Only Thrash Thread. Exclamation Point. Part II.

[narmi]

Anyone picking up the new Machine Head DVD next week?

Should be crushing! :headbang:

[Emenius Sleepus]

The Sleep.

I"m glad you mentioned that since that song rarely ever gets any attention... I definitely agree, at least as far as clean parts and the solo goes,.. that guitar just weeps and tears your heart out!

[SickMetal]

In general, the whole album "Cowboys from Hell" has alot of my favorite guitarwork from Dime.

[Dyer's Eve]

Anyone picking up the new Machine Head DVD next week?

Should be crushing! :headbang:I've not heard a thing about that, I asked HMV about a week ago if they're gettin it in, and it wasn't even on the list :(

Although they than asked me if i had meant 'Machine Men - Elegies'...

I'll ask again. If they stock it, im buyin that mofo day of release.

As far as Dime's best moment...

The end of Floods, it's the moment that made Dime my Idol, and I still stand by that..

Although 10's and Cemetery Gates are also vintage Dime moments...

[gimme_fuel_89]

Why Is Cob Forbidden On Ug, What Makes Discussing It Different From Discussing Any Other Band?????????????????????????????????

[SickMetal]

10's
Forgot about that one, great song.

^^It's forbidden because of the enormous amount of n00bs running around posting CoB threads. CoB threads were spreading like disease before that rule was implemented.

[LedZeppelin]

I"m glad you mentioned that since that song rarely ever gets any attention... I definitely agree, at least as far as clean parts and the solo goes,.. that guitar just weeps and tears your heart out!

It's alright, Message In Blood is better. The Sleep is creepy as hell though.

[gimme_fuel_89]

Yes, I understand that. But why does that forbid us to discuss them ANYWHERE, e.g. HERE.
We're restricted to discussing them in the thrash thread, yet people seem afraid of even that, and I honestly don't see what that has to do with multiple CoB threads.

[SickMetal]

The Sleep is one of my favorite Pantera songs.

[Sanitarium24]

As far as Dime's best moment...

The end of Floods, it's the moment that made Dime my Idol, and I still stand by that..

Although 10's and Cemetery Gates are also vintage Dime moments...

Floods. That song single-handedly made me a Pantera fan.

[narmi]

I've not heard a thing about that, I asked HMV about a week ago if they're gettin it in, and it wasn't even on the list :(

Although they than asked me if i had meant 'Machine Men - Elegies'...

I'll ask again. If they stock it, im buyin that mofo day of release.

As far as Dime's best moment...

The end of Floods, it's the moment that made Dime my Idol, and I still stand by that..

Although 10's and Cemetery Gates are also vintage Dime moments...

I asked my HMV and they said I had to order it as they werent getting any in

The HMV website has a good deal (ww.hmv.co.uk) £12.99 and free UK delivery

Ordered it last night (as well as new Exodus :headbang: ) \m/

Bring on next week!

Yeah the outro to Floods is extremely beautiful

The Sleep kicks ass, especially the solo: sends chills down my spine everytime I hear that

My favourite: Cemetery Gates (was simply blown away beyond belief when I heard it for the first time), Hollow (\m/) and probably Cowboys From Hell because that was the first Pantera song I ever heard :headbang:

[Emenius Sleepus]

^agreed,.. the outro of Floods,.. "weeps"

[reef_d]

What do you guys think of Wargasm?

[SlaytanicBeast]

anyone got the new exodus album? It was in HMV wheni went but i didnt have any money:(

[narmi]

I ordered it with the new Machine Head DVD, should be here next week

Cant wait

[RIP GnR]

Just started listenening to Testament, I have Legacy right now, and i think they're great, as good as Metallica if not better. Anyone have any recommendations to my next Testament CD?

[SickMetal]

"The New Order".

[RIP GnR]

alright thanks, I think someone told me do get that one too. Too bad Testament didn't get as big, I don't know why they aren't.

[SickMetal]

Well, they are one of the biggest thrash bands outside of the big four, it's just that thrash isn't a widely recognized genre.

"Practice What you Preach" is another kickass album, but get New Order first.

[shadows666]

I still think it's gay that people make such a big deal bout CoB being discussed here in the THRASH FORUM!! isn't that where we are supposed to talk about them?!

[SickMetal]

It's just that CoB aren't really thrash, although they do have a few elements. Plus, CoB aren't looked all too highly upon in many metal circles although I find they aren't too bad, they're technically talented which makes them good for a listen.

Does anyone listen to Defiance? I have a few mp3's from their site that are damn good, thoughts?

[Deathbass89]

Does anyone have any information on Dark Angel's new rumored album?

[megakyle]

dude omg i'm gonna cream my pants, a new testament dvd@!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kirkisking]

It's just that CoB aren't really thrash, although they do have a few elements. Plus, CoB aren't looked all too highly upon in many metal circles although I find they aren't too bad, they're technically talented which makes them good for a listen.

Does anyone listen to Defiance? I have a few mp3's from their site that are damn good, thoughts?

Can you give a link to their site?

[narmi]

Let the CoB fans talk about CoB here

If you dont like CoB then just ignore the post, you dont have to reply to the :

"OMG CoB are teh best band eva!!"

Posts

:peace:

[chemicalsolutio]

It's just that CoB aren't really thrash, although they do have a few elements. Plus, CoB aren't looked all too highly upon in many metal circles although I find they aren't too bad, they're technically talented which makes them good for a listen.

Does anyone listen to Defiance? I have a few mp3's from their site that are damn good, thoughts?


\m/ Product Of Society \m/

I completely forgot about them. I like Product of Society and Beyond Recognition. Good Bay Area thrash band and I hear that they got back together and are gonna release a new album soon, so can't wait to see.

There is a HUGE movement of thrash bands coming back : Nuclear Assault, Holy Moses, Defiance, Dark Angel, Assassin, Piledriver, etc. I love it although the new albums aren't really as good as before.

And for Dark Angel's new album, I can't find much info anywhere, so I'm clueless as to when it comes out.

As for Cob. Let people discuss about them here and all we have to do is ignore all posts by not replying and changing subject, or it'll degenerate like last thrash thread where there were more posts about people saying that CoB weren't thrash than actual thrash posts.

[SickMetal]

Yeah, I've been trying to find information about the Dark Angel reuinion but there's nothing anywhere. It's Darkness Returns, right? I can't wait for that!

Has anyone ever heard of Hexen? My friend showed me them, suprisingly from myspace. This made me very wary of them, but it's actually quite good. Killer lead guitarist. http://www.hexenmusic.com/ The stuff I heard from the first demo is pretty poor, but the new EP looks promising. The only songs they have at that website now is a video of a "Hangar 18" cover, but they have lots on here: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=4500906&Mytoken=F1388894-C538-4D3B-8351A4ED2EEC0207322542859

Give 'em a shot.

Kirkisking - look on the first page where chem put up all those links

Yeah - That's the best bet of what to do with CoB.

[reef_d]

so what are the views on the new exodus and destruction albums?

[narmi]

I ordered the new Exodus a couple of days ago, should be here next week with the new MH DVD

\m/

[chemicalsolutio]

Yeah, I've been trying to find information about the Dark Angel reuinion but there's nothing anywhere. It's Darkness Returns, right? I can't wait for that!

Has anyone ever heard of Hexen? My friend showed me them, suprisingly from myspace. This made me very wary of them, but it's actually quite good. Killer lead guitarist. http://www.hexenmusic.com/ The stuff I heard from the first demo is pretty poor, but the new EP looks promising. The only songs they have at that website now is a video of a "Hangar 18" cover, but they have lots on here: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=4500906&Mytoken=F1388894-C538-4D3B-8351A4ED2EEC0207322542859

Give 'em a shot.

Kirkisking - look on the first page where chem put up all those links

Yeah - That's the best bet of what to do with CoB.

Pretty damn good, I added them on the first page. It's hard though nowadays to have a band with the old style vocals, they all go for the old school death/thrash vocals.

As for the new Exodus and Destruction, still haven't got around tol isten to them. How did you find them reef?

[SickMetal]

Yeah, the vocals are damn good. All around kickass band, great leads and cool riffs.

Are the new Exodus and Destruction albums out of are they just leaked?

[Sanitarium24]

I'm pretty sure Exodus was leaked... haven't heard anything about Destruction.

[chemicalsolutio]

Exodus - October 4
Destruction - October 25 ( for North America, but I think it was released in Europe on August 22)

So both are most certainly leaked.

[RideTheLighting]

Cob=overrated

[narmi]

^Thanks for that

Yeah, new Exodus has leaked

[SlaytanicBeast]

Both albums by exodus and destruction are out! Anyone know who the female singer in alliance of hellhoundz is? if your wondering thats the song on inventor of evil.

[RideTheLighting]

Annihilator (Can) : http://www.annihilatormetal.com/audio.htm


Link is not working :(

[Bilzzard_of_Ozz]

Cob=overrated

They're insanely overrated but I still like the occacional listen to them.

[SickMetal]

^^Same.

Does anyone here listen to Voivod? I never thought anything of them, even after Piggy's unfortunate death until my friend/bassist showed me a song of theirs that was damn good. Recommendations?

[grimreaper65]

Watch megadeth live!!!

http://www.10musica.com/micro_site/pepsi/home/programacion.html

Click the red button to the right to get a live feed of the stage. At 9:40 Argentina time Megadeth is playing a live show.

Sweet!

[MartiniKiss7]

^^Same.

Does anyone here listen to Voivod? I never thought anything of them, even after Piggy's unfortunate death until my friend/bassist showed me a song of theirs that was damn good. Recommendations?


They play "tribal convictions" on VH1 classic a lot. It's pretty good, but i don't like the vocals in that song.

[laffyjam]

I just heard Annihalator and Flotsam & Jetsam. They are both really good bands.

[RideTheLighting]

can someone tell me at what time did Hanneman did 23 nps in AOD? like what time in the song?

[Vercingetorix]

can someone tell me at what time did Hanneman did 23 nps in AOD? like what time in the song?

Not sure, probably all of it. :p:

[TheHaunted]

I'm pretty sure Exodus was leaked..

Yes, I have downloaded it, nice album. :headbang: Deathamphetimine :headbang:

[chemicalsolutio]

Link is not working :(

Yeah the website is down since they are making a new one. It'll be back up on October 21st.

^^Same.

Does anyone here listen to Voivod? I never thought anything of them, even after Piggy's unfortunate death until my friend/bassist showed me a song of theirs that was damn good. Recommendations?

Well I listened to an album a while back, I LOVED the guitar riffs and music itself, but vocals were too annoying and I have not listened to it since. I should definitely get to that.

I just heard Annihalator and Flotsam & Jetsam. They are both really good bands.

Both great bands. Annihilator's Alice In Hell and Flotsam's Doomsday for the Deceiver are great albums, and the two bands are wuite underrated (especially Flotsam).


Yes, I have downloaded it, nice album. :headbang: Deathamphetimine :headbang:

I'm downloading it right now, apparently it is a masterpiece. I can't wait to hear it. And I still haven't found a good version of Destruction's Inventor of Evil.

[SickMetal]

I heard a track from the new Exodus album yesterday, it's pretty good.

Voivod vocals seem to be somewhat meh, but I love the riffage. I'll be picking up an album of theirs at some point. I'm interested in getting their latest one, I heard it's more technical and it would be nice to actually hear Jason Newstead play bass.

[shadows666]

^I agree. Jason Newstead is a great bass player. too bad he couldn't show until after he left metallica :D Voivod is alright in small doses IMO, though.

[SickMetal]

It seems like for alot of people, it's either hit or miss. Alot of people just don't dig 'em, but I'm liking what I heard. My friend/bassist is very into them, so I'll be checking more into them.

[chemicalsolutio]

The new Exodus isn't that amazing to be honest. I've only gave it one listen up to now, and really think that the vocals suck. And where's the speed? I hate how all (or almost) lost their speed. I'm pretty sure it's not difficult to make a good album using powerchords and going 100 nps.

I think that the album sounds like something a commercial band would come up with. I'll give it another listen, but besides Deathamphetamine, the rest didn't sound that good.

[SlaytanicBeast]

I think souza is better. raze is rather messy and uses boring riffs heavy yes but sophisticated nea. give me scar spangled banner anytime!!!

[SickMetal]

The new Exodus isn't that amazing to be honest. I've only gave it one listen up to now, and really think that the vocals suck. And where's the speed? I hate how all (or almost) lost their speed. I'm pretty sure it's not difficult to make a good album using powerchords and going 100 nps.
Doesn't sound promising, I'll give it second thoughts now. I have to admit the song I heard from the new album doesn't sound as good from anything I've heard from their last album or their old greats. I'll have to download some of it before buying it then to be safe.

[SlaytanicBeast]

+ the singing is too normal everyday modern thrash!!! ow growl + its sounds kinda crap

[chemicalsolutio]

Sounds like metalcore vocals or something like that very often.

Give me some ****in' 80's thrash!!! can't be that hard to make!

[steee21]

What Flotsam and Jetsam albums does anyone recommend?

[chemicalsolutio]

Hobbs' Angel of Death, now that's some great thrash.

For people that love Slayer and Dark Angel, this is for you.

[chemicalsolutio]

What Flotsam and Jetsam albums does anyone recommend?

the two first ones: Doomsday for The Deceiver and No Place for Disgrace

[shaggy0364]

Hobbs' Angel of Death, now that's some great thrash.


on the tablet it is carved
what you are, we once were
now what we are you will become
in the house of death

*cue maniacal headbanging*

[chemicalsolutio]

on the tablet it is carved
what you are, we once were
now what we are you will become
in the house of death

*cue maniacal headbanging*


\m/ (><) \m/

great stuff

[Dyer's Eve]

I'm feeling the need to ask if anyone got Elegies yet...

I have, and it's ****in great. Watch out for Boris... :P

[shadowofbodom]

just listened to Flotsam and Jetsam. they kick substantial ass

[RideTheLighting]

agreed

[SlaytanicBeast]

i cant find any of their albums either goddamn HMV

[chemicalsolutio]

Better off looking in small record stores

[SlaytanicBeast]

well there is one but its not very good either its mainly well known signed bands. BUt its decent for prices there are cheaper than most places. Virgin is almost like HMV but way more expensive half the time

[shadows666]

Does anyone know the album that slayer plays all in standard tuning because I still can't find anyone who knows what it is so I can go download it!

[SickMetal]

They always tune to Eb, except on some of their newer stuff which isn't half as good.

[Emenius Sleepus]

^yeah, newer Slayer is a lot lower, some cases down to B and drop-B

[shadowofbodom]

ok, so im thinking about getting a Testament album and want to know which one i should start off with: The Legacy or The New Order. from earlier posts im guessing The New Order. whichever one is heavier

[Emenius Sleepus]

^I got The Very Best Of, I think thats what it's called, and it pretty much spans their career,.. I think that's the best one to get for Testament if you want a comparison. And quite a kickass cd to just listen to as well

[Gopher636]

i only have The Gathering. damn good though. dave lombardo on drums, so tahts insane, and Chuck billy's doin Death Metal vocals. but according to UG, the other stuff is as good, but not as good drumming with better solos.

[shadowofbodom]

i didnt know they had a best of, ill definitely check that out.

[SickMetal]

I much prefer old Testament. Skolnick alone makes it better, although the drumming isn't Dave Lombardo standards, obviously. He gets the job done though.

The old is a much thrashier Testament. I'm not a big fan of Chuck Billy doing DM vox either.

[Emenius Sleepus]

^yeah a lot of the fans were kind of alienated by the DM phase,.. but from what I know Testament are over that... Shame that Skolnick not coming back though. Speaking of Skolnick anyone heard his solo material? I know it's a jazz sort of thing but anything specific?

[narmi]

I'm feeling the need to ask if anyone got Elegies yet...

I have, and it's ****in great. Watch out for Boris... :P

I ordered it from the HMV website last week

Not here yet

:(

:sad:

:angry:

[shadows666]

It seems like for alot of people, it's either hit or miss. Alot of people just don't dig 'em, but I'm liking what I heard. My friend/bassist is very into them, so I'll be checking more into them.
good call. led zepplin didn't write tunes that everyone liked, either. they left that to the BeeGee's :D (concerning Voivod)

[Sanitarium24]

I much prefer old Testament. Skolnick alone makes it better, although the drumming isn't Dave Lombardo standards, obviously. He gets the job done though.

The old is a much thrashier Testament. I'm not a big fan of Chuck Billy doing DM vox either.

While I don't like Billy's DM voice, I'm really into it along with the regular singing too on songs like "Low." That stuff has really changed the way I write music.

[chemicalsolutio]

Do not like Billy's harsh vocals?????????????????????

They're brilliant if you ask me, a very nice clean growl.

The Gathering is THE album to get. You might want to check Practice What you Preach and The Legacy for older thrash sounding.

[josefonseca]

Great bands you are listening, but you ever heard about Moonspell?
Take a look in www.moonspell.com.
That band its the greatest portuguese metal band and the more international band we have in Portugal. Take a look and heard that sound.It take you to other dimension.
Some of their letters are about the comunism time we had pass about the 70`s.

[SickMetal]

IMO Billy's thrash metal voice from the 80's >>>>> Growls, like the Gathering.

Same goes for pretty much all of Testament, I liked them alot better back in the day.

[rifftrader]

Hi guys, I read the whole thing about Children of Bodom only being allowed in this thread, so please don't kick me in the teeth for mentioning them... Am I the only one that has noticed that a lot of the solos and breaks from their older albums include some really blatant rip offs from Yngwie Malmsteen? I can't remember off the top of my head which songs I mean (conveniently, some may say), but am I the only one which has noticed this?

[apocalypse13]

^yeah, newer Slayer is a lot lower, some cases down to B and drop-B I heard that Here Comes the Pain has a 7 string tuned a step lower.
Old Slayer > New Slayer

[SickMetal]

^^Definatly.

^^x2 If you could rerember, I'd be interesting in hearing which licks he ripped off. People often say that, but I'm not a big enough fan of Malmsteen to know his material and recognize CoB's plagarism, if that's what it is.

[Vercingetorix]

He does indeed copy a lot from Malmsteen's style.

[SlaytanicBeast]

i dislike COB i got a track are you dead yet on some disk from metalhammer magazine. It wsa nt very impressive hope other stuff is better.

[frozen-dirt]

CoB is ok. I don't like them enough to buy a cd, but they've got some cool songs. Alexi is a sucky vocalist imho.

[LedZeppelin]

Why is everyone so damn obsessed with CoB?? My girlfriend loves them to death, I can't stand them. Pure wankery, and not very good wankery at that.

[Sanitarium24]

Why is everyone so damn obsessed with CoB?? My girlfriend loves them to death, I can't stand them. Pure wankery, and not very good wankery at that.

I agree with everything you just said.

:( Except the girlfriend part.

[shadowofbodom]

oooooook, alexi didnt steal malmsteens rifts. its called classical music. all malmsteen does is play legato and sweep the crap outta them arpeggios.

YAH!!! WHOOO!!! PWNAGE U ASS SPILUNKERS!!! AHAHAHAHA

[LedZeppelin]

oooooook, alexi didnt steal malmsteens rifts. its called classical music. all malmsteen does is play legato and sweep the crap outta them arpeggios.

YAH!!! WHOOO!!! PWNAGE U ASS SPILUNKERS!!! AHAHAHAHA

*spelunkers

If you're going to quote the South Park movie, at least spell correctly.

[RideTheLighting]

now how DID they get so mainstream..

[rifftrader]

oooooook, alexi didnt steal malmsteens rifts. its called classical music. all malmsteen does is play legato and sweep the crap outta them arpeggios.

YAH!!! WHOOO!!! PWNAGE U ASS SPILUNKERS!!! AHAHAHAHA


Well, man, I'm a CoB fan too, and it was me that brought up the malmsteen connection, so try not to get too hurt about my observation. Besides, since when has plagiarism been called classical music? I'm not saying this particular case is definitely plagiarism, as it could be feasible that they both came up with the licks through listening to the same source, but this one song I was looking at, he plays exactly the same notes over the course of something like 4 or 5 bars, proceeding to play the same arpeggios, but in a slightly different sequence, to what malmsteen does over the next few bars.

Either way, it's not such a big deal, I raised the issue as a point of interest. Sickmetal, I'll try and get the particular songs I'm referring to and post them up here as soon as I can.

[IgnoreThis]

Why does everyone hate them? There a good band and IMO dont deserve all the stuff they get from elitists and people who hate them for what alex said about dream theater

COB >>>>> us
COB >> Dream Theater

[shadows666]

Why is everyone so damn obsessed with CoB?? My girlfriend loves them to death, I can't stand them. Pure wankery, and not very good wankery at that.
how are the "pure wankery" as you put it? maybe one of the reasons people like them so much is because they are actually good at what they do and that they have some talent compared to other bands. but that is just my humble opinion, though.

[shadows666]

Why does everyone hate them? There a good band and IMO dont deserve all the stuff they get from elitists and people who hate them for what alex said about dream theater

COB >>>>> us
COB >> Dream Theater

Exactly! he was just voicing his opinion on something just like everyone else does. just because someone doen't like the same music as you is no reason to say that they suck or some **** like that. Grow up a little.

[SickMetal]

Either way, it's not such a big deal, I raised the issue as a point of interest. Sickmetal, I'll try and get the particular songs I'm referring to and post them up here as soon as I can.
Yeh, thanks dude. I enjoy a bit of CoB from time to time, but I'd like to see what everyone's talking about.

I think the hatred of CoB really isn't necessary, but oh well, people speak their minds.

Anyone listen to S.O.D.? I've heard a few tracks and I've got to say, they are THE joke band. "Seasoning the Obese" is the perfect Slayer parody.

[apocalypse13]

how are the "pure wankery" as you put it? maybe one of the reasons people like them so much is because they are actually good at what they do and that they have some talent compared to other bands. but that is just my humble opinion, though.Yes. I haven't ever heard them... but from what I hear they are much better than other bands in terms of talent.

[shaggy0364]

Yes. I haven't ever heard them... but from what I hear they are much better than other bands in terms of talent.

if you mean other metal bands, this is about as far from the truth as possible.

[SickMetal]

Aside from the solos, there isn't much to the average CoB song. I still find them somewhat enjoyable though.

Does anyone here listen to Infernal Majesty? I've been meaning to pick up "None Shall Defy" for quite a while now, do you recommend it? I love the song "S.O.S.", what do you think of them?

[reed]

Infernal Majesty is grand. Started listening to them cause they were Canucks. Anyway, None Shall Defy is definetely worth purchasing.

EDIT: For the record....

Dream Theater >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CoB. And thats the truth.

[shadows666]

Infernal Majesty is grand. Started listening to them cause they were Canucks. Anyway, None Shall Defy is definetely worth purchasing.

EDIT: For the record....

Dream Theater >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CoB. And thats the truth.
That is your opinion.That does not make it the truth. I happen to like both bands so I am not taking sides on the matter.

[DaddyTwoFoot]

No, it is the truth.

[shadows666]

prove it

[DaddyTwoFoot]

Pull Me Under.

Now, this is the thrash thread, back to the thrash.

[shadows666]

wtf is pull me under?

[gimme_fuel_89]

Exactly! he was just voicing his opinion on something just like everyone else does. just because someone doen't like the same music as you is no reason to say that they suck or some **** like that. Grow up a little.

All alexi said was that petrucci taking guitar so seriously and not making any mistakes live, was kind of lame, which it actually is to an extent.
All the DT c*cksuckers on UG were then like "OMGZ, U CANT PAII OUT JOHN PETRUCCI, HE IZ LIKE TEH BEST ALEXI SUKZ COB SUKZ DT = KVLT-AS FVK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As much as I like DT and john petrucci, alexi had a point - and everyone immediately took offense to it. So goddam immature.

[TheHaunted]

Infernal Majesty is grand. Started listening to them cause they were Canucks. Anyway, None Shall Defy is definetely worth purchasing.



Finally someone who listened to me!! I recommened IM a couple of thousand times in the first thrash thread

[chemicalsolutio]

Finally someone who listened to me!! I recommened IM a couple of thousand times in the first thrash thread

hey, I checked them out and loved what I heard. I definitely agree with you, great canadian thrash.

And this is why I didn't want CoB to be discussed in here, 19 posts in a row??? And conversation taking a turn to Dream Theater. Really sad.

[shadows666]

All alexi said was that petrucci taking guitar so seriously and not making any mistakes live, was kind of lame, which it actually is to an extent.
All the DT c*cksuckers on UG were then like "OMGZ, U CANT PAII OUT JOHN PETRUCCI, HE IZ LIKE TEH BEST ALEXI SUKZ COB SUKZ DT = KVLT-AS FVK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As much as I like DT and john petrucci, alexi had a point - and everyone immediately took offense to it. So goddam immature.
Thank you!! Finally someone other than myself thinks the way I do abou this whole Laiho vs. Petrucci thing! they are both great guitarists. enough said.

[narmi]

hey, I checked them out and loved what I heard. I definitely agree with you, great canadian thrash.

And this is why I didn't want CoB to be discussed in here, 19 posts in a row??? And conversation taking a turn to Dream Theater. Really sad.

^^ And so it continues

:haha :haha

[rifftrader]

OK, not to resurrect the dreaded CoB posting frenzy, but the two tunes I happened upon were:

"As Above So Below" - Yngwie Malmsteen
"Kissing the Shadows" - CoB

Make up your own minds. CoB are still really good at what they do, in my humble opinion. Anyway, I hope that this doesn't start a new load of counterproductive posting. Take it easy guys.

[narmi]

Why did you mention Yngwie Malmsteen in a thrash thread?

[rifftrader]

Check the top of page 30 of this thread for the context in which I mentioned Yngwie.

[narmi]

There are only 16 pages for the cool kids... :p:

And I cant be bothered multiplying so give me a link to your post

:peace:

[reed]

That is your opinion.That does not make it the truth. I happen to like both bands so I am not taking sides on the matter.
Sorry man, but me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you so therefore my opinion >>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone elses.

So anyway...

Cyclone Temple anyone? Good early nineties thrash.

[DaddyTwoFoot]

Cyclone Temple anyone? Good early nineties thrash.

:headbang:

[shadows666]

Sorry man, but me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you so therefore my opinion >>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone elses.

Whatever dude, whatever. This subject is closed...

[The UG Squirrel]

OK, not to resurrect the dreaded CoB posting frenzy, but the two tunes I happened upon were:

"As Above So Below" - Yngwie Malmsteen
"Kissing the Shadows" - CoB

Make up your own minds. CoB are still really good at what they do, in my humble opinion. Anyway, I hope that this doesn't start a new load of counterproductive posting. Take it easy guys.

ive only heard yngwie j malmsteens rising force mentioned as shred or power metal, not thrash

[SickMetal]

^^He's talking about the similarities between CoB songs and Yngwie's.

I can see a resemblance, thanks for finding the songs.

[apocalypse13]

if you mean other metal bands, this is about as far from the truth as possible. I see.

[SorrowIsMe]

http://www.buscaloaqui.com/indians.zip


Anthrax - Indians(Live In Puerto Rico)

Great quality too :)

[sonofbeast]

this is a pretty sweet forum

keep up the thrashin.

ROCK ON

[deadskinmask]

Thanks for the update. We didn't know it was such a good forum.....

I'l watch that Anthrax video later. I'm watching a Martyr concert now.

[RideTheLighting]

Burton=Harris

[TheHaunted]

Burton=Harris

Since when?

[jewishosama]

Who here digs Exhorder? im curious, cause im jammin out to Slaughter in the Vatican right now. It rules.

[chemicalsolutio]

Who here digs Exhorder? im curious, cause im jammin out to Slaughter in the Vatican right now. It rules.

Slaughter in the vatican kicks ass. Nice fast aggressive thrash. But The Law is more groove like Pantera and kind of sucks.

[apocalypse13]

Burton=HarrisHarris>Burton

[IgnoreThis]

Harris>Burton, but they both pwn.

[raise_the_dead]

Hey I need some help....

I got this song, which is entitled God Hates Us All and it's supposed to be by slayer, but it doesn't sound like them , more like Kreator actually. Anyone know what it's really called so I can have it renamed?

[jewishosama]

No, its definately Slayer, off of their album of the same name. It doesnt sound like Slayer, but it is.

Edit: Actually, the song is called "Disciple". I just remembered. whoops

[shadows666]

^That's a cool song IMO

[DaddyTwoFoot]

Harris>Burton

But Cliff was a BAMF.

[raise_the_dead]

No, its definately Slayer, off of their album of the same name. It doesnt sound like Slayer, but it is.

Edit: Actually, the song is called "Disciple". I just remembered. whoops

That can't be, because I have another song by em called Disciple, and it doesn't sound like God Hates Us All. And I checked out the lyrics to Disciple, and they definitely fit Disciple but not God Hates Us All.

[Sanitarium24]

I'm guessing all this music is downloaded. Buying the actual cd might solve all your problems.

[TheHaunted]

That can't be, because I have another song by em called Disciple, and it doesn't sound like God Hates Us All. And I checked out the lyrics to Disciple, and they definitely fit Disciple but not God Hates Us All.

When you show us the lyrics maybe we can solve your problem? I think it's a song of the album GHUA

[shadows666]

That can't be, because I have another song by em called Disciple, and it doesn't sound like God Hates Us All. And I checked out the lyrics to Disciple, and they definitely fit Disciple but not God Hates Us All.
If I remember correctly, but I probably don't, The album is called GHUA but I don't think they have a song titled that, but hey it's like 7 in the morning and I just woke up so i really don't know much right now so I'm probably wrong...

[shadows666]

Does Kerry King use anything besides BC Rich guitar's?

[narmi]

Does Kerry King use anything besides BC Rich guitar's?

I think he uses ESPs on occasion, but mainly BC Rich's

And Disciple is a song on GHUA with a chorus that goes:

"God Hates Us All!!"

So it is possible that the n00b you downloaded it from called it 'God Hates Us All'

The only good song on GHUA :haha

[shadows666]

I think he uses ESPs on occasion, but mainly BC Rich's

And Disciple is a song on GHUA with a chorus that goes:

"God Hates Us All!!"

So it is possible that the n00b you downloaded it from called it 'God Hates Us All'

The only good song on GHUA :haha

I agree! I know he has a Signature BC Rich but I can't find any of his Sig. ESP's

[narmi]

I dont think he has any sig ESPs - just uses them on occasion

I'm not 100% sure, but I think I have seen pictures of him using an ESP before

Actually, I haven't seen the Seasons In The Abyss video for years, he may be using one on that - check that out

[shadows666]

I dont think he has any sig ESPs - just uses them on occasion

I'm not 100% sure, but I think I have seen pictures of him using an ESP before

Actually, I haven't seen the Seasons In The Abyss video for years, he may be using one on that - check that out
Cool. thanks for the info.

[raise_the_dead]

When you show us the lyrics maybe we can solve your problem? I think it's a song of the album GHUA

No, it's not Disciple, and it doesn't sound like something off GHUA- heck it doesn't even sound like Slayer!

It sounds like Kreator a bit, i guess, it's most definitely thrash.

[narmi]

No, it's not Disciple, and it doesn't sound like something off GHUA- heck it doesn't even sound like Slayer!

It sounds like Kreator a bit, i guess, it's most definitely thrash.

Chorus?

Riff?

Some more info would help....

[LedZeppelin]

Why does everyone hate them? There a good band and IMO dont deserve all the stuff they get from elitists and people who hate them for what alex said about dream theater

COB >>>>> us
COB >> Dream Theater


That's because Alex is a stuck-up elitist himself who thinks CoB is the best and most talented band on the metal scene now. I'd like to see him try to keep up with John Petrucci or any of the guys from Decapitated.

[narmi]

1) Decapitated get boring after a while
2) Why do we have to go through CoB discussions again??

:(

[TheHaunted]

I'm feeling the need to ask if anyone got Elegies yet...

I have, and it's ****in great. Watch out for Boris... :P

Yes, I have Elegies and I like it a lot, but who's Boris?

[Sanitarium24]

COB >> Dream Theater


Congratulations. You're going to hell. Dream Theater is easily one of the most talented bands out there.

Anyways, anyone like Metal Church? My favorite albums are "Metal Church" and "Blessing in Disguise."

[shadows666]

Metal Church owns!! They rock live!! They came to my town with 3 inches of blood!!

[Dyer's Eve]

Yes, I have Elegies and I like it a lot, but who's Boris? I meant Rufus...

I'm terrible at names :p:

[Emenius Sleepus]

Congratulations. You're going to hell. Dream Theater is easily one of the most talented bands out there.

Anyways, anyone like Metal Church? My favorite albums are "Metal Church" and "Blessing in Disguise."

Damn straight he is! CoB aren't such a bad band, but Dream Theater pwns them with just one Petrucci's finger on a fretboard. I think though he is going to heaven - where the only things you can play are harps.... and Children Of Bodom...

[The Hiryuu]

Not to sound like the n00b I am, but would crossover stuff like D.R.I. and Municipal Waste fall into the thrash thread, or would they apply to the hardcore forum?

[deadskinmask]

Hey I need some help....

I got this song, which is entitled God Hates Us All and it's supposed to be by slayer, but it doesn't sound like them , more like Kreator actually. Anyone know what it's really called so I can have it renamed?

It's Dark Angel - Darkness Descends. I had the EXACT same problem as you. I posted it before the thrash thread was around and I stated that I knew it wasn't Slayer yet everyone still said it was Slayer.....

Anyways, if the song is about 5:52 seconds long and it has a trilling riff in the beginning, and a solo switch-off later in the song then it is definately Dark Angel - Darkness Descends.

Lyrics for Darkness Descends (http://darklyrics.com/lyrics/darkangel/darknessdescends.html#1)

Lyrics for Disciple(2nd song down) (http://darklyrics.com/lyrics/slayer/godhatesusall.html#2)



The only good song on GHUA :haha

Meh, I think God Send Death is alright.

[narmi]

Meh, I think God Send Death is alright.


Actually I really liked GHUA for a while, but then I got bored of it

I listen to:

Darkness of Christ
Disciple
^Such a cool way to start the album AND a live gig :headbang:
Bloodline
Here Comes The Pain
Payback

It isn't that bad actually, but the songs that suck on the album - [i]really[i] suck

Hopefully the next album will be crushing :headbang:

They've had long enough to take in all the feedback from GHUA

[gimme_fuel_89]

^^agreed.

You also have to give credit to warzone and exile for sheer brutality though.

I can't wait till the next album, I hope they tour aus

[raise_the_dead]

It's Dark Angel - Darkness Descends. I had the EXACT same problem as you. I posted it before the thrash thread was around and I stated that I knew it wasn't Slayer yet everyone still said it was Slayer.....

Anyways, if the song is about 5:52 seconds long and it has a trilling riff in the beginning, and a solo switch-off later in the song then it is definately Dark Angel - Darkness Descends.


Meh, I think God Send Death is alright.


Thanks so much man.... Yeah I think that's it, it fits the description pretty much....

Hey Bloodline is pretty cool as well, folks.

[IgnoreThis]

Dream Theater is easily one of the most talented bands out there.

I know! guitar wise, john>>>>>alex, and even though i DO like DT, i just prefer COB, thats all

I'll stop with the COB talk now.

[narmi]

Yes, I have Elegies and I like it a lot, but who's Boris?

:headbang:

Best music DVD out there IMO

[masterofpuppet]

Is 3 inches of blood thrash and are they any good?

[unfathomable_bo]

They be power methinks

[SickMetal]

Darkness Descends > Anything I've heard from GHUA. I don't actually have the album, it doesn't seem worth it.

[masterofpuppet]

They be power methinks


yea i kinda thought so. thanks.

[narmi]

Darkness Descends > Anything I've heard from GHUA. I don't actually have the album, it doesn't seem worth it.

Darkness Descends can only be compared to RIB, SITA and SOH

[The UG Squirrel]

i finally got the legacy today, its an awesome album. Should my second testament album be the new order, or practice what you preach?

[Sanitarium24]

i finally got the legacy today, its an awesome album. Should my second testament album be the new order, or practice what you preach?

Both. But if you can only get one get Practice What You Preach.

[TheHaunted]

Actually I really liked GHUA for a while, but then I got bored of it

Hopefully the next album will be crushing :headbang:

They've had long enough to take in all the feedback from GHUA

Slayer don't care much about feedback, they're just doing their thing.
I think the new album will be a killer, cause Dave's back :headbang:

[RideTheLighting]

can someone reccomend some Death Angel?

[DaddyTwoFoot]

Get The Ultra-Violence.

[Yeah Dude]

yes thats their best

[grimreaper65]

Is atheist thrash? If they are, best album?

[Emenius Sleepus]

Slayer don't care much about feedback, they're just doing their thing.
I think the new album will be a killer, cause Dave's back :headbang:


Amen to that:headbang:,.. that's why Slayer is so loved, they are doing what they're doing, and they didn't let trends rule what they're doing... unlike some other bands in that genre... not naming any names, but they start with M i think

[gimme_fuel_89]

Amen to that:headbang:,.. that's why Slayer is so loved, they are doing what they're doing, and they didn't let trends rule what they're doing... unlike some other bands in that genre... not naming any names, but they start with M i think

I respect the fact that slayer haven't changed their format in over 20 years, but if a band decides to take new directions in their music for whatever reason, I think it's really unfair to say that, that decision is made on the sole basis of following a trend, or money or something dishonourable like that.
If a group doesn't wish to repeat itself, it doesn't have to.
If metallica decided to leave out guitar solo's and drop tune in st anger for the sake of trying something new, they can't be criticized.

Unfortunately not many people in the metal world are open minded, and that's why they label a band a "sellout" the moment they try something different.

[chemicalsolutio]

Is atheist thrash? If they are, best album?

nope, they're death metal with jazz elements.

[chemicalsolutio]

can someone reccomend some Death Angel?

Ultra-Violence for thrash, if you want something that's a bit more rock oriented but has its moments, you can get Act III

[chemicalsolutio]

Darkness Descends can only be compared to RIB, SITA and SOH

And even there, Darkness Descends is way too good.

[TheHaunted]

I've read in 'Aardschok' that Death Angel broke up again. Anthrax vocalist John Bush has left the band. And Max Cavalera is not negative about a reunion with Sepultura.

[chemicalsolutio]

I've read in 'Aardschok' that Death Angel broke up again. Anthrax vocalist John Bush has left the band. And Max Cavalera is not negative about a reunion with Sepultura.

hmmm, doesn't say on their website nor MA...

[reed]

I respect the fact that slayer haven't changed their format in over 20 years, but if a band decides to take new directions in their music for whatever reason, I think it's really unfair to say that, that decision is made on the sole basis of following a trend, or money or something dishonourable like that.
If a group doesn't wish to repeat itself, it doesn't have to.
If metallica decided to leave out guitar solo's and drop tune in st anger for the sake of trying something new, they can't be criticized.

Unfortunately not many people in the metal world are open minded, and that's why they label a band a "sellout" the moment they try something different.
I think I speak for the majority of metalheads when I say that I didn't like Saint Anger, not because they tried new stuff, but because it was a total sack of ****.

EDIT: Sorry, my apologies, this isn't the Metallica only thread.

So, new band.

Who's heard of Carnivore? Somebody mentioned them to me awhile back and I don't know whether or not to investegate... they were compared to Nuclear Assault so they can't be that bad lol. The reason I'm asking though is I'm worried they might be a little heavy on the punk/hardcore, and I don't like that much at all in my thrash.

[chemicalsolutio]

Carnivore kicks ass. And I may be mistaken, but aren't they coming back together? I thought I heard some news about them not long ago.

[deadskinmask]

^I know nothing about Carnivore so I did a search on them and found that they are from Brooklyn and after their second album disbanded and later formed a different band. I read that they have hardcore elements in their music. If so, what about them is hardcore?

On another note, I own Testament - Practice What You Preach, and have always sensed a flaw with the album but I couldn't really put my finger on it. I love most of the solo's, and the vocals and riffs are good but I eventually noticed that it wasn't very upbeat as an album. So my question is: what would be their best album for level of thrashness?

[reed]

Yeah, how heavy are they on the crossover? I think Nuclear Assault is as far as I can go for crossover thrash before I stop liking it... but that might not be the case.

Another thing, who here enjoys the Hobb's Angel of Death? Mighty fine German (I think lol... they were on Steamhammer so I'm pretty sure they're German) thrash I must say.

[shaggy0364]

Another thing, who here enjoys the Hobb's Angel of Death? Mighty fine German (I think lol... they were on Steamhammer so I'm pretty sure they're German) thrash I must say.

not german, australian. but awesome, nonetheless.

[reed]

OK. i guess that was a bit of a shot in the dark... but still slay!

Do you know much about Carnivore?

[chemicalsolutio]

^I know nothing about Carnivore so I did a search on them and found that they are from Brooklyn and after their second album disbanded and later formed a different band. I read that they have hardcore elements in their music. If so, what about them is hardcore?

On another note, I own Testament - Practice What You Preach, and have always sensed a flaw with the album but I couldn't really put my finger on it. I love most of the solo's, and the vocals and riffs are good but I eventually noticed that it wasn't very upbeat as an album. So my question is: what would be their best album for level of thrashness?

I do not know about the hardcore elements, I don't think that's correct info unless its on a demo or single album. But Carnivore is not the kind of fast aggressive thrash, there are a lot of slow parts and the music is usually fun.

As for Testament, if I remember well, they never really did anything very fast, The Legacy is probably a bit faster, but not by much imo. And the latter stuff like Low and The Gathering weren't very fast either.

[chemicalsolutio]

Yeah, how heavy are they on the crossover? I think Nuclear Assault is as far as I can go for crossover thrash before I stop liking it... but that might not be the case.

Another thing, who here enjoys the Hobb's Angel of Death? Mighty fine German (I think lol... they were on Steamhammer so I'm pretty sure they're German) thrash I must say.

Great great band. In the veins of Slayer, Dark Angel and Blood Feast....the real stuff.

[mer_der_noms]

I have a question...could you classify Mastodon as Thrash Metal? Cause they dont seem to fit into Metalcore/Hardcore?...just wondering

[shadows666]

What's testament's hardest album because I want to get it.

[IgnoreThis]

I have a question...could you classify Mastodon as Thrash Metal? Cause they dont seem to fit into Metalcore/Hardcore?...just wondering

I usually hear them classed as Stoner Metal

[SickMetal]

I can't really classify Mastodon too easily. Definatly not thrash, but not metalcore either.

I finally got Darkness Descends and Fabulous Disaster in the mail :headbang:

[narmi]

I have a question...could you classify Mastodon as Thrash Metal? Cause they dont seem to fit into Metalcore/Hardcore?...just wondering

'Boring' Metal

:cheers:

[Vercingetorix]

'Boring' Metal

:cheers:

Says the Machinehead fan...... :p:

Just kidding.

[narmi]

Says the Machinehead fan...... :p:

Just kidding.


:eek:


:angry:

lol

Yeah, I bought their new album hoping for metal perfection and something that was going to blow me away - just like everyone was saying.

I was very disappointed with it, I listened to it a couple of times trying to force myself to like it but it just didn't click

Blood and Thunder is a good song, but I can't listen to them now - sooo boring IMO

[mer_der_noms]

I like Blood and Thunder...Leviathon was a good album in my opinion..but only in small dosages..Iron Tusk and Megalodon were good songs as well..I just did get into them not to long ago..I didnt post because I was unsure of what they were classified as..

[Dyer's Eve]

Yeah, I bought their new album hoping for metal perfection and something that was going to blow me away - just like everyone was saying.

I was very disappointed with it, I listened to it a couple of times trying to force myself to like it but it just didn't click

Blood and Thunder is a good song, but I can't listen to them now - sooo boring IMO :eek:

Mastodon own ye

:p:

If Leviathan ain't heavy enough for ya, check out Remission.

PS. Just discovered youre my top neighbour on lastfm... go figure


Staying with thrash

Is Shovel Headed Kill Machine worth £11?

[SickMetal]

Mastodon is a good band, I quite enjoy "Leviathon". I can't listen to it too often though, it gets old in large doses, as you said. I've been meaning to look into "Remission". Overated, but still kickass.

[narmi]

:eek:

Mastodon own ye

:p:

If Leviathan ain't heavy enough for ya, check out Remission.

PS. Just discovered youre my top neighbour on lastfm... go figure


Staying with thrash

Is Shovel Headed Kill Machine worth £11?

:haha

Damn, similar taste to a degenerate like you..... :p:

It came with my copy of Elegies last week - listened to it once and first impression was: worth a download. I need to listen to it again, some good moments but Tempo is 5 times the album. I loved Tempo from the very first listen, Shovel may be a grower, time will tell.

Remission is actually better IMO, some good tracks on that March of the Fire Ants, Where Strides The Behemoth.

PS: whats your username on lastfm?

[Dyer's Eve]

The_Noonster

Cheers, I think i'll go for Tempo first then (Out of the choice of two... meh)

[Gopher636]

And the latter stuff like Low and The Gathering weren't very fast either.
maybe im missing somehting, but the gathering is pretty damn fast.
DNR, Legions of the Dead, Fall of Sipledome, are all fast.
3 days in darknes, Down for Life and eyes of Wrath have their moments.
overall its pretty...wait, its not overly fast. but its pretty heavy/hard hitting, so the other guy should get that. as long as you dont mind the DM vocals.

[deadskinmask]

I love most DM vocals, so chance's are I will really like it. I'l have to check it out then.

[SorrowIsMe]

Just listening to Holy Wars.........:headbang:

[chemicalsolutio]

maybe im missing somehting, but the gathering is pretty damn fast.
DNR, Legions of the Dead, Fall of Sipledome, are all fast.
3 days in darknes, Down for Life and eyes of Wrath have their moments.
overall its pretty...wait, its not overly fast. but its pretty heavy/hard hitting, so the other guy should get that. as long as you dont mind the DM vocals.

Legions of The Dead is the only fast song of the album.

When I say fast, I mean fast, if you listened to a lot of thrash you'd know.

[GoodCharloteSux]

I got a question whats teh difference between modern day thrash and metalcore?

[shadows666]

Sorry to bring this up but I gotta know. Why do the majority of the people on this site hate Children of Bodom? And don't just say they suck. tell me why you think they suck because I am sick of seeing posts were people say bands suck for no apparent reason other than they don't like them. please be respectful about this and I shall return the respect back.

[GoodCharloteSux]

^ because they are the backstreetboys to pop, what green day is to pop punk, that face. they are an easy target and most n00b metalheads have an infatuation with them.

[aaronreinsmith]

that list brought back old memories, some from school too much reading lol igot lost in it do you consider moterhead thrash i dont but love em very much orgasmatron would play till the tape wore out was slayer listed i found death angel act III in detroit few years back was a great day here's a few i can remember offhand - exodus, nuclear assult, MOD, SOD (stormtroopers of Death), rigor mortis, overkill, seputurra, misfits-samhain-dansig(not quite thrash but its glenn). this makes me feel like chewing on a little piece of paper thanks for the memories

[shadows666]

^ because they are the backstreetboys to pop, what green day is to pop punk, that face. they are an easy target and most n00b metalheads have an infatuation with them.

I would like to point out that I am not a n00b and furthermore, how are they like pop? just because they're good doesn't automatically make them any less likable than other bands that aren't as mainstream.

[Dyer's Eve]

I would like to point out that I am not a n00b and furthermore, how are they like pop? just because they're good doesn't automatically make them any less likable than other bands that aren't as mainstream.He's saying that they are to Extreme Metal and say... Metallica are to Thrash, or Dream Theater are for Prog Metal, Theyre the band the 'n00bs' first hear about.

[shadows666]

He's saying that they are to Extreme Metal and say... Metallica are to Thrash, or Dream Theater are for Prog Metal, Theyre the band the 'n00bs' first hear about.

Good point. I got my friend into it and I now wished I had let him find them on his own because he compares everything metal to CoB and it is annoying. I love the band but I love other bands as well.

[DaddyTwoFoot]

Sorry to bring this up but I gotta know. Why do the majority of the people on this site hate Children of Bodom? And don't just say they suck. tell me why you think they suck because I am sick of seeing posts were people say bands suck for no apparent reason other than they don't like them. please be respectful about this and I shall return the respect back.

I think that Alexi is a fruit, and his vox have no substance. His guitar work is boring and uninspired, and the rest of the band is just there.

[shadows666]

I think that Alexi is a fruit, and his vox have no substance. His guitar work is boring and uninspired, and the rest of the band is just there.

Thank you for at least explaining why you hate them.

[gimme_fuel_89]

^ because they are the backstreetboys to pop, what green day is to pop punk, that face. they are an easy target and most n00b metalheads have an infatuation with them.

That's a big generalisation.

And even if it is partially true, there are also alot of veteran metalheads that admire them.

With catchy riffs and melodies, and great technical musicianship, there's alot going for them.
I also find alot of alexi's guitar work to be very emotive and well thought out.
Just listen to the everytime I die solo, and tell me that's uninspired.

Alexi's vocals are a bit raspy, yes, but I find them more pleasurable than those demonic death grunts. And unlike alot of those death/black bands, he actually sings some of the time as well.

[Metal_Militia2]

Anthrax+Annihilator= Thrash PWN.
sdcscfaws

[Metal_Militia2]

Anthrax+Annihilator= Thrash PWN.
hhh

[deadskinmask]

^wtf?

On the Children Of Bodom discussion, I think that they are over rated, but that doesn't mean they are bad. I think they are fairly talented, and have some good songs. Other than that, there is not much to say about them. I haven't heard them do anything truely amazing.

[chemicalsolutio]

that list brought back old memories, some from school too much reading lol igot lost in it do you consider moterhead thrash i dont but love em very much orgasmatron would play till the tape wore out was slayer listed i found death angel act III in detroit few years back was a great day here's a few i can remember offhand - exodus, nuclear assult, MOD, SOD (stormtroopers of Death), rigor mortis, overkill, seputurra, misfits-samhain-dansig(not quite thrash but its glenn). this makes me feel like chewing on a little piece of paper thanks for the memories

my pleasure

[chemicalsolutio]

I got a question whats teh difference between modern day thrash and metalcore?

Well I must agree that there are some modern thrash band that I do not consider thrash because of the metalcore influences. As you know, thrash is practically dead, we'll never really get thrash like in the old days. Thrash nowadays has harsher vocals (not death metal, but way harsher than before), and the riffs are often more technical than before. Decades ago, bands would rely a lot on powerchords and speed whereas today alot of bands try to show that they know how to play the guitar by inventing some more complicated riffs. But they all lose a lot of speed and attitude.

If you listen to modern thrash and metalcore, you will notice that the riffs are different, the structure and speed and melodies (especially) won't be the same. Thrash would have a bit less melody than metalcore. Metalcore in its riffs can sometimes resemble to melodic death. And the metalcore vocals are screamed, where you don't hear much what the singer says, whereas thrash has only harsh vocals but that are not screamed/screached.

Sometimes bands will fuse thrash with metalcore which makes it a bit harder to differenciate, but one thing's for sure, you're better off listening to old thrash :P

[GoodCharloteSux]

^ lol I am an old thrash fan for the most part. But some stuff like A Perfect Murder I couldve swore was Thrash but because of the vocals its put in metalcore just annoys me how the difference between some of these bands is so narrow I cant tell. I mean you take The Haunted and then For e.g. As I Lay Dying (not a fan dont worry) and at first glance they sound a bit similar atleast the style. I mean if you break it down its not the same but at first ear its what it is in my mind, metal. IMO some SOME metalcore should be discussed in the thrash thread. I know your king of this thread and you wouldnt like it probably lol

[chemicalsolutio]

^ lol I am an old thrash fan for the most part. But some stuff like A Perfect Murder I couldve swore was Thrash but because of the vocals its put in metalcore just annoys me how the difference between some of these bands is so narrow I cant tell. I mean you take The Haunted and then For e.g. As I Lay Dying (not a fan dont worry) and at first glance they sound a bit similar atleast the style. I mean if you break it down its not the same but at first ear its what it is in my mind, metal. IMO some SOME metalcore should be discussed in the thrash thread. I know your king of this thread and you wouldnt like it probably lol

Never to be discussed in this thread :peace:

[aaronreinsmith]

been out of the loop for awhile. but, i saw a video the other day and it was Slayer video titled the song as "Raining Blood" sounded like "Reign in Blood" to me does anyone know about this or was i trippin (man was i pissed) think it was a concert footage video

my favorite slayer moment was waiting in line for Slayer/Testament in Flint back in '90 with these religeous nuts doing these skits about the devil and ****(what i can't say shi*). man did we have fun with them. (got married met my wifes uncle who is a preacher in the same area of Flint, i don't mention this to him he was probly their leader man its a small world)
Now i have 3 teenagers who listen to Rap (i make them listen to my stuff whenever possible, S.T., Rage, Misfits don't want to go to hard core) but i just let them decide for themselves, my parents never censorred my music i wont theirs. Practice what you preach.

[SickMetal]

The song is "Raining Blood" but the album that it's on is "Reign in Blood", and he does say "Reign in Blood" at the end of the song.

[chemicalsolutio]

The song is "Raining Blood" but the album that it's on is "Reign in Blood", and he does say "Reign in Blood" at the end of the song.

I like the new avatar :cheers:

[SickMetal]

:cheers: Why thanks, I finally got the album and I've been loving it :headbang:

[aaronreinsmith]

The song is "Raining Blood" but the album that it's on is "Reign in Blood", and he does say "Reign in Blood" at the end of the song.


thanks i must have been trippin back then (oh ya i was) didn't remember it that way don't doubt it though, must have just assumed it was a title track, dam burnouts need to learn to read i guess, was more into the king/hannaman guitar battles geraldo must not have told me the words LOL

MAN DO I FEEL STUPID SORRY GUYS!!!!!thought the coorporations had changed it on me, you know how they like to rewrite history and all

[SlaytanicBeast]

from what ive read of darkness descends by dark angel is the drumming is really really good BUT the riffs are pretty ****? is that true?

[shaggy0364]

from what ive read of darkness descends by dark angel is the drumming is really really good BUT the riffs are pretty ****? is that true?

right about the drumming, wrong about the riffs. it's probably the best thrash album ever recorded; the riffs are absolutely crushing.

[deadskinmask]

Yes, excellent riffs, just the recording of the guitar tracks could be a little better.

[SickMetal]

Killer album, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the riffs and the drumming is great. I suggest greatly that you pick it up.

I don't think the production is as bad as it is raw. I like the sound the record has in general.

@ aaronreinsmith: Haha, it's no problem. Glad to help out :cheers:

[chemicalsolutio]

Well produciton on the album isn't very good, but was it for any other good thrash albums back in the days? (not talking of the big bands)

That's a thing that's nice about it, good production sometimes just doesn't fit with the music, it's like black metal.

[Scourge441]

Are Nevermore thrash? Someone referred to them as thrash in the Nevermore thread.

Either way, they rule.

Anyway, on to a couple of things I know are thrash:

1) I need to decide A)Which Slayer album to get next (I have Reign In Blood), and B)Which Metallica album to get next (I have Master Of Puppets). I've narrowed down my Metallica choices to Kill 'Em All and Ride The Lightning(not gonna get anything post-Cliff just yet), but I know nothing about Slayer's other albums. Suggestions?

2) I recently acquired a copy of Testament's Demonic. How does it compare to their other albums?

[shadows666]

Are Nevermore thrash? Someone referred to them as thrash in the Nevermore thread.

Either way, they rule.

Anyway, on to a couple of things I know are thrash:

1) I need to decide A)Which Slayer album to get next (I have Reign In Blood), and B)Which Metallica album to get next (I have Master Of Puppets). I've narrowed down my Metallica choices to Kill 'Em All and Ride The Lightning(not gonna get anything post-Cliff just yet), but I know nothing about Slayer's other albums. Suggestions?

2) I recently acquired a copy of Testament's Demonic. How does it compare to their other albums?
For Metallica, I'd go with Kill 'em All. Very good thrash. For slayer, try Seasons in the Abyss.

[SickMetal]

I wouldn't call Nevermore thrash myself.

From the little I've heard, Testament's Demonic is one of their more DM influenced albums. I prefer their earlier stuff with Alex Skolnick, IMO Chuck's voice was better, and the solos are KILLER. Check out "The New Order", "Practice What You Preach", and "The Legacy" (The latter of which I don't own yet, but it's one of their most highly acclaimed records).

[megakyle]

anyone seen the new testament dvd???

[TheHaunted]

1) I need to decide A)Which Slayer album to get next (I have Reign In Blood), and B)Which Metallica album to get next (I have Master Of Puppets). I've narrowed down my Metallica choices to Kill 'Em All and Ride The Lightning(not gonna get anything post-Cliff just yet), but I know nothing about Slayer's other albums. Suggestions?


For Slayer try Hell Awaits. It's as genius as RIB and it has also a lot of speed in it. You can also try Divine Intervention. IMO the songs on it are some kind of summary of their albums before that album. You only have to get used to the more 'modern' production.

For Metallica Ride the Lightning sounds more like Master of Puppets, but Kill 'm all is also great (especially the bass solo).

[Sanitarium24]

For the metallica albums, you can't go wrong either way.

For Slayer you may also want to look into Seasons in the Abyss, although it's nowhere near the speed of the earlier albums.

And as for Testament's "Demonic" don't even bother with it if your looking for thrash. Get one of their better albums like SickMetal said.

[Dyer's Eve]

Slayer, Definitely Seasons, I couldn't tell you whether I prefer that or Reign...

Metallica, Go for any of the first 4, you can't make a mistake.

[GoodCharloteSux]

Metallica go for AJFA, its my favorite

I dont like slayer so I cant reccomend anything of theirs sorry

[Scourge441]

Thanks, guys. I'm probably gonna go with Kill 'Em All and Seasons In The Abyss.

[DaddyTwoFoot]

For Slayer, I would've recommended South of Heaven. I love that down-tempo Sabbath vibe they have on it.

[narmi]

Thanks, guys. I'm probably gonna go with Kill 'Em All and Seasons In The Abyss.

Seasons In The Abyss and Master of Puppets

Two of my favourite thrash albums ever.

[SickMetal]

^^ :p: He said he already had MOP and was asking for more.

[Vercingetorix]

Are Nevermore thrash? Someone referred to them as thrash in the Nevermore thread.

Either way, they rule.

Anyway, on to a couple of things I know are thrash:

1) I need to decide A)Which Slayer album to get next (I have Reign In Blood), and B)Which Metallica album to get next (I have Master Of Puppets). I've narrowed down my Metallica choices to Kill 'Em All and Ride The Lightning(not gonna get anything post-Cliff just yet), but I know nothing about Slayer's other albums. Suggestions?

2) I recently acquired a copy of Testament's Demonic. How does it compare to their other albums?

I think Nevermore are thrash, just a bit different than the usual.

Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss or South of Heaven

Metallica - Definetely Ride the Lightning

[Sickwithline6]

Thanks, guys. I'm probably gonna go with Kill 'Em All and Seasons In The Abyss.


That a boy.
But you should also get Ride the Lightning

[narmi]

^^ :p: He said he already had MOP and was asking for more.

:p:

My mistake.....make that AJFA and SITA

:haha

[homair]

i went to music live today and kerry king was there! it made me laugh because he isn't as big as i thought he was but i got his autograph and shook his hand. i'm not a huge kerry king fan but it was f*cking cool seeing him there. i was going to ask him to sign my metro newspaper too so i could sell it on ebay but for some reason i didn't.

[frozen-dirt]

They play the radio on fridays in my school cafeteria, and of course, they usually have r&b or some poppish music playing. So I was listening to my headphones and my friend signals to me to take them off. I took them off, and too my surprise, there was double bass blasting out of the PA system! I didn't know the song, but he said it was something by Anthrax. The song was pretty cool, but the best part was people yelling to turn it off.

[Sanitarium24]

They play the radio on fridays in my school cafeteria, and of course, they usually have r&b or some poppish music playing. So I was listening to my headphones and my friend signals to me to take them off. I took them off, and too my surprise, there was double bass blasting out of the PA system! I didn't know the song, but he said it was something by Anthrax. The song was pretty cool, but the best part was people yelling to turn it off.

:headbang: HELLS YEAH :headbang:

That kicks ass. I've been dying to hijack the PA at my school for a while and blast some metal out of it. Although I would probably play some DM as opposed to thrash, mainly to scare more piss out of people.


Anyways, I love Anthrax. :)

[deadskinmask]

I used to be a big fan of Anthrax but grew out of them. Seeing them live was cool though.

Anyways, quick question: Did Children of Bodom cover Fear of the Dark? I don't think they are thrash, but they are to be talked about in here anyways.

[gimme_fuel_89]

Here's a full list of CoB cover songs

Aces High, by Iron Maiden
Bed of Nails, by Alice Cooper
Don't Stop at the Top, by Scorpions
Hellion, by W.A.S.P.
Latomeri, by Klamydia
Mass Hypnosis, by Sepultura
No Commands, by Stone
Oops!... I Did It Again, by Britney Spears
Rebel Yell, by Billy Idol
She Is Beautiful, by Andrew W. K.
Shot In the Dark, by Ozzy Osbourne
Silent Scream, by Slayer
Somebody Put Something In My Drink, by Ramones
Talk Dirty to Me, by Poison
Waiting, by King Diamond

So, no they didn't cover fear of the dark.

CoB are pretty thrashy, so it does make sense for them to be spoken about here.
A MDM thread would be more suitable though, I don't know why spike closed the last one.

[deadskinmask]

Well, I have a song on my computer labeled as Fear of the Dark by Children of Bodom, but I couldn't find that they had covered it anywhere. The vocals don't even really sound like Alex Laiho anyways, being the main reason I asked. Thanks anyways though.

[IgnoreThis]

^Theres a Cradle of Filth cover of fear of the dark floating around Kazaa which has been labelled a CoB song, so that could be the one. Are there violins in the quiet part after the intro? If so, its the Cof cover.