String buzz on 6th string.


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JaX89dk
09-30-2009, 01:27 PM
Hi

I got a Ibanez S320, and I have changed to a bigger gauge strings from 0.10 to 0.12. The only thing I have adjusted on it is the intonation with the wheel in the back, and the bridge is parallel with the body. The stop bar is also removed, so now its a floating trem. I have it tuned for drop c, and it stays in tune. The neck doesnt seem to have a problem after the gauge change, it looks to be normal. So I dont think I need a truss rod adjustment?, so maybe I need to change the action on the string saddle to remove the buzz?

I also have another question to the intonation, about the wheel in the back, I have added alot of tension to it, it got more tension now than i recieved it, and it had 0.09 as stock strings. So i dont know, maybe it wasnt setup correctly from the factory? - but anyways, its parallel with the body and it stays tune as mentioned above.

btw. I can strum it a little and it wont buzz, but when I strum it a little harder it makes the buzz. - it also does it through the amp.

Hope you can give me some good advice :)

Thanks in advance.

jfreyvogel
09-30-2009, 01:31 PM
Just raise the action slightly.

JaX89dk
09-30-2009, 02:05 PM
Just raise the action slightly.

I raised the action a bit, it seems a little better. But the buzz still remains.

jfreyvogel
09-30-2009, 02:16 PM
It is hard to say then without actually looking at it. It may be a spring issue. If you do try to adjust the springs loosen all of your strings first.

JaX89dk
09-30-2009, 02:20 PM
Sounds like your think of a original floyd rose? - mine got the ZR tremolo.

Fiire
09-30-2009, 02:22 PM
Fret on the fret?
And check for the source of the buzz.

JaX89dk
09-30-2009, 02:31 PM
Just tried to play all the strings, one by one fret by fret. And actually all the bass strings make the buzz more or less, and it goes up to fret 13 or something. Maybe I do need that truss rod adjustment ?

ibanezgod1973
09-30-2009, 02:33 PM
read the setup sticky thread and do the credit card check to check the neck relief and read your ibanez manual.

the guitar was setup at the factory to take 9s if you change the string guage it needs to be setup again to compensate for the increased tension.

JaX89dk
09-30-2009, 02:36 PM
I have looked in the manual a couple of times, and the credit card check dont i need a capo to do that? plz explain.


EDIT:

When I look a little closer, it could look like the truss rod needs to be loosen.

potatohead_33
09-30-2009, 02:43 PM
I highly doubt a guitar can go from 9's to 10's to 12's without any truss rod adjustment and still be setup properly

ibanezgod1973
09-30-2009, 02:47 PM
you actually don`t need a credit card to do the check,

fret the 1st fret using your left hand (any finger is fine)
use the thumb on your right hand to fret the 15th fret
gently tap the string at the 8th fret with the 1st or 2nd finger of your right hand
you should see a gap between the bottom of the string and the top of the fret.

if you can see the gap the neck relief is ok.

JaX89dk
09-30-2009, 02:55 PM
you actually don`t need a credit card to do the check,

fret the 1st fret using your left hand (any finger is fine)
use the thumb on your right hand to fret the 15th fret
gently tap the string at the 8th fret with the 1st or 2nd finger of your right hand
you should see a gap between the bottom of the string and the top of the fret.

if you can see the gap the neck relief is ok.

That sounds a little confusing, let me explain:

I fret the 1st fret with my left hand, and then i just keep my left hand on it?
and i use my thumb of my right hand to fret the 15 fret, and maybe my pinky to strum it?
and then i then i dont move my fingers from the frets? - and then tap the 8th fret?

Is that how it is done, or am i way off ?

potatohead_33
09-30-2009, 02:57 PM
If you have the owner's manual it is all in there. Ibanez checks the relief at the eight fret.

You don't need to strum anything. Fret the string at fret 1, and fret 15. Then check the relief at fret 8. If I remember correctly you want about .05 - .06" which is about a credit card thickness of air space between the string and the 8th fret.

ibanezgod1973
09-30-2009, 02:57 PM
you don`t strum your doing a visual check

fret 1 an 15, tap 8

JaX89dk
09-30-2009, 02:58 PM
so i just hold each hand on each fret, and look at the space between neck and string at fret 8 ?

potatohead_33
09-30-2009, 02:59 PM
Yes

If the string is still touching the 8th fret, you need to adjust the truss rod

JaX89dk
09-30-2009, 03:07 PM
From what I can see by doing the check, there is only 0.1 mm maybe 0.2

EDIT:

What should it be?

And i tried putting my pick under the 8 fret, and it is probly is only 0.1 mm maybe less. And if I understand the manual correctly it should be between 1.7 - 2.3 mm - can anyone verify that ?

So I need to loosen the truss rod maybe 1/4 ? - and i should be oki?

ibanezgod1973
09-30-2009, 04:09 PM
no, the relief should be about 0.3mm you need to tighten it. to create more bow, thus giving a bigger gap in the middle.

NB never adjust more than 1/4 (quarter) of a turn.

accurate measurements are useless though, you need to do it according to how you want it and the instruments playability.

JaX89dk
09-30-2009, 04:32 PM
Oki, I will try it out tomorrow.

Thanks for the advices everyone :)