The official dream theater thread.

[leeb rocks]

Take The Time still omitting the best part, I assume?

It and Voices were both missing a verse each.

[Neo Evil11]

It and Voices were both missing a verse each.

stupid progressive nation, I am only going to an evening with! How can DT be summarised in 1.5 hours?

[leeb rocks]

stupid progressive nation, I am only going to an evening with! How can DT be summarised in 1.5 hours?

Be prepared to wait for a while.

[Craig_241]

I got John Petrucci's guitar pick at the Glasgow PN show. :p:

[leeb rocks]

I got John Petrucci's guitar pick at the Glasgow PN show. :p:

**** and die! :mad:

You must have been about 5 feet in front of me then.

[DaFjory]

It and Voices were both missing a verse each.

Which verse from Voices?

[leeb rocks]

Which verse from Voices?

"**** this *****
drink a troll
now they're in my mind and I'm right-ee-o"

You know the one I mean.

[Xplozive]

Brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNTGn_MYaqg

Thanks for letting me know about that, Akerfeldt rocks.
LaBrie is sounding really good there :P Hope he's as good as that when they're in Aus.

[Deplorable]

Yeah me too, I'm sure that song will be fantastic live, I hope they play a good set in Sydney.

[Xplozive]

Yeah me too, I'm sure that song will be fantastic live, I hope they play a good set in Sydney.
I'm seeing them in Melbourne :P gonna be a bit of a road trip with me and my mate but its gonna be awesome. Gonna listen to DT the whole way :P

[Alter-Bridge]

They better play like 5000 hours and have a fantastic set in Sydney. (Note that they must play A Nightmare To Remember, The Count of Tuscany, Voices, Scarred, Caught In A Web and In The Name of God)

[Xplozive]

They better play like 5000 hours and have a fantastic set in Sydney. (Note that they must play A Nightmare To Remember, The Count of Tuscany, Voices, Scarred, Caught In A Web and In The Name of God)
I don't reckong they'll play voices, played it last time. Hope they mix it up a lot from last time :D Apart from the new songs obviously

[Deplorable]

Not "an evening with" this time round so its only going to be 2 hours, maybe a bit longer.

[Butt Rayge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5egA3dZ91Dc&NR=1

**** me dead.

Put the biggest smile on my face.

This, too

http://liamgaughan.com/tsf.html

[Neo Evil11]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5egA3dZ91Dc&NR=1

**** me dead.

Put the biggest smile on my face.

This, too

http://liamgaughan.com/tsf.html

the wither one is fantastic

[lobster624]

that made my day. thank you!

[Zanon]

They played 'The Mirror' at Wembley :eek: was awesome

[Zaphod_Beeblebr]

They played 'The Mirror' at Wembley :eek: was awesome

Someone posted a set list on the last page dude :p:

But yes, it was awesome. In my opinion the whole night was severly epic and awesome and win, all at the same time.

[Neo Evil11]

They played 'The Mirror' at Wembley :eek: was awesome

that would ruin the setlist for me (well not ruin, but all the greaty songs they could have played instead of the mirror).

About that: anyone else feels like DT makes setlists today to be heavy, energetic and progressive, instead of mellow too? They have so much great mellow songs, but only the spirit carries on and hollow years get a regular play. I'd love to see them perform good night's kiss or disappear, eve etc. but yeah in a 1.5 hour setlist there isn't much to play :mad:

[Butt Rayge]

I'd much rather see the heavy stuff live, to be honest.

[Deplorable]

Yeah me too, live sets where they just play softer stuff are lame, I don't mind a few, but it just wears thin after a few.

[Myung-trucci]

lol, I just noticed that the post-chorus riff in Misunderstood sounds so much like A Rite Of Passage

[Xplozive]

lol, I just noticed that the post-chorus riff in Misunderstood sounds so much like A Rite Of Passage
Only just? It was the first thing that came into mind, I think I posted it ages ago :P

[vanshaya]

Yeah me too, live sets where they just play softer stuff are lame, I don't mind a few, but it just wears thin after a few.
Honestly, I'd kill to see Another Day, Repentance and Wither live.

[leeb rocks]

Ha I completely forgot to mention JLB ****ing TCOT up something awful when I saw them (Glasgow show).

He sang the lyrics for the first verse normally for about 2 lines then slipped into the second verse lyrics completely throwing off everyone singing along.

Other than that flawless show. Anyone else really liking the projector vids up during the songs? The one for erotomania especially is astounding (if you haven't seen it, it basically goes through a screen of all DT's album covers and then zooms in on it and shows animations of the album art. Really improved an already great song.

But ****, the ambient section it TCOT drags just as much live which is depressing.

[duncang]

The animations were brilliant just for the bit where an elephant started painting.

Painting flowers.

[leeb rocks]

The animations were brilliant just for the bit where an elephant started painting.

Painting flowers.

Well what else would it paint?

And I never saw that one. Thankfully we got hollow years in place of Wither.

[Zaphod_Beeblebr]

Anyone else really liking the projector vids up during the songs?

I loved JRs wizard guy playing in time with him, thought that was quite epic.

[lobster624]

what tours/how many times have you guys seen DT?

i saw em on their SC tour and at Prog Nation 1. both were pretty awesome although the setlist on their SC tour could have been better from what i remember.

[Zaphod_Beeblebr]

what tours/how many times have you guys seen DT?

i saw em on their SC tour and at Prog Nation 1. both were pretty awesome although the setlist on their SC tour could have been better from what i remember.

4 times now: Download 2007, the DT/Symphony X Tour (Chaos in Motion?), Download 2009 and the Progressive Nation date at Wembley Arena just gone.

[Alter-Bridge]

I'm disappointed in you guys, I really am, usually you guys discover every single little detail about everything. However yesterday I discovered JERRY FUCKING GOODMAN played Violin on Black Clouds and Silver Linings. How did nobody else catch this?!!!?!

[Butt Rayge]

Acoustic version of The Root Of All Evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmBZSAstNd8&feature=channel

I suggest you listen to As I Am, by the same user.

[Neo Evil11]

I have seen DT 3 times:
graspop this year
fields of rock after SC was released
and in october on the SC tour.
I got into them right after they had been to Europe for their Octavarium tour :(
would have loved to see that one

[wil]

I'm beginning to think that the first three minutes of The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun is the best think DT have ever done. So...atmospheric. I wish they'd do more stuff like this!

[Neo Evil11]

I'm beginning to think that the first three minutes of The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun is the best think DT have ever done. So...atmospheric. I wish they'd do more stuff like this!

That is indeed amazing, beste section of the album.
i actually learned it on bass and made a tab. But for some reason it was denied :(
But not the best that DT has done I think :p:
You have the ending to Octavarium, the part before the ending of SoC etc. etc. etc.

[lobster624]

4 times now: Download 2007, the DT/Symphony X Tour (Chaos in Motion?), Download 2009 and the Progressive Nation date at Wembley Arena just gone.

yeah chaos in motion is what it was called. i couldn't remember either so i just put the SC tour. i wish the US tour had SX though....

[InTheFlesh!]

yeah chaos in motion is what it was called. i couldn't remember either so i just put the SC tour. i wish the US tour had SX though....
agreed, (was it the same bands as in Canada? ->) but I enjoyed Redemption a LOT. Into Eternity, not as much.

[lobster624]

yup same support bands. we had a third one whose name i can't recall. probably because they sucked

[leeb rocks]

I've only seen them the once and that was on this PN tour a week ago.

And as far as openers go you would be hard pressed to beat Opeth. Porcupine Tree probably would but I don't see that happening again.,

[titsmcgee852]

I'm disappointed in you guys, I really am, usually you guys discover every single little detail about everything. However yesterday I discovered JERRY FUCKING GOODMAN played Violin on Black Clouds and Silver Linings. How did nobody else catch this?!!!?!
Because no-one else knows who Jerry Goodman is.

[Alter-Bridge]

Because no-one else knows who Jerry Goodman is.
Fuck me. Looks like you posers don't listen to Fusion after all! Where the hell is DaFajory or whoever the hell he is?

[Deplorable]

HOLY **** JERRY GOODMAN, ahem, I regret not checking this thread for a while but oh my god that is awesome.

[titsmcgee852]

I never said I listened to fusion! :mad:

[LucasGtrGod]

From what physics taught me of fusion I seriously doubt that it would be a fun thing to listen to.

[titsmcgee852]

olololol

[leeb rocks]

I thought it was common knowlege :shrug: . There was a wee bit of an "oh that's nice" when the odysey cover came out but other than that no big fuss was made of it (till now).

[Butt Rayge]

Odyssey cover?

As in, Symphony X's Odyssey?

[leeb rocks]

Odyssey cover?

As in, Symphony X's Odyssey?

Dixie Dregs Odyssey. It was one of the covers released in the run up to BCSL (and probably the best).

[Shredx]

agreed, (was it the same bands as in Canada? ->) but I enjoyed Redemption a LOT. Into Eternity, not as much.

ahh I love into eternity wish they were on PN for the europe bit :)

[Zanon]

Dixie Dregs Odyssey. It was one of the covers released in the run up to BCSL (and probably the best).

I really like the Queen cover which is closely followed by Odyssey and Larks Tongues pt2

[titsmcgee852]

The Zebra cover is amazing. I'm trying to work out the solo but I can't get the first lick and a chord in there.

[deathsquirrel]

Odyssey cover?

As in, Symphony X's Odyssey?
If DT covered that, I would get an erection.

[Alter-Bridge]

HOLY **** JERRY GOODMAN, ahem, I regret not checking this thread for a while but oh my god that is awesome.
Thank you!

One person out of all of you guys, foreshame! :mad:

[Butt Rayge]

If DT covered that, I would get an erection.
Hence why I asked.

In all honestly though, no-one will ever cover and top Symphony X. Especially not with the Odyssey.

I don't think anyone will cover them, period. (Seems kinda stupid when written out, since I actually used a period.)

[Ignite]

So about JP singing Wither... I just heard it and very much liked it. Though it does sound kind of demo-ish. Also, a lot of auto-tune.

How late am I? :(

Edit:
Wow, apparently I'm very very late.

edit2:
By auto-tune, I mean a-super-lot of it. But I see no harm in seeing what you would sound like on perfect pith.

[leeb rocks]

so late... :p:

I'm still suprised by how much I like MP's voice on the TBOT demo (autotune aside).

[Wulphy]

I just fully listened to Tenement Funster/Flick of the Wrist/Lily of the Valley, and I must say, I am absolutely blown away. That was one of the most beautiful things I have ever listened to. LaBrie's voice during Lily of the Valley is just... :o

[ehlert99]

I listened to The count of tuscany and loved it. I am just getting into dream theater and was wondering what albums I should look into to get myself started?

[lobster624]

I listened to The count of tuscany and loved it. I am just getting into dream theater and was wondering what albums I should look into to get myself started?

awake, scenes from a memory, and images and words are good places to start

[illuminatiano]

mike should name one of his sons "Junior" so that if he dies and his son takes his place in the band...everyone in dream theater would have a first name starting with a J....and that would be...pretty...cool.

[Alter-Bridge]

mike should name one of his sons "Junior" so that if he dies and his son takes his place in the band...everyone in dream theater would have a first name starting with a J....and that would be...pretty...cool.
God can't die.

[titsmcgee852]

The Zebra cover is amazing. I'm trying to work out the solo but I can't get the first lick and a chord in there.
This. Help pls.

[leeb rocks]

Zebra thread? :p:

[Xplozive]

Zebra thread? :p:
This man knows what he's talkign about :P haha

I just realised I stil need to buy a few DT cds to complete my studio collection :( suckss

[titsmcgee852]

Well, JP modified the solo, sooo...

[Neo Evil11]

awake, scenes from a memory, and images and words are good places to start

:no: I would recommend six degrees or the scenes. But you might want to give more information, pall. What do you like more the heavy stuff? the progressive stuff?

[cfrank]

How long are the bands playing in PN?

[lobster624]

:no: I would recommend six degrees or the scenes. But you might want to give more information, pall. What do you like more the heavy stuff? the progressive stuff?

jeez, it seems like the only thing we can agree on in this thread is that we like dream theater...

[Neo Evil11]

jeez, it seems like the only thing we can agree on in this thread is that we like dream theater...
:p: You can like awake and I&W :peace:
but when someone likes black clouds, I think he would rather go for six degrees then the old records. Seeing as six degrees sounds closer to it (for my ears) But everyone is different maybe he likes awake better.

[TeamSttg]

To throw a curve ball in the mix I'd suggest Falling Into Infinity.

I am 110% in love with most of the songs on that album.

[lobster624]

let's go ahead and recommend every album then...

FII, IMO, is not a good place to start. however, i do rank it in my top 5 and think it's an amazing album, just not a good place to start.

[Ignite]

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=r28LLqyXBKs

Wow.
They are all ****ing monsters.

[Deplorable]

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=r28LLqyXBKs

Wow.
They are all ****ing monsters.

That is so awesome

[xxdarrenxx]

This. Help pls.

First two licks; repeat 4 times each or so.

e|-------------------|-------------------|
B|-20-17-19-17----19-|-20-17-19-17----19-|
G|-------------17----|-------------18----|
D|-------------------|-------------------|
A|-------------------|-------------------|
E|-------------------|-------------------|

[lobster624]

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=r28LLqyXBKs

Wow.
They are all ****ing monsters.

:eek: i'm impressed

[titsmcgee852]

First two licks; repeat 4 times each or so.

e|-------------------|-------------------|
B|-20-17-19-17----19-|-20-17-19-17----19-|
G|-------------17----|-------------18----|
D|-------------------|-------------------|
A|-------------------|-------------------|
E|-------------------|-------------------|
Finally! Thank you. I got this originally:


Lick 1
e|-15-12-14-----------------------------|
B|--------------15-13-------------------|
G|--------------------------------------|
D|--------------------------------------|
A|--------------------------------------|
E|--------------------------------------|

Lick 2
e|-15-12-14-----------------------------|
B|--------------15-14-------------------|
G|--------------------------------------|
D|--------------------------------------|
A|--------------------------------------|
E|--------------------------------------|

And I need help with he little chord after this bit:


e|-15/---------------------------------------------|
B|-------------------------------------------------|
G|------------------11-12-11-12-11-12-14-12-11-----|
D|-----------------------------------------------14|
A|-------------------------------------------------|
E|-------------------------------------------------|

[1nSingularity]

I'm new and intrigued by this band. What should I listen to first?

[duncang]

I'm new and intrigued by this band. What should I listen to first?

When you say intrigued, do you mean by what you've heard or just what people have been saying? It's a tough one to call really but have a listen to:

Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu
The Dance Of Eternity
Take The Time
Another Day
As I Am
Octavarium (if you have time :p: )

That should give you a pretty well-rounded view of what they do.

[Neo Evil11]

When you say intrigued, do you mean by what you've heard or just what people have been saying? It's a tough one to call really but have a listen to:

Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu
The Dance Of Eternity
Take The Time
Another Day
As I Am
Octavarium (if you have time :p:)

That should give you a pretty well-rounded view of what they do.

and obviously six degrees of innter turbulence (the song) :haha:

[1nSingularity]

When you say intrigued, do you mean by what you've heard or just what people have been saying? It's a tough one to call really but have a listen to:

Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu
The Dance Of Eternity
Take The Time
Another Day
As I Am
Octavarium (if you have time :p: )

That should give you a pretty well-rounded view of what they do.The latter.

What album should I get first?

[Alter-Bridge]

You have no idea how complicated that question is in this thread.

In my opinion, Images and Words is a great place to start.

[Deplorable]

I started with Train of Thought and Metropolis, those got me right into DT, but I guess it'd be different for everyone.

[1nSingularity]

I'm interested in Scenes from a Memory. Is that good?

[Deplorable]

I'm interested in Scenes from a Memory. Is that good?

Very much so, one of their finest IMO.

[Neo Evil11]

normal settimes just don't suit Dream Theater :(

[leeb rocks]

Agreed but there's no way they could keep up the evening with shows. JR thought MP was crazy for ever even thinking of the ideas and was hugely relieved when they were dropped.

In other news go to 0:28 in to get the manliest 'yeah' ever (from yours truly of course).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNeImS5mjGM&feature=related

Listening to the videos from the concert JLB was on smoking form at Glasgow. Makes me even more upset a bootleg of the show has yet to surface.

[b101]

Just got the new Transatlantic album! :D

One 77 minute song...it'll be a long night lol

[leeb rocks]

Just got the new Transatlantic album! :D

One 77 minute song...it'll be a long night lol

SHIT! Is it out already?

[b101]

it's been chucked on the net, seeing as I've already pre-ordered it I have no guilt in listening to it a little early. Sounding veeeery good so far though :)

Edit: Oh my god... the last track. Absolutely beautiful

*puts track one on again*

[leeb rocks]

Is the only available version the one with the demo voiceovers? If so I think I'll wait for a proper leak.

[b101]

Is the only available version the one with the demo voiceovers? If so I think I'll wait for a proper leak.

sounds very much like the full version to me. I don't think it's quite on the level of Bridge Across Forever, but it's so good to hear new material from them

[leeb rocks]

Don't suppose you could point me towards it then?

[Ignite]

Anyone want to send me the FII demos? :D

I can't find them anywhere. I heard they were better than the album too.

[b101]

leeb_rocks: you have mail ;)

Ignite, never heard any of them either mate. Might have to track them down

[lobster624]

leeb_rocks: you have mail ;)

Ignite, never heard any of them either mate. Might have to track them down

can i have mail?

[leeb rocks]

the FII demos should be relatively easy to track down on most torrent sites. Well worth it as well. Very interesting listen and in some ways better than the final album.

[b101]

can i have mail?


You can, and do :)

[lobster624]

You can, and do :)

:cheers:

thanks a lot brah

[mastermetal777]

My 3 faves of what ive heard are Pull Me Under, As I Am and Fatal Tradgedy


those are good songs. i love all 3 of them. my faves though are Panic Attack, This Dying Soul, and Honor thy Father.

[leeb rocks]

3 favourite DT songs! God that's hard.

1.A Change Of Seasons
2.Octavarium
3.The Count Of Tuscany

[1nSingularity]

Yeah, Fatal tragedy is truly awesome.

Unfortunately, I've only heard 4 songs from Scenes from a Memory on YouTube, because I haven't had the opportunity to buy the album. :sad:

[b101]

Top 10 changes constantly, but my top 3 never changes :D

1. Learning to Live
2. Lines In The Sand
3. Surrounded

[lobster624]

choosing my 3 favorite songs is really hard... but i'll give it a try.

1. A Change of Season
2. Learning to Live
3. Erotomania

[Shredx]

Under a glass moon
A nightmare to remember
another day

[InTheFlesh!]

ACoS
Blind Faith
Trial of Tears/Goodnight Kiss/Ministry of Lost Souls

[leeb rocks]

WHAAAAAAT?!

TMOLS is right at the very bottom of my list of DT songs. Awful tune with almost no redeeming features.

[TeamSttg]

For me it would be and this changes on my my mood a bit 2 and 3 that is.

1. Lines in the Sand
2. The Count Of Tuscany
3. The Dark Eternal Night

I love all 3 songs so much that my flat mates are in constant fear of hearing them cranked which I do about 2-3 times a day.

[Ignite]

Screw that. I could not pick 3 favorites. My immense love for DT's songs goes beyond just 3 favorites. I do think that my favorite of all time is Octavarium.

MAYBE I could do a top 5.

1. Octavarium
2. Metropolis Pt 1
3. In the Presence of Enemies
4. Finally Free
5. The Glass Prison

That list is barely accurate though. I wanted to fit so many other on there like Fatal Tragedy, TMOLS, Another Day, Pretty much all of SFAM and SC.


On another note, what is everyone favorite 12step/AA song?
Mine's The Root of All Evil.

[ChaosMaker911]

On another note, what is everyone favorite 12step/AA song?
Mine's The Root of All Evil.

but you rank the glass prison at #5, and root of all evil isnt on the list?

my top 3 would be

1. A Change of Seasons
2. Learning to live
3. Metropolis: part 1

but ranking my top 3 dt songs is such a useless task, since there are so many others that i like just as much as each of those songs

[lobster624]

but you rank the glass prison at #5, and root of all evil isnt on the list?

my top 3 would be

1. A Change of Seasons
2. Learning to live
3. Metropolis: part 1

but ranking my top 3 dt songs is such a useless task, since there are so many others that i like just as much as each of those songs

i almost put metropolis as my #3 which would have given us the same list! :eek:

good taste!

[Alter-Bridge]

Screw that. I could not pick 3 favorites. My immense love for DT's songs goes beyond just 3 favorites. I do think that my favorite of all time is Octavarium.

On another note, what is everyone favorite 12step/AA song?
Mine's The Root of All Evil.
This Dying Soul for me.

[Xplozive]

This Dying Soul for me.
Glass Prison for me, definately.

[leeb rocks]

Easily the Glass Prison. Any other answer is just wrong.

[Xplozive]

Easily the Glass Prison. Any other answer is just wrong.
It's what started it and pretty much ended it, amazing shit!!! Hope they play a fair chunk if not all of the 12 step suite in Aus. I will cream my pants if they do.

[deathsquirrel]

1. Lines in the Sand
2. Panic Attack
3. Learning to Live

Favourite 12-Step song would be The Glass Prison for me as well.

[webbtje]

Everyone not saying Root of All Evil is clearly wrong.

[lobster624]

Easily the Glass Prison. Any other answer is just wrong.

this

[leeb rocks]

Everyone not saying Root of All Evil is clearly wrong.

If this is wrong then I don't want to be right. :p:

[Ignite]

but you rank the glass prison at #5, and root of all evil isnt on the list?
You see? Making a favorite DT song list is too hard from me. :p: I think I had forgotten that The Glass Prison was the first song in the series for some reason. So, I do like TGP a bit more than The Root of All Evil, therefor I guess TGP is my favorite song in the series.

[Blayney]

12 Step Favourite

The Glass Prison.

Closely followed by This Dying Soul

Then The Shattered Fortress.

[LucasGtrGod]

My favourite 12 Step song would have to be Repentence.

[Hadi The Ghost]

My favourite 12 Step song would have to be Repentence.

The solo in that is beautifully haunting.
Petrucci you are our God. :down:

[Butt Rayge]

12 Step Favourite

The Glass Prison.

Closely followed by This Dying Soul

Then The Shattered Fortress.
And then Root of all Evil

And finally, Repentance.

[Deplorable]

Dammit all the 12 step suite songs are awesome, Rayge's list is pretty much mine though

[1nSingularity]

Listen to Home

What's the twangy stringed instrument they use at the start & at the end (and occasionally throughout the song)?

Because I want one (they sound awesome)

[duncang]

That's a sitar patch for Jordan's keyboard.

But yeah, a sitar.

[Butt Rayge]

A Nightmare to Remember is te most metal thing Dream Theater have done.

Discuss.

[hauntu4ever]

eh, not really. It's mostly all metal to me, just different types. ANTR is definitely among the heavier ones, though.

[1nSingularity]

Images and Words, or Awake? (which one is better)

[Slaytanic1993]

Awake, easily.

Every song is awesome, whereas I&W has duds all over the album.

[TeamSttg]

A Nightmare to Remember is te most metal thing Dream Theater have done.

Discuss.

I am with the understanding that The Dark Eternal Night takes your title friend.

[1nSingularity]

Awake, easily.

Every song is awesome, whereas I&W has duds all over the album.I've heard Awake is similar to Scenes from a Memory, which I already have, and I want something different.

[LucasGtrGod]

Awake, easily.

Every song is awesome, whereas I&W has duds all over the album.

Dude, you have it all backwards. :p:

Awake has about three great songs, a few good ones and some downright boring ones. Whereas Images and Words has about 5 great ones and a few okay ones.

That's a sitar patch for Jordan's keyboard.

But yeah, a sitar.

I really hate the sound of the sitar. In fact I'm not really a fan of anything Indian.

Does that make me racist? :(

[Butt Rayge]

1. Dude, you have it all backwards. :p:

Awake has about three great songs, a few good ones and some downright boring ones. Whereas Images and Words has about 5 great ones and a few okay ones.





2. Does that make me racist? :(
1. Agreed
2. Yes (Probably not)

[LucasGtrGod]

2. Yes

:(
time to go lynch myself.

[Deplorable]

Awake is better than Images IMO, though its close I just think Awake is more consistent.

[1nSingularity]

Awake is better than Images IMO, though its close I just think Awake is more consistent.How are they different?

[LucasGtrGod]

How are they different?

Awake is a bit heavier...pretty much it.

[Butt Rayge]

:(
time to go lynch myself.
Ha.

As much as I hate racism, I don't really mind if anyone finds no appeal in a certain race. It's when people hate other races I get worked up. If you're simply not interested, that can't be helped, but when people start to hate based solely on stereotypes and colour, then it becomes a problem.

Anyway, we may aswell continue this:

A Nightmare to Remember is te most metal thing Dream Theater have done.

Discuss.

hauntu4ever, Yes a majority of it is metal, but what I was suggesting was that ANTR was their 'heaviest' song.

Team sttg, I have considered your suggestion and I still think ANTR is heavier. Also, SC was a crap album and even though TDEN was one of the better songs, it still wasn't that good.

[Deplorable]

Hmmmmm... I think As I Am is DT's most metal song.

[Butt Rayge]

That whole album is pretty heavy, and is definitely one of my favourites (probably partly due to it being the first one I obtained it full)

Still I think ANTR takes the cake, although The Glass Prison, most of ToT come close.

Although I generally think arguing over whats heavier is dumb (since it is entirely subjective, and there isn't really anything to measure the 'heaviness' with [there aren't any scales olololol]) I think a freindly discussion and some comparisons are alright.

[LucasGtrGod]

Ha.

As much as I hate racism, I don't really mind if anyone finds no appeal in a certain race. It's when people hate other races I get worked up. If you're simply not interested, that can't be helped, but when people start to hate based solely on stereotypes and colour, then it becomes a problem.


I agree with that completely.

[Hadi The Ghost]

Awake, easily.

Every song is awesome, whereas I&W has duds all over the album.


???

Pull Me Under = win
Another Day = saxaphone win
Take The Time = win
Surrounded = win
Metropolis = big win
Under A Glass Moon = win
Wait For Sleep = tis ok
Learning To Live = HUGE win

Images and Words is the best damn album they ever made

[lobster624]

???

Pull Me Under = win
Another Day = saxaphone win
Take The Time = win
Surrounded = win
Metropolis = big win
Under A Glass Moon = win
Wait For Sleep = tis ok
Learning To Live = HUGE win

Images and Words is the best damn album they ever made

my turn.

6:00 = Win
Caught in a Web = Win
Innocence Faded = Win^2
A Mind Beside Itself: I. Erotomania = SUPREME WIN
A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices = Whole Lotta Win
A Mind Beside Itself: III. The Silent Man = Win
The Mirror = Winnosaraus Rex
Lie = SUPREME WIN
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream = Win
Scarred = Win
Space-Dye Vest = Win

i think it's obvious who wins here. Awake = best DT album

[Butt Rayge]

6:00 is terrible.
Caught in a Web is ok
Innocence Faded is 'win'
A Mind Beside Itself is 'win'
The Mirror is not quite 'win'
Lie is 'win'
The rest are good.

[Xplozive]

I realise I always say Awake is my favourite album but I really think I&W is so much better. It takes the cake I reckon.

[TeamSttg]

I'm not a fan of the first 3 songs from Awake but the rest blows me away.

And in I&W I think the only song I don't like too much is Another Day.

But this is coming from me, one of the only people who likes most of the songs on FII.

[Condiment]

Awake is ....ehhhhh. I like the different way in which they did Falling into Infinity (except you not me) but I find it hard to toss between I & W (excluding another day) and Tain of Thought (excluding honor thy father and vacant)

[InTheFlesh!]

How could you not enjoy Vacant? Madness!

[Alter-Bridge]

Awake is bloody amazing, so is Vacant you treacherous swine!

[lobster624]

^fo' sho

[Alter-Bridge]

Didn't the Phillies lose the world series? :p:

[Magero]

You know what would be awesome?
A new John Petrucci solo album.

[T.s.e]

A new John Petrucci solo album.
This, this, this.

[Alter-Bridge]

You know what would be awesome?
A new John Petrucci solo album.
Fear not, I've already written half of it. :p:

Actually I'd like another Evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Ruddess.

[Hadi The Ghost]

my turn.

6:00 = Win
Caught in a Web = Win
Innocence Faded = Win^2
A Mind Beside Itself: I. Erotomania = SUPREME WIN
A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices = Whole Lotta Win
A Mind Beside Itself: III. The Silent Man = Win
The Mirror = Winnosaraus Rex
Lie = SUPREME WIN
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream = Win
Scarred = Win
Space-Dye Vest = Win

i think it's obvious who wins here. Awake = best DT album


I'm not denying Awake isn't win.. it just so happens to be my second favourite album, actually. It just doesn't happen to be a flawless album, which I&W pretty much is. And +2 to the new Petrucci album comment

[T.s.e]

I'm not denying Awake isn't win.. it just so happens to be my second favourite album, actually. It just doesn't happen to be a flawless album, which I&W pretty much is
In my opinion, Awake is as good as flawless as well, I just get tired of most of the songs. I&W... I can listen through that album several times in a row. Not that I don't enjoy Awake's heavier stuff, I absolutely do. But I&W generally appeals to me more.

[lobster624]

Didn't the Phillies lose the world series? :p:

read my sig. i'm a yankees fan... lost a bet with a mod

[Condiment]

Images and words is, by far, the best....I just disagree with Labrie's vocals on awake....except erotomania, cos there aren't any

[Butt Rayge]

Am I the only one who can't stand 6:00?

[leeb rocks]

I really hope so.

[Magero]

Fear not, I've already written half of it. :p:

Actually I'd like another Evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Ruddess.
Get stuffed. :p:
That album was so boring. Needs drums...and bass...and... I dunno, structure?

[Butt Rayge]

I really hope so.
I just really don't like '6 o clock on a christmas morning' For some reason it annoys the piss outta me.

The rest of the song is good. Just that bit ruins it for me. It's so little, but it gets to me so much.

[lobster624]

Get stuffed. :p:
That album was so boring. Needs drums...and bass...and... I dunno, structure?

fer sure. some of the tracks are cool, but they are all lacking, imo.

^the intro vocals to 6:00 annoy me as well, but i can look past them

[T.s.e]

^the intro vocals to 6:00 annoy me as well, but i can look past them
I never really understood what's the point of the "I know all about the honor of God, Mary Jane" part.

But i guess DT has their reasons :shrug:

[leeb rocks]

Kevin Moore loved/loves his obscure samples.

Which is one of the things that is inarguably beter about the KM era than everything after. The samples used when he was a part of the band fit so well rather than the forced feeling I get from some later atempts (most noticable offender is the sex in Home).

[lobster624]

dude, that part gets me off. i dunno what you're talking about...

:p:

[Alter-Bridge]

Get stuffed. :p:
That album was so boring. Needs drums...and bass...and... I dunno, structure?
Get an attention span. :haha:

[Magero]

Learn what decent music is. :p:

[leeb rocks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6msQ_y213JU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDUAJQIbuwo

[lobster624]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6msQ_y213JU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDUAJQIbuwo

:eek:

i want to be part of that dance party!

[Alter-Bridge]

Am I the only one who can't stand 6:00?
I only know of one other person who didn't like 6:00, and an Evening With John Petrucci and Jordan Ruddess, for that matter!

http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/2158911/2159086/2159087/070221_CL_HitlerEX.jpg

[Magero]

I quite like 6:00.
<_<

[LucasGtrGod]

Kevin Moore loved/loves his obscure samples.

Which is one of the things that is inarguably beter about the KM era than everything after. The samples used when he was a part of the band fit so well rather than the forced feeling I get from some later atempts (most noticable offender is the sex in Home).

Dude, the sex gets me hard every time...Well it would if I weren't already hard from the music.

[InTheFlesh!]

I never really understood what's the point of the "I know all about the honor of God, Mary Jane" part.

But i guess DT has their reasons :shrug:
I know it comes from this (http://books.google.ca/books?id=VjcoLqAToaQC&pg=PA30&lpg=PA30&dq=Well,+isn%27t+it+for+the+honor+of+God,+Aunt+Kate%3F%22+%22I+know+all+about+the+honor+of+God,+Mary+Jane.&source=bl&ots=o2Cea7EAtK&sig=wIFtKS2eGpfnmrI-muzP9apMAyk&hl=en&ei=rjT4SpKwLJSENrrV9OgF&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Well%2C%20isn%27t%20it%20for%20the%20honor%20of%20God%2C%20Aunt%20Kate%3F%22%20%22I%20know%20all%20about%20the%20honor%20of%20God%2C%20Mary%20Jane.&f=false) but I'm not sure why. Songmeanings (http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/1048/) has a discussion on it, but nobody really contributes anything solid. Anyone here have a good idea as to what the song means?

[DaFjory]

Hate for 6:00? Well now I've heard everything.

That song, along with the rest of Awake, was the very first song that made me realise "Whoa... this is Dream Theater? Where the hell have I been all this time!" - bearing in mind that 3 years prior I had only heard The Way It Used To Be, Don't Look Past Me and Home; none of which are exactly the best introduction to DT!

So it's still a firm favourite of mine (easily top 5), but I will agree that the intro samples are irritating. I don't care about the movies, the weird humour of Moore, or whatever else 'interesting' - they're annoying as hell. That woman who says the "Mary Jane" line should be smacked in the face.

[leeb rocks]

I had only heard The Way It Used To Be, Don't Look Past Me and Home; none of which are exactly the best introduction to DT!



Once again I feel like I'm the only one in the thread not taking crazy pills. Home is one of their best tracks and possibly petrucci's overall best (so many excellent riffs and that solo). It also has JR's best DT keyboard solo by a good way.

Minus the sex noises it's a perfect song.

[DaFjory]

Once again I feel like I'm the only one in the thread not taking crazy pills. Home is one of their best tracks and possibly petrucci's overall best (so many excellent riffs and that solo). It also has JR's best DT keyboard solo by a good way.

Minus the sex noises it's a perfect song.

I don't know about perfect, but yes it's certainly a classic. I won't disagree with anything there.

But it's simply not a good introduction to DT, I find. Too long, too many changes, some silly stuff going on, not especially catchy, and too out there. The usual Pull Me Unders or even 6:00 and ANTR are far better ways to introduce new ears to the band. I wouldn't Dream of playing Home to a first-timer.

[lobster624]

who here doesn't like home?????

[Xplozive]

who here doesn't like home?????
I love it great main riff and the lead guitar is awesome. But I have my spouts of listening to it, matter of fact haven't listened to it for a while though.

[lobster624]

that means you haven't listened to SFAM in a while... DO YOUR HOMEWORK

[Xplozive]

that means you haven't listened to SFAM in a while... DO YOUR HOMEWORK
Haha i've listened to it, it's in my car atm actually. Sometimes I just don't have enough time to listen to the whole thing haha

[Deplorable]

Haha i've listened to it, it's in my car atm actually. Sometimes I just don't have enough time to listen to the whole thing haha

You've gotta make time :p:

anyway, i'm hoping for Home in Sydney (or Dance of Eternity) as they didn't play them in Sydney last time, and they played a fair bit of Metropolis.

[sfaune92]

I've never liked the solo on "Another Day", kinda ruins the song.
I like some of DT's stuff unless it gets to heavy. My fav. has to Learning To Live or Finally Free or something...

[beadhangingOne]

You know what would be awesome?
A new John Petrucci solo album.

Hopefully the production is good. I never liked the production on Suspended Animation, but I love the songs.

[Xplozive]

You've gotta make time :p:

anyway, i'm hoping for Home in Sydney (or Dance of Eternity) as they didn't play them in Sydney last time, and they played a fair bit of Metropolis.
Yea I know :p I hope they play something off Six Degrees, nothing last time!

[Deplorable]

Crossing my fingers for The Glass Prison, really hope they play it :D

[T.s.e]

Am I the only one who finds the intro noise on Home really annoying?

[awesomeo4000]

Does anyone have any idea what they played in Brisbane last time they came? I'm curious, and want to get an idea of what songs they won't be playing this time around.

[leeb rocks]

1. 2008: An Ant Odyssey (intro video)
2. Also sprach Zarathustra
3. Constant Motion
4. Panic Attack
5. Surrounded ‘07
6. The Dark Eternal Night
7. Forsaken
8. I Walk Beside You
9. As I Am
~~~intermission~~~
10. Overture 1928
11. Strange Deja Vu
12. Through My Words
13. Fatal Tragedy
14. Erotomania
15. Voices
16. The Spirit Carries On
17. Pull Me Under/
18. Metropolis pt.1
~~~encore~~~
19. Medley:
20. I Trial of Tears
21. II Finally Free
22. III Learning to Live
23. IV In the Name of God
24. V Octavarium

[Magero]

Just because they played a song here, doesn't mean they won't. Just means you won't have the exact same set list.

PTC: That set list had like 3 songs that got mixed around on the entire Australian tour. Most of it stayed the same.

[DaFjory]

Hopefully the production is good. I never liked the production on Suspended Animation, but I love the songs.

Dreadful, awful production...

1. No delay. Everything with guitar should have oodles of delay and reverb, always.
2. Clipped and compressed to holy hell, and thus headache-inducing to listen to.


But then, since 'Trucci was using a lot of gorgeous delay on the BC&SL solos, I can keep my hopes up.

[lobster624]

1. 2008: An Ant Odyssey (intro video)
2. Also sprach Zarathustra
3. Constant Motion
4. Panic Attack
5. Surrounded ‘07
6. The Dark Eternal Night
7. Forsaken
8. I Walk Beside You
9. As I Am
~~~intermission~~~
10. Overture 1928
11. Strange Deja Vu
12. Through My Words
13. Fatal Tragedy
14. Erotomania
15. Voices
16. The Spirit Carries On
17. Pull Me Under/
18. Metropolis pt.1
~~~encore~~~
19. Medley:
20. I Trial of Tears
21. II Finally Free
22. III Learning to Live
23. IV In the Name of God
24. V Octavarium

was that an evening with? seems long... and that second half is amazing

[Magero]

Was indeed an evening with.
Amazing show.

[1nSingularity]

Am I the only one who finds the intro noise on Home really annoying?Nope :D I think it's awesome.

However, I do wish I could get a copy of the whole song without the orgasm sound effects in the interlude

[Alter-Bridge]

Dreadful, awful production...

1. No delay. Everything with guitar should have oodles of delay and reverb, always.
2. Clipped and compressed to holy hell, and thus headache-inducing to listen to.


But then, since 'Trucci was using a lot of gorgeous delay on the BC&SL solos, I can keep my hopes up.
The delay on Awake is orgasm worthy.

[lobster624]

The everything on Awake is orgasm worthy.

much better

[Alter-Bridge]

Whoops, my mistake. That's exactly what I meant.

[Xplozive]

I&W owns all :D

[Butt Rayge]

I just realised how much Scenes From A Memory rules.

Way better than Awake.

EDIT: Perhaps I should explain what I meant when I said I couldn't stand 6:00.

I exaggerated quite fiercely.

What I really meant by that was: 'the sample at the start of 6:00 takes away from an otherwise great song.

[Xplozive]

I just realised how much Scenes From A Memory rules.

Way better than Awake.

EDIT: Perhaps I should explain what I meant when I said I couldn't stand 6:00.

I exaggerated quite fiercely.

What I really meant by that was: 'the sample at the start of 6:00 takes away from an otherwise great song.
I totally agree!!

[Butt Rayge]

:cheers:

How can I feel abandoned even when the world surrounds me
How can I bite the hand that feeds the strangers all around me
How can I know so many
Never really knowing anyone

If I seem superhuman
I have been
Misunderstood

Actually, I really like this verse

Playing a lion being led to a cage
I turn from surreal to seclusion
From love to disdain
From belief to delusion
From a thief to a beggar
From a god to 'God save me'

[Magero]

Misunderstood + Disappear = 6DOIT winning at everything.

[leeb rocks]

SDOIT is the best DT album no doubt.

FUCK YEAH, NEW INSTRUMENTAL!!!

http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2443312.aspx

Touring/Recording gap also allows JP to posibly get that rumoured second solo album down.

[DaFjory]

Man, I'm still obsessed with the clean breakdown of ANTR. I need a 7-string so I can play it properly without octaving things.

[Butt Rayge]

Misunderstood + Disappear = 6DOIT winning at everything.
Are you trying to suggest that If the only songs on 6DOIT were those 2, it would still win? Because I have four other songs that would like a word with you... One of them is so big you could call it 8 songs.

That whole album is fucking amazing. I'd be hard pressed to pick a favourite. Although it probably wouldn't be Blind Faith, as much as I like it.

[lobster624]

SDOIT is the best DT album no doubt.

FUCK YEAH, NEW INSTRUMENTAL!!!

http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2443312.aspx

Touring/Recording gap also allows JP to posibly get that rumoured second solo album down.

i would love to see that second JP solo album in the near future. also, i am seeing transatlantic NO MATTER WHAT

[Xplozive]

Holy shit ay, didn't expect them to be writing and recording an instrumental for gods of war. I hope it's really good and doesn't seem forced.

[Alter-Bridge]

The instrumental sounds cool, except I won't be getting that game.

Also, the plans he didn't mention should be another Yellow Matter Custard album!

[Xplozive]

The instrumental sounds cool, except I won't be getting that game.

Also, the plans he didn't mention should be another Yellow Matter Custard album!
Yea I won't be getting the game either, Not really a gamer, don't mind playing every now and then..

That would be fantastic Alter-Bridge, beatles ftw.

[Magero]

So the BC&SL tour ends after under a year?
Smooth.
:haha

[Alter-Bridge]

Yea I won't be getting the game either, Not really a gamer, don't mind playing every now and then..

That would be fantastic Alter-Bridge, beatles ftw.
I've been listening to nothing but The Beatles and Muse for the last week or so. :haha:

[Xplozive]

I've been listening to nothing but The Beatles and Muse for the last week or so. :haha:
Or atleast trying to listen to the Beatles haha

[leeb rocks]

So the BC&SL tour ends after under a year?
Smooth.
:haha

Financial issues and such I imagine. Not a good time to be touring.

So in a perfect world in this brief gap of DT album/tour we woud get:
JP solo album
Transatlantic tour
JLB solo album
JR solo album
Akerfeldt/Wilson/Portnoy project
Awesome God of War (singular, take note MP :p: ) instrumental
The entire works of Shakespeare narrated entirely by John Myung

[InTheFlesh!]

Financial issues and such I imagine. Not a good time to be touring.

So in a perfect world in this brief gap of DT album/tour we woud get:
JP solo album
Transatlantic tour
JLB solo album
JR solo album
Akerfeldt/Wilson/Portnoy project
Awesome God of War (singular, take note MP :p: ) instrumental
The entire works of Shakespeare narrated entirely by John Myung
Forget Shakespeare, we want Platypus!

[lobster624]

Financial issues and such I imagine. Not a good time to be touring.

So in a perfect world in this brief gap of DT album/tour we woud get:
JP solo album
Transatlantic tour
JLB solo album
JR solo album
Akerfeldt/Wilson/Portnoy project
Awesome God of War (singular, take note MP :p: ) instrumental
The entire works of Shakespeare narrated entirely by John Myung

forget albums and tours, this is what i want!

[beadhangingOne]

...John Myung can talk?

[leeb rocks]

This is what I love about DT. Even after listening to their stuff thousands of times I'm still finding new stuff. I'd never heard JR's awesome mellotron patches in the pre-chorus of misunderstood. The guy is so good.

[T.s.e]

...John Myung can talk?
Watch his bass instructional videos on YouTube. They're so amusing :p:

"Uh, there's a bass solo in a song called Metropolis... where I play a bass solo..."

[Xplozive]

Watch his bass instructional videos on YouTube. They're so amusing :p:

"Uh, there's a bass solo in a song called Metropolis... where I play a bass solo..."
Haha tht part cracks me ip everytime

[Alter-Bridge]

Or atleast trying to listen to the Beatles haha
God dammit! :haha:

[lobster624]

a new yellow matter custard album would give me a boner

[Magero]

...John Myung can talk?
I told him that he was my favourite bassist ever and he said "Thanks man, that means a lot to me."
........





















































http://i34.tinypic.com/2dvoe2p.jpg

[hugh20]

I told him that he was my favourite bassist ever and he said "Thanks man, that means a lot to me."
........


http://i34.tinypic.com/2dvoe2p.jpg
:haha: I bet he went to slept happy that night.

[Rikki DeMartini]

*arrives fashionably late to the party*

Listening to the new album.
My gawd. This is what SC should have been.

[Alter-Bridge]

I suppose you're listening to Awake then. :p:

[Magero]

I suppose you're listening to 6DOIT then. :p:
I would say so.

[leeb rocks]

Holy crap this is amazing :haha

The Handy Dandy Rob Webster Monosyllabic Guide to Dream Theater Lyrics

1. Pull Me Under: Dying.
2. Another Day: Not dying.
3. Take the Time: Doing things.
4. Surrounded: God knows.
5. Metropolis: Myths involving lakes of fire.
6. Under a Glass Moon: I don't think even John Petrucci knows what this is about.
7. Wait for Sleep: Almost definitely about bedtime.
8. Learning to Live: AIDS.

9. 6:00: Doing things quickly.
10. Caught in a Web: Lies.
11. Innocence Faded: Jaded... trinities, and... um... fossils.
12. Erotomania: Shaggin'.
13. Voices: Shaggin' god.
14. The Silent Man: God.
15. The Mirror: Drinking.
16. Lie: Lies.
17. Lifting Shadows off a Dream: Relationships.
18. Scarred: Relationships.
19. Space-dye Vest: Sucking at relationships.

20. New Millennium: Changing things.
21. You Not Me: Not being a bastard.
22. Peruvian Skies: Child abuse.
23. Hollow Years: Er, suicide or self-realisation or something. I'd like to think it's the latter.
24. Burning My Soul: Similar to You Not Me, but with more apes.
25. Hell's Kitchen: Gordon Ramsay.
26. Lines on the Sand: Jeebus.
27. Take Away My Pain: Dying.
28. Just Let Me Breathe: The media being a bastard.
29. Anna Lee: Child abuse.
30. Trial of Tears: Almost definitely Jeebus again.

31. Regression: Hypnosis.
32. Overture 1928: Overtures.
33. Strange Deja-Vu: Visions of a girl in the night. (Some guys get all the luck.)
34. Through My Words: Being connected to a girl in the night. (Oo-err.)
35. Fatal Tragedy: Some old dude harping on about murders.
36. Beyond This Life: Getting killed by armed bastards.
37. Through Her Eyes: Skull****ing.
38. Home: Shaggin'.
39. The Dance of Eternity: Dancin'. (Which I can only assume is a metaphor for shaggin'.)
40. One Last Time: Dying.
41. The Spirit Carries On: Not being too bothered about dying.
42. Finally Free: It was actually the other guy.

43. The Glass Prison: Drinking, partying, all that fun stuff.
44. Blind Faith: Blind faith.
45. Misunderstood: Isolation. Possibly based on Jeebus.
46. The Great Debate: Stem-cell research.
47. Disappear: James LaBrie essentially looked at a young couple and thought "What would happen if I killed one of them died?
48. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: Six degrees of mental illnesses.

49. As I Am: Not being a bastard.
50. This Dying Soul: The Glass Prison.
51. Endless Sacrifice: Not seeing your family while on tour. Feat. some badass augmented sweeps.
52. Honor Thy Father: My stepdad's a bastard.
53. Vacant: Comatose kids.
54. Stream of Consciousness: Comatose kids hallucinating.
55. In the Name of God: Religious cults.

56. The Root of All Evil: This Dying Soul.
57. The Answer Lies Within: Answering things. (JP wrote it for his kids, because they never bloody well pick up the phone.)
58. These Walls: Walls.
59. I Walk Beside You: Walking.
60. Panic Attack: Panic attacks.
61. Never Enough: Whiny fans. Stick around and you may get to know a few.
62. Sacrificed Sons: 9/11.
63. Octavarium: People like him, Robin Williams films, music, the other songs on the album, and cycles.

64. In the Presence of Enemies: Killing zombies.
65. Forsaken: Vampires.
66. Constant Motion: OCD.
67. The Dark Eternal Night: A pharaoh.
68. Repentance: The Root of All Evil.
69. Prophets of War: Profiting from war.
70. The Ministry of Lost Souls: Drowning.

71. A Nightmare to Remember: A car crash to remember.
72. A Rite of Passage: Being refused entry to the freemasons.
73. Wither: Not knowing what to write about.
74. The Shattered Fortress: The Glass Prison, This Dying Soul, The Root of All Evil and Repentance.
75. The Best of Times: Howard Portnoy's life.
76. The Count of Tuscany: A harmless count.



NON ALBUM TRACKS
A Change of Seasons: Mike Portnoy's mum dying.
To Live Forever: Life.
Don't Look Past Me: Being on fire.
Eve: An eve.
Raise the Knife: People leaving.
Cover My Eyes: Er, self-harm? Let's just say Jeebus or child abuse, seems to be the theme of FII.
Speak to Me: Openness.
The Way it Used to Be: The way it used to be.
Where are You Now?: Some stubborn dude/dudette who appears to have left John Petrucci on less-than-pleasant terms.

[lobster624]

35. Fatal Tragedy: Some old dude harping on about murders.

this made me lol

[InTheFlesh!]

That list was frustrating. It had some good lines and then entire albums of lame.

[Butt Rayge]

25. Hell's Kitchen: Gordon Ramsay.
58. These Walls: Walls.
59. I Walk Beside You: Walking.
These ones were mildly amusing.

Didn't really like any of the others.

[Magero]

Holy crap this is amazing :haha

The Handy Dandy Rob Webster Monosyllabic Guide to Dream Theater Lyrics

1. Pull Me Under: Dying.
2. Another Day: Not dying.
3. Take the Time: Doing things.
16. Lie: Lies.
19. Space-dye Vest: Sucking at relationships.
24. Burning My Soul: Similar to You Not Me, but with more apes.
37. Through Her Eyes: Skull****ing.
42. Finally Free: It was actually the other guy.
58. These Walls: Walls.
59. I Walk Beside You: Walking.
60. Panic Attack: Panic attacks.

On these, I absolutely lost it.

[Alter-Bridge]

Has anyone noticed on Word 2007 there's a font called "Petrucci?" and guess what happens when you type? MUSICAL SYMBOLS! I SHAT SO MANY BRICKS!

[Butt Rayge]

Yeah, I saw that.

I didn't immediately think 'Hey, this is so interesting I'll tell the internet,' though

[lobster624]

i don't have a font called petrucci. :confused:

[T.s.e]

Neither do I. But I want one :(

[leeb rocks]

How wierd? Just today I was planning on bringing it up that the guy who first printed sheet music was called Petrucci.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottaviano_Petrucci

Odd that you bring it up the same day.

[deathsquirrel]

Holy crap this is amazing :haha

The Handy Dandy Rob Webster Monosyllabic Guide to Dream Theater Lyrics

6. Under a Glass Moon: I don't think even John Petrucci knows what this is about.
24. Burning My Soul: Similar to You Not Me, but with more apes.
25. Hell's Kitchen: Gordon Ramsay.
36. Beyond This Life: Getting killed by armed bastards.
47. Disappear: James LaBrie essentially looked at a young couple and thought "What would happen if I killed one of them died?
My favourites. I love the Life on Mars reference on Beyond This Life.

Has anyone here checked out the new official bootlegs? (http://www.ytsejamrecords.com/) I'd like to listen to them, but I have no money to buy them and there don't seem to be any reliable downloads yet. They are:
- The Making of FII
- TOT Instrumental Demos
- Uncovered 2003-05
- Santiago, Chile, 12/6/05 [DVD]

Apologies if they've already been discussed.

[leeb rocks]

Got all of them but the Chile DVD. Was gutted they didn;t sell it at the prog nation show (ystejam is a pain in the ass often).

FII demos are real interesting and much, much better than the SFAM one. Some nice goofing around from DS included here and there.

TOT instrumental demos are basically a rough around the edge TOT, that's instrumental. Still good to listen to and the keyboard is much more prominent than in the final album.

Uncovered hasn't really got much listening from me (probably as I'm not a huge fan of any of the bands) but the yes cover is brilliant.

[lobster624]

^are you mixing up the FII demos and the making of FII?

Demos:
http://www.ytsejamrecords.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=26&idcategory=6

The Making of:
http://www.ytsejamrecords.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=33&idcategory=5

[leeb rocks]

Shit I did mix up the names but I was referring to the making of there.

The demos are essential as far as I'm concerned.

[lobster624]

ah, gotcha. i agree the demos are essential if you are a "true" fan. they are sweet, to say the least

[Alter-Bridge]

I don't have the demos. :sad:

[leeb rocks]

what a loser...







:hug:

[Xplozive]

I don't have the demos. :sad:
I've got them apart from one song :@

[Alter-Bridge]

I've got them apart from one song :@
I'll just stick with my Beatles. Oh wait, I have to tell you guys that my computer recently stopped working, for no reason.

[leeb rocks]

Your computer would never have stopped working if Kevin Moore was still in the band.

Damnit Rudess!

New Wither video is pretty cool!

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/The-World-Premiere-Of-Dream-Theaters-Wither-20708.aspx

[Magero]

Oh wait, I have to tell you guys that my computer recently stopped working, for no reason.
Could have fooled me.

[westdyolf]

what songs by dream theater are similar to stream of consciousness, thats my favorite song right now

[leeb rocks]

Erotomania is the most similar that comes to mind.

Their other instrumentals aren't really in the same style as SoC but they are worth checking o