, I still love mine more than any other. :p:

http://www.franky-net.eu/img/guitars/ESPSV/CIMG2475.JPG
http://www.franky-net.eu/img/guitars/ESPSV/CIMG2488.JPG
http://www.franky-net.eu/img/guitars/ESPSV/CIMG2469.JPG

lilboisX3

07-18-2008, 07:11 PM

bjovi400

07-18-2008, 07:15 PM

wow dude, you suck ^

lilboisX3

07-18-2008, 07:19 PM

It is a nice guitar otherwise. I hope thats not perminent.

bjovi400

07-18-2008, 07:21 PM

anyway, i was listening to Follow the Reaper, and i got a thought. How awesome would it be to see Alexi Laiho, duel with some classical shredder like Yngwie or someone. That would be sick.

the memory

07-18-2008, 07:59 PM

i do love those SVs!

the neck idea with the unpainted is sheer genius!
i also love the single dial!

sexay guitar ;)

dminishedthingy

07-18-2008, 08:19 PM

wow del, thats pretty sexy
i love the gold hardware

Delanoir

07-18-2008, 09:18 PM

Thats a nice guitar, except the lame Alexi Laiho graphics. Which actually ruin the guitar because:

A) Someone elses design
B) leads people to believe you are a fanboy
C) Alexi Laiho is overrated and quite frankly a terrible vocalist.

cheers

This guitar is the SV, not the Alexi Signature, which would have different inlays, hardware coloring, and only a bridge pickup (and a different pickup, at that). Not to mention his signature on the headstock.

You do realize that the ESP SV has been around longer than Alexi has been signed to the company? It was made by them long before that.

And thanks guys, I really love it. It feels and plays great, better (to me) than any guitar I've ever played, I'd suggest it to anyone.

EDIT: Picture for comparison.

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_saw_tooth.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/bshuker/SV-Standard_BK-1.jpg

Similar? Of course. In the same way that any signature guitar is similar to the guitar it's based upon.

Stranglehold

07-18-2008, 09:20 PM

I was just skimming through threads a while ago and BAM I saw it... man that is a beautiful guitar, it looks like you keep it immaculate too.

Savage piece of gear!

IronMaiden5

07-18-2008, 09:26 PM

This guitar is the SV, not the Alexi Signature, which would have different inlays, hardware coloring, and only a bridge pickup (and a different pickup, at that).

You do realize that the ESP SV has been around longer than Alexi has been signed to the company? It was made by them long before that.

And thanks guys, I really love it. It feels and plays great, better (to me) than any guitar I've ever played, I'd suggest it to anyone.
It looks really nice. Where did you get it? I looked on their website and it wasn't on it. And how much did it cost?

the memory

07-18-2008, 09:26 PM

i prefer the SV, i dont really like alexi's sigs

i like his old jacksons though

Delanoir

07-18-2008, 09:34 PM

Thanks again, it really sounds (and plays) amazing.

As much as I love Alexi, and his guitar, I prefer the SV. I just use the neck pickup too much, personally. And the dot inlays don't really bother me anymore, even if I do generally prefer something more interesting.

I got it from bMusic, a webstore out of Australia. They're run by the nicest and most helpful guys I've ever communicated with (in a business fashion) online, and even better than most real stores, to be honest. They answered any and every question I had, and even did a pro setup before shipping it out. Of course, it came with the ESP custom hard leather case, which is ridiculously large, and a leather ESP guitar strap.

Because of the Jackson copyright of the RR shape, ESP can't sell the SV or RV (which I believe has one bridge pickup, but isn't the Alexi) in the United States. However, a lot of stores do anyway. It's just a matter of good timing, talking to the right people, and a little luck. How much they cost all depends on where you're getting it from. Mine was about $2500, with the case and everything.

Worth every dollar. I've never regretted it.

dminishedthingy

07-18-2008, 09:36 PM

:haha the Australian black market guitar dealers...

the memory

07-18-2008, 10:10 PM

Delanoir, see that company, do they ship worldwide?

Delanoir

07-19-2008, 12:00 AM

Delanoir, see that company, do they ship worldwide?

I'm pretty sure they do, and if you don't live in the US, the copyright doesn't apply, so there's no reason for them not to sell it to you.

foxthor_rider2k

07-19-2008, 01:09 AM

Delanoir

07-19-2008, 01:55 AM

First time I've ever wished I didn't live in the states...

But I'm happy with my RR3. EMG 81/85 combo, too.

I love your guitar Delanoir!

Are the pups 81/85s?

EDIT: Do you guys know which Angels Don't Kill tab is best/most like the way Alexi plays it? The one I have doesn't seem quite right.

I prefer living in Finland or Sweden, personally. :p:

The US is great though, and is where I've been for a while now.

And thanks! They're actually both 81's. I might change the neck to an 85 though, or maybe just both of them to Blackouts.

Supposedly, Alexi has been using active EMGs lately, from recent live pictures. But no one can tell what kind.

And I'm not sure which is most accurate, I mixed two different ones together into what sounded the most right, to me. Plus a bit by ear.

IronMaiden5

07-19-2008, 02:57 AM

kenan6346

07-19-2008, 03:11 AM

Well, if we're talking guitars, I still love mine more than any other. :p:

*****able pics*

I open this thread and I see that beaut, I envy anyone who has that piece of art! :D

Delanoir

07-19-2008, 03:19 AM

Damn that sucks that they can't sell those in the US. It looks really nice. I would probably rather have that than Alexi's because it has the neck pickup. Although, Alexi's is nice too. It's odd they can sell Alexi's guitar but not the other one, because besides a couple of things, they are a lot alike. Alexi's looks a lot like Randy Rhoads's signature guitar too.

Actually, the Alexi I posted a picture of is the real Alexi signature guitar, and NOT the one you can buy in the US.

The one you get from ESP (and LTD) in the US isn't the real one either.

ESP (US Alexi)
http://www.espguitars.com/images/guitars/Alexi_ESP_BLK.jpg
http://www.espguitars.com/images/guitars/Alexi_ESP_WHT.jpg

ESP (the real Alexi)
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_saw_tooth.jpg
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_scythe.jpg
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_arrow_head.jpg

and, of course...

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_ps.jpg
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_ps_.jpg

I open this thread and I see that beaut, I envy anyone who has that piece of art! :D

Thanks! :D

the memory

07-19-2008, 06:35 AM

i knew there was a difference in the shape, but i had no idea it was that noticeable until they are side by side! haha

cheers for that info man!

TheUnholy

07-19-2008, 07:30 AM

Del - not only is your guitar awesome, but your photography of it is f*cking LUSH. Makes it look even more omigodIwantone.

Alexi's pink guitar is hawt.

[I Buy Peace]

07-19-2008, 08:42 PM

New ESP interview with Alexi (http://www.espguitars.com/esptv/alexi_interview_08.html)

Hope it hasn't been posted yet

foxthor_rider2k

07-19-2008, 09:29 PM

Honestly, that's the only pink guitar I would ever consider owning. Simply because no one else I know would have it. And the COBHC logo on the back is a nice touch.

And the stripes on Alexi's real ones look cooler. The single stripe on the ESP/LTDs look bad, IMO. I like his white one the most. Then the black. Then his Wildchild guitar. lol

IronMaiden5

07-20-2008, 12:37 AM

Actually, the Alexi I posted a picture of is the real Alexi signature guitar, and NOT the one you can buy in the US.

The one you get from ESP (and LTD) in the US isn't the real one either.

ESP (US Alexi)
http://www.espguitars.com/images/guitars/Alexi_ESP_BLK.jpg
http://www.espguitars.com/images/guitars/Alexi_ESP_WHT.jpg

ESP (the real Alexi)
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_saw_tooth.jpg
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_scythe.jpg
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_arrow_head.jpg

and, of course...

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_ps.jpg
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/alexi_laiho/alexi_laiho_ps_.jpg

The real one looks so much better than the U.S. one. I've got a poster on my wall with that guitar with Zakk Wylde and Steve Vai's signatures guitars. It came from an issue of Guitar World I got a couple of years back with all three of them on the cover.

Alter-Bridge

07-20-2008, 01:27 AM

I'd love that pink guitar if the inlays were darker and more pink.

TheMantipede

07-20-2008, 01:53 AM

I don't mind the pink, but I'd like to see a dark red version of it.

IronMaiden5

07-20-2008, 02:07 AM

Yeah, the pink isn't bad. I agree that the inlays should be darker. But, I agree with TheMantipede, a dark red version would look cool. I think one with green would look cool too.

CodySG

07-20-2008, 05:59 AM

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PINKPIUNKPNINEK@NO!NI#HRNIQ@HRU!@H$~H!~IH~@~!@~~~~~~!@!!1

*orgasm*

*dies*

I will own it soon...you all shall see.....

And honestly, I don't care if people think I'm an Alexi fanboi, because...well...I am and would probably suck ballz if he asked me to.

That said, I've mainly been playing the drop C stuff as of late too, only I use drop D because my VHT is a picky little bitch and doesn't really like anything lower than that.

Also...

PINKPIUNKPINKNMPNIRANBWKNROJI@H!!!!!!

Delanoir

07-20-2008, 06:17 AM

Yeah, the pink isn't bad. I agree that the inlays should be darker. But, I agree with TheMantipede, a dark red version would look cool. I think one with green would look cool too.

The inlays are in fact darker than that picture makes them look. Here's a better picture of their actual color.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/scan0038.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3889/9pinkalexiyc2.jpg

Dark red to me would be kind of cliche, but it might still be cool. And green is actually quite likely, since Alexi's second favorite guitar (first being the Wildchild) was a black Custom Shop Jackson RR with green pinstripes. He used it quite a bit for Sinergy. It wasn't stolen like his other guitars, and he even used it after getting signed to ESP (he had to cover the Jackson logo with black tape when playing live, as you can see in the pics) but supposedly somehow became broken at the neck.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2197/3greenpinguitarzj9.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1294/alexigreenjacksonarmsupqk3.jpg

Magero

07-20-2008, 07:53 AM

Max, I swear to god if you weren't so awesome, I'd midget rape you so hard for killing my internet with all those pics.....

TheUnholy

07-20-2008, 10:25 AM

(he had to cover the Jackson logo with black tape when playing live, as you can see in the pics)

That's a bit screwed up. Just because you endorse a brand, you should still be able to be seen with other guitars. Sometimes you might need a different sound or something ...like, Kirk Hammet and James Hetfield are on ESP, but Kirk breaks a Jackson RR out occasionally, and I think James uses Gibsons as well. F*ck being tied to one brand for a laugh.

[I Buy Peace]

07-20-2008, 10:45 AM

yea, hetfield almost never plays his truckster signature. He's mostly playing gibsons or a ken lawrence explorer. but then again metalica are huge and endorsing companys will be alot more lenient with them.

Yea and i really like Roopes green pinstriped flying V. I mean imaculate guitars look awsome but naturally weatherd ones have more character, you can see how much sone has played it. They also usually feel better too.

Delanoir

07-20-2008, 09:12 PM

Actually, I'm not sure if Alexi was asked to do that by ESP, or if he just did it himself for whatever reason. Maybe he was pissed off at Jackson for endorsing them constantly, and never getting any help. He bought every RR he owned, which included at least 3 Custom Shop guitars. His first, though, he bought second hand from the other guitarist of Stone. It's a black RR with grey pinstripes.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1070/1stoneguitaret8.jpg

and the green pinstripe RR is actually not Roope's. It and the Wildchild are both CS Jackson guitars designed and bought by Alexi. I'm honestly not sure why he taped up the headstock.

Max, I swear to god if you weren't so awesome, I'd midget rape you so hard for killing my internet with all those pics.....

midget rape? :haha

:p:

foxthor_rider2k

07-20-2008, 10:23 PM

Woah... :eek: Alexi looks weird with that red hair...

ZylitoL

07-21-2008, 02:05 AM

The word on the street is...

Bodom will not hit Canada on this tour leg due to another tour line up for them after, where they will be a opening act. Unfortunate but true.
This means another 40 minute set like Gigantour. Oh well.
Any guesses on the headliner?

FRDesign

07-21-2008, 02:16 AM

The word on the street is...

This means another 40 minute set like Gigantour. Oh well.
Any guesses on the headliner?
DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really wanna see bodom!

ZylitoL

07-21-2008, 02:31 AM

Well you'll get to see them, just not for the full 90 minutes.

Somewhat disappointing though as long as the headliner is solid and Alexi spices up the setlist a little bit (starting with getting rid of In Your Face), I'm content.

CodySG

07-21-2008, 04:25 AM

I think In Your Face is a great song, and a perfect live song to burn off some steam.

But meh, each their own.

[I Buy Peace]

07-21-2008, 06:57 AM

And the green pinstripe RR is actually not Roope's. It and the Wildchild are both CS Jackson guitars designed and bought by Alexi

Hmm. I wonder we never saw much of this guitar during the earlier years then. The earliest pics I've seen of it are HCDR era. And by that point it already looks battard. Maybie he only used that one for sinergy or somephing

TheUnholy

07-21-2008, 08:28 AM

I'm with Cody. Well, actually, I'd go further - I think In Your Face is a great song full stop, but especially awesome live.

Because there's nothing like knowing that the thousands of people around you don't give a flying f*cki motherf*cker either.

Delanoir

07-21-2008, 07:32 PM

']Hmm. I wonder we never saw much of this guitar during the earlier years then. The earliest pics I've seen of it are HCDR era. And by that point it already looks battard. Maybie he only used that one for sinergy or somephing

Yeah, I think he only used it for Sinergy. At least, that's where I only ever saw it used.

and I also agree that In Your Face is a great song, especially live.

The group chants are awesome on the record, but work out amazingly with a huge audience to join in.

On that note, here are some new live pictures I found.

http://iloapp.amys-box.se/data/_gallery/public/15/1216650827_resized.jpg

http://iloapp.amys-box.se/data/_gallery/public/15/1216650850_resized.jpg

http://iloapp.amys-box.se/data/_gallery/public/15/1216650844_resized.jpg

http://iloapp.amys-box.se/data/_gallery/public/15/1216650842_resized.jpg

http://iloapp.amys-box.se/data/_gallery/public/15/1216650845_resized.jpg

http://iloapp.amys-box.se/data/_gallery/public/15/1216650847_resized.jpg

http://iloapp.amys-box.se/data/_gallery/public/15/1216650848_resized.jpg

http://iloapp.amys-box.se/data/_gallery/public/15/1216650832_resized.jpg

http://iloapp.amys-box.se/data/_gallery/public/15/1216650834_resized.jpg

ZylitoL

07-21-2008, 07:42 PM

I'd rather have great CoB songs that never/rarely get played like Hatebreeder, Children of Decadence, Kissing the Shadows etc.

It's a subpar song that I don't mind hearing but not at the expense of other, better songs.

TheUnholy

07-21-2008, 07:48 PM

Alexi's right arm sleeve looks f*cking sick. Too many sleeves are just a wash of blurry colour, but his is really well-defined, it looks awesome.

Delanoir

07-21-2008, 08:00 PM

I'd rather have great CoB songs that never/rarely get played like Hatebreeder, Children of Decadence, Kissing the Shadows etc.

That usually tends to happen more when they get a longer set. Which would be when they headline. I look forward to their next live DVD.

I know they filmed Gigantour this year, and Bodom's had other performances filmed live lately, like Rockperry (which is where those pictures are from). But I don't know about something more along the lines of Chaos Ridden Years.

Alexi's right arm sleeve looks f*cking sick. Too many sleeves are just a wash of blurry colour, but his is really well-defined, it looks awesome.

Agreed.

Oh, and I forgot these.

http://kuvat.huumakuva.net/albums/userpics/10013/_MG_3489_copy.jpg

http://kuvat.huumakuva.net/albums/userpics/10013/_MG_3484_copy.jpg

http://kuvat.huumakuva.net/albums/userpics/10013/_MG_3458_copy.jpg

http://kuvat.huumakuva.net/albums/userpics/10002/KMB_4970.jpg

foxthor_rider2k

07-21-2008, 08:18 PM

I want to see Children of Decadence on a DVD. That's a SICK song.

And do you guys know, is he using the pink one in place of his white one or black one these days?

TheUnholy

07-21-2008, 08:25 PM

At Download, I think he had a white one until he brought the pink one out. My memory may have completely failed me though :p:

Delanoir

07-21-2008, 08:25 PM

I want to see Children of Decadence on a DVD. That's a SICK song.

And do you guys know, is he using the pink one in place of his white one or black one these days?

Lately he's been using the FIN guitar (the black one with yellow pinstripes, and sawtooth inlays up until his name in japanese at the 12th fret) and the pink one.

I forget what tuning each is in, I'll have to watch some recent live performances.

Still not sure which EMGs he's using, but they aren't the passive hz's, and they aren't SD Blackouts.

foxthor_rider2k

07-21-2008, 08:27 PM

The original ESPs, before they started using Blackouts, had an EMG-HZ H4. That is, if my memory is correct.

Delanoir

07-21-2008, 08:30 PM

The original ESPs, before they started using Blackouts, had an EMG-HZ H4. That is, if my memory is correct.

You would be correct, except that he then went to the Blackouts, and is now at least experimenting with using active EMG's.

I can tell because on pictures where you can see the pickups well enough, the logos on the pickups just say EMG (and not EMG-hz or Seymour Duncan).

GodofGuitar1991

07-21-2008, 08:31 PM

what song are they playing here?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2iLIhLv8LuY

foxthor_rider2k

07-21-2008, 08:31 PM

I can tell because on pictures where you can see the pickups well enough, the logos on the pickups just say EMG (and not EMG-hz or Seymour Duncan).

Maybe an EMG 85?

Delanoir

07-21-2008, 08:32 PM

what song are they playing here?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2iLIhLv8LuY

Vivaldi, Four Seasons, 'Summer'

Maybe an EMG 85?

Probably that, or an 81.

foxthor_rider2k

07-21-2008, 08:34 PM

Vivaldi, Four Seasons 'Summer'

Gotta love Alexi and Roope. :haha

Delanoir

07-21-2008, 08:36 PM

I thought it was cool when they played Move, by Waltari, which Roope was once in.

foxthor_rider2k

07-21-2008, 08:46 PM

I thought it was cool when they played Move, by Waltari, which Roope was once in.

Hmm... Haven't seen that one.

Delanoir

07-21-2008, 09:24 PM

[I Buy Peace]

07-21-2008, 09:54 PM

Yea i'm kinda supprised about seeing some active EMG's in some of Alexi's guitars. I don't understand why he didn't use them sooner lol

I've read in an interview that alexi isn't happy with the pickups he was using and that he's going to experiment (this interview was a while ago though when he was still using the HZ's I think. Actually I'm not shure, first time I saw him with a pickup in a ESP that wasn't a EMG-HZ was a picture of him with Jeff Waters around when 'metal' was released. The pickup was in the black and yellow ESP with the arrow inlays, it looks like a blackout even though they wern't out then, could have been a prototype, or just a normall SD livewire)

foxthor_rider2k

07-22-2008, 02:14 AM

Here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krRgIu2bbeY

The very beginning almost makes it sound like background music for a porn.

You can tell Alexi thought this, with the look on his face right as it starts.

That's pretty sick.

And you can tell Alexi was totally like "Yeah... Are we filming a porno or something?"

Delanoir

07-22-2008, 05:42 AM

I remember that article (I posted it), it was the Soundi one that came out a bit before the Guitar Heroes album from Finland.

It was on that album, and his song Sioux City Sarsaparilla, that was the first time he recorded with the Blackouts (and a Krank amp, actually). And then later he used them on Blooddrunk (and the Kerry King signature JCM800).

The reason why he didn't use them sooner, I think, was that for a long time he had the MM04 gainbooster. It sounds really bad with active pickups, which is why he used the passive ones when first switching to ESP.

Of course now he's been playing around with his sound. He ditched the gainbooster when he switched to the SD Blackouts. And now he's either using an 81 or 85. I love EMGs, but I don't know why Alexi would be using them now, when all I hear about the Blackouts is how much better they are.

CodySG

07-22-2008, 06:27 AM

Meh, Blackouts arn't better or worse IMO.

Just...different...

A lot of people say they sound more natural, but I think they color the sound a bit too much, some people have said they really like the BO neck in the bridge, so I might try that someday...

Also, the gainboost really doesn't sound "bad" it's just Alexi had this idea that his amp would like explode from the gain...it's more like a midboost really...

I do love EMG's though...18v 81/85's are one of my favorites :liplick:

All that said, Alexi's got that Steve Vai face going on :haha

And Henkka :love: my little sex pot!!! AHHH!!!!!

*faints*

Delanoir

07-22-2008, 07:11 AM

As far as the gainboost goes, the MM-04 is basically just like the JE1000. And considering he used the JE1000 with the J50BC combo before going to ESP, he was basically just finding an equivalent with EMG, hence the EMG-hz passive. There's honestly no real reason to use the gainbooster with an active, since it already has that covered.

I have yet to actually try the Blackouts, so I can't yet say anything from personal experience. What do you mean by coloring the sound too much?

I wonder how they sound when modded to 18v.

CodySG

07-22-2008, 08:57 AM

Yeah I know, but the reason I think it's kind of silly using the gainboost, is you could just use active EMG's and get basically the same thing....without that damn switch there....

...

Damn switch...

It's kind of like regular 9v EMG's. The blackouts sound like blackouts no matter what. It kind of...imposes the sound, whether you want it to or not. It's always there. No matter what amp, what guitar, whatever, it's going to sound like a blackout.

Like, I don't really like 9v EMG's that much, but 18 makes a WORLD of difference! *btw Max, if you haven't done an 18v to your baby...I kill you....with rabid pygmy gophers*

I think it just sounds a bit more natural, while still having that EMG kind of grind to it, just not as sterile sounding.

As far as the 18v blackouts go...I haven't heard anything :( but if it works like EMG's, should be gold :D I'm still wanting to hear a BO neck in the bridge. Heard good things, but I don't know yet :(

ShredtoBed

07-22-2008, 09:04 AM

So, Im going to see bodom on 9/11 in my town.

FUCK.

YEAH.

Magero

07-22-2008, 09:32 AM

I feel weird about Bodom at the moment....
I kinda...wish they had've just froze in time, right after HCDR and just kept touring the world like that for a few years....
Back when Alexi played in D standard, back when Henkka used a 5-string....
Back when the set-list wasn't 80% Drop C songs.....
-sigh-

the memory

07-22-2008, 01:52 PM

just back from my holidays, listened to hatebreeder all the way home ahha

definetly my fav album these days!
i miss when alexi wanted to be yngwie, played jacksons and didnt really wear proper clothes :(
haha

IcePh0enix

07-22-2008, 01:52 PM

Hey guys, I just thought of the greatest idea. Children of Bodom should go on tour with Korn. It would be the Korn on the COB tour lololololololololol.

Anyways, what album should I get by them that came out before Are You Dead Yet? I have that album and it's mediocre at best and I've heard their older stuff is better.

ZylitoL

07-22-2008, 01:56 PM

Pretty much all 4 studio albums prior to AYDY are solid. But get Hatebreeder and Follow the Reaper for sure.

Arkinazz

07-22-2008, 01:57 PM

I just bought Blooddrunk and I have to say that I like it better than the last album.

Magero

07-22-2008, 02:10 PM

the memory

07-22-2008, 02:13 PM

Yep.
Because you're TOTALLY the first person to think of that joke in this thread :rolleyes:
i've missed something haven't i......

CodySG

07-22-2008, 04:05 PM

Meh, I think that they're just playing the new stuff because....well...it's new...

Plus the new stuff gave them a huge fan base, tons of kids that never even heard of Children of Bodom before In Your Face started playing on Headbangers Ball.

I'm not saying I agree with them, but since Blooddrunk just came out, it's mostly going to be in drop c...

Still, I do wish a bit more variety in the older stuff that they do play. I mean, it's basically the same older songs again and again and again...

Does get a bit tiresome.

Still secksy though :D

yoozum

07-22-2008, 04:33 PM

I may be wrong, but Roadkill Morning sounds like it's in D standard. I haven't had a chance to look at a tab, though. So maybe there's still a chance for some D standard action.

[I Buy Peace]

07-22-2008, 04:48 PM

I wonder if they'll play towards dead end sometime in the future. It used to be their main closeing song before Downfall I belive, but now I don't think they play it atall

the memory

07-22-2008, 05:05 PM

yeh, i dont like how they ditched a lot of their early material

im still recovering from them playing deadnight warrior and mask of sanity when i saw them

but hatebreeder, towards dead end, touch like an angel of death would be awesome :/

Delanoir

07-22-2008, 06:12 PM

Cody: Of course I've made the 81's 18v :D

Magero: I know what you mean, I almost feel kind of the same way. But as I listen more and more to Blooddrunk, it gives me the idea that they almost do too. Especially considering they don't even play much AYDY anymore live. Especially when it's a headlining show, and they can play whatever they want to.

I still really like AYDY, mind you, but I still know what you mean. I usually do like D Standard better, but in all honesty, I also like Drop C just as much I find with Bodom since Blooddrunk. Hell, my favorite songs off of HCDR are in that tuning (Sixpounder, Angels Don't Kill).

After Blooddrunk isn't quite so new, and they're headlining more shows, I can see a return to older material. I think another part of the reason for the newer stuff taking precedent was the recent surge in popularity. So they (and/or the record label) might have wanted them to warm people up with the easier stuff to get into before delving back into the classics.

foxthor_rider2k

07-22-2008, 07:43 PM

Follow the Reaper, HCDR, and Hatebreeder are my favorite of their old ones. Actually, I'd say they're my favorite overall.

TheUnholy

07-22-2008, 07:50 PM

I find it odd that you guys seem to find the tuning that a song is in as instrumental to how much you like it...

IcePh0enix

07-22-2008, 08:00 PM

Yep.
Because you're TOTALLY the first person to think of that joke in this thread :rolleyes:
This is my first post in a 496 page thread. Do you really think I would look through this thread and steal a joke? It just popped into my head :peace:.

CodySG

07-22-2008, 08:36 PM

It's not the tuning per-say, mainly just like a different way of saying "new stuff" and "old stuff" since AYDY and BD are considered "new stuff" and in Drop C, while the "old stuff" *mind the couple of songs* are in D Standard.

ZylitoL

07-22-2008, 09:20 PM

I find it odd that you guys seem to find the tuning that a song is in as instrumental to how much you like it...
Pretty much, this. What's wrong with Drop C?

Delanoir

07-22-2008, 10:06 PM

I find it odd that you guys seem to find the tuning that a song is in as instrumental to how much you like it...

Pretty much, this. What's wrong with Drop C?

Nothing for me, I love Drop C.

And like Cody said, it's not so much the tuning in itself so much as some people's way of referring to newer or older material.

That said, the tuning does affect more than you think. Writing a song in a dropped tuning will give you a different set of intervals to work with, and will effect the riffs you make, at least somewhat.

ZylitoL

07-22-2008, 11:01 PM

That said, the tuning does affect more than you think. Writing a song in a dropped tuning will give you a different set of intervals to work with, and will effect the riffs you make, at least somewhat.
Well, yeah.

But if it's just a way of referring to old/new Bodom, that's fine I guess.

Magero

07-22-2008, 11:43 PM

I loathe trying to write "metal" songs in Drop Tunings because it always ending up another -core song.

However, a few of my "symphonic prog" pieces are in drop tunings because some of the chord shapes are impossible/near-impossible in standard.

But when you just use it like Bodom have, just to make those "chug" riffs, I hate it. Especially in Bodom's case because their tuning change just "happened" to coincide with their change in style....

-sigh-
Oh well.

TheMantipede

07-23-2008, 12:03 AM

In their defense, most HCDR was in D standard and still kinda chuggy, but I get what you're going for. Their new stuff definitely has a difference from the older material, but all bands evolve and grow, this is just the direction they've ended up taking, for better or worse.

Magero

07-23-2008, 12:16 AM

Yeah, I don't particularly "dislike" the newer stuff, I just kinda...like it less....
And sure, some songs work much better live (In Your Face = perfect example), but I just....I kinda like my "widdly widdly check it out, I wish I was a violinist" version of Bodom....
Wish I had've been able to see them before they got all "I AM ANGRY, FACE MY CHUG".

TheMantipede

07-23-2008, 12:25 AM

Yeah, when I'm listening to newer tracks, I can tell they're still putting plenty of effort into their songwriting, but their old really melodic riffs still will always be on top for me. Towards Dead End and Children of Bodom are such amazing songs.

CodySG

07-23-2008, 12:41 AM

Only sounds chugga if you write it like that...

I mean, it's only one string...you can basically play all of old Bodom stuff in drop C.

I like both styles. Just different, depending on my mood I'll like one over the other.

Just different...

foxthor_rider2k

07-23-2008, 01:51 AM

I agree with Cody. Most anything can be played, since it IS one string. But see, the thing is, I started listening to Bodom when AYDY came out. Then I kinda worked towards the older albums. I like the two different styles for different reasons.

But it seems to me that they're trying to stay ahead of the game. Back with the older stuff, they were considered progressive by some, and when bands like Dragonforce came around and started doing similar stuff... It seems like they thought "Let's try something kinda different." I mean, the style today isn't very revolutionary, but they lyrics are definitely different from most bands.

EDIT: I would definitely like to see more of their old style in the future, now that they have the fame and whatnot.

CodySG

07-23-2008, 02:37 AM

Well, Alexi has said he just didn't want to do the whole "neo-classical" Malmsteen thing anymore...but who knows.

Either way, nothing is really revolutionary anymore, still good though.

That's the thing that's bugged me for a while...when people just say, sounds like everything else, or doesn't sound new it's just the same old thing.

All I have to say is...

If it's not broke....

I mean, you can build a car a thousand times in a thousand ways and it's still a car...and there is still a difference between a good car and a bad car.

Might be the same style of music, done over and over again, but still...there's good music and there's bad music...no matter what.

Just my 2 cents.

Delanoir

07-23-2008, 03:37 AM

I completely agree with Cody, on all counts.

And Magero has a valid point, and I'm sure he knows what I'm about to say and possibly agrees, but it really is just another point of personal preference.

In my own personal tastes, I prefer the more thrashy and heavy metal Bodom. I still love the neo-classical style of their older work, but that's just how it goes for me.

From what Alexi has said, whatever direction they head from here will be unlike either end of the spectrum. As I've mentioned earlier, the band has all stated that they feel like HCDR is the truest expression of what Bodom sounds like. Which is possibly why Blooddrunk sounds most like that album.

To me, I find that to be great news. Because HCDR is a great combination of some of the best aspects of the band. They still have a lot of their old influence in there, but without all the Yngwie-worship. And they have the power of the newer material, without being too straight-forward. To me, it's the most unique sounding and characteristic of their records.

If they can take all of that, and push it even farther, I'll be more than happy.

foxthor_rider2k

07-23-2008, 11:39 PM

HCDR was amazing.

CodySG

07-24-2008, 03:09 AM

HCDR is amazing :D

I'm on a LoG kick right now though...but soon...soon my Bodom shall by back blasting!

matt85210

07-24-2008, 05:42 AM

Camped at Lake Bodom about a week ago. It was Gr1m.

[I Buy Peace]

07-24-2008, 08:01 AM

Awsome. I've camped at lake windamere, but thats not as metal :/

Did you wash your hands in the lake of your blood, just before you died?

doo de doo doo doo, di do di do di do doo, doo de di doo, doo de doo, doo di doo de doo...

Magero

07-24-2008, 08:20 AM

:haha:haha:haha:haha

CodySG

07-24-2008, 08:25 AM

I've camped in the backyard at a friends house one time...

In a super amazing big ass army tent too.

Not so gr1m...but then again, I was listening to pop at that time...

...

Backstreets back, ALRIGHT!

:(

*cuts off balls*

TheUnholy

07-24-2008, 08:38 AM

']Awsome. I've camped at lake windamere, but thats not as metal :/

Did you wash your hands in the lake of your blood, just before you died?

doo de doo doo doo, di do di do di do doo, doo de di doo, doo de doo, doo di doo de doo...

Sometimes a post on a forum has some rare quality that makes it better than other posts.

This was one such post.

Big lulz :D

metallicafan616

07-24-2008, 09:50 AM

[I Buy Peace] = WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :headbang:

scoobydoo_666@h

07-24-2008, 10:18 AM

hey guys just want to say bodom are ****ing awsome live, i saw them at download 08 and they were by far the best band there but there again i already knew that anyway, hope to see them again soon :D

TheUnholy

07-24-2008, 12:04 PM

^ Disagree I'm afraid. Bodom were good, but IMO no way the best there. From what I gather, the performance we saw was a long way from a Bodom classic.

Whereabouts were you, anyway? I was kinda near-ish the front for most of it, just in front of the main central circle pit (except when I ventured in).

Delanoir

07-24-2008, 05:31 PM

Yeah, Bodom did well from what I heard, but the fact that Alexi (and maybe a few others) were quite sick kept it from being as good of a show as it usually is. Understandably.

But wow, Peace, that was amazing.

foxthor_rider2k

07-24-2008, 05:39 PM

Agreed.

And Peace, you are a genius.

And I would like to correct myself... HCDR was not amazing. It IS amazing. :p:

[I Buy Peace]

07-24-2008, 06:31 PM

I love you too COB thread

Seriouslyb you guys are awso e and if you were all hot girls i'd **** you allQ!

TheUnholy

07-24-2008, 08:06 PM

Why must you discriminate against us non-hot, non-girls?

It's discrimination

:(

foxthor_rider2k

07-25-2008, 01:26 AM

']Seriouslyb you guys are awso e and if you were all hot girls i'd **** you allQ!

This is blasphemy!

ShredtoBed

07-25-2008, 07:14 AM

Magero

07-25-2008, 07:48 AM

']I love you too COB thread

Seriouslyb you guys are awso e and if you were all hot girls i'd **** you allQ!
:heart:

King ofKumbucha

07-25-2008, 08:10 AM

So guys, I got in idea! What if Korn and Children of bodom toured toge-....

....nevermind.

So im back on my bodom kick. I think that it would be pure sex if bodom kep their old playing style from like....FTR, with the better sound and production value they have now.

Id hit it.

The only way that will ever happen is if Alexi gets back into neo-classical playing again. It's amazing how fast COB went downhill after FTR. Everything before HCDR was awesome stuff.

ShredtoBed

07-25-2008, 08:17 AM

Eh, I like it all in its own way.

I think blooddrunk did better than AYDY in terms of more leads with some good riffage.

[I Buy Peace]

07-25-2008, 08:34 AM

I have an extreme hangover :(

Witch is why i'm going to watch the chaos ridden years DVD. It's what I always do when I have a bad hangover for some reason

CodySG

07-25-2008, 08:39 AM

I ****ing left mine in Tehaz cause I'm st00pid :(

...

Might just pick up another copy....mine was starting to skip anyway from over play...

the memory

07-25-2008, 08:42 AM

Tehaz?
what? lol, im slow :/

i've got the dvd, it impressed me at first
but then i listened to tokyo warhearts, and its totally ruined it for me

[I Buy Peace]

07-25-2008, 08:53 AM

I'm on my second copy of CRY because i wore the other one out and lent it to people.

Tokyo Warhearts is awsome, only heard it once though I need to buy it. I've seen in Zavvi so next time I goto manchester with money I'll get it

the memory

07-25-2008, 09:41 AM

i really need to buy more cob albums, ive got hate crew death roll, are you dead yet and blooddrunk and the rest ive downloaded :(

i dont like the re-issued cases though, they annoy me!
ahha

whalepudding

07-25-2008, 09:59 AM

']I have an extreme hangover :(

Witch is why i'm going to watch the chaos ridden years DVD. It's what I always do when I have a bad hangover for some reason
IRN ****ING BRU.

Srsly, I had like one mouthful and all my headaches and feeling sick went away.

[I Buy Peace]

07-25-2008, 10:50 AM

Nah irn bru will nock me sick dude. I used to love it but then when i was 13 years old i got completley rat arsed off irn bru WKD's and threw up alot. Now I can't even smell irn bru without it makeing me feel queasey haha

Nah my hangover cure is Bodom and parecetamol. If i've been so bad that I've been sick I have a bath, but I haven't been sick so just a shower :p:

Delanoir

07-25-2008, 04:02 PM

The only way that will ever happen is if Alexi gets back into neo-classical playing again. It's amazing how fast COB went downhill after FTR. Everything before HCDR was awesome stuff.

So says you. I completely disagree.

It all depends on what you like, stylistically. HCDR is, as I've said before, my favorite Bodom album. So in my opinion AYDY is pretty good, but Blooddrunk is far better. To me it gets back to that real Bodom sound.

Tehaz?
what? lol, im slow :/

i've got the dvd, it impressed me at first
but then i listened to tokyo warhearts, and its totally ruined it for me

Texas.

And I like them both, I personally prefer CRY.

I want them to do another one, though. It'd probably be the best yet.

boyan89

07-25-2008, 05:05 PM

one of the best bands ever.

Delanoir

07-25-2008, 07:38 PM

Here is a bit of nostalgia for old Bodom fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKJzIEjPIoM

Watch it in high quality, if you can.

[I Buy Peace]

07-25-2008, 08:29 PM

Awsome, glad to see that there still playing that at guitar clinics.

I know the first few bars of it and thats just couraged me to learn some more

Delanoir

07-25-2008, 09:15 PM

Same with me.

While that is a crappy fan-filmed video,

I honestly prefer their newer (since ESP) tone. Especially since Blooddrunk.

Vittu0666

07-25-2008, 10:41 PM

Here is a bit of nostalgia for old Bodom fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKJzIEjPIoM

Watch it in high quality, if you can.
More nostalgia lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paHqJz0HVAc

Delanoir

07-25-2008, 10:49 PM

More nostalgia lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paHqJz0HVAc

I was trying to find recent videos of them playing old stuff,

but that does bring back memories. :D

I think it's funny how Alexi used an Ibanez RG to record the guitar on Something Wild.

King ofKumbucha

07-25-2008, 11:33 PM

More nostalgia lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paHqJz0HVAc

I miss the days when COB had interesting songs like this... IMO Delanoir :p:

Delanoir

07-25-2008, 11:45 PM

Here's a scan for everyone.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/scan0001-1.jpg

King ofKumbucha

07-25-2008, 11:49 PM

Here's a scan for everyone.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/scan0001-1.jpg

Holy ****... He likes a Slipknot song? I found that pretty surprising.

foxthor_rider2k

07-26-2008, 12:11 AM

I like his shirt :p: And I love when they play that Four Seasons part.

Delanoir

07-26-2008, 03:35 AM

Holy ****... He likes a Slipknot song? I found that pretty surprising.

Same here. Granted, he said that he didn't really like nu-metal, but just liked how aggressive they sounded there.

[I Buy Peace]

07-26-2008, 06:27 AM

Good to know he's a fan of early Sepultura like myself :)

And I still want... ney... need that shirt, and supprisingly not because Alexi has it. Because the slogun is pure genious! Every guitar player should own it

Vittu0666

07-26-2008, 10:57 AM

I want the shirt that Alexi is wearing in the Hate Crew Deathroll booklet. The slogan is "Smoke Crack and Worship Satan."

icaneatcatfood

07-26-2008, 03:54 PM

I want the shirt that Alexi is wearing in the Hate Crew Deathroll booklet. The slogan is "Smoke Crack and Worship Satan."
Isn't that an Impaled Nazarene shirt? Maybe I'm wrong.

the memory

07-26-2008, 10:42 PM

im convinced alexi must have tons of those t-shirts lol

im strugling to believe he used an RG for something wild, what pickups were in it?
if anybody knows

Delanoir

07-26-2008, 11:18 PM

I want the shirt that Alexi is wearing in the Hate Crew Deathroll booklet. The slogan is "Smoke Crack and Worship Satan."

Me too. :haha

The Guitar Players one is good too, though.

im convinced alexi must have tons of those t-shirts lol

im strugling to believe he used an RG for something wild, what pickups were in it?
if anybody knows

Or he just wears the same one (maybe two) very often.

And he really did, I'm not making this up, I hate Ibanez. It was just a crappy low-end RG that they don't even make anymore.

http://www.scythes-of-bodom.com/site.php?go=alexiguitars&lang=en

Here's him playing it (I don't know what for, or where, or when)

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/alexi_ibanez.jpg

And on CRY, you can see an Ibanez headstock behind the couch when they're talking to Alexi.

[I Buy Peace]

07-27-2008, 08:39 AM

Oh my fooking god! That looks wierd!

Also whats with the LTD MMV's? They look like a hybrid between the RV and the Alexi models. Infact they just look like a cheaper version of the RV (LFR, EMG-HZ's but that could be some sort of Alexi connection). Also are they some kind of alexi sig because there on his SOB guitar page.

This doesn't make sence! :eek:

bjovi400

07-27-2008, 07:13 PM

im tryin to learn Every Time I Die, and i know every thing up to the first solo. its not an extremely difficult song as you may know, but before i go into the solos, are there any tips you guys could give me to make learning it easier/quicker?

edit: :p: and i really want that shirt!!! ahaha its soo true too!!! :D

Delanoir

07-27-2008, 09:32 PM

']Oh my fooking god! That looks wierd!

Also whats with the LTD MMV's? They look like a hybrid between the RV and the Alexi models. Infact they just look like a cheaper version of the RV (LFR, EMG-HZ's but that could be some sort of Alexi connection). Also are they some kind of alexi sig because there on his SOB guitar page.

This doesn't make sence! :eek:

Yeah, it's really strange to see Alexi with a Super-Strat

and I think it was just some limited run of LTD's sold in Finland.

im tryin to learn Every Time I Die, and i know every thing up to the first solo. its not an extremely difficult song as you may know, but before i go into the solos, are there any tips you guys could give me to make learning it easier/quicker?

edit: :p: and i really want that shirt!!! ahaha its soo true too!!! :D

Just practice your alternate picking and sweeping. Take it slow, and in small chunks at a time, and work your way up from there.

FRDesign

07-27-2008, 09:43 PM

Hatebreeder is by Far the best bodom album. Follow the reaper is almost as good.

AmonMortem

07-27-2008, 09:43 PM

Out of curiosity, has Bodom ever used the whole step down tuning (DGCFAD)? My main guitar is in that tuning right now, so I'm wondering.

P1ayingW1thF1re

07-27-2008, 09:47 PM

^^I agree 100%

^Follow the Reaper is completely in D, as well as Hatebreeder. Some of Hatecrew Deathroll is, as well.

AmonMortem

07-27-2008, 09:49 PM

Nice. Those are the two albums I have. I prefer Hatebreeder...although "Mask of Sanity" is a great song.

yoozum

07-27-2008, 09:50 PM

Out of curiosity, has Bodom ever used the whole step down tuning (DGCFAD)? My main guitar is in that tuning right now, so I'm wondering.

All of Hatebreeder, FTR, most of HCDR, and any song off of Something Wild if it's live.

P1ayingW1thF1re

07-27-2008, 10:10 PM

Yeah. Something Wild is in C#, HCDR, AYDY?, and Blooddrunk are all a mix of D and Drop C I think.

Delanoir

07-27-2008, 10:18 PM

The way the tunings go is this...

Something Wild: C# Standard
Hatebreeder: D Standard
Follow the Reaper: D Standard
Hate Crew Deathroll: D Standard / Sixpounder and Angels Don't Kill are Drop C
Are You Dead Yet: Drop C
Blooddrunk: Drop C (some songs possibly in D Standard)

P1ayingW1thF1re

07-27-2008, 10:20 PM

Ah you bastard, ya got me again :p:

CodySG

07-28-2008, 05:56 AM

Delanoir

07-28-2008, 06:29 AM

I'm telling you all, sik world.

I have the guitar players shirt and the smoke crack shirt from there.

That said, I have returned...after a wonderful weekend of drunken adventure with my uncle and an very hot 19 year old chick that gets down to her undies after tons of jager.

Yakadyak! Don't talk back!

I just ordered the guitar players shirt from there, haha, Some of the shirts from there are ridiculous.

Hopefully Medium will fit.

Oh, and

Take out the papers and the trash
Or you don't get no spendin' cash
If you don't scrub that kitchen floor
You ain't gonna rock and roll no more
Yakety yak, don't talk back

CodySG

07-28-2008, 07:02 AM

Heck...I'd clean in order to maintain my rock an roll'n....

Delanoir

07-28-2008, 07:05 AM

Either I got the last Guitar Players Finger Better shirt, or I just missed it.

Not sure which, yet.

[I Buy Peace]

07-28-2008, 07:27 AM

I'm telling you all, sik world.

I have the guitar players shirt and the smoke crack shirt from there.

That said, I have returned...after a wonderful weekend of drunken adventure with my uncle and an very hot 19 year old chick that gets down to her undies after tons of jager.

Yakadyak! Don't talk back!

Sounds like and awsome weekend. Jager filled debuchery!

And I think i might order the "guitar players finger better" shirt.

I mean, it is true :p:

the memory

07-28-2008, 08:20 AM

my mum would probably stab me if i bought either of those t-shirts :(

TheUnholy

07-28-2008, 09:33 AM

My mother claims that my "royal flush" (the cards Ace, K, Q, J) belt buckle means I objectify women, because the ace has a nude female outline on it.

So I wear it anyway. Cause that's how metal I am.

Revolution IS my f*cking name.

P1ayingW1thF1re

07-28-2008, 12:43 PM

lol

the memory

07-28-2008, 02:58 PM

Delanoir

07-28-2008, 04:31 PM

TheUnholy

07-28-2008, 07:02 PM

o_O

I think that was probably my most popular post ever :p:

Delanoir

07-28-2008, 07:55 PM

ESP has just re-released the Special Edition (Pink) Alexi 600, and put up a new interview with him on ESPtv.

Here's a link,

http://www.espguitars.com/esptv/alexi_interview_08.html

[I Buy Peace]

07-29-2008, 10:54 AM

I posted the interview a while ago :p:

But yea it's nice to see that the new pink alexi has blackouts, i think the older ones had some kind of HZ's

ReclaimMyReign

07-29-2008, 11:41 AM

King ofKumbucha

07-29-2008, 11:45 AM

I wish Children of Bodom had more songs with guitar and not as much keyboard.
Those two make the band unique, but I want some more heavy/chunky metal riffs.

Want good music?
www.myspace.com/dodgingsusan

lmao. I hope that link was a joke.... His voice holy **** what a fag.

That reminds me, Alexi's voice. Don't like it. I guess it suits the music but I always wondered how COB would be with a dedicated vocalist.