The ONLY Pink Floyd thread

[metalfan#3]

What's so great about Dark Side of the Moon? I'm not trolling, I just don't get it. There are a few pretty good guitar solos, but overall it's pretty boring to me. Why does everyone like it so much?


I used to have the same feelings as you, now it's my favorite album.

Don't think of it as individual songs, think of it as an entire piece that needs to be heard in full. For full enjoyment, turn off all the lights in a room, and play it as loud as you can and focus on the music. See it performed live, if possible. You won't regret it.

[J-Smack]

I used to have the same feelings as you, now it's my favorite album.


Ha, me, too. Did we all feel this way when we first listened to it?

[shwrestler]

Ha, me, too. Did we all feel this way when we first listened to it?

no i didnt hah i always loved that album

[psychodelia]

thanks for the Time tips, doesn't seem to be any 2 steppers, but the tab i have may be wrong, i'll keep it in mind. i can pull them off, depending on the area on the neck, string etc.

Hmm, yeah, I think there's actually just a 1.5 step bend towards the end that I have trouble with since it's on the 4th fret. Now that I think about it, it's the Another Brick in the Wall pt II solo that has the bend that I'm thinking of.

A lot of Dark Side of the Moon has kind of a proto-ambient style that makes me lose interest.

At the risk of sounding ridiculously picky, just because something is relaxing doesn't make it ambient... I would say that some Pink Floyd could fit in the ambient category, but not most of Dark Side.

I don't think the album is as great as I once thought it was, but it's still a very solid work top to bottom, in my opinion, with some pretty great production. It generally lulls me into a more contemplative state, which in turn makes me more receptive to the grander, more epic parts when they come in.

[werty22]

so i take it you don't like echoes? if you don't like the ambient...what kinda floyd do you like? Barrett era psychedlic pop? good stuff btw.
Actually, I do like Echoes. Not the studio version though. I like the version from Live at Pompeii. But I do often find myself fast-forwarding through some parts of it, so I can't really say I enjoy the entire song.

I do like the Barret era, but I also like some scattered Gilmour songs. Although TBH I think I mostly like them because of the guitar tones.
At the risk of sounding ridiculously picky, just because something is relaxing doesn't make it ambient... I would say that some Pink Floyd could fit in the ambient category, but not most of Dark Side.
Yeah, I know it's not ambient, but there are lots of long instrumental sections that don't really have distinct melodies. And it seems likely that it influenced ambient music, hence the "proto" prefix.

Maybe I would have to have heard Dark Side in the early '70s to really understand its groundbreaking-ness.

[clayonfire]

Dark side of the Moon was the first full album I ever listened to by Pink Floyd; I loved it. I just found it really soothing...and one of my friends is insisting I sing "The Great Gig in the Sky" sometime...which could be very interesting since I'm not much of a singer....

Kinda off-topic (but still Pink Floyd related), I showed one of my other friends (a rather innocent friend, who had at that point never listened to Pink Floyd before) "The Trial" on youtube...needless to say, She said it reminded her of Alice in Wonderland, which she is scared of...So I showed her the "Wish you Were Here" album to assure her that Pink Floyd wasn't all "weird" songs like "The Trial" (which to me is an amazing song).

[metalfan#3]

'The Trial' is just set up that way because it's such an important part in the saga of The Wall.

[BrainDamage]

^^I might go so far as to say The Trial is my favorite song on the Wall.

i'm trying to learn the solo to Time, as a challenge. I'm taking it slow, but does anyone have any tips for it? Practice your bends and vibrato. It's not a particularly hard solo, you just have to be able to nail the bends.

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Don't think of it as individual songs, think of it as an entire piece that needs to be heard in full. For full enjoyment, turn off all the lights in a room, and play it as loud as you can and focus on the music. See it performed live, if possible. You won't regret it. That pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Hmm, yeah, I think there's actually just a 1.5 step bend towards the end that I have trouble with since it's on the 4th fret. Now that I think about it, it's the Another Brick in the Wall pt II solo that has the bend that I'm thinking of. Yeah, there are no two step bends in Time, but there are two 1.5 step bends. As you mentioned, ABITW Pt. 2 has the pain in the ass two step bends.

[SeXbOx360]

Just Buy the Darkside 0f the Moon Tab Book and it will tell you everything

[stonegolem13]

Hmm, yeah, I think there's actually just a 1.5 step bend towards the end that I have trouble with since it's on the 4th fret. Now that I think about it, it's the Another Brick in the Wall pt II solo that has the bend that I'm thinking of.

Sounds like you need some bendier strings ;)

I think you need to stop using MP3 Players and computers and use proper record players and vinyls (or CDs, I guess).

:p:

I do use CDs :p: but yeah, I could probably do with a few more vinyls :)

[psychodelia]

Sounds like you need some bendier strings ;)

I think not. :p:

I like a bit of a beefier sound, but I'm not Stevie Ray enough to bend 'em all over the place.

[Thefallofman]

but yeah, I could probably do with a few more vinyls :)
You could always do with a few more records.

[bg-payne]

I'll always regret the fact that at my very first (and last) show of Pink Floyd, I was a bit too young to fully appreciate all their stuff... I didn't even know about The Wall... I only knew about DSotM, The Animals and WYWH :( </3
Anyways, I'll always remember how I near to Roger Waters and how, at the end of the show, I runned all around wearing only my Pink Floyd's DSotM boxers and the security had to run after me, hahaha! I have some pictures of it (but without the security guy :P).

xD

Anyways, could someone explain me in what way I should appreciate Ummagumma studio album? To my ear, it's like, one of the worst album of the history, lol.

Oh, and does someone know about some other groups that have the same style as Pink Floyd? I'm searching for more Rock/Blues bands... Here is a list of the groups I know of, tell me if there's missing some:

Pink Floyd
Genesis
Led Zeppelin
The Beatles
YES
Rush
The Police (Best-Of only please? The rest seriously suck)
The Doors
The Eagles
Aerosmith
Babe Ruth
David Gilmour (solo carrier)
Dire Straits (except maybe some country stuff)
Eric Clapton
AC/DC
Albert King
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Bon Jovi
CCR <-- VERY nice solo's!
Don McLean
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
JET
Mike Oldfield
REM
Simon and Garfunkel
Van Halen
Guns N' Roses
Jack Johnson (lol? no, it's not rock)
Jethro Tull
Jimmy Hendrix
Matt Uelman (lolwut?! D2 music?)
Nirvana
Queen
Supertramp
Deep Purple
System Of A Down (only the smooth ones)
Tangerine Dream <------------- This is a very unknown progressive rock group (near psychedelic). It's a bit like Pink Flyod; MUST SEE! (Recommended album: Stratosfear)
The Rolling Stones (only their Best-Of's)
U2
Gentle Giant (some songs are weird because they take the voice as an instrument, but still, they made some awesome beat and songs :D )
Red Hot Chili Peppers (some (5 maximum :P) are freaking good and some seriously suck)

P.S. Has anyone ever read the DSotM's analysis? Me, it's in my iPod's notes :P

[Thefallofman]

Hardly any of those bands are Floyd-esque at all. I'd recommend Airbag and Thrice.

[SeXbOx360]

Bg-Payne you forgot Roger Waters solo career and Chicago

[J-Smack]

Bg-Payne you forgot Roger Waters solo career and Chicago

Like thefallofman said, hardly any of these bands bare any resemblance to Pink Floyd, and adding Chicago to bg's list just makes it even more irrevelant

[SeXbOx360]

Yeah but he say a list of rock/blues bands like CCR, Boston, Rod Stewert, etc.

[bg-payne]

That wasn't a list of groups like Pink Floyd xD
I should have made it clear, lol... anyways, I'm just searching for more good old rock/blues groups ^^
And how's the Waters' solo career?
And what about Airbag and Thrice?
Chicago?

[A Rolling Stone]

^Waters solo career is absolutely amazing. My favorite would be between Radio K.A.O.S and The Pros and Cons of Hitchiking.
Phenomenal.
Imo, David's first solo album is his best.

[SeXbOx360]

That wasn't a list of groups like Pink Floyd xD
I should have made it clear, lol... anyways, I'm just searching for more good old rock/blues groups ^^
And how's the Waters' solo career?
And what about Airbag and Thrice?
Chicago?

Dude put those on ur list also put Rod Stewert, Boston, Paul McCartney solo career, and John Lennon also man.

[Just Andrew]

^Waters solo career is absolutely amazing. My favorite would be between Radio K.A.O.S and The Pros and Cons of Hitchiking.
Phenomenal.
Imo, David's first solo album is his best.Aye, The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking is easily one of the greatest albums made by an artist who "went solo."

[bg-payne]

I'll check it out for Rod StewArt, Boston, Paul, John and Waters ;)
Personally, On An Island is, to me, the best album of Gilmour's solo career.

P.S. How comes this isn't a sticky in the forum? :O

[BrainDamage]

^^Because we have seven stickies already, and we decided against stickied band threads a long time ago.

Aye, The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking is easily one of the greatest albums made by an artist who "went solo." Eh, that's debatable. Waters' solo albums are good, but nothing spectacular if you ask me.

[SeXbOx360]

My Uncle has gone to every pink floyd concert he's a huge fan like HUGE!!!!!! so am I

[stonegolem13]

I'll check it out for Rod StewArt, Boston, Paul, John and Waters ;)
Personally, On An Island is, to me, the best album of Gilmour's solo career.

P.S. How comes this isn't a sticky in the forum? :O

It's pointless having a stickied band thread since they almost always stay about the top if they are worth discussing :p:

[Just Andrew]

Eh, that's debatable. Waters' solo albums are good, but nothing spectacular if you ask me.In fairness, they probably are. However, I've always enjoyed them. I couldn't get into K.A.O.S too much, but I'm talking about The Pros and Cons, which I think is a pretty superb album ;) .

[BrainDamage]

^^Pros and Cons is definitely his best, but is it among the greatest albums made by an artist who went solo? I don't think so.

[A Rolling Stone]

^^Its in my top ten for sure. But I guess opinions are just that.

[Just Andrew]

^^Pros and Cons is definitely his best, but is it among the greatest albums made by an artist who went solo? I don't think so.Yeah, it's among my top 10, but a lot of people dislike that I think The Madcap Laughs is also one of the best solo albums. So, I tend to differ in opinions a lot.

Meh :shrug:

[A Rolling Stone]

^I love the Madcap Laughs also, much better than Syd's self-titled imo.
When compared to Roger and David's stuff though, it's sort of in the middle to me.

[therussian]

I was utterly dissapointed by Madcap Laughs. Not a bad album, per se, but not really a good one

[Just Andrew]

I'm biased towards anything Syd did, to be honest. He could belch into a microphone for 3 minutes and I would praise it :D.

[SeXbOx360]

I was utterly dissapointed by Madcap Laughs. Not a bad album, per se, but not really a good one

Dissapointed??!! the Madcap Laughs was probably Syds best album

[metalfan#3]

My Uncle has gone to every pink floyd concert he's a huge fan like HUGE!!!!!! so am I

Every concert?

:haha

[A Rolling Stone]

^^:haha

I just noticed that.
His Uncle must be hardcore old/sleepless.

[SeXbOx360]

^^:haha

I just noticed that.
His Uncle must be hardcore old/sleepless.
Well maybe I over exteneded that i didn't mean it like that :eek:

[therussian]

Dissapointed??!! the Madcap Laughs was probably Syds best album
Loved "Piper", am indifferent towards Madcap Laughs.

[voteforpedro36]

On the whole DSotM dislike a couple pages back:

The first time I listened to it was right after I listened to WYWH and The Wall. I really liked WYWH, so I listened to The Wall. Honestly I thought that other than the "hit" songs (Comfortably Numb, Mother, ABitW, Hey You) it wasn't very good. But I still listened to Dark Side of The Moon thinking it was going to be great. Unfortunately, I did not enjoy it. I went a couple months and listened to it again- and wow, I really like it now. It's probably my favorite album atm, and I love Brian Damage/Eclipse too. For some reason whenever I hear the lines "I'll see you on the dark side of the moon" I get chills. But 'whatevs'.

[J-Smack]

^^Same here with the chills at that lyric.

And, yeah, I listened to DSOTM first, buying it because I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. So, I got the album I saw on T-Shirts. I completely hated it, besides Money. Then I heard the song Wish You Were Here. I thought "Pink Floyd isn't all bad." Then I started to philosophise. :liplick:

I thought that some of the lyrics made sense off of DSOTM. I read the booklet with the lyrics and thought THIS IS AMAZING!!! :wtf:

Then, yeah, I got Wish You Were Here, Meddle, and The Wall. All of which blew me out of my mind.

[Karvid]

I think the first thing I heard from Pink Floyd was their Pulse album/DVD. My dad had told me about Pink Floyd so I figured I should listen to them. I wasn't impressed.
A few months later, I came across my dad's copy of WYWH, so I decided to listen to it, and after a few listens, I loved the whole album. The only other albums that my dad owned were Division Bell and AMLIR, so I listened to those but I wasn't all that impressed.
I finally decided to start listening to more Pink Floyd and they quickly became one of my favorite bands. My dad got me both the Wall and DSOTM for my birthday, and l loved both right away.

I then got Atom Heart Mother and Meddle. Still not a huge fan of Atom Heart Mother, but Meddle is amazing.

[baylewis]

This is a Pink Floyd thread right, so I take that would be a few fans of old British Sitcoms as well. I thought to myself the other day when I was listening to Dark Side of the Moon that the beginning of Money (with the cash register noise) sounds a lot like the opening song of Are you Being Served? The album was released about the same time the first show ever screened. So does anyone know what the story is? Did Pink Floyd copy it or was it the other way around? I know it may seem trivial to some, but I am interested because am I a fan of both the album and the sitcom.

[stonegolem13]

^The album was devised a good year before it was released so I'd say DSOTM was probably first

[Thefallofman]

and I love Brian Damage
This (http://misfitscentral.com/bios/brian-keats.php) Brian Damage?


:p:

[sam21]

I love English Band and Pink Floyd is one of them. More than 300 of their albums are sold world wide.

[therussian]

I love English Band and Pink Floyd is one of them. More than 300 of their albums are sold world wide.
Unfortunately for me, we don't have a "My mind is being blown right now" smilie.

Shame

[SeXbOx360]

Well all i can say about that is.........go get that checked out

[A Rolling Stone]

Now I can officially play Shine On You Crazy Diamond parts 1-5 all the way through :p:

Someone give me an e-cookie...for having no life :(

[SeXbOx360]

Now I can officially play Shine On You Crazy Diamond parts 1-5 all the way through :p:

Someone give me an e-cookie...for having no life :(

I'll give you's a cookie but for not having a life..... but for kicking sooo much @$$ man, that's my favorite song by the Floyd :D

[talia.]

We're talking about them in my class as we speak.

[A Rolling Stone]

I'll give you's a cookie but for not having a life..... but for kicking sooo much @$$ man, that's my favorite song by the Floyd :D

Thank You, kind Sir.
If I was a pit monkey, that would sigg'd :D

[shineonu]

Anyone ever see the Floyd, Waters or Gilmour live? I missed Waters when he came to Australia and always wondered what it's like to witness such an event. Share your experiences if you have any.

Ok - I will admit that I am ancient. There is a benefit to that tho in that I have seen Floyd live. As a matter of fact I have seen them multiple times. Including the "WYWH", "Animals" and "The Wall" tours. Even I am not old enough to have seen the Dark Side tour.

At any rate...it is hard to put into words what a Floyd show is like. Pulse will give you an idea of the granduer that is a live Floyd show but of course we are missing Roger.

Due to my age I have seen a lot of the "greatest" classic rock bands live but honestly no one does it as well as Floyd. It isnt a concert...it is sooo much more than that. On top of the incredible music, the lights, the production of the stage show is also the fact that they play so tightly together that it is hard to tell the difference between the live show and the studio master as far as musical quality is concerned. I have really never heard another band that sounds so true live.

I admit it saddens me slightly to know that a lot of the youngsters will never get a chance to see them perform live. RIP - Rick Wright.

Indeed...IMO they are in a class by themselves.

[stonegolem13]

^You make me so jealous :(

[SeXbOx360]

Thank You, kind Sir.
If I was a pit monkey, that would sigg'd :D

lol you said pit monkey :D

[Illuminated]

Pink Floyd is amazing, but their best album was by far Dark Side of the Moon. That album kicked some serious @$$.

[SeXbOx360]

Pink Floyd is amazing, but their best album was by far Dark Side of the Moon. That album kicked some serious @$$.

Dude Darkside of the Moon is the most amazing album on the face of the f-in planet :cool:

[J-Smack]

^^ Yup...

They're pretty awesome, huh?

[andersoncouncil]

I've been thinking about the similarities of The Wall and Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars.

[A Rolling Stone]

^Elaborate.

[andersoncouncil]

Well, mostly how the concepts behind the albums are similar.

Ziggy Stardust and Pink are both rock stars. However, Pink is nearly destroyed by his isolation from other humans and it's more of an inner struggle and story. Ziggy is destroyed by outside influences, such as fans and drugs. Pink doesn't meet with destruction, Ziggy does. (The Wall's story is a little more developed and easier to read so it's hard to know if I'm spot on or not.)

Thoughts?

[xVDHx]

Shame you can't make threads about 'Floyd outside here, hard to discuss a single theme about Pink Floyd.

Anyways

Pink Floyd is pretty much split, but roughly, we still have two main characters left: David Gilmour, and Roger Waters. Which one is your favorite and why?

Mine is definitely Gilmour. He's an excellent musician, and I think that his lyrics are a little more . . . thoughtful than Waters', plus that I think that his music style is generally better, so much warmer and relaxing.
However, he is not very cooperative when it comes to Waters. . .they needed Bob Geldof to persuade Gilmour to come to the Live 8 Pink Floyd reunion

[A Rolling Stone]

Pink doesn't meet with destruction, Ziggy does. (The Wall's story is a little more developed and easier to read so it's hard to know if I'm spot on or not.)

Thoughts?

Well, you can't really say that Pink didn't meet with destruction since at the end of the film his actual fate is left unknown.
Also, I always comprehended the Ziggy Stardust pseudo-story type deal much easier just because there wasmuch less symbolism and things left to imagination to me.
Thats just my two cents on it anyhow.

And to the guy above me, I always preferred Waters. Though his
douchebaggery (<--thats copyrighted) was apparent, his music was much more powerful. I'd take his solo work over David's in most cases, but not every time. David's first solo record is amazing, don't get me wrong. But his other two are lacking...at best. Roger however has had solid stuff all around.
Besides, just look at The Final Cut (One of my top 5 albums of all time) and The Wall (Top 10). Those two were all Roger apart from 3 songs on the Wall, and they're both amazing. I'm not dissing David. He's an amazing guitarist and an alright writer, just check out Momentary Lapse (Don't kill me Matt) or The Division Bell. But to me Roger was always the driving force behind the Floyd.

Sorry 'bout the Rant.

[andersoncouncil]

Well, you can't really say that Pink didn't meet with destruction since at the end of the film his actual fate is left unknown.
Also, I always comprehended the Ziggy Stardust pseudo-story type deal much easier just because there wasmuch less symbolism and things left to imagination to me.
Thats just my two cents on it anyhow.
I'm talking about the album, not the film.

I think Outside the Wall gives us clues about Pink's fate.

It's a lot harder to get a clear picture of Ziggy because it's so vague. The Wall's elaborate symbolism gave a lot to work with.

[A Rolling Stone]

^^To me, Outside The Wall isn't really Pink outside the Wall, it's showing you what it's like Outside of The Wall while all of this (The rest of the album) is going on. Calm, tranquil, and like nothing has happened.
Though I'm sure most people don't see it that way, I stand by my words.

[SeXbOx360]

Shame you can't make threads about 'Floyd outside here, hard to discuss a single theme about Pink Floyd.

Anyways

Pink Floyd is pretty much split, but roughly, we still have two main characters left: David Gilmour, and Roger Waters. Which one is your favorite and why?

Mine is definitely Gilmour. He's an excellent musician, and I think that his lyrics are a little more . . . thoughtful than Waters', plus that I think that his music style is generally better, so much warmer and relaxing.
However, he is not very cooperative when it comes to Waters. . .they needed Bob Geldof to persuade Gilmour to come to the Live 8 Pink Floyd reunion

RIP Rick Wright and Syd Barrett :( plus theres 3 main members left becuase nick mason is still living and yes daivd gilmour is great as a musican and a song writer

[stonegolem13]

^David's lyrics are crafted with a very fine scalpel, whereas Roger's are hacked at with a chisel...At the end of the day however, Roger produces more fully fledged works of art than Dave, and they usually end up more in touch with things, people can relate to them a lot easier. I wouldn't say David is more thoughtful though

Pink Floyd is pretty much split, but roughly, we still have two main characters left: David Gilmour, and Roger Waters. Which one is your favorite and why?

Mine is definitely Gilmour. He's an excellent musician, and I think that his lyrics are a little more . . . thoughtful than Waters', plus that I think that his music style is generally better, so much warmer and relaxing.
However, he is not very cooperative when it comes to Waters. . .they needed Bob Geldof to persuade Gilmour to come to the Live 8 Pink Floyd reunion

Nick :p: , though out of those two I prefer Gilmour to Waters

[SeXbOx360]

Totally Gilmour but i'm not saying that Gilmour is way way better Waters created the greatest album of all time Dark Side of the Moon

[Thefallofman]

^David's lyrics are crafted with a very fine scalpel, whereas Roger's are hacked at with a chisel...
Couldn't disagree more. Gilmour's produced some good lyrics, but most of his best were co-written with Polly. I mean how many songs has David even written in full from 68 onward?


I'm someone who's probably closer to the Gilmour camp than the Waters camp, but David has barely done a thing lyrically. He's good when he does it, but that's not very often.

[R.I.P.Jimi]

nick mason has a purple butterfly shirt. why the **** is this conversation happening?

haha i can't imagine pink floyd without either, i don't have a favorite, as i haven't listend to enough of the Final Cut or Gilmours solo albums. Obscured by Clouds, i can't rep this album enough anymore i love love love it.

[xVDHx]

Couldn't disagree more. Gilmour's produced some good lyrics, but most of his best were co-written with Polly. I mean how many songs has David even written in full from 68 onward?

Apart from his solo-albums, he has written 14 (full) songs for Pink Floyd..but I DO however think that Gilmour's lyrics are..a little deeper.
Then again...he didn't write too many songs. The Division Bell and A Momentary Lapse of Reason had most songs mainly written by Gilmour, but co-written by God-knows how many others.
Then again, mostly all of Pink Floyd songs have extraordinarily good lyrics


I'm someone who's probably closer to the Gilmour camp than the Waters camp, but David has barely done a thing lyrically. He's good when he does it, but that's not very often.

True. True.

[xVDHx]

They even hired a lyricist for the last two albums! Believe me, i love Gilmour, but there is no way his lyrics were 'deeper' or 'more thoughtful' than Waters'. Wish You Were Here and Shine On You Crazy Diamond, anyone!?? Gilmour's playing always seems to overshadow Waters' lyrics.

And what were the songs Gilmour's written? I'm curious... all i can think of is Fat Old Sun.

A Spanish Piece, The Narrow Way part 1-3, Fat Old Sun, Childhood’s End, Round and Around, A New Machine part 1-2,Terminal Frost, Sorrow, Country Theme, Small Theme, Big Theme, Mexico '78 and Coming Back to Life...*pant*

Yeah, Wikipedia, I know, I KNOW

[SeXbOx360]

I have nothing to say to this.... I'll thin of something later :p:

[Thefallofman]

Out of those songs, how many have incredible lyrics?

Fat Old Sun has cool imagery, Childhood's End is cool- though maybe cliche at times, Sorrow also has cool imagery and Coming Back To Life is emotional... though more from the presentation of the words and Gilmour's playing than from the lyrics. The Narrow Way is mostly instrumental, but it's got some nice lyrics too.

Other than that, those songs are either instrumental or not exactly lyrical masterpieces. Compare that to what Roger's done lyrically.



Gilmour has done more lyric work on his solo albums, but there aren't that many songs with amazing lyrics. Murder, Cruise and Near The End are all good, and as a whole On An Island is good (though that's all co-written with Polly except Where We Start).

[BrainDamage]

Apart from his solo-albums, he has written 14 (full) songs for Pink Floyd..but I DO however think that Gilmour's lyrics are..a little deeper. That's a bold statement.

Childhood's End is cool- though maybe cliche at times That song is among my favorites lyrically. Hell, it's one of my favorites period.

Other than that, those songs are either instrumental or not exactly lyrical masterpieces. Compare that to what Roger's done lyrically.

Gilmour has done more lyric work on his solo albums, but there aren't that many songs with amazing lyrics. Murder, Cruise and Near The End are all good, and as a whole On An Island is good (though that's all co-written with Polly except Where We Start). It's simple: the brains behind Pink Floyd was Roger Waters, while Gilmour and Wright were the sound.

[Thefallofman]

It's simple: the brains behind Pink Floyd was Roger Waters, while Gilmour and Wright were the sound.
Absolutely.

[Peaceful Rocker]

I agree aswell, the lyrics on the two post Waters album are subpar for Floyd

[HiImKindaNewAnd]

I have some problems with Waters' lyrics. They're good, but a tad too banal. There's really no room for interpretation.

[bg-payne]

Hey, know what?
There was an "Hommage to Pink Floyd" at Montréal.
I wanted to go see it (OF COURSE!), but, know what?
THE ****ING MEXICAN DOORMAN ASKED FOR MY ID!
17 years old and 3 months = GAY!!!! >:(

Btw, has anyone heard of Porcupine Tree? Someone told me it was somewhat like Pink Floyd :O

[A Rolling Stone]

I have some problems with Waters' lyrics. They're good, but a tad too banal. There's really no room for interpretation.

I'm gonna have to agree on this, usually the meaning of his lyrics are set in stone at least 70 percent of the time. Not a bad thing though, they're still some of the best ever written imo.

[metalfan#3]

Porcupine Tree is excellent, but they don't really sound like Floyd that much. They're proggy, though.

[HiImKindaNewAnd]

I'm gonna have to agree on this, usually the meaning of his lyrics are set in stone at least 70 percent of the time. Not a bad thing though, they're still some of the best ever written imo.
Oh yeah. Actually, being able to write good lyrics using an approach I'm not fond of makes me respect him quite a bit. :)

[bg-payne]

Has anyone though of this:

"Careful with that axe, Eugene"
could be SOMEWHAT pronounced
"Careful with that oxygen"

:O

[SeXbOx360]

Has anyone though of this:

"Careful with that axe, Eugene"
could be SOMEWHAT pronounced
"Careful with that oxygen"

:O

creepy

___________________________________________________________________
WHERE HAS THIS WORLD COME TO!!!!

:fight:

[stonegolem13]

Has anyone though of this:

"Careful with that axe, Eugene"
could be SOMEWHAT pronounced
"Careful with that oxygen"

:O

If you have some serious deficiencies in your mouth...i.e you lack a tongue, your teeth are horribly twisted out of their usual position or you have the strangest accent on your voice known to man... ;)

Couldn't disagree more. Gilmour's produced some good lyrics, but most of his best were co-written with Polly. I mean how many songs has David even written in full from 68 onward?


I'm someone who's probably closer to the Gilmour camp than the Waters camp, but David has barely done a thing lyrically. He's good when he does it, but that's not very often.

That's exactly what I said except I used flowery metaphors to explain it :p:

[tabithag]

Apparently Guy Pratt's toured as a stand-up - telling stories of his times with Floyd as well as the other bands he played with - has anyone ever seen him?

I found this interview of him talking about it - so funny:

http://www.t5m.com/guy-pratt/

Long time lurker, first time poster :)

[A Rolling Stone]

^^Strange.
But cool, I guess.

[SeXbOx360]

yeah i guess..... lets talk about something else


_______________

WHERE HAS THIS WORLD COME TO!!!!
:fight:

[Thefallofman]

yeah i guess..... lets talk about something else
Why? I'd enjoy talking about something different for a change.



I wish Guy would tour the states with his show... I'd love to see it. His book is apparently really cool- much more revealing about the debauchery on the AMLOR tour than Nick's book. I've been meaning to pick it up forever.

[tabithag]

^^Strange.
But cool, I guess.

I know, right? Random!

Why? I'd enjoy talking about something different for a change.

I wish Guy would tour the states with his show... I'd love to see it. His book is apparently really cool- much more revealing about the debauchery on the AMLOR tour than Nick's book. I've been meaning to pick it up forever.

...I can't decide whether it'd be a really great show... or not, lol!

[Thefallofman]

...I can't decide whether it'd be a really great show... or not, lol!
Guy's show? Oh, it'd be an absolute riot I'm sure. He's hilarious.

[A Rolling Stone]

I wish Guy would tour the states with his show... I'd love to see it. His book is apparently really cool- much more revealing about the debauchery on the AMLOR tour than Nick's book. I've been meaning to pick it up forever.

I don't even have Nick's :sad:
But then again it's been forever since I got any new music books. Now I'll have to add Guy's book to the list too...I didn't even know he had written one till now, actually.

[BrainDamage]

I don't even have Nick's :sad:
But then again it's been forever since I got any new music books. Now I'll have to add Guy's book to the list too...I didn't even know he had written one till now, actually. I don't have Nick's book either, nor did I know Guy wrote one. I've been meaning to pick up Nick's book, but haven't gotten around to it.

On the topic of books written by musicians, go read The Real Frank Zappa Book. I bought that last semester and literally could not put it down. The man was a genius, and it was a very entertaining read.

[Wyatt4prez]

Hello Pink Floyd thread!

I watched the documentary on Floyd awhile back called 'Which ones Pink?'

It had mentioned that Pink Floyd had done some music for the moon landing and I can't find a single thing about it.

Would any of you have any information about it that you could share with me?

Thanks!

[bodyheatseeker]

I don't even have Nick's :sad:
But then again it's been forever since I got any new music books. Now I'll have to add Guy's book to the list too...I didn't even know he had written one till now, actually.

You should really pick up Nick's book soon. He writes really well, so it doesn't even feel like a music bio.

[SeXbOx360]

I don't even have Nick's :sad:
But then again it's been forever since I got any new music books. Now I'll have to add Guy's book to the list too...I didn't even know he had written one till now, actually.


what books do you have?


___________________________________________________________________ WHERE HAS THIS WORLD COME TO!!!! :fight:

[Littleangus44]

Why is it every time I listen to comfortably numb and wish you were here my eyes tear up? Do any of you get like this? I think its because there so beautifully put together, but what do I know im 14

[stonegolem13]

Hello Pink Floyd thread!

I watched the documentary on Floyd awhile back called 'Which ones Pink?'

It had mentioned that Pink Floyd had done some music for the moon landing and I can't find a single thing about it.

Would any of you have any information about it that you could share with me?

Thanks!

Basically, BBC were showing the moon landing. They decided (for some strange reason) to allow PF to play some crazy stuff in the background whilst it was broadcast.

[Thefallofman]

Why is it every time I listen to comfortably numb and wish you were here my eyes tear up? Do any of you get like this?
If you go back to about October in this thread you'll find a gigantic ramble of mine about just that.



I'm going to grab that Zappa book. I've been reading Bob Dylan's Chronicles book lately and it's decent so far. It's a bit strange.

[Absyth]

I went to Pompei this week :) I've seen the amphitheatre where Pink Floyd performed, although I wasn't sure about it cuz I remembered some false details but now I'm watching the dvd again and I'm sure that was the right one :P

[A Rolling Stone]

I've been reading Bob Dylan's Chronicles book lately and it's decent so far. It's a bit strange.

:liplick:
I loves me some Dylan Chronicles Vol. 1.
But it does skip around quite a bit. From before Self/Titled to Around New Morning/Oh Mercy. Very good timing. Vol. 2is supposedly in the work.

[toyboxmonster]

Does anyone else prefer Barrett-era Pink Floyd to post-Barret-era Pink Floyd?

[Thefallofman]

Does anyone else prefer Barrett-era Pink Floyd to post-Barret-era Pink Floyd?
I think a few people here do. Whatever happened to European Son? Haven't seen him around the forum in forever.

[jrcsgtpeppers]

Is it normal to be obsessed with Bike?
I just got Piper at... and I have never heard a Syd Floyd song before. I have only listened to The Wall, Wish you were here, DSOTM, Animals and PULSE.

But I love Barret Floyd now. ^my answer. But nothin beats the Wall IMO.

Anyway, Am I the only one who simply loves Bike? It so amazing!!!!!

[A Rolling Stone]

^^One of the most playful of the Syd Barrett era and one of my favorite.
When you go into "the other room" I was just like wtf is happening? It was my first Syd-Floyd song as well and I hardly knew what to think at the time...

[jrcsgtpeppers]

When I first heard it I was like:
what the fu*k?........ Anything everything if you want things? Gerald? gingerbread men? ...... What the heck am I listening to??? :wtf:

Second time around:
oh my god... I love this. This is Fu*king amazing!!!! Only a musical genius could make something so simple sound this incredible!
:sexsmile:
literally, I could do it to that song. That would be the most amazing thing on earth!!!

[Master Shake]

Bike is an awesome song, i was thinking about singing it at the top of my lungs at the Aussie Idol auditions on Sunday but i thought that would make me look like a sad little attention seeker just trying to get on TV... oh wait?? :(

[J-Smack]

^^I would've done it. :haha:

[toyboxmonster]

But I love Barret Floyd now. ^my answer. But nothin beats the Wall IMO.

I actually really ****ing hate "The Wall". I don't really like anything post-Barrett, but in my opinion, "Dark Side of the Moon" definitely beats "The Wall".

[J-Smack]

^^Huh. Reasons? :confused:

[Peaceful Rocker]

the Wall definantly isn't Floyds best album, the concept is too cheesy and theres too many half ass tracks, particularly on the second half of the album

[Chips-]

Guess what I got in the mail today? :cool:

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7900/pflp2.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pflp2.jpg)
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5581/pflp1.th.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pflp1.jpg)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4183/pflp3.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pflp3.jpg)

[bodyheatseeker]

^I'm feeling a strange combination of hate, jealousy and awe.

"Animals", it's the love of my life

[Chips-]

^I'm feeling a strange combination of hate, jealousy and awe.

"Animals", it's the love of my life

:haha I just put Animals on. I got Meddle a while ago, now all my collection needs is The Wall and maybe perhaps if I can find The Division Bell.

[A Rolling Stone]

I actually really ****ing hate "The Wall". I don't really like anything post-Barrett, but in my opinion, "Dark Side of the Moon" definitely beats "The Wall".

So you only like their first album and one song from their second?
That, my good friend, is retarded even for an opinion. :)

[J-Smack]

^^It's actually somewhat common to hear people say that. I really don't understand how they can only like the Barrett era, seeing that he only lasted for one album. Maybe people think they're cool when they say "anything from the post-Barrett sucks from Floyd." Then again, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, regardless of how ridiculous others might think it seems.

[R.I.P.Jimi]

nice vinyl Chips! i've got the Wall, Dark Side and Obscured by clouds...but their used records man. looks like some hot vinyl there.

[Peaceful Rocker]

^^It's actually somewhat common to hear people say that. I really don't understand how they can only like the Barrett era, seeing that he only lasted for one album. Maybe people think they're cool when they say "anything from the post-Barrett sucks from Floyd." Then again, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, regardless of how ridiculous others might think it seems.
I've stated this before, I don't see how anyone can say this.. almost seems as if they're just trying to have a different opinion than everyone else. I don't even see how you can prefer the Barret era, Floyd progressed so much as a band after Syd lost it.. i'm definantly glad that Syd left planet earth and they were able to go on and create the music which is the only reason we even know who Pink Floyd is

[Thefallofman]

It's just an opinion, man. It's pretty rude to act like those who feel that way are faking it, or are just plain wrong.

[andersoncouncil]

I've stated this before, I don't see how anyone can say this.. almost seems as if they're just trying to have a different opinion than everyone else. I don't even see how you can prefer the Barret era, Floyd progressed so much as a band after Syd lost it.. i'm definantly glad that Syd left planet earth and they were able to go on and create the music which is the only reason we even know who Pink Floyd is
Poisoning the well much?

I think it Barrett era Floyd has an appeal because it's quirky and not well known.

[A Rolling Stone]

^^True, but thats what Peaceful Rocker is kind of tryin' to say. Most people don't only like Syd-Era Floyd and will only say they do because everyone else says the opposite. I'm not sayin' that's the case right now, but for the most part it is.
Like when people say a band's most popular song is their worst. I'm sorry but if it was their absolute worst song, it wouldn't be their most popular...see what I'm gettin' at?
For example, "Smells Like Teen Spirit is Nirvana's worst song because everyone knows it." Just because it's popular doesn't take away from a song (or in this case an era of a band's career).

Sorry 'bout the rant.

[andersoncouncil]

That doesn't mean that less popular music is less worthy or good.

I tend to ignore popularity when I'm deciding on a song's merits.

[A Rolling Stone]

^^Didn't mean for it to sound like I meant that at all...Usually the less popular stuff is some of the best.
But I'm the same as you...popularity has nothing to do with quality and thats a fact.

[vinc3nt]

When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse,
Out of the corner of my eye.
I turned to look but it was gone.
I cannot put my finger on it now.
The child is grown, the dream is gone.
I have become comfortably numb.

[Thefallofman]

It gets no better than that.

[A Rolling Stone]

^^+1 to that
;)

[Thefallofman]

Check these out: http://www.pinkfloydz.com/Early%20Memories.htm

I don't think anyone from UG posts on the A Fleeting Glimpse forum, but the website is run by a guy named Col who has been a Floyd fan since the UFO days in '66 and '67. He wrote up some articles with his memories of the early shows he saw (including the 14 Hour Technicolor Dream and a 5 man Floyd show). It's pretty cool.

[BrainDamage]

It gets no better than that. Yes it does...

Echoes.

:)

[Peaceful Rocker]

Yes it does...

Echoes.

:)
Agreed

[Thefallofman]

Yes it does...

Echoes.

:)
I agree/disagree based on the day.

[Peaceful Rocker]

I agree/disagree based on the day.
lol, for sure. I've been burnt on the Floyd recently, havent listened to them for a while

[R.I.P.Jimi]

i'd definately take echoes over comfortably numb. both are fantastic though.

[cuscus97]

i'd definately take echoes over comfortably numb. both are fantastic though.

echoes is a wonderful way to spend 20 mins, comfortably numb is also quite nice but not the as good.

[A Rolling Stone]

Out of those two, it depends on my mood. If i really want something epic or pre-Dark Side then Echoes all the way. But sometimes you gotta go back to the safe bets like Comfortably Numb for sure.

Careful with that Axe, Eugene beats them both though :p:

[toyboxmonster]

I've stated this before, I don't see how anyone can say this.. almost seems as if they're just trying to have a different opinion than everyone else. I don't even see how you can prefer the Barret era, Floyd progressed so much as a band after Syd lost it.. i'm definantly glad that Syd left planet earth and they were able to go on and create the music which is the only reason we even know who Pink Floyd is
Barrett's work is an obvious precursor to most of the music I listen to. Traces of his work can be found in space-rock and noise-pop music tha was written over 30 years after the release of "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn". Barrett's music was interesting and innovative; his approach to the guitar verged on complete abstraction.
Pink Floyd's later was just plain (albeit complex) rock 'n' roll, a genre I never found to be particularly interesting.

So you only like their first album and one song from their second?
That, my good friend, is retarded even for an opinion.
Okay. So after "Are You Experienced", Hendrix changes direction from psychadelic rock to gospel music. He puts out several of these, to massive critical acclaim, and "Are You Experienced" fades into obscurity.
Are retarded for still preferring "Are You Experienced"?

[Peaceful Rocker]

Barrett's work is an obvious precursor to most of the music I listen to. Traces of his work can be found in space-rock and noise-pop music tha was written over 30 years after the release of "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn". Barrett's music was interesting and innovative; his approach to the guitar verged on complete abstraction.
Pink Floyd's later was just plain (albeit complex) rock 'n' roll, a genre I never found to be particularly interesting.

I think you're really showing your lack of Floyd knowledge here..

Waters/Gilmour Floyd wasen't "plain rock n roll".. makes you appear ignorant saying that, it is very progressive.. anything but plain or average

and i'm very aware of how awesome Piper at the Gates of Dawn is, but that is only one album.. that's really all Syd Barret did with Pink Floyd, I don't really see how you can compare it to the later Floyd, which recorded Atom Heart Mother, Meddle, Dark side, Wish you Were here, Animals, the Wall.

All albums I consider amazing

[toyboxmonster]

I think you're really showing your lack of Floyd knowledge here..

Waters/Gilmour Floyd wasen't "plain rock n roll".. makes you appear ignorant saying that, it is very progressive.. anything but plain or average

and i'm very aware of how awesome Piper at the Gates of Dawn is, but that is only one album.. that's really all Syd Barret did with Pink Floyd, I don't really see how you can compare it to the later Floyd...

It's progressive. But still rock 'n' roll, and quite uninteresting in comparison to Barrett's work.
If asked you "what is better: ambient music, or rock 'n' roll?"
Undoubtedly, you would answer rock 'n' roll. The genres bear no resemblance whatsoever, and yet you still compared them by affirming that one was better than the other. What's barring me from doing the same in this case?

[Peaceful Rocker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3R2PgMiTvw

to me, this post-Barret performance sounds more "ambient" than anything he wrote

[toyboxmonster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3R2PgMiTvw

to me, this post-Barret performance sounds more "ambient" than anything he wrote
I didn't say Barrett was an ambient musician??!!?!?!???
Is this entire forum on crack this morning? I've been getting the strangest misinterpretations!?

[Peaceful Rocker]

It's progressive. But still rock 'n' roll, and quite uninteresting in comparison to Barrett's work.
If asked you "what is better: ambient music, or rock 'n' roll?"
ok, so if you wern't trying to get at Barrets music is more ambient than later Floyd, why the **** did you bring up ambient music and my musical tastes (which you know nothing about)?

[toyboxmonster]

ok, so if you wern't trying to get at Barrets music is more ambient than later Floyd, why the **** did you bring up ambient music and my musical tastes (which you know nothing about)?
To illustrate the point that it is possible to compare two kinds of music that bear no resemblance to each-other, since you had said you didn't know how I could compare Barrett-era Pink Floyd to post-Barret-era Pink Floyd.

[A Rolling Stone]

:facepalm:

[ub3r_bassist666]

Guys, he likes PATGOD more. Its called an opinion, jeez.

[Thefallofman]

Guys, he likes PATGOD more. Its called an opinion, jeez.
You win.


I said that about a page and a half ago, but nobody listened. Maybe if I quote you and agree (and people notice A Rolling Stone's facepalm), the point might get across.


Edit: sweet, that started a new page. Hopefully everyone will forget now.

[stonegolem13]

Guys, he likes PATGOD more. Its called an opinion, jeez.

And i'm perfectly fine with that, but we are allowed to have opinions too :p:

I didn't say Barrett was an ambient musician??!!?!?!???
Is this entire forum on crack this morning? I've been getting the strangest misinterpretations!?

Generally when you are comparing two things, then give two genres one of which you have already stated that one of the things you were comparing falls into, the other genre should contain your other thing...otherwise you are not progressing any form of conversation further.

^^^Sorry...what were we talking about......oh yeah that's right

Echoes is better that Comfortably Numb IMO, just because it's more....Echoesey :)

[Peaceful Rocker]

Guys, he likes PATGOD more. Its called an opinion, jeez.
meh, thats all gravy man but he went on to say some pretty incorrect statements about the later era of Floyd

[Thefallofman]

:facepalm:




I'm reposting this link because it's awesome and nobody looked at it the first time: http://www.pinkfloydz.com/Early%20Memories.htm

[andersoncouncil]

^That's actually pretty cool.

[boomboosh]

Yea Pink Floyd are alright....

[gerbil_mastr]

Actually i'm listening to the wall right now :down:

[moonmi]

YEA THEY ARE AWESOME
BTW im new. First post! woot :liplick:

[A Rolling Stone]

:facepalm:




I'm reposting this link because it's awesome and nobody looked at it the first time: http://www.pinkfloydz.com/Early%20Memories.htm

That Five-Man Floyd article was awesome...I'll read the rest later on :liplick:

[Mainer]

Hey, what's the Pink Floyd song, thats like recorded backwards?

[A Rolling Stone]

^^In "Empty Spaces" there is a hidden backmasking message that says: "...congratulations. You've just discovered the secret message. Please send your answer to Old Pink, care of the funny farm, Chalfont." (voice in background) "Roger! Carolyn is on the phone"!

"Old Pink" at the "Funny Farm" is thought to be a reference to Syd Barrett.

[Thefallofman]

That Five-Man Floyd article was awesome...I'll read the rest later on :liplick:
I actually just realized that another guy wrote a big essay about his experiences in 66-67 London that you can get to from that page. It's pretty cool, I love reading that stuff.

[andersoncouncil]

I actually just realized that another guy wrote a big essay about his experiences in 66-67 London that you can get to from that page. It's pretty cool, I love reading that stuff.
THose pictures are good.

[mitch_33]

I'm reposting this link because it's awesome and nobody looked at it the first time: http://www.pinkfloydz.com/Early%20Memories.htm


Thats awesome man, thanks for that.

I just got ummagumma on vinyl, sadly i do not have my record player with me:(

[A Rolling Stone]

^^That me be for the best.
I got Ummagumma on Vinyl myself and apart from the amazing live lp the only good thing to come out of it is Grantchester Meadows.
The rest is garbage imo

[talia.]

So I am late bloomer in this thread, but I watched money live on the Live 8 concert, and it is damn awesome. Especially for old geezers like them :p:

[mitch_33]

^^That me be for the best.
I got Ummagumma on Vinyl myself and apart from the amazing live lp the only good thing to come out of it is Grantchester Meadows.
The rest is garbage imo

Really, ive heard granchester meadows and loved it, i havent heard anything else from that album though. Im excited to give it a listen now.

[Thefallofman]

Heh, you'll like the record more if you don't listen to the rest of it.

[A Rolling Stone]

Lets put it this way, when David was asked what he though about early albums such as Ummagumma today he responded with this:

"I think they're are pretty horrible. Well, the live disc of Ummagumma might be all right, but even that isn't recorded well."

'Nuff said.

[mitch_33]

haha yeah i read that somewhere.

Has anyone read the book "Pigs Might Fly- The inside story of Pink Floyd by Mark Blake"?

I just picked it up and so far its really interesting.

[stonegolem13]

^Ive got Nick Mason's book but not that one

So I am late bloomer in this thread, but I watched money live on the Live 8 concert, and it is damn awesome. Especially for old geezers like them :p:

It's kinda strange how when you get the DVD of the London show, everything is kinda boring and then along come The Who, PF and Mc Cartney and blow everyone else out of the water despite being about 60 :)

[rocknroll93]

ok, a few pages back (maybe a few hundred) i said AC/DC was my fave band. i have now changed my mind because
A: pink floyd are more musicaly tallented
B: I am a blues guitarist, not a hard rock guitarist ( i still love AC/DC though)

no back on topic, i believe DSOTM wat over rated, still too awsome (nearly as much as chuck norris) but in my opinion not as good as wish you were here or the wall.

thats all I have to say for now.

[A Rolling Stone]

^^DSOTM overrated? Depends on if you talk to fanboys or not :p:

Anyway, I think that, overrall, WYWH is Floyd's most "complete" album while DSOTM is truly their crowning achievement.
As for pre-DSOTM, my choice is most definitely Meddle, with SFOS not too far behind.

[Peaceful Rocker]

Imo Atom Heart Mother > SFOS, and I agree.. Meddle is the ****

[Karvid]

^^DSOTM overrated? Depends on if you talk to fanboys or not :p:

Anyway, I think that, overrall, WYWH is Floyd's most "complete" album while DSOTM is truly their crowning achievement.
As for pre-DSOTM, my choice is most definitely Meddle, with SFOS not too far behind.
Meddle is by far my favorite pre-DSOTM album.

[stonegolem13]

^Either Meddle or Obscured by Clouds...Probably Obscured, just because it shows how much they could achieve in a few weeks with no preparation at all :)

[mitch_33]

Obscured is brilliant i think, one of my fav floyd albums thats for sure.

[Thefallofman]

Hmm, I never thought of it that way. I think that makes me put Obscured ahead.

I was thinking a while back about Obscured, and while people seem to say that Obscured was a building block to DSOTM, wasn't Obscured probably written after most of DSOTM? They were playing (a slightly finished) DSOTM live in January of '72, but Obscured was recorded in late February of that year.

[stratdax]

I liked A Momentary Lapse of Reason. It was a good album. Sure it might have been a David Gilmour album, as opposed to a Pink Floyd album, but I don't care.

It's a total headphone-album for me. For example, when I hear Terminal Frost I start daydreaming about - fittingly - some permafrost landscape. Most of the songs on that album do that for me.

[Karvid]

I wouldn't say that AMLOR is horrible, but I simply can't get all that into it somehow.

[Peaceful Rocker]

Its not horrible for average bands, but imo its a pretty bad album for Floyd

[distilledspirit]

Obviously by the time it was released it was completely Roger's band.

[stratdax]

Obviously by the time it was released it was completely Roger's band.

You mean David's band.
I agree with that, but I just don't care! It helps that his tone on that album is perfect.

[Karvid]

You mean "David's band," right?

[Peaceful Rocker]

The music is good, its the lyrics that are subpar on that album, same goes with the division bell

[distilledspirit]

You mean "David's band," right?
I'm a fool.

[A Rolling Stone]

The music is good, its the lyrics that are subpar on that album, same goes with the division bell

I agree totally with this. If I'm not mistaken David hired a lyricist for either one or both of those albums...Or maybe I just made that up. Can someone help me? :p:

I hope Matt doesn't look in this thread and see a half-page dedicated to this album...He'd just start bannin' people left and right :haha

[Karvid]

No, I think David Gilmour wrote some of those lyrics with his wife, but I'm not sure about it.

[BrainDamage]

^^Samson is credited on 7 of the 11 tracks on The Division Bell and she's not on A Momentary Lapse (I don't believe they even knew each other at the time). There a few other lyricists who weren't members of the band credited on both Momentary Lapse and The Division Bell, but I don't think they were hired.


I was thinking a while back about Obscured, and while people seem to say that Obscured was a building block to DSOTM, wasn't Obscured probably written after most of DSOTM? They were playing (a slightly finished) DSOTM live in January of '72, but Obscured was recorded in late February of that year. Dark Side was conceived during/right after? the Meddle sessions (which took place from Jan-Aug 1971), with the first full performance of the suite on 1972-01-21, so I'd think it's pretty safe to say it was written before Obscured. While it appears as if they might have agreed to do the soundtrack around the same time as writing Dark Side, I highly doubt Obscured was written before the majority of Dark Side. And if it was, it sure doesn't sound like it.

Either way, I think it's much more evident that Meddle (and more specifically Echoes) was the biggest "building block" to Dark Side.

[stonegolem13]

Isn't Douglas Adams credited with coming up with the name for The Division Bell? Or is that AMLoR (or both)??? Either way...what a cool guy :)

[cuscus97]

The music is good, its the lyrics that are subpar on that album, same goes with the division bell

I haven't listened to the whole album yet, but I heard a few clips off those albums on BBC's "The Pink Floyd Story" and it sounded really 80's in a bad way, with terrible disco-y drum sounds and 80's poppy guitar. Is this fair, or is it really very different from that?

[Thefallofman]

I haven't listened to the whole album yet, but I heard a few clips off those albums on BBC's "The Pink Floyd Story" and it sounded really 80's in a bad way, with terrible disco-y drum sounds and 80's poppy guitar. Is this fair, or is it really very different from that?
Somewhat. Listen to On The Turning Away.

[bodyheatseeker]

Isn't Douglas Adams credited with coming up with the name for The Division Bell? Or is that AMLoR (or both)??? Either way...what a cool guy :)

I know for sure that he came up with "Division Bell" and I think he might have helped out on a few lyrics (or so the story goes).

[A Rolling Stone]

I haven't listened to the whole album yet, but I heard a few clips off those albums on BBC's "The Pink Floyd Story" and it sounded really 80's in a bad way, with terrible disco-y drum sounds and 80's poppy guitar. Is this fair, or is it really very different from that?

Just give it a listen fully. I'll be honest, some of it blows hard...but then again some of it pretty good i.e. On The Turning Way, Learning to Fly (I don't care what you say I like this song), Sorrow.
Overall (to me) it's sub-par for Floyd but a decent album nonetheless.

[Peaceful Rocker]

I haven't listened to the whole album yet, but I heard a few clips off those albums on BBC's "The Pink Floyd Story" and it sounded really 80's in a bad way, with terrible disco-y drum sounds and 80's poppy guitar. Is this fair, or is it really very different from that?
I don't like it, i dont believe ive ever listened to the entire album.. its pretty bad

[talia.]

I am slowly but surely falling in love with Pink Floyd, and I think my next pick to buy is going to be The Wall. But after that, I'm not sure.

[Feel bad inc.]

I am slowly but surely falling in love with Pink Floyd, and I think my next pick to buy is going to be The Wall. But after that, I'm not sure.
what ya got so far?

[missdor]

My tastes in music are continuously changing, but Pink Floyd is the only band that I've been listening to for 4 years or something like that. I'm sorry that I was born too late, Pink Floyd, concert, amazingnessness.

Hmm, and my favorite songs are Pigs (three different ones), Us and them, Time, Shine on, you crazy diamond, The final cut... etc. :D

[A Rolling Stone]

I am slowly but surely falling in love with Pink Floyd, and I think my next pick to buy is going to be The Wall. But after that, I'm not sure.

Go for the first one on my list that you don't have:

Dark Side of the Moon
Animals
Wish You Were Here
Meddle
More

There's five so...uh...go crazy!

[Skirvy]

Screw The Wall, get Wish You Were Here & Animals now. NOW!

[cuscus97]

Get Meddle and Saucerful of Secrets, those two are awesome.

[talia.]

what ya got so far?
DSOTM. I was going to get The Wall then, but it was like $30.

[Skirvy]

DSOTM. I was going to get The Wall then, but it was like $30.

like i said before, screw the wall.

[A Rolling Stone]

^^Today you must be on a posting spree in this forum saying things that...Don't make very much sense to me. (E.g. Dylan Thread)
At all.

[Skirvy]

^^Today you must be on a posting spree in this forum saying things that...Don't make very much sense to me. (E.g. Dylan Thread)
At all.

And a few months ago you came out of no where posting at every opportunity saying pointless things like

^^I agree

and you don't see me complaining.




And man, you seem to conform to every standard opinion you can find.

[bodyheatseeker]

^Guys, don't start...

And talia, get The Wall if you want, it's a great album. I would, however, recommend "Meddle" and "Animals"

[Thefallofman]

saying pointless things
Saying "screw the Wall" twice in a span of 5 posts isn't helping your case.




As for an album to buy, I'd suggest Wish You Were Here. As much as I do love The Wall, it's not as easy to get into as the other albums. There's a lot there to take in, and for a new fan I think the better purchase would be in something a little more accessible.

[stonegolem13]

AMLoR isn't so bad except for A New Machine, One Slip, and The Dogs of War is useless until you hear it on DSoT

And man, you seem to conform to every standard opinion you can find.

listening to PF is something I'd hardly call a "standard opinion"

[Skirvy]

I'm not saying screw The Wall as in literally, i mean, go for Wish You Were Here or Animals BEFORE The Wall. Woah, i'm being greatly misunderstood on these forums at the moment.

[Thefallofman]

AMLoR isn't so bad except for A New Machine, One Slip, and The Dogs of War is useless until you hear it on DSoT
I actually always really dug One Slip.

It's Scott Page's sax playing that kills Dogs Of War for me. I mean he yells into his sax mic at times... what's up with that? I don't know why they didn't just go for Dick Parry.

[stratdax]

Sorrow has a badass, HUUUGE guitar tone.
Terminal Frost has some great phrasing, and Learning to Fly is a good song. I think overall the production value on the album is great, and the cover is pretty damn impressive. That's a lot of damn beds.

I like Momentary Lapse (as an entire album) more than The Wall. Sure, The Wall's best songs were better than Momentary Lapse's best songs, but there was just too much "concept" and not enough "album" on the Wall for me to ever listen through again.

There's my contentious statement of the day.

But either way, Animals was clearly Pink Floyd's best.

[A Rolling Stone]

And a few months ago you came out of no where posting at every opportunity saying pointless things

Screw The Wall, get Wish You Were Here & Animals now. NOW! like i said before, screw the wall.

:facepalm:
Really?

SUPEREDIT: I can see that we're both losing alot of respect and making asses of ourselves not to mention spamming several threads here so I vote to forget it and call it even.
Heck, you're one of my friends on my profile :p:
Deal?


Anyway, on the subject of AMLOR, I somewhat agree with the guy above me, in some ways I don't. Sure the Wall had alot of cinematic songs that didn't have alot of real value but, as you said, it also had alot of great tracks.

Do I think that AMLOR is better than the Wall? Not even close in my opinion, but Ido like AMLOR just because with one or two exceptions it is, in my opinion, a pretty strong album throughout.

[R.I.P.Jimi]

I'm learning to play Childhoods end. it's really not that hard...fun!

[andersoncouncil]

Do I think that AMLOR is better than the Wall? Not even close in my opinion, but Ido like AMLOR just because with one or two exceptions it is, in my opinion, a pretty strong album throughout.
It still falters though I think. Somewhat significantly in some places.

[Skirvy]

SUPEREDIT: I can see that we're both losing alot of respect and making asses of ourselves not to mention spamming several threads here so I vote to forget it and call it even.
Heck, you're one of my friends on my profile :p:
Deal?




Dealio.

I'm thinking of listening to Animals and DSoTM on vinyl in a dimmly lit room later. Should be fun.

[stonegolem13]

I actually always really dug One Slip.

It's Scott Page's sax playing that kills Dogs Of War for me. I mean he yells into his sax mic at times... what's up with that? I don't know why they didn't just go for Dick Parry.

Dick Parry probably would have been great on that song too :(

[A Rolling Stone]

Dealio.
Awesome.

It still falters though I think. Somewhat significantly in some places.

Yea, The Dogs of War, A New Machine (both parts) etc... are essentially unlistenable to me.
Especially Dogs of War.

[SomeEvilDude]

Anybody else heard about Gilmour playing this (http://www.planetrock.com/News-110509-1.htm) thing?

Tickets are like £30, and of all the days he had to play, it would be the day I leave to start Basic.

The one guy left on my list of people to see before I/they die, and despite being able to afford tickets and transport, I can't go see him on his one scheduled date in the UK this year. Fuck!

[paulgenovo]

Songs I liked off AMLOR:

One Slip
Learning To Fly
On The Turning Away
The Dogs Of War
Yet Another Movie
A New Machine

A great album imo, it just pales in comparison to Floyd's other work. Delicate Sound Of Thunder actually has better versions of those songs.

[Peaceful Rocker]

But either way, Animals was clearly Pink Floyd's best.
Animals isn't "clearly" Floyds best, nothing is clearly their best.. they have too many great albums to make that statement

[Thefallofman]

Anybody else heard about Gilmour playing this (http://www.planetrock.com/News-110509-1.htm) thing?

Tickets are like £30, and of all the days he had to play, it would be the day I leave to start Basic.

The one guy left on my list of people to see before I/they die, and despite being able to afford tickets and transport, I can't go see him on his one scheduled date in the UK this year. Fuck!
Heh, not much of a secret is it? Should be cool though.

[stonegolem13]

Anybody else heard about Gilmour playing this (http://www.planetrock.com/News-110509-1.htm) thing?

Tickets are like £30, and of all the days he had to play, it would be the day I leave to start Basic.

The one guy left on my list of people to see before I/they die, and despite being able to afford tickets and transport, I can't go see him on his one scheduled date in the UK this year. Fuck!

I wish I could be there...but I don't think I'd be able to organise myself to go to London in a couple of weeks :( It's nice that Dave's doing something though, I'd hate to see him fade away again

[g.timko]

First song I learned to completion was Money.
And my dad introduced me to Pink Floyd at age 7.
Ahh to be young.
Now I'm 15 and getting jaded lol.

[talia.]

So I have listened to a couple of tracks off of Meddle. So far, its a very chill record. But I do love Echoes.

[A Rolling Stone]

^^My favorite from Meddle is One of These Days.
There's a kick-ass version of it on the "Live at Pompeii" DVD. If you like pre-DSOTM floyd that DVD is definitely a must-have.

[beadhangingOne]

lol phantom of the opera totally rips off echoes.

[TUXGUITAR]

lol phantom of the opera totally rips off echoes.


ha yep :cool:

[talia.]

does it really? i have to watch it again and pay attention :p:

[A Rolling Stone]

^^:haha
I'm guessing you guys are talking about the Iron maiden Song?

[Peaceful Rocker]

^^My favorite from Meddle is One of These Days.
There's a kick-ass version of it on the "Live at Pompeii" DVD. If you like pre-DSOTM floyd that DVD is definitely a must-have.
I actually don't like the Pompeii version of "One of these days" much

[beadhangingOne]

^^:haha
I'm guessing you guys are talking about the Iron maiden Song?

err.. no the title track to the andrew lloyd webber musical.


dahhhhh da na na na naaahaaahhhhhhhh

EDIT: I even found this.

"Yeah, the beginning of that bloody Phantom song is from Echoes. *DAAAA-da-da-da-da-da* . I couldn't believe it when I heard it. It's the same time signature - it's 12/8 - and it's the same structure and it's the same notes and it's the same everything. Bastard. It probably is actionable. It really is! But I think that life's too long to bother with suing Andrew fucking Lloyd Webber."

--- Roger Waters

[A Rolling Stone]

err.. no the title track to the andrew lloyd webber musical.


dahhhhh da na na na naaahaaahhhhhhhh

EDIT: I even found this.

"Yeah, the beginning of that bloody Phantom song is from Echoes. *DAAAA-da-da-da-da-da* . I couldn't believe it when I heard it. It's the same time signature - it's 12/8 - and it's the same structure and it's the same notes and it's the same everything. Bastard. It probably is actionable. It really is! But I think that life's too long to bother with suing Andrew fucking Lloyd Webber."

--- Roger Waters

Ahh, now I definitely can hear it!! I should've known, I'm a huge fan of the musical and I own the movie (with Emmy Rossum and Gerard Butler), I guess I drew a blank since haven't seen it in a while :p:

[clayonfire]

err.. no the title track to the andrew lloyd webber musical.


dahhhhh da na na na naaahaaahhhhhhhh

EDIT: I even found this.

"Yeah, the beginning of that bloody Phantom song is from Echoes. *DAAAA-da-da-da-da-da* . I couldn't believe it when I heard it. It's the same time signature - it's 12/8 - and it's the same structure and it's the same notes and it's the same everything. Bastard. It probably is actionable. It really is! But I think that life's too long to bother with suing Andrew fucking Lloyd Webber."

--- Roger Waters

I'm listening to Echoes right now...major coincidence. I'll have to check out that song sometime I guess. I'm Kinda glad to hear that Roger isn't joining in with all the other artists out there who are suing each other...Even if he has the right to. Just kinda an "in my opinion" type deal.

[beadhangingOne]

I'm listening to Echoes right now...major coincidence. I'll have to check out that song sometime I guess. I'm Kinda glad to hear that Roger isn't joining in with all the other artists out there who are suing each other...Even if he has the right to. Just kinda an "in my opinion" type deal.

Yeah, (Satch... take a hint!). They both make a boatload money and their fans both love their music, so unless there is actual plagiarism (I'm talking Queen---vanilla ice territory), no reason to sue.

[bodyheatseeker]

I'm listening to Echoes right now...major coincidence. I'll have to check out that song sometime I guess. I'm Kinda glad to hear that Roger isn't joining in with all the other artists out there who are suing each other...Even if he has the right to. Just kinda an "in my opinion" type deal.

Yeah, I think he got the anger out of his system with "It's a Miracle"

[SomeEvilDude]

Yeah, I think he got the anger out of his system with "It's a Miracle"

'We cower in our shelters, with our hands over our ears,
Lloyd Webber's awful stuff runs for years and years and years...
An earthquake hits the theatre, but operetta lingers,
Then the piano lid comes down and breaks his fucking fingers.
It's a miracle.'

You don't say!

[talia.]

err.. no the title track to the andrew lloyd webber musical.


dahhhhh da na na na naaahaaahhhhhhhh

EDIT: I even found this.

"Yeah, the beginning of that bloody Phantom song is from Echoes. *DAAAA-da-da-da-da-da* . I couldn't believe it when I heard it. It's the same time signature - it's 12/8 - and it's the same structure and it's the same notes and it's the same everything. Bastard. It probably is actionable. It really is! But I think that life's too long to bother with suing Andrew fucking Lloyd Webber."

--- Roger Waters
lol. i want to see if i can find a comparison online now

[andersoncouncil]

^Try Youtube.

[stonegolem13]

'We cower in our shelters, with our hands over our ears,
Lloyd Webber's awful stuff runs for years and years and years...
An earthquake hits the theatre, but operetta lingers,
Then the piano lid comes down and breaks his fucking fingers.
It's a miracle.'

You don't say!

:haha....that's made me want to get more of Roger's solo stuff :D

[Thefallofman]

:haha....that's made me want to get more of Roger's solo stuff :D
Amused To Death is really, really good.

[A Rolling Stone]

^^My favorite Waters is definitely Pros and Cons of Hitchiking.
I like amused to death and Radio KAOS fine, just not nearly as much.

[SomeEvilDude]

I take it I'm the only one who doesn't particularly like 'Radio KAOS', then? Just seems really mediocre to me.

[BrainDamage]

Amused To Death is really, really good. I haven't listened to that album in a very long time, but I can tell you one thing: I hate Perfect Sense.

[Thefallofman]

I think part one of that song has some of the best lyrics ever. I could just sit and think about them for hours.

[BrainDamage]

^^Either way, it comes down to the fact that the friend who drove me to school everyday my senior year of high school had a playlist on his Ipod that didn't change all year, and Perfect Sense was on it. I heard that song so many times that I've started to associate it with that kid, and that's not exactly a good thing. He damn near made me sick of the Allman Brothers too.

[GezzyDiversion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KahaHm52PAw

brilliant performance from Live at St Tropez

[Thefallofman]

^^Either way, it comes down to the fact that the friend who drove me to school everyday my senior year of high school had a playlist on his Ipod that didn't change all year, and Perfect Sense was on it. I heard that song so many times that I've started to associate it with that kid, and that's not exactly a good thing. He damn near made me sick of the Allman Brothers too.
Meh. I understand. My roommate is one of those people who finds a good song and LISTENS TO IT ALL THE TIME. Thankfully he raided my CD collection and has been playing the hell out of Bright Eyes and Thrice, which is certainly okay with me.

[michal23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT7Xzfm3phU&feature=channel

I don't know if anyone has seen this before. Only 42 views so probably not.
It's Pink Floyd rehearsing Comfortably Numb in an empty hall in 1980. You can tell it's the rehearsal 'cause Gilmour doesn't bother singing half his lines :haha

But damn, this is some amazing stuff!

[A Rolling Stone]

Meh. I understand. My roommate is one of those people who finds a good song and LISTENS TO IT ALL THE TIME. Thankfully he raided my CD collection and has been playing the hell out of Bright Eyes and Thrice, which is certainly okay with me.

I love Bright Eyes!
And I hear you talking about Thrice all the time (e.g. Dream Setlist Thread) and I have no idea who they are...could you reccomend me some tracks/albums?

[Jesus=ConArtist]

I've been listening to division bell alot lately. I can't understand why this album recieves such negative feedback, I really enjoy it.

[metalfan#3]

I love Bright Eyes!
And I hear you talking about Thrice all the time (e.g. Dream Setlist Thread) and I have no idea who they are...could you reccomend me some tracks/albums?

Get The Alchemy Index. It's 4 EP's, each sounds like a different element. Air and Earth are the best. <# Daedalus and The Earth Isn't Humming.

[Master Shake]

I take it I'm the only one who doesn't particularly like 'Radio KAOS', then? Just seems really mediocre to me.

i actually havent been able to listen to it the whole way through, i find it it rather boring tbh. I like ATD though

[A Rolling Stone]

Get The Alchemy Index. It's 4 EP's, each sounds like a different element. Air and Earth are the best. <# Daedalus and The Earth Isn't Humming.

Sounds awesome, next time I go down to CD central it's on the top of my list :)

[metalfan#3]

Sounds awesome, next time I go down to CD central it's on the top of my list :)


Also, if you see Vheissu, buy it. It's brilliant.

[baylewis]

How come Thrice and bright eyes are being mentioned in a pink floyd thread?

I've listening to pink floyd lately and I've only just realised I've been missing out (as my avatar will suggest, my style differs somewhat)

I love the solo from time, deadset, it is giving me goosebumps. In the same way that the solo from achilles last stand and fade to black did when i first listened to them

[jrcsgtpeppers]

How come Thrice and bright eyes are being mentioned in a pink floyd thread?

I've listening to pink floyd lately and I've only just realised I've been missing out (as my avatar will suggest, my style differs somewhat)

I love the solo from time, deadset, it is giving me goosebumps. In the same way that the solo from achilles last stand and fade to black did when i first listened to them
Its a really good solo. I love his bends, he plays with so much feeling.

DON'T check out my cover, I am disappoint of it.

[Peaceful Rocker]

How come Thrice and bright eyes are being mentioned in a pink floyd thread?

I've listening to pink floyd lately and I've only just realised I've been missing out (as my avatar will suggest, my style differs somewhat)

I love the solo from time, deadset, it is giving me goosebumps. In the same way that the solo from achilles last stand and fade to black did when i first listened to them
:cheers:

cheak out Animals and Meddle

[A Rolling Stone]

^^Animals may be my favorite Post-DSOTM Floyd album. With The Wall/Final Cut and WYWH not far behind.

As for pre-DSOTM, Meddle and SFOS.

[jrcsgtpeppers]

^^Animals may be my favorite Post-DSOTM Floyd album. With The Wall/Final Cut and WYWH not far behind.

As for pre-DSOTM, Meddle and SFOS.
Really? I honestly don't care for animals. It was disappointing to me.
DSOTM>The Wall>WYWH>PATGOD (wow..... was that intentional?)>Animals>I don't have any others