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Deplorable
09-21-2010, 01:01 AM
Letlive - Fake History (http://www.myspace.com/letlive)

Holy shit. Whoa, awesome Glassjaw-y post-hardcore... but better, this album has seriously floored me.


Don't bother with any earlier stuff either.

MustangMan311
09-21-2010, 01:31 AM
Been stoked on this since it came out. It's easily one of the top five albums of the year and they're easily the best band on Tragic Hero. AWESOME stuff.

Deplorable
09-21-2010, 01:33 AM
^Listen to that man and go download this album you fools.

Maybe not my AOTY quite, but probably in the top 10, so good.

nashawa
09-21-2010, 01:35 AM
The first song in the myspace player reminds me of Strike Anywhere + Linkin Park. Not sure how I feel about this...

Deplorable
09-21-2010, 01:38 AM
The first song in the myspace player reminds me of Strike Anywhere + Linkin Park. Not sure how I feel about this...

Hmmm, yeah, I'd be worried if I was going deaf too...

MustangMan311
09-21-2010, 01:38 AM
There seriously isn't a weak member of the band. They're all killer. They also cover Refused live, which is sick.

nashawa
09-21-2010, 01:41 AM
Hmmm, yeah, I'd be worried if I was going deaf too...
First song sucks... seriously. It sounds like Linkin Park with a punk beat.

Second song more than makes up for it.

DimebagLivesOn
09-21-2010, 01:44 AM
Listening to that first video they have, I wish I could download right now :(

nashawa
09-21-2010, 01:48 AM
Yeah, I like the video too.

lookpizza
09-21-2010, 01:48 AM
First song sucks... seriously. It sounds like Linkin Park with a punk beat.

Second song more than makes up for it.

This, exactly.

Deplorable
09-21-2010, 01:49 AM
First song sucks... seriously. It sounds like Linkin Park with a punk beat.

Second song more than makes up for it.

Linkin part wish they had one millionth of the song writing ability that the last 30 seconds of Renegade '86 show.

nashawa
09-21-2010, 01:51 AM
Yeah I didn't make it that far. The first minute was painful.

Deplorable
09-21-2010, 01:55 AM
I Seriously recommend you get the album, it has a duet on it.

A MOTHER FUCKING DUET!!!!


(favourite song on myspace is The Sick, Sick 6.8 Billion, so awesome)

nashawa
09-21-2010, 01:55 AM
I have it already :cool:

Deplorable
09-21-2010, 01:56 AM
<3

GodofCheesecake
09-21-2010, 02:01 AM
Listen to Muther and tell me Linkin Park could write that.

Deplorable
09-21-2010, 02:03 AM
Listen to the album and tell me that Linkin Park could write more than one verse of one song.

nashawa
09-21-2010, 02:12 AM
And the award for most people missing the same point in a thread goes to...

Deplorable
09-21-2010, 02:23 AM
Care to elaborate there, champ?

zezimathehero
09-21-2010, 02:29 AM
This is pretty sweet.


Would be better with Daryl Palumbo

lookpizza
09-21-2010, 02:37 AM
Holy shit. Whoa, awesome Glassjaw-y post-hardcore... but better, this album has seriously floored me.



I just noticed this. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Deplorable
09-21-2010, 02:39 AM
I love Glassjaw.

Get the album.

DimebagLivesOn
09-21-2010, 02:45 AM
Oh shit, I have a Glassjaw album to listen to.

saxaxe
09-21-2010, 05:22 AM
First song sucks... seriously. It sounds like Linkin Park with a punk beat.

Second song more than makes up for it.
Agreed. Luckily, I love Linkin Park, so I'm diggin this overall. :cool:

nashawa
09-21-2010, 08:26 AM
Care to elaborate there, champ?
No one ever said anything about Linkin Park having better songwriting, but you guys (inexplicably) seemed to assume that was what I was driving at. The only comparison I made was when I said that the first song sounded like it could have been LP, as in "wow, this sounds like terrible, heavy radio rock."

No need to get offended :p:.

Deplorable
09-21-2010, 08:30 AM
No one ever said anything about Linkin Park having better songwriting, but you guys (inexplicably) seemed to assume that was what I was driving at. The only comparison I made was when I said that the first song sounded like it could have been LP, as in "wow, this sounds like terrible, heavy radio rock."

No need to get offended :p:.

Saying it sounds like Linkin Park implies (yes I realise it was not stated, I apologise) that the songwriting was poor.

nashawa
09-21-2010, 08:31 AM
The songwriting was poor on the first song. Whether or not LP could have done it better was never what I was getting at.

Deplorable
09-21-2010, 08:33 AM
mmm ok, I understand now.

lookpizza
09-22-2010, 06:24 PM
I got the album. Just listened to it all the way through and have come to the conclusion that it's really nothing special. It remind me A LOT of Say Hello to Sunshine and to be honest I would rather listen to Finch :shrug:

raar78
09-23-2010, 09:40 AM
It rightly contains many hit songs yet I am hesitate to announced or claim that it is perfect as some songs are too unexpectedly boring...

Zycho
09-23-2010, 01:42 PM
This is a really confusing band. The songs constantly go back and forth from "Wow this is really good!" to "Why did they put this weird overproduced part there?" It's like I'm listening to Every Time I Die one second and then some weird combination of Attack Attack/I am Abomination/Avenged Sevenfold (EDIT: The guy who said radio rock was dead on, just wasn't quite sure how to put it.)

The Charm
03-01-2011, 05:49 PM
I think Muther is my favorite song on the album.

synestershadows
03-01-2011, 05:56 PM
Fucking love this band!

The Charm
03-01-2011, 06:01 PM
Band rules. Had Fake History on repeat for the past few days. Thrown the new Protest cds on a few times too.

tancanada
05-03-2011, 07:55 PM
Favorite band at the moment. Shit's gonna be awesome with UO and STFP.

thecrowing33
05-03-2011, 08:44 PM
"To all my friends who'd rather get high, I'll be at ground level watching you die. **** drugs and **** straight edge, those are both the ****ing things that got the best of my friends. To all the girls that make it a trend to **** **** **** **** all of my friends, you'll all die from the same disease whether you got it in bed or you got it on your knees." Seriously love this band.

synestershadows
05-03-2011, 09:30 PM
I love Day 54.

TheReverend724
05-03-2011, 10:06 PM
I still need to hear this band

TheBDanAbstract
05-03-2011, 10:46 PM
I have mixed feelings about the band. I love the energy and the passion in the music, but the songwriting is hit and miss. I'll wait until I see them with Scale The Summit and The Human Abstract to pass full judgement.

nashawa
05-05-2011, 07:05 PM
I still need to hear this band
No you don't.

synestershadows
05-05-2011, 07:29 PM
Yes he does.

Kyle<3
05-05-2011, 07:35 PM
I like this band, been jamming on them lately.

asator
05-05-2011, 07:37 PM
I'm with Nash on this. Such a "meh" band.

EDIT: Actually, listening to it again, I like it a lot more than I remember. Still kinda overproduced though.

nashawa
05-05-2011, 08:39 PM
Yes he does.
Glassjaw already exists; why listen to a worse version of Glassjaw?

synestershadows
05-05-2011, 08:44 PM
Let's not get into this again.

nashawa
05-05-2011, 09:03 PM
The band's entire sound is lifted from another band. How do you NOT expect that to be a topic to come up frequently?

synestershadows
05-05-2011, 09:23 PM
The only thing that sounds like Glassjaw to me is the singing really.

Kyle<3
05-05-2011, 09:34 PM
I like it more than Glassjaw, its definitely not exactly the same.

nashawa
05-05-2011, 09:40 PM
No, it's not the same, but it's heavily influenced.

Still, this is Linking Park.

Kyle<3
05-05-2011, 09:58 PM
Sooo its still not the same and I like this better than Glassjaw... something about the riffs...

Hey Nash, how about you go jump in a lake, or cut a whole in lake ice and then jump in a lake because you're from Canada and its cold.

synestershadows
05-05-2011, 10:00 PM
Hey Nash....you suck...and stuff. Why don't you go cut yourself you stupid emo kid.

asator
05-06-2011, 08:14 AM
Good counter-arguments guys.

SeveredSurvival
05-06-2011, 08:42 AM
:haha :haha WOW.

Kyle<3
05-06-2011, 11:22 AM
Good counter-arguments guys.

Hey man, I'm just joshin. Cool your jets bro.

tancanada
05-06-2011, 03:15 PM
Who said you only had to listen to one good band in one genre Nash? I like Botch and Converge and Norma Jean and Psyopus. They all sound similar, so listening to both Glassjaw and letlive doesn't bother me personally.

nashawa
05-07-2011, 02:05 AM
Who said you only had to listen to one good band in one genre Nash? I like Botch and Converge and Norma Jean and Psyopus. They all sound similar, so listening to both Glassjaw and letlive doesn't bother me personally.
Ugh, for fuck's sake...

When did you all become unable to see through sarcasm? No one even noticed I said LinkinG Park? With a G? Christ, unintentional troll win for me I guess.

Also lawlz at Psyopus and NJ sounding similar.

EDIT: Sarcasm may not be the right word. Facetiousness is closer.

synestershadows
05-07-2011, 02:24 AM
Ugh, for fuck's sake...

When did you all become unable to see through sarcasm? No one even noticed I said LinkinG Park? With a G? Christ, unintentional troll win for me I guess.

Also lawlz at Psyopus and NJ sounding similar.

EDIT: Sarcasm may not be the right word. Facetiousness is closer.
You didn't say LinkinG Park.

nashawa
05-07-2011, 02:26 AM
You didn't say LinkinG Park.
No, it's not the same, but it's heavily influenced.

Still, this is Linking Park.
Post #50.

synestershadows
05-07-2011, 03:00 AM
Oh. Woops. Still, that could've been a typo.

TheReverend724
05-07-2011, 03:08 AM
Finally listened to these guys, and I can say I strongly prefer Glassjaw :shrug:

nashawa
05-07-2011, 03:08 AM
Yeah, I guess that was a little more subtle than my initial GJ comparison (which I thought was pretty blatantly ignorant).

Amuro Jay
05-07-2011, 03:10 AM
I've never listened to Glassjaw, but I think this band is okay.

TheReverend724
05-07-2011, 03:12 AM
You should, because they're the shit

zezimathehero
05-07-2011, 03:23 AM
like Botch and Converge and Norma Jean and Psyopus. They all sound similar.
Except not really at all.

TheReverend724
05-07-2011, 03:49 AM
I can see Botch and NJ, since they are a complete Botch ripoff

zezimathehero
05-07-2011, 03:53 AM
Yeah, but Norma Jean compared to Converge and Psyopus? Nigga please.

asator
05-07-2011, 08:34 AM
Hey man, I'm just joshin. Cool your jets bro.
Don't worry mang, I know. Also Tanner's post about bands that sound similar made me laugh a lot.

tancanada
05-07-2011, 10:01 AM
SHADDAP they're all 'chaotic' and 'inaccessible' so SMD

asator
05-07-2011, 10:34 AM
Norma Jean? :haha:

Your D will remain unS'd.

nashawa
05-07-2011, 10:47 AM
SHADDAP they're all 'chaotic' and 'inaccessible' so SMD
Norma Jean is radio rock with screaming.

Wat.

And besides, by that flawed logic, Elvis sounds like Elliot Smith because they both play guitar.

tancanada
05-07-2011, 11:24 PM
Norma Jean is radio rock with screaming.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt2NdnVM1CI
I dunno man, I've never heard any radio rock stations play anything as chaotic as that. If they do around where you live then I'm jealous.

lookpizza
05-07-2011, 11:49 PM
I'm surprised Nash doesn't like Norma Jean actually.

synestershadows
05-07-2011, 11:52 PM
Norma Jean sounds a lot better than I remember them being. I always thought that they were some generic Christian band like AILD, but they're actually pretty awesome.

MustangMan311
05-08-2011, 01:08 AM
Norma Jean sounds a lot better than I remember them being. I always thought that they were some generic Christian band like AILD, but they're actually pretty awesome.
Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child is one of my favorite albums ever. Definitely one of the first that got me into metalcore/heavy music (cite posts like metalcore isn't heavy).

Kyle<3
05-08-2011, 01:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt2NdnVM1CI
I dunno man, I've never heard any radio rock stations play anything as chaotic as that. If they do around where you live then I'm jealous.

I would get so stoked if one of our radio stations played that.

asator
05-08-2011, 11:40 AM
I don't dislike Norma Jean, I just never got into them 5 years ago when they were blowing up. I think they're one of those bands you have to have been into when you were younger to really appreciate now. I'm pretty indifferent to them. Generic metalcore. If it weren't for the Scogin connection I doubt I'd have any time for them.

Also they sucked live.

Kyle<3
05-08-2011, 12:39 PM
I don't dislike Norma Jean, I just never got into them 5 years ago when they were blowing up. I think they're one of those bands you have to have been into when you were younger to really appreciate now. I'm pretty indifferent to them. Generic metalcore. If it weren't for the Scogin connection I doubt I'd have any time for them.

Also they sucked live.

Scogin was in Norma Jean or something? Thats probably why their earlier albums were good lol.

blake1221
05-08-2011, 12:45 PM
Scogin was in Norma Jean or something? Thats probably why their earlier albums were good lol.

Lol yeah dude he was the driving force behind them originally.

Was more into Underoath at the time so I didn't pay much attention to Norma Jean. Glad he's in Chariot though, I think they're way better.

Kyle<3
05-08-2011, 12:50 PM
Haha, learn something new every day... I was barely into music back then. I was probably listening to Maroon 5 or something.

zezimathehero
05-08-2011, 01:11 PM
Scogin made NJ bearable, and they are terrible live.

TheIrishPatriot
05-08-2011, 01:19 PM
The Chariot are superior to Norma Jean. Saw Norma Jean live, they were k. Seeing the Chariot on the 24th, ready to die.

tancanada
05-08-2011, 05:15 PM
I've seen neither of them live, but I'm seeing them both at Scream the Prayer this year, stoked on that.

synestershadows
05-08-2011, 05:18 PM
I didn't know The Chariot was on Scream the Prayer. That makes it almost worth going to.

tancanada
05-08-2011, 05:21 PM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205795_210009719018159_115076618511470_802807_26910_n.jpg
It doesn't look too terribly bad.

zezimathehero
05-08-2011, 05:50 PM
That looks just awful.

lookpizza
05-08-2011, 06:00 PM
The Chariot are kinda lame on record. O' God The Aftermath > most of The Chariots work.

The Chariot is a way cooler band though.

synestershadows
05-08-2011, 06:08 PM
It doesn't look too terribly bad.
But it's still terribly bad.

tancanada
05-08-2011, 06:08 PM
That looks just awful.

Mmmmm if you leave out the first 3 bands it isn't too intolerable.

asator
05-08-2011, 06:26 PM
Mmmmm if you leave out the first 3 bands it isn't too intolerable.
What?!

The only respectable band there is the Chariot. Norma Jean would be too if they weren't shit live. There are some really lame bands on there.
The Chariot are kinda lame on record. O' God The Aftermath > most of The Chariots work.

The Chariot is a way cooler band though.
I really like the Chariot's records. And I've never seen them, despite having had tickets to do so on more than one occasion. :(

tancanada
05-08-2011, 07:16 PM
I never said it was good! I said it was tolerable. As in I could probably stand around and listen to I, The Breather without saying GODDAMMIT and walking out.

MustangMan311
05-08-2011, 07:17 PM
That looks just awful.

I didn't know The Chariot was on Scream the Prayer. That makes it almost worth going to.
No, no it doesn't. The Chariot is great live, but that doesn't make them worth seeing with AWFUL bands.

synestershadows
05-08-2011, 07:25 PM
At least For Today decided to stay out this time.

nashawa
05-08-2011, 08:51 PM
I'm surprised Nash doesn't like Norma Jean actually.
Same reason I don't listen to letlive.

Botch is already a band.

And THAT isn't sarcastic.

TheReverend724
05-08-2011, 09:05 PM
Same reason I don't listen to letlive.

Botch is already a band.

And THAT isn't sarcastic.
:haha:


I feel the same way

asator
05-08-2011, 09:24 PM
I never said it was good! I said it was tolerable. As in I could probably stand around and listen to I, The Breather without saying GODDAMMIT and walking out.
I can sit through a lot without leaving. I endured We Came As Romans (one of the worst sets I've witnessed), the travesty that is Your Demise pissing all over their legacy (this was just after their awful new album came out), War From A Harlot's Mouth (not that bad, actually), Emmure (absolutely that bad, actually) and Bleeding Through (no words are necessary) just to see Comeback Kid, then I even stayed and watched Parkway Drive afterwards because I had to wait for my friends to get a ride home.

But seriously, that tour will no doubt be in a massive venue with security guards and everything, and thusly the Chariot won't be that much of a spectacle. So I can't see suffering through Sleeping Giant, Texas In July and fucking Close Your Eyes (words can't describe how much I hate that band) being worth it.

tancanada
05-08-2011, 09:45 PM
Yeah Close Your Eyes is pretty terrible lol. And I dunno about the security thing, they always have STP at a halfway tiny venue in Orlando which is where I'll be seeing it.

asator
05-08-2011, 09:52 PM
THIIIIIIIIS IIIIIS OURRRRR SONNNNGGGGG

No shit. Fuck off. Worst band.

tancanada
05-08-2011, 09:53 PM
Well... maybe. I've never heard of As Hell Retreats' music, but judging by their name they probably sound pretty lol too.

TheBDanAbstract
05-08-2011, 09:57 PM
At least For Today decided to stay out this time.

They're on the abomination of a tour that the All Stars tour is.

I get nauseous just thinking about that tour.

tancanada
05-08-2011, 09:59 PM
^Yeah I aw that, wtf was that tour booker thinking?!

synestershadows
05-08-2011, 10:06 PM
^Yeah I aw that, wtf was that tour booker thinking?!
Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$

thecrowing33
05-08-2011, 10:07 PM
Well... maybe. I've never heard of As Hell Retreats' music, but judging by their name they probably sound pretty lol too.

Actually, they're pretty decent. They're progressive deathcore. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6FEHT_nT_g

asator
05-08-2011, 10:07 PM
Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$ Scene kid $$$
One of the better things you've said recently :golfclap:
Actually, they're pretty decent. They're progressive deathcore. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6FEHT_nT_g
Yeah this isn't very good. Definitely not as bad as I expected though.

thecrowing33
05-08-2011, 10:19 PM
Yeah this isn't very good. Definitely not as bad as I expected though.

Yeah, they're probably the best band on the tour tbh. I'm not gonna go to STP anyway, i've played with these guys like 3 times

nashawa
05-08-2011, 10:21 PM
Yeah, they're probably the best band on the tour tbh.
You realize The Chariot is on that tour, right?

thecrowing33
05-08-2011, 10:25 PM
You realize The Chariot is on that tour, right?

haha no I actually didn't, my friend texted me the line up the other day and I must've forgotten. I'm definitely going this year if it comes to Nashville.

synestershadows
05-08-2011, 10:45 PM
Actually, they're pretty decent. They're progressive deathcore. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6FEHT_nT_g
Yet another band to overuse the djent sound and steven slate samples.

tancanada
05-08-2011, 10:46 PM
Actually, they're pretty decent. They're progressive deathcore. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6FEHT_nT_g

Their older stuff sounds like Suicide Silence accepted Jesus. This is even lamer than that.

GodofCheesecake
05-08-2011, 11:02 PM
Their older stuff sounds like Suicide Silence accepted Jesus.
Sooooo... Impending Doom?

synestershadows
05-08-2011, 11:04 PM
We should make a thread about GOOD christian metalcore bands.

Off the top of my head:
The Chariot
Saints Never Surrender
Life In Your Way
Gray Lines of Perfection
Hundredth
Strongarm

asator
05-08-2011, 11:05 PM
We should make a thread about GOOD christian metalcore bands.

Off the top of my head:
The Chariot
Saints Never Surrender
Life In Your Way
Gray Lines of Perfection
Hundredth
Strongarm
Get the fuck out.

synestershadows
05-08-2011, 11:05 PM
Get the fuck out.
HEY! Hundredth is good. Fuck you.

EDIT: Forgot 7 Angels 7 Plagues.

asator
05-08-2011, 11:09 PM
Dude. Hundredth rip their sound 100% from The Ghost Inside, who are already just a mash up of 2 sounds they directly stole from other bands, and thusly not a good band to be ripping off. Hundredth are just them, but worse, and with really cringey lyrics and awful clean vocals. Fuck that band.

GodofCheesecake
05-08-2011, 11:09 PM
And August Burns Red.

synestershadows
05-08-2011, 11:10 PM
Dude. Hundredth rip their sound 100% from The Ghost Inside, who are already just a mash up of 2 sounds they directly stole from other bands, and thusly not a good band to be ripping off. Hundredth are just them, but worse, and with really cringey lyrics and awful clean vocals. Fuck that band.
Even though you like TGI. Also, I think Hundredth sounds more like It Prevails than TGI. Almost like a mix between the two.

EDIT: I also have a soft spot for A Plea For Purging, mostly cuz they make hilarious music videos and don't take themselves completely serious like For Today does.

tancanada
05-08-2011, 11:12 PM
http://www.thewellleeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Hundredth.jpg

TheBDanAbstract
05-08-2011, 11:13 PM
Dude. Hundredth rip their sound 100% from The Ghost Inside, who are already just a mash up of 2 sounds they directly stole from other bands, and thusly not a good band to be ripping off. Hundredth are just them, but worse, and with really cringey lyrics and awful clean vocals. Fuck that band.

This. This exactly.

nashawa
05-08-2011, 11:19 PM
http://www.thewellleeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Hundredth.jpg
So Froggie from the Little Rascals is in a band now?

asator
05-08-2011, 11:20 PM
I like the Ghost Inside in a "this is really unoriginal, but it's kinda fun, and I was really into this band 2 or 3 years ago" way. What they do doesn't actually take any skill. It's just fairly entertaining, and they're decent live/nice guys.

Hundredth can go suck a dick, especially their frontman. He looks like Kermit the frog and Miss Piggy finally got to it and had a kid.

synestershadows
05-08-2011, 11:23 PM
I like the Ghost Inside in a "this is really unoriginal, but it's kinda fun, and I was really into this band 2 or 3 years ago" way. What they do doesn't actually take any skill. It's just fairly entertaining, and they're decent live/nice guys.

Hundredth can go suck a dick, especially their frontman. He looks like Kermit the frog and Miss Piggy finally got to it and had a kid.
But I've met him before and he's chill.

nashawa
05-08-2011, 11:27 PM
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp256/chestermcmaster/jordanwarkol9zc.jpg

Seriously, it's uncanny.

thecrowing33
05-09-2011, 09:59 PM
Is Letlive Christian? I haven't listened to them enough to determine if they are or not.

MustangMan311
05-09-2011, 10:05 PM
Is Letlive Christian? I haven't listened to them enough to determine if they are or not.
Not at all.

Kyle<3
05-09-2011, 10:13 PM
Yea not in the least bit haha.

synestershadows
05-09-2011, 10:19 PM
"**** drugs and **** straight edge. Those are both the ****ing things that got the best of my friends."

Yeah. Not Christian.

thecrowing33
05-09-2011, 10:56 PM
I don't see anywhere in the bible where it says you can't cuss...? :shrug:

But this is bullshit, Letlive is allowed to play at Rocketown on the Illuminatour with Underoath but SFTP can't.

EDIT: And they replaced them with War of Ages. :mad:

synestershadows
05-09-2011, 11:03 PM
I don't see anywhere in the bible where it says you can't cuss...? :shrug:

But this is bullshit, Letlive is allowed to play at Rocketown on the Illuminatour with Underoath but SFTP can't.

EDIT: And they replaced them with War of Ages. :mad:
Wait. What's this bullshit?

thecrowing33
05-09-2011, 11:13 PM
Wait. What's this bullshit?

Yeah, you read it right. They're not allowing SFTP to play at Rocketown for cussing. But they're allowing Letlive to play. AND they're replacing SFTP with War of Ages. I feel annoying bitching about Rocketown all the time, but this is just ridiculous.

synestershadows
05-09-2011, 11:14 PM
Yeah, you read it right. They're not allowing SFTP to play at Rocketown for cussing. But they're allowing Letlive to play. AND they're replacing SFTP with War of Ages. I feel annoying bitching about Rocketown all the time, but this is just ridiculous.
Dude. They can't do that. It's called free speech.

Kyle<3
05-09-2011, 11:15 PM
Thats stupid...

EDIT: Haha, no Andrew... Lots of websites don't allow you to curse. Although I don't see whats wrong with "cursing." They're just culturally defined words.

thecrowing33
05-09-2011, 11:16 PM
Dude. They can't do that. It's called free speech.

Apparently, they can. They even banned my band.

synestershadows
05-09-2011, 11:21 PM
Can someone link me?

punkforlife93
05-09-2011, 11:27 PM
I don't get what's so good about this band.

thecrowing33
05-09-2011, 11:29 PM
Can someone link me?

****, nevermind, it said War of Ages this morning and they had it like that since the show was announced. I guess they changed it this morning. My bad. But still, my band is banned from here.

asator
05-15-2011, 10:01 PM
But I've met him before and he's chill.
I've met the singer from Oceano and he was a really nice dude, what's your point?

synestershadows
05-15-2011, 10:09 PM
I've met the singer from Oceano and he was a really nice dude, what's your point?
But Oceano's just an all around horrible band.

Kyle<3
05-15-2011, 10:10 PM
I've met the singer from Oceano and he was a really nice dude, what's your point?

WHAT IS IT GOOD FOORRR ABSOLUTELY NOTHINNGGGG

Thebiz
05-16-2011, 02:30 AM
I don't get what's so good about this band.

They remind me of mid-era Glassjaw. And Glassjaw is good as shit.

nashawa
05-16-2011, 08:10 AM
They remind me of mid-era Glassjaw. And Glassjaw is good as shit.
Someone doesn't have ears.

(PS, It's you).

asator
05-16-2011, 08:13 AM
But Oceano's just an all around horrible band.
So are Hundredth!

tancanada
05-16-2011, 08:23 AM
Someone doesn't have ears.

(PS, It's you).

Oh shut up

Kyle<3
05-16-2011, 12:09 PM
Idk, they give off a cool vibe. Some of the songs I like, and them some I don't. I like his vocals too.

tancanada
05-16-2011, 12:17 PM
^You talking about Oceano? My mouthwash gargling vocals are better than his.

nashawa
05-16-2011, 12:19 PM
Oh shut up
Hey Tanner, go listen to La Dispute and pretend you're cool.

EDIT: Wait... this isn't the Of Mice and Men thread? Oops. I apologize to Thebiz.

^You talking about Oceano? My mouthwash gargling vocals are better than his.
Oh, I get it, you get to be a douche but I don't.

Grow up, man. Pathetic.

Kyle<3
05-16-2011, 01:08 PM
You guys are funny.

I was talking about letlive... haha, definitely not oceano.

nashawa
05-16-2011, 01:26 PM
Seriously though, I thought Thebiz said Of Mice and Men sounded like Glassjaw, that's why I was furious.

TheBDanAbstract
05-16-2011, 01:31 PM
Seriously though, I thought Thebiz said Of Mice and Men sounded like Glassjaw, that's why I was furious.


Completely good reason to be upset, no? Dude on the internet doesn't agree with you?

RAGE!

nashawa
05-16-2011, 01:59 PM
Completely good reason to be upset, no? Dude on the internet doesn't agree with you?

RAGE!
You're an idiot if you think Glassjaw sounds like OFaM. That's not an issue that can be debated.

Kyle<3
05-16-2011, 02:00 PM
Seriously though, I thought Thebiz said Of Mice and Men sounded like Glassjaw, that's why I was furious.

I wouldn't be mad... it would just be funny.

Although come on man, use your head.

nashawa
05-16-2011, 02:03 PM
I wouldn't be mad... it would just be funny.

Although come on man, use your head.
I. Thought. I. Was. In. The. Other. Thread.

They were one after another when I posted that and I just clicked on the wrong one.

Am I not the one who was bitching (sardonically) about their lifting of the Glassjaw formula? Why would I be confused by someone who thought they sounded similar?

TheBDanAbstract
05-16-2011, 02:07 PM
You're an idiot if you think Glassjaw sounds like OFaM. That's not an issue that can be debated.

That's why no one is debating it...

Kyle<3
05-16-2011, 02:19 PM
I. Thought. I. Was. In. The. Other. Thread.

They were one after another when I posted that and I just clicked on the wrong one.

Am I not the one who was bitching (sardonically) about their lifting of the Glassjaw formula? Why would I be confused by someone who thought they sounded similar?

I'm just playing with you Nash. <3 :haha:

synestershadows
05-16-2011, 03:14 PM
Completely good reason to be upset, no? Dude on the internet doesn't agree with you?

RAGE!
But you see, saying OMAM sounds like Glassjaw is the dumbest thing you could ever say.

TheBDanAbstract
05-16-2011, 03:15 PM
But you see, saying OMAM sounds like Glassjaw is the dumbest thing you could ever say.

My whole comment was a joke u guise.

And yes, I am aware of that. So are a lot of people. That's why it was never said.

nashawa
05-16-2011, 03:42 PM
I'm just playing with you Nash. <3 :haha:
I swear to god I'll kill you.

Kyle<3
05-16-2011, 04:13 PM
I swear to god I'll kill you.

*hug*

nashawa
05-16-2011, 04:25 PM
There's an emote for that:

:hug:

Guy101
05-16-2011, 06:41 PM
This band is AMAZING. One of my favourite bands at the moment, Fake History is just incredible. And have you SEEN them live? He's one of the best frontmen.ever.

nashawa
05-16-2011, 07:36 PM
Lol. Yeah, okay. Clearly you don't go to many shows.

Kyle<3
05-17-2011, 12:18 AM
There's an emote for that:

:hug:

Well sorry Mr. UG smilies expert.

Thebiz
05-17-2011, 02:10 AM
Seriously though, I thought Thebiz said Of Mice and Men sounded like Glassjaw, that's why I was furious.

lmao. I am aware Of Mice And Men is just Attack Attack! without techno influences. I would definitely deserve a bitchsmack if I thought they sounded similar.

Besides, Glassjaw and letlive both are in much higher echelons of originality than OMAM.

Guy101
05-20-2011, 03:27 AM
Lol. Yeah, okay. Clearly you don't go to many shows.
OR maybe I just rate him? May have made a bit of an overstatement lol, but he's definitely very good.

TheBDanAbstract
05-21-2011, 01:55 AM
Lol. Yeah, okay. Clearly you don't go to many shows.

You obviously haven't seen a letlive. show. I just did. It wasn't The Dillinger Escape Plan, but their frontman has crazy energy. Threw the mic into a hole in the roof, and yanked it down just in time to start singing again. He even kicked over his own merch table, and after the song said "Whichever one of you that kicked over my merch table, I'ma **** you up." :haha:

nashawa
05-21-2011, 01:56 AM
Whoa! He seems like a cool dude and totally original! I've never been to a house show with 5 local bands who all acted like that. He's clearly something special.

TheBDanAbstract
05-21-2011, 02:05 AM
Whoa! He seems like a cool dude and totally original! I've never been to a house show with 5 local bands who all acted like that. He's clearly something special.

Guy who thinks he's cool by trying his hardest to act like an asshole on the internet, and clearly thinks the only way to be good is to be completely and totally original. Welp, Black Flag did most of everything you can think of, so no one else is good enough. Everyone listen to only Black Flag for the rest of your life and regard everything else as stale and generic.

Does that sum up pretty much everything you've ever said... ever?

nashawa
05-21-2011, 02:08 AM
:haha: What the hell?

Were you dropped on your head as a kid?

MustangMan311
05-21-2011, 02:11 AM
:haha: What the hell?

Were you dropped on your head as a kid?
Just let him be, man. He finds a sense of entitlement in sticking up for bands that people dislike.

nashawa
05-21-2011, 02:13 AM
I don't even dislike this band. Only a few songs.

Guy101
05-23-2011, 10:43 AM
Why are you patronising peoples opinions then? People think he's a good frontman live, that's fine isn't it?

nashawa
05-23-2011, 02:39 PM
Why are you patronising peoples opinions then? People think he's a good frontman live, that's fine isn't it?
Unnecessary bump.

But their opinion is that he's one of the best.

My opinion is that those people are wrong.

You see how opinions work? Don't pull that card unless you want to be mocked and look like a hypocrite.

Guy101
05-23-2011, 06:19 PM
Unnecessary bump.

But their opinion is that he's one of the best.

My opinion is that those people are wrong.

You see how opinions work? Don't pull that card unless you want to be mocked and look like a hypocrite.

Yes I see how opinions work, it's the way you go about saying it though. Disagree all you want, that's absolutely fine - but there's no need to be patronising.

nashawa
05-23-2011, 06:58 PM
If it calls for it, I'll be patronizing.

It's spelled with a "z" by the way, but that's okay.

TheBDanAbstract
05-23-2011, 08:00 PM
Unnecessary bump.

But their opinion is that he's one of the best.

My opinion is that those people are wrong.

You see how opinions work? Don't pull that card unless you want to be mocked and look like a hypocrite.

A) I never said that. Actually anywhere. I don't even think anyone on here has said that(don't care enough to check, but I'm sure you will). I just think he puts on a good show.

B) Your opinion is that our opinion(which you somehow altered and generalized to anyone who had anything positive to say about him) is wrong? In my opinion, your opinion on my opinion is wrong. We can keep this going

C) I don't even like this band that much, but their singer did keep my eyes fixed on him at pretty much all times. For a guitarist, that's a pretty difficult task. I don't even remember looking at Tommy Rodgers at all when I saw BTBAM.


EDIT: Oh, and he's actually a really good singer.

nashawa
05-23-2011, 08:18 PM
A) I never said that. Actually anywhere. I don't even think anyone on here has said that(don't care enough to check, but I'm sure you will). I just think he puts on a good show.
This band is AMAZING. One of my favourite bands at the moment, Fake History is just incredible. And have you SEEN them live? He's one of the best frontmen.ever.

Don't pretend that you're above checking for proof that my point is valid.

That just makes you an ignorant dick.

TheBDanAbstract
05-23-2011, 08:38 PM
Don't pretend that you're above checking for proof that my point is valid.

That just makes you an ignorant dick.


You're right, how silly of me. How could I have forgotten Guy101's wise opinion? It's validity rang through my ears and stuck a chord in my heart. But you also used the word they, insinuating that we all though he was the best or one of the best frontmen ever. Your point was that we all apparently thought that, and I don't.

nashawa
05-23-2011, 08:41 PM
Well, you defended his opinion, that makes the use of "they" acceptable.

TheBDanAbstract
05-23-2011, 08:58 PM
Well, you defended his opinion, that makes the use of "they" acceptable.

Well I wasn't as much as defending his opinion as I was making an argument about this comment:

Lol. Yeah, okay. Clearly you don't go to many shows.

I know there's a lot of good frontmen, but you acted like this guy was a scrub in a sea of millions. I mean, if you can name 25 people who put on as good as a show as he does, more power to you, but I can't. These guys are definitely up there in my top 20 live bands I've ever seen.

catalyst329
08-04-2011, 07:09 PM
I cant believe Jason Butler was voted the #1 rock star in the world today by Kerrang. Thats awesome

nashawa
08-04-2011, 07:24 PM
No, that's Kerrang being retarded as per usual.

Now you kids can never bitch about them being underrated ever again.

catalyst329
08-04-2011, 07:26 PM
hahaha

synestershadows
08-04-2011, 08:51 PM
Yeah, I thought that was a bit ridiculous. They're not even that big of a band. Are they "rockstars" in the UK?

datskramzkid
08-04-2011, 11:45 PM
Yeah, well I think Oli Sykes was voted #2, actually.

But yeah, it seems that letlive. only tours in the UK, which is really weird. Like, I assume they're way bigger out there, but still, since hearing about them whenever it is they got popular, I've only seen them do UK tours.

Oh, and lol at people arguing with Nash.

MustangMan311
08-04-2011, 11:52 PM
Uh, they're on a huge US tour right now, and I believe it's their fourth one or so since Fake History was released.

datskramzkid
08-05-2011, 12:01 AM
Oh yeah.

Well, I don't really follow these guys.

asator
08-05-2011, 12:03 AM
They're not particularly big here.

synestershadows
08-05-2011, 01:14 AM
Uh, they're on a huge US tour right now, and I believe it's their fourth one or so since Fake History was released.
Yeah, but they're always opening.

TheBDanAbstract
08-05-2011, 01:46 PM
Yeah, but they're always opening.


Thats how Mychildren Mybride got popular for 15 minutes. Go on 43 tours as the opener, maybe someone will start to like you.

EndTheRapture51
08-05-2011, 04:31 PM
Letlive are the opening band on Enter Shikari's UK tour. They're below Your Demise, and Your Demise aren't particularly good.

All I thought letlive's singer was famous for wass beating up security guys at gigs.

datskramzkid
08-05-2011, 07:01 PM
Lol MyChildrenMyBride...

You want to know how much MTL's scene sucks?

They're headlining the same venue as Underoath.

Kyle<3
08-05-2011, 08:17 PM
letlive and Underoath were on tour together I think.

synestershadows
08-05-2011, 08:48 PM
letlive and Underoath were on tour together I think.
Illuminatour?

MustangMan311
08-05-2011, 09:17 PM
That's the huge US tour I was referring to.

Kyle<3
08-05-2011, 09:30 PM
Illuminatour?

Yeh. I was going to go to the one show in NY where Stray was headlining with just letlive (without Underoath and Times of Grace, which would have made it very awesome as opposed to bearable), but all my friends had work.

synestershadows
08-05-2011, 09:36 PM
Yeh. I was going to go to the one show in NY where Stray was headlining with just letlive (without Underoath and Times of Grace, which would have made it very awesome as opposed to bearable), but all my friends had work.
**** your friends.

MustangMan311
08-05-2011, 10:10 PM
Never miss a good show because no one else will go or you'll end up kicking yourself more times than not.

Kyle<3
08-05-2011, 10:56 PM
It was a long drive, probably 2 hours or so. I love SFTP and letlive is alright, but it would not have been worth it to go all that way alone.

MustangMan311
08-05-2011, 11:44 PM
Hey man, if you like the band enough, two hours is completely worth it, but oh well.

Kyle<3
08-06-2011, 01:02 AM
Well not really I mean, I live smack in the middle of New York and Philly, and its pretty much impossible SFTP would never come back to either of those cities.

Which is already true because I'm seeing them in October with Periphery.

Guy101
08-21-2011, 06:57 AM
They're playing at the Fighting Cocks in Kingston in September, pretty dam excited.

EndTheRapture51
08-21-2011, 02:58 PM
I'm definitely going to check them out at Reading Festival, and I'm seeing them with Enter Shikari in October, can't wait. awesome awesome band.

DreadEnds
08-21-2011, 06:32 PM
I'll be seeing them with Enter Shikari too. Can't wait to see Your Demise on that show as well.

InstantAXonHero
08-21-2011, 07:26 PM
Pass on all accords.

!jared!
09-05-2011, 06:48 PM
People in the Uk are soooo lucky... I really wish that the Enter Shikari, Your Demise, and Letlive tour in America aswell. That is one of the best line ups i have ever seen.

tancanada
09-06-2011, 08:27 PM
Lucky ******s, the only only they're touring the US they're with Woe, Is Me and Miss May I -___-

asator
09-06-2011, 09:46 PM
People in the Uk are soooo lucky... I really wish that the Enter Shikari, Your Demise, and Letlive tour in America aswell. That is one of the best line ups i have ever seen.
You haven't seen many lineups, have you? :p:

tancanada
09-06-2011, 10:43 PM
Hey man, that is a pretty good line up :(

asator
09-06-2011, 11:29 PM
Yeah I just love watching scene kids pretend to be Glassjaw, then getting to see a band that used to be good playing a bunch of generic, cringey shit with a useless new vocalist, then to top it all off I get to enjoy some pseudo-political, watered down nonsense from a band that used to put on a good show! Wow, where can I buy tickets?!?!

(I know I'm being a dick, I'm ok with that)

synestershadows
09-07-2011, 12:55 AM
Glassjaw? Scene kids?

nashawa
09-07-2011, 01:13 AM
Yeah I just love watching scene kids pretend to be Glassjaw, then getting to see a band that used to be good playing a bunch of generic, cringey shit with a useless new vocalist, then to top it all off I get to enjoy some pseudo-political, watered down nonsense from a band that used to put on a good show! Wow, where can I buy tickets?!?!

(I know I'm being a dick, I'm ok with that)
What I don't get about ES is that they're spoiled suburban kids. What do they have to dissent about? Moreover, why should I listen to them?

EndTheRapture51
09-07-2011, 04:34 AM
What I don't get about ES is that they're spoiled suburban kids. What do they have to dissent about? Moreover, why should I listen to them?

I'm from a middle class family, doesn't mean I can't have left wing political views.

ES are a bit annoying with the politics thing, but they still put on an awesome show. their set at Reading Festival was one of the best of the weekend.

In fact, letlive, Enter Shikari and Your Demise all put on awesome sets at Reading, 3 of the best bands I saw.

And Letlive aren't scene kids, at all. Look at them:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr5975jkbn1qdcqg1o1_500.jpg
Not exactly Bring Me The Horizon are they?

And for the record, Your Demise are way better live with the new vocalist.

asator
09-07-2011, 08:40 AM
I'm from a middle class family, doesn't mean I can't have left wing political views.

ES are a bit annoying with the politics thing, but they still put on an awesome show. their set at Reading Festival was one of the best of the weekend.

In fact, letlive, Enter Shikari and Your Demise all put on awesome sets at Reading, 3 of the best bands I saw.

And Letlive aren't scene kids, at all. Look at them:
letlive
Not exactly Bring Me The Horizon are they?

And for the record, Your Demise are way better live with the new vocalist.
Because dressing like hipsters isn't scene at all? I meant more the fact that they've popped up out of nowhere when Glassjaw / post-hardcore in general is having a resurgance in popularity and shamelessy stolen their sound. Then on their recent UK tour they literally had the audacity to claim that Reading fest was the first time they'd even heard of Daryl Palumbo and/or Glassjaw...

I haven't seen Enter Shikari recently, but I've heard accounts and seen videos, and they seem to have started standing around looking like rockstars and occasionally jumping around a bit while they spout a bunch of pretentious, misinformed cliches about the war in Iaq or whatever it is they're pretending to care about these days. Their music has never been particularly good, but they used to be so much fun live, and they wrote songs about laser tag and stuff.

And for the record, Your Demise are fucking not better live with the new vocalist. If you're into nasal guitar tone, choruses that sound like Bullet For My Valentine (worth noting Ed can't even sing in tune live) and sampled backing tracks as intros, then I guess you'd probably enjoy fighting your way through the 14 year olds to get a good look at "all their sweet tattoos!", but if you've ever seen YD play with George on vocals then I'd hope you'd see my point. With him it was half an hour of straight-up, fun hardcore, hilarious stage banter and the band all running around and giving everything they had.

When I think of Your Demise, I expect simple, metallic hardcore with some stupid lyrics about being straight edge. This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixp7Ub65DPQ&feature=related) is what they're like live now: stupid backing tracks, no stage presence, awful songs and a hipster prick for a frontman who's main interest include nailing all the stock "hardcore vocalist" moves, writing awful choruses which he can't sing and trying to make everyone forget that he used to be a hairdresser.

EndTheRapture51
09-07-2011, 01:50 PM
I've seen Your Demise with both singers live. With George they were awful, with Ed they were good. That's the bottom line and theres nothing more to say about it.

Dressing like Hipsters isn't scene, its hipster. Yeah I agree that Letlive sound a lot like Glassjaw a lot of the time but you do know that Fake History is their third album? It's not like they've suddenly popped up in the past year and decided to record a Glassjaw sounding album.

For the record, yeah Enter Shikari may have changed direction in their lyrics, but that's what bands do, they can't write about being teenagers forever so I can understand why they've changed direction, They were incredible at Reading festival, as were Your Demise and Letlive. Plus they are one of the hardest working bands around. So many bands nowadays just do 5 date UK tours and short Europe tours, but Shikari recorded an album, went straight out to do Warped Tour in the US, came back and did Reading and Leeds, straight off to do a European tour (not a short one) and then they're playing pretty much everywhere in the UK. They're one of the most hardworking bands out there right now.

asator
09-07-2011, 02:00 PM
I've seen Your Demise with both singers live. With George they were awful, with Ed they were good. That's the bottom line and theres nothing more to say about it.

Dressing like Hipsters isn't scene, its hipster. Yeah I agree that Letlive sound a lot like Glassjaw a lot of the time but you do know that Fake History is their third album? It's not like they've suddenly popped up in the past year and decided to record a Glassjaw sounding album.

For the record, yeah Enter Shikari may have changed direction in their lyrics, but that's what bands do, they can't write about being teenagers forever so I can understand why they've changed direction, They were incredible at Reading festival, as were Your Demise and Letlive. Plus they are one of the hardest working bands around. So many bands nowadays just do 5 date UK tours and short Europe tours, but Shikari recorded an album, went straight out to do Warped Tour in the US, came back and did Reading and Leeds, straight off to do a European tour (not a short one) and then they're playing pretty much everywhere in the UK. They're one of the most hardworking bands out there right now.
I like how you assume I haven't seen Your Demise with both singers. With George, they were one of the most fun hardcore bands in the UK, with Ed they're a watered down modern rock band with some shouting, and they couldn't play their own simple, childish songs.

There's a difference between scene and hipster? News to me. They can write as many albums as they like, I shall assume that one of two things has happened. Either they've been ripping off Glassjaw for 3 albums and people only noticed them when the newest one came out, or they were doing something different until they decided to rip off Glassjaw and thusly get noticed. Regardless, nobody had heard of them until Fake History came out.

If Enter Shikari had matured and stopped writing stupid songs and done something respectable that would be fine. But instead they jumped on the mother of all bandwagons and started pedalling the sort of vaguely rebellious political shit that the likes of Green Day and Sum 41 turned to when they wanted to look grown up. It's the sort of lyrics a band comes up with when they don't feel strongly about anything but they want to look intelligent. If Enter Shikari really cared about solving all the problems they preach about, they'd be using the massive amounts of cash their parents fund the band with to do something charitable about it.

EndTheRapture51
09-07-2011, 02:07 PM
I've seen Your Demise with both singers, the first time with George may have been right before he left, but it wasn't good, they couldn't play their songs, they were devoid of energy, they didn't engage the crowd. Second time I saw them was at Reading and it was one of my favourite performances of the weekend.

Scene and hipster is pretty much opposed. The stereotype of scene kids are those who listen to BMTH etc., hipster stereotype would be listening to indie bands and The Smiths.

Enter Shikari can't just nick their parents money and give it to charity, it really doesn't work like that. Sure your parents will be willing to fund you if you're out there doing something with your life, for example being in a band, but if you just asked your parents for money to give away to homeless people, well then that's ridiculous.

asator
09-07-2011, 02:12 PM
I've seen Your Demise with both singers, the first time with George may have been right before he left, but it wasn't good, they couldn't play their songs, they were devoid of energy, they didn't engage the crowd. Second time I saw them was at Reading and it was one of my favourite performances of the weekend.

Scene and hipster is pretty much opposed. The stereotype of scene kids are those who listen to BMTH etc., hipster stereotype would be listening to indie bands and The Smiths.

Enter Shikari can't just nick their parents money and give it to charity, it really doesn't work like that. Sure your parents will be willing to fund you if you're out there doing something with your life, for example being in a band, but if you just asked your parents for money to give away to homeless people, well then that's ridiculous.
I did hear that George stopped caring towards the end of his time in YD, which is a shame. But he used to be incredble. And the music was just more respectable then. I don't get how anyone can overlook the way they suddenly decided to start ripping off other bands left right and centre and add horrible guitar tone and clean vocals to their sound.

And the definition of scene kids I've always heard is that they're kids who jump on whatever scene is big at the time. And the main one for a while has been awful metalcore. And hipsters are people who jump on whatever is "hip" and act like they were into it before it was big. So...same thing? Also, I listen to indie bands and the Smiths are one of my all-time favourite bands. Are you calling me a hipster? :p:

It's a well known fact that Enter Shikari are a bunch of spoiled rich kids. They could easily be doing a lot more to help people they supposedly care about, whilst still playing interesting music with lyrics that don't make the listener cringe.

synestershadows
09-07-2011, 02:25 PM
I seriously don't think letlive. sounds like Glassjaw that much.

nashawa
09-07-2011, 04:14 PM
I'm from a middle class family, doesn't mean I can't have left wing political views.
Yeah, but complaining about "the man" when that man gave you all of the breaks you've received in your entire life is wholly hypocritical and dishonest.


Scene and hipster is pretty much opposed. The stereotype of scene kids are those who listen to BMTH etc., hipster stereotype would be listening to indie bands and The Smiths.

... you seriously can't see the similarities? They're both groups of people who put their style above almost all else in life, they're both incredibly ignorant about all other opinions but their own and they're usually involved in the music scene. Literally the only difference between the two is the bands they listen to.

Kyle<3
09-07-2011, 04:26 PM
Hahaha, you guys are such dicks.

EDIT: <3

nashawa
09-07-2011, 05:12 PM
I think you're just easily offended. I'm not really being a dick.

TheBDanAbstract
09-07-2011, 05:49 PM
I seriously don't think letlive. sounds like Glassjaw that much.

Me either. They certainly are influenced by them, but they aren't a ripoff.


But to these guys, every band in the same genre that comes after a certain band is a ripoff. Which is true if it becomes watered down and over saturated, ala Asking Alexandria and etc with the new wave pop-metalcore bullshit, but for a band like Glassjaw that is pretty much impossible to mimic, not really.

tancanada
09-07-2011, 07:05 PM
Sooo from this argument, what I have gathered is that Glassjaw ('good music' by the hardcore forums standards) = letlive. (who sound like Glassjaw according to posters in the thread).

I for one love ll. and hate Glassjaw, so fight me or something.
Also if you have heard the members of ll. talk about their music, or hell, even LISTENED to the band for that matter, you would know that they themselves are not 'scene kids'. They became popular with the resurgence of the post-hardcore scene. If we were to start calling letlive. a scene band, we might as well throw Defeater, La Dispute and Thrice to the curb too, as they are all back on a rise to popularity (where I live at least).

nashawa
09-07-2011, 07:11 PM
Sooo from this argument, what I have gathered is that Glassjaw ('good music' by the hardcore forums standards) = letlive. (who sound like Glassjaw according to posters in the thread).

I for one love ll. and hate Glassjaw, so fight me or something.
Also if you have heard the members of ll. talk about their music, or hell, even LISTENED to the band for that matter, you would know that they themselves are not 'scene kids'. They became popular with the resurgence of the post-hardcore scene. If we were to start calling letlive. a scene band, we might as well throw Defeater, La Dispute and Thrice to the curb too, as they are all back on a rise to popularity (where I live at least).
Who are you talking to? I don't understand this post.
Me either. They certainly are influenced by them, but they aren't a ripoff.


But to these guys, every band in the same genre that comes after a certain band is a ripoff. Which is true if it becomes watered down and over saturated, ala Asking Alexandria and etc with the new wave pop-metalcore bullshit, but for a band like Glassjaw that is pretty much impossible to mimic, not really. Unfortunately, I understand what's being said in this one.

Just gonna leave a big ol' faceplam here for ya to pick up on yer way out :facepalm:

tancanada
09-07-2011, 07:16 PM
Who are you talking to? I don't understand this post.


I dunno, whoever accused letlive. of being copies of Glassjaw and trend hoppers

nashawa
09-07-2011, 07:17 PM
I hear similarities, but even I don't think that. I mean, it's hardly a Norma Jean/Botch situation, where not only the music was copied, but trends were emulated/exploited as well.

tancanada
09-07-2011, 07:18 PM
Hmm, I guess you weren't the one to say that then, my bad. :p: But yeah, I hear tons of similarities. I don't like Glassjaw at all though for whatever reason.

EDIT: Yeah NJ/Botch is a lot more glaring than that

synestershadows
09-07-2011, 07:21 PM
Manterby did.

/pointing fingers

asator
09-07-2011, 07:26 PM
Everything good they do, Glassjaw did first. And everything they mix that with is just boring radio rock bullshit.

tancanada
09-07-2011, 07:32 PM
Post-hardcore bands aren't allowed to have catchy choruses now?

asator
09-07-2011, 07:33 PM
That's not what I meant at all.

tancanada
09-07-2011, 07:39 PM
I dunno then, the most radio-friendly things I hear in ll. is their choruses. I guess I could see Muther gaining some mainstream popularity if anyone ever played it, but beyond that I don't see anything from them being really easily acceptable like that.

nashawa
09-08-2011, 01:43 AM
Post-hardcore bands aren't allowed to have catchy choruses now?
Post-hardcore bands aren't allowed to sound like Linkin Park, if that's what you're trying to say.

Reductio ad absurdum is not appreciated. It makes you look like you have no respect for anyone.

EndTheRapture51
09-08-2011, 04:03 AM
Accusing bands of being radio-rock on these forums is getting ridiculous now. You're not going to get played on daytime Radio in the UK unless you are popular, it doesn't matter if you have catchy choruses. On Radio 1 the only heavy band I hear on the radio time to time is Bring Me The Horizon, and they're hardly "radio-rock". Letlive aren't going to get radio plays unless it's on a dedicated rock show, neither are Your Demise.

Guy101
09-10-2011, 06:23 AM
Seeing them in Kingston tonight in some tiny little venue, so stoked!

nashawa
09-10-2011, 11:58 AM
Accusing bands of being radio-rock on these forums is getting ridiculous now. You're not going to get played on daytime Radio in the UK unless you are popular, it doesn't matter if you have catchy choruses. On Radio 1 the only heavy band I hear on the radio time to time is Bring Me The Horizon, and they're hardly "radio-rock". Letlive aren't going to get radio plays unless it's on a dedicated rock show, neither are Your Demise.
Here's one example of why your point is convoluted and makes little to no sense:

Knapsack never got radio play up here either and they were an incredibly marketable 90's alt rock band. They were pretty radio-rocky at times and never got airplay. A band's sound does not guarantee airplay and "radio-rock" is a term used to describe a certain sound more than it is "the chance a band will get radio play."

Redundancy so you will understand.

Your first sentence makes it seem like you understand this, but your second sentence more or less shoots all hope of a point you could have possibly made in the foot.

Like, do you just write things without thinking about what you're actually trying to say?

EndTheRapture51
09-10-2011, 12:15 PM
Like, do you just write things without thinking about what you're actually trying to say?

No, I clearly just have a different thought process from you?

nashawa
09-10-2011, 12:47 PM
No, I clearly just have a different thought process from you?
Why is that phrased as a question?

Guy101
09-11-2011, 06:14 AM
Band killed it last night. And they're all the most humble dudes with so much time for everyone.

TheBDanAbstract
09-11-2011, 12:25 PM
Band killed it last night. And they're all the most humble dudes with so much time for everyone.


Blasphemy! Daryl Palumbo says neigh!!!!

^expect responses like that for saying something good about letlive.

GodofCheesecake
09-11-2011, 02:02 PM
Daryl Palumbo is a horse?

nashawa
09-11-2011, 02:19 PM
Blasphemy! Daryl Palumbo says neigh!!!!

^expect responses like that for saying something good about letlive.
What a stupid post.

If he had fun, then he had fun. No one's going to argue that with him.

The Spoon
09-11-2011, 02:23 PM
Daryl Palumbo is a horse?
:haha

Subtle humor.

synestershadows
09-11-2011, 02:33 PM
Daryl Palumbo is a horse?
:haha: That's what I was thinking.

TheBDanAbstract
09-11-2011, 03:07 PM
Daryl Palumbo is a horse?

Lulz. :haha:



What a stupid post.

If he had fun, then he had fun. No one's going to argue that with him.

You yourself argued when I said the same thing about seeing letlive. and when I complimented their singer and their live show. :rolleyes:

nashawa
09-11-2011, 07:26 PM
You yourself argued when I said the same thing about seeing letlive. and when I complimented their singer and their live show. :rolleyes:
Again, a stupid post. You're a champ.

All I said was that if you consider him one of the best frontmen you've ever seen, you don't go to many shows. Which I stand by.

Do you wake up in the morning and make a conscious choice put on your asshat, or is it surgically stuck to your head?

Guy101
09-11-2011, 07:36 PM
He should teach classes in being a frontman. Jasons the man!

TheBDanAbstract
09-11-2011, 07:58 PM
Again, a stupid post. You're a champ.

All I said was that if you consider him one of the best frontmen you've ever seen, you don't go to many shows. Which I stand by.

Do you wake up in the morning and make a conscious choice put on your asshat, or is it surgically stuck to your head?


So, you're arguing that even though you made fun of an opinion I have of letlive.(and others, as documented by the thread), it was unthinkable to make a satirized response to his opinion of letlive. because "nobody's gonna make fun" of his opinion, even though you've admitted to making fun of my opinion?


About as often as you wake up with that inferiority complex and decide attempting to be an internet bully is the best way to countermeasure it. But by all means, if the anonymity is an outlet for your anger, continue the tough guy routine. Just be a little less hypocritical about it.

Guy101
09-11-2011, 08:06 PM
//stand Up

nashawa
09-11-2011, 08:29 PM
So, you're arguing that even though you made fun of an opinion I have of letlive.(and others, as documented by the thread), it was unthinkable to make a satirized response to his opinion of letlive. because "nobody's gonna make fun" of his opinion, even though you've admitted to making fun of my opinion?


About as often as you wake up with that inferiority complex and decide attempting to be an internet bully is the best way to countermeasure it. But by all means, if the anonymity is an outlet for your anger, continue the tough guy routine. Just be a little less hypocritical about it.
Haha, yer cute.

Maybe I just find him a lot less insufferable than you?


Here's another fun fact:
I'm not being a hypocrite about anything in this thread, but you using insults and then telling me that "internet bullying is wrong, m'kay" is pretty hypocritical. Like, hypocritical enough that I could cite your post as an example of hypocrisy if I needed to explain what it meant to someone.

Honestly, is this still 1996? Do people not realize every insult spewed on the internet is not necessarily coming from a place of anger or unhappiness? Do you not know how the paradigm works? Not everyone is angry. In fact, I'd say most of the people who flame you on the internet (because honestly, lol, I doubt I'm the only one) are not actually angry about anything, but just find your reactions comical. Clearly I've gotten to you if you have the audacity to use the "inferiority complex" defense.

It's just so easy to get a rise out of you. That and you don't form coherent arguments in 99% (just so we're clear, this number is an exaggeration and not an accurate statistic; I don't want to create any confusion) of your posts and/or miss the point most of the time (again, not necessarily accurate; I'd probably go insane if I had to read every post you've ever made; and again, pointing it out to avoid confusion).

Me on the other hand, I'm a dick. And I'm good at it.

What are you good at? Maybe you should figure that out and stop writing inane forum posts.

Kyle<3
09-12-2011, 12:48 AM
Hey, Nash, shut up. I like the non-dick you better.

Guy101
09-12-2011, 05:13 AM
There are no martyrs in resolution