Blues and Jazz Off Topic/Chat Thread!

[nightraven]

darling chatters, i have a request :(

can anyone recommend me some acid jazz, which is as orgasmic as http://youtube.com/watch?v=b8KlOZEgtKs


edit: yay 3000th reply.

[gopherthegreat]

neil, whats your last name? this sounds completely random but it isnt.

[theneildeal]

flynn. like the actor who plays the janitor in scrubs: Neil Flynn

Christopher is my middle name, to answer your next question

[Dimebag22]

Flynn!

EDIT: Damn you Neil...

[gopherthegreat]

i was wondering because i have two Neils on msn and i didnt know if you were both of them

i also have a mysterious man named Bob who added me but hasnt spoken to me :haha

[theneildeal]

i had him!!!! spunk-@hotmail.com, right?

i said "who the frizizzle are you?" and he replied with "............. im a pitmonkey"

block+delete make neil happy boy

[Dimebag22]

That guy added me too! I didn't accept because he sent me like 3 different adds from different emails. Then he keeps on adding me. It's like the 4th day in a row that I've come home and he's added me again!

Get the hint buddy.

[gopherthegreat]

ok then:haha

[srvflood]

darling chatters, i have a request :(

can anyone recommend me some acid jazz, which is as orgasmic as http://youtube.com/watch?v=b8KlOZEgtKs


edit: yay 3000th reply.

Medeski, Martin, and Wood

[Dimebag22]

darling chatters, i have a request :(

can anyone recommend me some acid jazz, which is as orgasmic as http://youtube.com/watch?v=b8KlOZEgtKs


edit: yay 3000th reply.
That song is really good! Me likes. :p:

I gotta pick up one of these guy's CDs.

[gopherthegreat]

im bored

yaaaaawwwwwwwwn...................................

[TheDev01dOne]

I just watched Cars. Awesome.

I'm bored too now, gonna listen to the new Chris Whitley albums I got today and see if they're good.

[Dimebag22]

^ You are starting to sound like Goolz.

EDIT: To Logan.

[gopherthegreat]

Haha, i guess that did sound a bit like him

Wheres he been?

[Dimebag22]

He got banned in the face.

[TheDev01dOne]

Shouldn't he be back by now though?

[Dimebag22]

Nah, his thing still says 'Banned'

[TheDev01dOne]

Seems like it's been ages.

Has anyone seen the movie/documentary "Hellhound on my trail: The afterlife of robert johnson" ?? Seems like it would be good, it has this Chris Whitley dude in it, I think its about modernish slide blues players or something. I'm trying to find it on the interwebs but no luck so far.

[ze monsta]

I think Goolz has 1 or 2 days left on his ban.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RhxdQJ_uRA <- Goolz much?

Tim, link?

[Pink Zeptallica]

I don't drink coca cola. heh

[meh!]

Lol, my brother has a thing about hating coca-cola company as well. :rolleyes:


Coke employ mercenaries to kill trade union leaders and disband the unions. That's a good reason why some people hate them/won't drink their products.

It's a shame they're far too big and powerful to be affected by any sort of boycott. I don't drink it, but I'm sure many other things I eat and drink fund horrible things around the world. Such a shame that they always do.

[theneildeal]

Coke employ mercenaries to kill trade union leaders and disband the unions.

That's just anti-capitalist propaganda

Did you know that Coke is the most spoken word in the world?! I didn't believe it when i first heard it, but its true. When you think about it, you can find it in every bar, in every city, in every country

[ze monsta]

Yeah, I know about it. It's sad stuff, they don't even let workers join unions. They also take water supplies in district of asia and basically fill it with pesticides and. He's also really big into fair trade stuff, which is fair enough, it even tastes nicer than cadburys. :puke: But that's mainly because his house mate is a big campaigner and works for the fair trade thing and gets a load of it free. :haha

[Jackal58]

Coke employ mercenaries to kill trade union leaders and disband the unions. That's a good reason why some people hate them/won't drink their products.

It's a shame they're far too big and powerful to be affected by any sort of boycott. I don't drink it, but I'm sure many other things I eat and drink fund horrible things around the world. Such a shame that they always do.
Could you point me to some documentation to support that? I'm not a coke fan but I'm not sure I completely buy into that.

[theneildeal]

Yeah, I know about it. It's sad stuff, they don't even let workers join unions. They also take water supplies in district of asia and basically fill it with pesticides and.

That's just anti-capitalist propaganda

It seems like if you criticise a company on a sticker, everyone believes it! ****ing hippies

[Pink Zeptallica]

Don't get me started on palm oil.

[nightraven]

Medeski, Martin, and Wood
thanks :D

any specific album recommendations?

[Jackal58]

Hey guys. I talked to Jasper (Resiliance) about this and have received his ok if you are interested.
A blues/jazz radio thread. The basic idea is to allow us to put together a mix of some of our favourite stuff to share with each other. It can be uploaded to www.muxtape.com or http://megaupload.com/. And ya I stole the idea from the Mod Rock forum who stole it from else where. If you're interested I'll start the thread and get it organized. The other forums have a new mix up every two weeks. Seems to work. Lemme know what you think.

[theneildeal]

sounds great. it will be like our own little podcast!

[Dimebag22]

Hell yeah man! That sounds like a killer idea!

[Jackal58]

sounds great. it will be like our own little podcast!
A great way to share some stuff others haven't heard plus it gives a little more insight into each other.

[TheDev01dOne]

Sounds awesome if it will work how I think it does. Get it started, more stuff to keep us occupied and possibly draw more attention to our little forum.

[theneildeal]

by the way, congratulations to everyone from here who made it onto the UG Album!

I entered half-jokingly, and im doing alright in it! Im impressed, because my vocals on it are suspect! haha

[meh!]

Could you point me to some documentation to support that? I'm not a coke fan but I'm not sure I completely buy into that.



American Fact finding delegation (made up of councillors and members from steelworkers of America/America against sweatshops) decided:

To date, there have been a total of 179 major human rights violations of Coca-Cola's workers, including nine murders. Family members of union activists have been abducted and tortured. Union members have been fired for attending union meetings. The company has pressured workers to resign their union membership and contractual rights, and fired workers who refused to do so.
Most troubling to the delegation were the persistent allegations that paramilitary violence against workers was done with the knowledge of and likely under the direction of company managers. The physical access that paramilitaries have had to Coca-Cola bottling plants is impossible without company knowledge and/or tacit approval....

Also important:

'The company's inaction and its ongoing refusal to take any responsibility for the human rights crisis faced by its workforce in Colombia demonstrates-at best- disregard for the lives of its workers.

Coca-Cola's complicity in the situation is deepened by its repeated pattern of bringing criminal charges against union activists who have spoken out about the company's collusion with paramilitaries. These charges have been dismissed without merit on several occasions.'

_____________________
Coca-Cola responded in writing that the "Company does not anticipate supporting in any way any form of 'independent fact-finding delegation to Colombia,'" and that allegations would only be reviewed locally.

ollusion between the state military and paramilitary forces is an open secret in Colombia, and the total impunity of those who terrorize union activists only underscores the connection between legal and illegal actors seeking to suppress union activity.

Columbia is the most dangerous place to be in a union in the world, '169 in 2001, 184 in 2002, 92 in 2003. In all, some 4,000 union members have been assassinated since 1986, and to date no one has been arrested, tried and convicted for a single one of these murders. In addition to murder, unionists have been subject to other forms of violence and terror, including kidnapping, beatings, death threats and intimidation.'.

There's more through the trade union movements throughout the world, but I'm not going into that.

Not directed at you: It's very simple to pretend that when an American or British company does something heinous (like coca-cola, or the British arms companies that sell weapons to anyone and everyone (Saudia Arabia being a good example) that's it's 'anti-capitalist' propoganda. It does, in fact, have nothing to do with being anti-capitalist. I know many fervently capitalist people who are opposed to ridiculous danger that faces anyone who's in a union in Columbia, coke happily take advantage of and perpetuate this fact.


This is way too heavy for here, should be in politics thread...lol

[Jackal58]

Thanks man. I take everything with a grain of salt.

So anyways I'm going to make the Blues/Jazz Radio thread. The idea seems to be well received. Resiliance said he would sticky it for us but it might take a bit for him to get to it.
After the thread is up feel free to pick a time to put up your list and I'll organize as I get the time.

[GD_GC]

That blues/jazz radio idea thing sounds awesome! I'd love to be involved in that.

And on another note, are we ever gonna finish the blues duels?

[ze monsta]

Resi needs to unsticky the blues duel thread aswell, seeing as that's long gone, now.

I played/tried to play american football today. :rolleyes:

God I sucked, I can throw the ball pretty far and well, and catch it but it's so difficult.

I have an american friend, and I was at his house today and his dad was like: " U guise! Hai guise!!!1! y dont we go play futball in teh park!!!" and I was like "yh, sounds cool, you up for it Rob?"...so anyway, we walk to the park and his dad was like a street behind coz he was grabbing a ball from their garden, and we get their and he boots the ball over...I was like, his isn't a football! Then got into some argument with them :haha Today's been sick. :cool:

[TeXaS_db]

by the way, congratulations to everyone from here who made it onto the UG Album!

I entered half-jokingly, and im doing alright in it! Im impressed, because my vocals on it are suspect! haha
i really like your song, pretty good vocals. im goin to try to vote here in a lil bit.
my song was on the 2nd intrumentals and i think i may make it on the album.

[gopherthegreat]

That's just anti-capitalist propaganda
and you dismissed that as anti-capitalist propaganda without looking into it?

i do my best to avoid major human rights violating companies.

[theneildeal]

99.9999999% of these claims are anti capitalist propaganda. It was a fair assumption

[gopherthegreat]

Panamerican Beverages (Panamco), Coca-Cola's main bottler in Latin America, has been criticized for its relationship with unions. In Colombia, it has been alleged that the bottling company hired paramilitary mercenaries to assassinate union leaders. These charges have resulted in several court cases and boycott actions against The Coca-Cola Company.

In July 2001, the United Steelworkers of America and the International Labor Rights Fund filed suit in US court against Coca-Cola and some bottlers in Colombia on behalf of their workers [12]. This lawsuit was titled Sinaltrainal v. Coca-Cola. According to the plaintiffs, the companies "hired, contracted with or otherwise directed paramilitary security forces". The companies denied the charges. In April 2003 District Judge Jose E Martinez in Miami excluded The Coca-Cola Company and its Colombian unit because its bottling agreement did not give it "explicit control" over labor issues in Colombia.

In January 2004, New York City based fact-finding delegation, a self-initated group that included some city officials in a personal capacity, on Coca-Cola in Colombia[32] confirmed the workers' allegations. They found:

To date, there have been a total of 179 major human rights violations of Coca-Cola's workers, including nine murders. Family members of union activists have been abducted and tortured. Union members have been fired for attending union meetings. The company has pressured workers to resign their union membership and contractual rights, and fired workers who refused to do so.
Most troubling to the delegation were the persistent allegations that paramilitary violence against workers was done with the knowledge of and likely under the direction of company managers. The physical access that paramilitaries have had to Coca-Cola bottling plants is impossible without company knowledge and/or tacit approval....

The bottler and The Coca-Cola Company deny these allegations. Specifically, The Coca-Cola Company stated in its 2004 proxy[33]

Two different independent inquiries in Colombia—a judicial inquiry by a Colombian Court, and an inquiry by the Colombian Attorney General's office—examined the specific issue of whether managers at a bottling plant were complicit in the murder of a trade unionist. They found no evidence to support the allegation. Further, based on internal investigations conducted by our Company and by our bottling partners, we are confident that allegations the bottlers engaged paramilitaries to intimidate trade unionists are false.
The allegations made against us in Colombia are not merely false; they are repugnant to all of us at The Coca-Cola Company. We agree with the proponents that our Company must clearly demonstrate that we and our bottling partners support human and labor rights and oppose all forms of violence. Our desire is for Coca-Cola to be seen as part of the solution to some of the business issues in Colombia today. We are convinced our current approach will allow for that outcome.
Critics argue that, whatever their source, these assassinations seem to have been helpful to Coca-Cola in eliminating troublemakers from their bottling plants.

there you go

[theneildeal]

well, in latin america, that's how business is conducted. As westerners, we find it disturbing, but unfortunately, that's life over there. If you want to succeed over there, you have to do that kind of thing.

[gopherthegreat]

that still doesn't justify it, imo. but moving on........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUU85sOxZ78

who knows if theres a pedal or something i can get to get closer his tone that he gets at 47 seconds?

[Dimebag22]

A really twangy clean tone?

[gopherthegreat]

indeed

[Dimebag22]

Put it on your bridge pick-up on a Strat or a Tele. Maybe add a little tube screamer, just a tad though.

[Beakwithteeth]

well, in latin america, that's how business is conducted. As westerners, we find it disturbing, but unfortunately, that's life over there. If you want to succeed over there, you have to do that kind of thing.

Well that isn't REALLY a good excuse 'cuz "human rights violation" seems pretty straighforwardly bad to me, regardless of what the norm is.

Doesn't matter anyway though I drink Pepsi because I enjoy it more. :o

EDIT: Didn't realize we were moving on. Sorry... :sad:

[TheDev01dOne]

I don't drink either because they both contain caffeine. Ha!

[Beakwithteeth]

Caffiene > You

Just kidding obviously, if I thought that I would drink energy drinks :rolleyes:

[TheDev01dOne]

I'm way more anti-capitalist, drug free, boycott hardcore than all of you.

Seriously though.. I want a resonator now after listening to loads of slide guitarring. Can't buy one though damnit :(

[Beakwithteeth]

I'm way more anti-capitalist, drug free, boycott hardcore than all of you.

Damn :p:


Seriously though.. I want a resonator now after listening to loads of slide guitarring. Can't buy one though damnit :(

Steal one.


I voted for you for something on the UG awards, I can't remember what though.

[TheDev01dOne]

Lol sweet I hope I win it?

I can afford one, just don't really have the space for one. I might end up grabbing a cheapish used one and sell it again before I leave.

[Beakwithteeth]

I think I voted you best gear. It was strictly based on assumption since you seem to be a tele afficionado though.

[TheDev01dOne]

Lol yeah my gear isn't what it once was actually. Yet I'm more satisfied with it now than ever before.

http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/profile_mojo_data/2/8/9/3/289380/pics/_c290458_image_0.JPG

Was nice decoration for my bedroom. I miss the amp mostly :(

[Pink Zeptallica]

Seriously though.. I want a resonator now after listening to loads of slide guitarring. Can't buy one though damnit :(

By the loooks of your gear you should get a national resonator guitar. A friend of mine had one and they are bliss. Most cheap resonators sound like **** btw.

Oh and is that a John 5 tele?! Nice.

[TheDev01dOne]

I don't have most of that stuff anymore, sold pretty much all the expensive stuff before I came over here to England.

Hence why I can't get another guitar really.. I already have 3 Telecasters and an acoustic guitar to somehow get back to Australia, let alone a resonator..

[imgooley]

Hello Bitches.

Gus, you probably suck at American Football, yes?

Tim, I want a resonator too.

I am now going to go over the last month of posts to find where we are all at....

[meh!]

well, in latin america, that's how business is conducted. As westerners, we find it disturbing, but unfortunately, that's life over there. If you want to succeed over there, you have to do that kind of thing.


EH, what?

The columbians are TRYING to organise in unions to make their lives better for themselves and to try and defend against companies like this. Coca-cola are KILLING trade unionists, kidnapping them and torturing them and their families to stop this.

How is that ever an OK thing for a business to do?

And what do you mean 'if you want to succeed over there'? Coke succeed everywhere because of these 'business' practises.

That's not just 'how business is conducted' that's muder and torture to keep these people down. That's not acceptable anywhere. Ever.


Again, I don't mean to get all preachy and I don't have anything against people buying coke products but to say 'that's how it's done over there' to justify atrocities isn't right.

EDIT: Soz, didn't see we'd moved on :p:

[imgooley]

^That's why I drink Pepsi.

[GD_GC]

Yay, goolz is back!

[theneildeal]

EH, what?

The columbians are TRYING to organise in unions to make their lives better for themselves and to try and defend against companies like this. Coca-cola are KILLING trade unionists, kidnapping them and torturing them and their families to stop this.

How is that ever an OK thing for a business to do?

And what do you mean 'if you want to succeed over there'? Coke succeed everywhere because of these 'business' practises.

That's not just 'how business is conducted' that's muder and torture to keep these people down. That's not acceptable anywhere. Ever.


Again, I don't mean to get all preachy and I don't have anything against people buying coke products but to say 'that's how it's done over there' to justify atrocities isn't right.

EDIT: Soz, didn't see we'd moved on :p:

i don't agree with latin american business practices, but it happens. Im not trying to defend what they do. Im just making an observation

[imgooley]

Goddammit where is everyone....


Finally back, and no one is here...

[ze monsta]

Goddammit where is everyone....


Finally back, and no one is here...
Sup, I just got in.

I went to see my brother and he let me borrow A Hard Road by John Mayall and The Bluesbreakers. Great album, Greenie's guitar playing is immense.

[imgooley]

I need some John Mayall....


I am downloading some Ry Cooder. Goin to Brownsville= epic.

[ze monsta]

My brother and dad saw him a few years ago, I didn't really listen to blues, mainly classic rock then. I'm so jealous now. :devil:

I could never get into Ry Cooder, it's a shame coz I love slide...

[Jackal58]

Welcome back Goolz.

[imgooley]

This is epic http://youtube.com/watch?v=VSpKLgwcXD8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=icLUJfD7fLo

[ze monsta]

ZOMG, 35 people in the forum. :eek:

[imgooley]

zomfg111!!!1!!!!

So, whilst I was away, I played my first live show.

[ze monsta]

O rly?!

What did you play?

[imgooley]

The first show, I played Voodoo Child, Leave My Girl Alone, Bring it on Home, and Sweet Home Chicago.

The second show, I played Smokestack Lightning, Red House, In My Time of Dying, and Little Wing.

[ze monsta]

Was it electric of acoustic, and how did it go?

[imgooley]

I played teh electric.

I completely blew Voodoo Child. I had to sing it as well, and I kept messing up.

Leave my Girl Alone was awesome. Totally nailed it. Sang that one too.

Bring it on home was a bit mixed. I kept wanting to change too early, and I forgot part of the bridge, but it still worked out good because the harp player is a damn good harp player.

I just played rhythm and one solo on Sweet Home Chicago. It was fun.

[sre9981]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WYPPAe2vPTM

that is all

[imgooley]

Dammit, this place is so dead!

Come alive, Blues Forum!

[imgooley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55PVIaqBuwE

That's me

[theneildeal]

ive got my final exam tomorrow!! i can't get lively!!!!





..........im still procrastinating though......

[imgooley]

God I suck lol

[TheDev01dOne]

Man I am so pissed off, just spend £270 on an Xbox 360 simply to get GTA IV.. Got it home and put the disc in and somehow it has scratched the **** out of the disc!! So I can't even play the 1 game I wanted!! Stupid ****ing techmology.. Stuck playing Oblivion now instead.. Kinda boring.

[imgooley]

Man I am so pissed off, just spend £270 on an Xbox 360 simply to get GTA IV.. Got it home and put the disc in and somehow it has scratched the **** out of the disc!! So I can't even play the 1 game I wanted!! Stupid ****ing techmology.. Stuck playing Oblivion now instead.. Kinda boring.
That sux

[TheDev01dOne]

Makes me sad in my pants. They better replace either the console or the disc 'cos 1 of them is faulty and I'm not a happy chappy!

Welcome back BTW Goolz. :cheers:

[imgooley]

Thanks Tim.


Did you see the vid of my show?

It was sooooo terrible.

[TheDev01dOne]

No, link me it yo'

[imgooley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55PVIaqBuwE

[imgooley]

soo bad

[Dimebag22]

It's not that bad man! :)

Oh, and welcome back ;)

[imgooley]

Thanks, kris.

That drummer was off beat...

[meh!]

Seems odd, you seem like good players except...no offense...the drummer, why can't she stay in time?

[redh0tchilip3pp]

Thelonious Monk owns the world. :)

[imgooley]

Seems odd, you seem like good players except...no offense...the drummer, why can't she stay in time?
Yeah, she threw us all off.

We did jam with another drummer a couple weeks ago, though, and he was awesome. Jammed with a damn good horn player too.

[sre9981]

I love jamming with horn players, except when they can't shut the hell up and let other people go. I know you're a lead instrument, but so are we!

I haven't jammed in ages either, thanks for reminding me of that >:-(

I also just made an amp out of an old walkman I had, it sounds so incredibly lo-fi-y

[imgooley]

Did you make that amp for teh lulz?

Is it stereo amp, and I don't think it's tube?

[Jackal58]

I love jamming with horn players, except when they can't shut the hell up and let other people go. I know you're a lead instrument, but so are we!

I haven't jammed in ages either, thanks for reminding me of that >:-(

I also just made an amp out of an old walkman I had, it sounds so incredibly lo-fi-y
Next time you're in Michigan come jam with me. :) Oh and btw.
http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/sre9981/ :p:

[sre9981]

Did you make that amp for teh lulz?

Is it stereo amp, and I don't think it's tube?

I made it for the lulz, mainly cause i've been meaning to do it for a while. I still want to find a bigger tape player or boombox at some point to modify and make into an amp. It also is going to be involved in my summer project (an album *GASP*) at some point :P

It is not tube, its a little dinky handheld walkman, solid state, gloriously lo-fi and digital sounding. It has no tone, and its awesome.

And jackal, ow, that hurt :P

Oh, and to assuage my ego...
http://srebluesjazz.muxtape.com/ what did you guys who listened to my mix think of it :P

[Dimebag22]

^ I really liked that Bob Dylan song man.

All in all, it was a fairly good mix. More blues inspired rock than anything though ;) I liked it.

[Jackal58]

I enjoyed it. Was a bit surprised with the Ram Jam at the end. Have you ever heard Spider Bait's version of Black Betty? It freakin rocks.

[sre9981]

It definately swung more towards the rock side, which I'm fine with, I've been appreciating music with energy recently, which I find is lacking in straight blues (which I still like), but is more present in fuller sounding rock.

The Dylan song is pretty neat, I've been getting more into his electric stuff recently and I figured he'd fit nicely into that section of the mix.

I love Black Betty, its one of my goal songs to play in a packed room at some venue when I get a band together. Its one of those songs that I just go nuts to.

I don't think it was my best mix, my radio show this past semester had some awesome shows. We did blues/blues-rock in the same style as my mix, with a focus on live and rarities. We had some downright kickass shows

[Beakwithteeth]

I enjoyed it. Was a bit surprised with the Ram Jam at the end. Have you ever heard Spider Bait's version of Black Betty? It freakin rocks.

Really? I don't really like their version. I do like the weird finger-pick sounding thing they add to it but overall I find it to be pretty meh.

[imgooley]

Back from playing another impromptu jam show.

It was cool.

[Beakwithteeth]

^ Cool by impropmtu jam show do you mean the show was unplanned or the show consisted of pure improvisation?

[imgooley]

^ Cool by impropmtu jam show do you mean the show was unplanned or the show consisted of pure improvisation?
Pretty much.

[Beakwithteeth]

Ummm... those were two choices...

[imgooley]

The latter then.

[Beakwithteeth]

Oh, cool.

How did you go about doing that? I consider my band a jam band (even though we suck) but idk what I would do if I didn't have a song to base my improv off of. (actually I would probably do lame pentatonic like I do anyway :sad: )

[Jackal58]

What's wrong with unplanned improvisation? Other than the kids it produces.

[Beakwithteeth]

Nothing wrong with it, I just don't have any experience with it.









that accurately continues the analogy... :sad:

[imgooley]

Well, we played a couple standards, and a couple of just odd jams.

It was fun.

[Beakwithteeth]

Well that isn't JUST improv then :rolleyes:


:haha it doesn't matter, sounds cool.

[imgooley]

...


A 2 chord funk blues type deal is a pure jam, no?

[Beakwithteeth]

Oh, it is, but you said you played standards too, I thought you meant the whole show was just ad lib. No worries though, the eye roll was sarcastic sarcasm (does that work?) so do not be angry at me. :cheers:

[imgooley]

No anger here.

I soooooooooo need to play with people more, to coordinate my style better.

[Jackal58]

^ You were a busy boy last night. :p:
Making up for lost time?

[meh!]

I'm being guitar tech for a 2 day show at our concert hall in a week and a bit.

Only problem is it's a (at present) a one time gig. I'm hoping I can get something more permanent out of it.

[Jackal58]

Good luck man. Sounds fun.

[ze monsta]

I iz happi, i haz haribos.

[imgooley]

I'm being guitar tech for a 2 day show at our concert hall in a week and a bit.

Only problem is it's a (at present) a one time gig. I'm hoping I can get something more permanent out of it.
What kind of show is it?

[meh!]

It's a big-ish show in our Concert hall. It's not genre based, but bands from the area.

Either way, it's a decent experience and I'm getting paid so I'm happy.

[imgooley]

Sounds like fun.

[ze monsta]

Blind Boy Fuller = Class
Anyone know of some good cds?
I'm guessing not, but worth a try...

[imgooley]

What Blind Boy Fuller CDs? no. Other random CDs? yes

[ze monsta]

Blind Boy Fuller cd's.

:sad:

[aetherspear]

^Heart Ease Blues is good.

[ze monsta]

oooooh!

:cheers:

[imgooley]

sooooooooooooooooooooo booooooooooooooreed

[Dimebag22]

What did you do when you were banned there Goolz? If you're bored now, I wonder what you were like then :p:

[imgooley]

What did you do when you were banned there Goolz? If you're bored now, I wonder what you were like then :p:
I touched myself at night, duh.


Lots and lots of guitar playing

[Beakwithteeth]

Lots and lots of guitar playing

Wow good thing you're back. Hate to see that happening. :p:

[imgooley]

Wow good thing you're back. Hate to see that happening. :p:
I know, right? Like learning slide guitar in different tunings is really needed anyway...


Here, I watched this (the whole thing) like 7 times http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR9ub8kI7fo

[sre9981]

I just do not like the tone of lace sensors. I'm a humbucker/twang guy myself

[Dimebag22]

:eek: :eek:

So you know how I said I was going to get that new amp and the ES-339. Well, I went into my local store, and there was this Fender Twin for $950 used. I played it a bit, and the tone was godly! So I talked to my parents and I bought it! :D

It is amazing! I'll post some sound clips later. :)

[imgooley]

:eek: :eek:

So you know how I said I was going to get that new amp and the ES-339. Well, I went into my local store, and there was this Fender Twin for $950 used. I played it a bit, and the tone was godly! So I talked to my parents and I bought it! :D

It is amazing! I'll post some sound clips later. :)
You damn lucky canuck. Is it a twin, or a twin reverb? Blackface Reissue?

Personally, I like the 57 twin reissue in blond tweed. Blond Tweed+Fender amps= sex.

[Dimebag22]

It's the new Fender Twin Amp. It's pretty dope! It can go anywhere from SRV blues, to classic Rock distortion, to squeaky cleans. :)

I gotta work early tomorrow (6 am) but I wanna stay up late and get to know this thing :p:

[imgooley]

Damn lucky you are. I already know what kind of amp is in my future. Epi Blues Custom, as soon as I get 500 bucks to spend on an amp.

[Dimebag22]

This is mine. :D

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Twin-Amp-100-Watt-All-Tube-Guitar-Amp-480649-i1145377.gc

Oh and I gotta work at 6 am to pay this damn thing off :p:

[imgooley]

@#$#@$

100 watts tube? That thing will tear your house apart before it breaks up at all! Hope you got a good OD and distortion pedal to go in front of it.

The cleans on that must be epic.

[Dimebag22]

It's actually crazy dude. It's got a sick OD channel and it's also got a 1/4 power switch to make it go from 100w to 25w. I would have never bought it if it was only 100w tube :p:

25w is a very decent size for when I practice in my room, and 100w is more than enough when I need to keep up to my drummer :p:

[imgooley]

****, 25 watts is more than enough.

The one I'm getting is a 30 watt Class A/B with a 15 watt Class A switch. Most of the time I play dirty anyway.

[ze monsta]

Wow...well that was quick, you were only talking about it like a week ago, Kris!

That's killer for $950..enjoy it man...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix4TNJvVk8M&feature=related
If anybody wants me, I'll be in the corner crying.

[theneildeal]

The UG Blues & Jazz album is now finished. The link to your free copy is the the blues album thread

Neil

[sre9981]

Wow...well that was quick, you were only talking about it like a week ago, Kris!

That's killer for $950..enjoy it man...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix4TNJvVk8M&feature=related
If anybody wants me, I'll be in the corner crying.

ruined my day...

how come buddy guy hasn't invited me to jam with him yet :cry:

[theneildeal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix4TNJvVk8M&feature=related
If anybody wants me, I'll be in the corner crying.

well, im off to kill myself

[imgooley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix4TNJvVk8M&feature=related
If anybody wants me, I'll be in the corner crying.
That kid ain't playing the blues, no matter what is being said. There ain't no way an 8 year old can play the blues. Sure, he may hit the note, but he can't truely understand what it is that he is playing. I don't hate the video based on the fact that an 8 year old kid is playing with Buddy Guy, I hate it based on the fact that Buddy Guy is giving that kind of respect to an 8 year old kid.

[Beakwithteeth]

I have seen that video before. He's pretty good but I just hate child prodigys.

[ze monsta]

That kid ain't playing the blues, no matter what is being said. There ain't no way an 8 year old can play the blues. Sure, he may hit the note, but he can't truely understand what it is that he is playing. I don't hate the video based on the fact that an 8 year old kid is playing with Buddy Guy, I hate it based on the fact that Buddy Guy is giving that kind of respect to an 8 year old kid.
You mean you are jealous? Aren't we all?
I don't think it really matters, and yeah Amos, I hate child prodigies too, being a child ( I suppose I still am) it makes it even worse.

[imgooley]

I would feel the same even if I didn't play guitar. IDK, maybe I'm an elitist, but I don't think an 8 year old can play the blues. The blues is more than just notes, or even a playing style.

[Beakwithteeth]

Ha, first time I have been called by my name on this site :D

I just hate most of them because they normally are doing something that older artists do much better. So people will listen to them based on the gimmick of them being very young when they could be listening to older, more experienced players/singers that are better.

[imgooley]

^There's that too. I hate gimmicks.

[Beakwithteeth]

I would feel the same even if I didn't play guitar. IDK, maybe I'm an elitist, but I don't think an 8 year old can play the blues. The blues is more than just notes, or even a playing style.

I agree to a certain extent, but at the same time everyone can feel the blues. I mean, my life is probably never gonna be as hard as the lives of the old bluesmen because I haven't faced poverty, racism, or anything like that. But I don't feel like I am excluded from being able to play the blues because I can, at some level, still relate to it.

But realistically, 8 year old blues would be really stupid. What would they have the blues about? SpongeBob Squarepants playing re-runs?

[ze monsta]

It's about having fun though...I think you have to take that into account we call these people prodigies but as Joe Bonamassa has said, you can find a better guitar player or singer than me in Denmark Street...It's a case of who gets the attention.

Maybe this kid will turn into another Bonamassa or Mayer. Sure it's a gimmick now, but is it a bad thing in the long run?

I don't think the kid should be blamed or people get annoyed by it, as I doubt he knows anything about it, and just enjoys playing his guitar, singing and being on stage or whatever. And who can blame him?

[Beakwithteeth]

Not blaming him. Some people (like my sister) just get way worked up over kids like this and it annoys me a lot.

As an 8 year old though I bet there is a lot of parental influence on his playing. I don't know this for sure but my assumption would be his parents are pushing him. But maybe he will become something big some day. Who knows? There's always room for another bluesman.

[imgooley]

Lets see where he is in ten years.


On a different note, I'm thinking of covering Born Under A Bad Sign for my next jam show.

[theneildeal]

I agree to a certain extent, but at the same time everyone can feel the blues. I mean, my life is probably never gonna be as hard as the lives of the old bluesmen because I haven't faced poverty, racism, or anything like that. But I don't feel like I am excluded from being able to play the blues because I can, at some level, still relate to it.

But realistically, 8 year old blues would be really stupid. What would they have the blues about? SpongeBob Squarepants playing re-runs?

Blues is a state of mind. There is no way of saying "that's a blues type problem, but that isn't", because blues is about what makes you feel blue. Whether that is racism, poverty, the price of coke increasing, or a teacher giving you an F. Because at the end of the day, you can relate any of those problems to your own life. Its just how you interpret them.

If the kid wrote a song called "Spongebob Blues", it might not be to my liking, but im sure that relate "having to watch Spongebob repeats" to my life.

[imgooley]

Blues is a state of mind. There is no way of saying "that's a blues type problem, but that isn't", because blues is about what makes you feel blue. Whether that is racism, poverty, the price of coke increasing, or a teacher giving you an F. Because at the end of the day, you can relate any of those problems to your own life. Its just how you interpret them.

If the kid wrote a song called "Spongebob Blues", it might not be to my liking, but im sure that relate "having to watch Spongebob repeats" to my life.
Yeah, but an 8 year old can't understand the context of the emotion. If one takes that state of mind out of context, it's faking, and you can't fake the blues.

It's about understanding. Whether it's about watching reruns, waiting in line at the store, or shooting your adulterous woman, it's about having a problem, understanding that problem, and dealing with it. I would have more respect for a 14 year old playing blues because they can understand the context of their issues better than an 8 year old.

[Beakwithteeth]

On a different note, I'm thinking of covering Born Under A Bad Sign for my next jam show.

Do it. Do you have an actual band or do you just informally jam?

[imgooley]

Do it. Do you have an actual band or do you just informally jam?
Informal jam. There is one or two dudes who would be awesome to start a band with, a harp player/guitarist/singer and a bassist, and there is a drummer who can beat the hell out of those skins, but nothing is set in stone.

[ze monsta]

You should try, can you sing?

[imgooley]

Can I? Yes. Can I do it well? Well I don't think so, but I've never heard my own voice through the ears of others, so I don't know.

[Beakwithteeth]

Record your voice and listen to it. Actually that will make you hate your voice WAY more because it will sound weird to you.

You don't have to be "good" at singing for blues anyway. You can be gruff and gravelly and not even melodic as long as you're passionate.

[imgooley]

Amen to that

[ze monsta]

But ya still gotta be a good singer...That's the difference between Howlin' Wolf and Mick Jagger IMO.

[Beakwithteeth]

What's wrong with Mick Jagger?

[ze monsta]

Great frontman. Awful singer.
He can be great, but he's got an incredible ability to ruin great performances.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GPbGNx4n3zc

[imgooley]

What's wrong with Mick Jagger?
I was wondering the same thing.

[Beakwithteeth]

I have dial-up so I can't watch that video but I know what you are talking about. He's inconsistent.

[imgooley]

On a lighter note

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2kotK9FNEYU

[Beakwithteeth]

Man it's times like these in the B & J forum that force me to post in the Pit....

[gopherthegreat]

the stones should all it quits. theyre ruining their legacy more than they already did by releasing that ****ty stuff like "miss you".

[Beakwithteeth]

Yeah, I know what you mean. But that's gotta be easy for us to tell them to do but from their perspective they enjoy making music and I can understand them wanting to continue.

[gopherthegreat]

it'd be fine for most bands, like neil young is still great in my opinion, but these guys look like death itself.

[imgooley]

Meh, I prefer older Stones (as in their music) to the stuff they did later, which is mostly what they play (I think).

Beggars' Banquet is my favorite album(Prodigal Son ftw).

[gopherthegreat]

i also prefer their older stuff. i dont like the later stuff at all.

[sre9981]

entertain me denizens of Blues and Jazz!

[gopherthegreat]

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/e/e7/Bitches_dont_know_where_were_dining.jpg

[imgooley]

entertain me denizens of Blues and Jazz!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=icLUJfD7fLo

[ze monsta]

I reckon the stones are better now than they've ever been (live + performance wise), so I don't see why they should stop, even if I find Mick Jagger irritating.

[Pink Zeptallica]

Great frontman. Awful singer.
He can be great, but he's got an incredible ability to ruin great performances.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GPbGNx4n3zc

He really did f*** that song up. Liked his dancing though.

Love bluesindex btw great videos

[ze monsta]

Yeah, some great stuff on that channel. That and kickingmule has loadsa great music up as well IMO.

[imgooley]

I'm hungry.

[ze monsta]

Go eat then!

[Dimebag22]

Go eat then!
Sounds like a logical solution :p:

[theneildeal]

me not so hungy. ive just spent 3 hours cooking a proper sunday roast (boo yah) and ate too much....

Now, im working on perfecting JM's neon. i basically have to make my thumb independent from the rest of my hand!

[imgooley]

I don't want to cook though...

[Dimebag22]

Go get some chips n00b.

[imgooley]

^I actually ended up with some Corn Nuts and a liter of Pepsi

[Dimebag22]

Fatty.

[imgooley]

^You can't get fat off a liter of pepsi and a bag of corn nuts!

[Dimebag22]

Yeah, I shouldn't be talking ether... I'm about to go get some chips and maybe a Coke. :p:

[GD_GC]

I just ate a Wendy's Spicy Chicken sandwhich, fattier and tastier than anything you guys are eating :p:

[imgooley]

^Those are really good. I loves my fried chicken (Yes, I am black)

[GD_GC]

^Those are really good. I loves my fried chicken (Yes, I am black)

:haha

[imgooley]

Fried Chicken+Black People= Shameless Humor.

Now, off to drink my red cool aid and smoke my menthol cigarettes.

[Dimebag22]

Them black dudes love their fried chicken. KFC is the best for chicken though :p:

[GD_GC]

Personally I hate KFC. It's so nasty and fake tasting. I much prefer Popeyes. mmmm good stuff.

[Dimebag22]

But do they have popcorn chicken!?

[GD_GC]

Probably, I haven't been there in forever :haha. But my dad can't eat KFC without puking later that night, so I just stay away from it too.

[imgooley]

Personally I hate KFC. It's so nasty and fake tasting. I much prefer Popeyes. mmmm good stuff.
That is the motha fuckin truf!!!!


They don't have popcorn chicken, but they have red beans and rice, and popcorn shrimp. Plus Cajun Fries. Those are THE best fries, ever.

[theneildeal]

What a surprise. North Americans talking about their favourite fast food restaurants! I try to give you all the benefit of the doubt, but you all play into the stereotype!

You just can't help yourselves....

http://i26.tinypic.com/f4fub7.jpg

[imgooley]

Go suck on a lime, Limey Bastard!!!!!!

[GD_GC]

What a surprise. North Americans talking about their favourite fast food restaurants! I try to give you all the benefit of the doubt, but you all play into the stereotype!

You just can't help yourselves....

http://i26.tinypic.com/f4fub7.jpg

:haha

Trust me, I am the absolute anti American stereotype. This is the 1st time I've had fast food in probably more than a month. I wish I lived in Europe so bad.. :sad:

[Dimebag22]

Last time I ate fast food was at Subway like a month ago.

But I did have maple syrup this morning... :p:

[theneildeal]

why do you want to live in europe? the french are here! and they're worse than the french canadians!

[GD_GC]

The lifestyle just sounds better and me and my family would just fit in more it seems like. I don't know, I think it would be sweet to live in Spain or England.

[Dimebag22]

I would go on a Eurotrip, but I wouldn't want to live there.

[imgooley]

America Ftw.

IDK, I bleed the red white and blue... Can't help it.

[theneildeal]

both nice places. although to fit in in spain or england, you need to like football (or what you incorrectly call soccer), and in england, if someone asks you for a fag, it doesn't mean that they're homosexually coming on to you.

[imgooley]

both nice places. although to fit in in spain or england, you need to like football (or what you incorrectly call soccer), and in england, if someone asks you for a fag, it doesn't mean that they're homosexually coming on to you.
It's not incorrect, it's our dialect. Go eat a scone and drink your earl grey :p:

<---- Likes to start fights.

[theneildeal]

we invented the game, so we should decide what to call it! Of course, the yanks want to be special, and call it something different

well, i suppose they got what they wanted. the whole world now thinks that americans are special

[imgooley]

American Football>Soccer
Baseball>Cricket
Basketball>Whatever the hell you Brits do in winter

[Dimebag22]

You gotta admit that American sports are way better than yours.

Plus I think that Soccer is the most boring sport ever! I just have a random grudge against soccer. :p:

[theneildeal]

American Football>Soccer
Baseball>Cricket
Basketball>Whatever the hell you Brits do in winter

Firstly, you can't compare american football to proper football. You can compare it to rugby. In rugby, you wear no padding and every player passes, tackles, kicks, and scores, whereas american footballers are only good at one particular aspect of the sport, and they have to wear padding in case they get a boo boo....

Baseball players are pumped full of steroids, and cricketers don't need gloves to help catch the ball

In the winter, we play football. In basketball, you aren't allowed to touch each other because these huge 7ft+ players are just big pansies...

Our sportsmen are real men.

[theneildeal]

You gotta admit that American sports are way better than yours.

Plus I think that Soccer is the most boring sport ever! I just have a random grudge against soccer. :p:

the problem with american sports is that the play is stopped every 10 seconds! Watching football is great, especially when you're at the stadium. The atmosphere is incredible, and the players are so taleneted

[imgooley]

^Basketball is WAY faster than soccer. No stops unless a basket is made.

College sports>Professional sports.

[theneildeal]

College sports>Professional sports.

That's because there is too much money in american sports. Once you go professional, you become so rich that you don't need to try any more.

[imgooley]

That's because there is too much money in american sports. Once you go professional, you become so rich that you don't need to try any more.
Unfortunately. I'm a HUGE college football fan. USC!!! GO TROJANS!!!!!!

[imgooley]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=R51MS4LkWaQ&feature=related

An interesting take on a classic. It's got a great groove.

[sre9981]

I need to start a blues/alternative-rock band, asap, so i can combine my love for badass blues players and the ability to play music that gets a crowd jumping.

[gopherthegreat]

soccer is the most boring sport i've ever seen. along with baseball, basketball, hockey, football, cricket, horse racing, nascar, golf, gymnastics, swimming, biking, boxing, skiing, snowboarding, fishing, climbing, volleyball, curling, pickleball, badminton, racquetball, skateboarding, ice skating, rugby, tennis, rodeo, track, handball, ping pong, softball, and surfing.

[aetherspear]

soccer is the most boring sport i've ever seen. along with baseball, basketball, hockey, football, cricket, horse racing, nascar, golf, gymnastics, swimming, biking, boxing, skiing, snowboarding, fishing, climbing, volleyball, curling, pickleball, badminton, racquetball, and surfing.

i disagree with some of those, and some of them you gotta do in order to enjoy. even nascar would be fun if you did it in the first place.

[gopherthegreat]

theres only one sport i like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak_polo

[aetherspear]

^can't argue there. although if you like that you may enjoy elephant polo as well
http://www.kantor.com/blog/elephant-thumb.jpg

[gopherthegreat]

i was just kidding in my post. i like playing a lot of those sports. i just dont like watching any sports, at all.

[imgooley]

Understandable, but I'm not an athlete anymore.^

[gopherthegreat]

i dont like organized sports leagues. i prefer to just play with my friends. i always hear people complaining about having practice, and i wonder why they do it if they're just gonna bitch about it.

[Beakwithteeth]

^ That's why I don't play any sports.

[aetherspear]

^yeah I played soccer for a really long time, but I'd much rather just juggle with some friends.

[imgooley]

On a funnier note, Richard Pryor is hilarious.

[Pink Zeptallica]

:haha

Trust me, I am the absolute anti American stereotype. This is the 1st time I've had fast food in probably more than a month. I wish I lived in Europe so bad.. :sad:
Nah stuff Europe come to australia

[imgooley]

Nah stuff Europe come to australia
Gear is so expensive there...

[Beakwithteeth]

On a funnier note, Richard Pryor is hilarious.

True that. He is one of the only comedians that uses a ton of race jokes that I like.

[imgooley]

^That's cuz he speaks the truf!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dfSwHxl28o&feature=related

[Pink Zeptallica]

Gear tis quite expensive but where you live, america I'm guessing, you buy all the stuff you want and bring it over?

BTW we do have classifieds I got my peavey classic 30 for $350 and thats pretty damn good! Oh and I would change it from aussie dollars to american but the american i so low that i'm not even going to bother.

[imgooley]

Damn you. I like the Classic 30, but I don't think I would get one. There is just something missing from the tone. I like the Delta Blues better.

I'm planning on getting a Blues Custom, though.

[Beakwithteeth]

Oh and I would change it from aussie dollars to american but the american i so low that i'm not even going to bother.

:haha





:sad: our poor economy.

[imgooley]

<--- Needs 500 bucks to get Blues Custom.

[Pink Zeptallica]

I was looking at getting the fender blues junior otherwise. That allways seemed to be too much probally because of the fender name to it.

[imgooley]

^True. That's why I'm getting an epi. I wouldn't mind having a Reverberocket or a vintage Silvertone, though.

Does anyone know the chords for Roadhouse Blues? It doesn't seem like a conventional 12 bar song.

[Beakwithteeth]

It sounds like it might be mostly on 1 chord to me.

EDIT: Until the "let it roll baby roll" part where I think you would get your IV and V.

[imgooley]

^Sounds like it's in G too.

Yeah, I think that's how it goes, now that I think about it.

[Beakwithteeth]

Yeah I suck at guessing keys so I wasn't even gonna try. If you cover that song with a band put the bass intro from Jeff Healey's version at the start for optimum awesomeness.

[imgooley]

^I haven't heard that version. The Ministry version is br00tal

[Dimebag22]

Jeff Healey is a beast.

[Beakwithteeth]

:haha Ministry did a version? Awesome

[Beakwithteeth]

Jeff Healey really is a beast. I had to discover him in the month that he died though :sad:

[imgooley]

:haha Ministry did a version? Awesome
It's freakin awesome. There's a link in this thread somewhere.

Here's my first little recording. Just my fooling around.

http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/imgooley/music/all/play317627

[Dimebag22]

Listen to his bends! They're crazy like 2 1/2 steps sometimes!

[imgooley]

Listen to his bends! They're crazy like 2 1/2 steps sometimes!
Did he down tune?

[Beakwithteeth]

I don't think he did, but he played in his lap so he might have been able to get better leverage or something.

[imgooley]

^Listen to my little recording.

[aetherspear]

^Jeff Healey usually bended with his thumb, so he had way more leverage than guys like us who use a few fingers.

[meh!]

He pulled, I think is the biggest point. Pulling a string is much easier