GOTM April: ESP Eclipse-II


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sepultura alma
03-21-2009, 07:28 AM
GOTM April: ESP Eclipse-II

Iím going to try and cover everything about this guitar I can and give you as much detail as I can be arsed lol but if I do miss something out that anyone wants to know Iíll be more than happy to let you knowÖ enjoy =D
Features:
This is a 2007 standard series ESP Eclipse-II in snow white it features a:
ē Set-Neck
ē 24.75Ē Scale
ē Mahogany Body
ē Mahogany Neck
ē Ebony Fingerboard
ē 42mm Bone Nut
ē Thin U Neck Contour
ē 22 XJ Frets
ē Black Nickle Hardware
ē Gotoh Magnum Lock Tuners
ē Gotoh TOM Bridge & Tail
ē EMG 81 in the bridge and 60 in the neck
ē Finish: Snow white
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Quality:
Well as for the overall build quality of this instrument I really canít fault it, the finish is spot on and Iíve found no flaws in the paint work. The inlays are all very nicely finished in the beautiful piece of ebony that has been used for the fret board and there are no odd gaps or anything around them which Iím sure someone was asking about not long back. The neck feels smooth and the guitar is very well balanced and you get that feeling youíve got something of great quality in your hands when you play.
The setup was prefect, the action was spot on for me and it felt amazing to play straight out of the case, there was no fret buzz at all and the action is pretty damn low. The pickups seemed to be at just the right height to bring the best sound out them and the instrument and I really couldnít find a single thing about it that didnít make me feel a little damp =p
Now the thing that I do need to mention about the guitar is that under a month or so in to having it there was a problem with the pickups. Occasionally when I switched from the bridge to the neck pickups it went very quiet and muffled then after a few seconds seemed to get better and sounded as if it was warming up or something and then worked fine, I checked the battery and that was pretty much full but still I put a new one in just in case but it still did it. Of course I thought hang on this Is brand new, over £1000 guitar so I took it straight back to the shop they had a look at it and thought that there was nothing wrong with it for a while because it seemed to be working fine for them (one of those annoying moments where itís broken when you do it and then someone else tryís and it works fine) so they said they would keep it overnight so they could have a better look at it and get back to me if they did find anything. Lucky they did have the same problem with the pickups and after trying them out for a while they found that in the end it was the EMG 60 that was a bit dodgy; they sent it back to ESP where they replaced all! the electronics and sent it back working fine and ItĎs been working for the last 9 odd months without any problems =]
Iím was very impressed with ESPís response to the fault even though of course very disappointed that it had a fault to begin with.


Sound:
Now onto the sound, it really has got one of the nicest tones Iíve ever heard from an EMG equipped guitar. It just seems to be so much clearer, much more of a warmer and deeper tone then most Iíve tried with EMG itís just awesome.
I get amazingly lush sounding cleans from the 60 and a truly deep brutal all out metal tone coming from the 81 for when I just need to go.. Well all out metal =p. This is surprisingly a very versatile guitar, I did think that it would be a pretty much all out metal sounding guitar but the cleans I can get are rich and sometimes even quite bright and jazzy sounding which I really didnít think Iíd get from this kind of guitar.
The amp I mostly play it through is my Randall KH-120 which is a pretty awesome amp for being a solid state and for free (won it hehe) I've played it though my mates 6505 and the sound just made me melt (defo getting one as soon as I pay off bills, can scrap the money together and persuade the misses I need it! lol)


Playability:
Well I thought the best way to describe the playability is that itís all round just Awesome! For me itís a guitar that seems to make playing easier somehow, the neck feels just right for me, really nice and comfortable all round. It feels right for being able to shred as fast as hell on it, it has pretty great access to those top frets too , a lot more comfortable and easier than youíd find on a Gibson les Paul imo. It also feels like there some substance to the neck; it feels great for chugging out some heavy rhythms. Itís defiantly one of the nicest guitars if not the nicest feeling guitar Iíve played.

Overall:
Overall this guitar as far surpassed my expectations of what it would be and Iím very pleased that I got it (even with the pickup troubles). I did have the Ltd ec-1000 before this and heard that the ESP eclipse wasnít much if at all better, well all I can say is that Iím extremely glad I tried it out for myself as I couldnít be happy with it.
This is a guitar that I canít see myself ever wanting to sell, Itís a guitar that I can easily see me playing in the latter years of my life and still loving it, itís defiantly a keeper =D
If you have a chance or are thinking of getting one of these then I say go for it I very much doubt youíd regret itÖ but you never know, Thatís why we always try before we buy kids =p

bucketmark
03-21-2009, 07:38 AM
dream guitar.............

EndTheRapture51
03-21-2009, 07:51 AM
dream guitar.............

Same.

It is really worth the extra money from the EC-1000?

myearshurt
03-21-2009, 08:03 AM
Finally :down:

Not a big fan of LP bodies but that's pretty sexy....whoa you seriously won the KH-120?

EndTheRapture51
03-21-2009, 08:12 AM
Also is it as bulky as other LPs?

sepultura alma
03-21-2009, 08:26 AM
Same.

It is really worth the extra money from the EC-1000?
imho YES a big fat yes mate =D
at first I did think "oh yeah It's such a waste of the extra money and your just paying for the name" but then I went and tried one out and was blown away, it's just alot better quality guitar all round.

yeah It was a prize in the Total guitar magazine it came with the Ltd kh-202 which I sold, it was horrid, the frets were so sharp and it just didn't feel at all right to me but yeah I kept the amp cause it has a pretty decent tone.

No it's really as not bulky as other Les Paul's, the bodies smaller and thinner then most and seems alot more comfortable.

Killedelphia19
03-21-2009, 05:08 PM
dont you have to ask permission to make a GOTM?

sepultura alma
03-21-2009, 05:13 PM
yeah I've been asked to do one by the guy who sorts them out hence why it's been posted but he must not been back on-line since it's been up so hasn't had the chance to sticky it, sort it out and make it official or whatever

splamron
03-21-2009, 06:01 PM
absolutely stunning, Love the finish.

azn_guitarist25
03-22-2009, 10:00 AM
Nice gotm man :)

Ismail93
03-22-2009, 10:14 AM
great job man
:)

sepultura alma
03-22-2009, 04:24 PM
Cheers guys I tried to be unbiased and quite critical about the guitar but found it really hard to find anything that I didn't like about it and after I'd finished I read it back to myself and just ended up finding that I'd pretty much just written how awesome it was lol =p

Tedward
03-22-2009, 04:45 PM
beautiful guitar man.


I think ESP should look into new inlays to put on their Eclipses and Vipers though. Those flags sortof ruin them for me.

oneblackened
03-22-2009, 09:03 PM
Do want. What's the neck like?

cfhwarhead
03-23-2009, 01:30 AM
beautiful guitar man.


I think ESP should look into new inlays to put on their Eclipses and Vipers though. Those flags sortof ruin them for me.
I didnt know they were flags, i thought they followed with the headstock.
Either way i think they are pretty fitting inlays for the Eclipses, vipers need different tho.

Horlicks
03-23-2009, 05:20 AM
It can't just be me who thinks that looks hideous?

azn_guitarist25
03-23-2009, 06:22 AM
It can't just be me who thinks that looks hideous?

sorry it's just you :p: though i'll admit the non-us body shapes look a hell of a lot better.

LedFender
03-23-2009, 09:55 AM
It can't just be me who thinks that looks hideous?
i dont they are hideous but ive seen better inlays.
i think they are better off as squares....

gibson jack
03-23-2009, 02:01 PM
Who do I have to do to get me one of those babies?

Baby Joel
03-23-2009, 02:04 PM
To be honest, I never really like the look of this guitar. Perhaps it was the EMG's (I hate the look, and tone of those). Perhaps it was the black on white (I prefer gold on white).
Still, I have yet to try it out before I make final judgments.

Lil Macker
03-23-2009, 04:44 PM
I've never been to keen on white LPs to be honest, but I'm sure it sounds great :D

thetoastinator
03-23-2009, 10:13 PM
Nice man, I love Eclipses! Ive played 4 of them, and Ive loved them all. Sadly I can only afford the LTD EC 1000, which is still the best guitar that I have ever owned.

SuperFlyinMonke
03-28-2009, 06:46 AM
I played a flamed wine red one of these last week and it was good fun to play. One does get a good *chug* out of these beasts. The 6505+ that I was using it through left me a little unenthused, but a good, solid and well made guitar. I wouldn't complain if someone gave me one, as I already have a fixed tailpiece SG with EMG's in it, but it wouldn't be my choice for next guitar.

Nice axe. I hope you didn't have to wait too long to get it back from Japan. Presumably that's where they sent it. Maybe they "sent" it to ESP and got their tech to put a new 60 in it. ;)

MatrixClaw
03-28-2009, 04:52 PM
Nice! But you kicked my thread off before a year was over :cry:

:haha

sepultura alma
03-28-2009, 04:58 PM
^ yeah sorry about that, I did feel a little guilty as a whole year for a GOTM would of been pretty damn epic!

Mwoit
03-29-2009, 11:43 AM
Looks like a great guitar! How does the neck profile compare to a typical LP then?

sepultura alma
03-29-2009, 12:04 PM
Looks like a great guitar! How does the neck profile compare to a typical LP then?
imo it's just alot more comfortable and easier to play em.. it is thinner and feels faster like and now that I've worn it in a bit the paint on the back feels awesome and really smooth. It's hard to think though as I haven't played a Les Paul for ages and i'd really need to play them side by side to tell you much more.

evil_in_you
03-30-2009, 08:54 PM
Thats a 07' model mate, as shown in the serial number. They explain it here: http://www.guitarsatbmusic.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3808

EDIT: I have a 06' in Vintage Black and it slays! Great buy man

Yngwi3
03-30-2009, 09:10 PM
If you could play a standard Epiphone/Gibson Les Paul at some stage before playing your EC again it would be greatly appreciated :)
I personally LOVE the heaviness and feel of a Epi/Gibby but the ECs get so much better rep, and I want to know if I should shift alliances :p:

:cheers: Very nice.

angl2k
03-31-2009, 05:24 AM
Thats a 07' model mate, as shown in the serial number. They explain it here: http://www.guitarsatbmusic.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3808

EDIT: I have a 06' in Vintage Black and it slays! Great buy man

i'm kinda curious, my eclipse was made in 2007 in japan and has four control knobs instead of three. i bought it in germany if that makes a difference?

also eclipses are awesome! i have small hands so the thinner neck is really comfortable

only downside is that a lot of models ship with EMG pickups, would've been cool to have more options

sepultura alma
04-01-2009, 06:29 AM
Thats a 07' model mate, as shown in the serial number. They explain it here: http://www.guitarsatbmusic.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3808

EDIT: I have a 06' in Vintage Black and it slays! Great buy man
yeah I realised that the other day but forgot to change it =]

evil_in_you
04-01-2009, 06:55 PM
i'm kinda curious, my eclipse was made in 2007 in japan and has four control knobs instead of three. i bought it in germany if that makes a difference?

also eclipses are awesome! i have small hands so the thinner neck is really comfortable

only downside is that a lot of models ship with EMG pickups, would've been cool to have more options


Where you bought it is no bother. The japanese models are not weight relieved and have an additional tone pot. Assuming you have the Eclipse I CTM?

Avedas
04-01-2009, 10:55 PM
Not really an LP fan, but I can see myself using one of those. Nice guitar!

mikko 9119
04-02-2009, 02:04 AM
wow. amazing man!
everything visually about that guitar makes me want it so bad.
just plain awesome

angl2k
04-02-2009, 03:50 AM
Where you bought it is no bother. The japanese models are not weight relieved and have an additional tone pot. Assuming you have the Eclipse I CTM?

it's an Eclipse II stbc with qm top, 2 EMG 81's and gotoh locking tuners. i tried emailing ESP about it, still no reply :(

sepultura alma
04-02-2009, 06:01 AM
it's an Eclipse II stbc with qm top, 2 EMG 81's and gotoh locking tuners. i tried emailing ESP about it, still no reply :(
differant colour but same guitar as yours yeah?http://www.thomann.de/gb/esp_eclipse_1ctm_sw.htm
I believe theses are ones that are not aloud to be sold in the USA because they are too similar to the Gibson Les Pauls in looks due to the 4 pots and the lower horn being the same shape. The original pre-Gibson-lawsuit version of the Eclipse now called the eclipse I is still available in Europe though.
The Eclipse II has a slightly different lower horn with a bigger cutaway and the different control set-up (only 3 pots), the Eclipse I is an almost an exact copy of the Gibson Les Paul, just with EMG's and without the pickguard of the Les Pauls

angl2k
04-02-2009, 07:33 AM
differant colour but same guitar as yours yeah?http://www.thomann.de/gb/esp_eclipse_1ctm_sw.htm
I believe theses are ones that are not aloud to be sold in the USA because they are too similar to the Gibson Les Pauls in looks due to the 4 pots and the lower horn being the same shape. The original pre-Gibson-lawsuit version of the Eclipse now called the eclipse I is still available in Europe though.
The Eclipse II has a slightly different lower horn with a bigger cutaway and the different control set-up (only 3 pots), the Eclipse I is an almost an exact copy of the Gibson Les Paul, just with EMG's and without the pickguard of the Les Pauls

well judging by the eclipse 1 specs it's not the same guitar. mine has gotoh tuners and 2 EMG 81's (no EMG 60)

edit: i found it!
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/oversea/standard_gt/ecli_2stbc.html

here's a nice overview of all export models
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/oversea/index_gt.html

sepultura alma
04-02-2009, 08:05 AM
well judging by the eclipse 1 specs it's not the same guitar. mine has gotoh tuners and 2 EMG 81's (no EMG 60)

actually i bought it at thomann, the product page is
http://www.thomann.de/nl/esp_eclipse_ii_qm_stbc.htm

it shipped with gotoh tuners instead of sperzel

judging by the ESP product archives (http://www.espguitars.com/support_archives.html) it has more in common with the 2003/2004 series, but with Gotoh tuners. a mystery only ESP can solve i suppose :)
hmmm... what year is yours made in?
The specs on Thomann may just be from the 2003/04 sites as you can't find that guitar anymore on the new ESP site as it's an American site and the law suite stuff and so on.

Looking at the archives they seem to of moved onto the 3 pot design in 2005 and they don't have the option of them with an 81 set. The 2005 version with the 3 pots are still using sperzel though and they don't start using Gotoh till 2007.
So yeah thomann must just not of updated there info and are using the old specs form before they were all fitted with Gotoh.


edit* this is yours http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/75382


there's some sweet looking guitars on that site http://www.espguitars.co.jp/oversea/index_gt.html great find man =D

...Uzi09...
04-02-2009, 12:40 PM
ESP or Les Paul.....Hard choice i'm going to have to go with Les Paul.....

--Who has two thumbs and doesnt give a crap, Uzi09 ROCK OUT!--

Eat_0n_Kent
04-03-2009, 04:07 AM
So it's an ugly Les Paul,
worst guitar of the month ever.

sepultura alma
04-03-2009, 11:49 AM
So it's an ugly Les Paul,
worst guitar of the month ever.

Well everyone has the right to there own opinion on it but would you care to say why it's the worst GOTM ever! and tbf If you think it's really that bad and the worst GOTM ever why don't you write one?

God people like you piss me off, you make a statement which by all means is fair enough but then when you don't even bother to back that statement up with anything... There's always one on nearly every thread that tends to say something like "X Guitar is ****!" or "yeah X guitar is the best get that", Give a feckin reason!! People like you are what's wrong with this forum and for that matter the world! XD

isidril93
04-03-2009, 03:33 PM
i love this guitar!!! it sooo mazing!!!!

Shinozoku
04-04-2009, 12:47 AM
Hmm, thanks to that tidbit about the serial numbers, I learned that my Edwards was made April 19th, 2007 and was the 25th guitar off the line that day. Probably explains the damn intonation problems xD

And IMO it's a damn sexy guitar, and I may be buying one eventually :D I'd like one of the Full thickness models (even the youtube clips show that they sound amazing), but I'd have to go custom and ESP Japan won't do that for me xD

the1
04-04-2009, 06:44 AM
I've played an EC-1000. Nice, but not enough to justify the price tag. Not sure how this would compare.

Snakeô
04-07-2009, 01:34 AM
Wow.

That's plain gorgeous. :golfclap:

azn_guitarist25
04-09-2009, 11:18 AM
So it's an ugly Les Paul,
worst guitar of the month ever.

Ah nice to know you like to share your opinion but no one gives a ****. Thanks for commenting and have a great day :)

blorgy
04-10-2009, 12:07 AM
I recently bought an EC-1000 and i love it so far. from what i hear the differences between the eclipse II and mine are kind of minor, but its a great guitar. I got the vintage black one :)

sepultura alma
04-10-2009, 04:38 AM
I recently bought an EC-1000 and i love it so far. from what i hear the differences between the eclipse II and mine are kind of minor, but its a great guitar. I got the vintage black one :)
As I say In my review I had a EC-1000 too and I had heard exactly the same. The Eclipse Is a far better build, there is just more time and care taken when making them then the Ltd and it's made from better quality hardware and wood. It just has an all round nicer feel to it, as soon as you pick it up you can feel and pick out the differences. If you do ever get a chance to play one then do so and you'll know why It's an ESP and not an Ltd.

dustyboy316
04-16-2009, 02:52 PM
I love it except white.

Pat_s1t
04-20-2009, 06:23 PM
Mmm...want...

Gonna get me this in the Vintage Black finish along with a 6505 next fall.

berger_curtis
04-21-2009, 12:57 PM
What do you guys think about XJ frets for someone who has exceptionally large hands? Or does it come down to preference?

DamXT
04-21-2009, 11:29 PM
I have that exact same guitar! :D
('07 snow white eclipse II)

And yeah, it seems everyone who have a LTD EC1000 says that they're almost identical. Which is false. I've owned an EC1000 before I switched to the Eclipse. I can confirm the Eclipse has a totally different feel even if their quite the same in term of specs. It IS worth the extra money.

el toro DKiAB
04-25-2009, 08:35 PM
Almost got one for 80 CDN $. I died a little bit inside when the guy told me it was already sold. Why won't those idiots remove their ads from the web when they made the sale ?

cornmancer
04-26-2009, 11:36 AM
And she was hot - as she kissed my mouth
She was hot - as I wiped her brow
She was hot - she pinned me to the ground
She was quick - she knew her way around
She was hot - as she tore my clothes
She was hot - she had no place to go
She was hot - on a cold and rainy night

the fendernator
04-26-2009, 11:46 AM
Please somebody in the UK buy this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESP-ECLIPSE-II-ANTIQUE-CHERRY-SUNBURST-ELECTRIC-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ190302371383QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_%20Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item1903023713%2083&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13%2018

ESP Eclipse 11 for £775! I wish I could afford it :(