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Godly Moose
05-02-2006, 06:58 PM
It's because they hear some wank song and just label shred. Like that guy who said he heard, Malmsteen, Satch, and Buckethead and he said they sounded all exactly the same.


Edit: Also, lol they made a thread which seems like everyone whose ever hated Yngwie came to post.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353557&page=1&pp=20

splice
05-02-2006, 08:06 PM
thats why i dont go to the pit anymore.........ever

Erc
05-02-2006, 09:36 PM
Ugh, I just read one of the dumbest things in that shred haters thread. Something along the lines "shred is to basic."

Anyways on a more awesome note, who here totally digs Art Tatum?

I just heard a few pieces off of his (like Tiger Rag...so awesome.) and its so totally awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYcmWIrtK-E&search=art%20tatum

Is a video of him playing.

EDIT --> Its interesting to, you can hear Shawn Lanes style of phrasing (or well Tatums, but yea Lane had an obsession with him) of like alternating 3s, 5s, and 6s in there and what not.

Godly Moose
05-02-2006, 11:29 PM
Ugh, I just read one of the dumbest things in that shred haters thread. Something along the lines "shred is to basic."

Anyways on a more awesome note, who here totally digs Art Tatum?

I just heard a few pieces off of his (like Tiger Rag...so awesome.) and its so totally awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYcmWIrtK-E&search=art%20tatum

Is a video of him playing.

EDIT --> Its interesting to, you can hear Shawn Lanes style of phrasing (or well Tatums, but yea Lane had an obsession with him) of like alternating 3s, 5s, and 6s in there and what not.

lol, it's a quinceidence it just so happens my iPod was being updated with that song included, as I was reading this.

mr_clapton
05-03-2006, 03:25 AM
yeah i read that shed is basic guy had a nice long rant about it too...

Archaon
05-03-2006, 09:16 AM
Yeah I think I really stuck it to em.
Well said apoc. I think I had a go at it in there too, but I didn't really try too hard, it's impossible to convince morons that you're right. Hopefully though my message about how emotion is relative to the reciever goes through.

Resiliance
05-03-2006, 10:01 AM
Just ignore it goddamnit.

It's not gonna do any good.

Matt_Malmsteen
05-03-2006, 10:29 AM
^^ I have to agree with you, although I posted on it, the amount of guitarist I know who I've tried to explaint hings to and why they should do this and that as it'll improv their playing...and do they listen? No....it really is a waste of time most the time.

Scorzerci
05-03-2006, 04:35 PM
Okay I bought a Dimarzio cliplock strap and I attached it by taking of the main attachment things for the straps on my tele, put the end part of the strap into the screw and screwed the screw back into the guitar. Now I thought that it looked somewhat "flimsy" (for lack of a better word) and somewhat unreliable and today my suspicions were confirmed. I was standing up playing my guitar and suddenly the screw just got pulled right out! Now can someone tell me if I attached the strap correctly because that is the only way I can think of to attach it.

apocalypse13
05-03-2006, 04:41 PM
The way mine works is this:

There are two pieces- 1.) Replacements for the old strap holders and 2.) Locks for the strap.

Here's how they work:

1. Remove the old strap holders.
2. Put the new ones in.
3. In the holes on the strap where it would attatch to the guitar before, you put the locks in.
4. The locks are shaped like a U, and the holder on the guitar is shaped in a way that it fits into the U, so you put the holders into the locks.

So basically, the strap will permanently have U shaped metal pieces bolted into it, in which the U shape wraps around the holders on the guitar.

I don't know if that helps any but that's the best I can explain it.

Edit: It should be important to note that I'm not sure what brand I'm using. It could be Dimarzio, but honestly I don't think it is.

Scorzerci
05-03-2006, 06:29 PM
I didnt get replacement strap holders...

apocalypse13
05-03-2006, 07:26 PM
hm?

TheUltimateSin
05-03-2006, 10:27 PM
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5500545#post5500545

There's my post

I tried analyzing that thread...I really tried. But after page 4 I couldn't take the ignorance any longer. The simple lack of knowledge as to what "shred" is that was being presented by people without said knowledge just drove me to the point of nearly pulling my hair out.......

.......Why are such ignorant people allowed to live and breed? Isn't there a way of containing these people on a little island near French Polynesia?

apocalypse13
05-03-2006, 10:34 PM
I only read the first page

TheUltimateSin
05-03-2006, 11:17 PM
Something told me to stop after the first page, but for some reason my mind told me to keep on clicking. Click and speed-read, click and speed-read, keep going until I couldn't take it anymore. that's why I never go to the pit.

mexican_shred
05-03-2006, 11:18 PM
Why are such ignorant people allowed to live and breed? Isn't there a way of containing these people on a little island near French Polynesia?
Mr Malmsteen is using those islands for his donuts

Godly Moose
05-03-2006, 11:28 PM
Sometimes I think we should just stay out of the boiling pot of ignorance that the pit is.

TheUltimateSin
05-03-2006, 11:35 PM
Mr Malmsteen is using those islands for his donuts

Well then.....the Galapagos? Maybe some other chain of islands in the South Pacific??

Stratwizard
05-04-2006, 02:24 AM
North Pole! North Pole!

TheUltimateSin
05-04-2006, 08:20 AM
^ :eek: And ruin the tranquility for all those penguins? Never...

wil
05-04-2006, 08:40 AM
at the end of the day, people have too many preconcieved notions about whats good and what isnt---the radio/tv doesnt really show all that much shred stuff so your averaged brainwashed mainstreamer associates it as uncool---theres no point trying to convert them, they have the blinkers on.

Ive got nothing against Clapton, but i like him for varying reasons, not simply because im constantly being told how good he is, and that he was reverred as Godlike etc etc, i like him because his tone, his restraint, his attack, his feel--and by that i mean playing-wise, not emotion-wise.

Its like, this guy i know, he says he wants to get better and i keep saying, listen to Vai, Malmsteen or Satch, listen to Paul Gilbert, download videos of them, but he sort of turns his nose up at it because he sees it as left-field and untasteful--which is pretty strange because Kirk Hammet is probably his fave guitarist---you see, because MTV etc still play Metallica, they still pretty much considered mainstream or commercial, therefore most kids think Kirk is a God, even though really, i think his solos are ill-concieved and tasteless. Seriously, this guy would rather spend his time downloading obscure metallica concerts than a P aul Gilbert instructional...

I showed him G3 on Google Video and he sort of smiled but i could tell he thought of it as a novelty, i made him download powertab editor to SHOW him he could get a Van Halen song or a Malmsteen lesson and slow it down but he ust got the Master of Puppets ptab instead and began chugging away. I was gonna say--and you wonder why youre not getting any better??

I seem to have gone of at a bit of a tangent here.

paddyo
05-04-2006, 01:38 PM
^I agree with all of what you said there. Some mainstream stuff is still good though,its not all bad(although most of it is):p:...

wil
05-04-2006, 01:49 PM
Im not saying its bad, but some people THINK its good BECAUSE its on the radio. know what i mean? I cant really stand the Darkness, but if they were a genuine 70s rock band--which they soooo want to be--do you think 'trendy' kids would give a **** about them? No, its just rammed down their throats all the time that theyre 'new' and 'exciting'. Its like these days you see girls wearing reissued babydoll Zeppelin and AC/DC t shirts and they more than likely have no clue who they are!

Stratwizard
05-04-2006, 02:05 PM
Why do all whine so much? I mean, for ****'s sake, let them be ignorant or posers or whatever. Let them listen pop and commercial music. It's their life, not yours. Focus your energy somewhere else.

paddyo
05-04-2006, 02:06 PM
^Yeah I understand. I got that the first time I know exactly who and what you mean, I was just saying 'sall ;).

EDIT: For Wil's post.

Resiliance
05-04-2006, 02:12 PM
Why do all whine so much? I mean, for ****'s sake, let them be ignorant or posers or whatever. Let them listen pop and commercial music. It's their life, not yours. Focus your energy somewhere else.

Yes, but you see, it IS our life.

The less people know "good" music, the less people buy it, the less people get the chance to make it.

apocalypse13
05-04-2006, 02:29 PM
Fo sho.

Seriously though, why don't these idiots stay up late and watch like Headbanger's Ball or something instead changing the background on their cell phone? I don't watch Headbanger's Ball, but I know it has some good death metal on it... *cough*nile*cough*

Anyway, there's a ton of kids at my school who wear an AC/DC or Korn shirt and think they're hXc. I'm waiting for one to ask me my tastes so I can say "Heavier than you've ever heard, that I'm almost sure of." "What! Heavier than Korn!!? No way, it's not possible!"

.........*cue to walk away*

Matt_Malmsteen
05-04-2006, 04:43 PM
^^:haha:

Man that'd be so cool, but man Korn play 7-string :eek: can't get heavier than that :p:

I actively make the effort to NOT talk to people about music, because I'd just end up either throttling them or looking at them imagining I am.....

apocalypse13
05-04-2006, 04:50 PM
Yeah, I'd probably just look at them and put on a weak smile and shake my head slightly.

TBH, there's probably like 2 or 3 people besides me in my school who like music as heavy as I do. I do like a very wide range of music, from soft video game themes all the way to stuff like Psycroptic... <_<

Scorzerci
05-04-2006, 05:10 PM
I don't talk to anyone in my school about music cus basically they all listen to pop punk and think they are the coolest rebel kids ever or they listen to rap...

wil
05-04-2006, 05:16 PM
most kids i know say they love slash, so i'll say 'listen to some of Paul Gilbert's stuff, his rock/blues stuff is like slash only better' and theyre like--'who? nah...'

No im not gonna say lets all start wearing Malmsteen shirts etc, but i hate it when people only stick to whats current/''classic'' or cool--if someone tells me they love Hendrix and Clapton im not just gonna agree, i'll tell them i like Hendrix and Clapton, but im not gonna leave it there to try and stay on this person's wavelength, i'll tell them i like Gilbert, Vai, Lane, Satch etc...and to hell with it if theyve never heard of them--its their loss.

TheUltimateSin
05-04-2006, 05:29 PM
i'll tell them i like Gilbert, Vai, Lane, Satch etc...and to hell with it if theyve never heard of them--its their loss.

That is the part I liked most about what you said. :)


Probably the only person I can mention without getting too many blank stares is Randy Rhoads. There are a few who have heard of him. I have also somehow managed to opened a few people up to Buckethead, Becker, and Vai. People around where I live are starting to take notice to these musicians now. And it's all because of me(which in turn is because of most of you here on UG's Shred forum that I even know these names). I was otherwise the only person within 20 miles who had even heard of these people otherwise.

apocalypse13
05-04-2006, 06:04 PM
^Yeah I let people listen to my music quite a bit.

btw, I have a Rising Force shirt signed by Yngwie's drummer.

\m/

canadianshred
05-04-2006, 06:14 PM
Ultimatesin-you took my spongebob avatar idea

TheUltimateSin
05-04-2006, 06:18 PM
Ultimatesin-you took my spongebob avatar idea

Pff, pay no mind to it at the moment. It's just a filler for the moment.

Trust me, if I get my way with what I am trying to throw together, MY Spongebob avatar will megasuperdooperdeluxespecialedition pwn yours ;)

canadianshred
05-04-2006, 06:20 PM
pft no, i had the original spongebob avatar therefor mine being 10 bijillion times better

Prophet of Page
05-04-2006, 06:22 PM
People have learned not to ask me about my taste in music ;)

Basically, I don't give a **** what anybody listens to. Be as ignorant as you like, just **** off to Siberia please. But it bothers me when I'm asked my taste, I discuss and they act like the music I listen to is crap when they haven't even heard it. Then I become an elitist prick.

Like, one time a guy asked me what I thought was good metal, I said that Opeth were pretty bitchin. The guy without even having heard them said "Yeah, but they're just like every other bunch of Metallica clones out there." That was a LONG arguement.

Or this other time, a guy said that "anything instrumental just means guitar solos, there's no theme or melody to it." Another long arguement.

Or the time that I was asked why I was listening to "nonsense" (it was an Alan Holdsworth album). I replied "because I'm not an ignorant dumbass that can't accept what he can't understand."

Or the time that some guy said that that dumbass from Placebo is a better songwriter than all the guys I listen to.

Basically, don't undermine what I listen to, because you ARE wrong.

PooKoo
05-04-2006, 06:28 PM
Dude, i wouldh ave to beat some ass, how do you manage such dignified pwnage, are you british?

Prophet of Page
05-04-2006, 06:40 PM
Irish ;)

TheUltimateSin
05-04-2006, 07:01 PM
Irish ;)

F*ck yeah :headbang: UG's Irish unite!

Erc
05-04-2006, 09:45 PM
I let my friends listen to Tiger Rag today by Art Tatum on a bus ride. They didn't quite...get it...so to speak.

Meh, with "complex" music either you get it or you don't, and I've figured out its a waste of time trying to get the guy next to you listening to "Hello Goodbye" (some pop-emo band or whatever) to appreciate Art Tatum.

My new amp is gonna be at my house in "a large box" on monday (according to email). I'm pumped.

apocalypse13
05-04-2006, 09:48 PM
F*ck yeah :headbang: UG's Irish unite!
I thought you lived in Wisconsin, ho

TheUltimateSin
05-04-2006, 09:58 PM
I thought you lived in Wisconsin, ho

Whaa? Hell no. I live in Minnesota. But I am 70% Irish in heritage

apocalypse13
05-04-2006, 10:10 PM
Me no know my heritage too well.

Four-Sticks
05-04-2006, 10:15 PM
dude
Passion and Warfare TAB book signed by Steve Vai.
That do anything for ya?
hahah

Righteous
05-04-2006, 10:20 PM
dude
Passion and Warfare TAB book signed by Steve Vai.
That do anything for ya?
hahah

Oh yeah? Penis, signed by Natalie Portman.

TheUltimateSin
05-04-2006, 10:25 PM
Me no know my heritage too well.

Might wanna check it out. Me and my cousin sat down and traced our family's heritage all the way back to the 14th century so far and found royalty. Needless to say, I was "one happy camper" to discover that.

So you never know what you might find.

Four-Sticks
05-04-2006, 10:43 PM
Oh yeah? Penis, signed by Natalie Portman.

muahaha
no lie

apocalypse13
05-04-2006, 10:49 PM
Might wanna check it out. Me and my cousin sat down and traced our family's heritage all the way back to the 14th century so far and found royalty. Needless to say, I was "one happy camper" to discover that.

So you never know what you might find.hmmm

idk

but what I do know is that Aeris's theme or Aerith's on the Advent Children is one of the greatest songs ever.

ever. ;)

TheUltimateSin
05-04-2006, 10:52 PM
^the new electric-guitar version of One-Winged Angel = teh pwnage. Pure pwnage. I would love to see someone on this forum have a go at that.

wil
05-05-2006, 08:05 AM
I let my friends listen to Tiger Rag today by Art Tatum on a bus ride. They didn't quite...get it...so to speak.

Meh, with "complex" music either you get it or you don't, and I've figured out its a waste of time trying to get the guy next to you listening to "Hello Goodbye" (some pop-emo band or whatever) to appreciate Art Tatum.

My new amp is gonna be at my house in "a large box" on monday (according to email). I'm pumped.

I find a similar problem--some people dont care how technically or compositionally good a solo is, if its not pentatonic then their ears dont 'get' it and they dont like it.
The one exception is Malmsteen whom a lot of people played Malmsteen too like it because i think that classical-sounding melodies always sort of appeal to us, even these days, plus Malmsteens dynamics, attack and delivery prove to be exciting enough to hook the listener for a while--as opposed to Vai stuff--i played someone For the Love of God once and they started going on about how it sounded like porno music---wtF?

Matt_Malmsteen
05-05-2006, 08:58 AM
Ppftt Nobuo uematsu generally kicks ass, but the oringinal One-Winged Angel owns, the FFVII boss battle owns all and Those Who Fight Further off AC is teh pwnage.

Four-Sticks
05-05-2006, 09:47 AM
Random thought after watching the Steve Vai performance following the John Petrucci performance on the 2005 G3:
Petrucci isn't really all that good...

Prophet of Page
05-05-2006, 10:49 AM
Random thought after watching the Steve Vai performance following the John Petrucci performance on the 2005 G3:
Petrucci isn't really all that good...


He's sort of clinical IMO.

Four-Sticks
05-05-2006, 11:05 AM
^Yeah, in my opinion Steve Vai is the Benjamin Franklin of the guitar, and John Petrucci is the John Adams of guitar.

I never was too fond of John Adams.

paddyo
05-05-2006, 11:19 AM
Irish ;)
Fo sho' Mutha ****aaa! Represent:D (Really this time,Ultimate Sin :no: ......:p: )

Resiliance
05-05-2006, 11:28 AM
I let my friends listen to Tiger Rag today by Art Tatum on a bus ride. They didn't quite...get it...so to speak.

Meh, with "complex" music either you get it or you don't, and I've figured out its a waste of time trying to get the guy next to you listening to "Hello Goodbye" (some pop-emo band or whatever) to appreciate Art Tatum.


Nah, that's really not true...

I've gotten countless of people who were before clueless people who listened to 50cent into even some John Cage stuff... It's all a matter of adjustment.

Stratwizard
05-05-2006, 03:22 PM
I got my my ex-girlfriend into shred. She bought about dozen shred albums! Too bad I'm not with her anymore...

TheUltimateSin
05-05-2006, 04:19 PM
Fo sho' Mutha ****aaa! Represent:D (Really this time,Ultimate Sin :no: ......:p: )

Biotch, I am traced to Irish royalty foo. Bow down you peasent!














yeeaahhh..... :p:

gtgram14
05-05-2006, 09:34 PM
Nah, that's really not true...

I've gotten countless of people who were before clueless people who listened to 50cent into even some John Cage stuff... It's all a matter of adjustment.

John Cage owns...But you have to admit there are some people who will never be able appreciate a prepared piano piece or something of equal unorthodoxness<is that even a word?

Also for the guys ragging on petrucci, yes he may not be the most technically adept player out there...but cmon now, the guy has some serious mojo. He can write excellent songs and "perfect" solos that fit them. Granted alot of that is opinion but there are alot of people that recognize his lacking technique and feel the same way. He's got a great sense of melody and wonderful compositional skills. Glasgow kiss imo is a better composition than a lot of vai's stuff, and the solo is absolute perfection, that being just one example. So while he may not be on the same level guitar playing wise with vai, I think his musicianship more than makes up for it.

and on that G3 dvd youve gotta admit that as nasty as "the audience is listening" was....it was basically a wankfest.

PooKoo
05-06-2006, 12:03 AM
alrighty shredders and shreddets, lately ive been getting on a vinnie moore fix, so for all of those who havent heard him, i felt like being generous.

http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D980741633C2685D

http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=C89ABF4213E9BC7C

SnowballofDoom
05-06-2006, 12:14 AM
^Thankums :kiss:

PooKoo
05-06-2006, 12:35 AM
no problem, im sure most of you have them, but eh.

paddyo
05-06-2006, 10:00 AM
Have you guys seen the new Arps video on the main page yet? Its pretty good,Kris has some really good skills and is a good teacher in the video. What do you guys think?

Stratwizard
05-06-2006, 11:58 AM
I'll watch it later...

Cosmic Acid
05-06-2006, 12:29 PM
hey guys u thinks that rg2550E will be good for shred? and what with the pickups?

Stratwizard
05-06-2006, 01:15 PM
Get 1570 and swap the pickups.

Gman400
05-07-2006, 03:52 PM
The new arp vid is great but it was really just learning his solo which incorporated a few different sweep arps, rather than actually going over like....i dunno it was good and he's my hero.

Anyway, are the arpeggio sweeps in Altitude by Jason becker to hard for a person playing for a little over 2 years? I can sweep pretty fast but I only know a couple riffs (like the sweeps somewhere in Warheart by Children of Bodom)

Erc
05-07-2006, 04:21 PM
^ Depends on how much you practice sweeping.

I thought that lesson on arps was pretty good, it was entertaining to say the least. The dancing and shades were awesome.

But ugh his tone is unberable.

Midnight 260
05-07-2006, 05:01 PM
I think they are pretty easy to play, but what the **** do i know, heh. i've been playing a little over two years

Scorzerci
05-07-2006, 05:17 PM
Well I basically lost a lot of respect for him when I saw a video clip from his video ("speed tone and theory) where he said that economy picking was "cheating" and that it shouldn't be done...

Resiliance
05-07-2006, 05:22 PM
Have you guys seen the new Arps video on the main page yet? Its pretty good,Kris has some really good skills and is a good teacher in the video. What do you guys think?

He's a good teacher, but the solo is pretty much wanking imo. Again giving shredders a bad name.

Freepower
05-07-2006, 05:36 PM
^ well, its humourous shred with a few standard rock licks thrown in for ignorant rockers. Its a good example of a limited genre, imo. :)

Resiliance
05-07-2006, 05:37 PM
^Only it's not quite that limited.

Freepower
05-07-2006, 05:57 PM
^ god no, look at BTS. I think its decent, at least theres no bloody A and Em shapes swept all the way through.

apocalypse13
05-07-2006, 08:51 PM
I own The Advent Children.

*Points finger and laughs, then headbangs furiously*

:headbang:

TheUltimateSin
05-07-2006, 09:00 PM
:eek: You just got it? Dude.....:no:........opening day is the way to go.........


..............................


........


........Ah what the hell :headbang: the movie is teh essence of pwn

apocalypse13
05-07-2006, 09:04 PM
Actually, I got it last night.

After watching MI3, which by the way, fukin rocks. It is one of the best movies I've seen in a while.

Erc
05-07-2006, 09:42 PM
I was going to see that movie but I didn't.

Instead I saw The Sentinal which was a pretty interesting movie.

apocalypse13
05-07-2006, 09:46 PM
We was thinking about it but didn't know anything about it, so we didn't.

But I don't regret. MI3 was really fucking cool.

Acϵ♠
05-07-2006, 10:03 PM
yeah so what's tremolo picking

TheUltimateSin
05-07-2006, 10:18 PM
^ :eek: !!! To the Technique thread with you!

Acϵ♠
05-07-2006, 10:54 PM
fine then. i suppose the random shred chat thread has turned into the random chat thread which happens to be in the shred forum

TheUltimateSin
05-07-2006, 10:56 PM
Relax dude, I was messin' with ya. :p:

mexican_shred
05-07-2006, 11:00 PM
We was thinking about it but didn't know anything about it, so we didn't.

But I don't regret. MI3 was really fucking cool.
ill take your word for it. Im going to see it.

mr_clapton
05-08-2006, 03:04 AM
hey i was watching wildboyz (yes you know the one with pontius and steve-o) and they had this game going where they were asking questions and if they got it wrong they got zapped by something.....but thats besides the point, one of the questions was who is president of Argentina? and steve-o stands there and says "yngwie malmsteen"

just thought it was a cool moment where noone but shred fans would know who he was :P

tombo32
05-08-2006, 04:18 AM
hey i was watching wildboyz (yes you know the one with pontius and steve-o) and they had this game going where they were asking questions and if they got it wrong they got zapped by something.....but thats besides the point, one of the questions was who is president of Argentina? and steve-o stands there and says "yngwie malmsteen"

just thought it was a cool moment where noone but shred fans would know who he was :P


:haha

Which season?

I have seen the whole of season 1 btw. :p: Funny stuff.


Also, can anyone play the arps in Serrana (Becker)? I just started learning them, but I want to know if it would be better to learn one line, then get it perfect (or close to perfect), then move on to the next line or to learn the whole thing and then keep practicing it untill its perfect? :confused: - Hope that made sense

mr_clapton
05-08-2006, 05:42 AM
its the new season so i dont know which that is

i reccommend learning 1 phrase at a time and getting it perfect then moving on, cause when you learn it all you might go around saying hay i can play serrana and someone asks you to play it and you suck, not saying you would do that but i just know guitarists.....more competitive than any sportsperson i say

HammerForce
05-08-2006, 07:59 AM
I would do it one line at a time, then spend ages working on stringing the whole thing together. It's a pretty awesome song, I'm quite surprised I haven't tried it yet tbh.

EDIT:I just read that Rising Force sold 27million copies in Russia. Does anyone know where you can find total record sales data for people, I'd be interested to see how many records Yngwie has sold, seeing as this is almost half of the amount that Maiden and Metallica have sold...In one album.

Stratwizard
05-08-2006, 09:41 AM
^Yeah, I've read that too, but I'm not sure, if it's true. I mean 27 million albums is pretty ****ing much. Even for Yngwie Malmsteen. :p:

HammerForce
05-08-2006, 10:01 AM
The only reason I though it was true is because it was sourced off Wikipedia, and every other site with an Yngwie biography which I checked seemed to agree, he must be ****ing loaded

Resiliance
05-08-2006, 11:47 AM
I would do it one line at a time, then spend ages working on stringing the whole thing together. It's a pretty awesome song, I'm quite surprised I haven't tried it yet tbh.

EDIT:I just read that Rising Force sold 27million copies in Russia. Does anyone know where you can find total record sales data for people, I'd be interested to see how many records Yngwie has sold, seeing as this is almost half of the amount that Maiden and Metallica have sold...In one album.

Yeah, but there was thing thing where Yngwie's tour manager and part of his crew or pretty much ripped him off and took most of the money...

He deserves it anyhoo.

Stratwizard
05-08-2006, 11:55 AM
He deserves it anyhoo.

Why?

Resiliance
05-08-2006, 11:57 AM
The money, I mean, not being ripped off, lol.

Stratwizard
05-08-2006, 12:53 PM
Oh... :p: lol silly me!

Erc
05-08-2006, 04:57 PM
My new amp came in bitches.

Second hand, and in BEAUTIFUL condition!!

The guitar posing with the amp that I have thus called "tiny." Heaviest 1x12 I've ever picked up.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/CrapplePapple/tinyamp.jpg


And now me and my guitar posing with the amp


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/CrapplePapple/tinyandme.jpg

PooKoo
05-08-2006, 05:11 PM
niiiice, you look just like a kid i know.

Gman400
05-08-2006, 06:04 PM
Wow...you're guitar pwnz...I know what it's called but can someone refresh me? if I had that thing I would practice 24/7 (or at least pretend) just to look at it.

splice
05-08-2006, 06:05 PM
niiiice, you look just like a kid i know.


wow.....me too

and the kid i know plays guitar

Godly Moose
05-08-2006, 06:58 PM
I just came up with the coolest idea, it would be freakin sweet if everyone in the shred forum all got together and made one huge ass song on GP4, like an 10+ min epic, with like 8 guitars... it would be a shred symphony.

Erc
05-08-2006, 07:05 PM
you look just like a kid i know.


wow.....me too

and the kid i know plays guitar

Everybody and their mother knows somebody who looks like me. I don't get it =(, I don't know anybody that looks like me, though I saw this guy that looked like an exact clone of me except taller and skinnier. It was wierd...

Wow...you're guitar pwnz...I know what it's called but can someone refresh me? if I had that thing I would practice 24/7

It is a schecter c-1 classic.

PooKoo
05-08-2006, 07:17 PM
I just came up with the coolest idea, it would be freakin sweet if everyone in the shred forum all got together and made one huge ass song on GP4, like an 10+ min epic, with like 8 guitars... it would be a shred symphony.

yeah we totally should, didnt we try that once?

Godly Moose
05-08-2006, 07:26 PM
yeah we totally should, didnt we try that once?


Not that I know of. : /

Maybe we should make a topic?

PooKoo
05-08-2006, 07:34 PM
yeahhh we should. you wanna start or should i? (for the song)

Godly Moose
05-08-2006, 07:42 PM
yeahhh we should. you wanna start or should i? (for the song)

You can start if you want. : ) I'm going to do my homework real quick then make a topic.

PooKoo
05-08-2006, 08:01 PM
i'll start it later tonight/tomorrow.

Gman400
05-08-2006, 08:15 PM
I've seen it tried a million times on other forums and it's never worked so don't get to excited :/

PooKoo
05-08-2006, 08:21 PM
oh i know it wont work.

actually, i probably wont even tab out anything, i hate gp and pt, its impossible to get it to get the right timings.

Freepower
05-09-2006, 05:17 AM
What are you guys, retarded?

Pookoo, you just did your section of a big GP file, remember? The big forum composed epic? Titled "The Shrade" or something similar...I started it off, passed it along...

PooKoo
05-09-2006, 06:44 AM
thats what i thought, what happened to it though?

Cosmic Acid
05-09-2006, 09:09 AM
hey what do you guys think is the best distortion for shred? i have mt-2 but it sux ;/

Stratwizard
05-09-2006, 09:13 AM
I like to use the distortion I have in my GT-8.

Freepower
05-09-2006, 10:56 AM
^ how is the GT8? (EDIT: Stunt guitar is awesome, btw.)

And i have no idea where that gp file is. I could re-post the most recent version i have...

Stratwizard
05-09-2006, 03:56 PM
I like the GT-8 very much. It's very versatile; I can get a lot of different distortions/clean sounds. Besides, it's easy to record as I can plug it straight into my computer.

SuburbanCowboy
05-09-2006, 04:14 PM
I like the GT-8 very much. It's very versatile; I can get a lot of different distortions/clean sounds. Besides, it's easy to record as I can plug it straight into my computer.


Your tone is perfect, man. It sounds just like Vai's live tone.

Is your setup just Jem>GT-8>PC?

PooKoo
05-09-2006, 05:54 PM
just read in a magazine that vinnie moore's saying he should release a new instrumental cd sometime this/next year.

yay if its true.

mr_clapton
05-09-2006, 06:24 PM
yay, and the lord smiled upn thee

apocalypse13
05-09-2006, 08:53 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/apocalypse13/YarfPirateBunnycopy.jpg

Gman400
05-09-2006, 09:53 PM
Is the GT8 like an fx pedal that goes through your amp?

chase09
05-09-2006, 09:58 PM
Alright guys, this (http://www.carvin.com/products/guitar.php?ItemNumber=CT6M) is the guitar I'm looking to buy when I save up enough money. I'm thinking I'll probably pay extra to get a Floyd Rose Tremelo, and I just want to know what your guys' opinions on this guitar are. I'm not a guitar tech junkie so I don't know anything about which pickups are good or bad, etc.. Basically, could you guys tell me if this guitar would be good for getting a good shred tone, or just shred in general. Thanks.

Stratwizard
05-10-2006, 08:25 AM
Your tone is perfect, man. It sounds just like Vai's live tone.

Is your setup just Jem>GT-8>PC?

Yes, it is.

Is the GT8 like an fx pedal that goes through your amp?

No, I don't use an amp.

:cheers:

Resiliance
05-10-2006, 09:04 AM
Your tone is perfect, man. It sounds just like Vai's live tone.

Is your setup just Jem>GT-8>PC?

No offense to Stratwizard...

But SuburbanCowboy, are you serious? It's not too bad, but you can hear it's digital and it misses that tube oomph... :confused:

Stratwizard
05-10-2006, 09:48 AM
No offense to Stratwizard...

But SuburbanCowboy, are you serious? It's not too bad, but you can hear it's digital and it misses that tube oomph... :confused:

No offence taken.

Of course it's digital and misses the spirit of a good tube amp, but this is still the best way to record and get a good tone.

I'm saving up for a nice tube amp though... ;)

Ugliest Weenie
05-10-2006, 03:08 PM
damn stratwizard you're finnish? me too :) noticed when listening to your music, nice!

Stratwizard
05-10-2006, 03:18 PM
damn stratwizard you're finnish? me too :) noticed when listening to your music, nice!

That's cool! I haven't met a lot of Finns here...

Ugliest Weenie
05-10-2006, 03:22 PM
That's cool! I haven't met a lot of Finns here...

me neither, actually you're the only one so far to come across my path :p:

what program you got on your pc to pass as your amp?

Stratwizard
05-10-2006, 03:25 PM
Cool Edit Pro 2.0

Beckerism
05-10-2006, 05:26 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6SPzqYApZpI&search=air%20becker

That guy's playing skills in that song are around mine at the moment.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=YK57dUuaYpY&search=air%20becker

I have no idea how he made it look so easy. :o

Edit: http://youtube.com/watch?v=eSaJ94B2uj4&search=jason%20becker

Bad cam, but spot on. /jealous.

mr_clapton
05-10-2006, 06:12 PM
do you like search jason becker everyday?

Beckerism
05-10-2006, 06:22 PM
do you like search jason becker everyday?

Every weekish. :haha

SuburbanCowboy
05-10-2006, 10:24 PM
No offense to Stratwizard...

But SuburbanCowboy, are you serious? It's not too bad, but you can hear it's digital and it misses that tube oomph... :confused:


Well I'm currently using a Line 6 Guitarport with a sh*tty soundcard. His tone is the kind I'm been trying to dial in, but I can never seem to get it right. I know it doesnt have that tube warmth, but for digital modeling it sounds pretty damn good to me.

chase09
05-11-2006, 08:38 AM
Hey guys, Saturday I'm going to a MAB clinic and was wondering if you guys take your guitars or other things with you when you go to clinics. Hopefully I'll get a picture with him and his double guitar. :D

And tomorrow my band is playing Iron Man (I'm singing and playing rhythm while my friend does lead) for the talent show, but afterwards I'm going to do the tapping to Eruption and he might do Dee. We also have to play it today since today is kind of a talent show rehearsal and we have to do everything exactly the same way we're doing it tomorrow.

paddyo
05-11-2006, 01:34 PM
^No I dont think so. From what I've seen although I've never been to one...*Que Pookoo and his story of meeting MAB*:rolleyes:





















:p:

PooKoo
05-11-2006, 02:41 PM
Hey guys, Saturday I'm going to a MAB clinic and was wondering if you guys take your guitars or other things with you when you go to clinics. Hopefully I'll get a picture with him and his double guitar. :D

And tomorrow my band is playing Iron Man (I'm singing and playing rhythm while my friend does lead) for the talent show, but afterwards I'm going to do the tapping to Eruption and he might do Dee. We also have to play it today since today is kind of a talent show rehearsal and we have to do everything exactly the same way we're doing it tomorrow.

went to one last year, you can bring your guitar to get signed if you'd like. And yes, he does picturesa nd lets people hold the guitar, at least i got to.
good luck on that,btw

chase09
05-11-2006, 04:53 PM
^Yah, I'm not sure if my dad is going to let me get my crappy guitar signed, not to mention that there's nowhere it'd show up anyway since it's too dark a color (unless he used silver permanent marker). It's gonna be a blast seeing him though. :cool:

Just got back from the mock talent show and my mom recorded it. My vox were a little flat and my friend messed the lead up (no one really noticed but I did and he did). Then he played Dee standing up with an electric (not really a good idea) and he blew it, but that's okay because there was hardly anyone there. Tomorrow he is going to sit down and do it on an acoustic. Then I got up there and put on a flanger effect and fucking owned the solo to Eruption (I just learned it at 10 o'clock last night too).

Although while my friend was playing Dee, I forgot to put my whammy bar on so I could do some cool stuff at the end of Eruption, so I'll probably just play the whole show with it on since it won't get in my way playing Iron Man.

EDIT: When I was done playing Eruption, I talked to this guy who plays acoustic and is singing with the best singer in school tomorrow for the talent show and he said he didn't believe I was playing it at first. :haha

chase09
05-11-2006, 05:25 PM
This (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1775128028743135037&q=Jason+Becker) is an interesting documentary on Jason Becker that appeared on ABC nearly 10 years ago. I highly recommend watching it (especially Beckerism). Such a travesty that he can't play anymore. The clips they are playing in the documentary from his Raspberry Jams album sound incredible.

paddyo
05-11-2006, 05:35 PM
^Old,yet still inspririg:)

PooKoo
05-11-2006, 05:57 PM
eh, eruptions cool but once you get into shred it loses something, imo at least. I played it when as i walked off my set, as a joke even, but its cool, still got a good response.

Beckerism
05-11-2006, 07:23 PM
This (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1775128028743135037&q=Jason+Becker) is an interesting documentary on Jason Becker that appeared on ABC nearly 10 years ago. I highly recommend watching it (especially Beckerism). Such a travesty that he can't play anymore. The clips they are playing in the documentary from his Raspberry Jams album sound incredible.

Thanks for posting it for the others, but believe me, I've seen it many many times. :)

And Raspberry Jams IS amazing. :)

apocalypse13
05-11-2006, 09:44 PM
^Yah, I'm not sure if my dad is going to let me get my crappy guitar signed, not to mention that there's nowhere it'd show up anyway since it's too dark a color (unless he used silver permanent marker). It's gonna be a blast seeing him though. :cool:

Just got back from the mock talent show and my mom recorded it. My vox were a little flat and my friend messed the lead up (no one really noticed but I did and he did). Then he played Dee standing up with an electric (not really a good idea) and he blew it, but that's okay because there was hardly anyone there. Tomorrow he is going to sit down and do it on an acoustic. Then I got up there and put on a flanger effect and fucking owned the solo to Eruption (I just learned it at 10 o'clock last night too).

Although while my friend was playing Dee, I forgot to put my whammy bar on so I could do some cool stuff at the end of Eruption, so I'll probably just play the whole show with it on since it won't get in my way playing Iron Man.

EDIT: When I was done playing Eruption, I talked to this guy who plays acoustic and is singing with the best singer in school tomorrow for the talent show and he said he didn't believe I was playing it at first. :haha
Play Under the Influence at 150% speed and you'll pwn everyone...








































:o

Godly Moose
05-12-2006, 12:55 AM
Just... lost... my... last... pick... I... think... i'm... going... to... explode. I put it down for less then 15 seconds to get my amp from the car. And when I come back it's gone. This is like the 50th time.

tombo32
05-12-2006, 04:27 AM
^Old,yet still inspririg:)

x2

eh, eruptions cool but once you get into shred it loses something, imo at least.

x2

Just... lost... my... last... pick... I... think... i'm... going... to... explode. I put it down for less then 15 seconds to get my amp from the car. And when I come back it's gone. This is like the 50th time.

Thats what used to happen to me before I bought my big watch:

http://www.eoswatches.com/images/EOS19LBlackCroco.jpg

^ I put the picks between the leather and the watchface bit on either side. Now I don't loose as many pics. And yes that is my exact watch (exept the glass in mine is all smashed up. Meh, it looks better that way).

Stratwizard
05-12-2006, 06:48 AM
I usually put the pick in my mouth and forget where it is. :p:

chase09
05-12-2006, 07:09 AM
Play Under the Influence at 150% speed and you'll pwn everyone...

:o

Nah, but I did play the chorus from Suspension at 100% speed and everyone was in awe, then some emo band came up and sang about cutting themselves and everyone clapped louder for them and forgot about me. :mad:

/sarcasm

Although I wouldn't be surprised if something like that happened in real life. :(

Andrewbiles
05-12-2006, 08:04 AM
I usually put the pick in my mouth and forget where it is. :p:

:haha I always do that as well. Start searching around me to find it and then it drops out.

~1954~
05-12-2006, 10:48 AM
^ Yeah same here, or i just chuck it away coz im pissed off with my playing ability and have to look for it for about 10 mins :p:

TheUltimateSin
05-12-2006, 02:57 PM
I usually put the pick in my mouth and forget where it is. :p:

I do that all the time. Whenever I go to fingerpick or tap(attempt to tap, that is), that's where I put it: in the mouth. I did it one time and spent at least 10 minutes trying to find my pick afterwards before I realized that it was hanging between my lips. Boy did I feel stupid after that.




On a side note, I was wondering if anyone has played a Jackson RR1 and if so, is it a good guitar for shredding(uhhg..I hate using that hollow word)? I had the chance to play around with one, but I want the opinions of those of you who know how to actually play and have had this opportunity.

SuburbanCowboy
05-12-2006, 03:09 PM
I usually put the pick in my mouth and forget where it is. :p:


Mine always fall on the ground and seem to disappear into another realm

Scorzerci
05-12-2006, 04:14 PM
I've had the same 4 Jazz III's for like half a year and I still haven't lost any of them:)

SuburbanCowboy
05-12-2006, 04:20 PM
Is there no better way to start a solo than a slow bend on the 3rd fret, G string? Sounds so evil....



and does anyone know where I can get a better spider avatar? I just realized how gay mine looks :(

BlackViper
05-12-2006, 05:24 PM
Ive been playing for about 2 years and I was thinking about getting into shredding.
So I was wondering were I should start.

Godly Moose
05-12-2006, 07:34 PM
Right here ---> http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353140

Axegrinder#9
05-13-2006, 01:50 AM
I've of late been listening to some Savatage, and they really are a great band... I'd suggest all to check them out. Prior to Skolnick's and Al Pitrelli's work in the band, Chris Oliva was one great guitarist - he had the chops, the songwriting abilities, and a strong grasp over melody... check out his work on "Edge of Thorns" great ****ing album... it was tragic that he died after this album...

chase09
05-13-2006, 08:05 PM
Alright guys, I just got back from a MAB clinic and I have to admit that it was absolutely amazing. My dad, his friend, and I were the first 3 people to show up and we were in the middle of the front row, less than 10 feet from MAB then entire time.

He started playing Burn, and then stopped in the middle because he realized he was playing with a Jazz I instead of a Jazz III pick and it was making it harder for him to shred. So he chucked it away and I eventually went and got it. Then, later on when he was playing his double guitar, a red pick fell out of the guitar. He used this pick earlier during the sound check after it fell out, then put it back and said it would suck if he went for it during a song and it wasn't there (the irony :haha). So I am in possession of two plectrums used by MAB.

After he was done playing, I bought a CD from him and got him to autograph the cover, then he autographed a poster and even wrote "To Ian Osborne" on it. Next, I got my picture taken with him. The funny thing is, is that the guy right behind me in line for autographs name was Jake Rhoads. MAB then loudly said, "I just signed autographs for Ian Osborne and Jake Rhoads" (think Ozzy & Randy) which I thought was pretty cool.

After the autographs, we hung around for a little while and then I got a picture of me wearing the double guitar with me playing the right handed neck and MAB playing the left handed neck. My dad's friend also got his picture taken with MAB and the double-neck guitar.

A few minutes later, Brian (my dad's friend) was asking MAB how to do pinch harmonics on the low E string, so MAB took the double-neck guitar apart and asked Brian to hold one of the necks while MAB showed him how to do it on the other neck. Finally, MAB said to my dad and I that we had some nerves wearing Gibson shirts at a Dean retailer, but he was just kidding. :p:

Overall, the entire experience was great, I got 2 picks used by MAB, an autographed Hands Without Shadows CD, a personalized HWS poster autographed by MAB, and learned 2 important pieces of info. to help my technique. All in all, I'd say that it was pretty kickass, especially since it was free.

Gman400
05-13-2006, 08:12 PM
Can you explain the things he said about technique?

Also doing pinches on the low E if you know. Thanks.

mr_clapton
05-13-2006, 08:41 PM
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Bumblefoot a.k.a Ron Thal is the new guitarist for GnR
this isnt official but he has played a show with the band as the guitarist. Not sure how to feel about this but anyway discuss...

http://bumbleforum.lesvilles.org/viewtopic.php?t=1798&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 link to bbf forums

HammerForce
05-13-2006, 08:46 PM
Dude that is gona be awesome at download, not as god as an originaly G'n'R lineup would've been but Ron Thal kicks some major ass.

chase09
05-13-2006, 08:48 PM
Can you explain the things he said about technique?

Also doing pinches on the low E if you know. Thanks.

One thing was about muting when you do arpeggios. He said he uses his left hand to mute entirely instead of both hands or just his right. I've been muting with both hands, and have found that when I mute with my right it makes excess noise from my palm on the strings. It is much cleaner if you can learn to mute with your left hand only.

The other was about alternate picking from the thumb/wrist. I've been trying to pick from the thumb (as I have heard this is how he does it) but I was apparently doing it wrong. He said NEVER to clench (for lack of a better word) your thumb when you pick with it as it can cause carpal tunnel. For example, hold your thumb straight up and then bend down just the top joint. He says that your thumb should stay straight when you alternate pick at high speeds with that technique.

The pinch harmonics on the low E, you just gotta do them the same way as you do on the other strings (I'm assuming you know how to do them, if not then go to the technique thread) it just takes a lot of practice and experimentation until you learn the angle you're going to have to attack with to make it happen. I can do it about 50% of the time on the low E.

tombo32
05-13-2006, 09:18 PM
Alright guys, I just got back from a MAB clinic and I have to admit that it was absolutely amazing. My dad, his friend, and I were the first 3 people to show up and we were in the middle of the front row, less than 10 feet from MAB then entire time.

He started playing Burn, and then stopped in the middle because he realized he was playing with a Jazz I instead of a Jazz III pick and it was making it harder for him to shred. So he chucked it away and I eventually went and got it. Then, later on when he was playing his double guitar, a red pick fell out of the guitar. He used this pick earlier during the sound check after it fell out, then put it back and said it would suck if he went for it during a song and it wasn't there (the irony :haha). So I am in possession of two plectrums used by MAB.

After he was done playing, I bought a CD from him and got him to autograph the cover, then he autographed a poster and even wrote "To Ian Osborne" on it. Next, I got my picture taken with him. The funny thing is, is that the guy right behind me in line for autographs name was Jake Rhoads. MAB then loudly said, "I just signed autographs for Ian Osborne and Jake Rhoads" (think Ozzy & Randy) which I thought was pretty cool.

After the autographs, we hung around for a little while and then I got a picture of me wearing the double guitar with me playing the right handed neck and MAB playing the left handed neck. My dad's friend also got his picture taken with MAB and the double-neck guitar.

A few minutes later, Brian (my dad's friend) was asking MAB how to do pinch harmonics on the low E string, so MAB took the double-neck guitar apart and asked Brian to hold one of the necks while MAB showed him how to do it on the other neck. Finally, MAB said to my dad and I that we had some nerves wearing Gibson shirts at a Dean retailer, but he was just kidding. :p:

Overall, the entire experience was great, I got 2 picks used by MAB, an autographed Hands Without Shadows CD, a personalized HWS poster autographed by MAB, and learned 2 important pieces of info. to help my technique. All in all, I'd say that it was pretty kickass, especially since it was free.

:eek:

Were not worthy!

http://www.muslimwakeup.com/archives/images/worthy300.jpg


And is MAB left or right handed?

chase09
05-13-2006, 09:59 PM
Left handed.

Gman400
05-13-2006, 10:44 PM
I got my mesa/boogie double recto earlier today by the way. I'm gonna set it up tomorrow but yeah...awesome. Hopefully I'll learn to get te sounds I want out of it well without hurting the tubes.

Axegrinder#9
05-13-2006, 11:12 PM
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Bumblefoot a.k.a Ron Thal is the new guitarist for GnR
this isnt official but he has played a show with the band as the guitarist. Not sure how to feel about this but anyway discuss...

http://bumbleforum.lesvilles.org/viewtopic.php?t=1798&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 link to bbf forums

what the **** :eek:

Axegrinder#9
05-13-2006, 11:36 PM
and holy jesus it is true... what however is pathetic is virtually nobody knows who Ron Thal is and keep talking about the rest of the band as "hired hands trying to cope with the old songs" - ignorant chicken **** mother****ers...

and why the hell is Bumblefoot labelled as "alternative/nu-metal/rap" the ****'s going on?

however saying that, keeping my biases against Axl aside, I really hope this GnR kicks off and stays alive. With the imminent release of the album, and GnR now having a tour underway, and with Ron Thal on guitars, this is the chance that shred might have been looking for, to come to the forefront. GnR back in the day was synonymous with Slash's ultra-cool image and his trademark guitar sound. Hopefully Ron Thal will capitalize on that and break new ground (which I have no doubt regarding, considering he'd with all due respect, pwn Slash multiple times over).

Gman400
05-13-2006, 11:49 PM
Never heard him before but maybe I will actually care about Guns n Roses now.

Godly Moose
05-14-2006, 12:22 AM
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Bumblefoot a.k.a Ron Thal is the new guitarist for GnR
this isnt official but he has played a show with the band as the guitarist. Not sure how to feel about this but anyway discuss...

http://bumbleforum.lesvilles.org/viewtopic.php?t=1798&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 link to bbf forums


HOLY FUCKING SHIT?! From Buckethead to Thal, are they trying to pick like the best guitarist ever? This will be great, because he will get so much publicity.



Never heard him before but maybe I will actually care about Guns n Roses now.


You're in the shred forum and don't know who Thal is? Please check up on him, he is a god among men.

splice
05-14-2006, 12:27 AM
thats...........different


il give it half a year

mexican_shred
05-14-2006, 12:47 AM
look what i found!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qZktrrqT1A0&search=Stars%20Hearing%20Aid

hear-n-aid Stars lol. Malmsteen was in it. Did not know that.

priest.fan.
05-14-2006, 01:36 AM
On a side note, I was wondering if anyone has played a Jackson RR1 and if so, is it a good guitar for shredding(uhhg..I hate using that hollow word)? I had the chance to play around with one, but I want the opinions of those of you who know how to actually play and have had this opportunity.

well, I have an rr5, and I'd imagine they would feel similar... and its an awesome guitar, really comfy neck.

TheUltimateSin
05-14-2006, 02:01 AM
look what i found!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qZktrrqT1A0&search=Stars%20Hearing%20Aid

hear-n-aid Stars lol. Malmsteen was in it. Did not know that.

yeah. I posted that same video in the uploads thread with a very similar remark :D


^@priest: I knew they would feel simliar. I was just curious to know if the RR1 was a good one because the RR1 is supposedly made with the finest specs and materials of any of Jackson's RR models. So I was going to consider investing in one as soon as I got good enough to play one(and had sufficient funds to do so), providing that it is a good reliable guitar based off of personal experiences of you fine shredders who may have played one.

whew that was a mouthful...er..handful...err...whatever :p:

Stratwizard
05-14-2006, 04:04 AM
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Bumblefoot a.k.a Ron Thal is the new guitarist for GnR
this isnt official but he has played a show with the band as the guitarist. Not sure how to feel about this but anyway discuss...

http://bumbleforum.lesvilles.org/viewtopic.php?t=1798&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 link to bbf forums

Well, congrats to Ron then. I wonder how he will fit in the band...

mr_clapton
05-14-2006, 04:07 AM
i'm not too concerned with how well he will fit in the band or whatever, real GnR died long ago what i have decided i am happy about is that such a large amount of people will be exposed to Ron and hopefully reignite interest in playing guitar well

Scorzerci
05-14-2006, 07:13 AM
well if it's true then I'm probably going to go to a GnR gig (december over here)

Stratwizard
05-14-2006, 10:10 AM
I'd definately want to hear what kind of role Ron has in GNR. Cause, if he's somewhere in the background playing rhytym, it isn't really worth the hype... :(

trollblod
05-14-2006, 11:59 AM
^He has some solospots, just like buckethead used to have, apperently

HammerForce
05-15-2006, 10:04 AM
What do you guys think of tubescreamers? Oh, and what do they actually do? My mate suggested that i got one but i thought i should find outwhat they do first, as he didn't know..

ILoveHarmonics
05-15-2006, 10:29 AM
^Strange to get advice from someone who doesn't know what the tubesreamer does. Wel it's an overdrive. It's said that it is the best overdrive for getting that crunchy sound out of a tube amp. So if you don't have a tube amp it is probably not a pedal you're looking for when you consider the price of it.

Scorzerci
05-15-2006, 11:50 AM
I'd definately want to hear what kind of role Ron has in GNR. Cause, if he's somewhere in the background playing rhytym, it isn't really worth the hype... :(
yeah thats a good point, but I just can't imagine Thal being purely a rythm guitarist...

priest.fan.
05-15-2006, 04:01 PM
well, I'm off to see yngwie in toronto :)

PooKoo
05-15-2006, 04:03 PM
bastard

Scorzerci
05-15-2006, 04:49 PM
^ditto

apocalypse13
05-15-2006, 05:32 PM
:haha

canadianshred
05-15-2006, 06:01 PM
Dammit priest y couldn't you give me a ride

Godly Moose
05-15-2006, 07:08 PM
well, I'm off to see yngwie in toronto :)


>=O

priest.fan.
05-16-2006, 08:51 AM
ha, show was fantastic. Yngwie is sooooo cool live.

I got a signed CD and a guitar pick :D

I also really really liked the opening band, "the mag project", and I got their CD. I'll upload a few of their tracks later, these guys are really talented.

and the entire place smelled like weed the entire night, lol.

splice
05-16-2006, 12:32 PM
sweeeeet......maybe one day il make it to a yngwie show :(

Freepower
05-16-2006, 01:19 PM
I plan to as well, but you guys should see this...

http://www.cmhrecords.com/web/page.asp?pgs=product&catid=1&id=1017

So im browsing the EG forum, when...


I'm sorry, I don't mean to flood the thread with stuff from that other forum, but this is just too damn funny!

:haha

http://www.guitar.com/Discuss/img/100/4448303/m4452621-7068.jpg

Scorzerci
05-16-2006, 04:29 PM
:haha

seljer
05-16-2006, 04:41 PM
look what i found!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qZktrrqT1A0&search=Stars%20Hearing%20Aid

hear-n-aid Stars lol. Malmsteen was in it. Did not know that.

That is the highest concentration of hair metal thats humanly possible

splice
05-16-2006, 05:04 PM
I plan to as well, but you guys should see this...

http://www.cmhrecords.com/web/page.asp?pgs=product&catid=1&id=1017

So im browsing the EG forum, when...







cant wait to hear "eruption" blue grass style

:haha :haha

Freepower
05-16-2006, 06:04 PM
^ it sounds pretty sweet, didja check it out?

PooKoo
05-16-2006, 06:14 PM
http://www.cmhrecords.com/web/mp3/9090/Eruption.MP3

SuburbanCowboy
05-16-2006, 06:17 PM
I plan to as well, but you guys should see this...

http://www.cmhrecords.com/web/page.asp?pgs=product&catid=1&id=1017



I didnt really like any of it. Nor have I ever seen the point of bluegrass tribute albums. I guess if that's your thing, then whatever. But to me they all sound like crap (ever heard the metallica bluegrass cd - yeech!).

Freepower
05-16-2006, 06:33 PM
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=359746

AX7owns thread, and modship prizes. Never forget.

(and obviously, there are porn links to HQ genius for anyone who votes me for anything, my need for attention is such i have no pride. :( )

Beckerism
05-16-2006, 09:25 PM
Amma just got accepted into the power tab archive, and End of the Beginning is next. It took me over 2 hours to make finishing touches with it, and here will be the final product -

http://www.powertabs.net/tablature-4711/ta...-22199-6365.ptb (http://www.powertabs.net/tablature-4711/tab-1712-22199-6365.ptb)

(Chords in parenthesis indicate the implied chord of the arpeggio, and/or the chord progression in the background.)

Thought you guys might appreciate that. :)

Rawf ^ at the a7xowns domination at noobery.

apocalypse13
05-16-2006, 09:50 PM
ha, show was fantastic. Yngwie is sooooo cool live.

I got a signed CD and a guitar pick :D

I also really really liked the opening band, "the mag project", and I got their CD. I'll upload a few of their tracks later, these guys are really talented.

and the entire place smelled like weed the entire night, lol.He is amazing live.

And how do you know what weed smells like priest? :no:

priest.fan.
05-16-2006, 10:40 PM
He is amazing live.

And how do you know what weed smells like priest? :no:

he is indeed :D I love how he does so many cool tricks and makes it seem so easy. I also loved how he kept throwing/losing his pick :haha he must have gone through 10 of those mic-stand pick holders.

and because several of my friends smoke it. I honestly don't, in fact I haven't done many drugs at all (just alchohol, and never too much).

alabamajustin
05-16-2006, 11:01 PM
hi

Beckerism
05-16-2006, 11:14 PM
hi

autograph plz.

mexican_shred
05-16-2006, 11:16 PM
That is the highest concentration of hair metal thats humanly possible
...Hmm..never saw it that way,...

apocalypse13
05-17-2006, 04:41 PM
he is indeed :D I love how he does so many cool tricks and makes it seem so easy. I also loved how he kept throwing/losing his pick :haha he must have gone through 10 of those mic-stand pick holders.

and because several of my friends smoke it. I honestly don't, in fact I haven't done many drugs at all (just alchohol, and never too much).
lol

Does anyone know what happened to my little picture last night?

Did anyone see it one here?

Maybe a mod deleted it...<_<

Scorzerci
05-17-2006, 05:22 PM
no?

hippieboy444
05-17-2006, 05:34 PM
Can anyone play behind there neck and shred?? I can a little(not to good) but its pretty easy. The easiest is to use penotanic scales.

Scorzerci
05-17-2006, 05:53 PM
Never tried it, but it's surprisingly easy IMO to play something behind your neck (well the last time I tried it at least).

apocalypse13
05-17-2006, 08:13 PM
Quotes from Bruce Lee's friends
These are some quotes from Bruce Lee's friends about his feats of strength: [10]

Kwame Safo
"Bruce, undoubtedly could do amazing things, things that would be deemed alien to you and I."
Chuck Norris
"Lee, pound for pound, might well have been one of the strongest men in the world, and certainly one of the quickest."
Doug Palmer
"Bruce was like the Michael Jordan or Muhammad Ali in his prime, somebody who stood above everyone else. It's not that the other martial artists weren't good. It's just that this guy was great."
Herb Jackson
"The biggest problem in designing equipment for Bruce was that he'd go through it so damn fast. I had to reinforce his wooden dummy with automobile parts so he could train on it without breaking it. I had started to build him a mobile dummy that could actually attack and retreat to better simulate "Live" combat, sadly Bruce died before the machine was built. It would have been strung up by big high-tension cables that I was going to connect between two posts, one on either side of his backyard. The reason for the machine was simply because no one could stand up to his full force punches and kicks, Bruce's strength and skill had evolved to point where he had to fight machines."
"He never trained in a gym, he thought he could concentrate better at home, so he worked out on his patio. He had a small weight set, something like a standard 100lb cast-iron set. In addition, he had a 310lb Olympic barbell set, a bench press and some dumbbells, both solid and adjustable."
"Bruce used to beat all other comers at this type of wrist wrestling and even joked that he wanted to be world champion at it."
James Coburn
"Bruce and I were training out on my patio one day, we were using this giant bag for side kicks, I guess it weighed about 150lbs. Bruce looked at it and just went Bang, it shot up out into the lawn about 15ft in the air, it then busted in the middle. It was filled with little bits and pieces of rag, we were picking up bits of rag for months."
Jesse Glover
"When he could do push ups on his thumbs and push ups with 250lbs on his back, he moved on to other exercises."
"The power that Lee was capable of instantly generating was absolutely frightening to his fellow martial artists, especially his sparring partners, and his speed was equally intimidating. We timed him with an electric timer once, and Bruce's quickest movements were around five hundredths of a second, his slowest were around eight hundredths. This was punching from a relaxed position with his hands down at his sides from a distance between 18-24 inches. Not only was he amazingly quick, but he could read you too. He could pick up on small subtle things that you were getting ready to do and then he'd just shut you down."
"Bruce was gravitating more and more toward weight training as he would use the weighted wall pulleys and do series upon series with them. He'd also grab one of the old rusty barbells that littered the floor at the YMCA and would roll it up and down his forearms, which is no small feat when you consider that the barbell weighed 70lbs."
Jim Kelly
"Bruce, well I can basically say this. I have been around a lot of great martial arts fighters. Worked out with them. Fought them in tournaments. In my opinion Bruce Lee was the greatest martial artist who ever lived. To me thats my opinion. I think Bruce Lee is the greatest martial artist ever. I don't think anybody is in his class."
Joe Lewis
"Bruce was incredibly strong for his size. He could take a 75lb barbell and from a standing position with the barbell held flush against his chest, he could slowly stick his arms out, lock them and hold the barbell there for 20 seconds, that's pretty damn tough for a guy who at the time only weighed 138lbs. I know 200lb weight lifters who can't do that."
" I never stood in front of another human who was as quick as him. He not only had the quickness but he had the inner confidence to muster the conviction to do so. I've seen others who had the speed but lack conviction or vice versa. He was like Ali, he had both.I stood before both of these men, so I know."
"If Bruce Lee wasn´t the greatest martial artist of all time, then certainly he is the number one candidate." (Source)
Leo Fong
"Yes, I was on the receiving end of his side kick. It was like getting hit with a truck."
Mito Uhera
"Bruce always felt that if your stomach wasn't developed, then you had no business doing any hard sparring."
James Rage
"I think its important for people to realize that he was not only one of history's greatest martial artists, but also one of the finest athletes period. His devotion to physical exercise and healthy lifestyle was mind-boggling."

-----CREDIT--->Wikipedia

-----COMMENT---> :eek:

Erc
05-17-2006, 08:51 PM
Wow, thats physically inspiring...

Damn......damn......wow....damn....crazy.

On a side note, I think I've finally got it, the picking technique. The point where there is so little tension fast licks are feeling effortless. Orgasmic feeling btw.

splice
05-17-2006, 09:28 PM
:D alas chuck norris has found his way back into the shred forum via a random post from apoc.....





o yea ive got 200 dollars im gonna blow tomorrow........i basically have **** for tone due to my peavey backstage amp with a pod :( im looking into getting a better tone maybe through a pedal but i dk any good ones.........some one please enlighten me

TheUltimateSin
05-17-2006, 10:25 PM
:batman:
Alas! My random post of the month! Yeah Baby, yeah (http://media.putfile.com/Super-Mario-Yeah-baby)

:liplick:

Stratwizard
05-18-2006, 02:35 AM
Can anyone play behind there neck and shred?? I can a little(not to good) but its pretty easy. The easiest is to use penotanic scales.

It's uncomfortable as hell.

gatpakermac
05-18-2006, 03:52 AM
Are you guys fans of Dragonforce or Angra? im looking (like i dont have enough awesome music to listen to) for more bands like these. kind of speed thrash metal/prog.

gatpakermac
05-18-2006, 04:00 AM
iv gone from dream theater to these bands and im god damn addicted to it. if you havent heard then do it now!

Kikzi
05-18-2006, 04:26 AM
Are you guys fans of Dragonforce or Angra? im looking (like i dont have enough awesome music to listen to) for more bands like these. kind of speed thrash metal/prog.

Sonata Arctica and Hammerfall, are pretty much like Dragonforce and Angra.

Matt_Malmsteen
05-18-2006, 06:46 AM
Can anyone play behind there neck and shred?? I can a little(not to good) but its pretty easy.

I can't, my arm hits my bridge(edge pro) and everything goes to hell.

Are you guys fans of Dragonforce or Angra? im looking (like i dont have enough awesome music to listen to) for more bands like these. kind of speed thrash metal/prog.

Try Stratovariious, Avantasia, Helloween, Luca Turilli and Rhapsody for the more power metally stuff like Dragonforce but less repetitive.

wil
05-18-2006, 10:37 AM
I can play behind my head, but i really dont like doing it---why play sloppier in order to 'show off' with a gimmick that only impresses people who know NOTHING about guitar?

laser fret
05-18-2006, 12:41 PM
dragonforce rock ass so does hammerfall manowar raxer x nitro i could go on

Resiliance
05-18-2006, 12:43 PM
Saying Dragonforce in the same sentence as those other bands is an insult :(

PooKoo
05-18-2006, 02:24 PM
I can play behind my head, but i really dont like doing it---why play sloppier in order to 'show off' with a gimmick that only impresses people who know NOTHING about guitar?

i can sweep behind my head! very simple stuff though.

Impresses wannabe shredders.

Matt_Malmsteen
05-18-2006, 03:16 PM
Saying Dragonforce in the same sentence as those other bands is an insult :(

Well yeah true...but it's the only bands out of the ones he mentioned that have that power metally feel.......I'm sorry to whoever that insulted :(

seljer
05-18-2006, 04:09 PM
i can sweep behind my head! very simple stuff though.

Impresses wannabe shredders.

yeah, but can you sweep with your teeth like paul gilbert? :p:

apocalypse13
05-18-2006, 05:37 PM
This thread has almost 5000 posts!
The hilarious thing is that it has taken significantly longer than SU, a much smaller site.

canadianshred
05-18-2006, 08:23 PM
ya but SU's is a spam threat so its obviously going to go faster

PooKoo
05-18-2006, 08:34 PM
im fairly sure all of us are going to want that 5000 post, even resi, though he wont admit it.

canadianshred
05-18-2006, 08:39 PM
ya, so lets hurry things up and spam our way to 5 000 :)

TheUltimateSin
05-18-2006, 08:40 PM
^^Well what can you expect? He'll probably fly in under the radar and snipe that 5000th post out from under our noses :p:

Godly Moose
05-18-2006, 08:45 PM
IT'S MINE MOTHER FUCKERS.

:grrr: :lurk: :grrr:

canadianshred
05-18-2006, 08:47 PM
well i got the 1000 post in the old upload thead :P I wish it was still here

TheUltimateSin
05-18-2006, 08:48 PM
^^
:eek:

Doust thou bite thine thumb at thee?! Have at thee, vile fiend!

splice
05-18-2006, 08:51 PM
yay inverely

Righteous
05-18-2006, 09:03 PM
I'm beting some new person who doesn't know what's going on is going to snag the 5000th post, it'd be a little ironic, admittedly.

canadianshred
05-18-2006, 09:05 PM
ya thats wat i did on SU

TheUltimateSin
05-18-2006, 09:31 PM
I'm beting some new person who doesn't know what's going on is going to snag the 5000th post, it'd be a little ironic, admittedly.

Yeah, that is highly likely to happen. It'll probably be like

"S4r3d is c00l!!1!"

and then we'll never see that person in this forum again. ever.

splice
05-18-2006, 10:59 PM
i swear if this keeps me up all night il go mad

TheUltimateSin
05-18-2006, 11:15 PM
well..i can guarentee i won't be getting the glory. im way too friggen tired. maybe by morning, i will get lucky and it will be at 4,999 :p:






probably not

splice
05-18-2006, 11:18 PM
me either..........


i have finals at school in like ten hours :(

Godly Moose
05-19-2006, 12:00 AM
Not me I live on West Coast it's only 9 O' Clock. I'll do it... even if it requrires sextuple posting.

Righteous
05-19-2006, 12:12 AM
West coast has its plusses hehehe
9:12

splice
05-19-2006, 12:42 AM
central time biatches 11:45

PooKoo
05-19-2006, 06:38 AM
Yeah, that is highly likely to happen. It'll probably be like

"S4r3d is c00l!!1!"

and then we'll never see that person in this forum again. ever.

itll be resi.

HammerForce
05-19-2006, 07:58 AM
^ that would be strangely ironic, and funny :P

TheUltimateSin
05-19-2006, 08:06 AM
wtf? I'm gone for like 8 hours and this still hasn't hit 5000 yet? what happened, someone get lazy?

wil
05-19-2006, 09:04 AM
Before my computer died, i downloaded a video called ' The Blues-from Rock to Jazz' by a guy named DOn Mock--who i believe had somehing to do with the REH hotline video series--i was expecting the usual 12 bar basic stuff, but boy was i surprised and he can REALLY play?

ANyone else seen this/heard of him?

Scorzerci
05-19-2006, 10:03 AM
I will get it!

SlashHammett
05-19-2006, 10:12 AM
speed metal symphony vs rising force?

Scorzerci
05-19-2006, 11:01 AM
Rising Force

NoiseTakeOver
05-19-2006, 11:01 AM
Speed metal symphony.

PooKoo
05-19-2006, 11:10 AM
neither really, i never got into cacaphony, singer was too big a turn off and the guitar, though amazing, is sometimes just too much nothing for me. Whereas yngwie is a god, his vocal tracks are usually subpar. I'd go with perpetual burn or one of macalpines old albums maybe.

Scorzerci
05-19-2006, 11:15 AM
:mad:

TheUltimateSin
05-19-2006, 11:16 AM
?!

It's mine mofo's!!

PooKoo
05-19-2006, 11:17 AM
I do believe i won my friend.
On the school computer, with black people fighting all around me.

But nice try.

Scorzerci
05-19-2006, 11:17 AM
I can play this game too!

PooKoo
05-19-2006, 11:18 AM
what game?