Blues and Jazz Off Topic/Chat Thread!

[Jackal58]

It's going. Hasn't been the greatest summer I've ever had but it hasn't been the worst either.

[JilaX^]

it's going fine man

having a good summer


hows life in Scandanavia lately?

Glad to hear, man!

Life is going really well, had one of the best summers ever.
Even though it's been raining like crazy the last few weeks...

[GnikNus]

^i've had one of the greatest summers ever myself, but it hasn't rained in 3 months :-o

[Jackal58]

It never rains in LaLaLand.

[Carswell98]

Glad to hear, man!

Life is going really well, had one of the best summers ever.
Even though it's been raining like crazy the last few weeks...

sweet man,

we've had some crazy weather here too, I kid you not, it was 30 degrees+ every day for 3 weeks with no rain, it's a little cooler now but we still haven't got any rain

the whole province is one spark away from giant bonfire...


makes for good swimming weather though :haha:

[imgooley]

what exactly are you building Goolz?

I got an old Yamaha SBG300 from a fellow forumite a few weeks back. It has a snapped neck, so I got a new one for it. Now, I just have to figure out how to get the old one off.

[strawforest007]

Good to hear you guys are all having good summers! And welcome back Braedon!

Ze, what's the news on the parlour guitar you found? Got it fixed yet?

Did anyone else here enter any tracks for the next UG Album competition in the Pit? Mine's up for the vote atm. Wish me luck!

[RubberSoul54321]

Didn't know about the album. Wouldn't have entered anyway mind. Good luck.

[ze monsta]

I haven't been over since we found it. He tells me it's holding tuning alright currently. I think he's gonna keep it the way it is, and maybe stick new tuners on eventually. :shrug:

[JilaX^]

sweet man,

we've had some crazy weather here too, I kid you not, it was 30 degrees+ every day for 3 weeks with no rain, it's a little cooler now but we still haven't got any rain

the whole province is one spark away from giant bonfire...


makes for good swimming weather though :haha:

:haha
Wow, that's hot!
We've had some warm days too, but damn...
Hot summers are always great.

Good to hear you guys are all having good summers! And welcome back Braedon!

Ze, what's the news on the parlour guitar you found? Got it fixed yet?

Did anyone else here enter any tracks for the next UG Album competition in the Pit? Mine's up for the vote atm. Wish me luck!

How about you how's your summer coming along? :)

Good luck!

[gilmourish]

Ze, what's the news on the parlour guitar you found? Got it fixed yet?

Mine's up for the vote atm. Wish me luck!

i'm playng it as we speak .. it holds tuning pretty well, will post pics if anyones interested. . .

[Jackal58]

i'm playng it as we speak .. it holds tuning pretty well, will post pics if anyones interested. . .
I am now confused.
Do you have a secret identity we all need to know about Gus?

[JilaX^]

Nope, the guitar belongs to Gus' friend, not Gus...

[ze monsta]

I have spies everywhere!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIQzVFTwIL8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeShNMkPecc&feature=quicklist
Hell yes.

[JilaX^]

Hell yes.

[JilaX^]

Hell.
Yes.

[strawforest007]

^ That footage of the Newport Folk Festival is incredble!

[Carswell98]

man I want high speed back

what is the vid Gus?

[ze monsta]

Son House, Skip James and Booker White at newport, Skip James playing Cherry Ball Blues. The second one is Booker White playing Strange Place Blues in 1940.

How've you been Braedon?

[JilaX^]

Btw, Gus. Why aren't you in the duels this round?

[ze monsta]

Because I can't record properly. I have a terrible built in mic in my laptop, but thats it. Money is tight. :o

[Carswell98]

Son House, Skip James and Booker White at newport, Skip James playing Cherry Ball Blues. The second one is Booker White playing Strange Place Blues in 1940.

How've you been Braedon?


alright, I have good weather to compensate for my appalling lack of money :haha:

I'm heading to Alberta to visit family tomorrow,



how are you man?

[ze monsta]

I'm pretty good. British weather is as strange as ever, it's sunshine in the morning, followed by light cloud, followed by heavy rain for 40 minutes, followed by blistering sunshine. :p: Oh the joys of a british summer! Hopefully I'll come into some money; after I get the results for the GCSEs I took early next week, but I'm not sure I particularly want my results... My maths teacher is gonna bollock me next year, I can tell you that. :p:

[JilaX^]

Because I can't record properly. I have a terrible built in mic in my laptop, but thats it. Money is tight. :o

Listen to the track I've entered. Recorded on a ****ty laptop mic too...

alright, I have good weather to compensate for my appalling lack of money :haha:

I'm heading to Alberta to visit family tomorrow,



how are you man?

:haha

****, man. Sounds rough... At least you've still got a sense of humor. :p:

Enjoy yourself!

I'm pretty good. British weather is as strange as ever, it's sunshine in the morning, followed by light cloud, followed by heavy rain for 40 minutes, followed by blistering sunshine. :p: Oh the joys of a british summer! Hopefully I'll come into some money; after I get the results for the GCSEs I took early next week, but I'm not sure I particularly want my results... My maths teacher is gonna bollock me next year, I can tell you that. :p:

The sad thing, is that the british summer has seemingly followed me over from ireland :mad:
We've had weather just like that alot this summer...

[ze monsta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGOF7tVFr3A Yes please.

[Highbinder]

Whats everyone been learning?

Me, Dallas by Johnny Winter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjcOSmmTTiE

http://www.slidingzone.de/SLIDINGZONE/JohnnyWinter/Dallas.html

[ze monsta]

I haven't been learning anything, I'm just relearning everything I've forgotten over the 3 and a half weeks I wasn't able to play guitar because of work being done in our house and everything be boxed up and then my guitarless holiday. :sad: Still, gives me an excuse as to why I'm sat at home not doing very much. :p: My guitar playing was dreadful when I came home, I couldn't play half as well as I could before I went away!

[JilaX^]

To be quite honest, I never sit down and learn songs...
I just listen to a lot of blues, and a lot of different players, and when I pick up the guitar it just comes out... I guess I just hear the licks enough untill it sort of feels natural, and then I play them, using the blues scale...
Am I alone in this? :o

The last thing I actually sat down to learn was some licks in this live cut, because they were driving me nuts...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4mMYqr__K0
Sean Costello - It's My Own Fault.

[ze monsta]

Anybody got any angry blues stuff, something that screams power and anger? I'm pissed off currently. MC5 and Iggy and The Stooges FTMFW.

[StratRat13]

Hey guys, was just wondering if any of the guys that used to be regulars are still around, haven't been back to the UG Blues forum in awhile.

[michaelscofield]

Sure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMHTw6yy8_o

[imgooley]

Anybody got any angry blues stuff, something that screams power and anger? I'm pissed off currently. MC5 and Iggy and The Stooges FTMFW.
Self-Medication Blues- Eyehategod :poke:


Also: Listen to some John Lee Hooker and Nashville Pussy. Some Von Bondies for good measure, too.

[carmour]

Anybody got any angry blues stuff, something that screams power and anger? I'm pissed off currently. MC5 and Iggy and The Stooges FTMFW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_rd8y8A2oE

I've probably linked it before but I reckon this ones angry as ****, his playing and singing are so raw and fiery

To be quite honest, I never sit down and learn songs...
I just listen to a lot of blues, and a lot of different players, and when I pick up the guitar it just comes out... I guess I just hear the licks enough untill it sort of feels natural, and then I play them, using the blues scale...
Am I alone in this? :o

The last thing I actually sat down to learn was some licks in this live cut, because they were driving me nuts...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4mMYqr__K0
Sean Costello - It's My Own Fault.

Yeah I do similar stuff kinda. I tend to go through phases of listening to a lot of the same guy in order to soak up his style, lately it's been the soloing style of T-Bone and the Chicago Blues rhythm used in muddy waters/little walters songs.. so many cool little things in their rhythm playing to learn man.

Sometimes play along with **** off itunes to learn to play between vocal lines and shiz. Mostly just lots of listening though..

[ze monsta]

Thanks for that Buddy Guy video, thats bloody amazing. :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8iaRy4uEj4&feature=sub :)

[carmour]

^ love that song, so many diff versions..

Otis Spann's bad ass gospel version - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pui2zoH2VlI
B.B. Kings blues version - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNCSzmmwC7E
Bessie Smiths original - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VKEKkTQU-k

John Mayer covered it ;) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NE_8ZCioM

[JilaX^]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_rd8y8A2oE

I've probably linked it before but I reckon this ones angry as ****, his playing and singing are so raw and fiery



Yeah I do similar stuff kinda. I tend to go through phases of listening to a lot of the same guy in order to soak up his style, lately it's been the soloing style of T-Bone and the Chicago Blues rhythm used in muddy waters/little walters songs.. so many cool little things in their rhythm playing to learn man.

Sometimes play along with **** off itunes to learn to play between vocal lines and shiz. Mostly just lots of listening though..


Glad to hear I'm not alone... Done the same, but still can't do the T-Bone style :haha

Robert Lockwood Jr. is truely the man. :cheers:

[strawforest007]

Hi guys,

Bought myself a new guitar at the weekend. I say new, it's an oldie. I've wanted one for years and suddenly decided to just get one (Hofner Verithin 1963/64):

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq84/strawforest007/hofner/montage.gif

If anyone wants more info then just ask. It's being registered on a couple of Hofner verithin websites too.

An absolute joy to play on. Works perfectly too. I'll probably get an mp3 up of it playing as soon as I can...

[JilaX^]

*Whistles*

That thang sure is puuu-rty, man.
Gotta love them ES-335 (And simmilar) style guitars.

[Carswell98]

oooh thats purdy

[RubberSoul54321]

Is that Hofner full or semi hollow? It's a beauty.

[strawforest007]

It's totally hollow, there's no solid block in these models so there's not much sustain but that's what I wanted. The old open gear tuners aren't the best but it stays in tune pretty well unless I do a few too many bends or overdo it with the Bigsby. For me it's the perfect rhythm guitar.

[ze monsta]

That's a really nice guitar :)

I had a guitar browsing, playing, perving day. It was good fun. :)

[RubberSoul54321]

It's totally hollow, there's no solid block in these models so there's not much sustain but that's what I wanted. The old open gear tuners aren't the best but it stays in tune pretty well unless I do a few too many bends or overdo it with the Bigsby. For me it's the perfect rhythm guitar.

Same as my Gretsch - lovely.

[strawforest007]

That's a nice Gretsch you have, although I'm personally more fond of the 'country gentleman' model!

I've got a vid up of me messing with the 'new' verithin hofner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTOPTbz-H8c

[RubberSoul54321]

A country Gent'd be nice but it's a bit out of my league. I've always fancied a White Falcon but the Electromatic will do me well.

Can't see the vid because I'm not on Facebook and can't be arsed signing up - stick it on Youtube if you've got time.

[strawforest007]

A country Gent'd be nice but it's a bit out of my league. I've always fancied a White Falcon but the Electromatic will do me well.

Can't see the vid because I'm not on Facebook and can't be arsed signing up - stick it on Youtube if you've got time.

White Falcons are beautiful! I've uploaded the vid to youtube and the link is in my earlier post^

[RubberSoul54321]

Dude, that is outstanding. If I'd a cap, I'd doff it.

[ze monsta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xUS30-RFf0

[Highbinder]

Guys..

If I tune my guitar relative to the recording of Hear My Train Comin' (the acoustic version) it ends up extremely flat, about 3 and a half semitones down from E, and it rattles my guitar like hell to try and play it even with these heavy gauge strings.

Anyone know how I can up the pitch of the recording but keep the tempo the same?

[carmour]

it's around C i think. Just learn it in E :X?

If you can't do it by ear you could just capo 8th fret

[Highbinder]

I learn best by playing along, so thats not really the best option IMO..

[JilaX^]

Well, there's not really a lot of opportunities. Either set up your guitar for that tune, or make as best of you can of the situation.

[carmour]

I learn best by playing along, so thats not really the best option IMO..

well tell me what a better option is bud? :haha:

[Highbinder]

Hunting around for videos of 12 string resonator guitars, I found..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqZHxhs14oo

Definately worth watching, goes through a bit of the restoration of the guitar, onto the guitar being played, then onto a bit about the restorer/maker, and then some random dude in what appears to be a dashiki plays a song..

/e: Found the website, the random dude is Louisiana Red http://www.michaelmesser.co.uk/fineReso.htm

[barefootboy]

Yesterday was the local music store's annual party and jam. 9+ hours of food, music, and friends, a good time was had by all. After the sun set and the lights came on, the jam really began. I've got a new song up, Wang Dang Doodle. http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/barefootboy/
It is live and after a few cocktails. The band was 3 guys 48+ years old and 2 young men 15 years old.

[michaelscofield]

3 guys 48+ years old and 2 young men 15 years old.

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/juice/chris%20hansen.jpg

[JilaX^]

No offense, but that's quite poor... Whoever's playing the harp is VERY VERY VERY sour.

What are those effects on the vocals? Kinda cool, kinda gimmicky.

[imgooley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqTZZRoxqYw

[carmour]

Yesterday was the local music store's annual party and jam. 9+ hours of food, music, and friends, a good time was had by all. After the sun set and the lights came on, the jam really began. I've got a new song up, Wang Dang Doodle. http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/barefootboy/
It is live and after a few cocktails. The band was 3 guys 48+ years old and 2 young men 15 years old.


Damn that jam makes me happy about how good the guys at my jam night are.. that guy can't sing very good can he :P?

I get to play with this guy http://www.myspace.com/davemurphyblues - crazy good fingerstyle blues player and awesome singer ;d

[barefootboy]

Damn that jam makes me happy about how good the guys at my jam night are.. that guy can't sing very good can he :P?

I get to play with this guy http://www.myspace.com/davemurphyblues - crazy good fingerstyle blues player and awesome singer ;d


He was singing thru another guys mic hooked up to a vocal processor (the harp got distorted too). Singing standard into a half step down processor kind of messes up. But he doesn't have the best voice. :haha:


edit: Dave can sing. Really cool that you get to play with him. (make me green around the edges)

[carmour]

yeah he's a legend of sorts around my parts, is a pleasure to play with people who are much much better than you hahaha

[sweeptehsweepz]

I'm looking solos and songs similar to the style of David Gilmour's recent solo album (On an Island).

I mean, yes his phrasing is beautiful on guitar and it's atleast IMHO, amazing on the sax too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJEBN2nH9ds

Just listen to that, its amazing

anyone know of similar songs?

[JilaX^]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lefeRYM5UQg = Perfect Strat tone.

So how're you all doing?

All the regulars are quiet...

[urik]

Yesterday was the local music store's annual party and jam. 9+ hours of food, music, and friends, a good time was had by all. After the sun set and the lights came on, the jam really began. I've got a new song up, Wang Dang Doodle. http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/barefootboy/
It is live and after a few cocktails. The band was 3 guys 48+ years old and 2 young men 15 years old.
That sounds great. I once went to the birthday of a 40 something years old blues bassist. There were many people, and we all had pizza for many hours and then all his musician friends started jamming. It was amazing. I joined too, but only after almost everyone left since I didn't really know the bassist and I wasn't very confident.

[hendrixfanatic]

I felt quite proud of myself yesterday: My cousin (who is 2 years younger, and the lead guitar player in my band) was listening to Howlin' Wolf, who he looked up because he saw an album I have by him!

I've gotten a seventeen year-old into Howlin' Wolf!

[imgooley]

^That's awesome.

I've yet to find anyone my age into the Wolf or Johnny Lee. I've been getting my best friend into Monk and Trane and Johnny Lee, but it's hard to get him off his usual haunt.

[JilaX^]

I'm 17 and a huge fan of both.

:cheers:

[stratoclap]

I've liked Wolf since I was 16, but I've honestly never heard of Johnny Lee, I'll check him out now

edit - haha just realized you meant JLH. Now I feel stupid :) He's not one of those guys that I can just listen to whenever, but I definitely hold him in high regards and respect the amount of emotion he could put through his music

[Bluesy...]

THE BLUES ARE AWESOME. Every time i pick up a guitar, i play a howlin' wolf song. Usually commit a crime, rock me baby, killing floor, or smokestack lightning

For the record I'm 17

[strawforest007]

Just as a low-key shout-out, any of you guys think it's worth reviving the unfinished UG Blues album (2), or creating a new project for one? The thread for the old one is still there but theneildeal (the album creator) hasn't posted for nearly a year, so I think it can be classified as dead. I've tried PM'ing him too but no reply. I was thinking it would be great to get it done before the new year. Could do with a few of your thoughts...(revive it/new one/leave it)?

[Iceman 420]

I think another Blues Album would be a good idea. With the duels going on, this forum actually has quite a bit of activity going, so we'll have more a chance for more tracks and such. As for reviving it or making a new one entirely, that's a toughie. We could just make a new thread and the people that had submitted tracks could decide whether or not they want to submit a new track or just want to use their old ones?

[theneildeal]

Hey, i haven't been here in about a year, and i thought i'd say hi. Hope you're all doing well.

[strawforest007]

lol! Hi Neil!! I rarely, if ever approve of a 'lol', but the timing of your return is uncanny.

Great to see you back Neil. UG Blues Album 2? The thread is still there for you.

...and how the devil are you? Doing a masters now?

[ze monsta]

Hey, i haven't been here in about a year, and i thought i'd say hi. Hope you're all doing well.
HEY. How have you been?

[theneildeal]

Hey, it's good to see that some of the regulars from my time are still here. But unfortunately, i won't be back for good. I've just popped in to say Hi. I left a year ago so that i could concentrate on my final year of uni, and it worked a treat. I now have a first class honours degree in international and financial economics. I'm just about to start a masters in financial economics, and i want to really concentrate on that. Straw, i won't be able to continue with the blues album, but please feel free to take it on. I don't have to the time to do it, so it would be great if you could. I had a virus on my computer, so i don't have any of the songs left, so i'm sure that you could get people to send you the songs.

But enough about me, how are you all doing? What's been going on in here recently?

[strawforest007]

I've PM'd you Neil, I'll get straight onto it after the current duels finish...

[barefootboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZqhCYO2s6s

Try this good old boy on for size.

[whitenihilist]

I think another Blues Album would be a good idea. With the duels going on, this forum actually has quite a bit of activity going, so we'll have more a chance for more tracks and such. As for reviving it or making a new one entirely, that's a toughie. We could just make a new thread and the people that had submitted tracks could decide whether or not they want to submit a new track or just want to use their old ones?


I would be more than down for making a track for a UG Blues Album.




Just sayin'.

[JilaX^]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZqhCYO2s6s

Try this good old boy on for size.

Bo. Ring.

Jesus, has the boy never heard of taste and holding back?
He sounds like a country player gone wild, not a blues player.

[ze monsta]

^Indeed. was dull as all ****. And sickening to look at, to be frank.

[barefootboy]

^Indeed. was dull as all ****. And sickening to look at, to be frank.


I lived outside Dallas in the early 60's and can't believe that he was the closing act for a Texas blues festival. It seems like there were a lot better players out there. I was wondering if I missed something.

[JilaX^]

Seems like someone else missed something too :haha

[barefootboy]

It wasn't dinner.

[ze monsta]

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202659
Check it bitches ;)

[JilaX^]

Congratulations dude, looks sweet!
Now all we need are some clips ;)

[RubberSoul54321]

Tried out a Seymour Duncan Tweak Fuzz today at a shop in Belfast. Seriously considering it, some really good tones outta that thing. Pretty reasonable price too - £90. Also tried a Toadworks Mad Dog Fuzz which was cool but there's no tone control so it's not as versatile. It was going for £60.

[ze monsta]

Big Muffz all the way :) I'm loving my muff right now. I really want a hollowbody for the bluez and shoegazing/alternative stuffz. I dislike all you people with semi-hollows/hollowbodies. I'm looking at you RubberSoul.

[RubberSoul54321]

I've already got a Big Muff - want a new toy for something different. And yeah, hollows / semis are feckin sweet.

[strawforest007]

What's everyone up to?

This place has died quite a bit!

[ze monsta]

I'm so busy now. but I'm also so lazy, so it doesn't work too well. I'm spending so much time with only a few people, i really like it. I love my close friends. :)

In other news, guess who got tickets for Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton?

[JilaX^]

Being lazy. It's fall break! :D
Hahah, you bastard. For Jeff Beck, that is. Clapton is just a wanker these days. Barely seen him play anything worthwhile since the mid 90s.

I'm seeing The Cumshots + Electric Eel Shock next weekend ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Qugtp90NU
The Cumshots - I Drink Alone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61CDE_lRIJk
The Cumshots - Praying For Cancer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7eQjLrgmdI
Electric Eel Shock - Rock'n'Roll Can Save The World

[RubberSoul54321]

I just booked tickets for Joe Bonamassa in December :)

[TNfootballfan62]

^I just missed him last month in Memphis.

[ze monsta]

I'm seeing The Datsuns again on tuesday :) They're gigs are always really full on and great fun.

[carmour]

The Datsuns are mint... one of the best NZ bands out there atm X_X

[JilaX^]

Saw Bonamassa this summer, all the way in the front.
He was good, but I must say I prefer him the way he was about 6 years ago.
He's become a lot less of a blues guitarist, and more of a "virtuoso" in the same sense as Satriani etc. (A lot more tasteful, ofc. But, you get the point I'm trying to make)

[TNfootballfan62]

Yeah, if I would've been more impressed with his last album, I would've made the trip to go see him, but I didn't care too much for The Ballad of John Henry.

[JilaX^]

Well, I enjoyed the album, and some of the tracks are certainly worthwhile.
But, overall. I dunno. He's just not at the same level he used to be.

[Carswell98]

Well, I enjoyed the album, and some of the tracks are certainly worthwhile.
But, overall. I dunno. He's just not at the same level he used to be.



I kind of agree, it seems like he' s afraid to cut loose, he says he's matured as a musician, I say he's sort of lost the fire :( if he made albums as good as he plays live shows, I'd be a lot happier with him as a musician

he's still one of my favorite guitar players though, but Steffen Schackinger has recently climbed above him.




So whats up guys?

[JilaX^]

I kind of agree, it seems like he' s afraid to cut loose, he says he's matured as a musician, I say he's sort of lost the fire :( if he made albums as good as he plays live shows, I'd be a lot happier with him as a musician

he's still one of my favorite guitar players though, but Steffen Schackinger has recently climbed above him.



So true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiw1XAb8G9A
Listen at 2:20 and out, it's just not the same. It's just.... Not the blues :sad:
I still like it, just. Not quite as much.

Listen to this Blues Deluxe version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzRYfhT6DxU

The fire and passion just isn't there.
Add to the mix that he didn't play "Stop" the track on the new album that really pulled it all together for me, I was kinda disappointed. Still blew my mind, just not in the same way.

So whats up guys?
Fall break :cheers:
Laziness and relaxation all around :haha:

[RubberSoul54321]

I'm not a massive fan but I've never seen him live before so I thought I should. I like enough of his stuff to think it's gonna be a good night.

[Carswell98]

Fall break :cheers:
Laziness and relaxation all around :haha:


Fall Break? :confused:

your school system must be different over there

[pak1351]

I liked the ballad of john henry :shrug: My mom bought tickets for a show in December, but it's during finals for me

[JilaX^]

Fall Break? :confused:

your school system must be different over there

Different, and awesome.

How're you doing, man?

[Carswell98]

I'm alright, still spinning my wheels a bit but :shrug:



so, any americans in here care to weigh in on socialized medicine?

just curious

[JilaX^]

I'm alright, still spinning my wheels a bit but :shrug:



so, any americans in here care to weigh in on socialized medicine?

just curious

Well, that's good. I guess....


From what I can see (Following various medias and reading the Political Party section of Harmony Central.) It's mainly a matter of Republicans struggling with tooth and nail to fight back against anything Obama tries, because it's "Socialist".

Considering how a lot of them have nothing against medicare, it becomes quite an ironic thing, seeing them yell against it, presenting Obama as hitler, it's just. Bizzarre, and a clear result of entertainment and information being dangerously mixed.

:shrug:

[TNfootballfan62]

^That's a bit of an exaggeration, I think.

Republicans understand that health care needs reform, but think that attempting to socialize it, or even introducing a public option, are bad solutions--and they have some great points. The current bill is incredibly costly, and it's something most fiscal conservatives don't think we should try to pay for with higher taxes, especially considering the economic atmosphere. Not to mention the freedoms it could potentially take away from the physician and the patient.

This public option idea was tried in my home state, Tennessee. We called it TennCare, and it failed miserably. It became too costly to sustain, and it's been nearly done away with at this point.

And on the point of failed policy, you brought up medicare. I'm not sure you can find a conservative who has nothing against medicare. Medicare is a failing system. Medicare and Social Security in general are going bankrupt, and are putting America in a very tough place. Anyone who has the least bit of sense can see that these are failing institutions, and certainly not ideas to base further health care reform off of.

Republicans suggest some free market solutions, such as making interstate health insurance available (health care is currently available on state-by-state basis) to open up more competition and drive down prices, among other things.

[Jackal58]

^What he said. I'm Republican. I have no objections to a national health care plan. I actually support the idea. I just have zero faith in the US governments ability to actually administer it.

Hi guys! :wavey: How's everybody? I'm going to go see Savoy Brown a week from Saturday. Should be fun.

[Carswell98]

^
:haha:

is that because you take issue with the current administration or because you just lack faith in your government to do it in general?

[TNfootballfan62]

Personally, I lack faith in any government composed of a few individuals to make decisions for me (and, in turn, every other individual) when I'm fully capable of making decisions for myself. Here's a quote that touches on that:

"From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else?" - Ronald Reagan

[carmour]

Personally, I lack faith in any government composed of a few individuals to make decisions for me (and, in turn, every other individual) when I'm fully capable of making decisions for myself. Here's a quote that touches on that:

"From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else?" - Ronald Reagan

If you don't have faith in governments composed of elected officials, what alternative would you have faith in? Self-governance? Anarchy? Communism? Genuinely interested on where you stand...

Also, it's ironic that you cite a quote from a democratically elected official to explain your lack of faith in democratically elected officials.

Elected officials don't make every waking decision for you, and the decisions they do make for you are supposed to be made in your best interest, or in the best interests of the majority/consensus. Now if you want to argue the difference between what's 'supposed to happen' and what 'really happens', then be my guest, I'll be the first to say democracy is a flawed system; but it's the lesser evil IMO.

I mean, how do you propose things like the economy, health care, welfare systems, foreign policy, tourism, and other things that are bigger than any individual (note, things that concern a large number of people with MUTUAL INTERESTS) are handled if not by elected representatives? Sure, the world is made up of individuals, and we all should have individual rights and liberties that should be guaranteed, but individuals also live together in societies which need some form of governance in order to balance the needs/wants/opinions/actions of individuals for the greater good of the society as a whole.

[michaelscofield]

Aw come on TNfootballfan62, of all the failed faux-conservatives you could quote-- Reagan? Really? :(

I do feel bad for y'all down south with only two incredibly bad parties to realistically choose from; at least here we have several that range from almost decent to somewhat fudged up ;) And dirty politics here is dissing the party leader's sweater or sorry attempt at looking like he knows how to fish. Forreal.

I'm still holding out for the pro-legalization of narcotics, pro-let whomever marry or shag whom or whatever the eff they want, limited government with strong regulations, pro-gun rights, hardcore pro-science, emphatic and proud nonbeliever candidate/party. Some mistakenly correlated a few of these principles with libertarians and the laughable Ron Paul, but then actually realized how batshiet they are as well.

Aw well, back to the drawing board...

[TNfootballfan62]

No, don't think I support Anarchy. :haha

Democracy is a great system, IMO. I think America's Constitution set up a fantastic system of government. One in which the roles of the federal government are clearly laid out. One of the most important roles is to protect individual freedom. You know, freedom to make my own decisions about what to do with my money, where to get my healthcare, etc, etc. ;)

Elected officials don't make every waking decision for me, but it seems to be the trend of the government to interfere more and more into the individual's life.

I think the economy, health care, and things like that are best sorted out in the private sector. I'm a big fan of free markets. Welfare? Welfare is the same way. I think private charity is the best way to handle welfare. I'd rather see private charity handle welfare than the government take from people who earn money to give it to people that don't. That's obviously going to be something that most people disagree with me on, but that's my answer to that.

Foreign policy fits into protecting rights. That's one of the roles of federal government--to protect the nation from foreign threats.

I'd love to keep this conversation going, but these things turn ugly. ;)

[carmour]

No, don't think I support Anarchy. :haha

Democracy is a great system, IMO. I think America's Constitution set up a fantastic system of government. One in which the roles of the federal government are clearly laid out. One of the most important roles is to protect individual freedom. You know, freedom to make my own decisions about what to do with my money, where to get my healthcare, etc, etc. ;)

On paper America's constitution looks pretty awesome, it's just putting it into practice that's the issue >.<. Protection of individual freedoms are important sure, but there's always a limit to these things. Eg. if one persons freedoms encroach on others freedoms, or break laws of the states/federal govt. What if yours and others decision to keep privatized health care means that lower income groups are disadvantaged when it comes to health care, and because of this have a lower life expectancy? I'm just sayin', it's easy to want privatized healthcare if you and your family are rich and white. It's easy to not worry about benefits and welfare if your families rich and white.

I think the economy, health care, and things like that are best sorted out in the private sector. I'm a big fan of free markets. Welfare? Welfare is the same way. I think private charity is the best way to handle welfare. I'd rather see private charity handle welfare than the government take from people who earn money to give it to people that don't. That's obviously going to be something that most people disagree with me on, but that's my answer to that.

Foreign policy fits into protecting rights. That's one of the roles of federal government--to protect the nation from foreign threats.

To me, making a health care system (something which should be a given to all tax payers in any modern democratic society) privatized puts peoples lives and well being at the mercy of the inequalities created by capitalism.. lives and well being aren't something which should be left to the free market. Private charity cannot handle welfare, it would never get enough revenue/donations to provide a sufficient safety net to reduce poverty/unemployment/inequality.

I'd love to keep this conversation going, but these things turn ugly. ;)

I don't get why people are so anti-political discussions. Some people are capable of having discussions without turning them into arguments/personal flame wars. And that whole anarchist/communist thing was in jest obviously ;P

Rather than saying flat out that government intervention is bad or good, why not look at what the type of intervention is, weigh up the effects that it will have, and then decide whether those effects are bad or good?

Saying you want welfare in the free markets is essentially saying you don't want it at all, because there's no way to make a profit from it. Most things which are essential and not profitable in money terms are usually handled by the federal/state govt. In my mind Welfare is a way to even out the inequalities in standard of living and income that are created by the free market.

[TNfootballfan62]

On paper America's constitution looks pretty awesome, it's just putting it into practice that's the issue >.<. Protection of individual freedoms are important sure, but there's always a limit to these things. Eg. if one persons freedoms encroach on others freedoms, or break laws of the states/federal govt. What if yours and others decision to keep privatized health care means that lower income groups are disadvantaged when it comes to health care, and because of this have a lower life expectancy? I'm just sayin', it's easy to want privatized healthcare if you and your family are rich and white. It's easy to not worry about benefits and welfare if your families rich and white.

One person's freedoms encroaching on another's is handled by there being a crime system. If you do something like steal from a person, you're encroaching on their freedom, so you're punished for it.

In America, no one is restricted from health care. If you need it, you go to the emergency room, and they must treat you whether you have insurance or not. So it's not like we lock the poor out of hospitals and refuse to treat them. Health insurance is costly, sure, but that's something that can be fixed. If health care can be made more affordable by freeing up the market, it can be made more available to more people. I think this is a better alternative than moving in the other direction--one where we overtax the wealthy to provide for the poor, and lock in what doctors can earn for their services. In my opinion, this infringes on the rights of the rich to their property. It does not infringe on the rights of the poor to work hard and obtain the property necessary to get the same health care. We all have equal opportunity in America, not equal reward. It also hurts quality of health care, based on the idea of rational self interest--many doctors won't be doctors if the reward they expect for their labor isn't there.

And if you're assuming I'm rich, you're wrong. I've been very poor before, and my family worked hard, and moved into the middle class. Right now, I'm a struggling college student. If you're assuming I'm white, you're right, but I fail to see what bearing race has on this discussion.


To me, making a health care system (something which should be a given to all tax payers in any modern democratic society) privatized puts peoples lives and well being at the mercy of the inequalities created by capitalism.. lives and well being aren't something which should be left to the free market. Private charity cannot handle welfare, it would never get enough revenue/donations to provide a sufficient safety net to reduce poverty/unemployment/inequality.

It's hard to argue that private charity can truly thrive in a free market, although it does in many instances. And while I don't know exactly what to do about welfare, my biggest problem with it is that it provides for the lazy as much as it does for the needy. I am for helping those in need. I'm not for helping those who won't work. At the end of the day, I truly believe you can be successful in America with hard work. And like I alluded to before, we do still give health care to everyone in America. You can go into an emergency room and receive care no matter who you are, or how much money you have.



I don't get why people are so anti-political discussions. Some people are capable of having discussions without turning them into arguments/personal flame wars. And that whole anarchist/communist thing was in jest obviously ;P

Rather than saying flat out that government intervention is bad or good, why not look at what the type of intervention is, weigh up the effects that it will have, and then decide whether those effects are bad or good?

Saying you want welfare in the free markets is essentially saying you don't want it at all, because there's no way to make a profit from it. Most things which are essential and not profitable in money terms are usually handled by the federal/state govt. In my mind Welfare is a way to even out the inequalities in standard of living and income that are created by the free market.

I actually quite enjoy a civilized political debate, they just don't usually stay that way. :p:

[carmour]

In America, no one is restricted from health care. If you need it, you go to the emergency room, and they must treat you whether you have insurance or not. So it's not like we lock the poor out of hospitals and refuse to treat them. Health insurance is costly, sure, but that's something that can be fixed. If health care can be made more affordable by freeing up the market, it can be made more available to more people. I think this is a better alternative than moving in the other direction--one where we overtax the wealthy to provide for the poor, and lock in what doctors can earn for their services. In my opinion, this infringes on the rights of the rich to their property. It does not infringe on the rights of the poor to work hard and obtain the property necessary to get the same health care. We all have equal opportunity in America, not equal reward. It also hurts quality of health care, based on the idea of rational self interest--many doctors won't be doctors if the reward they expect for their labor isn't there.

No one's restricted, but you sure think twice about going to the doctors if it's going to put you heavily in debt. Scaring people away from health services with huge bills isn't conducive to creating a healthy, working population. And come on man, you really believe that everyone in America has equal opportunity? Who's a law firm going to hire, a man with a criminal record due to growing up in a ****ty crime filled neighbourhood (much higher rate of committing) or a man with a clean slate who went to Harvard paid for by his parents. Seriously.. in reality, some are more equal than others ;). Don't get me wrong, working towards equality should be encouraged, but people aren't created equal. Socio-economic/psychological effects of upbringing, where you grow up, what race you are, what gender you are, the wealth of your family etc all dictate the opportunities you will have in your life time.

And if you're assuming I'm rich, you're wrong. I've been very poor before, and my family worked hard, and moved into the middle class. Right now, I'm a struggling college student. If you're assuming I'm white, you're right, but I fail to see what bearing race has on this discussion.

No one is rich at the age of 19/20 (bar freak occurrences). I wasn't calling you rich, I'm more making the assumption that you haven't had to worry too much about whether there will be food on your plate, or that your parents and you are reasonably comfortable with the necessities to live above the poverty line.

While I don't know exactly what to do about welfare, my biggest problem with it is that it provides for the lazy as much as it does for the needy. I am for helping those in need. I'm not for helping those who won't work. At the end of the day, I truly believe you can be successful in America with hard work. And like I alluded to before, we do still give health care to everyone in America. You can go into an emergency room and receive care no matter who you are, or how much money you have.


True, there will always be incentive to try and scam your way into a welfare benefit, but this can be minimized pretty easily by setting up procedures and requirements for eligibility to welfare programs.

I tend to disagree with the idea that anyone "can be successful in America with hard work" for several reasons. The constitution guarantees the right to the pursuit of happyness, key word, "pursuit". As good as this sounds, there's a reason the word 'pursuit' was added. Not everyone can be successful, and not everyone is equal in America. Some people are born into wealth and have trust funds, lives laid out for them before they're even born.. others are accidents born into broken homes with single parents and grow up below the poverty line. These things matter. As good as it sounds to say "we are all born equal" and all that fun stuff, it just isn't true. Privatizing health care is obviously going to hurt the poor more than it will the rich, they end up paying more, as a percentage of their income, to stay healthy and alive. Sure, rich people pay a higher tax % on their income, but really, whats more important, improving the well being of the nation by reducing unemployment, % of people living below the poverty line, and reducing crime through tackling socio-economic problems (direct link between these and crime statistics), or the rich guys new LCD screen or BMW?

Personally I'm not a huge fan of governments as well, but being realistic, they're the lesser of the evils. Capitalism/free market ideologies and welfare/socialist ideologies don't tend to correlate well, but if you look at welfare like a business investment in the future workers of the country, it does seem to correlate pretty well :].

[Carswell98]

I'm sorry I even brought up politics...

JilaX^

I was reading about Norway in the paper today, and I've decided my family was wrong to leave, your country like, actually works... :haha:

I wish the canadian government could take some cues from yours

[JilaX^]

In America, no one is restricted from health care. If you need it, you go to the emergency room, and they must treat you whether you have insurance or not. So it's not like we lock the poor out of hospitals and refuse to treat them. Health insurance is costly, sure, but that's something that can be fixed. If health care can be made more affordable by freeing up the market, it can be made more available to more people. I think this is a better alternative than moving in the other direction--one where we overtax the wealthy to provide for the poor, and lock in what doctors can earn for their services. In my opinion, this infringes on the rights of the rich to their property. It does not infringe on the rights of the poor to work hard and obtain the property necessary to get the same health care. We all have equal opportunity in America, not equal reward. It also hurts quality of health care, based on the idea of rational self interest--many doctors won't be doctors if the reward they expect for their labor isn't there.

This little tidbit right there, is wrong.

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/45000-excess-deaths-annually-linked-lack-health-insurance-harvard-study-25293.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE58G6W520090917

45,000 deaths PER YEAR have been linked to lack of health insurance.
These are the people that would benefit from the Health Care reform presented by the democrats. But, I guess that would be wrong in some manner?

I'm sorry I even brought up politics...

JilaX^

I was reading about Norway in the paper today, and I've decided my family was wrong to leave, your country like, actually works... :haha:

I wish the canadian government could take some cues from yours

:haha

Well, it's true it actually works.
I guess that's what you get for having a socialdemocratic/socialist government, eyh? :p:



And a ****ton of oil...

[ze monsta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXirNblcteg

[Carswell98]

wow this place is dead

[JilaX^]

Ridiculously so. :sad:

[ze monsta]

Evening fellas. How have you guys been? I'm so bogged down with coursework. :sad:

I'm off on D of E expedition tomorrow so won't be around for a bit.

[Carswell98]

aww

it used to be so fun :sad:

[JilaX^]

I'm doing allright...
The snow came today, though... :sad:

I've got quite a bit of coursework myself, but it's my last year, so I'll survive :haha

Also, we should revive this place.
Somehow.

[Carswell98]

so I turn 20 on saturday, and I don't know what to do


any suggestions?

[michaelscofield]

Be glad you've made it at least that far.

[Carswell98]

:haha:


is that a threat? :mad:

[JilaX^]

:haha

The usual answer would be: "Get drunk of your ass." I guess.
But, I don't know. Hang around with loved ones and friends, I guess?
Treat yourself to something nice :p:

[Jimmy94]

don't know if you guys are fans of rap/hip hop but I picked up Raekwon's new disc only built 4 cuban linx pt. II and it is the best album of the year imo

[Jackal58]

so I turn 20 on saturday, and I don't know what to do


any suggestions?
Happy birthday Braedon. You could do what I did when I turned 20. :cheers:

[Carswell98]

Happy birthday Braedon. You could do what I did when I turned 20. :cheers:


thanks :cheers:



what did you do?

[Jackal58]

I don't remember. That's how I know it was fun. :cheers:

[Carswell98]

I don't remember. That's how I know it was fun. :cheers:


:haha:


that is what it's looking like right now, gonna just head to the pub with a bunch of friends

[strawforest007]

:haha:


that is what it's looking like right now, gonna just head to the pub with a bunch of friends

Can I suggest an 'admiral' as your first drink at the bar? An evil concoction of 4 vodkas and redbull (ice optional). Yes it's disgusting, or rather a distinguished taste - lightly put. An excellent kick-start to the evening though even for a mere real ale and sherry drinker...

[JilaX^]

I'm slightly drunk, eating potato chips, just spent hours with mates, and ended up discussing music with some random (rather old) guy for hours at the pub we usually hang out at.
Awesome.

Sometimes, life works out, even without your gf there. :D

[ze monsta]

I got back from walking 60km in three days, and 6:30hrs cannooeing yesterday, and 2:30hr today... Im tired, to put it lightly. I'm a really fit person, but that killed me :sad:

[JilaX^]

Damn.....
It's what I've been telling people, all that physical activity. It ain't good for ya!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvFsvmoUsnI&feature=related

Also, why can't I play the guitar like this? :sad:
It's unfair ;)

[Jackal58]

Savoy Brown was awesome. I remember the 1st time I saw them. There were no old people there at all. They must have gotten more popular with an older audience. Almost everybody there was over 50
:p:

[Carswell98]

Can I suggest an 'admiral' as your first drink at the bar? An evil concoction of 4 vodkas and redbull (ice optional). Yes it's disgusting, or rather a distinguished taste - lightly put. An excellent kick-start to the evening though even for a mere real ale and sherry drinker...

I ended up having a flaming lamborghini as my first drink, it was pretty awesome :p:

[ze monsta]

Hey Brae :) Whats good?

[Carswell98]

whats good?


sex, automobiles, new guitars, Edgar Wright movies, and some other stuff?


hows life Gus?

[ze monsta]

It's not so bad I guess. Work is piling up as procrastination takes place... :p: But yeah. Although my relationship with my best friend is really complicated... her boyfriend was insulting me on facebook, and then she said she liked me more than him... which made everyone go :wtf: including me...

:wtf:

[Carswell98]

whoa, I could see how that might make things a little awkward

[JilaX^]

Ahhh, teenage drama.

:cheers:

[ze monsta]

It's the best type of drama :haha

[JilaX^]

Indeed :haha

Although, you do get tired of it quickly.

[barefootboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsnXQ99RX7k

[JilaX^]

Saw Super Chikan this year, in fact saw a private concert with him jamming with a Norwegian guitarist for half an hour or so. There were like 20-30 people there, so it was really intimate. Just him playing one of his homebuilt electrics through an AC30 and the other guy on acoustic.

Funny ass guy, loads of great stories and tunes. :cheers:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJsfoLX4xt8
Kicking myself for not having been able to see Sean before his passing, so bad...

[barefootboy]

Sean did a great version of "Talk To Your Daughter". That boy sure could play. And died way too young.

[JilaX^]

Sean did a great version of "Talk To Your Daughter". That boy sure could play. And died way too young.

Oh yeah, that thing smoked.
So did he, was all over the place.

I'd say boy too, but ****, he was older than me :haha
(atleast at the peak of his playing, which, imo, was at around 27-28.)
Man, imagine where he could've taken his playing.

[barefootboy]

I'd loved to see where his playing went. Hendrix is another one that I would have loved to see where his playing went.

[JilaX^]

Yup.
The problem is that these people are all hyped up, because of their deaths.
I don't know.
Personally, I would've liked to see where Stevie was heading.
His playing was becoming more and more his own thing, not sounding some much like Albert King, etc. And then, he dies.

Typical. :haha

[strawforest007]

Rory Gallagher for me is one I would love to know what could've been. He'd reinvented himself a few years before passing involving himself in much more acoustic rootsy, folk, celtic and african sounds, yet still belted out his blues and blues/rock in his live shows. I love that man.

I'd always imagined Hendrix to later delve into electronica of some kind, or creating wildly diverse albums of all genres including non-guitar efforts, such was his creativity. Certainly would've seen him ditch the guitar at some point, then an old Hendrix I guess would go back to touring his old hits, back to the roots again. We can all dream!

There are so many 'what ifs?' not only in music but life, it's untrue.

[JilaX^]

That is so true...

Hendrix putting down the guitar, however. I doubt it.
The man was immersed in the blues, particularly Buddy Guy. And I sincerely doubt he'd ever put that down.

You might've seen him collaborating with Buddy at some point. Which would've been fantastic to see......



And Rory, I totally agree.
What a guy. You gotta love his acoustic blues aswell... "Too Much Alcohol" "Nothing But The Devil" are probably my favourite tracks of his.

[barefootboy]

Rory is another one, but it may be a blessing. We don't have to see a bloated shell of their former selves touring and poorly playing old hits from 30 years ago. I still wonder what might have been.

[ze monsta]

Slow times in the B+J forum.

[michaelscofield]

^^ That's quite the innuendo there, young man. :D

Why don't we share some of our favourite bluesy/jazzified licks and shtuff? Quick tab of it, whether your own or name the artist+song and if you wouldn't mind, the point in time in the song. I know I'm always interested in little tidbits I haven't heard before, and there's usually some lesser known stuff in this thread, some of which is quite enjoyable. I won't irritate the thread if no one else is on board, though...

[JilaX^]

E ------------------------------------17~-----15p12
B ------------12--13--14--15--(17)---------- --15s16s15p13--15-13b
G 9--11--14----------------------------------- -------------- -------14--14--14~~~~

A fairly quick Jazz-Blues thing in A.
A way to go from A Major (B.B King type stuff,) to minor.

It doesn't quite make sense in tab, but this is as close as I got it.
My own little ditty.

[Carswell98]

oddly enough, as my tastes change and I try new licks, one lick always remains the same, and it consists of one note :haha:

before you laugh its the way the note has to be played that is important, listen to any Albert collins song and you'll hear it, he'll just hit that root note in the second position of the minor scale and make it scream with tons of vibrato, it always gets me :shrug:

key of A

e---------------------------------------------------------------------------
b------------10~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-----------------
g--------------------------------------------------------------------------
d-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
a--------------------------------------------------------------------------
e--------------------------------------------------------------------------


:haha:

I'll post something a little more involveed later :p:

[JilaX^]

:haha

No need to tab that one out though, eyh?
That's in all of our playing anyways. I think/hope.

[Carswell98]

^ yeah... wow

oddly enough, as my tastes change and I try new licks, one lick always remains the same, and it consists of one note :haha:

before you laugh its the way the note has to be played that is important, listen to any Albert collins song and you'll hear it, he'll just hit that root note in the second position of the minor scale and make it scream with tons of vibrato, it always gets me :shrug:

key of A

e---------------------------------------------------------------------------
b------------10~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-----------------
g--------------------------------------------------------------------------
d-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
a--------------------------------------------------------------------------
e--------------------------------------------------------------------------


:haha:

I'll post something a little more involveed later :p:


this is my brain on a whole pot of coffee :bonk:

[JilaX^]

^ yeah... wow




this is my brain on a whole pot of coffee :bonk:

:haha :haha :haha

If that's you on a pot of coffee, I want to see you post drunk! :p:

[Carswell98]

:haha :haha :haha

If that's you on a pot of coffee, I want to see you post drunk! :p:


the sad thing is, it'd probably be more normal than that, unless I was very drunk, in which case I couldn't type :p:

seriously, once I get enough caffeine in me, it's like someone turns off the switch that keeps me from going insane :haha :haha

[TNfootballfan62]

Gov't Mule's new CD is out today, if anyone hadn't heard. :cheers:

[Carswell98]

thanks, I hadn't

[ze monsta]

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1223346
Vote freedom. Vote Don.

[Elitetone]

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[Carswell98]

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1223346
Vote freedom. Vote Don.


might as well, that isn't even a contest, who would you rather be president, some 17 year old who is way too full of himself, or Don?

oppose him, and suffer the dead skunk in a bag that is his wrath! :haha:


edit-

how was halloween btw guys?

[JilaX^]

might as well, that isn't even a contest, who would you rather be president, some 17 year old who is way too full of himself, or Don?

oppose him, and suffer the dead skunk in a bag that is his wrath! :haha:


I take offence to that! :mad:


edit-

how was halloween btw guys?


Well. on friday i got drunk at a friends house while listening to vinyls. :cool:
Abbey Road is a damn fine album.


How about you?

[Jackal58]

I take offence to that! :mad:




Well. on friday i got drunk at a friends house while listening to vinyls. :cool:
Abbey Road is a damn fine album.


How about you?
I'm sure it wasn't aimed at you. ;)
Thanks Gus, thanks Braedon. :cheers: You guys were hilarious.

[Carswell98]

I take offence to that! :mad:




definitely not aimed at you man, :cheers:

Well. on friday i got drunk at a friends house while listening to vinyls. :cool:
Abbey Road is a damn fine album.


How about you?

Abbey Road is a damn fine album

I got very drunk, dressed up as a zombie, and went to the bar with a bunch of friends, it was fun

[JilaX^]

I'm sure it wasn't aimed at you. ;)
Thanks Gus, thanks Braedon. :cheers: You guys were hilarious.

I know it wasn't :haha
Too bad about the loss... Kensai really couldn't be expected to lose. Too many fanboys.

definitely not aimed at you man, :cheers:

I figured. I usually don't fit into that group. :p:

Abbey Road is a damn fine album

I got very drunk, dressed up as a zombie, and went to the bar with a bunch of friends, it was fun

It's fucking brilliant, is what it is. A lot of the songs are bluesy as hell, too.

:haha
Awesome. I didn't dress up. Norway doesn't have a lot of tradition for Halloween... :sad:
Apparantly I was so out of it by the end of Friday night, some of my friends thought I'd been smoking pot in the bathroom...... :haha

[Carswell98]

It's fucking brilliant, is what it is. A lot of the songs are bluesy as hell, too.

I know, it's definitely my favorite album, I Want You (She's So Heavy) is awesome

:haha
Awesome. I didn't dress up. Norway doesn't have a lot of tradition for Halloween... :sad:
Apparantly I was so out of it by the end of Friday night, some of my friends thought I'd been smoking pot in the bathroom...... :haha

sounds like fun, so like... do you guys actually celebrate halloween or not?

I wouldn't call what's done in canada tradition, it's all pretty fake :shrug:

lol, my friends just put up a pic of me on facebook

I was already pretty drunk at this point :haha

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/carswell98/15933_214276966112_511901112_456858.jpg

[ze monsta]

hawt.

Halloween was shite. Was feeling pretty rough, coz I went to my friend's house a day before, and her whole family were ill... *idiot* We had one trick or treater, who stood at the door, just wearing a mask with his mate. They didn't even SAY trick or treat, my dad just laughed and closed the door. :haha:

I want to watch next weeks episode of spooks tomorrow night, but I'm going out. I hate having a social life. :mad:

[Carswell98]

hawt.

Halloween was shite. Was feeling pretty rough, coz I went to my friend's house a day before, and her whole family were ill... *idiot* We had one trick or treater, who stood at the door, just wearing a mask with his mate. They didn't even SAY trick or treat, my dad just laughed and closed the door. :haha:

I want to watch next weeks episode of spooks tomorrow night, but I'm going out. I hate having a social life. :mad:


that sucks man, :/

this was probably the first halloween I've ever really had a good time

you hate having a social life? bah, TV shows won't go anywhere, might as well go have fun when you can, just, record it or something :shrug:

[JilaX^]

I know, it's definitely my favorite album, I Want You (She's So Heavy) is awesome



sounds like fun, so like... do you guys actually celebrate halloween or not?

I wouldn't call what's done in canada tradition, it's all pretty fake :shrug:

lol, my friends just put up a pic of me on facebook

I was already pretty drunk at this point :haha

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/carswell98/15933_214276966112_511901112_456858.jpg

Well, people do celebrate it's just. Not a tradition. A tad like you guys, I guess.

:haha :haha :haha
That pic is brilliant! (No need to tell us about the drunk part, though. :p: )

hawt.

Halloween was shite. Was feeling pretty rough, coz I went to my friend's house a day before, and her whole family were ill... *idiot* We had one trick or treater, who stood at the door, just wearing a mask with his mate. They didn't even SAY trick or treat, my dad just laughed and closed the door. :haha:

I want to watch next weeks episode of spooks tomorrow night, but I'm going out. I hate having a social life. :mad:

:haha
You were kind of asking for it...

And, just tell everyone you're "Sick".



EDIT: Heading to London soon.
See you guys Monday, or so.

[Carswell98]

Well, people do celebrate it's just. Not a tradition. A tad like you guys, I guess.

:haha :haha :haha
That pic is brilliant! (No need to tell us about the drunk part, though. :p: )



lol,

man my eye hurt the next day though, that red eyeball wasn't on purpose, I got fake blood in it :haha:

(looked effin' cool though)

[ze monsta]

EDIT: Heading to London soon.
See you guys Monday, or so.
oooo Tell me where abouts you're going and I'll go and see you after school :haha:

And Braedon, I don't even need to record it. It will be on iplayer and on next week, it's just easily the best programme on TV right now, and I get so sucked into it. :o

[JilaX^]

lol,

man my eye hurt the next day though, that red eyeball wasn't on purpose, I got fake blood in it :haha:

(looked effin' cool though)

Really!?
It looks amazing. Bet that hurt like a bitch, though...

oooo Tell me where abouts you're going and I'll go and see you after school :haha:

And Braedon, I don't even need to record it. It will be on iplayer and on next week, it's just easily the best programme on TV right now, and I get so sucked into it. :o

That came a bit too late :haha

We were just downtown in the city anyways, saw Chelsea beat Man U on Sunday and went around town, doing the regular tourist stuff. :p:

I'm also 18 now.
Had my first legal pint today!

:cheers:

[Carswell98]

Really!?
It looks amazing. Bet that hurt like a bitch, though...

well, I didn't notice until I sobered up a bit, so for the most part it was fine :haha:

I'm also 18 now.
Had my first legal pint today!

:cheers:

:cheers:

how was it, glorious or what? :p:

[JilaX^]

well, I didn't notice until I sobered up a bit, so for the most part it was fine :haha:

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
Oh my god...........

:cheers:

how was it, glorious or what? :p:

It was pretty damn glorious, yeah.
With my parents as well :p:
And it wasn't weird. They even picked me up a 6 pack of 0,33L Carlsberg at the duty free. Woot, for being a, legal, adult, I guess.

[Carswell98]

It was pretty damn glorious, yeah.
With my parents as well :p:
And it wasn't weird. They even picked me up a 6 pack of 0,33L Carlsberg at the duty free. Woot, for being a, legal, adult, I guess.

the first legal one always is, I still remember mine, Crown and Coke :p


yeah, being legal is nice, sort of takes part of the fun out of drinking though :haha:

[JilaX^]

the first legal one always is, I still remember mine, Crown and Coke :p


yeah, being legal is nice, sort of takes part of the fun out of drinking though :haha:

:haha

Well, I still can't get booze higher than 22% or so, legally. So I guess I'll still have that for a couple of years :p:

[Carswell98]

:haha

Well, I still can't get booze higher than 22% or so, legally. So I guess I'll still have that for a couple of years :p:

really?

thats weird, when you turn 19, you get everything here :shrug: you can buy Bacardi 151, or Everclear on your 19th birthday... not that I'd advise ever consuming either of those two god awful spirits, seriously, nobody needs 95.6% alcohol content :puke:

[JilaX^]

really?

thats weird, when you turn 19, you get everything here :shrug: you can buy Bacardi 151, or Everclear on your 19th birthday... not that I'd advise ever consuming either of those two god awful spirits, seriously, nobody needs 95.6% alcohol content :puke:

Here it's 18 for beer, wine and other things below 22% or 20%, can't remember which. 20 for anything above that.

And, I'd never be that stupid :haha:


I'm bad enough at holding my regular liquor :o

[Hendrix_fan_14]

Hey guys wasn't exactly sure where to ask so i'll say it here.

I've recently starting playing jazz just basic stuff like inversions and chords and reading and playing standards.

I need a jazz theory book and I was wondering if the Jazz Theory Book by Mark Levine is any good? I've seen good reviews for it.

Also I have a guitar teacher who plays jazz as well so don't worry about that.

cheers.

[ze monsta]

We were just downtown in the city anyways, saw Chelsea beat Man U on Sunday and went around town, doing the regular tourist stuff. :p:

Oh really? Stamford Bridge is next to my school. Seriously. :haha:

[JilaX^]

Oh really? Stamford Bridge is next to my school. Seriously. :haha:

:haha

Really?
That's awesome.

Didn't really get to see much except the closest area around the stadium, while getting in there. And, well. On the way out, I couldn't really see much except a sea of people :p:

[imgooley]

:wavey:


Gonna try and see JJ Grey and Mofro next week :o

[imgooley]

My bad, on the 9th of Dec.

[ze monsta]

:haha

Really?
That's awesome.

Didn't really get to see much except the closest area around the stadium, while getting in there. And, well. On the way out, I couldn't really see much except a sea of people :p:
People kick rugby balls at it. :haha: Chelsea use my school playground as a car park on match nights, and in return we have a school gate which is technically on ground owned by the club.

[Carswell98]

:wavey:


Gonna try and see JJ Grey and Mofro next week :o

:wavey:

hey man, hows it going?

[imgooley]

:wavey:

hey man, hows it going?
Alright.

Playing in a band right now. Shitty pop covers, but hey.

[Carswell98]

Alright.

Playing in a band right now. Shitty pop covers, but hey.

lol, me too, unfortunately

I'm gonna play for a friend for a few shows, she actually just won a reality show up here, not my kind of music, but she's really good at what she does

gotta start somewhere I guess :shrug:

[Zapher]

Seems like ive missed this thread.

Clock is now 03:30 AM here in Sweden, just trying to learn John Lee Hookers - Boom Boom on my guitar, great tune.

Guess everyone else is asleep.

[JilaX^]

People kick rugby balls at it. :haha: Chelsea use my school playground as a car park on match nights, and in return we have a school gate which is technically on ground owned by the club.


:haha
Must be.... Interesting :p:



Goolz and Carswell, it's better than not playing at all.
I'm actually looking forward to playing some different things with some friends of mine, mixing our influences and doing our own sort of thing. Their favourites are electronica :haha
We've got a lot of common ground in things like the Beatles and Tom Waits though, so we should be able to figure something out....


What kinda songs are you guys doing?


Also, I just ordered one of them new Zoom H4n portable recorders. 2 built in condensor mics, and the additional option of multi track recording with mics, or even taking a signal in from a Mixer. :cool:

Also ordered a couple of new powertubes for my Blues Jr, as they're dying. Never changed any tubes before, got any tips?

[imgooley]

^The set list from the last show:

Teardrop- Massive Attack
Nobody- The Wonder Girls
All I want to do is make love to you- Heart
It Ends Tonight- All American Rejects
-original-
Hey Jude- Beatles.

[JilaX^]

That's not too bad though. :shrug:
Could be a whole lot worse.

[imgooley]

That's not too bad though. :shrug:
Could be a whole lot worse.
Yes. The songs (at least the majority of them) weren't too bad. They're just boring to play.

Next show, though, we should be playing When the Levee Breaks, a J-Pop song, and one other.

[JilaX^]

Yes. The songs (at least the majority of them) weren't too bad. They're just boring to play.

Next show, though, we should be playing When the Levee Breaks, a J-Pop song, and one other.

Well, it's all about making them interesting, add things. Flourishes, little details and licks, that make the song fun to play.

E.g. we're playing Mustang Sally, which a lot of people consider boring and overplayed. I do an Albert Collins solo in the middle, and voila. A lot more fun for me :p: