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Magero
12-31-2008, 09:10 AM
MY KITCHEN!
-runs back to save M&Ms-

whalepudding
12-31-2008, 09:30 AM
goddamn this sandwich ****ed up

Delanoir
12-31-2008, 10:11 AM
Here are two old pictures of Bodom/Alexi to distract you guys from your weird homoerotic fantasies... wait, damn it.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/YG100PCAlexi/1005-1-1.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/YG100PCAlexi/10017-1.jpg

Vittu0666
12-31-2008, 10:13 AM
Man, I still wanna get a CS Rhoads with the same specs as Alexi's Wildchild guitar, slap a Wildchild sticker on it, and give it to Alexi.

Adam144
12-31-2008, 10:31 AM
Never been a huge fan of CoB, but I saw them a few weeks ago supporting Slipknot in Sheffield. Was quite a good show, but IMO CoB weren't loud enough :P

I can't remember what songs they played, but the first one seemed to go on for about 10 minutes!

metalisawesome
12-31-2008, 12:24 PM
It can't have been 10 minutes, cause their longest song is only about 5 minutes.
BTW, go COB! :headbang:

Delanoir
12-31-2008, 06:40 PM
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/YG100PCAlexi/1001-1.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/YG100PCAlexi/1009-1.jpg

Plus some really old ones...

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/YG100PCAlexi/10013-1.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/YG100PCAlexi/10014-1.jpg

Bodom Trivium95
12-31-2008, 08:12 PM
that whole no metalcore thing on the metal forum is just retarded.... metalcore is the best part of metal!

dminishedthingy
12-31-2008, 08:12 PM
Yar!

Shinozoku
12-31-2008, 08:16 PM
that whole no metalcore thing on the metal forum is just retarded.... metalcore is the best part of metal!
o.o I love how this is more relevant to the thread's topic than any other post on here.

Delanoir
12-31-2008, 08:24 PM
that whole no metalcore thing on the metal forum is just retarded.... metalcore is the best part of metal!
No. I like metalcore, but still. Just no.

And neither Laiho or Heafy are gods. They are people just like everyone else, and simply excel in musicianship. The last thing either band needs is more rabid fanboys.

SundayMonument
01-01-2009, 12:55 AM
that whole no metalcore thing on the metal forum is just retarded.... metalcore is the best part of metal!

What the hell? :eek:
I would run before everyone grabs their torches and pitchforks

CodySG
01-01-2009, 03:43 AM
I love everyone!!!!

NO NEAD FOR FORKPITCHES!~!!!

HA{PP{Y ****ING NEW YEARS BOPDON!!!!!!!!!!

****ING DRUNK AS HELLL!!!! YEAHAHHHAH!!!!

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!

Magero
01-01-2009, 06:03 AM
No. I like metalcore, but still. Just no.

And neither Laiho or Heafy are gods. They are people just like everyone else, and simply excel in musicianship. The last thing either band needs is more rabid fanboys.
I wouldn't say "excel"....

Alter-Bridge
01-01-2009, 06:07 AM
ex⋅cel
   /ɪkˈsɛl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ik-sel] Show IPA Pronunciation
verb, -celled, -cel⋅ling.
–verb (used without object)
1. to surpass others or be superior in some respect or area; do extremely well.

I would say, yes, excel is a fine word. Considering the huge amount of guitarists, they are superior than a huge bunch.

Magero
01-01-2009, 06:10 AM
Meh.
I'm a fan of Trivium and CoB but they're still two of the sloppiest live bands I've ever seen.
Just my 2c.

Alter-Bridge
01-01-2009, 06:59 AM
Trivium were tight when I saw them.

Magero
01-01-2009, 07:17 AM
You guys always get the better shows though.

Delanoir
01-01-2009, 07:27 AM
Then move to a real country.

Magero
01-01-2009, 07:28 AM
He lives in the state below me, dork. :p:

Delanoir
01-01-2009, 07:48 AM
Then you should both move to a real country.

Magero
01-01-2009, 07:49 AM
We would.
If yours would stop blowing them up.

Delanoir
01-01-2009, 08:03 AM
Problem, the US is not my country.

Magero
01-01-2009, 08:32 AM
...
DAMN YOU LOGIC.
Ok, you win this round.
-shakes fist-

MAKETHEMSUFFER!
01-01-2009, 07:51 PM
^^*redneck accent* HEY! The only peoples blowin' up peoples are dem damn A-rabs!

USA!

*leaves*

Alter-Bridge
01-01-2009, 07:58 PM
Then you should both move to a real country.
Hey!

Watch it. :mad:

Delanoir
01-02-2009, 02:20 AM
Alexi is getting 4 new ESP models this next year. Two ESP's, and an LTD version of each.

http://www.espguitars.com/images/news/09/Alexi.jpg

SynGates7X
01-02-2009, 02:23 AM
ESP's new lineup blows for the most part. I'm very disappointed with them this year.

Alter-Bridge
01-02-2009, 02:38 AM
Why are the LTD models called Alexi-God-Blacky and Scythe?

Shinozoku
01-02-2009, 02:50 AM
Damnit, 20 minutes too late XD Well, 30 as of the writing of this message XD Delanoir, you are awesome :D
ESP's new lineup blows for the most part. I'm very disappointed with them this year.Uhm, new Alexi models, and the MUCH needed additions on a V and EX with Floyds (plus an EC with a Floyd!). Some of the new sigs (Namely Wayne Static and Dan Jacobs) are fuckin sick, and the P-Rails equipped Potbelly is now available in two more colors (that look fantastic). I think the 09 lineup is fine, and I want half of it :haha
Why are the LTD models called Alexi-God-Blacky and Scythe?
Uhm, it's 600, not God. Looks like it says god though...

Delanoir
01-02-2009, 03:23 AM
ESP's new lineup blows for the most part. I'm very disappointed with them this year.
What did you want from them and not get?


Uhm, new Alexi models, and the MUCH needed additions on a V and EX with Floyds (plus an EC with a Floyd!). Some of the new sigs (Namely Wayne Static and Dan Jacobs) are fuckin sick, and the P-Rails equipped Potbelly is now available in two more colors (that look fantastic). I think the 09 lineup is fine, and I want half of it :haha

Uhm, it's 600, not God. Looks like it says god though...
What Shino said. Though I'm not much of a fan of the Static or Jacobs. I prefer the new Alexi's and the Hamilton, in terms of sigs.

Magero
01-02-2009, 03:24 AM
A pointy shaped 8-string.
:p:

Shinozoku
01-02-2009, 03:24 AM
Sounds like he got a lump of coal in his stocking :p:

But I got everything I wanted :D Now if only that V was available as a 7 stringer with a Floyd...

Delanoir
01-02-2009, 03:26 AM
I have a feeling that won't be everything, either, as I heard of at least a few more models than they showed there.

Besides, I doubt they'd give it all away beforehand.

Shinozoku
01-02-2009, 03:39 AM
Of course! I'll bet they've got some REAL gems planned for later release, and are getting a few gems out early with most of the riff raff :D

LAMF413
01-02-2009, 03:57 AM
Alexi Laiho

CodySG
01-02-2009, 05:22 AM
Alexi Laiho

Yes.

That said, the only thing I'm kind of upset about is the lack of higher end non-sig models...

Other than that, most if not all looks pretty damn sexy to me!

SynGates7X
01-02-2009, 09:32 AM
What did you want from them and not get?


What Shino said. Though I'm not much of a fan of the Static or Jacobs. I prefer the new Alexi's and the Hamilton, in terms of sigs.
Some non-signature ESP's. The only actual ESP's are signature guitars. And the only guitars that haven't officially unveiled are the JH Iron Cross and the KH Ouija. I was hoping for a new Vintage Plus, or even some new colors for the Eclipse-II's and Horizon-II's. Not just more sigs.

Delanoir
01-02-2009, 09:42 AM
Some non-signature ESP's. The only actual ESP's are signature guitars. And the only guitars that haven't officially unveiled are the JH Iron Cross and the KH Ouija. I was hoping for a new Vintage Plus, or even some new colors for the Eclipse-II's and Horizon-II's. Not just more sigs.
Why? Because some online list said so?

Maybe that's true, maybe not. We'll know at NAMM.

SynGates7X
01-02-2009, 09:47 AM
Why? Because some online list said so?

Maybe that's true, maybe not. We'll know at NAMM.
What, do you not think they will come out? There have already been a number of pictures on the web of James playing a prototype, and I've been told from someone who had a tour of the ESP custom shop that they were working on the Ouija's. I don't need to wait until NAMM to know that they will be released.

manospan
01-02-2009, 09:48 AM
I love them but i hate alexi being gay. Check some youtube videos and you ll see him kissing with the synth player and biting his fingers. LOL :eek:

Delanoir
01-02-2009, 10:02 AM
I love them but i hate alexi being gay. Check some youtube videos and you ll see him kissing with the synth player and biting his fingers. LOL :eek:
Where'd you hide your time machine? Because this topic is ancient.

Alexi is not gay. People in Scandinavia, and most of Europe, are pretty different about stuff like that than the US. You are homophobic, and immature.

And even if he was gay, it wouldn't change anything.

Magero
01-02-2009, 11:04 AM
2009 is looking like a great year so far.
:rolleyes:

Munchlaxatives
01-02-2009, 01:35 PM
Where are the new ESP models? I haven't seen them.

Oh, and is Alexi's Black V with pink stripes widely available yet?

iamthejoker
01-02-2009, 01:59 PM
Where are the new ESP models? I haven't seen them.

Oh, and is Alexi's Black V with pink stripes widely available yet?

I've seen the LTD model in my "local" guitar shop. And as far as music shops go its not that big.
Dunno about where you are though, I'm based in Zurich.

Shinozoku
01-02-2009, 02:09 PM
Where are the new ESP models? I haven't seen them.

Oh, and is Alexi's Black V with pink stripes widely available yet?
http://www.espguitars.com/news/news.html
Check the company site when they come out with new guitars :p:

a_man
01-02-2009, 02:45 PM
That Alexi Blacky V= :liplick:

Munchlaxatives
01-02-2009, 02:54 PM
Dan Jacobs used to have an awesome signature guitar. Used to.

Seth Shadows
01-02-2009, 06:37 PM
Where'd you hide your time machine? Because this topic is ancient.

Alexi is not gay. People in Scandinavia, and most of Europe, are pretty different about stuff like that than the US. You are homophobic, and immature.

And even if he was gay, it wouldn't change anything.
+ MOTHERFUCKIN' 1

Munchlaxatives
01-02-2009, 06:43 PM
He's not gay, but we all have homoerotic thoughts about him and Roope.

vhdude923
01-03-2009, 04:23 PM
He's not gay he's been married before, he married Kimberly Goss, you know, who he plays with in Synergy.

Aurex
01-03-2009, 08:29 PM
I daresay i may sell my soul to get the alexi-Blacky esp..... |orgasam|

Rtard_GWARRIOR
01-03-2009, 08:49 PM
The thing i like about CoB is their influences somewhat show in their music.
stuff like Judas Preist, Iron Maiden, Twisted Sister, Slayer, Venom, Poison, Motley Crue And Randy Rhoads show up in their playing styles on certain songs\soloing. Ive noticed Alexi does a Zakk Wylde Like solo and Latvala does his own thing. I saw them on the gigantour and they did Journeys Don't stop believing, IT was awesome. this was in Vancouver

LAMF413
01-03-2009, 09:41 PM
The thing i like about CoB is their influences somewhat show in their music.
stuff like Judas Preist, Iron Maiden, Twisted Sister, Slayer, Venom, Poison, Motley Crue And Randy Rhoads show up in their playing styles on certain songs\soloing. Ive noticed Alexi does a Zakk Wylde Like solo and Latvala does his own thing. I saw them on the gigantour and they did Journeys Don't stop believing, IT was awesome. this was in Vancouver


Ya i read somewhere that Alexis fav album was Too Fast For Love by Motley and that they are a influence on him.

Munchlaxatives
01-03-2009, 09:59 PM
He said his favorite CD is Passion and Warfare by Steve Vai


On that note, anyone else find it ironic that a guy like Vai is named Steve?

WILDWAYNE001
01-03-2009, 10:08 PM
The thing i like about CoB is their influences somewhat show in their music.
stuff like Judas Preist, Iron Maiden, Twisted Sister, Slayer, Venom, Poison, Motley Crue And Randy Rhoads show up in their playing styles on certain songs\soloing. Ive noticed Alexi does a Zakk Wylde Like solo and Latvala does his own thing. I saw them on the gigantour and they did Journeys Don't stop believing, IT was awesome. this was in Vancouver

OMG I would love to hear COB cover Don't Stop Believing its one of my all time favs! You are very lucky!

i_hate_emos
01-04-2009, 12:40 AM
Children of Bodom is where i first got into metal and they always been one of my favorites. They got some crazy soloing, sweep picking, tapping etc... ans also some sweet cover songs

Delanoir
01-04-2009, 03:44 AM
Apparently they're releasing a cover album sometime this next year, comprised of all (or at least most) of their past covers, along with a few new ones.

This coming from the band themselves, in recent interviews.

Shabadoo
01-04-2009, 04:44 AM
Apparently they're releasing a cover album sometime this next year, comprised of all (or at least most) of their past covers, along with a few new ones.

This coming from the band themselves, in recent interviews.

That is awesome, I love COB covers ... except the one they did of The Trooper, that seemed more like blasphemy to me.

Delanoir
01-04-2009, 04:51 AM
That is awesome, I love COB covers ... except the one they did of The Trooper, that seemed more like blasphemy to me.
Ugh. CoB never did a cover of The Trooper. That was Sentenced. Let me repeat it to make it clear so I never have to hear it again (even if I will anyway).

Bodom never covered The Trooper. That was Sentenced.

They covered Aces High, a long time ago, for an Iron Maiden Tribute.

Magero
01-04-2009, 04:54 AM
It's ok Max.
I share your pain.

edit: I miss the old Horizon headstock....

edit2: Unrelated, but I just read this quote from Dean Zaliohcaksuhky or whatever his name is, from Dean. When he quit the company in 2008.
"I can no longer attach my name to the reputation, quality and direction of Dean Guitars or its current objectives"
Buuuuuurn.

Alter-Bridge
01-04-2009, 05:36 AM
It's ok Max.
I share your pain.

edit: I miss the old Horizon headstock....

edit2: Unrelated, but I just read this quote from Dean Zaliohcaksuhky or whatever his name is, from Dean. When he quit the company in 2008.
"I can no longer attach my name to the reputation, quality and direction of Dean Guitars or its current objectives"
Buuuuuurn.
He actually meant to say

"I can no longer watch them put Dime's name on every damn guitar".

Delanoir
01-04-2009, 06:10 AM
Yeah, I loved when he (Zelinsky) said that. It made me happy on the warm insides.

I do have to say though, I find two things hilarious about his upcoming new guitar line.

1) The brand is called.... DBZ.

2) The ones revealed thus far look hideous. Laughably hideous. At least the "original" shapes. They look like a designer from BC Rich took a carving knife to a warehouse full of Deans. And then let a panel of children with ADHD decide on the graphic jobs.

http://www.dbzguitars.com/

Though, it certainly says something about your company when your founder, and namesake, leaves. Twice.

Bodom.

Magero
01-04-2009, 06:20 AM
I can imagine the head of Dean guitars sitting in his board room, rocking back and forth.
"The masters has lefts us again precious..."

edit: Hooooleeeey shiiit. Those DBZ guitars are gonna cost a fortune.

Delanoir
01-04-2009, 06:42 AM
Was I the only one who, upon going onto the site, had only one though supercede all others?






Dragon! Dragon! Rock the Dragon!
Dragon Ball Z!

Magero
01-04-2009, 06:54 AM
Nah.
But I did reckon that some of those designs look like prototypes for Frieza's new armour....

Delanoir
01-04-2009, 07:28 AM
Haha, very true.

Anyway, here are some scans from the new issue of Terrorizer that Bodom was in.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/T1-1.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/T2-1.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/T3-1.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/T4-1.jpg

I'll post a transcription of the interview, later.

a_man
01-04-2009, 07:53 AM
I saw bowling balls and I was like "Oh crap" not again :p:

Vittu0666
01-04-2009, 08:57 AM
L@wlz! Deed j00 g4iz n0ez th4t B0htum cuv3red da f1n4l c0untdown?!

Shinozoku
01-04-2009, 12:53 PM
Was I the only one who, upon going onto the site, had only one though supercede all others?






Dragon! Dragon! Rock the Dragon!
Dragon Ball Z!
I COULD copy and paste that 30 times, but I won't :p: I thought it too, by the way. And yeah, sadly their stuff is gruesome =/ Very interesting work with the beveling though. I kinda like the SS shapes though, especially teh one that looks like an Ibby JS.
edit: Hooooleeeey shiiit. Those DBZ guitars are gonna cost a fortune. Maybe they'll cost... OVER $9000!!!!!!!!!

:haha @ bowling balls

Munchlaxatives
01-04-2009, 01:02 PM
Is it me or do those DBZ guitars look like they've been hitting the gym hard?

dminishedthingy
01-04-2009, 01:04 PM
Is it me or do those DBZ guitars look like they've been hitting the gym hard?
:haha that's exactly what I was thinking when I saw that V in the beginning.

Shinozoku
01-04-2009, 01:14 PM
:haha that's exactly what I was thinking when I saw that V in the beginning.
I thought something similar when i saw the fvcking ripped out ML.

Shabadoo
01-04-2009, 04:49 PM
Ugh. CoB never did a cover of The Trooper. That was Sentenced. Let me repeat it to make it clear so I never have to hear it again (even if I will anyway).

Bodom never covered The Trooper. That was Sentenced.

They covered Aces High, a long time ago, for an Iron Maiden Tribute.

Settle down man, that at least explains why I hate that cover.

Bodomized
01-04-2009, 06:04 PM
Settle down man, that at least explains why I hate that cover.
You have no idea how much this gets brought up, do you?

CodySG
01-04-2009, 08:02 PM
I lawled at over $9000 :haha

That said, I kind of like some of the Dragon BallZ guitars... beveling looks REALLY strange in pictures and it's hard to capture, I'm sure it looks more smooth in real life.

Don't know about the price tag though...but hey, if they play like liquid gold...that V is pretty sexy :)

Shabadoo
01-04-2009, 09:23 PM
You have no idea how much this gets brought up, do you?

Obviously not, last page of this thread is the only page of it I have ever read.

Shinozoku
01-04-2009, 11:06 PM
Obviously not, last page of this thread is the only page of it I have ever read.
It comes up once or twice a month, and usually the person who thinks it's Bodom is a complete noob. So yeah...

Cody: Yeah, the pointier one does, but I don't like the "traditional" one... I'm a wh0re for Vs :peace:

EDIT: Also, a lot of them still look like concept art from Photoshop or something :p: Aaaand, I must say, the effect the bevels have on the flame maple of the ML one is fascinating...

Delanoir
01-06-2009, 07:50 AM
Thought this was a cool pic.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/1/l_5cf6d82bdef94c749453d46076385e0c.jpg

And people say Alexi dresses lame nowadays...

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/AleksiAlexi/34fbfhw-1.jpg

spaceace12342
01-06-2009, 01:04 PM
what a cool guy

vhdude923
01-06-2009, 07:35 PM
Yeah the first pic is pretty cool. Ok I've been listening through all the Bodom I have on my Ipod and I have to say I think Kissing the Shadows is the best song on Follow the Reaper. I love that song so much.

Alter-Bridge
01-06-2009, 07:51 PM
WHAT?! His shirt is tucked in!!

Shinozoku
01-06-2009, 07:52 PM
WHAT?! His shirt is tucked in!!
And he's not wearing a chain/studded/boolet (I spell it boolet ever since I heard Max Cavalera say it) belt!

Munchlaxatives
01-06-2009, 08:01 PM
I bet Alexi Laiho does a mean "Don't Stop Believing"

TheMantipede
01-06-2009, 08:04 PM
I wanna see Bodom live again...

I was awesome when I saw them last time, before they came out they played "America Fuck Yeah" over the speaker system and the whole crowd was shouting along to it.

eazy-c
01-06-2009, 08:23 PM
I bet Alexi Laiho does a mean "Don't Stop Believing"

Don't Stop Believing was amazing.

woodenbandman
01-06-2009, 08:26 PM
I like pretty much all Bodom, my current favorite of theirs is probably either If You Want Peace, Prepare For War, or Bodom Beach Terror, though Lake Bodom and Are You Dead Yet? are great classics too.

Vittu0666
01-06-2009, 08:29 PM
I popped in Hatebreeder today. Felt like slipping on an old glove. :)

vhdude923
01-07-2009, 01:42 AM
I like pretty much all Bodom, my current favorite of theirs is probably either If You Want Peace, Prepare For War, or Bodom Beach Terror, though Lake Bodom and Are You Dead Yet? are great classics too.
Yeah I absolutely love the Hate Crew Deathroll album, and Are You Dead Yet? is an amazing song. But my favorite is probably kissing the shadows

metal Lover
01-07-2009, 01:44 AM
Marko Laiho's way cooler.

Delanoir
01-07-2009, 03:01 AM
Marko Laiho's way cooler.
Yes, because a one-man black metal band is so comparable to CoB. :rolleyes:

Ironically, Alexi's name is actually Markku Uula Aleksi Laiho.

metal Lover
01-07-2009, 03:22 AM
Yes, because a one-man black metal band is so comparable to CoB. :rolleyes:

Ironically, Alexi's name is actually Markku Uula Aleksi Laiho.
Not one man. Well, their black metal material isn't. I'm not comparing their music, I'm just saying that Marko's cooler.

ZylitoL
01-07-2009, 03:30 AM
Delanoir: To be completely fair, he's just saying his opinion for what it's worth. I don't see why you have to get so pissy every time someone says something remotely negative about Laiho.

EDIT
Anyway, anyone hate the production on Hatebreeder? It's kind of like a modernized version of Forbidden's 80s stuff (I've been ranting about that in the thrash thread). Bass and double kick drums are completely scooped out. I can hear Jaska working his feet, but I don't feel them hitting my ears, ya know?

Delanoir
01-07-2009, 03:51 AM
How the hell was I being pissy? And for that matter, when have I ever been? I honestly don't care. People can rag on him or hate him all they want, it really doesn't matter to me.

As for the production on Hatebreeder, I hate it too. For pretty much the same reasons you said, actually. I'm also not too fond of the guitar tone, personally.

And as for Marko, I was just going by Beherit. What makes him cooler, to you? Just wondering.

metal Lover
01-07-2009, 03:56 AM
How the hell was I being pissy? And for that matter, when have I ever been? I honestly don't care. People can rag on him or hate him all they want, it really doesn't matter to me.

As for the production on Hatebreeder, I hate it too. For pretty much the same reasons you said, actually. I'm also not too fond of the guitar tone, personally.

And as for Marko, I was just going by Beherit. What makes him cooler, to you? Just wondering.

I was just fucking with you guys. Marko's cooler because he's NUCLEAR HOLOCAUSTO OF BLOODY VENGEANCE.

Delanoir
01-07-2009, 04:12 AM
:haha

Fair enough. I wasn't offended at all, and I like Marko myself, too.

ZylitoL
01-07-2009, 04:52 AM
^We've had this discussion a few months back I recall. It got nowhere. Let's just drop it.

FTR has a weird production as well; the treble got elevated to the sky. The opening keyboard chords to Hate Me! kill my ears with headphones on. But I'd rather have that than HB's stupid production though.

As far as guitar tone goes, Alexi's average at best for me. Both in terms of production and tonewise, HCDR is my favorite. His rhythm tone is great on that album.

Delanoir
01-07-2009, 05:30 AM
Yeah, FTR is too treble-y. I thought the keys were too cheesy-sounding to me, too low-bit or something.

I think the best their tone has been is their live setup since BD, which sounds better than the album, personally. There's something about the mastering on the album that is just too flat to me. Perhaps a poor choice of words, but it just isn't quite right.

spaceace12342
01-07-2009, 09:58 AM
I don't see how its possible to hate C.O.B like people do on this site.

people flipped **** when i said Blooddrunk was on of the best albums of 2008.

Magero
01-07-2009, 10:36 AM
Because it sucks.

spaceace12342
01-07-2009, 12:25 PM
That doesnt mean they can sit around and bash alexi and say he's a fag.

eazy-c
01-07-2009, 12:30 PM
No one said it does.

spaceace12342
01-07-2009, 12:57 PM
im just sayin thats what they did.

Magero
01-07-2009, 01:02 PM
It's called an opinion.
Learn what it is and then come back.
Also "you're just jealous" is not a legitimate comeback.

spaceace12342
01-07-2009, 02:08 PM
well im not ****in stupid, so i know what an opinion is. and i was joking when i said ''your just jealous'' in that other thread. I'm not six.

I was just trying to bring CoB into the conversation.

lord_abyssium
01-07-2009, 02:11 PM
^We've had this discussion a few months back I recall. It got nowhere. Let's just drop it.

FTR has a weird production as well; the treble got elevated to the sky. The opening keyboard chords to Hate Me! kill my ears with headphones on. But I'd rather have that than HB's stupid production though.

As far as guitar tone goes, Alexi's average at best for me. Both in terms of production and tonewise, HCDR is my favorite. His rhythm tone is great on that album.

maybe im part of the minority, but i love the production on hatebreeder !

every other cob album sounds way to overproduced to me

spaceace12342
01-07-2009, 02:13 PM
maybe im part of the minority, but i love the production on hatebreeder !

every other cob album sounds way to overproduced to me

i dont have all the songs from that album, but the ones i do have are amazing. i love downfall. It's great live too.

Reds3031
01-07-2009, 02:19 PM
maybe im part of the minority, but i love the production on hatebreeder !

every other cob album sounds way to overproduced to me

Hatebreeder is the one that I feel is overproduced.

:shrug:

lord_abyssium
01-07-2009, 02:23 PM
Hatebreeder is the one that I feel is overproduced.

:shrug:

either way, i like it ;)

a_man
01-07-2009, 02:25 PM
Hatebreeder is the one that I feel is overproduced.

:shrug:

QFT, well in my opinion. I think Alexi shares the same view. I like the production on HCDR ,and the guitar tone on Blooddrunk, but it clips quite badly.

How long has Alexi and Roope been using EMG H2's? I thought they used EMG actives, Blackouts or HZ H4's in production models?

CodySG
01-07-2009, 07:12 PM
I like HB, I've always thought the tones on HB and FTR sounded kind of odd...almost like it was too mushed together, I never thought one instrument or vocal or particular tone/sound had enough room to breath and then just naturally fill in.

Also, with BD I think it was an awesome CD for CoB's disc. but I don't think it's best album of '08...

Reason why is simple.

They really didn't do anything that hasn't already been done a million times, so no real breakthrough musically.

The tone was decent enough, but no where near any kind of master tone I've heard before.

Not much deep lyrical work.

Not any amazingly new, difficult, unheard of, or really epic instrument work.

Basically, nothing that really set it apart from any other album that's come out besides the fact that it was CoB.

Last, it wasn't a CD that really solidified what the band is all about. I know that bands change their sounds and stuff, but most big bands have that ONE cd that is just, all out, 100 percent what you think of when you think about that band. Every song is a good one, and it just sets in stone what the bands all about.

Now I love Blooddrunk, I really do! I just don't think it was any kind of master piece for reasons stated.

kataklysmkid91
01-07-2009, 07:21 PM
How can anyone not like Bodom?
Theyre so original! They kick so much ass!


Are you dead yet is the best album ever done. period.

www.myspace.com/suicidalsister

vhdude923
01-07-2009, 07:24 PM
Yeah I agree like on blooddrunk during the first notes of the song I always think there's something wrong with the tone on this it sounds like tinny like with too much treble and no mid or bass

Delanoir
01-07-2009, 07:29 PM
I agree with Cody, for the most part. I'm really interested to see if the next album breaks any sort of mold, or just takes it the CC/Slayer-route in gunning down the same path, for better or worse. Personally, I would definitely prefer the former.

That said, HCDR would have to be the closest thing to that "100%" type of album, where it solidified what Bodom sounds like, and is most true to their signature sound. At least, that's how Alexi feels about it, and possibly BD. AYDY is apparently the album felt to be the weakest (stated by Laiho). So, considering that, BD -though not groundbreaking- is a step in right direction.

Hopefully, with whatever comes next, it'll be a great surprise.


How long has Alexi and Roope been using EMG H2's? I thought they used EMG actives, Blackouts or HZ H4's in production models?
Since switching to ESP. Though he did use SD Blackouts (supposedly) on BD, before switching back to EMG's soon afterward. He has since been using prototype models of a signature EMG pickup.

CodySG
01-07-2009, 07:40 PM
For real...a sig pup?

*sniff sniff*

Smell another Zakky boy :(

I agree on HCDR, I think the first three are amazing, but Bodom changes too much and too often lol, seems like everytime Alexi is asked his favorite/least favorite it's always different.

I often wonder what CoB would sound like if they took the earlier stuff and kept on that path, they probably would have mastered it and been a truely amazing epic band.

Oh well :(

Either way, the difference is almost so much, it's basically two different bands lol. I know many a few that have been fooled listening to SW or HB compared to AYDY or BD and thinking it was two different bands :haha

MAKETHEMSUFFER!
01-07-2009, 07:57 PM
How can anyone not like Bodom?
Theyre so original! They kick so much ass!


Are you dead yet is the best album ever done. period.

www.myspace.com/suicidalsister
No. And your band sucks.

Vittu0666
01-07-2009, 08:05 PM
How can anyone not like Bodom?
Theyre so original! They kick so much ass!


Are you dead yet is the best album ever done. period.

www.myspace.com/suicidalsister
I'm a big Bodom fan, and I definitely beg to differ.

dminishedthingy
01-07-2009, 08:07 PM
Are You Dead Yet?>>>>>The rest of their discography :)
Controvery...

the memory
01-07-2009, 08:09 PM
I'm a big Bodom fan, and I definitely beg to differ.
+1'd

vhdude923
01-07-2009, 08:12 PM
Are You Dead Yet? is not their best album. Some of my favorite songs come from that album but that is not their best. Personally I think Hate Crew Deathroll is their best album, and I bet alot of people agree with me on that.

Delanoir
01-07-2009, 08:24 PM
For real...a sig pup?

*sniff sniff*

Smell another Zakky boy :(

I agree on HCDR, I think the first three are amazing, but Bodom changes too much and too often lol, seems like everytime Alexi is asked his favorite/least favorite it's always different.

I often wonder what CoB would sound like if they took the earlier stuff and kept on that path, they probably would have mastered it and been a truely amazing epic band.

Oh well :(

Either way, the difference is almost so much, it's basically two different bands lol. I know many a few that have been fooled listening to SW or HB compared to AYDY or BD and thinking it was two different bands :haha

What about Zakk? Wylde? He just uses a standard 85/81 combo.

And I actually disagree with you there. While I like bands who pull it off well, like my examples of CC and Slayer, it's always more boring to me if a band doesn't ever really branch out to some degree. If you don't explore different things and take risks, then you'll never really be the absolute best you can.

the memory
01-07-2009, 08:26 PM
What about Zakk? Wylde? He just uses a standard 85/81 combo.


you can buy a zakk wylde signature set though...

Delanoir
01-07-2009, 08:32 PM
Yeah, and it's just an 85 and an 81.

This would supposedly be an actual custom pickup.

vhdude923
01-07-2009, 08:34 PM
Yeah and Zakk's sig set isn't any different from just combining an 81 with and 85, and that's true with his camo set except they have different covers on them.

the memory
01-07-2009, 08:37 PM
Yeah, and it's just an 85 and an 81.

This would supposedly be an actual custom pickup.
sounds promising!

vhdude923
01-07-2009, 08:39 PM
Yeah an actual pickup that's custom built for him would be pretty awesome.

CodySG
01-08-2009, 02:57 AM
I actually was just meaning another sig for Alexi.

Poking fun at the fact that you can basically buy Zakk Wylde sig Q-Tips.

And I think branching is fine and cool...but at the same time I think it's better to intagrate*sp?* different sounds and influences into what you are already doing, rather than just do a complete 180 and chance to something totally different.

You never have time to be the best you can be because you're doing stuff that has no hint of what you were doing.

Delanoir
01-08-2009, 09:10 AM
I actually was just meaning another sig for Alexi.

Poking fun at the fact that you can basically buy Zakk Wylde sig Q-Tips.

And I think branching is fine and cool...but at the same time I think it's better to intagrate*sp?* different sounds and influences into what you are already doing, rather than just do a complete 180 and chance to something totally different.

You never have time to be the best you can be because you're doing stuff that has no hint of what you were doing.
Ah, okay, haha. Well at this point he only has the guitars, so I don't think there's any need to be worried.

And that's a fairly true statement, however, I absolutely do not think you could in any way call what Bodom did a complete 180. Or at the very least, such a change that there's no hint of what they used to do. I mean, the newer albums are different, but they're definitely not anywhere near that much so.

Delanoir
01-08-2009, 09:22 AM
According to Janne, Alexi's broken his finger, and won't be able to play at NAMM next week.

spaceace12342
01-08-2009, 09:31 AM
Poking fun at the fact that you can basically buy Zakk Wylde sig Q-Tips.



lol, sounds like something KISS would actually make.

vhdude923
01-08-2009, 09:44 AM
According to Janne, Alexi's broken his finger, and won't be able to play at NAMM next week.
well damn that sucks I wanted to see him play. Not like I was going anyway but that just sucks.

Pernell
01-08-2009, 10:36 AM
well damn that sucks I wanted to see him play. Not like I was going anyway but that just sucks.

yeah true that. Ive always wanted to check out a Bodom show

the memory
01-08-2009, 11:40 AM
According to Janne, Alexi's broken his finger, and won't be able to play at NAMM next week.
failed :(

CodySG
01-08-2009, 08:02 PM
I swear...I'm shocked Bodom has been going so long and that Alexi hasn't just snapped his neck or something :haha

Boy gets hurt more often than anyone else I've seen lol!

And no, I don't call it a complete 180, but I think the end result is.

I.E. take SW and compare it to BD...and...well...

Still, I think the natural change over HCDR ---> AYDY ---> BD is a pretty good one.

TheMantipede
01-08-2009, 08:06 PM
Racer X is playing at NAMM this year which sounds awesome...

Too bad I'm probably never gonna get a chance to go. :(

eazy-c
01-08-2009, 08:27 PM
Is Juan playing with them?

TheMantipede
01-08-2009, 08:33 PM
No clue, it just says on their myspace they'll be doing a private show for Ibanez.

Too bad I only know a guy who knows a guy at Peavey.

Delanoir
01-09-2009, 12:51 AM
I swear...I'm shocked Bodom has been going so long and that Alexi hasn't just snapped his neck or something :haha

Boy gets hurt more often than anyone else I've seen lol!

And no, I don't call it a complete 180, but I think the end result is.

I.E. take SW and compare it to BD...and...well...

Still, I think the natural change over HCDR ---> AYDY ---> BD is a pretty good one.
I know, right?

And I think you'd be hard pressed to find any (good) band that hasn't changed that much in 15 (11 since SW) years. Or even the first 6 (between SW and HCDR). Especially when they started out as teenagers. I mean hell, look at the Inearthed demos compared to early Bodom. Now that's a change.

But I do agree that HCDR to BD has been a smoother transition than in the past. Though I sometimes feel AYDY is the most odd one out (in terms of style), along with SW.

CodySG
01-09-2009, 01:00 AM
True, true.

And I', 100% with you threre.

I think that AYDY was almost like a teenager lashing out at parents...not reallyt sure whyt...juyst wanted something different.

I still love it though :)

OU is losing/lost :(

Sad facve :sad:

Delanoir
01-09-2009, 04:52 AM
Just wanted to say that the new Alexi "Blacky" guitar is also coming in the actual RV (the ESP RR) shape, and not just the (lame) USA one.

According to ESP: "Alexi Laiho 'Blacky' STD New Alexi RV model. Metallic Black Satin finish with Black Pinstripes, Black Pearl inlays and binding"

Portuguese_boy
01-09-2009, 05:07 AM
Just wanted to say that the new Alexi "Blacky" guitar is also coming in the actual RV (the ESP RR) shape, and not just the (lame) USA one.

According to ESP: "Alexi Laiho 'Blacky' STD New Alexi RV model. Metallic Black Satin finish with Black Pinstripes, Black Pearl inlays and binding"

They look awesome, the scythe doesn't look that bad too.

Delanoir
01-09-2009, 05:17 AM
Yeah, the scythe is cool too, just nothing new. It's exactly like his original white RV, just with the USA shape.

I want the Blacky RV though. But I'll have to wait and see actual pictures of it.

Portuguese_boy
01-09-2009, 05:25 AM
Yeah, the scythe is cool too, just nothing new. It's exactly like his original white RV, just with the USA shape.

I want the Blacky RV though. But I'll have to wait and see actual pictures of it.

http://www.espguitars.com/news/news.html ?

the memory
01-09-2009, 05:31 AM
Racer X is playing at NAMM this year which sounds awesome...

Too bad I'm probably never gonna get a chance to go. :(
WHAT!?!?!?!?

for realz?

kenan6346
01-09-2009, 08:41 AM
I know, right?

And I think you'd be hard pressed to find any (good) band that hasn't changed that much in 15 (11 since SW) years. Or even the first 6 (between SW and HCDR). Especially when they started out as teenagers. I mean hell, look at the Inearthed demos compared to early Bodom. Now that's a change.

But I do agree that HCDR to BD has been a smoother transition than in the past. Though I sometimes feel AYDY is the most odd one out (in terms of style), along with SW.

One of the biggest changes I noticed was that they changed from standard tuning to C# standard for Something Wild, then D and Drop C for the rest. IMO, they should have stuck with E; they sounded pretty heavy in their early stuff, I dunno why they changed.

Delanoir
01-09-2009, 09:32 AM
http://www.espguitars.com/news/news.html ?
I mean actual photographs though, not photoshopped displays.

Shinozoku
01-09-2009, 09:45 AM
How long has Alexi and Roope been using EMG H2's? I thought they used EMG actives, Blackouts or HZ H4's in production models?
Alexi used H4 starting out, Roope used Duncan Invader or EMG 81 (he switched).
Then they started using the H2 with the MM04 preamp booster (copy of Jackson's booster).
Now Alexi is developing a pickup with EMG, as Max said.
:peace:
Just wanted to say that the new Alexi "Blacky" guitar is also coming in the actual RV (the ESP RR) shape, and not just the (lame) USA one.

According to ESP: "Alexi Laiho 'Blacky' STD New Alexi RV model. Metallic Black Satin finish with Black Pinstripes, Black Pearl inlays and binding"
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of the biggest changes I noticed was that they changed from standard tuning to C# standard for Something Wild, then D and Drop C for the rest. IMO, they should have stuck with E; they sounded pretty heavy in their early stuff, I dunno why they changed.
I liked C# and D :(

Okay guys, on the subject of the RV shape... My girlfriend is always saying my arrowhead is a tiny guitar LOL! I think it's funny xD

Delanoir
01-09-2009, 10:32 AM
There are songs on BD in D. Just saying.

Shinozoku
01-09-2009, 10:45 AM
There are songs on BD in D. Just saying.
True... probably my favorites LOL! I love Smile Pretty For The Devil, Tie My Rope (I know it's in drop C though :(), Lobodomy... GAH! I love the whole album :sad:

But I do miss his FTR tone. It was so perfect :(

CodySG
01-09-2009, 05:59 PM
RV/SV shapes are bigger than Jackson RR's...wonder what she'd say if she saw those O.o...

That black RV sounds cool...link to where you found this info out?

Delanoir
01-09-2009, 08:18 PM
RV/SV shapes are bigger than Jackson RR's...wonder what she'd say if she saw those O.o...

That black RV sounds cool...link to where you found this info out?
I've always wondered how much bigger they were, as I've never had them side by side.

and it's from the order details bMusic australia recieved from ESP. They'll be officially released at MusikMesse in Germany in March. Which I think Alexi (and maybe others, like Roope again) will play at, like last year.

vhdude923
01-10-2009, 12:18 AM
I prefer the RV/SV shape over the RR shape because they have offset cutaways which i think is more comfortable to play.

Shinozoku
01-10-2009, 01:34 AM
^ It is, and that is why Jackson should just trust their true customers to stick to them and let ESP sell those shapes over here :D

vhdude923
01-10-2009, 02:27 AM
^exactly the shape isn't even the same it's a differnet size and design anyway

spaceace12342
01-12-2009, 12:34 PM
esp and jackson are both amazing.

i just wish fender wouldnt have bought jackson, because even though they're good, they're not as good as they used to be, and it's virtually impossible for small music shops to carry them now because fender is a bitch to deal with.

Vittu0666
01-12-2009, 12:57 PM
esp and jackson are both amazing.

i just wish fender wouldnt have bought jackson, because even though they're good, they're not as good as they used to be, and it's virtually impossible for small music shops to carry them now because fender is a bitch to deal with.
Not true at all. Since Fender has owned Jackson, Jackson's Custom Shop has gone up considerably. Their QC is MUCH higher now. You see less **** ups coming from the Custom Shop. If anything, it's usually the paint job that gets messed up. Not only that, but the price of Jackson's have gone down considerably. If I remember right, weren't RR3's originally around $700? They're about $450 now. I've said it once, and I'll say it again: The only era of Jackson where anyone can brag about having a guitar from always has been San Dimas.

Anyways, yes, I do believe the SV/RV's are bigger than RR's. I don't get that cutaway though. Do my eyes deceive me, or do RV/SV's cut away at the top around the 15-17th fret area? My Rhoads cuts away from both top and bottom a little after the 19th.

Also, I got back into listening to Sinergy. Personally, I think the melodies and harmonies that Alexi wrote with Sinergy are the best he's written.

the memory
01-12-2009, 01:23 PM
Also, I got back into listening to Sinergy. Personally, I think the melodies and harmonies that Alexi wrote with Sinergy are the best he's written.
i'll second that!


i was just listening to sinergy for the first time in AGES about 20 mins ago!

Vittu0666
01-12-2009, 01:31 PM
i'll second that!


i was just listening to sinergy for the first time in AGES about 20 mins ago!
Hell yeah! I was too! Please tell me you were listening to Suicide by My Side as well! Bah, I still need to get their other album. I have both Suicide By My Side and Beware the Heavens. I can never remember the third. It has one of my favorite songs by them: Laid to Rest.

EDIT: To Hell and Back, that's what it's called.

the memory
01-12-2009, 02:05 PM
i had i spit on your grave and return to the fourth world on

both epic songs
i love venemous vixens too

Delanoir
01-12-2009, 02:40 PM
Not true at all. Since Fender has owned Jackson, Jackson's Custom Shop has gone up considerably. Their QC is MUCH higher now. You see less **** ups coming from the Custom Shop. If anything, it's usually the paint job that gets messed up. Not only that, but the price of Jackson's have gone down considerably. If I remember right, weren't RR3's originally around $700? They're about $450 now. I've said it once, and I'll say it again: The only era of Jackson where anyone can brag about having a guitar from always has been San Dimas.

Anyways, yes, I do believe the SV/RV's are bigger than RR's. I don't get that cutaway though. Do my eyes deceive me, or do RV/SV's cut away at the top around the 15-17th fret area? My Rhoads cuts away from both top and bottom a little after the 19th.

Also, I got back into listening to Sinergy. Personally, I think the melodies and harmonies that Alexi wrote with Sinergy are the best he's written.
You're completely right about the Jackson issue, and with the San Dimas era.

And with the RV/SV, it starts on the top at the 17th, and the cutaway goes from the 19th to the 21st, on the OLD ones. The new ones, though, have a deeper cutaway from 21 to 23 (like on Alexi's).

As far as Sinergy goes, I'm definitely beginning to feel the same way. Though I'm not sure how much Roope and/or Jesper had a hand in that as well. Nevertheless, I'm sure it's still true to some significant degree.

What I thought was pretty interesting is that in a recent interview, well, I'll just copy/paste it here.

Zarok: I would say that your first three albums sound pretty different compared to your last three albums. Would you say that Blooddrunk now closes a chapter that was opened with Hate Crew Deathroll?

Alexi: Well, I don't see the whole thing in chapters. After this album we can just come up with something else and we can progress to somewhere else.



Zarok: Were you ever thinking of adding some other elements into Children Of Bodom's sound, like acoustic guitars for example?

Alexi: Well, let me think about that when I write the songs but probably not.

Zarok: You already did that during Inearthed days.

Alexi: Yeah, that was like 15 years ago and I think it sounded like ****. (laughs)

Zarok: What do you think about instrumental songs and could you imagine to have one on a Children Of Bodom album?

Alexi: Well, I could make one but this doesn't fit on a Children Of Bodom album, that's what I think.

Zarok: Would you still be able to write 6 minutes songs like "In The Shadows" or "The Nail" for example, with riffs and melodies like you used on Something Wild?

Alexi: Yeah, of course! I could do it but I just don't want to. If somebody comes up to me challenging me if I should actually write one of such songs and I could write one for him right here and right now. I like songs which are catchy and that's it.

the memory
01-12-2009, 03:22 PM
well jesper rights a lot of melodies with in flames, so i presume he wrote his fair share in early sinergy stuff

Vittu0666
01-12-2009, 08:11 PM
You're completely right about the Jackson issue, and with the San Dimas era.

And with the RV/SV, it starts on the top at the 17th, and the cutaway goes from the 19th to the 21st, on the OLD ones. The new ones, though, have a deeper cutaway from 21 to 23 (like on Alexi's).

As far as Sinergy goes, I'm definitely beginning to feel the same way. Though I'm not sure how much Roope and/or Jesper had a hand in that as well. Nevertheless, I'm sure it's still true to some significant degree.

What I thought was pretty interesting is that in a recent interview, well, I'll just copy/paste it here.
Ah. See, I knew that some of them. I just checked the Alexi Blacky, and you're right, it does cut away at the top closer. Glad they fixed that. The Blacky actually looks pretty sick. If they made an SV version of it, I'd be a little tempted.

And yes, that interview was pretty interesting.

Regarding Sinergy, Jesper was only on the first album. Anyone hear any news about the new album Sins of the Past? There was a rumor that it was deleted accidentally.

eazy-c
01-12-2009, 08:25 PM
:haha

Shinozoku
01-12-2009, 09:45 PM
:haha
Good point.

And yeah, my AL's cutaway goes to about the 21st fret. I'd prefer the newer one that comes up to the 23rd, though. when I get the bridge rerouted, I might just alter that too :D (I think I might refinish it with the Scythe paint scheme, white with black stripes. Then replace all the hardware with chrome/nickel, and maybe get one of those brass trem blocks for extra sustain).

Vittu0666
01-12-2009, 09:58 PM
Good point.

And yeah, my AL's cutaway goes to about the 21st fret. I'd prefer the newer one that comes up to the 23rd, though. when I get the bridge rerouted, I might just alter that too :D (I think I might refinish it with the Scythe paint scheme, white with black stripes. Then replace all the hardware with chrome/nickel, and maybe get one of those brass trem blocks for extra sustain).
Be sure to post pics when you get it all done! I think I'm going to work extra hours and try to get one of those Jackson Stars TN02. 24 fret Rhoads, HERE I COME.

Shinozoku
01-12-2009, 10:52 PM
It'll be forever before I can get the work done, sadly :( And I have no money (I plan on putting a neck SC in it too while I'm carving things up :P)

CodySG
01-12-2009, 11:09 PM
Should put another string on top of there while you're at it...

<.<

>.>

What...

>.<

Just saying......

Delanoir
01-12-2009, 11:53 PM
Honestly Shino, with all those changes, you might as well get a whole new guitar.

The bridge/intonation is worth fixing though. But I'd save everything else for a new guitar, or it might add up to more money (and effort) than its worth.

Shinozoku
01-13-2009, 01:30 AM
Honestly Shino, with all those changes, you might as well get a whole new guitar.

The bridge/intonation is worth fixing though. But I'd save everything else for a new guitar, or it might add up to more money (and effort) than its worth.
I know :sad: But I want me a neck pickup... I've grown tired of just having the bridge to work with. And if at all possible, I'm gonna try and get the routing done for free (electronics wiring I know I can get done for free), and I could do the painting myself (I DID used to paint a lot, and was DAMN good).

I could always just mod the **** outta my Kramer :p: I wanna paint it white, install a push/pull to activate the middle pickup (having only the bridge and neck wired to a 3-way blade switch) and put new hardware and pickups in it.

spaceace12342
01-13-2009, 10:15 AM
Are Kramers good?

I thought about getting one in the past, but theres only one Kramer dealer in my whole state, and its far away, so ive never played one.

Munchlaxatives
01-13-2009, 11:41 AM
I hear they're pretty good, apart from the durability of the FR bridge. I played the $280 FR Striker and it had crazy low action and a nice neck. As far as the Vanguard, you're better off with the RR3

spaceace12342
01-13-2009, 12:26 PM
sweet dude.

i may look uinto one after i get an ESP.

Magero
01-13-2009, 12:50 PM
If you're getting an ESP, I wouldn't bother taking the step down to a Kramer.

CodySG
01-13-2009, 05:34 PM
For real...

A real, MIJ ESP is a top end guitar...

But, please don't limit yourself to JUST ESP because *your favorite artist(s)* uses them.

vhdude923
01-13-2009, 06:03 PM
I play ESP and honestly after playing one for 2 years I probably won't get anyything other than that for the next few guitars I get. I have the V-200 which is pretty cheap but I love the feel of it.

CodySG
01-13-2009, 06:27 PM
Played anything else though?

I've played a handful of anything and everything I can get my hands on, ESP's feel good and are great guitars, but I know of some others that feel just as good and some would say better.

All basic opinion and how things feel and sound in your hands/through your gear.

spaceace12342
01-14-2009, 09:51 AM
I have a Jackson DX10D, and it is one of the best playing guitars that i've ever played. My friend says it plays better than his 86 Charvel. But i am planning on getting an ESP in the future. I'm not sure which one, but it will probably be an M or MH series.

Vittu0666
01-14-2009, 10:42 AM
I have a Jackson DX10D, and it is one of the best playing guitars that i've ever played. My friend says it plays better than his 86 Charvel. But i am planning on getting an ESP in the future. I'm not sure which one, but it will probably be an M or MH series.
He must have a really low end Charvel then. 86, that's still San Dimas.

spaceace12342
01-14-2009, 12:28 PM
lol its not low end at all. I dont know exactly what model it is or anything, but it has a Kahler tremolo and the **** is nice.

Magero
01-14-2009, 12:58 PM
Get.
A.
Schecter.

spaceace12342
01-14-2009, 01:57 PM
mmmmmmmm. not a fan.

they make good guitars, but i dont care for them much. especially hellraisers. I don't like the coating on the back of the neck.

Magero
01-14-2009, 01:59 PM
Play a Demon.
Seriously.
Hellraisers are overrated.

Alter-Bridge
01-14-2009, 07:08 PM
Hellraisers are cool, I'll probably go for the classic though. The 'Duncans versatility is what I need.

the memory
01-14-2009, 07:19 PM
you could look for an older C1 blackjack

they had SDs too
really sweet guitars

Shinozoku
01-14-2009, 09:52 PM
Blackjacks still have SDs, just not passive ones.

Munchlaxatives
01-15-2009, 12:01 AM
I don't like how the neck seems to curve up around the first fret, especially how some models have a big bump behind the nut I find really uncomfortable.

I love the feel of the Damien, though.

SynGates7X
01-15-2009, 12:13 AM
Blackjacks still have SDs, just not passive ones.
Normal Blackjacks do, just not Blackjack ATX's.

Shinozoku
01-15-2009, 12:31 AM
Normal Blackjacks do, just not Blackjack ATX's.
Yeah, that's what I meant. I got from his post that he was saying the new Blackjack ATX models didn't have Duncans. I was merely correcting him :p:

And that bump is called a volute, and I personally think it adds a bit of beauty, and don't find it inhibiting at all (especially considering I don't play behind the nut :p: )

Vittu0666
01-15-2009, 12:43 AM
lol its not low end at all. I dont know exactly what model it is or anything, but it has a Kahler tremolo and the **** is nice.
Well, then again, it's a Charvel, not a Jackson. If it was an 86 Jackson, then that would be a whole different story.

_vk
01-15-2009, 09:40 AM
Well, then again, it's a Charvel, not a Jackson. If it was an 86 Jackson, then that would be a whole different story.
Children Of Bodom is very good band and it's Finnish!!

And for you Vittu0666, are you finnish? I ask that because I am finnish and I can't speak English very well but I try :peace:

Vittu0666
01-15-2009, 10:08 AM
Children Of Bodom is very good band and it's Finnish!!

And for you Vittu0666, are you finnish? I ask that because I am finnish and I can't speak English very well but I try :peace:
Lol, no sorry buddy. I'm from America, but I do know what Vittu means. ;)

spaceace12342
01-15-2009, 10:22 AM
Well, then again, it's a Charvel, not a Jackson. If it was an 86 Jackson, then that would be a whole different story.

I talked to him yesterday and it's actually a Charvel/Jackson

Vittu0666
01-15-2009, 10:25 AM
I talked to him yesterday and it's actually a Charvel/Jackson
Again, it's not a Jackson. What exact model is it?

spaceace12342
01-15-2009, 12:51 PM
as ive stated previously, i don't know.

Delanoir
01-15-2009, 10:46 PM
he plays a custom ESP now
after jackson got bought up by fender he switched to ESP
You do realize they aren't talking about Alexi, right? I would delete your post before anyone notices. I'll edit this out if you do.

In any case, CoB is apparently touring with Lamb of God, As I Lay Dying, Municipal Waste, and God Forbid this spring. LoG is the tour headliner, for their new album, supported by CoB and AILD, with MW and GF opening.

SonataFanica
01-15-2009, 10:52 PM
You do realize they aren't talking about Alexi, right? I would delete your post before anyone notices. I'll edit this out if you do.

In any case, CoB is apparently touring with Lamb of God, As I Lay Dying, Municipal Waste, and God Forbid this spring. LoG is the tour headliner, for their new album, supported by CoB and AILD, with MW and GF opening.
What a disgusting lineup. I don't know if I could sit through those bands just to see COB. Except for Municipal Waste, they're always fun.

dminishedthingy
01-15-2009, 11:05 PM
I've heard MW are a lot of fun live.
But that tour...
Bleh.

CodySG
01-15-2009, 11:08 PM
Meh...it's a live show. Who cares if the music is that great, just thrash till you can't then enjoy CoB and LoG.

Lamb of God puts on one of the best live shows I've ever seen...I'd go just for them, but add on CoB and it's a given.

Cool, coming to town 2 days before my 21st B-Day! Wicked present...

TheMantipede
01-15-2009, 11:13 PM
Eh, I'm not a fan of anyone on the list aside from Bodom of course, and I've heard LoG do put on a great show, but I'd probably never go see them just because I find that "Wall of Death" thing so ridiculous.

dminishedthingy
01-15-2009, 11:14 PM
Cryptopsy does a wall of death at live shows now :haha

TheMantipede
01-15-2009, 11:16 PM
You can't be serious...

:haha

Delanoir
01-16-2009, 12:05 AM
Though I suppose now it's more of a "Wall of Estrogen"

Anyway, here's the current tour schedule.

Apr. 02 - Dodge Theater - Phoenix, AZ
Apr. 03 - Palladium - Los Angeles, CA
Apr. 04 - Events Center - San Jose, CA
Apr. 05 - Crest Theater - Fresno, CA
Apr. 07 - Paramount - Seattle, WA
Apr. 08 - UBC Thunderbird Arena - Vancouver, BC
Apr. 10 - Shaw Conference Center - Edmonton, AB
Apr. 11 - The Coral - Calgary, AB
Apr. 12 - Praireeland - Saskatoon, SK
Apr. 13 - Convention Centre - Winnipeg, MB
Apr. 14 - City Auditorium - Thunder Bay, ON
Apr. 16 - Ricoh Coliseum - Toronto, ON
Apr. 17 - Cepsum - Montreal, QC
Apr. 18 - Palladium - Worcester, MA
Apr. 19 - Electric Factory - Philadelphia, PA
Apr. 21 - LC Pavillion - Columbus, OH
Apr. 22 - Tabernacle - Atlanta, GA
Apr. 23 - Blackham Coliseum - Lafayette, LA
Apr. 24 - Verizon Theatre - Houston, TX
Apr. 25 - Concrete St. Ampthitheatre - Corpus Christi, TX
Apr. 26 - Palladium Ballroom - Dallas, TX
Apr. 28 - Fillmore - Denver, CO
Apr. 29 - Uptown Theater - Kansas City, KS
Apr. 30 - Myth - St. Paul, MN
May 01 - Congress Theater - Chicago, IL
May 02 - The Pageant - St. Louis, MO
May 03 - Egyptian - Indianapolis, IN
May 05 - Expo Five - Louisville, KY
May 06 - Fillmore Theater - Detroit, MI
May 08 - Roseland Ballroom - New York, NY
May 09 - Convention Center - Asbury Park, NJ
May 11 - Rams Head Live - Baltimore, MD
May 12 - House of Blues - Boston, MA
May 13 - Washington St. Armory - Albany, NY
May 14 - [to be announced]
May 15 - House of Blues - Myrtle Beach, SC

Magero
01-16-2009, 12:11 AM
Wall of Death's are awesome fun.

Vittu0666
01-16-2009, 12:11 AM
Wow. Really? No Florida dates?

Anyone else notice that since Are You Dead Yet?, they haven't really toured with many Metal bands. Why haven't we seen something like a Norther/Bodom tour, or even a Wintersun/Bodom tour? I have no problem seeing them with LoG or even AILD, but I'd rather to have seen them a few years ago when they were with Evergrey and Iced Earth.

TheMantipede
01-16-2009, 12:13 AM
They're touring with Cannibal Corpse and were not too long ago on tour with Black Dahlia Murder, not to mention they were on Gigantour, however I do see what you mean, they've been touring with much more mainstream bands since the release of AYDY? since it seemed to kind of break them into the mainstream.

Magero
01-16-2009, 12:16 AM
It will be friendships formed, geographical convinience, and label decisions.

Vittu0666
01-16-2009, 12:19 AM
I'm totally down for bands breaking into the mainstream. Hell, Dimmu has kind of done it, but look at their last tour before that stuff with Danzig: The Legion of Darkness. Dimmu Borgir, BEHEMOTH!!!, and Keep of Kalessin. An amazing line-up with one band that has potential to break into mainstream and a band that's been around for awhile and is VERY sick, but not too many people have heard of.

TheMantipede
01-16-2009, 12:20 AM
Didn't Dimmu tour with Unearth a couple years ago? That seems like a really odd line-up...

Magero
01-16-2009, 12:21 AM
Yeah.
Unearth said it was one of the funniest tours they ever did. Because all the corpse paint kids were there to see Dimmu, and they don't give a fuck about anyone else. Buzz mentioned that on the last date of the tour, they got pelted with M&Ms.
In his words;
"I've been hit with less tasty snacks."

Vittu0666
01-16-2009, 12:25 AM
Lol, I actually forgot about that tour.

Shinozoku
01-16-2009, 01:00 AM
Cryptopsy does a wall of death at live shows now :haha
I'll bet it works better for them than it did for Yellowcard.

Reds3031
01-16-2009, 01:17 AM
Lamb of God + Municipal Waste + COB

I'm definitely going even if the other 2 bands are awful.

Magero
01-16-2009, 01:24 AM
God Forbid and AILD are awesome live.

CodySG
01-16-2009, 01:44 AM
Si, I saw GF when CoB did there first headliner back in I think '06 or '05 and they kicked ass.

The singer pointed to me in the crowd and said, "Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!" when I was going crazy and jumping around :D

Alter-Bridge
01-16-2009, 02:46 AM
Lamb of God + Municipal Waste + COB

I'm definitely going even if the other 2 bands are awful.
Children Of Bodom aren't that bad.

Magero
01-16-2009, 02:57 AM
:p:
Niiiice.

Reds3031
01-16-2009, 03:06 AM
God Forbid and AILD are awesome live.

I'll probably still enjoy it. I seem to appreciate a band much more after I see a live performance.

Amazingly, I didn't think much of BTBAM until I saw them open for COB.

Vittu0666
01-16-2009, 08:32 AM
I honestly really like God Forbid. Gone Forever was a pretty sick CD.

spaceace12342
01-16-2009, 11:37 AM
I had never heard God Forbid until now, and they are pretty good.

I saw the singer and i was like WTF? lol

Shinozoku
01-16-2009, 01:57 PM
I honestly really like God Forbid. Gone Forever was a pretty sick CD.
+1 Internetz to yew. Gone forever is a great album and has a guest solo from Jeff Loomis that rips :D

the memory
01-16-2009, 07:57 PM
i checked out gob forbid a few days ago after meaning to for ages


epic sh*t i tell yoU!

Vittu0666
01-16-2009, 08:55 PM
+1 Internetz to yew. Gone forever is a great album and has a guest solo from Jeff Loomis that rips :D
Yep. Bought it when it came out. Good stuff. Prior to their mentioning in this thread, I actually popped it in for the first time in a few years.

spaceace12342
01-16-2009, 11:43 PM
I wonder how much tickets would cost for the Myrtle Beach show

vhdude923
01-16-2009, 11:46 PM
I've been meaning to listen to God Forbid, but haven't gotten around to it. What's some good songs by them so I can give them a listen

Vittu0666
01-17-2009, 01:18 AM
I've been meaning to listen to God Forbid, but haven't gotten around to it. What's some good songs by them so I can give them a listen
I've always loved Anti Hero from the CD Gone Forever. It's pretty intense. I love how they always have solid rhythms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke8tXIATp1M

Munchlaxatives
01-17-2009, 02:07 AM
How much are tickets? I'd love to see Alexi and Roope, but I still want to see the Foo and Megadeth later this year.

CodySG
01-17-2009, 02:16 AM
I wouldn't imagine that much...

When I saw LoG/CoB it was like 30 something bucks.

onetenpercent
01-18-2009, 06:44 AM
CoB is B E A Utiful music. My personal fave.

ChelseaSmile
01-18-2009, 12:46 PM
I ****ing LOVE CoB
The stuff Alexi can do is unreal..
I like all their albums and none sounded similar to the other imho.
Hatebreeder, Follow The Reaper and Hate Crew Death Roll were the best albums imo.
I like blooddrunk, but i'm not too keen on the tone.
I've gone through a phase of having every single song as a favourite song one at a time at one point in my life :P
Going back to the stuff Alexi can do is unreal well..
I doubt they have it in their sets anymore (i've seen them twice so far and they didn't play it) but "Kissing the Shadows" from Follow The Reaper is IMMENSE.. There's a part with melodic shredding while he's doing vocals.
I can barely play it without vocals, but he can nail it perfect with both.
Youtube it, i've only seen them play it in korea.

Magero
01-18-2009, 01:01 PM
-pats head-
Cute.

vhdude923
01-18-2009, 03:28 PM
I ****ing LOVE CoB
The stuff Alexi can do is unreal..
I like all their albums and none sounded similar to the other imho.
Hatebreeder, Follow The Reaper and Hate Crew Death Roll were the best albums imo.
I like blooddrunk, but i'm not too keen on the tone.
I've gone through a phase of having every single song as a favourite song one at a time at one point in my life :P
Going back to the stuff Alexi can do is unreal well..
I doubt they have it in their sets anymore (i've seen them twice so far and they didn't play it) but "Kissing the Shadows" from Follow The Reaper is IMMENSE.. There's a part with melodic shredding while he's doing vocals.
I can barely play it without vocals, but he can nail it perfect with both.
Youtube it, i've only seen them play it in korea.

Yeah I think we're all aware of that seeing as this is the children of bodom thread.

Shinozoku
01-18-2009, 04:50 PM
Back on the topic... I need to get a .0015uF and a .0022uF cap and a switch for my SL+ module... More bass will really bring the Bodom out of this amp :D

a_man
01-18-2009, 04:52 PM
Back on the topic... I need to get a .0015uF and a .0022uF cap and a switch for my SL+ module... More bass will really bring the Bodom out of this amp :D

You wouldn't happen to know if those Randall modules can be wired into an RG50TC? Just wondering really.

Shinozoku
01-18-2009, 04:54 PM
Nope, I highly doubt they can. They're just for the MTS series and the Egnater modular amps. Getcha one, man, you'll shit bricks :D

a_man
01-18-2009, 04:57 PM
Nope, I highly doubt they can. They're just for the MTS series and the Egnater modular amps. Getcha one, man, you'll shit bricks :D

I can't I don't have any money :sad:. Oh well I'm quite happy with my amp at the minute.

nathanma93
01-18-2009, 06:06 PM
if i were to get 1 album from CoB which one would it be?

McGelie
01-18-2009, 06:31 PM
Hatebreeder.

God Of Sushi
01-18-2009, 06:50 PM
Alexi Is Awesome!!!!!!
Sickest Riffs Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shinozoku
01-18-2009, 07:08 PM
if i were to get 1 album from CoB which one would it be?
Follow The Reaper, hands down.

Alter-Bridge
01-18-2009, 07:53 PM
if i were to get 1 album from CoB which one would it be?
I'd say Follow The Reaper.

Butt Rayge
01-18-2009, 08:35 PM
Hey, i don't have Bloodrunk yet, how does it compare to their earlier stuff? Is it an improvement on Are You Dead Yet?

TheMantipede
01-18-2009, 08:38 PM
It's an improvement on AYDY? in my opinion, but I'd say it's about on par with HCDR, maybe a bit lacking in some departments but it's a good release I'd say, if you're a fan of anything post Hatebreeder you'd probably enjoy it.

McGelie
01-18-2009, 08:41 PM
I personally thought it was a great improvement on AYDY. I couldn't name you two songs off of AYDY by listening except the title track, but play me any song off Blooddrunk and i'll tell you the name in two seconds.

MAKETHEMSUFFER!
01-18-2009, 08:43 PM
I honestly don't like Bloodrunk all that much. There are some improvements from AYDY, but overall I think AYDY just has better songs.

Butt Rayge
01-18-2009, 08:52 PM
I do like AYDY? Just maybe not as much as the others. I really like how Alexi has improved his vocals. I have to say he was pretty terrible on Hatebreeder and Something Wild.

What genre does the Cob forum think they are? I've always thought Power Metal with Extreme vocals...

McGelie
01-18-2009, 08:58 PM
I thought his ''growls'' or lower voocals or whatever they were on Hatebreeder and SW were disgusting. The music kicked ass though.

the memory
01-18-2009, 09:01 PM
there was something about his vocals that worked with the music though


they are definetly much clearer now and he can do them properly while playing guitar too

as for genre, i really dont know. They kinda started as neoclassical power metal and now they are kinda modern thrash metal i guess
ahaha

CodySG
01-18-2009, 09:38 PM
I've ALWAYS just classified as Melo-Death.

May be wrong, but that's just how I see 'em...

Probably not so much post AYDY? though :(

Also...I've always wanted to know *and I'm sure most people will just go with the majority* but seeing as how sooooo many people seem to splooge for KtS, this question, I ask upon thee!

If there wasn't 85737983 solos, still like it? Why? What REALLY makes it different than other CoB songs besides the 6 solos?

TheMantipede
01-18-2009, 09:46 PM
The solos are probably the main reason I listen to that song, if you took them all out they'd basically just be a filler, but still in the same format as all of the other FTR songs.

Taydr
01-18-2009, 09:52 PM
If anyone can tell me what I have to do to be able to play the keys for Silent night, bodom night I'll be most grateful. That songs been pissing me off for ages now.