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jono034
10-11-2004, 03:54 AM
You ask and you shall recieve!!! :D

Pink Floyd has won the honor of having their very own dedicated thread. I think all will turn out well considering the amount of threads I have seen about Pink Floyd in the last month or so.

READ BELOW!!
(the pink font fits in this case :p: )

Do not spam. If you spam, warnings and bans will ensue.

Please stay on task. Topics must be relevant to the general idea of the thread, PINK FLOYD!!

Keep ALL Pink Floyd threads out of the forum and keep them in here. Any Floyd threads outside the "ONLY" thread will be deleted or closed.

There is no real need for polls so please do not PM Bill or I asking to start a new thread because you want to include a poll. The answer will be NO!!

If you have any questions or complaints regarding this thread, PM either Bill or I and we will help you.


That is about it. Let the topics begin :D

-jono-

nacho420
10-11-2004, 04:04 AM
cool, Pink Floyd rocks, and they definatly DO deserve this.

masterbasser89
10-11-2004, 07:52 AM
i love waters bass lines, what do you all think of this possible reunion?

bwp
10-11-2004, 08:29 AM
I think a reunion would be the best thing that ever happened in my lifetime, but people talk. Every so often a Floyd reunion rumor gets started. I don't know though. I know they keep in touch to a certain extent. Ever since Wish You Were Here, the band has been devided between the "musicians" and the "architects". Gilmour and Wright and Waters and Mason. So Wright still plays with Gilmour (Meltdown Festival) and Mason plays with Waters (In the Flesh Tour).

I don't know, but I'm hoping with everything I got, man.

koreazz7
10-11-2004, 10:11 AM
If Pink Floyd do have a reunion, I wouldn't mind trading my life to see them live.

Chances are, the rumor is not true, but I'm still gonna keep my fingers crossed ;)

Cirrus Minor
10-11-2004, 11:16 AM
Well Pink Floyd is my favorite band (along with the SP, and Beatles), my friend was really into them when we were in 8th grade but I found their music pretty bland, 3 years and 10 albums later my views have more than changed. I still dont have a few, but there always seem to be something else to buy at the time.

wilty00
10-11-2004, 12:22 PM
Awesome... 6th post of the big thread.... anyway,

the wall is probably my fav album, and money my fav song

SoulStripper7
10-11-2004, 12:39 PM
I doubt they will ever have a ful reunion, just cuz david and richard want to kill roger, and that makes me sad cuz they used to be good friends, but its good that at least some of them are talking to each other. BTW Pink Floyd is my favourite band besides AC/DC.

lukef
10-11-2004, 01:59 PM
God i hope they do reunite, i would fly to england just to see them cos where i live we've had one concert ever. and it was by SHAGGY.

Dark side of the moon and the wall are to of the best albulms ever.

Doctor Robert
10-11-2004, 02:23 PM
One word: Echoes

matt666
10-11-2004, 02:54 PM
It would be great if they reunite

My favourite song is Another brick In The Wall pt 2

Cirrus Minor
10-11-2004, 03:06 PM
My favorite song by them fluctuates all the time but if I had to choose two it would be "Hey You" and "Time"
What does everyone think of Atom Heart Mother?
I dont know what to think

Jimi444
10-11-2004, 03:42 PM
my favorite songs are comfortably numb and another brick in the wall part 2.

and also me and my friend got in a argument on which of these songs are better. Money or another brick in the wall part 2 which one do you all think is better.

SoulStripper7
10-11-2004, 04:07 PM
^^Money, by far.

Antonio Ulfers
10-11-2004, 05:56 PM
There are too many great ones for me to have a favorite song or album.

I've seen Roger waters when I was in 6th grade, and he did a lot of Floyd stuff. It's actually the best concert I've ever been to. I would love to see a reunion tour.

Y2A 66
10-11-2004, 05:59 PM
I'd say money as well.
Glad to see Floyd get this thread. There's been plenty of Floyd topics floating around recently

Jimi444
10-11-2004, 06:02 PM
^^you went to a concert when you were in 6th grade, i idolize you. I'm in 9th grade and haven't gone to a concert yet. and for the sake of the thread i think the reunion will be cool and for my question i was never really a huge money fan i like another brick in the wall part 2 more.

bwp
10-11-2004, 06:18 PM
I got to see Waters on his In The Flesh Tour when he came to Portland OR. Lucky for me its the show they recorded for the DVD. So if any of you have it, I'm on the floor level. Haha.

Oh, and Cirrus Minor, I actually love the album Atom Heart Mother, for the three songs in the middle. One of my favorite songs of all time is Fat Old Sun. I think The Atom Heart Mother suite was important for them for experimental purposes because it was a precurser to what they did with Meddle. Namely Echoes.

Cirrus Minor
10-11-2004, 06:54 PM
Yeah, Fat Old Sun is a beautiful song and the only one I really got into while listening to it, it sounds like maybe something off the White Album or Abbey Road--I should give it another listen, man Gilmour's guitar is really something else, it just sings....

bwp
10-11-2004, 06:58 PM
There's a live version of that song floating around somewhere from a BBC show. It's like twelve min. long and its really cool to listen to. It was right after Meddle, so it has an echoes feel to it.

Oh and if you listen to the bells at the beginning you'll find they're the same bells at the beginning of High Hopes. A little useless trivia for you.

:cheers:

LeddyZeppelen
10-11-2004, 08:48 PM
Has anyone seen The Wall live at Berlin? That show is amazing! I would feel so accomplished if my ideas were being performed infront a million people! Great great show.

mntlhelpneded
10-11-2004, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Jimi444
my favorite songs are comfortably numb and another brick in the wall part 2.

and also me and my friend got in a argument on which of these songs are better. Money or another brick in the wall part 2 which one do you all think is better.

^money, i like both songs, but money was the first of their songs that i had ever heard, i was like 5 how i remember that, i dont know. i didnt know what it was but i do remember listening to it. anyway, real glad Pink Floyd go the "honors" of having this thread, they really deserve, imo at least.

mntlhelpneded
10-11-2004, 10:01 PM
leddy zeppelen, jsut how amazing is it? if you don't mind, a few details perhaps? i'd like to hear cause i just started to really get into Pink Floyd and would like to hear some concert things... if you don't mind

bwp
10-11-2004, 10:10 PM
Wierdly enough, I just watched it last night. It was actually an estimated 300 thousand. They sold tickets for 200 thousand, but they opened the gates because they were afraid people would get trampled. Its really a good show. Roger is a born entertainer. He plays the whole show and a song from Radio Kaos at the end. Since its for charity, there are numerous guest stars such as Sinead O'Conner, Cindy Lauper, The Band, Van Morrison, Bryan Adams, Joni Mitchell, and lots of others. Look into it. It's worth seeing.

mntlhelpneded
10-11-2004, 10:21 PM
hmmm, i can only imagine, i think i will look into that, sounds intresting.

pepajaktbs2
10-12-2004, 12:42 AM
DAMMIT!!! NO MORE LED ZEP THREAD!!! Maybe this is a good thing... I can get more in Pink Floyd now. Any good starter songs besides Wish You Were Here which I already love?

csaintg
10-12-2004, 03:15 AM
I never thought Cindi Lauper was hot til I saw that video.

A good Floyd starter song is If. Nice little finger picking piece, easy to play. I also enjoy playing the intro to Is there Anybody Out There. You know the acoustic bit in A minor? And Fearless has always been one of my fav's. Maybe because it is one of the first songs I ever figured out by ear.

Chris.

bwp
10-12-2004, 08:19 AM
Breathe is an awesome song to play, Mother, Goodbye Blue Sky, Pigs on the Wing, and Us and Them are a few of my faves. I'm with you csaintg, Is There Anybody Out There is my absolute favorite. It relaxes me. I just sit and play it while I watch tv.

dionysus85
10-12-2004, 10:01 AM
HORRAY
pink floyd won the poll race
bloody ripper
one of my fav floyd songs to play is those opening notes to in the flesh
the E F# G A B C part and so on
also ive just learned san tropez on piano so ive been boppin away to that recently :)
is it just me or is that a really wierd and really diffrent, yet very similiar template for great gig in the sky... errr i dunno

Doctor Robert
10-12-2004, 10:29 AM
The Have a Cigar solo is ****ing awesome.

Jimi444
10-12-2004, 04:03 PM
does anyone know how much the tickets will cost for the pink floyd reunion if they have it. ;) or a ballpark

PinkFloydJunkie
10-12-2004, 05:01 PM
I am absolutely in love with Pink Floyd. I can never get enough of them. I'm suprised more people didn't mention Wish You Were Here, not the song (which is freaking awsome!) but the album, have a cigar, shine on you crazy diamond parts 1 and 2, welcome to the machine, every song on it is classic. Animals is also very overlooked, eerie yet powerful. You havn't expirienced Dark Side of The Moon untill you listen to the whole cd all the way through, from begining to end. I don't even break apart the songs, it just blends together so beautifully, it sounds like one big masterpiece, a single song. It flows that good. Anyways, that's my humble opinion, and I hope you all have a good time jamming to the fruits of Floyd :cheers:

SoulStripper7
10-12-2004, 05:02 PM
^^Like $60 bucks for nosebleed section. I don't know how much you would have to pay for good seats.

Doctor Robert
10-12-2004, 05:10 PM
Is their rumours about a Floyd reunion?

I would pay $ 300 for a seat.

Michael_Frazier
10-12-2004, 05:13 PM
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ZEPPELIN THREAD? WHY.....*sob*........I'm gonna go take a shower because I feel really dirty right now..........

SoulStripper7
10-12-2004, 05:18 PM
^^Get with the program, dumbass. There was a poll and people voted for a Pink floyd thread instead of keeping the Led Zep one.

bwp
10-12-2004, 06:20 PM
Even if Floyd had a reunion, which I'm skeptical on, They'd only do show or two. So tickets would be very pricey and very limited. If were lucky, they'd record it. But thats most likely not happening. I seriously hope I'm wrong.

Mr. Safety
10-12-2004, 06:28 PM
I dont see any problem with having both.. but thats the way the cookie crumbles.. they are my 2 favorite bands after all.

So far as the Atom heart Mother album goes, the album rocked! My favorite song off it was If, just because its simple, the lyrics are good (though what floyd lyrics aren't?), and its very nice and melodic.
Other than that my fave is Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast though. That song has so much going on in it. it has all sorts of different little solos in it, each one is absolutely amazing. I like how during the last "movement" I'll call it, the mumblings of allan just blend in so perfectly with the song to create sort of a bass line, and in some ways lyrics. What a great song.
Atom Heart Mother is a masterpiece as well. It sounds like a classical work of art that easily challenges some of Beethoven's and Mozart's finest works. If you listen to it, it actually expresses certain ups and downs in emotion, and tells a story, which each time you listen to it is different. its a wonderful song as well.
In summer of 68 I have to point out how well they did harmonizing their voices. Its like an acapella, except with accompaniment. Thats also a great piece of music.

Danfan3
10-12-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Cirrus Minor
My favorite song by them fluctuates all the time but if I had to choose two it would be "Hey You" and "Time"
What does everyone think of Atom Heart Mother?
I dont know what to think

Atom Heart Mother is an album I recently bought and I think it has some of their best music on it.

Mildly_Retarded
10-12-2004, 08:42 PM
Could someone please explain to me why they disbanded? I feel I should know this.

Cirrus Minor
10-12-2004, 09:00 PM
Im sure bwp or someone could explain it better but by the time the Wall came out (1979), Roger was steering the band because it was the first time he had written all the music. The next album to come out was the Final Cut which was basically Roger's CD that was comprised of old demos off the Wall. By this time, Rick Wright and Mason had left most of the music to Waters and Gilmour, but David felt frusterated that he was told to contribute, but none of his ideas were getting through. By I think 1985 Roger departed, and Gilmour and Mason carried on with the name and A Momentary Lapse of Reason in which Gilmour wrote all the music.

SoulStripper7
10-12-2004, 09:06 PM
Roger had ego problems, he begun to hate richard wright, and david and him were arguing alot over the productions credits and stuff like that.

burnout06
10-12-2004, 10:44 PM
I'm a big fan of DSOTM, been meaning to get another album sometime soon. But is Pink Floyd a big drug band? I've heard the stories of Syd but nothing about the rest. Except, some kid told me the David Gilmour quit smoking (dont know what) because he heard the cough on wish you were here and hated the the sound so much he forced himself to quit. Either way they're amazing musicians.

Matty Ramone
10-13-2004, 12:26 AM
My Favorite pink floyd songs are

Fearless
Mother
On the turning away
Another Brick in the wall ptII
Run Like Hell
Brian Damge/Eclipse
Us and them
Money
Goodbye blue sky
In the Flesh
Wish you were here
Echoe's

not a big fan of comfortably numb

bwp
10-13-2004, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Mildly_Retarded
Could someone please explain to me why they disbanded? I feel I should know this.

After the sucess of DSOTM things went downhill. While working on WYWH, they all had wives they rarely saw, and tension to make another hit was there. This is where they stopped being buddies and it became just business.
After Animals, Roger laid out two possible album themes. One was the next Floyd album, and the other Waters next solo album. These where the Wall and Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking. The other guys chose the Wall theme, so thats what they did.
Not one person hated Rick, they all agreed that his personal life was effecting his playing and they asked him to leave. (This was after the Wall and before the tour) He said he would but he wanted to get paid for the tour, so he went on the road. This is where I feel Pink Floyd ended. The other three recorded The Final Cut, but all said it was just Waters' first solo album.
Waters, thinking they had all mutually split and Floyd was no more, heard Gilmour and Mason where going to tour under the Floyd name. They went to court and Waters lost. So Gilmour's Floyd toured 80,000 plus stadiums playing Rogers songs that are clearly against it (animals tour). They had an album in 86 MLOR and in 94 Division Bell. Thats where they stopped.

bwp
10-13-2004, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by burnout06
I'm a big fan of DSOTM, been meaning to get another album sometime soon. But is Pink Floyd a big drug band? I've heard the stories of Syd but nothing about the rest. Except, some kid told me the David Gilmour quit smoking (dont know what) because he heard the cough on wish you were here and hated the the sound so much he forced himself to quit. Either way they're amazing musicians.

Back in the late 60's everyone did drugs. A lot of them weren't illegal. (LSD) They all did it, but Syd overindulged. After what happened to Syd they really weren't a in to that. I feel since they saw first-hand what could happen, they were a very anti-drug band. The only drug reference I can think of off hand is in Nobody Home where he talks about Syd having a "silver spoon on a chain. This, I believe, speaks out against it.

Matty Ramone
10-13-2004, 01:24 AM
roger had alot of issues like the whole spitting on on a fan issue in the montreal show but roger just quit pinkfloyd and well I have no idea why sid just quit everything alltogether

TGM
10-13-2004, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by bwp
A little useless trivia for you.

Useless trivia ey?

Australians voted Great Gig in the Sky the best song to have sex to.

The band was named after 2 American Blues musicians, Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. Other names they used included The Megadeaths and The Abdabs.

Waters, Wright and Mason formed the band when they met at a London architectural school. Syd Barrett joined them shortly after.

Syd Barrett was the first high-profile acid casualty. He was the group leader until he gradually went crazy and had to be kicked out of the band. It got to the point where he would stand on stage and refuse to play his guitar.

Gilmour has an extensive collection of classic guitars, including the Fender Stratocaster with the first serial number. (This guitar was not the first strat ever made, he also owns a broadcaster. - TGM edit)

Waters loves golf. On their later tours, he would make an effort to book hotels near golf courses.

Because they were rarely pictured on album covers (they appear on the cover of their 1969 album Ummagumma) and the light show was the focus of attention at concerts, many people have no idea what the band members look like. This has helped them remain anonymous and live more normal lives.

In the '60s, they gave fans a completely different concert experience. Audiences came to their shows to listen to the music and enjoy the visual effects. There was no dancing.

They were the first band to use a quadraphonic sound system at their concerts. Using 4 different channels of audio, it was an early version of surround sound.

Their famous light shows started off very low-tech. In the early days, they used slide projectors and colored condoms stretched over lights.

In 2002, Gilmour sold his London house for $6.48 million, and gave all the money to charity. He claimed he had grown tired of having too many expensive possessions. They were the first British rock group to use a liquid light show and the first act to use Gold colored lasers in their shows.

They put a big emphasis on the artwork for their albums. Their art director, Storm Thorgeson, would listen to the albums, then bring ideas to the band, which they usually loved. In an attempt to keep ticket prices low, they once appeared in a French soft-drink commercial. This went against their anti-commercialism philosophy and was a horrible experience. They haven't done anything like that since.

They have worked on the soundtracks to the movies Zabriske Point, The Valley, and Tonight Let's All Make Love In London. Apparently, Pink Floyd shows up in The Muppet Show. A member of the band is mostly colored pink. His name is Floyd

Dark Side of The Moon still sells around 8,000 copies a week in the US.

Syd Barrett had a great influence on the other band members even after he left. "Shine On you Crazy Diamond" is dedicated to him, since it reads S-hine on Y-ou crazy D-iamond. "Wish You Were Here" is also in his memory.

In the movie The Wall, several scenes are inspired from actual events involving Syd. In the movie, the character Pink shaves off all his facial hair, including his eyebrows - something Syd once arrived to the studio having done himself.

Their 1979 album The Wall has sold at least 23,000,000 copies in United States alone, making it the third-highest-selling album of all time, and the highest-selling Hard Rock album of all time.

Dark Side of the Moon?s original title was Eclipse.

Medicine Head recorded an album titled Dark Side of the Moon before Pink Floyd, but it was never a success.

The music stops only once between Dark Side of the Moons eight tracks.

Dark Side of the Moon never topped the U.K. charts.

TGM
10-13-2004, 03:43 AM
About dark side of the moon:

1. Dark Side has sold approximately 34 million copies worldwide.

2. The album hit number one on the US charts for one week in 1973. David Gilmour had had a bet with manager Steve O'Rourke that the album wouldn't crack the US top 10.

3. In the UK the album made it to the number two spot. When it was re-mastered and re-released for the 20th anniversary in 1993 with special packaging it made it to number 4.

4. In Belgium and France it was No. 1, No. 2 in Austria, No. 3 in Australia, and No. 4 in Holland; it was No. 5 in Spain, Finland and Germany but not at the same time, and made it to No. 8 in Brazil in August 1973.

5. The album is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records for being on the charts longer than any other album in history, namely 591 consecutive weeks or 11.4 years in Billboard top 200! A total of approx 14 whole years (741 weeks) in and back in top 200, and a staggering 26 years in some Billboard chart or rather.

6. SoundScan, the chart tabulators in the US, recently listed the top 200 selling albums of the year 2002. Dark Side was again on that list. It sold roughly 417,000 copies in the US last year, making it the 200th top selling album. It is by far the oldest album on the list.

7. The original title for the album was Eclipse (A Piece for Assorted Lunatics). The band were upset to find out that the progressive folk rock act Medicine Head had released an album with the title of "Dark Side of the Moon" as recently as 1972 on John Peel's Dandelion label. Since the release was less than successful sales-wise, the band decided go ahead with their plans.

8. The music and lyrics for the entire album were written during a seven week period in which the band were preparing for a tour in which they desperately wanted to premier new material.

9. Cue Cards with generic questions were written up by Roger and given to roadies, anyone at Abbey Road, doormen, and members of Wings including Paul and Linda McCartney. Approximately 20 questions were asked along the lines of, "Are you afraid of dying?". "When was the last time you were violent and were you in the right?", and "What does the phrase 'The Dark Side of the Moon' mean to you?". The most spontaneous answers to these questions appeared on the album. Paul and Linda didn't make the cut but Wings' guitarist Henry McColluch did providing the "I don't know I was really drunk at the time" response to the question regarding violent behaviour used at the fade out of Money.

10. The "stoned" laughter used in the background of Speak to Me and Brain Damage is from Peter Watts, a road manager for the Floyd pictured on the back of the Ummagumma sleeve.

11. Studio time would be typically interrupted for one of two reasons, either soccer or Monty Python television broadcasts. In fact, Pink Floyd were such Python fans that they used some of the money they made from the initial success of the album to help fund Monty Python's The Holy Grail film.

12. The album was recorded at Abbey Road on then state of the art 16-track equipment. Roger created the tape loops necessary to achieve the rhythmic chiming of the sound effects for Money. Due to the technology of the time, this meant physically cutting and mending bits of tape together in precise measurements using a ruler and feeding these manually into a tape machine for duplication.

13. The slide guitar heard on Breathe was a pedal steel that David Gilmour purchased in a pawnshop in Seattle back in 1968.

14. Alan Parsons recommended Claire Torry for vocal duties on The Great Gig in the Sky. At the time Torry was an EMI staff songwriter who wanted to branch into vocals. Torry was paid double the standard session wage at the time for this particular session since it was on a Sunday. At the time, she was very happy with what she received. No one could foresee the impact and longevity the resulting album would have.

15. Australian radio listeners voted the album the best album to have sex to in 1990.

16. The album marked the first time that Roger Waters wrote all of the lyrics. He has stated that he made a conscious effort to employ words that were very straightforward and easy to understand.

17. The album was first performed live at the Dome in Brighton, England on the 20th of January 1972. Due to a tape malfunction, the concert only made it as far as 'Money' that evening, but the band continued to perform the suite at almost every show after that date right up until a performance at Knebworth on the 5th of July 1975.

18. Hipgnosis studio suggested the album be issued as a gatefold with inserts of two posters, one for fans (photos of the band) and one for art (photo of pyramids), and two stickers, day and night, which refer to the touring aspect in the lyrics . All this was to be housed in a card box. EMI agreed to everything except the box. Hipgnosis provided the outer cover design, the prism against black, which referred to the band's inventive use of lights on stage, the triangularity symbolising mad ambition, and the cool graphic in answer to a request from Richard Wright for something less pictorial and more iconic.

19. The design of the inner spread of the gatefold, featuring the spectrum heartbeat, echoing the audio heartbeat at the beginning of the album, was an idea from Roger Waters.

20. Us and Them was originally written by Richard Wright in 1969 as an instrumental piano solo intended for use in Michelangelo Antonioni's Zabriskie Point film which the band had been commissioned to score. The piece, then known as The Violent Sequence, was to be used over slow-motion scenes of student / police riots at UCLA. It was rejected for the film and resurrected for Dark Side after Waters penned the lyrics. Tapes exist of the band performing it as The Violent Sequence early in 1970.

21. The Great Gig in The Sky was originally known as The Mortality Sequence. It featured a similar piano introduction but no female vocals. Instead, taped readings from the Book of Ephesians, a recital of The Lord's Prayer, and a narrative from Malcolm Muggeridge, a controversial host of a religious program on the BBC, were used.

22. A rough version of Brain Damage was written around the time of Meddle and was actually known as "The Dark Side of the Moon".

23. The inspiration for Breathe was from a song Roger Waters had written and recorded in 1970 as part of the soundtrack for a film about human biology called "The Body". The opening lyric is the same in both songs. The original song was a protest of man's destruction of nature for profit, a theme that has appeared on more than a few Waters' compositions.

24. Although the band made a point of not releasing any singles in Great Britain for ten years after 1969's Point Me at The Sky failed to make an impression, two singles from the album were issued in the States. An edited version of Money was issued in May of '73 backed with Any Colour You Like. This peaked at number 13 on the Billboard Top 40. An edited Us and Them backed with Time ("severely" edited with the rotatoms spliced unnaturally onto the end of the song in place of the Breathe reprise) was also issued in February of '74. Despite heavy FM airplay, the track wasn't AM radio friendly enough and the record only made it to 101 on the chart.

25. The album has been released in various audiophile pressings and limited collector's editions including coloured vinyl editions. Colour completists would need to find a German pressing on white vinyl from 1977, both blue and clear vinyl versions from France also pressed in the late 70's, an Australian pink vinyl version (of the quad mix!) from 1988, and another white one from Holland also from 1977. In addition, there are two official picture discs of the vinyl version still circulating the collector's markets, one from the US on Capitol, and one from the UK only briefly available as part of a box set "The First XI" that was released in 1979 (only 1000 were made available to the public).

26. EMI organized a launch of the album for the press at the London Planetarium. An interesting choice since at this time the band was trying hard to shed their image as a space-rock band. The quadraphonic mix, supervised by Alan Parsons, was to be used for this reception but instead the band learned that the record would be played back in stereo and through an inferior sound system. Only Richard Wright showed up. Life size cardboard cut-outs of the other band members were used in their absence.

27. Pink Floyd were excited to be able to develop new material on the road but were horrified to learn of a bootleg album that was released of a complete performance of the piece recorded in February of 1972 at the Rainbow Theatre. The bootleg was issued a mere six weeks after the concert, about a full year prior to an official release. Professionally packaged, the unit reportedly sold in excess of 100,000 copies, many thinking it was the real thing.

28. Throughout the 1990's rumours persisted that the album was intended to be played back while watching The Wizard of Oz. Many similarities were depicted between the music, lyrics, and the film. The band have denied that the classic film made an impression on them while recording the album, but if you want to judge for yourself be sure to start the CD at the third roar of the MGM lion at the start of the film!

29. The album was initially released on EMI's Harvest label, an operation set up in 1969 as an outlet for more progressive bands. The label forged on through the mid 1980's before it was abandoned leaving the Floyd on EMI Records in the UK and Capitol in the US.

30. The supporting tour featured an almost life size model spitfire airplane which "flew" across the top of the arena and crashed into flames on the stage during the climax of On the Run.

TGM
10-13-2004, 03:45 AM
I honestly don't know where I got all this trivia from, and I would give credit if I could. I have a feeling that I typed in Pink FLoyd on google. I saved this all when I wrote an article on Pink FLoyd a while back.

BTW, the article is here. (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/the_history_of/the_history_of_pink_floyd.html) I wrote it a while ago, and this is the first draft, not the final. I wish I had posted the final, it was much better. I didn't realise that I hadn't saved the changes until after I had posted it. :(

EDIT: The comments of that article have a nice discussion on Animal Farm.

TGM
10-13-2004, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by Matty Ramone
roger had alot of issues like the whole spitting on on a fan issue in the montreal show but roger just quit pinkfloyd and well I have no idea why sid just quit everything alltogether

Roger was inspired (at least partly so) to write The Wall from the spitting incident.

Syd quit because he went crazy. David said that he would have even without LSD, but LSD was the main trigger.

BTW, what do you guys think about the Wall DVD? I got it for AUD$14. (approx USD$9)

Sorry about the quadruple post.

bwp
10-13-2004, 08:22 AM
Wow, I'm impressed. I'm glad I'm not the only one with a freaky obsession. Hehe

Originally posted by TGM
Roger was inspired (at least partly so) to write The Wall from the spitting incident.



It wasn't just that incident. It was the whole Animals tour. It was that show in Montreal Quibec that topped it off though. Not just because of the spitting. There were fireworks, fistfights, and people throwing bottles on stage. Roger looked at every show like the audience was something that needed conquering. So he said he'd build a wall in between them.

And don't worry about the quad. post. Its the damn finest I've ever seen.:cheers:

SoulStripper7
10-13-2004, 08:42 AM
It's odd with WYWH because as bwp said it just became business with that album, there is in fact a picture in that album where Roger is hugging Dave. Although Roger has ego problems, I don't think that David should have taken PF on, or taken Roger's songs. I think the only good song they wrote after Roger quit was High Hopes.

bwp
10-13-2004, 01:00 PM
Thats where it started. I didnt say it was ALL business. Just because the tension was mounting, didn't mean there wasn't some good times. I have a picture of them all laughing around during a Wall show. Does that mean things were hunky dory? nope. especially not then.

Jimi444
10-13-2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by SoulStripper7
^^Like $60 bucks for nosebleed section. I don't know how much you would have to pay for good seats.

that would be worth it to go see pink floyd in concert, now all i need to do is find a friend to go with. :sad:

Joey .G
10-13-2004, 03:43 PM
^^ 60 $ would be a deal cause it costs 50 bucks Canadian to dee Australian Pink Floyd. Alice Cooper tickets were 70 $ canadian when he came 2 weeks ago but he isnt woth it.

Would anybody here agree with me that Roger Waters is the best songwriter (lyrics) of all time?

slapshot2205
10-13-2004, 03:59 PM
I luv The Floyd. I havent read all of this this thread but from what I have seen no one really has mentioned Animals. This is by far the second best album behind DSOTM. The songs are so powerful and so are the lyrics. One of the things I like most about the Floyd their concept albums. I highly recommend a book, Who's Pink (authors name doesnt come to mind) that explians in deep detail The Floyds concept albums.

Danfan3
10-13-2004, 04:04 PM
Yeah Animals is very underrated and I hadn't heard of it until about a year ago when my friend played it for me along with the album Meddle. I think DSOTM will always be their best but second place is probably Animals or The Wall but I get tired of The Wall sometimes.

Joey .G
10-13-2004, 04:07 PM
This is mostly for BWP I guess but what the hell is SSOSFAGTIACAGWAP about from Ummagumma. I have the album and I've listened to it a bunchm, but is it just for fun or does it mean something?

Danfan3
10-13-2004, 04:09 PM
I think he means the song "Several Small Species of Furry Animals Gathered Into a Cave and Grooving" and as much as I like Pink Floyd I could never get into that song.

slapshot2205
10-13-2004, 04:11 PM
I dont think it does but I could be wrong i think it was just another one of their experimental albums

Danfan3
10-13-2004, 04:14 PM
Yeah Ummagumma was really weird but the album after that "Atom Heart Mother" is really good and so is "Meddle." Did you guys know that Pink Floyd was going to make an album after DSOTM that was going to be played entirely on household objects but I guess that didn't work so they wrote Wish You Were Here instead.

LeddyZeppelen
10-13-2004, 04:32 PM
Im not a big fan of Momentary Lapse of Reason. I think that Pink Floyd sort of got suckered into the whole 80s era and the music came with them. Of course Momentary has classics such as Sorrow and Learning to Fly, but i think the electric percussion and drums and synthesizers is just way to much. The band always used synthesizers but I think that they might have pushed the use of them on this album. Not one of my favorites.:(

Matty Ramone
10-13-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by TGM
Roger was inspired (at least partly so) to write The Wall from the spitting incident.

Syd quit because he went crazy. David said that he would have even without LSD, but LSD was the main trigger.

BTW, what do you guys think about the Wall DVD? I got it for AUD$14. (approx USD$9)

Sorry about the quadruple post.


I have the roger waters live in berlin

its freaking amazing

Cirrus Minor
10-13-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by LeddyZeppelen
Im not a big fan of Momentary Lapse of Reason. I think that Pink Floyd sort of got suckered into the whole 80s era and the music came with them. Of course Momentary has classics such as Sorrow and Learning to Fly, but i think the electric percussion and drums and synthesizers is just way to much. The band always used synthesizers but I think that they might have pushed the use of them on this album. Not one of my favorites.:(

I agree, it seems that Gilmour needed Waters to have build an album, but it shows that he could also write brilliant songs. I got this about a year ago and was dissapointed but still was very enjoyable. The absence of Waters would be obvious to anyone, it seems the band is an afterthought at this point and their place in history has already been etched.

TaterSalad101
10-13-2004, 05:34 PM
Wish you were here - good stuff. :cheers:

bwp
10-13-2004, 06:21 PM
Momentary Lapse is a good album, but very 80's. It wasn't for Waters though. Listen to Radio Kaos which he released that same year. If you think about it, that would have been Floyds next album. On a side note, Waters claimed MLOR is a pretty fair forgery of his stuff. hehe.
You have to remember that Pink Floyd was always into using brand new equipent. (hense the new drums and weird 80s sound effects. I guess that answers Joey.G's question also. SSOSFAGTGWAP was probably just to see what they could do. The whole Ummagumma album is very experimental. They each had their shot at composing (which I thought was pretty cool), but is a little less organized then most. The Narrow Way and Granchester Meadows are EXCELLENT songs though.

bwp
10-13-2004, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Cirrus Minor
I agree, it seems that Gilmour needed Waters to have build an album, but it shows that he could also write brilliant songs. I got this about a year ago and was dissapointed but still was very enjoyable. The absence of Waters would be obvious to anyone, it seems the band is an afterthought at this point and their place in history has already been etched.

I agree to a certain extent. I think Waters needs Gimour as much as Gilmour needs Waters. Waters has a very cynical feel about the way he writes, and Dave is very light and airy. Think of Comfortably Numb. The Chorus written by Waters is very deep and dark, while Gilmour's chorus (written by Gilmour) comes in like a light beaming through a dark cloud. Its a beatiful chemistry they had, and if you listen to their post Wall stuff you feel like they miss something. Waters too dark, Gilmour too light. IMO

To emphisize my point, think about all the songs Gilmour starts singing and Waters finishes. Dogs, Not Now John, Hey You, Thin Ice, etc etc etc...

mntlhelpneded
10-13-2004, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by PinkFloydJunkie
I am absolutely in love with Pink Floyd. I can never get enough of them. I'm suprised more people didn't mention Wish You Were Here, not the song (which is freaking awsome!) but the album, have a cigar, shine on you crazy diamond parts 1 and 2, welcome to the machine, every song on it is classic. Animals is also very overlooked, eerie yet powerful. You havn't expirienced Dark Side of The Moon untill you listen to the whole cd all the way through, from begining to end. I don't even break apart the songs, it just blends together so beautifully, it sounds like one big masterpiece, a single song. It flows that good. Anyways, that's my humble opinion, and I hope you all have a good time jamming to the fruits of Floyd :cheers:

well said :D and all of ya'll that are upset over the zeppelin discontinuation, sorry, get over it.

D-Fens
10-13-2004, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by SoulStripper7
I doubt they will ever have a ful reunion, just cuz david and richard want to kill roger, and that makes me sad cuz they used to be good friends, but its good that at least some of them are talking to each other. BTW Pink Floyd is my favourite band besides AC/DC.

Actually the member get along very well apparently. It ties as best band to AC/DC imo too:cheers:

LPStudio
10-13-2004, 06:56 PM
I absolutely love The Pink Floyd's music. The first solo I ever played on a guitar was "Mother". Very easy, yet very tasty. The structuring and phrasing of Gilmours solo's is just outrageous!

slapshot2205
10-13-2004, 07:03 PM
Yeah I agree.
Best David Gilmour Solos(in My opinion):
1.Time
2.Money
3.Comfortably Numb

burnout06
10-13-2004, 07:31 PM
i though wywh was an anit-vietnam song?

Cirrus Minor
10-13-2004, 07:36 PM
My friend brought the lyrics from WYWH and I did Time for an English project, and he concluded that it did have anti-war references, but is a tribute to their friend and ex-band member Syd Barrett. It was sure fun to disect the beautiful lyrics of that song though.

Danfan3
10-13-2004, 08:22 PM
I hope that Pink Floyd does a reunion tour.

slapshot2205
10-13-2004, 08:47 PM
That would be so awesome

ź├Fire¤nside╗
10-13-2004, 09:44 PM
pink floyd is pretty damn good, i have the dark side of the moon and also wish you were here, the latter of which i like better....the guitaring is just amazing. i hope they do have a reunion tour, it would be amazing to see if they still got it after all these years

slapshot2205
10-13-2004, 10:05 PM
If you only have DSOTM and WYWH, which BTW are awesome albums, you should buy Animals and Meddle for even more excellent "guitaring"

bwp
10-13-2004, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Danfan3
I think he means the song "Several Small Species of Furry Animals Gathered Into a Cave and Grooving" and as much as I like Pink Floyd I could never get into that song.

Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave and Groving WITH A PICT.

A pict is some old celtic group of people, I think. (don't ask me...)

dionysus85
10-14-2004, 03:14 AM
can anyone help me
i downloaded a live version of comfortably numb about 5 years ago and it blows the studio version out of the water, the solo is amazing, and the whole general fell of it is really good
i was wonderin if anyone knows what gig/bootleg/live album it is from

the entire song goes for 9:28, the solo starts at roughly 4:41
sorry thats about all i can find thats defining

if anyone can help, thank you very very much :D

bwp
10-14-2004, 08:15 AM
I believe you are thinking of the PULSE version. The solo in that song is the best solo I've ever heard in my time here on earth. Its even better when you watch it. For those of you that haven't heard it, go and find it.

SoulStripper7
10-14-2004, 08:43 AM
I have a question: How come High Hopes has a slightly different solo on Echos than on the Division Bell?

dionysus85
10-14-2004, 09:30 AM
cheers a sh*tload BWP
your a legend
and whats BWP stand for???
i have a feeling its something floyd related

dionysus85
10-14-2004, 10:23 AM
a lil trivia for the floyd thread though im only 99% sure its true
i remember hearing a while ago that dave was a male model for a while before he joined the floyd

bwp
10-14-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by dionysus85
cheers a sh*tload BWP
your a legend
and whats BWP stand for???
i have a feeling its something floyd related


Thanks, man. BWP are just my initials.

:cheers:

The model thing with Dave is true.

bwp
10-14-2004, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by SoulStripper7
I have a question: How come High Hopes has a slightly different solo on Echos than on the Division Bell?

I believe the reason for that is they changed the songs so they flow together like most other albums by PF. I know for sure that Echoes and SOYCD were trimmed a couple minutes a piece due to length and DB High Hopes is somewhere around the 8:30 mark.
The end of Us and Them is different too. You dont have Any Colour You Like coming in. Its the echo of "the old man died died died." (and then Learning To Fly)

Doctor Robert
10-14-2004, 03:18 PM
Echoes is one of the most amazing songs ever written.

EDIT: Did I already say that? :D

LPStudio
10-14-2004, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by dionysus85
a lil trivia for the floyd thread though im only 99% sure its true
i remember hearing a while ago that dave was a male model for a while before he joined the floyd
You know what? I have heard that before too. Or read it somewhere. I have the Pink Floyd box set. Maybe thats where I read it. And yeah, it would be great to see the Floyd dod reunion tour, but I don't think that will ever happen. The anymosity(spelling) between Roger and Gilmour, I feel, would make it pretty much just a fantasy. You know how stubborn those Brits can be!:cheers:

LPStudio
10-14-2004, 03:35 PM
And check this out! Geldof and Gilmour doing "Comfortably Numb"! just hit the link and click on Gilmour and his guitar.
http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/main.php?flash=present&quicktime=present

mntlhelpneded
10-14-2004, 05:14 PM
i've hard a bit about Animals, i've been thinking about looking into it but what do you guys think about it?

SoulStripper7
10-14-2004, 06:23 PM
Where can I find something on David Gilmour being a model? I find that funny.

mntlhelpneded
10-14-2004, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Jimi444
that would be worth it to go see pink floyd in concert, now all i need to do is find a friend to go with. :sad:

i'll go with you! :) haha

ź├Fire¤nside╗
10-14-2004, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by slapshot2205
If you only have DSOTM and WYWH, which BTW are awesome albums, you should buy Animals and Meddle for even more excellent "guitaring"

thanks for the tip bud, ill check them out

TNfootballfan62
10-14-2004, 09:12 PM
hey guys, i think im done crying about the only led zeppelin thread long enough to come out of my room and reply with a post here:( ive always liked pink floyd but ive never been very into them, as in learning everything about them and buying all there cd's etc., can someone give some more basic information about them to help out the less knowledgeable floyd fans, such as, all the band members names/ instruments, records in order they were released, you know stuff like that, thanks:cheers:

Cirrus Minor
10-14-2004, 09:22 PM
Richard Wright- Keyboard
Nick Mason- Drums
Roger Waters- Bass
Syd Barrett (piper), then David Gilmour- guitar

Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Saucerful of Secrets
More
Ummagumma
Atom Herat Mother
Meddle
Obscured By Clouds
Dark Side of the Moon
Wish You Were Here
Animals
The Wall
Final Cut
A Momentary Lapse of Reason
Division Bell

I mightve missed a few like Relics and such, dont know when that fits in

TNfootballfan62
10-14-2004, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Cirrus Minor
Syd Barrett (piper), then David Gilmour- guitar


so, syd was on piper at the gates of dawn on guitar, then david gilmour was on the rest of them?

SoulStripper7
10-14-2004, 09:32 PM
^^Yes.

Cirrus Minor
10-14-2004, 09:43 PM
Basically yes, Syd brought the components of Pink Floyd together and wrote their debut, piper at the gates of dawn. But he went crazy from LSD and become a nuisance for the the band so they eased David Gilmour into his role and eventually replaced him all together. He kept writing songs for the band but soon was forced to leave, read a few pages back, someone else explained it a lot better and more in detail.

Im curious, what is everyones favorirte album cover? DSOTM is undoubtably the most famous yet the Wall, Animals, and Wish You Were Here are easily recognisable as well. I think they are all artistic and creative. My favorite is definetly Ummagumma, for those who havent seen it...

http://www.pinkfloydonline.com/pictures/gallery1/ummagumma.jpg

...sorry, I just think its so cool :D, I have a Pink Floyd calender hanging in my room right now and that was last month, October is Animals

TGM
10-15-2004, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by bwp
Wow, I'm impressed. I'm glad I'm not the only one with a freaky obsession. Hehe



It wasn't just that incident. It was the whole Animals tour. It was that show in Montreal Quibec that topped it off though. Not just because of the spitting. There were fireworks, fistfights, and people throwing bottles on stage. Roger looked at every show like the audience was something that needed conquering. So he said he'd build a wall in between them.

And don't worry about the quad. post. Its the damn finest I've ever seen.:cheers:

Thanks.

And yeah, he talks about feeling alienated, the spitting incident was kind of a turning piont where he stopped and took a good look at himself. It was not the most important moment though.

EDIT: BTW, according to David, Syd did not go crazy solely because of LSD. It was simply a catalsyt, and he would have gone crazy anyway.

dionysus85
10-15-2004, 06:12 AM
everyone says how syd went crazy, but what did he do exactly, we want details
crazy how????

bwp
10-15-2004, 08:19 AM
Dave said in an interview, he didn't take over Syd's place, the band asked him to. He said Syd would have quit pink floyd anyway, maybe I misread it or something. I know there is a history of madness in Syd's family though, but there's no way to tell if someone is going to go crazy.

Dionysus85, here's the whole story, in great detail. A lot of questions will be answered here. I found this a couple days ago and learned quite a bit myself. Its from MOJO mag in 96.

wish you were here (http://www.angelfire.com/wv/breastmilky/artmojo96.html)

SoulStripper7
10-15-2004, 08:43 AM
Wish you Were Here, Dark Side Of The Moon, and Animals are my favourite album covers.

csaintg
10-15-2004, 08:51 AM
What ever happened with Enigma?

Chris.

dionysus85
10-15-2004, 10:05 AM
cheers bwp
thats interesting stuff and clears up a lot :cheers:

TNfootballfan62
10-15-2004, 11:38 AM
wish you were here is my fav. album cover and song:D

bwp
10-15-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by csaintg
What ever happened with Enigma?

Chris.

The Publius Enigma has been going on for 10 years now. It revolves around The Division Bell and is yet to be solved. You are supposed to study the pictures and lyrics an uncover some secret riddle. There is a guy calling himself Publius posting riddles every now and again. At a show in New Jersey the stage lit up "Publius" to prove it. On a single of learning to fly at the bottom in the booklet it said something about Publius in the corner and Enigma on another page. At the end of Another Brick in the Wall pt 2, when the kids are screaming, the last kid you hear yells, "ENIGMA!" Thats really all I know about it. Not patient enough to deal with that sort of thing.

I think there's a website out there called publiusenigma.com and most likely many more.

SoulStripper7
10-15-2004, 07:08 PM
^^Not to mention every picture from the album makes the two faces that look at each other, like the ones on the cover.

Joey .G
10-15-2004, 08:12 PM
Did anybody notice that after DSOTM David Gilmour seem to age very quickly. I dont mean like he went from 20 to 50 but in the course of a few years he really seemed to change lookwise?

Jimmy_Page_Fan
10-15-2004, 09:52 PM
Have you seen recent photos or videos of him? I have. He looks REALLY old. Yet he sounds really good.
But yeah... he did age quite a bit in there.

SoulStripper7
10-15-2004, 09:53 PM
^^Yes I know. About the time of DSOTM came out he was really attractive, but it went downhill from there...he looked very different a few years later.

ry guy 48
10-15-2004, 10:32 PM
im gonna have to go ahead and say that even if they dont do this tour.. which they should becuase it would supposidly get them like upwards of 2.5 million dollars.. they are duing that broadway the wall in new york that i am sorta curios about.

SoulStripper7
10-15-2004, 10:38 PM
^^No, only Roger is doing that. No one else in the band will take part in it.

Homer Gibson
10-15-2004, 10:53 PM
pink floyd rocks. their bass player is awesome. my fav song is Hey You, and one of my fav solos is Comftorably Numb. they definately deserve their own thread

ź├Fire¤nside╗
10-15-2004, 11:33 PM
^ ya id have to agree, hey you is my favourite floyd song....good stuff

bwp
10-16-2004, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy_Page_Fan
Have you seen recent photos or videos of him? I have. He looks REALLY old. Yet he sounds really good.
But yeah... he did age quite a bit in there.

You have to remember, that what we see and hear of him was recorded decades ago. We are so used to him one way and it's like a time warp when we see him in present day. This goes for any of the classic rockers. You also must remember hes very nearly 60 years old.

And Joey.G, there was a lot of time in between Floyd albums. I don't know what picture you were looking at where he looked aged, but seeing pictures at two year intervels makes a big difference. (1973,1975,1977,1979) Not just physical appearance, but style as well. (clothes, hair, etc.) I know I look at a DSOTM picture and then a Wall time picture and I think the same, but that's 6 years.

TGM
10-16-2004, 07:33 AM
I'm reading the site on Syd, and I know I shouldn't laught, but:

Syd seized an orange and a plum from the household fruit bowl and carried them everywhere during his trip. In his altered state the fruits came to represent the planets Jupiter and Venus. Syd imagined himself suspended in place between the two planets for hours until someone ate his plum (Venus) and his universe collapsed.

Damn, I wrote that a few hours ago and left my browser open....

dionysus85
10-16-2004, 10:46 AM
what is your favourite thing (if you can difine one thing) about pink floyd

i guess mine is the little genius touches on their songs instrumenally wise
errr, i dunno what im trying to say so i'll give an eg. the dozen or so bass drum fill a minute or 2 into one of these days, it sounds like someone poundind on a door
and the bass at the beginning of hey you
umm COMPLIMENTS, i think thats what im trying to say
musical compliments to their songs... i think :D

SoulStripper7
10-16-2004, 11:18 AM
The singing, the bass riffs, the guitar solos, and the lyrics are my favourite things about the band.

Danfan3
10-16-2004, 11:51 AM
The guitar solos are my favorite thing about Pink Floyd.

TGM
10-16-2004, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by dionysus85
what is your favourite thing (if you can difine one thing) about pink floyd

David's note placement and his bends.

bwp
10-16-2004, 12:39 PM
The lyrics. Not only that, but the fact that they sing about things worth singing about. Its poetry set to music.

ummagumma
10-16-2004, 02:29 PM
its so hard to pick one favourite thing about the floyd because they are all brilliant musicians, and not to mention the beautiful lyrics... but i love how, on the wall, at the very end of 'outside the wall' some one says (almost inaudibly), "isn't this where..." and at the very beginning of 'in the flesh?' the same person says "...we came in." and they also use the same melody behind each one. that, and how, while they were recording the dark side of the moon, they got people in abbey road to answer questions and recorded their answers and put them on the album. that and so many other things are what made pink floyd great

Doctor Robert
10-16-2004, 03:29 PM
I think they're my second favorite band of all time behind the Beatles.

bwp
10-16-2004, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by ummagumma
its so hard to pick one favourite thing about the floyd because they are all brilliant musicians, and not to mention the beautiful lyrics... but i love how, on the wall, at the very end of 'outside the wall' some one says (almost inaudibly), "isn't this where..." and at the very beginning of 'in the flesh?' the same person says "...we came in." and they also use the same melody behind each one. that, and how, while they were recording the dark side of the moon, they got people in abbey road to answer questions and recorded their answers and put them on the album. that and so many other things are what made pink floyd great

Two of the people they interviewed for that were Paul McCartney and Linda. They didn't use them because it didn't work in to the peice. It's cool that they would sacrifice using those big names to make a better album.

bajeda
10-16-2004, 05:43 PM
hey, does anyone (TGM, bwp) know why Shine On You Crazy diamond is listed as having 9 parts. I know several cds have different parts on them, and Wish You Were Here divides them into two sections. But I am having trouble thinking of why it is, did they record them at different times.

ź├Fire¤nside╗
10-16-2004, 05:46 PM
^ ya thats another thing i was wondering...tons of sites have it as part I-V and then VI-IX, but the album has part 1 and part 2....seems kinda weird

bwp
10-16-2004, 05:49 PM
If you listen, they are individual peices of music blended together. I'm not sure why they did it this way, but certain parts were written by different people.
They divided them into two sections, because Floyd likes to tie things together like that. Animals has Pigs on the Wing pt1 to start and ends with Pigs on the Wing pt2 to end. At the beginning of The Wall the music that is playing before In The Flesh starts in Outside the Wall, and they end it with Outside the Wall. Dark Side of the Moon starts with heartbeats and ends with heart beats. I think it's just something they thought worked and stuck with it.

ź├Fire¤nside╗
10-16-2004, 05:51 PM
ah that clears it up

and it does work well dont it

dionysus85
10-17-2004, 09:26 AM
something i found wierd about in the flesh is that the 2 diffrent ones have the same title, no reprise or pt 2 or anything, it makes it a little confusing
also am i the only one who thinks that the 2nd in the flesh is better in the movie than on the album
i really like bobs wierd singing/screaming and i LOOOVE the orchestra
also i think the album version is just a bit (dare i say it) boring

Cirrus Minor
10-17-2004, 11:18 AM
Well the first one is labled In the Flesh?, and then the second one is In the Flesh, I think its only the question mark that distinguished them apart. The movie version was pretty cool, by that point of the movie I was totally lost

dionysus85
10-17-2004, 11:31 AM
LOL
i never noticed that ? before
im a dumb*ss :D

bwp
10-17-2004, 12:30 PM
Which of their solo albums do you like?

Dave: David Gilmour
About Face

Rick: Broken China
Wet Dream

Roger: Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking
Radio Kaos
Amused to Death

Nick: Fictitious Sports
Profiles

Jimmy_Page_Fan
10-17-2004, 05:45 PM
What does the wall mean? I have anaylzed it... but I'd like to hear someone else's view.

TaterSalad101
10-17-2004, 06:17 PM
To me it was someone that was so outraged with society that he decides to build a wall around himself to protect him from all this that was fueling his anger outside the wall - and things that angered him such as his mother and the school system were all just bricks in the wall.

ummagumma
10-17-2004, 06:28 PM
its amazing that pink floyd wrote something 25 years ago, like the wall, and even today it still makes people wonder. to me the all always seemed like it was about someone who was a very fragile person, and all those things that happened to him kept piling up (like his father's death, school, an overprotective mother and what not), until eventually he got pushed off the edge, but in the end tries to save himself with 'the trial'.

Jimmy_Page_Fan
10-17-2004, 06:46 PM
Well for me it was about someone who's father died, and he took it so badly that he decided to build a wall blocking himself from reality. I consider "another brick in the wall" to be a person. And "the trial" was a decision between keeping or destroying the wall. While Comfortably Numb is something describing the wall once it was up.

Joey .G
10-17-2004, 07:50 PM
Speaking of the Wall, I dont really feel like looking this up so what do the song Vera mean on the Wall? I never really understood the significance of that song.

Cirrus Minor
10-17-2004, 08:44 PM
Im not sure of the signifigance but Vera Lynn was a British singer during the 40s, she sang for soldiers in WWII and the song at the end of Dr Strangelove

dionysus85
10-18-2004, 09:04 AM
i think vera is from the troops POV wishing to return from the war, and back to their old lives (vera as they're girl back home) but sadly, not making it home

"does anybody here remember Vera Lynn?
remember how she said that we would meet again some sunny day

Vera! Vera!
what has become of you?
does anybody else in here feel the way I do?"

Kingston_Man
10-18-2004, 09:53 AM
i know its a bit off the topic but anyway. about 3 years ago when i was 11 one of my friends came to my house and i played him "shine on u crazy diamond" (the cd, i didnt play it myself!) and then when it ended i asked him " you know what song this is?" "no" "what!?!? how can u not know shine on u crazy diamond by pink floyd ?"

now i look back and i just laugh at how stupid i as, i mean how many 11 year olds do u know who listen to pink floyd?

dionysus85
10-18-2004, 10:24 AM
^^^
it just depends what you grow up with
i can rememeber getting a doors CD for my 9th birthday, and singing bat out of hell at the top of my lungs when we first got a CD player and mic (i was probably 7-8, dont ask) :D

UtBDan
10-18-2004, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by TaterSalad101
To me it was someone that was so outraged with society that he decides to build a wall around himself to protect him from all this that was fueling his anger outside the wall - and things that angered him such as his mother and the school system were all just bricks in the wall.

That's how I viewed it. All the other songs are just about what's kept in or outside the wall. "Another brick in the wall" is saying how cruel parents and teachers can be, they're just another brick in the wall. Comfortably numb (in reality) is about the drugs he used to take before a show just to be able to perform, but in the context of the wall it's what Pink has to do to put up with the crap going on. The trial is him starting to view absolutely everything as worms, as what belongs outside his wall. Bringing down the wall is a metaphor for tearing down the barrier between sanity and insanity and all of Pink's set ups beliefs... when the wall goes down, he's lost all hope. Outside the Wall is saying after he snaps how everything now sympathizes with him or views him.

Atleast.. that's how I viewed it.

Doctor Robert
10-18-2004, 12:33 PM
Ya..

He's building a wall around himself to avoid everything external thing in his life.

bajeda
10-18-2004, 01:17 PM
I didn't think he snapped. I'll just explain what I think the wall is about, going through the cd.


It starts out with Pink as a rock star, challenging us to take the plunge into the recesses of his soul, and find what has created the person we see before us today. We then take a trip back to when Pink was born, into a normal loving caring family. Then Daddy goes off to war. The first feelings of loneliness and not belonging emerge from this experience. With no father figure to guide him Pink has to cling to his mother and inner psyche for protection. The loss of his father then cuts away a part of him, and builds the foundation for the wall. When he goes to school the teachers, who have obsessive compulsive wives who make their lives a living hell, destroy his hopes and dreams, and further crush his soul, thus building the first layer of the wall, as he loses another level of guidance and learning that we are all supposed to have. We then see Pink relying fully on his mother for everything, and can't make decisions on his own as with the loss of his father his mother, who now also is depedent on him, wont allow any chance of him going either. The fear of society grows and more layers to the wall are added with the advent of the cold war and the change in society that comes with it, probably accompanied by even more overprotectiveness by his mother. Pink then gradually grows up, realizing more and more that there is a great emptiness in his life that he can not fill, and this leads him into depression, even as he becomes a famous rock star. He engages in all the groupie sex and partying of a rock star, but this disheartens him even more as the wall is so large already he can't feel any emotions any more. He also experiments with psychadelic drugs that further depend his paranoia and schizophrenia. It then gets to the point where Pink wants to commit suicide. Thats the end of the first disc.

The second disc starts with Hey You, which shows that Pink is now fully enclosed by a towering wall that he can not get over. This is reinforced by the next two songs, which are then followed by other snippets of Pink's life in different places in time. Vera and Bring The Boys Back Home deal with a longing for father, emphasizing the effect this had on him, and how it laid the foundation for the wall. He also reminisces about all the other figures who helped build the wall; his mother, the doctor, the teacher, etc. Comfortably Numb shows how Pink's situation further decays as his greedy manager drugs him up to allow him to continue doing shows, even when it is killing him. So commercialism could be seen as another brick in the wall, though it is further emphasized in the movie. In The Flesh shows his ascent into an almost demigod status with his fans. Which sort of represents totalitarianism. In his anger he goes totally out of it and sets his troopers out against the society that isolated him, and in Run Like Hell and the next song events reach their climax until Stop when Pink can't take the horror of what is happening anymore (much like Kurtz's death in Heart of Darkness). He then lowers all defenses and opens himself to the moral judgement of society in his mind. He is found to have shut himself out while still remaining some humanity, which can not be allowed in a living human being, so he must expose himself and tear down the wall. So he must break down the tight grip all those conflicting and despairing emotions and the trauma they have caused has on his mind. And after all the chaos he realizes there have always been people who loved him, yet he could never see it, and finds that he wan't truly himself, and only he created the wall by allowing his emotions to overcome him.

Sorry if thats a bit long, and the structure isn't great, but hopefully that helps a bit. :cheers:

Joey .G
10-18-2004, 03:30 PM
I found the movie of The Wall to make better sense of this ^^. But thats a great explanation. They also left The Show Must Go On out of the movie too didnt they

bajeda
10-18-2004, 03:47 PM
^^^ and hey you as well, which really baffled me as the video for it is really good and fits into the story. whatever.

Joey .G
10-18-2004, 03:58 PM
Ya the video for Hey You was cool but it really wasnt needed but its one of the better songs on the album, and they left it out.

bwp
10-18-2004, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Joey .G
I found the movie of The Wall to make better sense of this ^^. But thats a great explanation. They also left The Show Must Go On out of the movie too didnt they

They also added: When the Tigers Broke Free and What Shall we do now?

Antonio Ulfers
10-18-2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by bajeda
I didn't think he snapped. I'll just explain what I think the wall is about, going through the cd.


It starts out with Pink as a rock star, challenging us to take the plunge into the recesses of his soul, and find what has created the person we see before us today. We then take a trip back to when Pink was born, into a normal loving caring family. Then Daddy goes off to war. The first feelings of loneliness and not belonging emerge from this experience. With no father figure to guide him Pink has to cling to his mother and inner psyche for protection. The loss of his father then cuts away a part of him, and builds the foundation for the wall. When he goes to school the teachers, who have obsessive compulsive wives who make their lives a living hell, destroy his hopes and dreams, and further crush his soul, thus building the first layer of the wall, as he loses another level of guidance and learning that we are all supposed to have. We then see Pink relying fully on his mother for everything, and can't make decisions on his own as with the loss of his father his mother, who now also is depedent on him, wont allow any chance of him going either. The fear of society grows and more layers to the wall are added with the advent of the cold war and the change in society that comes with it, probably accompanied by even more overprotectiveness by his mother. Pink then gradually grows up, realizing more and more that there is a great emptiness in his life that he can not fill, and this leads him into depression, even as he becomes a famous rock star. He engages in all the groupie sex and partying of a rock star, but this disheartens him even more as the wall is so large already he can't feel any emotions any more. He also experiments with psychadelic drugs that further depend his paranoia and schizophrenia. It then gets to the point where Pink wants to commit suicide. Thats the end of the first disc.

The second disc starts with Hey You, which shows that Pink is now fully enclosed by a towering wall that he can not get over. This is reinforced by the next two songs, which are then followed by other snippets of Pink's life in different places in time. Vera and Bring The Boys Back Home deal with a longing for father, emphasizing the effect this had on him, and how it laid the foundation for the wall. He also reminisces about all the other figures who helped build the wall; his mother, the doctor, the teacher, etc. Comfortably Numb shows how Pink's situation further decays as his greedy manager drugs him up to allow him to continue doing shows, even when it is killing him. So commercialism could be seen as another brick in the wall, though it is further emphasized in the movie. In The Flesh shows his ascent into an almost demigod status with his fans. Which sort of represents totalitarianism. In his anger he goes totally out of it and sets his troopers out against the society that isolated him, and in Run Like Hell and the next song events reach their climax until Stop when Pink can't take the horror of what is happening anymore (much like Kurtz's death in Heart of Darkness). He then lowers all defenses and opens himself to the moral judgement of society in his mind. He is found to have shut himself out while still remaining some humanity, which can not be allowed in a living human being, so he must expose himself and tear down the wall. So he must break down the tight grip all those conflicting and despairing emotions and the trauma they have caused has on his mind. And after all the chaos he realizes there have always been people who loved him, yet he could never see it, and finds that he wan't truly himself, and only he created the wall by allowing his emotions to overcome him.

Sorry if thats a bit long, and the structure isn't great, but hopefully that helps a bit. :cheers:

:cheers:

Good job. That is one of the best explanations of the album i've read. That is very similar to how I view it.

Did you write that yourself, or get it off some website?

bwp
10-18-2004, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by bajeda
I didn't think he snapped. I'll just explain what I think the wall is about, going through the cd.


It starts out with Pink as a rock star, challenging us to take the plunge into the recesses of his soul, and find what has created the person we see before us today. We then take a trip back to when Pink was born, into a normal loving caring family. Then Daddy goes off to war. The first feelings of loneliness and not belonging emerge from this experience. With no father figure to guide him Pink has to cling to his mother and inner psyche for protection. The loss of his father then cuts away a part of him, and builds the foundation for the wall. When he goes to school the teachers, who have obsessive compulsive wives who make their lives a living hell, destroy his hopes and dreams, and further crush his soul, thus building the first layer of the wall, as he loses another level of guidance and learning that we are all supposed to have. We then see Pink relying fully on his mother for everything, and can't make decisions on his own as with the loss of his father his mother, who now also is depedent on him, wont allow any chance of him going either. The fear of society grows and more layers to the wall are added with the advent of the cold war and the change in society that comes with it, probably accompanied by even more overprotectiveness by his mother. Pink then gradually grows up, realizing more and more that there is a great emptiness in his life that he can not fill, and this leads him into depression, even as he becomes a famous rock star. He engages in all the groupie sex and partying of a rock star, but this disheartens him even more as the wall is so large already he can't feel any emotions any more. He also experiments with psychadelic drugs that further depend his paranoia and schizophrenia. It then gets to the point where Pink wants to commit suicide. Thats the end of the first disc.

The second disc starts with Hey You, which shows that Pink is now fully enclosed by a towering wall that he can not get over. This is reinforced by the next two songs, which are then followed by other snippets of Pink's life in different places in time. Vera and Bring The Boys Back Home deal with a longing for father, emphasizing the effect this had on him, and how it laid the foundation for the wall. He also reminisces about all the other figures who helped build the wall; his mother, the doctor, the teacher, etc. Comfortably Numb shows how Pink's situation further decays as his greedy manager drugs him up to allow him to continue doing shows, even when it is killing him. So commercialism could be seen as another brick in the wall, though it is further emphasized in the movie. In The Flesh shows his ascent into an almost demigod status with his fans. Which sort of represents totalitarianism. In his anger he goes totally out of it and sets his troopers out against the society that isolated him, and in Run Like Hell and the next song events reach their climax until Stop when Pink can't take the horror of what is happening anymore (much like Kurtz's death in Heart of Darkness). He then lowers all defenses and opens himself to the moral judgement of society in his mind. He is found to have shut himself out while still remaining some humanity, which can not be allowed in a living human being, so he must expose himself and tear down the wall. So he must break down the tight grip all those conflicting and despairing emotions and the trauma they have caused has on his mind. And after all the chaos he realizes there have always been people who loved him, yet he could never see it, and finds that he wan't truly himself, and only he created the wall by allowing his emotions to overcome him.

Sorry if thats a bit long, and the structure isn't great, but hopefully that helps a bit. :cheers:


Hmmm. I wish I would have read this before my review. This is great.

bajeda
10-19-2004, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Antonio Ulfers
:cheers:

Good job. That is one of the best explanations of the album i've read. That is very similar to how I view it.

Did you write that yourself, or get it off some website?

Thanks. I wrote it myself. I just finished a big english essay so my mind was in creative mode, though the grammar and structure is messy as I fried my brain with the actual essay.

LeddyZeppelen
10-19-2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by dionysus85
can anyone help me
i downloaded a live version of comfortably numb about 5 years ago and it blows the studio version out of the water, the solo is amazing, and the whole general fell of it is really good
i was wonderin if anyone knows what gig/bootleg/live album it is from

the entire song goes for 9:28, the solo starts at roughly 4:41
sorry thats about all i can find thats defining

if anyone can help, thank you very very much :D

it could be from delicate sound of thunder. Thats the live Cd they camr oue out with after the Momentary Lapse Tour.

LeddyZeppelen
10-19-2004, 09:29 PM
Oh man, if anybody has the Album Atom heart Mother, youll know how uberly triumphant is Atom Heart Mother Suite, and Summer '68. Ahhhh i love it. It gives me chills!

TGM
10-20-2004, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by bwp
If you listen, they are individual peices of music blended together. I'm not sure why they did it this way, but certain parts were written by different people.
They divided them into two sections, because Floyd likes to tie things together like that. Animals has Pigs on the Wing pt1 to start and ends with Pigs on the Wing pt2 to end. At the beginning of The Wall the music that is playing before In The Flesh starts in Outside the Wall, and they end it with Outside the Wall. Dark Side of the Moon starts with heartbeats and ends with heart beats. I think it's just something they thought worked and stuck with it.

Yea, it's one song with a few themes. I love it when artists do that, I'd alslo love to write a song like that.

ummagumma
10-20-2004, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by LeddyZeppelen
Oh man, if anybody has the Album Atom heart Mother, youll know how uberly triumphant is Atom Heart Mother Suite, and Summer '68. Ahhhh i love it. It gives me chills!
i too discovered that album a while ago, and it's great! 'summer '68' is one of my favourite pink floyd songs, but that album really isn't talked about enough. also, i think that 'alan's psycadelic breakfast' is one of the floyd's most inventive songs

bwp
10-20-2004, 08:17 AM
^^^ I like it AHM too, because Waters, Wright, and Gilmour all had songs on it. They each wrote and sung a song that totally represents there style. Summer of 68 shows you how good Wright can sing and compose music. I strongly recommend his solo album "Wet Dream".

bajeda
10-20-2004, 09:51 AM
^^^^ i just have a burned copy of AHM, so could you tell me who wrote what song on the album?

dionysus85
10-20-2004, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by bajeda
^^^^ i just have a burned copy of AHM, so could you tell me who wrote what song on the album?

Atom Heart Mother

1. Atom Heart Mother Suite: All Parts (Gilmour, Mason, Wright, Waters)
2. If (Waters)
3. Summer 68 (Wright)
4. Fat Old Sun (Gilmour)
5. Alans Psychedelic Breakfast: All Parts (Gilmour, Mason, Wright, Waters)

bajeda
10-20-2004, 10:18 AM
cool, thanks.

Joey .G
10-20-2004, 04:03 PM
I've never bothered to but AHM, so my questions are, whats up with that cow? And what's Alan's Physcadelic Breakfeast about?

And what does everyone think of Obscured By The Clouds album? (I thought about buying that one too)

bwp
10-20-2004, 06:17 PM
I love Obsured by Clouds. I never got to see La Vallee though. I think they have quite a few great songs on there and Free Four is one of my faves. Just look at my sig.

LeddyZeppelen
10-20-2004, 08:28 PM
^ nice signature man.

Another great song on Obscured is Childhoods End. If you really listen to it, you can hear traces of what Pink Floyd might have take "Time" from. And also "The Gold its in the..." is a kick ass song.

bwp
10-20-2004, 09:18 PM
^^^ Burning Bridges and Whats uh the Deal are good too. I love the line, "you turn to speak, but you're alone. A million miles from home, you're on your own."

And in Childhood's End, "They'll be war, they'll be peace. But everything one day will cease. All the iron turned to rust, all the proud men turned to dust."

LeddyZeppelen
10-20-2004, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by bwp
^^^ Burning Bridges and Whats uh the Deal are good too. I love the line, "you turn to speak, but you're alone. A million miles from home, you're on your own."

And in Childhood's End, "They'll be war, they'll be peace. But everything one day will cease. All the iron turned to rust, all the proud men turned to dust."

its those lines that give you chills....man, this band is genious.

Cirrus Minor
10-20-2004, 10:12 PM
I have only heard Obscured by Clouds once while driving with my brother.... I feel Im really missing out :(

ummagumma
10-21-2004, 08:01 AM
obscured by clouds is probably my second favourite floyd album after meddle. i found it on vinyl a couple months ago, and i was so suprised because i thought it would be very hard to find. 'mudmen' and 'childhood's end are my favourite songs off that album. all of them got chances to write songs for it so it makes the album so much better and well rounded. it's definetly worth getting for anyone who doesnt have it.

dionysus85
10-21-2004, 08:34 AM
i dont have OBC but i've been lookin out for it recently at record shops (small australian town, good selection; yeah right!!)

KidC
10-21-2004, 02:12 PM
Does anyone have a picture of the whole band playing together. I went through every page on a google search and there where no pcitures of them playing live!

Joey .G
10-21-2004, 03:10 PM
Try www.pinkfloydz.com I think there might be some on there but I know theres some videos of them live. ( hope its the site I'm thinking of)

KidC
10-21-2004, 03:33 PM
Cheers for the site - "Many of the crowd at the show
were in an unruly mood with some idiots letting off fireworks in the crowd. At one stage an over zealous fan started to get very close to Roger who beckoned the fan closer by calling out "here piggy". When the fan got close enough Roger spat in his face. Roger has said that he regreted this incident and it got him to thinking how Pink Floyd and their fans had become distant and that a wall had come betwen them. The rest is history!" - from site - interesting.

dionysus85
10-22-2004, 07:19 AM
thats a cool site
does anyone know any more good floyd sites???

bwp
10-22-2004, 08:14 AM
pinkfloydhyperbase (http://pinkfloydhyperbase.dk)

SoulStripper7
10-22-2004, 01:04 PM
Man...I just listened to Sorrow the other day and it is my new favourite song. I can't believe people say that David Gilmour lacks lyrical depth. He may not be Roger Waters, but his music and lyrics are still amazing.

bajeda
10-22-2004, 05:59 PM
^^^^ hell yeah man, and he makes his guitar sing so beautifully as well. I wish I could do bends like him man. Im like ashamed to play the comfortably numb solo as it doesn't sound near as good as his.

Joey .G
10-22-2004, 06:07 PM
http://www.pink-floyd.org/faq/ this is also a very good website for interesting facts. This FAQ gives the basis and really cool things you dont know. Its packed full of info so Enjoy!

bwp
10-23-2004, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by SoulStripper7
Man...I just listened to Sorrow the other day and it is my new favourite song. I can't believe people say that David Gilmour lacks lyrical depth. He may not be Roger Waters, but his music and lyrics are still amazing.

Listen to his solo albums he has two. The first one is from 78 and the song "There's no way out of Here" is completely awesome. His About Face album has two or three awesome songs on it. He did some stuff with Pete Townshend. Some songs are a little more 80's than I would like, but Murder, Out of the Blue, and Cruise are magnificent.

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=about+face+gilmour+/v=2/SID=w/l=IVI/SIG=11p4m7leh/*-http%3A//www.allalive.udaff.com/gilmour/1984_about.jpg
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=david+gilmour+album/v=2/SID=w/l=IVI/SIG=125vf2e4h/*-http%3A//www.davidgilmour.nl/dg-solo/albums/album_davidgilmour.jpg

SoulStripper7
10-23-2004, 12:56 PM
^^Yeah, I as thinking about getting his solo albums.

BrainDamage
10-23-2004, 08:57 PM
I just went to see the Australian Pink Floyd band and they were awesome. They flawlessly played the entire Dark Side of the Moon, and did Shine On (pts. 1-5) Careful With that Axe, Eugene, ONE OF THESE DAYS (this was incredible), Happiest Days/ABITW, and more very very well. As for a Pink Floyd reunion-not happening. I think Nick Mason was on a local radio station a few weeks ago and said it was nothing but rumors. But if it did...i would give up everything i have in life to see it.

I couldnt tell you my favorite Pink Floyd album, or even song. Only problem is I havent really listened to any of the older stuff- especially with Syd Barret, I dont know why though...i will try and listen to some more.

Oh, and anybody here like the song Fearless off of Meddle?

Cirrus Minor
10-23-2004, 09:06 PM
Fearless made me buy Meddle, which is the best song on an excellent album. I have never seen the Australian Pink Floyd, but I have heard nothing but good about them

al_
10-23-2004, 11:23 PM
what a great band, i think they are the most intelligent musicians out there

floydman11
10-24-2004, 01:36 AM
best pink floyd song is shine on you crazy dimond, anyone who said money is a poser, probbley the only song they know by pink floyd.

bwp
10-24-2004, 02:14 AM
^^^ wow. That's an ignorant thing to say. Money is a great song. Just because it is popular doesnt mean its for posers. I've listened to every Floyd song I've ever heard of, and I still think Money is excellent.

Your opinion is just that. Opinion.

dionysus85
10-24-2004, 09:37 AM
man thats is deffinetly quite an opinion
money is a cool song, a mate of mine has 5 floyd albums and thats his fav song
and anyway, shine on is a very popular song by em too, you could say anyone who like that is a poser
and i could be super cool and say my fav song is san tropez (actually ir is one of my favs) which is pretty unknown
so... whatever man
at least you got good taste in bands :D

burnout06
10-24-2004, 12:43 PM
call me a poser then, money has a badass bass line, amazing guitar solos, and brilliant lyrics.

Chak
10-24-2004, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by wilty00
Awesome... 6th post of the big thread.... anyway,

the wall is probably my fav album, and money my fav song

Me too bud!!:cheers:

slapshot2205
10-24-2004, 03:55 PM
Money is an excellent song It was my favorite pink floyd song for a long time. And Im am not a poser for it becuase i had also listened to many other pink floyd songs before i decided Money was my favorite pink floyd song. My new favorite Floyd song is Time though for that sick solo and lyrics and hell everything about it.

SoulStripper7
10-24-2004, 06:01 PM
Money is one of my favourites too, but I've listened to helluva lot of their albums. BTW I just watched The Wall for my first time and all i have to say is...woah. Thats one heck of an amazing film, I must say. The animation is fantastic. My new favourite PF song is Sorrow.

fr0zt
10-24-2004, 07:44 PM
I can't ever listen to just one of PF's songs, I gotta listen to the whole albums. IE: DSOTM... if I hear Money on the radio, I don't get the same effect if I didn't hear Great Gig in the Sky right before it.

SoulStripper7
10-24-2004, 08:31 PM
^^I agree totally.

LeddyZeppelen
10-24-2004, 08:50 PM
Does anyone have the album "Animals" I love that album. It is definately one of my favorites. I especially love the mysterious quality of the album. From the psalm read in "Sheep" and the lyrics of "Dogs" and "pigs". "Pigs on the wing 1 & 2) are so mellow and calm which is complely juxtaposing the rest of the songs on the album. I also heard that Animals is about the book Animal Farm. I read the book and I could totally see how it relates.

SoulStripper7
10-24-2004, 09:02 PM
^^Yeah, I heard that it is related to the book.

ummagumma
10-25-2004, 07:58 AM
the album 'animals' is partially based on the book 'animal farm', because george orwell wrote it as one giant metaphor for the russian revolution. he used sheep as the blind followers, pigs as the leaders of the revolution who took power from the humans(who were the leaders before the revolution), but became more and more like the humans the longer they were in power, and the dogs took direct orders from the pigs and were used as some sort of police force or army (not so sure about that one, but correct me if i'm wrong). when pink floyd did the album they based it on the same characters and whatnot, but i'm mostly sure that theirs isn't about the russian revolution, its just a metaphor for society and the people in it. either way, its a great album. my favourite song from it is pigs (three different ones).

bwp
10-25-2004, 08:23 AM
^^^ you got it man.

Pigs on the WIng 1 and 2 are pretty much a love song to Roger's then wife Caroline. He said if he found a girl who could understand him and think like him Pigs would fly. Listen to the words now.

Steelrod
10-25-2004, 02:25 PM
With all respect to those of you who apperciate the wall Floyds best albums are the ones that only have Five Songs, wish you were here, animals, meddle, atom heart mother. Roger waters does not need pink floyd, pink floyd needs roger waters. David John Gilmour shares the first and middle name with myself and I dont think there has been an original or more talented guitarist quite like dave, exept maybe and not even by a long shot tool's adam jones. After seeing live at pompeii i have found a new respect for nick mason and nick wright what phenominal performance by all. Best band ever!!! Refute and lose!!!

also the most under rated floyd album the final cut:peace:

Y2A 66
10-25-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by bwp
^^^ you got it man.

Pigs on the WIng 1 and 2 are pretty much a love song to Roger's then wife Caroline. He said if he found a girl who could understand him and think like him Pigs would fly. Listen to the words now.


Hey man thats a really cool explanation. The song makes so much more sense now!

:cheers:

Cirrus Minor
10-25-2004, 05:28 PM
I read Animal Farm in like 7th grade and 2 months later I discovered Pink Floyds Animals, and I was just :eek:
Thats all I could talk about to my friends, they just hated me.
My favorite song on that album is Sheep, its such a ride, and I absolutely love the lyrics in the song. "The Dogs are Dead!!"

bwp
10-25-2004, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Steelrod
With all respect to those of you who apperciate the wall Floyds best albums are the ones that only have Five Songs, wish you were here, animals, meddle, atom heart mother. Roger waters does not need pink floyd, pink floyd needs roger waters. David John Gilmour shares the first and middle name with myself and I dont think there has been an original or more talented guitarist quite like dave, exept maybe and not even by a long shot tool's adam jones. After seeing live at pompeii i have found a new respect for nick mason and nick wright what phenominal performance by all. Best band ever!!! Refute and lose!!!

also the most under rated floyd album the final cut:peace:

good point, but meddle has six songs. I also think the Final Cut is a very underrated album. I also have the most respect for Nick Mason. He isn't given enough credit and is the only member of Floyd to play in every single album. He's the man.

ummagumma
10-25-2004, 06:42 PM
^^ I agree. The Final Cut is a great album, though it is quite underrated. Roger Waters did some of his best song writing for this album, more specifically on 'The Fletcher Memorial Home'. The first time I heard this it blew me away, especially the last verse...

"Take all your overgrown infants away, somewhere,
And build them a home, a little place of their own.
The Fletcher Memorial Home for incurable tyrants and kings.
And they can appear to themselves every day,
On closed circuit T.V. to make sure they're still real.
It's the only connection they feel.

"Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Reagan and Haig,
Mr. Begin and friend, Mrs. Thatcher and Paisley,
Mr. Brezhnev and party, the ghost of McCarthy,
The memories of Nixon. And now adding colour,
A group of anonymous Latin-American meat packing glitterati."

Did they expect us to treat them with any respect?
They can polish their medals and sharpen their smiles,
And amuse themselves playing games for a while.
Boom boom, bang bang, lie down you're dead.

Safe in the permanent gaze of a cold glass eye,
With their favorite toys, they'll be good girls and boys.
In the Fletcher Memorial Home for colonial wasters of life and limb.
Is everone in? Are you having a nice time?
Now the final solution can be applied."

bwp
10-25-2004, 11:52 PM
Every lyric in that album is genious.

"the final cut" if it weren't a song, it would be in a poetry book somewhere. Just read it as if it doesn't have music.

through the fish eyed lens of tear stained eyes
i can barely define the shape of this moment in time
and far from flying high in clear blue skies
i'm spiralling down to the hole in the ground where I hide

if you negotiate the minefields in the drive
and beat the dogs and cheat the cold electronic eyes
and if you make it past the shotgun in the hall
dial the combination open the priesthole
and if i'm in i'll tell you what's behind the wall

there's a kid who had a big hallucination
making love to girls in magazines
he wonders if you're sleeping with your new found faith
could anybody love him
or is it just a crazy dream

and if i show you my dark side
will you still hold me tonight
and if i open my heart to you
and show you my weak side
what would you do
would you sell your story to rolling stone
would you take the children away
and leave me all alone
and smile in reassurance
as you whisper down the phone
would you send me packing
or would you take me home

thought i oughta bare my naked feelings
thought i oughta tear the curtain down
i held the blade in trembling hands
prepared to make it but just then the phone rang
i never had the nerve to make the final cut

Stinging_Acid
10-26-2004, 11:09 AM
Waters is a genius of words.

ummagumma
10-26-2004, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Stinging_Acid
Waters is a genius of words.
Indeed. If it weren't for his lyrical guidance Pink Floyd would never have been the great band we all know and love. By the time he was writing all the lyrics, the songs had so much more meaning and depth, which complemented the band's musical brilliance so well.

KidC
10-26-2004, 01:07 PM
^^How depressing

SoulStripper7
10-26-2004, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by KidC
^^How depressing

How the heck that is that depressing?

KidC
10-26-2004, 05:03 PM
^My opinion - depressing lyrics - but i like Pink Floyd.

SoulStripper7
10-26-2004, 05:08 PM
^^Oh I thought you meant the post was depressing...sorry. BTE you guys I just listened to Murder off of David Gilmour's solo album About Face. It's great...he is really a good lyric writer, and a fantastic music writer.

bwp
10-26-2004, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by KidC
^My opinion - depressing lyrics - but i like Pink Floyd.


Of course it's depressing. It's a tribute to the people who died in WWII. His father for one. He expressed how people loved them and then forgot about them. It's a sad story and he conveys is it perfectly. Its not the subjects he choses that makes him good. It's the way he pens it.

LeddyZeppelen
10-26-2004, 08:42 PM
^ I agree. Waters did put many homages about his father into his music and about war time. The Wall has a lot of that. I think the whole album Wish you Were Here is depressing. Its a touching tribute to Syd Barret. And the album is like telling a story about Syd. Thats why Shine on You and Wish you Were Here are such strong songs. Its explaining how they feel in such a way that you feel it too. Its amazing, Pink Floyd is one of the only bands that can make you feel that certain way. Wow, it almost makes me tear when I hear the lyrics

"How I wish, how i wish you were here"

bwp
10-27-2004, 12:12 AM
"ashes and diamonds, foe and friend. We were all equal in the end."

dionysus85
10-27-2004, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by bwp
"ashes and diamonds, foe and friend. We were all equal in the end."

great song that
and damn it has good lyrics

i cant figure out what it is actually about
it seems like probably a big meteor hitting the planet and he is sorta thinking about his life, but is there more to it than that????

bwp
10-27-2004, 08:21 AM
Its more like nuclear war. A new holocaust. " the sun is in the east even though the day is done. Two suns in the sunset could mean the human race is run." The second sun is an a-bomb. Then its mahem. Truck crashes, scream, etc. "and as the windsheild melts, my tears evaporate."

Its so creepy because while he sits in his car burning, he thinks about how "we were all equal in the end"

dionysus85
10-27-2004, 09:32 AM
ahhh ok
i had a feelin it was something like that

i love all the floyds lyrics and title and imagery in theyre work, ie. 2 suns in the sunset, great gig in the sky, saucerful of secrets, set the controls for the heart of the sun, careful with that axe eugene etc etc
so cool

whats everybodys fav instumental track by the floyd??

Joey .G
10-27-2004, 06:00 PM
Mine is probably One Of These Days

Danfan3
10-27-2004, 06:53 PM
My favorite instrumental track by them is Atom Heart Mother.

LeddyZeppelen
10-27-2004, 07:12 PM
^ that song kicks ass

my other favorite is Any Colour you Like

bwp
10-27-2004, 07:26 PM
Is there anybody out there? if that counts. if not, One of these Days.

BrainDamage
10-27-2004, 07:44 PM
Does anyone have the album "Animals" I love that album. It is definately one of my favorites. I especially love the mysterious quality of the album. From the psalm read in "Sheep" and the lyrics of "Dogs" and "pigs". "Pigs on the wing 1 & 2) are so mellow and calm which is complely juxtaposing the rest of the songs on the album. I also heard that Animals is about the book Animal Farm. I read the book and I could totally see how it relates. Animals is definately one of my favorite albums. Sheep is probably my favorite. The last two minutes of it is the best part of the song (in my opinion, the entire album). Dogs is also great, the vocals are well done, the guitars are great. My favorite part is the end (who was born in a house full of pain...) Pigs (3 Diff Ones) is also great, it's different but thats what makes it so good. I love the lyrics and vocals in this song. Plus, its got a talkbox :D As for the Animal Farm thing, never heard it but i could see how that could happen.

As for my favorite instrumental- One of These Days kicks ASS.

Wow, it almost makes me tear when I hear the lyrics

"How I wish, how i wish you were here" I totally agree. Wish You Were Here is a beautiful song, probably one of Pink Floyd's best.

Is it just me or does anybody like the little songs from the Wall that are only a few seconds long, such as Vera, The Show Must Go On, and the best two shorter songs- Outside the Wall and Goodbye, Cruel World (each track ends each cd- i just think its a perfect way to end them).

wow, I'm going to go listen to some more Pink Floyd...

Cirrus Minor
10-27-2004, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by BrainDamage
Is it just me or does anybody like the little songs from the Wall that are only a few seconds long, such as Vera, The Show Must Go On, and the best two shorter songs- Outside the Wall and Goodbye, Cruel World (each track ends each cd- i just think its a perfect way to end them).

wow, I'm going to go listen to some more Pink Floyd...

Totally agree, Vera was actually my favorite Pink Floyd song when I heard it. The smaller songs seem to fall in between the cracks of the bigger ones like Run Like Hell, Comfortably Numb, Mother, and Another Brick in the Wall. All those songs you mention are top notch. Im suprised more people dont know"Nobody Home", its one of my all time favorite songs but many Pink Floyd fans are unfamiliar with it.

LeddyZeppelen
10-27-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Cirrus Minor
Totally agree, Vera was actually my favorite Pink Floyd song when I heard it. The smaller songs seem to fall in between the cracks of the bigger ones like Run Like Hell, Comfortably Numb, Mother, and Another Brick in the Wall. All those songs you mention are top notch. Im suprised more people dont know"Nobody Home", its one of my all time favorite songs but many Pink Floyd fans are unfamiliar with it.

Nobody home is such a great song. You are right that Nobody Home is underated. I also think that One of my Turns is underated. And as for short songs on the Wall, Antoher Brick in the Wall III wins my award.

"Ive got my little black book with my poems in..."

BrainDamage
10-27-2004, 08:34 PM
Totally agree, Vera was actually my favorite Pink Floyd song when I heard it. The smaller songs seem to fall in between the cracks of the bigger ones like Run Like Hell, Comfortably Numb, Mother, and Another Brick in the Wall. All those songs you mention are top notch. Im suprised more people dont know"Nobody Home", its one of my all time favorite songs but many Pink Floyd fans are unfamiliar with it. Your right, they seem to fall perfectly inbetween the more popular, longer songs. And by the way, I LOVE Nobody Home.

Anybody ever see the Wall Live in concert, either live or a bootleg dvd/tape?

SoulStripper7
10-27-2004, 09:10 PM
My favourite instrumental is One of these days, and my favourite short song is outside the wall and goodbye cruel world.

LeddyZeppelen
10-27-2004, 10:41 PM
I have the Wall live in Berlin. That concert is insaneeeeeeeeeeeeee. About a million people and that huge 90 foot wall. Pink Floyd knows how to put on a show.

bwp
10-28-2004, 12:51 AM
Yep. I have the Berlin version by Waters and a copy of the 1980 Nassau Collusium show. They are so awesome.

On an unrelated topic. On the Pompeii video, when Nick Mason is talking, Dave's playing a weird little riff. If you know what I'm talking about, does that not sound like NIB by Sabbath? It's a little ways after the "its a bit toppy" part.

Matty Ramone
10-28-2004, 01:11 AM
Berlin roger waters

I love the scorpions coming in a limo
and bryan adams rocked doing young lust
also the sound went out during a part of it
for sinade mother was dubbed in from dress rehearsal

NOV 30th 25 th anniversary for the wall

dionysus85
10-28-2004, 05:56 AM
^^^^^^^
its not gonna be less toppy
if anything its gonna be more toppy

i said to my brother the other day that his guitar sounded to toppy, he looked at me like im an idiot :)

about that nobodys home talk on previous page, its a really great song i think it was on a b-side to one of the singles released from the wall

also is there any other versions/live recordings of echoes other than on meddle or pompeii???

:cheers:

bwp
10-28-2004, 08:17 AM
If you can find a bootleg. Those are the only released versions. It seems like I have one floating around. I think its a Dark Side concert. Its called Crackers. I don't know why.

"it can't possibly be more toppy."
"OK"
"if anything its more toppy. I mean less toppy"

dionysus85
10-28-2004, 08:36 AM
do you mean the song is called crackers or the bootleg is called crackers, and wherer did you get it?

and i hope it doesnt sound too toppy?? :D

bwp
10-28-2004, 01:03 PM
hehe. The album is called Crackers. It live at the Hollywood Bowl amphetheatre in 73 or 74. Its the DSOTM tour. I found it in a record store.
The same store I got my 72 live DSOTM vinyl. It is pre studio so some of the songs are different. They didn't know it was Floyd because its titled Screaming Abdabs: Eclipse. A good find if you ask me.

BrainDamage
10-28-2004, 10:36 PM
Yep. I have the Berlin version by Waters and a copy of the 1980 Nassau Collusium show. They are so awesome. ah finally someone who has seen a concert of the real Wall shows back in 1980-1981. I have a copy of the show from Earls Court and it is amazing. Nobody Home on the pullout hotel from the Wall itself, Gilmour on top of the wall for Comfortably Numb, Gilmour and Waters SHARING the mic on Young Lust, ahhh its all so good.

And speaking of bootlegs, I just got a bootleg from the 1977 Animals Tour, Oakland i think? They sound fantastic on their respective instruments, but Gilmour's voice is a little off...he sounds drunk in my opinion...

LeddyZeppelen
10-28-2004, 10:44 PM
I have Pompeii. I think echoes is amazing on that DVD. It was really interesting to see them play that song live. And wow Masons drumming is phonomenal live. Also in Live In Pompeii, I find it hilariouss how saucerful of secrets is played so, whats the word, nonchalantly i guess you could say. Wright is just slamming his hands on the piano, Gilmour is on the ground in the dust just sliding on the guitar and not even playing a real melody, Waters is banging on the gong, and at the same time Mason is playing that incredibly hard beat in the backround. Amazing.

bwp
10-28-2004, 10:44 PM
^^^ the animals show is a bit rough sounding. I have the Quebec show where Roger cusses out the audience for lighting fireworks. Its the show that got the wall rolling.

bwp
10-28-2004, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by LeddyZeppelen
I have Pompeii. I think echoes is amazing on that DVD. It was really interesting to see them play that song live. And wow Masons drumming is phonomenal live. Also in Live In Pompeii, I find it hilariouss how saucerful of secrets is played so, whats the word, nonchalantly i guess you could say. Wright is just slamming his hands on the piano, Gilmour is on the ground in the dust just sliding on the guitar and not even playing a real melody, Waters is banging on the gong, and at the same time Mason is playing that incredibly hard beat in the backround. Amazing.

Did you see where Mason broke his stick and grabs another without skipping a beat? Thats funny you mentioned it. I just watched it about an hour ago. haha:cheers:

LeddyZeppelen
10-28-2004, 10:50 PM
^ oh yeah man. I think Mason is so much better live. Hes a great drummer and you cant tell how good of a drummer he is from recordings. Especially on "Piper" because you can barely even hear him on that album. Except I wish they didnt pan on him the whole time during "One of these days" during the Pompeii DVD.:)

YourPossiblePas
10-29-2004, 12:24 AM
i really hope theres a reunion tour. i think id just burst out in a fit of screaming hands down my favorite band

dionysus85
10-29-2004, 07:04 AM
check this site out i just found
an index of all pink floyd albums and bootlegs
pretty sweet

BWP i saw crackers on there, sounds good, im jealous :D

http://www.pf-roio.de/roio/roio-lp-index-name.html

jono034
10-29-2004, 07:48 AM
^awesome site

:cheers:

bwp
10-29-2004, 08:20 AM
Yeah I've seen that site. It's pretty good. Check out the one that says Screaming Abdabs: Brain Damage. It looks post studio though. Damn. I wish I could find a picture of it.

I have the Dark Side of the Moo also. It has cows on it. All early stuff with Syd and right after Syd.

jono034
10-29-2004, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by bwp
Yeah I've seen that site. It's pretty good. Check out the one that says Screaming Abdabs: Brain Damage. It looks post studio though. Damn. I wish I could find a picture of it.

I have the Dark Side of the Moo also. It has cows on it. All early stuff with Syd and right after Syd.

I just use the two sites you gave me. . .

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/7150/waters.htm

and

http://www.pinkfloydhyperbase.dk/unreleased/

zrguitar
10-29-2004, 04:32 PM
Alright, someone at my guitar store was telling me about when the division bell came out or something someone was getting on the internet and posting that there were clues or something on the cover and on the songs and stuff and their would be a prize or something. i think the person that was posting went by a name with a P(pribuis, primuis, something like that) and some people thought it was a joke and some thought it was the band or something. can somebody tell me what the hell this is?

bwp
10-29-2004, 06:15 PM
publius enigma (http://www.publiusenigma.com)

check this one out.

SoulStripper7
10-29-2004, 06:24 PM
Omg, on one of their albums, I believe it was Momentary Lapse of Reason, there were two MiniDiscs, and on one it said "ENIGMA" and on the other it said "PUBLIUS". I had always wondered what that was...

bwp
10-29-2004, 07:09 PM
^^^ yep. I thought it was the Learning to Fly single though. I could be wrong too.

dionysus85
10-29-2004, 09:10 PM
i recently watched pompeii again and i was just a lil confuseed, on mademoiselle nobs, who is playing bass?? i figure its nick, since roger is playing guitar, dave is playing harp and rick got the mic for the dog

EDIT: also i was just wondering, on DSOTM, who is the woman that says "i was deffinetly in the right that geezer was cruisin for a bruisin"
i figured it might have been linda mccartney coz i saw on classic albums: DSOTM, that wings came and read the cards for the voices, but someone said that only dennys was used "dunno i was really drunk at the time"
so who is the woman, and is there a website of audio files of the voices

:cheers:

bwp
10-30-2004, 02:27 AM
Thats a good question about Mademoiselle nobs. I havn't noticed that before....

The woman's name is Patricia "Puddy" Watts. They did interview Paul and Linda, but thought their familiarity would disrupt the end product. They just didn't fit.

Most of the people are just anonymous EMI employees. "There is no dark side of the moon. Matter of fact, its all dark" - Jerry the doorman.

dionysus85
10-30-2004, 04:39 AM
cheers man
sh*t you know your pink floyd stuff
i dub thee "Prof. Pink"
:D

Matty Ramone
10-30-2004, 05:28 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cirrus Minor
[B]Fearless made me buy Meddle, which is the best song on an excellent album


me to fearless is my favorite floyd song
I hope I do a good review for meddle in december

SoulStripper7
10-30-2004, 12:32 PM
Hey Dionysus, is your signature from the pink floyd song One Of These Days? Sorry to *****, but I believe the line is "One of these days I'm going to tear you into little pieces", not cut...just a suggestion if you want to change it.

I was wondering if any of you found that the music from the Syd Barrett days was a little freaky. I'd be listening to Bike or Astronomy Domine and it scares me the same way as The Beatles druggie albums scare me. Just wondering if any of you people think the same way.

bwp
10-30-2004, 02:06 PM
^^^ I don't think the Beatles every scared me, but Syd's stuff weirds me out too. It just the thought of listening to someone that's crazy. During a lot of his songs, he is nuts and knows it. It's crazy to think that a person mentally unstable can make music. During madcap laughs, Dave had to follow him around in the studio with a microphone. He even needed help going to the bathroom.

Its CUT, by the way.

ummagumma
10-30-2004, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by SoulStripper7
Hey Dionysus, is your signature from the pink floyd song One Of These Days? Sorry to *****, but I believe the line is "One of these days I'm going to tear you into little pieces", not cut...just a suggestion if you want to change it.

I was wondering if any of you found that the music from the Syd Barrett days was a little freaky. I'd be listening to Bike or Astronomy Domine and it scares me the same way as The Beatles druggie albums scare me. Just wondering if any of you people think the same way.
Most of the music from the late '60s was very trippy and psycadelic, because it was just the flavour of the time, but I've never found the Beatles stuff particularily freaky. Although the Syd Barrett stuff can be weird at times, mostly because you are listening to someone whose mind is disintegrating, and he knows it too, especially on Jugband Blues,
"It's awfully considerate of you to think of me here
And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear that I'm not here."

Joey .G
10-30-2004, 04:27 PM
I never find Floyd scary but some of its weird like the ticking at the end of bike and the screams in Echoes.

SoulStripper7
10-30-2004, 05:15 PM
Oh, sorry, it is cut on One of These Days. It just sounds like tear to me. Either that or I read some incorrect lyrics.