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The_Strat_Man
07-28-2005, 04:32 PM
I felt it was time for a new one of these, seeing as I've seen more and more people wanting and tyring to learn theory here. Plus, this thing is only beneficial. Let's see... Oh yeah, rules.

You post a lick, or a chord, or a scale and ask what it is. Or, you can ask for a musical blurb.. ie. A chord progression, and what's the next chord. Whoever answers the question right gets to post the next question, or can defer it to someone else. After about 24 hours, someone else can take it up and post a new question.

NO CRAZY EXTENSIONS
Firstly, because they have no real practical use. Secondly, it's just long and annoying. If you want to know what a crazy extension constitutes, here: CmMaj13#4b5(no 7). I'm sure some people can think of better examples, but there's a basic one for you.

If you get it right, and the question-asker doesn't give you the affirmation, but another user with credible status (who know's what they are talking about... think Cor, SD, Cas, Beat, slash_pwns, etc.) says it's good, then you can go ahead and post.

Use the CODE tags
It just makes things easier to read and organized.

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Post #1:

Name That Chord!

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seljer
07-28-2005, 04:33 PM
my guess is something like Gadd9/E

The_Strat_Man
07-28-2005, 04:36 PM
G A B C D E F# E

Gadd9/E= G B D A E
....

And, nope. Wrong answer. ;)

MrScary07RR
07-28-2005, 04:37 PM
050035

E D D G D A

ADEG

1 4 5 b7



Asus/E

The_Strat_Man
07-28-2005, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by MrScary07RR
050035

E D D G D A

ADEG

1 4 5 b7



Asus/E

That I'll take. But, I was going for Dsus2(4).

Your turn.

casualty01
07-28-2005, 04:39 PM
^^ for strats chord Em11 or rather Em7 (11)

Cas-:peace:

MrScary07RR
07-28-2005, 04:41 PM
I'm gonna let someone else take it, I am leaving now. Cas can go.

casualty01
07-28-2005, 04:42 PM
yeah, but harmonically it's strongest function is that of a min11 chord, so I answered anyways. ;)

Cas-:peace:

The_Strat_Man
07-28-2005, 04:44 PM
Is that because it has the third (or this case, b3) over the sus?

Anyways, it's been handed to you.

casualty01
07-28-2005, 04:44 PM
^^ yeah.

and ok, I'll go.

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
07-28-2005, 05:02 PM
ok, it's a bit stretchy, most of you might not be able to play it, but it's a chord I like to use alot. so.... name that chord.


E--5---
B--0---
G--0---
D--0---
A--9---
E--12--

Cas-:peace:

p.s. i have to head to the studio for one lesson (god I hate the summer), I'll be back in a couple of hours

SilentDeftone
07-28-2005, 05:03 PM
G(9)/E

-SD :dance:

The_Strat_Man
07-28-2005, 05:11 PM
Sounds good to me, if when you say G(9) = G9 and not G(9)=Gadd9.

Dreadnought
07-28-2005, 05:22 PM
G(9) is Gadd9...

The_Strat_Man
07-28-2005, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Dreadnought
G(9) is Gadd9...

I know, and it's not right. If SD means it that way, then it's wrong.

Woops, I'm dumb...
I'll say Gmaj9(6)/E

E F# D G B A


1 2(9) 3 5 6 7
G A B D E F#

SilentDeftone
07-28-2005, 05:36 PM
Woops, was counting that note on the A string as G, :bonk: And yes I did mean Gadd9, which is wrong.

I'll go with Gmaj9/E. I've never seen a chord named as Gmaj9(6) <--:wtf:

-SD :dance:

The_Strat_Man
07-28-2005, 05:41 PM
It has a sixth though, doesn't it?

Or, what about D11(add 6) excluding the b7....

SilentDeftone
07-28-2005, 05:59 PM
The note after the slash is excluded from the chord name. Besides that, it would be Gmaj13 then, no? :confused:

-SD :dance:

spike101
07-28-2005, 06:13 PM
Emin11

1 2(9) 3 4(11) 5 6 7
E F# G A B D

and how the hell can u play that lol

redwing_suck
07-28-2005, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--5---
B--0---
G--0---
D--0---
A--9---
E--12--
E F# D G B A

E = 1 2 b7 b3 5 4 = 1 b3 5 b7 9 11

I don't know what you guys are smoking around here, but the strongest function is Em11. It's built pretty straight... wait, dead-on straight. All these other names have adds and skipped tones.

btw, any chord with a 6 and is written "6/9"... in smaller print.

The_Strat_Man
07-28-2005, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
I don't know what you guys are smoking around here, but...

Peyote. :D

MATTTHEMOP
07-28-2005, 07:13 PM
hang on.

wot i dont get is, how do u know whether a chord is a split chord or not? i mean, with this last chord on this thread, theres dispute about whether it is split or not.

The_Strat_Man
07-28-2005, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by MATTTHEMOP
hang on.

wot i dont get is, how do u know whether a chord is a split chord or not? i mean, with this last chord on this thread, theres dispute about whether it is split or not.

Well, if there's a better harmonic function (a major chord instead of a sus chord) or one is named more correctly and it's root note isn't the lowest note in the chord; usually we'll add a slash and put the lowest note to indicate that it is the lowest note.


Em/G

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MATTTHEMOP
07-28-2005, 07:25 PM
^ the notes in the chord u just showed are:
G
B
E
G
B
E

EGB are the notes in a e minor chord, thats obvious. so is this an inverted chord, with the G as the bass note?

spike101
07-28-2005, 07:53 PM
its E in an inversion

casualty01
07-28-2005, 07:56 PM
Red's got it most accurately and in it's strongest order. i mean, it just reaks of a minor 9 at least lol.

anyways.... as far as application goes (so this isn't just some bullshit I throw at you guys to name)

this kind of chord is refered to as a cluster chord. now as guitarists we can't doo too many of these... it's pretty limited, as cluster chords are built mainly in seconds. if you'll kindly take notice, alls I did was take the 1st 6 notes of the D Maj scale and voiced them so they're only seperated by 2nds. of course, you can't do this all the way through, so I raised the 5th up an octave, but the concept still applies.

these are great chords to use for modal comping and most Sus passages, cause they're pretty all inclusive. every note except one is in the scale, and that note happens to be the 7th of the major scale... removing that one note (and therefore any tritone presence) gives you a pretty intermodal friendly chord (same with intervallic structures on the upper 4 strings). so really, you could call this chord anything within that key, and use it over any modal setting within D major as long as the bass be holdin down the basis of the vamp.


good job red.


Cas-:peace:

shredlord543
07-28-2005, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by The_Strat_Man
Well, if there's a better harmonic function (a major chord instead of a sus chord) or one is named more correctly and it's root note isn't the lowest note in the chord; usually we'll add a slash and put the lowest note to indicate that it is the lowest note.


Em/G

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I'd say its a G add6 though...

casualty01
07-28-2005, 08:20 PM
but there's no 5th (and don't bother telling me you don't need the 5th, this I know) ... and the presence of a 5th leads to a strong 6th sound. if there is one instance I know of, sonically, where removing the 5th helps to fuck over the sound of the chord, it's the Maj6 chord. sure you can get rid of the 5th and still call it a major 6..... IF the setting permits.

to really get that major 6th sound by itself, you need that 5th. now of chorse over a Maj vamp in the background whether it be the bass player or someone compinc harmonically, yeah, just using any inversion of a minor chord built off the 6th degree of that root would work to create a maj6 chord. but let's be sonically honest ... while you can say "that's a G6" (not G add6) .... it most certainly sounds like and functions as a simple Eminor chord.

Cas-:peace:

shredlord543
07-28-2005, 08:24 PM
well of course it functions like both, I just thought it sounded more like the G was the root. but really, that chord is so simple Its really up to the song to dictate which one it is.

redwing_suck
07-28-2005, 08:25 PM
I knew there was a special name for that mother fucker...

Here we go, on of my favs...:

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-1-
-0-
-1-
-0-
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Looking for just a single name here.


red:cheers:

casualty01
07-28-2005, 08:25 PM
really? your ears gravitate more towards the G on that one?

Cas-:peace:

shredlord543
07-28-2005, 08:29 PM
Amin7b5 (5)?

redwing_suck
07-28-2005, 08:30 PM
EDIT: ^^^When you have a natural 5, the minor 5 becomes a #4.

A, actually.

I am confused by your response. :confused:

casualty01
07-28-2005, 08:30 PM
the 5th would take presedence.

ergo .. Amin7 (b5)

however, we'll call it a #11 and place it nicely with it's parent mode. the Dorian #4 mode of harmonic minor.

thus... Amin7 (#11)

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
07-28-2005, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
A, actually.

I am confused by your response. :confused:

ohh, me lol ...

I was talking to Shred about the Gmaj 6/Emin 1st inversion thingy :p:


Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
07-28-2005, 08:32 PM
holy ass, all three of us are going at once.

I have the notes A D# G C E in my chord... the answer is not A-7b5.

casualty01
07-28-2005, 08:33 PM
^^ read my edit.

Cas-:peace:

shredlord543
07-28-2005, 08:33 PM
Ah, I should have seen that one. knew what it was, just didn't know how to write it. :P

redwing_suck
07-28-2005, 08:33 PM
phew, thanks, go ahead doug. I was like, "holy shit, wtf happened to this thread?!?"

answer was A-7#11

casualty01
07-28-2005, 08:35 PM
E--7--
B--7--
G--6--
D--7--
A--7--
E--7--


Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
07-28-2005, 08:38 PM
B E A C# F# B

A = 2 5 1 3 6 2
E = 5 1 4 6 2 5
B = 1 4 b7 2 5 1

A6/9, I'd say, since it is the only root scale with a defined third.

EDIT: melikey the voicing!

shredlord543
07-28-2005, 08:38 PM
its got the notes of a A6/9

but I'm going with Emaj11/B

redwing_suck
07-28-2005, 08:39 PM
^it does? no...

shredlord543
07-28-2005, 08:40 PM
sorry, the first way I typed it didn't come out like I wanted it to at all...]

edit...wow.

I really can't think right now.

redwing_suck
07-28-2005, 08:41 PM
Emaj11 is still incorrect. No 7th, no 3rd. It's A6/9... I got it first! *blood and foam spew from mouth in hunger of chord-naming* :p: :peace:

shredlord543
07-28-2005, 08:42 PM
ok, I'm with red, A6/9

redwing_suck
07-28-2005, 08:43 PM
Doug is probably laughing his ass off looking at this series of posts...

casualty01
07-28-2005, 08:48 PM
well, yeah. it's an A6/9 voicing. but I was looking for the name from the root. (simply Bsus or B9sus4 if you wanna go all "namey" on it. )

either way, another great modal voicing taken from the pentatonic scale/positions.


Cas-:peace:

casualty01
07-28-2005, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
Doug is probably laughing his ass off looking at this series of posts...

:haha ... nah, it's all good. I'm giving alot of voicings that could be named at least as many ways as it has voices.

for future refenrece, unless otherwise stated, i want the name from the root :p:

go ahead red.

Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
07-28-2005, 08:54 PM
I was gonna ask ... I saw Bsus in there (i posted my work up there), but the 2/9 threw me off... do we just go with Bsus then?

another fun mode...

-6-
-7-
-7-
-x-
-6-
-8-



red:cheers:


EDIT: I won't be back for a couple hours, so feel free to move on once it's correct.

casualty01
07-28-2005, 08:55 PM
Cmin9b5 6th mode of melodic minor (locrian natural 2)

Cas-:peace:

shredlord543
07-28-2005, 08:57 PM
Ebmin-maj7/G

casualty01
07-28-2005, 09:06 PM
^^ that's a C on the bottom there bud ;)

Cas-:peace:

Corwinoid
07-28-2005, 09:12 PM
^ But the bass guitar is playing the G you dolt. </facisism>

casualty01
07-28-2005, 09:27 PM
^I fired that guy. I just don't like those damn G's.

Cas-:peace:

shredlord543
07-28-2005, 09:28 PM
heh, I just was thinking its a third away from Eb, which, the other way is G....haha, but thats major so i dont know what I was thinking.

The_Strat_Man
07-28-2005, 09:52 PM
Go ahead Cas. Man, I missed a lot.

redwing_suck
07-29-2005, 12:23 AM
yeah, C-9b5, locrian natural 2.

GibsonIdiot77
07-29-2005, 01:07 AM
good lord i wish i knew half the **** you all do. The only chord I came close to getting was that B bar chord :( .

redwing_suck
07-29-2005, 01:18 AM
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17203

casualty01
07-29-2005, 01:52 AM
E--3--
B--4--
G--3--
D--3--
A--3--
E--5--


name it according to function and give my the polychord name.

Cas-:peace:

mikenator
07-29-2005, 02:05 AM
E9 id say... i may be wrong

Edit: Erase that, i wasnt looking at the right post

ILoveHarmonics
07-29-2005, 06:11 AM
I'm really bad at this so I need to work on it.
I only can come up with Bbmaj13/A without the third. :S
At least it's a nice chord to use in the key of A Locrian b4 I think.

SilentDeftone
07-29-2005, 11:31 AM
F11?

Polychord:
Eb
F

-SD :dance:

casualty01
07-29-2005, 11:50 AM
^^ atta girl. :p:

you're up def.

Cas-:peace:

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 11:54 AM
I hate that system for polychords *hate hate hate*
And just so we're sure this is spam, my fingernails are uneven :(

casualty01
07-29-2005, 11:55 AM
what do you dislike about that system?

Cas-:peace:

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 12:01 PM
That it doesn't get this ugly lump of uneveness out of my ring finger's nail?

No really.... I'd prefer coining those as composite chords; a poly chord is literally a bass extension that redefines the harmonic function above it.

Ie. C/D building a D11 through the implied fundamental tertiary; not a triadic doubling.

Edit: I'm not sure my opinion counts here... but that's how I feel about it personally.

SilentDeftone
07-29-2005, 12:03 PM
*giggle*

I want as many correct names as possible for this arpeggio.e|----------------6-|
B|------------5-----|
G|--------6-----6---|
D|----8-----5-------|
A|------7-----------|
E|--6---------------|

-SD :dance:

casualty01
07-29-2005, 12:05 PM
yeah but poly in and of itself means "more than one" ... and that's exactly what you have in a poly chord "more than one chord" making up the whole.

hell, any chord is a "composite" by nature... a composite of intervals/tones/balh blah...

so calling what we know as a poly chord a "composite" chord (or calling any chord a composite chord) would be imo a bit redundant don't ya think? lol

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
07-29-2005, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by SilentDeftone
*giggle*

I want as many correct names as possible for this arpeggio.e|----------------6-|
B|------------5-----|
G|--------6-----6---|
D|----8-----5-------|
A|------7-----------|
E|--6---------------|

-SD :dance:

Bb7 Db7 Fb7 G7

or if you're looking for ridiculously technical names..

Bb7 - Db7/Bb - Fb7/Bb - G7/Bb


Cas-:peace:

edit: and of course you can substitue the name E7 for any of the Fb names and Abb for either of those G7's. I just chose to stick with the Fb out of adherence to the initials triads chord tones and chose to use G instead of Abb out of practicality.

SilentDeftone
07-29-2005, 12:14 PM
^ Yep. I would have accepted E7 and Abb7 as well, depending on your view of the chord's notes as far as diatonic goes. IMO E7 is more practical, if you view each name separately. Whatever :)

Cas is up :eek:

-SD :dance:

redwing_suck
07-29-2005, 12:19 PM
Oh, the diminished scale does wonders, deffy. :cheers:

Question: I'm not too enlightened in the ways of the polychord... would a polychord be something like Gmaj6 = Em7?

casualty01
07-29-2005, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
Oh, the diminished scale does wonders, deffy. :cheers:

Question: I'm not too enlightened in the ways of the polychord... would a polychord be something like Gmaj6 = Em7?

nah, those would just be root position vs. 1st inversion .... (in the case of that initial chord being an Em7) or root position vs. 3rd inversion (in the case of Gmaj6 being the initial chord)

really that whole thing is just the concept of chords having more than one name/function. basic shit you already know


polychords are chords which when broken down or spelled out contain 2 distinct triads.

like in the case of that chord earlier, I had an Fmajor 1st inversion triad on the bottom and an Eb 2nd inversion on top.

hence

Eb
F


"Ebmaj over Fmaj"


and in the case of poly chords it's not really neccessary to write the inversion like

Eb/Bb
F/A

some time's you see it, but alot of times you won't. especially when dealing with the guitar cause there's usually only one way to voice alot of the polychords.


Cas-:peace:

p.s. I'll post my chord in a bit.

casualty01
07-29-2005, 12:57 PM
E--10--<12>
B--6-------
G--9-------
D--8-------
A--0-------
E----------

name and mode.

Cas-:peace:

The_Strat_Man
07-29-2005, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
E--10--<12>
B--6-------
G--9-------
D--8-------
A--0-------
E----------

name and mode.

Cas-:peace:
F13(add 4) omit 5, 9

I'm not sure about the mode though...

casualty01
07-29-2005, 01:07 PM
^^ I said unless otherwise specified, name it from the bass note ;)

Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
07-29-2005, 01:10 PM
A Bb E F D E

A = 1 b2 5 b6 4 5 = Asus4 (b6/b9)

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 01:11 PM
A11b9b13
Phrygian Dominant... I know what you're working on :)

The_Strat_Man
07-29-2005, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
^^ I said unless otherwise specified, name it from the bass note ;)

Cas-:peace:

Meh, I thought it's harmonic function would be better that way, but if you really want me to...

I gotta' go with redwing's.

redwing_suck
07-29-2005, 01:18 PM
If it functions as a Bb chord, it'd be Bbmaj7#11... but for some reason I like playing phrygian dominant right after that chord, so my ears are pulling towards the A.

casualty01
07-29-2005, 01:49 PM
hmm, well this was a little ambiguous wasn't it =/

I was indeed looing for the answer red gave, Asus4 (b6/b9). (since there's no 3rd)

but phrygian or phrygian dominant was the mode I was looking for.. (which cor gave)

since that's the first chord I like to use in a movement such as this.. (which throws in the 3rd there as you can see)




Emin7b5 A7 Dmin

E----10------8---6--|---10---<12>-----10------|-----5---------
B----11------10--8--|---6-------------6-------|-----6---------
G-------12----------|---9-------------9-------|-----9-------7-
D-------------------|---8-------------8-------|--0------------
A-------------------|-0------------0----------|---------------
E-0-----------------|---------------------9---|---------------



so ... who ever want's itout of you two can have it. you both caught on to what I was going for.

Cas-:peace:

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 01:50 PM
I'm busy, go ahead red.

redwing_suck
07-29-2005, 01:57 PM
yippee!

I'm sticking simple, since I don't have time to think out no polychord or nuthin'. Pft. :rolleyes:

-4-
-3-
-x-
-4-
-1-
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I made it quite easy... the two sets of notes give away the two intervals in this chord.

red:cheers:

casualty01
07-29-2005, 01:59 PM
Bb7 #5

Bb7+

whichever you like.

Cas-:peace:

slash_pwns
07-29-2005, 02:00 PM
How did I miss this thread? :o

Bb+7? Or Bb augmented seventh. (1 3 #5 b7)

EDIT: Damnit... ^

redwing_suck
07-29-2005, 02:18 PM
yep, go cas.

casualty01
07-29-2005, 02:23 PM
E--0--
B--5--
G--9--
D--2--
A--7--
E--0--

again, a bit stretchy.


;)

Cas-:peace:

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 02:24 PM
ROFL.

slash_pwns
07-29-2005, 02:38 PM
lol

E E E E E E

is it... perhaps... E?

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 02:38 PM
^ I'm busy, you can take it.

BTW, if anybody is wondering why I'm so busy... I'm fighting a holy war against stick figures. I'll be a few hours.

casualty01
07-29-2005, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by slash_pwns
lol

E E E E E E

is it... perhaps... E?

I was looking for "E drone"

but yeah, you got the gist :p:

Cas-:peace:

slash_pwns
07-29-2005, 02:44 PM
I got my guitar with me (had to try that E thing :p: ) so heres a little behind-the-fret-hand-tapping thing. I want a key btw.

T= 32nd t= tap
2/4, 123 bpm
Gtr I
t t t t
T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T
||--12p11p9p5h12p11p9p5h12p11p9p5h12p11p9p5h=|
||o------------------------------------------|
||-------------------------------------------|
||-------------------------------------------|
||o------------------------------------------|
||-------------------------------------------|

t t t t
T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T
|12p11p9p5h12p11p9p5h12p11p9p5h12p11p9p5h=|
|-----------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------|



1.
T T T T
T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T
|-12p11p9p4h12p11p9p4h12p11p9p4h12p11p9p4h=|
|------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------|

|12p11p9p4h12p11p9p4h12p11p9p4h12p11p9p4h====||
|-------------------------------------------o||
|--------------------------------------------||
|--------------------------------------------||
|-------------------------------------------o||
|--------------------------------------------||


Sorry if it stretches... Once some one gets it I'll delete it.

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 02:46 PM
^ It wrapped... break it up a bit.

slash_pwns
07-29-2005, 02:48 PM
^Will (try to) do.

EDIT: Smaller verisonb up.

The_Strat_Man
07-29-2005, 03:13 PM
I'm gonna' say E Lydian or B major.

casualty01
07-29-2005, 03:13 PM
well, the key is E major, but it's revolves around the lydian sound.

so E major, but A lydian as far as tonality goes.

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
07-29-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by The_Strat_Man
I'm gonna' say E Lydian or B major.

E lydian would have an A# rather than the A.

Cas-:peace:

The_Strat_Man
07-29-2005, 03:23 PM
Damn, I was looking at it wrong.

I don't know what I was thinking. I was looking at the 5 on the high E string as a B, and the 4 on the high E string as an A#.

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 03:51 PM
You gonna go cas, or you busy killing sticks?

casualty01
07-29-2005, 04:08 PM
lol. well, that.... and I was giving slash a chance to come in and say "correct" or possibly try and explain how he was looking for some other incorrect answer :p:

buuuut, since I'm correct, I might as well go.



A-----5-
B-----x-
G-----2-
C-----7-
B-----0-
D-----5-

Cas-:peace:

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 04:11 PM
G-B-G-A-x-D

Gadd9. Any major mode with a major 2nd.

E: And now that I'm done with this (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=239795), I'll post one ;)

casualty01
07-29-2005, 04:16 PM
bah... fine "mr. attention to detail" ... go ahead.

Cas-:peace:

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 04:23 PM
e:--5--
B:--5--
E:--8--
E:--7--
G:--5--
E:--5--

The_Strat_Man
07-29-2005, 04:34 PM
A C B E

Am(add 9)

Corwinoid
07-29-2005, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by The_Strat_Man
A C B E

Am(add 9) Killing the fun... gj, I'm going to bed now.

The_Strat_Man
07-29-2005, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Corwinoid
Killing the fun... gj, I'm going to bed now.

Okay, I'll go and then I'm gonna' PM you about something regarding the lessons.

Here's one with more than one answer.

Here's how you have to answer it:
- Name all of the chords
- Name the two keys in the progression (one I started with, one I ended with)
- Name the pivot chord from which I modulated to

Let's see if you can get it (I'm sure you can):

|-----------3-|--------------0-|
|------3p0----|--------0h1p0---|
|---4---------|------0---------|
|---5---------|------2---------|
|-------------|-/3-0-----------|
|-3-----------|----------------|

|-------2---2-|-0-------3p0----|
|-------3-----|-0---3p0--------|
|-2-----------|-0--------------|
|---0-----0---|-0h2------------|
|-----0-------|----------------|
|-------------|-------------0--|

|---/5--------|-2--------/5----|
|-2-------2-2-|-2--------------|
|---------2-2-|-2--------------|
|---------2-2-|---4------------|
|-------0-----|-----4p0--------|
|-------------|--------------2-|

slash_pwns
07-29-2005, 05:30 PM
G major

G C
|-----------3-|--------------0-|
|------3p0----|--------0h1p0---|
|---4---------|------0---------|
|---5---------|------2---------|
|-------------|-/3-0-----------|
|-3-----------|----------------|

D Em7
|-------2---2-|-0-------3p0----|
|-------3-----|-0---3p0--------|
|-2-----------|-0--------------|
|---0-----0---|-0h2------------|
|-----0-------|----------------|
|-------------|-------------0--|
pivot to F#m/A major
A F#m
|---/5--------|-2--------/5----|
|-2-------2-2-|-2--------------|
|---------2-2-|-2--------------|
|---------2-2-|---4------------|
|-------0-----|-----4p0--------|
|-------------|--------------2-|

The_Strat_Man
07-29-2005, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by slash_pwns
G major

G C
|-----------3-|--------------0-|
|------3p0----|--------0h1p0---|
|---4---------|------0---------|
|---5---------|------2---------|
|-------------|-/3-0-----------|
|-3-----------|----------------|

D Em7
|-------2---2-|-0-------3p0----|
|-------3-----|-0---3p0--------|
|-2-----------|-0--------------|
|---0-----0---|-0h2------------|
|-----0-------|----------------|
|-------------|-------------0--|
pivot to F#m/A major
A F#m
|---/5--------|-2--------/5----|
|-2-------2-2-|-2--------------|
|---------2-2-|-2--------------|
|---------2-2-|---4------------|
|-------0-----|-----4p0--------|
|-------------|--------------2-|

Can you make it all organized like this:

1. Chords (in order)
2. Key1, Key 2
3. The Pivot Chord

slash_pwns
07-29-2005, 06:02 PM
1. G C D Em7 A F#m

2. Gmajor, F#m

3. A

The_Strat_Man
07-29-2005, 06:03 PM
^ Close but no.

One of your chords is wrong, the rest are right!
Change one of the keys into major.
And the pivot chord is wrong, but it's close.

Remember, the pivot chord is common to both keys.

slash_pwns
07-29-2005, 10:24 PM
1. G Cmaj7 D Em7 A F#m

2. Gmajor, Dmajor

3. Em7

The_Strat_Man
07-29-2005, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by slash_pwns
1. G Cmaj7 D Em7 A F#m

2. Gmajor, Dmajor

3. Em7

Good enough for me. :cheers:

redwing_suck
07-30-2005, 12:54 AM
Dear god, someone go.

*ninja noise*BUMP!*ninja noise*

redwing_suck
07-30-2005, 02:10 PM
*rebump*

GO, SLASH, GO!

The_Strat_Man
07-30-2005, 06:34 PM
Bumped again... This better not fall from the first page.

SLASH, go!

Corwinoid
07-30-2005, 06:49 PM
Rebump, he's not going to be around this week, strat, do another.

The_Strat_Man
07-30-2005, 10:26 PM
Mmmkay...


|--------------------------/19-|
|--------------------12h15-----|
|-----------------12-----------|
|-------7h9-----0--------------|
|---5h7-----7p0----------------|
|-7----------------------------|


Name the key, and the mode that would best suit this piece (it's going to be for the major scale).

redwing_suck
07-30-2005, 10:37 PM
B D E A B E A D G B D B

B = 1 b3 4 b7 ..... all the tones amount to 1 b3 4 b6 b7.

Bm is key, mode is Aeolian.

The_Strat_Man
07-30-2005, 10:39 PM
Go ahead...

I should have included a C and an F there. I was trying to make it key of C, but tonality is B Locrian.

Your turn though.

redwing_suck
07-30-2005, 10:44 PM
hmmm yeah I thought it was a bit simple and was thinking exactly that... "if he adds a few more tones in there, it might start getting fishy." lol


-1-
-2-
-1-
-2-
-3-
-1-

Just the chord, from the root. Mode if you wanna. It's pretty easy, I'm off to the movies, so go ahead once someone else agrees.


red:cheers:

The_Strat_Man
07-30-2005, 11:12 PM
1 b3 5 b6 7

FmMaj7(b6)

For the mode... I dunno, F Aeolian Natural 7?

redwing_suck
07-31-2005, 02:43 AM
Chord is correct, mode is Harmonic Minor.... but mode was optional so you're up Strat.

The_Strat_Man
07-31-2005, 10:06 AM
Alright, here goes:

Name the arpeggio

<12>=harmonic

|---------------------------------<7>-|
|------------------------<12>---------|
|-------------------<12>--------------|
|---------------<7>-------------------|
|------<7>-<12>-----------------------|
|-<12>------------------------<7>-----|

Corwinoid
07-31-2005, 10:07 AM
Em(11)?

The_Strat_Man
07-31-2005, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by Corwinoid
Em(11)?

Nope.

Corwinoid
07-31-2005, 10:24 AM
Unless your guitar is retuned, that arpeggio is E-E-A-A-G-B-B

Not sure what else you'd call it.

The_Strat_Man
07-31-2005, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Corwinoid
Unless your guitar is retuned, that arpeggio is E-E-A-A-G-B-B

Not sure what else you'd call it.

I'll let you go ahead.

I was thinking Em(add 4).

EDIT
Damn, I'm dumb.

I thought what you posted was Em11, and not Em(add 11).

I'm sorry, Cor, go ahead.

Corwinoid
07-31-2005, 11:29 AM
I want the key:

e:--12-
B:-----
G:-----
D:-----
B:--11-
E:-----

The_Strat_Man
07-31-2005, 11:36 AM
I'll say F.

viciodk
07-31-2005, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Corwinoid
I want the key:

e:--12-
B:-----
G:-----
D:-----
B:--11-
E:-----
What a strange tuning ;)
Notes E and Bb
F major = F G A Bb C D E F
Could be F major (or eventually D natural minor)

The_Strat_Man
07-31-2005, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by viciodk
What a strange tuning ;)
Notes E and Bb
F major = F G A Bb C D E F
Could be F major (or eventually D natural minor)

It's not a strange tuning, Albert Collins used it all of the time. It's open Em.

Corwinoid
07-31-2005, 11:56 AM
F works, Cb was the other acceptable choice.

Strat's again.

The_Strat_Man
07-31-2005, 11:58 AM
Someone else take it, I don't feel like hogging 'em.

viciodk
07-31-2005, 11:59 AM
^ It's just standard tuning where the 5th string has been tuned one whole step up to B.

I believe Open E Minor Tuning is E B E G B E.

The_Strat_Man
07-31-2005, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by viciodk
^ It's just standard tuning where the 5th string has been tuned one whole step up to B.

I believe Open E Minor Tuning is E B E G B E.

Yeah, I see that now.

spike101
07-31-2005, 12:04 PM
whos turn is it?

The_Strat_Man
07-31-2005, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by spike101
whos turn is it?

Whoever wants to go.

viciodk
07-31-2005, 01:15 PM
Name this chord:

e|---8---
B|---10--
G|---7---
D|---0---
A|---9---
E|---X---

MrScary07RR
07-31-2005, 01:24 PM
X 9 0 7 10 8

F# D A C



F#6 or D7/F#

depends on the context of the music really.

SilentDeftone
07-31-2005, 01:32 PM
It can't be anything/F#, F# is not the lowest tone in that chord. Be careful! ;)

D7.

-SD :dance:

The_Strat_Man
07-31-2005, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by SilentDeftone
It can't be anything/F#, F# is not the lowest tone in that chord. Be careful! ;)

D7.

-SD :dance:

Yes it is.

F# = 9th fret on the A string.

Logz
07-31-2005, 01:36 PM
Isnt the D note lower than the F# on 9th A string?

Corwinoid
07-31-2005, 01:38 PM
^ Yep

viciodk
07-31-2005, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by SilentDeftone
It can't be anything/F#, F# is not the lowest tone in that chord. Be careful! ;)

D7. Exactly, kind of a tricky chord to name :)
Your turn SD

casualty01
07-31-2005, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by The_Strat_Man
Yes it is.

F# = 9th fret on the A string.

think pitch.


Cas-:peace:

MrScary07RR
07-31-2005, 02:16 PM
Haha I wasn't thinking on that one. Go for it SD.

The_Strat_Man
07-31-2005, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
think pitch.


Cas-:peace:

Very, very tricky.

SilentDeftone
07-31-2005, 05:19 PM
e|--4---
B|-t19--
G|--7---
D|--6---
A|--5---
E|--4---


Name That Chord!

-SD :dance:

redwing_suck
07-31-2005, 08:43 PM
Ab D Ab D Gb Ab

Ab = 1 #4 1 #4 b7 = Ab7#11 (no3)
D = b5 1 b5 1 3 b5 = D(b5)
Gb = 2 #5 2 #5 1 #5 = Gbsus2+

I'd go with either the D(b5) or the Gbsus2+. The name with Ab as the root is kind of weak, since it has no 3rd. I'd say lydian dominant with that, but once again it's weak.

SilentDeftone
07-31-2005, 09:03 PM
Try again with Ab. Yes it is missing the 3rd, but IMO its the strongest function; look at the way the thing's stacked.

-SD :dance:

redwing_suck
07-31-2005, 09:16 PM
Ab-7b5

God knows why I thought of the b5 as a #4. That shape is tell-tale half dim lol.

spike101
08-01-2005, 10:45 AM
*BUMP*

SilentDeftone
08-01-2005, 12:05 PM
redwing's turn :)

-SD :dance:

redwing_suck
08-01-2005, 12:35 PM
Okay, I'll give a list of chord voicings. Then give me the two separate keys I have in there. Also identify where the key changes, and how I got to that new key (basically, name the interval that separates the two keys). The order is, to prevent confusion, Key 1 -> Key 2 -> Key 1 again. Basically, tell me what happens in those arrows. Also, if you want, name the kind of progression I have in each key (easy once you get em).

-0-3-----0---
-0-2---6-2---
-0-2-6-6-0-6-
-0-2-6-5-3-4-
-2-0-8-6-0-5-
-0-0-6-------

redwing_suck
08-01-2005, 02:07 PM
*BUMP*

What, too much for you guys? :p:

Corwinoid
08-01-2005, 02:15 PM
Sorry... I was looking at porn

Em7 A7/E Bbm7 Ebm7 A7+ Dmaj7

Key is D -> Eb -> D.

MrScary07RR
08-01-2005, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Corwinoid
Sorry... I was looking at porn

Em7 A7/E Bbm7 Ebm7 A7+ Dmaj7

Key is D -> Eb -> D.
I understand the first two chords, the ii - V7 in D.

Then the chords in the section you put as the key of Eb I don't get. There is a Bbm7, which is the minor 5 chord, and then an Ebm7, the tonic made into a minor chord. I've been thinking about this before you posted and I knew the first 2 and last two chords and how they functioned, but I'm stuck on the middle two.

It just doesn't seem very strong in Eb major when the dominant and the tonic are made minor.

Explanations please? :(

Corwinoid
08-01-2005, 02:32 PM
Excuse me for not being pedantic... it would be Eb minor, but I would have assumed that didn't need saying with i being minor.

Edit: See kids? Porn fries the brain :/

redwing_suck
08-01-2005, 03:32 PM
Lol, go ahead Cor. Here's what I was really looking for...

D - Ab - D. They are both ii-7 V7 progressions... From D, we got down a tritone to the Ab key. However, I did not get too specific with that key, so I also thought someone would say Ebm as the second key.

Corwinoid
08-01-2005, 03:43 PM
I'll post after lunch.

Zamboni
08-01-2005, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Corwinoid
I'll post after lunch.
You mean after more porn, eh? :cool:

Corwinoid
08-01-2005, 03:53 PM
^ No... sex made us hungry... we're actually eating food now.

redwing_suck
08-01-2005, 04:03 PM
^We? Creepy... :p:

Corwinoid
08-01-2005, 04:39 PM
Yes we. It is kind of creepy that someone on an internet forum gets sex isn't it?

Kinda tricky one...

Name each chord and resolve (correctly):

e:--5--4--3--4--4--6-
B:--5--5--3--3--6--6-
G:--6--6--4--4--5--3-
D:--7--6--4--2--3--3-
A:--7--4--5--------5-
E:--5----------------
I


Hint: You'll need two chords

Ed: Err... code tags help, lol.

redwing_suck
08-01-2005, 06:39 PM
| A | C#m | Gmaj7 | E7 | Fm | Bb |

Okay, I am drawing a blank here. I haven't done this kind of thing in such a long time, so maybe Cor (or anyone else) can post a little lesson on how to resolve such progressions... :bonk:

SHould be thinking tritone subs? Then... Bb -> E7 -> A

redwing_suck
08-01-2005, 08:06 PM
*cough*

Corwinoid
08-01-2005, 09:48 PM
^ No... sorry for the late response, I fell asleep ;/

redwing_suck
08-01-2005, 10:05 PM
Perhaps a hint? idk anything....

Corwinoid
08-01-2005, 10:07 PM
^ I'll make it easy then, since it went for half a day already... it doesn't resolve to I.

redwing_suck
08-01-2005, 11:23 PM
Do you mean two chords BEFORE the final chord, or 2 chords total (one after Bb and then the final one)?

Once again, I'm not big on resolution, I don't deal with it too much unfortunately (or, rather, I don't practice it in my music or on paper). And I think today is official "MT Regs' Off Day."

MrScary07RR
08-01-2005, 11:29 PM
A C#m Gmaj7 E7 Fm Bb


Well I can't get it either, it sounds like after the Bb there should be an Eb dominant something or other (13 maybe, or b9), resolving to Ab major.

Corwinoid
08-01-2005, 11:39 PM
^ That would put MrScary up... good ears; the entire progression sets up modulation down a half step.

redwing_suck
08-01-2005, 11:43 PM
Ah, also up a 4th, then down a 5th.

MrScary07RR
08-01-2005, 11:50 PM
Wow I actually got one.

Alrighty then. I'm no good at making these things up, so I'll just throw down a chord I suppose.


-4--
-4--
-4--
-3--
-x--
-3--

redwing_suck
08-02-2005, 12:24 AM
G F B Eb Ab
F = 2 1 #4 b7 3 = F7#11, from lydian dominant.

MrScary07RR
08-02-2005, 12:26 AM
Si si. You're up.

redwing_suck
08-02-2005, 12:48 AM
Ok, redemption time I guess... after getting pwned lol


---
-2-
-3-
-2-
-x-
-3-


Chord name.... all 4.

EDITED.... was stacking minor thirds (hint hint nudge nudge) and missed the last note.

MrScary07RR
08-02-2005, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
Ok, redemption time I guess... after getting pwned lol


---
-2-
-3-
-3-
-x-
-3-


Chord name.... all 4.
All 4?

G Bb Db F
Gm7b5

F A# C# G
F+(9)

Bb Db F G
Bbm6

Db F G Bb
Db(b5)(13) :(

There are somewhere between 1 and 16 mistakes. :p: I know the last one is wrong, I've been working with the enharmonic spellings and just can't make it into a proper chord.

Punkarse
08-02-2005, 06:41 AM
I would call 'em Gm7-5, Fsus4+(9) (ugly), Bbm6 and Db6-5.

I don't want my go though, if confirmed, I've been having some personal problems and am not currently reliable enough to be able to play properly. Sorry. I pass to Mr Scary.

redwing_suck
08-02-2005, 12:30 PM
SHIT, sorry, please note the chord has now been edited.

Corwinoid
08-02-2005, 12:32 PM
^ It has?

redwing_suck
08-02-2005, 12:32 PM
NOW lol

Corwinoid
08-02-2005, 12:37 PM
Gdim7
Bbdim7
Dbdim7

Fbdim7 or Edim7 depending on the color of the moon.

redwing_suck
08-02-2005, 01:37 PM
Yup, go.

Fb, I guess... Db Eb F... minor third = Fb.

I posted that last night while reading through Levine's "Jazz Theory" book, and came across the diminished scales part... thought I'd be tricky with that. Then I constructed my chord by the stacking of the minor thirds, and realized my last note was a major third up... which didn't quite work out. So, I realized this at about 4am when I woke up momentarily....

Corwinoid
08-02-2005, 01:55 PM
I'm out of ideas, free turn to whoever wants to pick it up... it's bedtime :/

MrScary07RR
08-02-2005, 02:36 PM
Oh, I was wondering why you would want all four names for a half-dim chord, the edit makes much more sense.

And since Cor threw it to anybody, I'll just list another chord. It's pretty tricky, at least I think it is.

-10-
-9--
-9--
-8--
-9--
-9--

redwing_suck
08-02-2005, 03:09 PM
C# F# A# E G# D

F# = 5 1 3 b7 9 #5(=b6) = F#9+ (b13)

Bb = #9 b6 1 5 b7 3 = Bbalt

E = 6 2 b5 1 3 b7 = E-13b5

D = 7 3 #5 2 #4 1 = Dmaj7+#11 (lydian dominant mode)

I don't know, the F# and E roots are kind of rough... the D root (Dmaj7+#11) is clearly from a mode (lydian domnant)... however Bbalt works as well methinks.

I'll go with Dmaj7+#11.

MrScary07RR
08-02-2005, 03:17 PM
I was actually using C as the root, that was supposed to be the tricky part of it, the root was replaced with an alteration.

9 9 8 9 9 10
Db Gb B E Ab D

b9 b5 b7 3 b13 #9

I use this as a voicing for alt chords, in this one I was going for a C alt. The root was replaced with the b9th.

But your D root name works well, I think the Bb alt name is kind of weak, since it has only 2 of the alterations. The E root name isn't too bad either.

So you are up.

redwing_suck
08-02-2005, 04:04 PM
I see I see. So the bass player covers the C? He would have to, lol...

Basic chord leading here. I'll give you 3 chords. Give me at least 3 more, with the last one being an ionian (maj or maj7). Follow basic chord leading rules. You can give me 5 or 10 chords, i don't care... at least 3, ending on ionian.

-4-1-15-
-4-1-13-
-3-1-13-
-5-1-12-
-3-3-11-
---3-11-


red:cheers:

~Rock~Guitarist
08-02-2005, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
I see I see. So the bass player covers the C? He would have to, lol...

Basic chord leading here. I'll give you 3 chords. Give me at least 3 more, with the last one being an ionian (maj or maj7). Follow basic chord leading rules. You can give me 5 or 10 chords, i don't care... at least 3, ending on ionian.

-4-1-15-
-4-1-13-
-3-1-13-
-5-1-12-
-3-3-11-
---3-11-


red:cheers:

alright this is my first try in this thread... here it goes

Fm7, B7, Ebmaj7

redwing_suck
08-02-2005, 07:10 PM
erm did you mean Bb7? Cause there is no natural B in Eb major.

~Rock~Guitarist
08-02-2005, 07:29 PM
oops, my bad, i did mean Bb7. is it right besides that?

sirpsycho85
08-02-2005, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by MrScary07RR
A C#m Gmaj7 E7 Fm Bb


Well I can't get it either, it sounds like after the Bb there should be an Eb dominant something or other (13 maybe, or b9), resolving to Ab major.


can somebody explain this perhaps to the people with far less knowledge of music theory? i don't care how complicated the explanation is, ill learn it, but i don't know real rules about resolving progressions

Corwinoid
08-03-2005, 12:37 AM
^ The easiest rule of thumb, sir, is that you descend by fifth. So if you're in C, and you need to resolve from Dm, it would go Dm-G-C. Make sense?

There are other ways to 'resolve' a progression, but any time somebody is asking for the resolution to something, they mean by authentic cadence (getting the chord system to the fifth chord in an approprate key (V), and then moving to the tonic, or root (I)).

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 02:08 AM
^yeah, like when I said "oh I see, up a 4th, down a 5th" I could have said "down a 5th, down a 5th."

Up a 4th = Down a 5th
Down a 4th = Up a 5th

Basically, Mr Scary descended by 5ths twice.



EDIT: You're up, rock guitarist.

~Rock~Guitarist
08-03-2005, 11:47 AM
Ok heres a lick, guess the scale.



----------------------------|-------------13----|--16-17-18--------
----------------------------|---------13--------|----------------------
--------20 17 19--15-19-17--|-15-14-------------|----------------------
----------------------------|-------------------|----------------------
----------------------------|-------------------|----------------------
----------------------------|-------------------|----------------------

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 12:01 PM
Bb major, the last measure has the b7th passing tone for the chomatic.

I would say Bb Bebop Dominant, but up to the last measure there is a major 7th.

So just Bb major.

~Rock~Guitarist
08-03-2005, 01:02 PM
I was thinking Bb Bebop Dominant, but i could see where the major 7th could be viewed as a passing tone. probably not too good of an example.

oh well, you're up mrscary

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by ~Rock~Guitarist
I was thinking Bb Bebop Dominant, but i could see where the major 7th could be viewed as a passing tone. probably not too good of an example.

oh well, you're up mrscary
The natural 7th is supposed to be a passing tone in bebop dominant. In your example the natural 7th doesn't really seem to be used as one, it leads somewhere else.

Here's a chord. It's a tad tricky :


-----
--5--
--7--
--5--
-----
--6--

SilentDeftone
08-03-2005, 01:40 PM
E.

-SD :dance:

Logz
08-03-2005, 01:41 PM
C#dim/A# ??

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 01:45 PM
Logz, there is no C# there.

I would have also accepted Asusb9, if you lower the Bb a half step, it is a common voicing of a sus chord, and the root has been replaced with the b9.

But SD's name was correct, so go for it.

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 01:45 PM
Hey, I used that chord in one of my songs... lol THAT EXACT VOICING.

I agree with deffy... E-7b5 (Or E).

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 01:46 PM
you and your non-tabbing of the root.... grrrr *shakes fist after being pwned twice*

Logz
08-03-2005, 01:47 PM
ooh :( i got me note missed up on the G string.

SilentDeftone
08-03-2005, 01:50 PM
As many names as possible, this is an easy one :)
e|-----
B|-----
G|--2--
D|--3--
A|--4--
E|--5--

-SD :dance:

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 01:56 PM
A C# F A

A = A(b6)
C# = #5 1 3 #5 = C#+
F = 3 #5 1 3 = F+

Logz
08-03-2005, 02:00 PM
A Augmented works to... doesnt it?

SilentDeftone
08-03-2005, 02:00 PM
You're 2/3 of the way there. Look at your A chord, dufus :bash:

Edit: Yes Phil, it does lol

redwing or Logz can go, both correctly named chords.

-SD :dance:

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 02:01 PM
dear sweet jesus, i'm stupid.

A+

Logz
08-03-2005, 02:02 PM
redwing can go, ive only joined in to try figure them out!and ty SD :D

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 02:04 PM
-7-
-7-
-6-
-6-
-7-
-0-



red:cheers:

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 02:08 PM
E G# B C# F#

E(9,13)

EDIT:
or C#m11

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 02:11 PM
I was going for the first one... here's some info: If a 6 and a 9 are present, without the 4/11, you say : "6/9"

So I was going for the name E6/9, but it's the same as E (9/13), so go ahead.

The_Strat_Man
08-03-2005, 02:13 PM
E13 (no b7)

I'm not sure if you're "allowed" to take out the b7, seeing as that's what makes it dominant.

Edit
It's been answered by red already.

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 02:18 PM
Ah yes. Should have known that.


-0--0--0--0---------------
-0--0--0--0---------------
-6--8--9--8---------------
-6--9--9--9---------------
-4--6--7--9---------------
----------7---------------

Name the chords and give the key. Bonus points if you know the song it came from.

Logz
08-03-2005, 02:34 PM
1st = E6
2nd = Bsus4/D#
3rd = E5
4th = B Major

I dont know how to work out keys :(

Waity, is the Key E? :confused:

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 02:36 PM
Try a different name for the first chord. And think about the second chord name. The second one's almost right, but something's off about it.

And wrong key

EDIT : Actually your could technically fits with regard to the notes, but think about the tonal center and resolution.

Logz
08-03-2005, 02:40 PM
Badd11? for the second one?

This is hard!!

SilentDeftone
08-03-2005, 02:43 PM
C#m7
D#+b9 or Emaj7, Emaj7 seems better lol
E5
B(11)

B is the key.

-SD :dance:

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 02:48 PM
Db Ab Db B E = (Db) 1 5 1 b7 b3 = Db-7

Eb B Eb B E = (B) 3 1 3 1 4 = Bsus4/E, (Eb) 1 #5 1 #5 b2 = Ebsusb9+, (E) 7 5 7 5 1 = Emaj7 (don't know which one you're going for there)

E5

B (11)

Db-7, ?, E5, B(11)

Key is B?

EDIT: damn you all! i'm too slow.

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 03:00 PM
Well SD got it. I would have gone with Logz's reply for the second chord though rather than the Emaj7. But it still worked.

Logz, your reply did correct your 2nd chord. You said the chord was sus4, but your slash indicated the third in the bass, making it not a suspended chord.

And Redwing, You've been using flats thewhole time and then telling me the key is B? Haha you should have gone with Cb then, and used Fb and Cb instead of E and B (respectively). Your namings didn't fit into a key, you have Db, Ab, and E and B natural.

Also, the song was "Another Day" by Dream Theater.

Logz
08-03-2005, 03:13 PM
ahh ty mrscary :D

SilentDeftone
08-03-2005, 03:20 PM
I KNEW those chords looked familiar!

Logz can NOT go! :D Matt is anxious.

-SD :dance:

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 03:24 PM
^Hahaha.

Go for it Logz.

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 04:44 PM
Fuck.

Nuff said. Flats + Bmajor = Matt thinks with his spleen.

The_Strat_Man
08-03-2005, 05:15 PM
^ :haha

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 08:39 PM
Had spleen removed. All is ok now.

BUMP.

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 08:54 PM
As Red so daftly mentioned in another thread, there are lots of chord namers online now. I think someone should just take the turn, and next time Logz is around he gets a free go.

SilentDeftone
08-03-2005, 08:55 PM
e|--3--
B|--5--
G|--3--
D|--5--
A|--5--
E|-----
Rootless, but it's a common shape.

-SD :dance:

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 08:55 PM
C7(9)

?

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 08:57 PM
D G Bb E G

Yeah, no root, C9.

SilentDeftone
08-03-2005, 08:58 PM
C9, yep.

-SD :dance:

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 08:59 PM
go scary go!

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 09:00 PM
Oops, I accidentally put it as an add.

How bout this:


--8--
--6--
--7--
--6--
--7--
-----

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 09:02 PM
E G# D F C

E = 1 3 b7 b9 b13

Ealt? The bottom three notes are tell-tale dominant.

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 09:04 PM
^Yeah, it's a common voicing for a b9th chord aside from the high E. That would have been no fun so I threw in the b13th. You're up.

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 09:04 PM
D = 2 b5 1 b3 b7

Or Dm9b5

EDIT: shit, here we go WWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEE!

looking for strongest function here.

-0
-6
-0
-6
-8
-8

Oh, how purty it be.


red:cheers:

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 09:11 PM
886060

C G Ab F E

F Ab C E G

Fm/maj9

SilentDeftone
08-03-2005, 09:11 PM
Fm/M9

-SD :dance:

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 09:13 PM
holy conversations outside of UG batman.

go scary go.

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 09:16 PM
^ :haha:


-7-
-0-
-6-
-0-
-7-
-5-

SilentDeftone
08-03-2005, 09:19 PM
A(9,11) perhaps.


e|-8-
B|-8-
G|-10
D|-8-
A|-10
E|-8-


Whose computer is fastest? :p:

-SD :dance:

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 09:21 PM
Csus

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 09:21 PM
C G Bb F G C

Csus


EDIT:
DAMN YOU ALL! ALL OF YOU!

MrScary07RR
08-03-2005, 09:24 PM
My question :

What does Csus resolve to?

redwing_suck
08-03-2005, 09:26 PM
i know the answer....

someone else take it, SD and scary are offline now, and i want other people to get in on this thread.

The_Strat_Man
08-03-2005, 11:00 PM
My guess, F major?

redwing_suck
08-04-2005, 01:19 AM
yes, go.