The Official ONLY Tool thread.

[las7]

Well as it seems right now there are no Tool threads anywhere in sight so I have made this thread just for people like me who love Tool and would like to share info/love:
I will start the thread off with the fallowing news:
Tool is currently working on their fourth full-length album. Tourmates Fantômas and Meshuggah have been cited as recent influences. There have been some rumors about the new release, including possible titles, potential stylistic changes, and a slew of release dates. Since the members of Tool avoid press and rarely grant interviews, there is little evidence to support any of these claims. Considering the rumor mill preceding the release of Lateralus in 2001, these reports are not likely to prove true. Still, a CD release is widely expected for a release sometime in late 2005 or early 2006.

With the coming of the new album this thread will be renamed Tool Only Thread ,this way Tool related Spam will be minimised.

[PlasticMan9345]

yep i hope it is as good as laterus and aeinma,undertow

[ISuk@Guitar]

Tool Rocks

[kevinm4435]

I wonder how the Fantomas and Meshuggah influences are going to play into the new album.

[las7]

They could be just pulling our leg though ..who knows it might sound like Tool though

[frd_marshll]

i can't wait for the tour

[WrathofKahn]

You know... it's just like Tool to through out all these rumors for us to speculate about. The new album will sound like Tool, no question... But rest assured that they will do something with they're formula to keep us interested.

[sirpsycho85]

not a tool fan, but i do appreciate that they are innovative and original. however, their sound just grates on my ears with the exception of a few songs, such as sober and schism (both fantastic and unique songs, however). i just don't see tool as the new pink floyd or whatever, nor do i think maynard is as good a lyricist as people say. however, like NIN, when they're bad i can't listen at all, but when they're good they're damn good. I definitely think they have the potential at any point to make some songs i'd really like.

[sadistic_monkey]

Tool are fantastic. Aenima and Lateralus area amazing albums. Whatever they do, it'll probably be awesome.

[RHCPhysco8]

it's nearly impossible to be dissapointed by a tool album, because they spend so much time working on the albums making sure every little aspect is right.

[IbanezRGsk8er]

I have been listening to Tool for a couple of years now, and I would consider myself a fan, but im not sure if Im ready for a new Tool album. I just got into some of Tool's older stuff and Im listening to a lot of APC, so im satified with those. I looked on Jones' Myspace and saw the pic's of the studio and them at work, and it got me excited and happy that they are still working, but im not overwhelmed by the upcoming release. As for now, im not sure what is going on at the moment with Tool. Are they still a band? Are they really in the studio making an album? Or are they just pulling our legs? But one things for sure, i would love another tour, and the chance to see them live.

[they're red hot]

I listened to Lateralus recently, and it rocked so hard. Every minor detail was perfectly in place, and the rhythm section was a ****ing barnyard.
Tool rock!
The new album should be awesome, if its any good as Lateralus.
Is Aenima good? I've heard of it, but haven't heard it.

[IbanezRGsk8er]

^Aenima was a great album, although not as great as Lateralus, its still a damn good album. Like lateralus, every song on the album is awesome, although i could do without all those stupid fillers, like "Useful Idiot", "message to harry manback", "Intermission", "dier von satan", "cesaro", and "(-)Ions", everything on there except for those songs are awesome.

DO yourself a favor and go ahead and buy it next time you go to a music store, its the one with the wierd white square in the middle and have all of those eyes. :D

[okiebrian]

I love Tool. They definetly have their own, unique sound.

[Emenius Sleepus]

you never know,.. it could be a backstreet boys sound in odd time signatures,.. it's Tool, after all...

seriously though, how many people are already flooding their bedrooms with drool here?

[Emenius Sleepus]

I listened to Lateralus recently, and it rocked so hard. Every minor detail was perfectly in place, and the rhythm section was a ****ing barnyard.
Tool rock!
The new album should be awesome, if its any good as Lateralus.
Is Aenima good? I've heard of it, but haven't heard it.

if the song Parabola describes Tool in any way, Aenima is their peak. It's a brilliant album, I think personally I enjoyed Aenima more than Lateralus, just the songwriting and the music are all-out winners for me. Not to say the other two didn't kick ass

[they're red hot]

^ Cheers guys.
:cheers:

[roo6339]

i can't wait... i've been waiting so long for this album...

[las7]

Only 5 years, perfection takes a long time.. Its better having a disk that a person can listen to for ethernity then having something that you listen to once and forget about

[EZLN libertad]

here's a little eye candy for you all...

www.teleincisor.com

before tool released lateralus, they bought www.lateralus.net and just put up a tool logo, teleincisor has been a rumored name for the new material, which is pretty much a cd, check out adam jones' myspace for pics of them recording, josh homme might be a guest on it, which im hyped about

but then we came to find that teleincisor is simply a rumor, it might be the real thing, but chances are against it, even though the site says tool, well...tool is known for being misleadning and hiding things

there's currently a new rumored title..i cant remember it at the moment, ill check it when i get home

i own: opiate undertow aenima and lateralus.
i also own: the power to believe and the court of the crimson king, by king crimson, which was tools biggest influence, if youre getting bored with other bands and getting a little tired of tools current stuff, and waitin for the new cd, check out king crimson.


see you auntie...

[InfiniteSadness]

I'm a big fan of tool and I can't wait for the new album. I'm really curious about Adam's playing, sometimes I'm really into it and sometimes I feel a little dissapointed that the only thing he plays are drop d riffs (kick ass riffs though). He had some solos before (more like melodies, like Lateralus, Parabola or noise/screeching solo's like in Eulogy and Push it) but I hope he has broadened his horizons guitar wise, I'm not expecting things like shred solo's because that would suck but I just hope he has something new for us. I really hope that Danny's drumming stays as complex as it was on Lateralus. I have real high expectations for this record, really looking forward to it, Tool rocks.

[Opus Dei]

here's a little eye candy for you all...

www.teleincisor.com

before tool released lateralus, they bought www.lateralus.net and just put up a tool logo, teleincisor has been a rumored name for the new material, which is pretty much a cd, check out adam jones' myspace for pics of them recording, josh homme might be a guest on it, which im hyped about

but then we came to find that teleincisor is simply a rumor, it might be the real thing, but chances are against it, even though the site says tool, well...tool is known for being misleadning and hiding things

there's currently a new rumored title..i cant remember it at the moment, ill check it when i get home

i own: opiate undertow aenima and lateralus.
i also own: the power to believe and the court of the crimson king, by king crimson, which was tools biggest influence, if youre getting bored with other bands and getting a little tired of tools current stuff, and waitin for the new cd, check out king crimson.


see you auntie...

That's great and all, except the rumor was called 'teleincision' and the website was 'teleincision.com.'

There were also a couple of other sites that were bought by someone (not neccesarily Tool) rumored to be the name of the new Tool album.

[flawlessme]

see you auntie...

Thats a classic!! :p:

[las7]

Has anyone heard that Maynard is doing something on Saw2 soundtrack? If so will it be a feat. or an individual effort?

[doc bonez]

I listened to Lateralus recently, and it rocked so hard. Every minor detail was perfectly in place, and the rhythm section was a ****ing barnyard.
Tool rock!
The new album should be awesome, if its any good as Lateralus.
Is Aenima good? I've heard of it, but haven't heard it.

DROP EVERYTHING.....STOP WHAT YER DOING......GO BUY AENIMA......NOW!!!!!!!!!!

seriously an unreal album....I can't choose if Lateralus is better than Aenima, it is like saying whether Dark side of the Moon is better than the Wall

And I do mean that in the literal sense.....in my eyes Tool is the Pink Floyd of this generation in many symbolic ways

*way ahead of their time
*most of the band is classically trained (Maynard went to a great music school in Interlochen Michigan--an hour from where I live)
*VERY philosophical according to the times (Floyd spoke out on thinking for yourself and spiritual freedom--Tool references spiritual exploration quite a bit)
*completely unique sound and style

Even when people say Tool is a great band, I still don't see it as enough justice.....they are in my opinion one of the greatest bands ever because their greatness extends to so many levels

[EZLN libertad]

maynard did do something in saw2, not sure what, but i know he did

yeah sorry about that, it was teleincision not telincisor

[sadistic_monkey]

^ Hell yes. I recently got into tool, but I'm damn hooked. Aenima is one of my favourite albums.

[EZLN libertad]

aenima=ownage

opiate is pretty damn good two

i'd rank em like
lateralus
opiate
aenima
undertow


undertows last, but my fav song is from it

flood=pwnage


yeah...even though undertows last, it still beats down cds like american idiot by a **** load...

[(-) Ions]

Has anyone heard that Maynard is doing something on Saw2 soundtrack? If so will it be a feat. or an individual effort?
I bet it will be a remix of a puscifier song. Probably remixed by Danny Lohner and given a silly name with some silly reference about marijuana. It won't be that great, but then again, saw isn't a great movie.

Of course, that's just my guess, I have no idea. :o)

[EZLN libertad]

yeah yeah, i use to have a copy of puscifier on my computer...but i think it got deleted :(

[Ticks & Leeches]

I would have to say my favourite album is Lateralus, i love everysong on that album. I heard that the new album is a mix of lateralus and Undertow but also very new. Cant be too bad can it! :D

[Dragon_slayer13]

adam jones said that it was going to be alot heavier than lateralus

TOOL F***kin rocks

[las7]

Maynard = Jesus?

Now I may be wrong here (highly unlikely) but does anyone else believe that Maynard James Keenan (Tool, A Perfect Circle) is a complete badass. I mean am I right or am I right? He's like Jesus (Or David : Muhammed for all those Jewish : Muslim UGers) with all off his words of wisdom. I mean C'mon.
:haha please guys do a search for "Maynard = Jesus"
That had me laughing like 10 minutes :haha :haha great thread ,Im humbled by the Pit

[hypocrisy]

Only thing I don't like about Tool is that they like to give us false information, or in other words, make us think otherwise from what they are actually doing. They like to hide from the public in a sense, which is rather stupid.

[musicftm]

tool likes to trick us, theres no predicting what the new album will be like, just gatta wait and listen when it comes out, i am so damn excited for it though....

[Kendawg4TooL]

Only thing I don't like about Tool is that they like to give us false information, or in other words, make us think otherwise from what they are actually doing. They like to hide from the public in a sense, which is rather stupid.


I think alot of the false information comes from other peoples rumors. It's not so much that Tool gives a date and then steps back and laughs when all their fans piss themselves from excitement. As a matter of fact they never realy give false dates, if they announce a date, chances are that's when it's coming out unless it gets delayed for some reason which i'm sure isn't intentional.

They don't exactly give enough info but, at the same time, alot of people are way to impatient and they try to look at every bit of info given from a different angle and as a result they blow it way out of proportion. And it's not really a bad idea for them to hide from the public. As big of a fanbase as they've developed, there is still alot of people who don't even know who Tool is, and even some people who like them wouldn't recognize them in public. They like the fact that they can go out to a bar or go bowling without being bombarded by fans like they would be if they're faces were all over MTV and other such media outlets.

I would like to know more, but I know the album will come out eventually so that's enough for me.

[Warm-And-Fuzzy]

I hate Tool.
I hate APC.
I hate their fans.

It's my opinion.
Lynch me.

[Kendawg4TooL]

^There's are better and less desperate ways to get attention pal.

If you gave some reasons as to why you don't like them, then maybe you're post wouldn't be nearly as pointless as you're life.

[SilentDeftone]

I hate Tool.
I hate APC.
I hate their fans.

It's my opinion.
Lynch me.
Any reasons?

I like Tool, their stuff is rather unique and they are all talented musicians. Very tight as a band it seems.

-SD :dance:

[Zoso_LesPaul]

I love Tool. I think they are one of the most talented and creative bands around today. Adam makes some awesome sounds with his guitar. And their music videos kick ass.

[Warm-And-Fuzzy]

Any reasons?

I like Tool, their stuff is rather unique and they are all talented musicians. Very tight as a band it seems.

-SD :dance:

It's the fans.
They act like Tool/Apc is an ideal, or a mindset.
I listened to Tool/Apc religiously for about 2 years, then took a look around.
I'm not saying all the fans are total fuckjobs, it's just most of them are.
:p:

^There's are better and less desperate ways to get attention pal.

If you gave some reasons as to why you don't like them, then maybe you're post wouldn't be nearly as pointless as you're life.

I'm not looking for attention, bub.
I'm just saying that I don't like them. It's my opinion.
It's the same as saying you like them, only less productive.

--[Pointless life w/o Tool??]--

[SilentDeftone]

So the other people who listen to Tool who really have nothing to do with the music or band are the reason you dislike them?

:rolleyes:

Suit yourself. :haha

Personally, I agree with some of your comments about fans' attitudes towards bands, specifically I can't stand people who think Green Day is God's gift to music, but that isn't the reason why I don't like the band. :) You see what I'm saying?

-SD :dance:

[Warm-And-Fuzzy]

So the other people who listen to Tool who really have nothing to do with the music or band are the reason you dislike them?

:rolleyes:

Suit yourself. :haha

-SD :dance:

Attend a concert... :(

[SilentDeftone]

Good point lol.

-SD :dance:

[Warm-And-Fuzzy]

Personally, I agree with some of your comments about fans' attitudes towards bands, specifically I can't stand people who think Green Day is God's gift to music, but that isn't the reason why I don't like the band. :) You see what I'm saying?

-SD :dance:

I see what you're saying.
But I guess it is/isn't circumstantial, depending on the circumstances. [ :p: ]

[las7]

Well ectually for me Tool is a band that lets you take what ever you personally want from their music. When I see a person who says Maynard is the new spiritual leader I understand that he is not actually understanding the little information that Tool have actually given to us ,to work with.
I think they are one of the few bands that let their songs be interpeted individually ,and this is mainly because they value the idea of a person thinking for themselves. There are very few songs to which Tool has offically said their own meaning behind the lyrics which is great. It lets a person like me find what I actually discover while listening to the lyrics. Its not about Maynard having a coce addiction and speaking about it threw a song, but rather a song which speaks to everyone the differently. I have never felt as Tool being something that dictates my life, and I dont feel the need to really get into an arguement about Tool obsessed fans because I really dont know any.
Its mainly down to the individual not the circumstances ,if someone views anyband as God's gift to music or the saviours of the music industry its his choice not anyone alses. Musicans sell their souls and their ideas to mass consumption ,but Im happy that Tool have sold their soul yet let their heart remain in the right place.

[sadistic_monkey]

Well ectually for me Tool is a band that lets you take what ever you personally want from their music. When I see a person who says Maynard is the new spiritual leader I understand that he is not actually understanding the little information that Tool have actually given to us ,to work with.
I think they are one of the few bands that let their songs be interpeted individually ,and this is mainly because they value the idea of a person thinking for themselves. There are very few songs to which Tool has offically said their own meaning behind the lyrics which is great. It lets a person like me find what I actually discover while listening to the lyrics. Its not about Maynard having a coce addiction and speaking about it threw a song, but rather a song which speaks to everyone the differently. I have never felt as Tool being something that dictates my life, and I dont feel the need to really get into an arguement about Tool obsessed fans because I really dont know any.
Its mainly down to the individual not the circumstances ,if someone views anyband as God's gift to music or the saviours of the music industry its his choice not anyone alses. Musicans sell their souls and their ideas to mass consumption ,but Im happy that Tool have sold their soul yet let their heart remain in the right place. Nicely said :cheers:

That's one of my favourite things about Keenan's lyrics. They're deep, and annoyingly thought provoking but mean different things to different people.

[Kendawg4TooL]

It's the fans.
They act like Tool/Apc is an ideal, or a mindset.
I listened to Tool/Apc religiously for about 2 years, then took a look around.
I'm not saying all the fans are total fuckjobs, it's just most of them are.
:p:




Most of them are? Based on what? The fact that you see **** up's at they're concerts? Go to any concert pal! You'll find more than a generous helping of **** up's (or at least what you consider **** up's) at any concert. If you let some Nu-metal kiddies who show up at a Tool concert who don't know how to appreciate the music and only focus on the bands image affect the way you look at a band so drastically, then you might be just as stupid as they are. Plus, besides the Nu-metal kiddies, who do you consider to be **** up's that you've seen at Tool concerts?

[Warm-And-Fuzzy]

Most of them are? Based on what? The fact that you see **** up's at they're concerts? Go to any concert pal! You'll find more than a generous helping of **** up's (or at least what you consider **** up's) at any concert. If you let some Nu-metal kiddies who show up at a Tool concert who don't know how to appreciate the music and only focus on the bands image affect the way you look at a band so drastically, then you might be just as stupid as they are. Plus, besides the Nu-metal kiddies, who do you consider to be **** up's that you've seen at Tool concerts?

The concert was an example of where to interact with Tool fans in one, conviently contained area.

Well ectually for me Tool is a band that lets you take what ever you personally want from their music. When I see a person who says Maynard is the new spiritual leader I understand that he is not actually understanding the little information that Tool have actually given to us ,to work with.
I think they are one of the few bands that let their songs be interpeted individually ,and this is mainly because they value the idea of a person thinking for themselves. There are very few songs to which Tool has offically said their own meaning behind the lyrics which is great. It lets a person like me find what I actually discover while listening to the lyrics. Its not about Maynard having a coce addiction and speaking about it threw a song, but rather a song which speaks to everyone the differently. I have never felt as Tool being something that dictates my life, and I dont feel the need to really get into an arguement about Tool obsessed fans because I really dont know any.
Its mainly down to the individual not the circumstances ,if someone views anyband as God's gift to music or the saviours of the music industry its his choice not anyone alses. Musicans sell their souls and their ideas to mass consumption ,but Im happy that Tool have sold their soul yet let their heart remain in the right place.

Yes, but open interpertation leads to disagreement.
It's all a matter of maturity. (Or lack therof)
You'd be supprised how fussy people get about a difference of opinion. [ :rolleyes: ]

[Opus Dei]

but Im happy that Tool have sold their soul yet let their heart remain in the right place.

"I sold my soul to make a record..."

[nerdlinger]

Tool = Musical Orgasm

[las7]

"I sold my soul to make a record..."
I love that song ;) its so good Hooker with a Penis ...damn ,I was laughing when I first heard the text but then when I understood that ,that song is perhaps one of the very few that Tool is being literal I though "God Damn....."
Or maybe I was just drunk who knows ,maybe Im drunk right now

[XBodomX]

I use to hate Tool when i first heard Eulogy because of the tapping/ clicking (This was like 2 years ago)
Then last year i checked them out again and heard Hooker with a Penis and **** that's still my favorite since the first time i heard it

[las7]

I use to hate Tool when i first heard Eulogy because of the tapping/ clicking (This was like 2 years ago)
Then last year i checked them out again and heard Hooker with a Penis and **** that's still my favorite since the first time i heard it
Seriously there have been alot more songs that I have enjoyed much more then Hooker with a Penis but my appreciation of the song only come much latter it slowly grows on me. It surelly is not musically or vocally my favorite Tool song but as far as emotion goes..damn that song is up there with the best

[sadistic_monkey]

I use to hate Tool when i first heard Eulogy because of the tapping/ clicking (This was like 2 years ago)
Then last year i checked them out again and heard Hooker with a Penis and **** that's still my favorite since the first time i heard itWeird. Eulogy is probably my favourite Tool song.

[XBodomX]

/\ Oh Eulogy is one of my favorite songs now.
Basically when i first heard it i didn't expect Tool to be how they are. But now since i know who they are i do like the song alot. I was obsessed with it not to long ago but i listened to it abit to much

[Infinite-Reason]

Eulogy is definitely not a song to get people onto tool. Trust me, ive tried and they lose interest within the first minute

[Umair122504]

so how about that 25 second scream in "The Grudge"? I seriously get chills when I hear it. The first time I heard it, my reaction was something similar to this..."...ookay...its gonna end soon....calm down buddy...what the hell?...maynard, are you an atheist god?" :haha

[Ticks & Leeches]

Yeah! When i first heard the scream, the song was just playing on in the backround while speaking to my bro, another tool fan, and then he stopped me to show me the scream bit, i was like..........f***ing hell, now thats impressive. He really has some amazing talent as a singer and also as a lyricist.

[shadows666]

Tool is over rated. Their songs all sound the same and their live shows are boring. This is just my humble opinion, though. Personally, Tool is one of the worst bands around.

[las7]

^Lol ok men I respect that you dont like them.. yet you are very lucky to see them live ..I sadly havent... :( well there is always hope
http://urbanlegendsonline.com/images/hamsandwichonrye.jpg

[shadows666]

^Lol ok men I respect that you dont like them.. yet you are very lucky to see them live ..I sadly havent... :( well there is always hope

Their live presence is one of the reasons I don't like them. My friend told me they were great live so I wnet and they just stood their and played. I was disappointed :(
But that's just me...Thanks for being cool and not flippin out like EVERYONE else does :D

[Ticks & Leeches]

Wherever you go, whatever you do there's always gona be people who don't agree or dislike what you do, so everyone just has to learn to accept it,

[sadistic_monkey]

Their live presence is one of the reasons I don't like them. My friend told me they were great live so I wnet and they just stood their and played. I was disappointed :(
But that's just me...Thanks for being cool and not flippin out like EVERYONE else does :DI downloaded a Tool gig and I was suprised that they just played. They sound brilliant though

[TheWretched]

Yeah, when I saw them back in 2002, they did also just stand there and play. Maynard actually gave his back to the audience for the most part (though he would make his little weird dance moves). However, I wasn't disappointed at all. The music was incredible...the projections they had were great too. I actually enjoyed the show very much. I guess they're just tyring to get people to understand that it's really all about experiencing the music live. Who cares what they look like? We already know. Meh, I don't know. I was not the least disappointed.

[SilentDeftone]

I don't care if they just stand and play. I'd rather see that than some moron jumping around nearly damaging his instrument.

-SD :dance:

[Insomniak]

All i know is that you can't trust any rumors out because tool loves to **** with us, lol. Im trying to not get my hopes up with anything people have been saying because i dont want to be dissapointed. Like I heard the album was coming out in October during the summer time and i was thouroughly dissapointed when it didn't happen...so until the album comes out I will just eagerly wait. And holy **** i cannot wait for them to go on tour...nothing will make my senior year better than seeing tool with my best friend because we are HUGE tool fans.

[doc bonez]

when I saw them (Sept. 13 2001 - supposed to be the 11th, but sumthin happened....) they did do a whole lot of "standing and playing" but it still was terrific....they did a 15-20 minute version of "Push it" (lol) with a real ambient sound and it was kick ass..

out of nowhere, a couple contortionists or something came walking out on stage, get this, with their palms AND feet flat on the floor buck naked with their asses sticking straight up into the air (one male one female) and they were scurrying (yes, scurrying) all over the stage for GOD knows how long....

after that, they strung those two up by their feet about 25 feet in the air where they swung like pendulums for a while (I was VERY intoxicated.....)

yeah, pretty damned boring......

[TheWretched]

"Some of you having been emailing about the "Schism" DVD that's being advertised on several websites with a release date of December 20th. To answer your questions as to whether or not I can confirm this, the answer is that, while I can't confirm that EXACT date, the plan is to release a DVD featuring the videos for Schism and Parabol/Parabola with added extras (more details later) sometime in DECEMBER of this year. So, the December 20th date looks pretty good for the Sam Goody's type chains, and when more specifis become available to me, I'll post this additional info in the news section. PLEASE NOTE that this is NOT the (much anticipated) Tool live DVD, which will be released at some point, although exactly when is still a great unknown."

Finally something new..not the actual live dvd but it's something.

[shadows666]

when I saw them (Sept. 13 2001 - supposed to be the 11th, but sumthin happened....) they did do a whole lot of "standing and playing" but it still was terrific....they did a 15-20 minute version of "Push it" (lol) with a real ambient sound and it was kick ass..

out of nowhere, a couple contortionists or something came walking out on stage, get this, with their palms AND feet flat on the floor buck naked with their asses sticking straight up into the air (one male one female) and they were scurrying (yes, scurrying) all over the stage for GOD knows how long....

after that, they strung those two up by their feet about 25 feet in the air where they swung like pendulums for a while (I was VERY intoxicated.....)

yeah, pretty damned boring......

They are a boring live band in my humble opinion. that's the arguement I was making. they just don't do anything for me, that's all. I do recognize them as talented musicians, however, they just aren't my thing...

[TheWretched]

out of nowhere, a couple contortionists or something came walking out on stage, get this, with their palms AND feet flat on the floor buck naked with their asses sticking straight up into the air (one male one female) and they were scurrying (yes, scurrying) all over the stage for GOD knows how long....

Ah, I'm guessing you're talking about Osseus Labyrint? The same two people who come out in the "Schism" video. I wish they would have made an appearance at the show I went to. I'm sure it must have been quite interesting.

[musicftm]

i really dont want to wait to hear the new album, its frustrating. i hope they step it up ever farther and change music forever.....i think tool is the band that can do it next.

[XBodomX]

Has any one checked out The String Quartet tribute to Tool? It's pretty cool if you like violins and stringed instruments.

[musicftm]

is that good?? maybe i can d/l it!

[TheWretched]

I've listened to the string quartet tribute. It's pretty cool actually. A whole new different way to listen to Tool music. Heh, anyway, "The Patient" and "The Grudge" sound quite awesome. I enjoy listening to all these string tributes so who knows. It might not appeal to everyone.

[nerdlinger]

Undertow IMO is the best album.

[musicftm]

undertow is good but for me it doesnt seem to have the epicness to it, and flow lateralus does, lateralus imo is better lyrically, musically and has a amazing spirtual side to it..

[nerdlinger]

Has any one checked out The String Quartet tribute to Tool? It's pretty cool if you like violins and stringed instruments.

Apocalyptica. They originally only covered Metallica. But now they have branced out. I've heard there version of schism. It's fantastic.

[musicftm]

i just d/led the whole thing...sorta cool, it could have been so much better (some of those big drums, piano maybe?)

[TheWretched]

Apocalyptica. They originally only covered Metallica. But now they have branced out. I've heard there version of schism. It's fantastic

^^I believe it's not Apocalypitca who cover Tool though. I think the name is Third Eye Open. Apocalypitca is amazing though. Their cover of Metallica are pretty damn good.

[musicftm]

^yeah thats right

[las7]

^^I believe it's not Apocalypitca who cover Tool though. I think the name is Third Eye Open. Apocalypitca is amazing though. Their cover of Metallica are pretty damn good.
That sounds like an awsome idea Apocalyptica is the only band which does such terrific covers that I dont mind listening to. Also Tool will work quite well with classical instruments. Although I think Apocalyptica needs to get Danny on the drums otherwise it can never be as good as the original.

[musicftm]

it would be cool to have like six drummers with those big drums...

[Alucard II]

there's a behooley load of Tool tributes. i have both String Quartet tributes, a Piano tribute, a Baroque tribute, and a Gothic Acoustic tribute. the String Quartet & Acoustic ones are the best, in my opinion

[musicftm]

i want the new album to be a double disc but they say its not...
but if its a single disc and its as good or better than lateralus, then i will be more than happy....after all, that would make it just about the best album ever.

[ando3300]

"maybe not so directly about drougs. try reading this: Being a huge fan of Tool, I wanted to know if anyone else knew about this. It's just ...so.....awesome. It's worth the read, trust me. I tried finding out who the original author was, but I couldn't. The first site it popped up on didn't even know. Tool's Lateralus is the most amazing piece of music ever composed. I think Tool deliberately wanted to give their fans something truly amazing, but wanted them to find it on their own. "Recognize this as a holy gift..." At first, I thought that the song Lateralus was about tripping acid - discovering true color by seperating the body from the mind. At first listen, I imagined the bending envelope as an intense visual. After becoming more familiar with the track, however, I had reformed my interpretation to something broader: think deeper. Lateralus, perhaps because it is the album's "title track", serves as the central clue for a puzzle that a friend of mine had read about somewhere on the internet. "All I know is that there is a different order for the songs - something about two spirals. Oh yeah, and thirteen is in the middle." After scavenging through endless google search results, I gave up on finding more about this 'alternate order'. Intent to figure the album out, and very curious about the spirals - I put on the proverbial 'thinking cap'. I understood how the spirals could have a lot of significance, in that the album's title track offers the inspiring, "swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human..........And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been. We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been." In my internet scavenging, I had read one review, written by a drummer, who mentioned that Danny Carey's drum beat formed a fibonacci sequence during the song Lateralus. A drummer myself, I decided to get out the graph paper and follow Danny. I can't play like he can, but at least I can hear everything he's doing, and thus was able to construct the drum tabulature. Sure enough, Danny repeats a Fibonacci sequence through the number 13: 1,1,2,3,5,8,13. After 13, he starts again with 1. Bringing in my Algebra 2 knowledge of the Fibonacci sequence, when the equation for the Fibonacci sequence (which I don't actually know) is graphed, it forms a sprial whose vertex depends on the number at which the sequence begins. Coincidence? I began to think not. I had already known of Danny's obsession with sacred geometry and am familiar with Bob Frissell's book, Nothing in This Book Is True, But It's Exactly How Things Are , so the significance of what I had stumbled upon had actually begun to settle in. This is where I just had to play with Lateralus. I had doodled a few spirals in the corners of my graph paper, and in doing so made the first important connection to Lateralus. I knew that if the tracks were in fact intended to be heard in a different order, "Parabol" and "Parabola" would have to go together. In drawing my spirals, I had begun with a vertex and 'spiraled' outwards. After writing the numbers 1 through 13 linearly, I could immediately see that Parabol and Parabola would have to be the middle of my spiral (in that 13 / 2 = 6.5). I drew a simple arrow between 6 and 7 and then pondered the next pair. At first, I actually drew a spiral connecting pairs of numbers whose sum equaled 13 (the number of songs on the album). This, however, left the last track in the same position and without anything to connect to. At this time, I had used my copy of Lateralus and Cool Edit Pro to take out the silences between tracks and put the songs in the following order: 6,7,5,8,4,9,3,10,2,11,1,12,13. The transition from Parabola into Schism blew my mind, as the plucks, probably dismissed by listeners as a drawn out rant of an ending, perfectly transition into the beginning of Schism. When you count out beats as the strings are plucked, Schism resumes with the same time signature and tempo - mirroring the progression of notes. The transition from Schism into Ticks & Leeches is equally intriguing. Schism ends with strong double-kick bass and tom smacks, and Ticks & Leeches begins with what many would call a 'tribal' drum beat. The beat at the very start of Ticks & Leeches is slightly different every subsequent time it is repeated - the measures are two beats longer. Yup - you guessed it - those two beats are ACTUALLY the last two beats of Schism. I can honestly say that I never understood the album's fourth track, Mantra until reordering the album's songs. What I had originally heard as whale calls now had begun to resemble the worst imaginable dry heaves - or a stylized choking. Fitting, seeing as how the last line in Ticks & Leeches is "I hope you choke." After this transition, none of those following it really seemed to make much sense. I certainly didn't like that Disposition and Reflection had been seperated - as they sound quite good when played sequentially on the album. This was the only real roadblock in my disciphering of the Holy Gift. Then I had remembered what my friend had told me - 13 was in the middle. At the time, probably just wanting to believe that there was more to this cd, I had equated this to the positioning of the song "Intermission" on the previous release, Ænema. For the song to be in the 'middle' of the album it would have to be the seventh track in sequence, here having six tracks on either side of it. So I inserted Faaip de Oiad after Lateralus, and almost peed my pants when I discovered that (ever-so-faintly) the fading tone of the last note of Lateralus could be heard in beginning of Faaip de Oiad, and how the distortion of the guitars at the tail end of Lateralus resembled, and later transitioned seamlessly into, the static at the beginning of Faaip de Oiad. The lyrics of Lateralus justify this break in the spiral, almost instructing: "spiral out, keep going, spiral out, keep going." I went back to Lateralus to find the next clue. In Danny Carey's amazingly competent Fibonacci sequence, he had stopped at 13 and gone back to 1. This is what I chose to do to finish the sequence. A second spiral was now constucted, and the order for the Holy Gift now became 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10. Already many of you are probably fascinated at what I have revealed to you, but I can not even begin to tell you what this new order has opened up for me. The beauty of Lateralus is very, very fragile and has to be viewed with a very open mind. It can also be different when looked at from different points of view. Aside from the fact that the new order of the songs places them in an order where they flow together nicely - often ending and resuming on the same notes or within the same progression, and some times - in the case of Lateralus into Faaip de Oiad and The Grudge into Triad - even overlapping (though admittadly sound much better when actually electronically overlapped, this is kind of cheating. Consider this a hint, however, if you plan on doing this yourself), the two spirals help to tell a story that every Tool fan should hear. In the interest of not boring the only casually intrigued, I will try to keep this very brief. I would also recommend familiarizing yourselves with Frissell's book (yeah - the one I mentioned earlier). I consider Parabol and Parabola to be quite expository. Maynard wants us to know that no matter what happens, we must all know that this is not our only existance. Our very minds and the contents of our subconscious are intended to be immortal, and if we accept this into our lives (be it because of personal or religious reasons), it will be so. As such, pain is an illusion. At first, I called it "The Lateralus Prophecy" (for reasons you will soon understand), but I have since decided to call the 'reordered' version of Lateralus "The Holy Gift". As Maynard says, "Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this chance to be alive and breathing," I take the word "this" to mean much more than just his simple cautioning. Since Parabola is the second track of the Holy Gift, it can be considered at the beginning (esp. considering the context of it's duality with Parabol), and as such, I interpret Maynard's words as more than just clever lyrics in a song. They are a plead for his listeners to listen to everything he has to say and truly celebrate the chance of immortality offered throughout. I would be lying if I said that each song has a specific translation. On the contrary, Tool's music is designed to make you think, not say something specific. It must be treated like great literature - much is hidden contextually. I will elude to Geometric-Drumming's previous post, where he explains the time signatures of Schism: "It represents the title...it's arranged in 12/8 time which is SPLIT into 5/8 and 7/8 - which only really FITS as you PUT THE PIECES BACK TOGETHER." Where Geometric-Drumming claims Schism as his favorite Tool song, I have heard some fans say that it was a retched pick for the album's only single - but I think it was brilliant. Not to downplay the interpretations of those who have posted before me (in fact, I agree with much of what %BlueSoulRobot% has to say), but I think that to the casual listener who knows nothing of Tool, it can be a powerful invitation. Think about it - a lot of dingbats with MTV and a radio would walk around with the words "I know the pieces fit" in their heads. I wonder how many of them took the time to put the pieces back together to (re)discover what is trying to be communicated

[ando3300]

"There's a Fibonacci in Maynard's lyrics, specifically the syllables: black [1] then [1] white are [2] all I see [3] in my infancy [5] red and yellow then came to be [8] reaching out to me [5] lets me see [3] there is [2] so [1] much [1] more and [2] beckons me [3] to look through to these [5] infinite possibilities [8] as below so above and beyond I imagine [13] drawn outside the lines of reason [8] push the envelope [5] watch it bend [3] I suppose it's not actually a true Fibonacci, since it does reverse itself."

Sorry that belongs with the rest, but it was too long...

I'm sure some of you have heard about this before, but if you haven't....READ IT NOW. Nevermind the length. This is truely one of the most intriguing things I have heard a rock artist doing. It's worth your while..

And how can some you guys be saying that Undertow is better than Lateralus...are you guys ok?

[las7]

^shi* I think you should lay off the acid ,I might read that someday but hell boy your loco.
......I trying to read the whole thing and right now Im putting the songs in your order but this is way too intelectual for a person who has been studing all day long ..so I will go back to your post when I have rested.
EDIT TNX Alot for your interesting post ...I always looked to Litereus as somewhat fragmented maybe it will make more scence and it does seem that you have been alittle more fanatical then me...

[musicftm]

wow that is very interesting.....im not sure that all of those things you mentioned were purposfully intended by the band when they wrote the record (but i know some of the things you mentioned were). i know there is more to lateralus than what is on the outside....i know there are other ways to listen and learn about lateralus.... its really amazing how they put mathmatics and pholosophy into their music and intertwine them to send a message......i enjoyed reading that actually, thank you, that was cool and im ganna go listen to the album now.....

[musicftm]

oh, my bad, i thought you wrote that...

[las7]

The credit goes to ando3300 ...he deserves everybit of credit for that indeapth look into the spiral that Literaus is

[musicftm]

no he didnt...... i was just reading that same thing in other chats, it is rather intriguing though

[Andrew Zara]

I like Tool.Stinkfist and Schism are their best.

[Umair122504]

^Stinkfist is awesome. Does anyone know what the meaning behind Eulogy is? I'm really loving that song right now, its friggin awesome. By looking at the lyrics, I thought it was talking about Jesus.


"He had a lot to say. He had a lot of nothing to say. We will miss him"
"Come down, get off your f*cking cross, we need some f*cking space to nail the next true martyr"

Damn, whether you agree with him or not (which I do), he is a lyrical genious. :D

[ando3300]

Haha, sorry for the confusion guys. I got if off of some poster on Songfacts. I meant to put quotation marks around it.

[ando3300]

Schism is honestly my least favorite track on Lateralus...there are much better.

[TheWretched]

^Stinkfist is awesome. Does anyone know what the meaning behind Eulogy is? I'm really loving that song right now, its friggin awesome. By looking at the lyrics, I thought it was talking about Jesus.


"He had a lot to say. He had a lot of nothing to say. We will miss him"
"Come down, get off your f*cking cross, we need some f*cking space to nail the next true martyr"

Damn, whether you agree with him or not (which I do), he is a lyrical genious. :D

Not sure what Eulogy is really about but I've also heard the whole JEsus story. Supposedly the beginning is suppose to be the sounds of him being nailed onto the cross or something. I'm not too sure. Don't quote me on anything. But I have read this before on other boards.

[las7]

Eulogy is in a way a song about false worship and the way some people interpret religion for their own personal benefit. It doesn?t specifically talk about Jesus in way it makes parallels between the Bible and what?s going on right now with religious fundamentalism being a vocal point. It is clearly an ode about the Opium of the People, false beliefs and propaganda and manipulation. It is a song about thinking for yourself and how different people are trying to come across as the new saviors of moral ,and how people should not just fallow blindly like sheep. It both has a political and a religious meaning since it?s about ideas not religion in a way. Any one who leads the people under his own flag seems to be able to fit in those words. From a political leader, to a philosopher or a religious leader. It is free to interpretation and everyone should really have their own individual understanding of the song. It also mentions how most modern leaders are passing ideas without actually believing them and contradicting them with their own action "Ranting and pointing his finger, at everything but his heart". It?s about manipulating the masses with easy messages with which they can identify with
"He had a voice so strong and loud and I swallowed his facade cuz I'm so eager to identify with someone above the ground, someone who seemed to feel the same, someone prepared to lead the way, with someone who would die for me."
It a song about those who pass around morals but they don?t believe in them and brake those same morals that people easily get manipulated in believing. It?s easy to talk about belief but it?s hard to stand by those beliefs and die for them. It?s about the lies that are fed and the lies that make up our society and how people should think outside the box and not take everything for granted. People should be able to question their own beliefs to be able to truly have faith, not fallow blindly the next blind martyr.
But then again it?s Maynard so it might be best just to take it as a joke :haha

[duncang]

I've never heard any Tool, but they sound like a band i'd absolutely love, can any of you guys recommend me an album to get?

[las7]

Latralus or Aenima ....or just wait for the new disc it will be out in less or more then an year. Lmao well its hard really to point you in the right direction maybe you should get Undertow its much easier to get into and it is quite addictive. Sober being so catchy
...yep its a difficult question.

[musicftm]

get lateralus and study it up and down, well schism isnt a bad song in any way or form but it doesnt touch the grudge, parabola, lateralus, or the patient on lateralus...

[sadistic_monkey]

For some reason I'm only just seeing the genius that's in Lateralus. I was listening to it on the bus home and suddenly thought 'This is far more amazing than I first gave it credit for'. Did that happen to anyone else, of am I just creepy?

[musicftm]

lol yeah, and it only gets better i swear. i have loved the album for like a year now and i find new stuff in it still and new meanings and feelings in it....

[lateraluspiral]

yeah. schism is probably my least favorite on lateralus, too. but its still damn good. tool are gods.

[Ticks & Leeches]

Lateralus is amazing to say the least, it touches people in ways that many many many artists cannot. My fav track would probably be The Patient, Grudge or Lateralus, i love the lyrics in that song:

I embrace my desire to
I embrace my desire to
Feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow
To feel inspired to fathom the power, to witness the beauty,
To bathe in the fountain,
To swing on the spiral
To swing on the spiral
To swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human.

[EZLN libertad]

ahh sadistic monkey...you've just began to enter the wonderful journey of lateralus

[las7]

I actually love ticks and leeches... just the whole song is perfect everyway I look at it and the lyrics haunt with the end "Suck Me Dry..." awfully powerfull track it is by far my favorite Tool song right now but it probably change in time as Im a different mood.

[musicftm]

its so genious!

[musicftm]

when did tool turn into modern rock instead of metal....i would sorta call them metal...

[TheWretched]

Well, it's difficult to categorize TOOL into any genre. Alot of people would agree with you and say they're metal. Others call them Progressive. Others call them modern rock, hard rock, alternative metal. I personally just think they're way too complicated to be categorized. THey're in a genre all by themselves.

[las7]

Yep in a way Tool began as the bastered child of Grunge and Proggressive Metal. But the child developed and out grew its parents in the development. It is by now nearly impossible to catagorise Tool as just one thing. And I think Tool would feel at home in most formums from Modern ,ALternative ,Nu ,Metal ...to other.

[musicftm]

so is or isnt their album coming out jan 17th 06....alot of people say it is, and the jesus guy on myspace (supposedly maynard) stated that date on his newest blog entry....

[Ticks & Leeches]

well as you know there's always rumours about Tool's future release, so i wouldn't get your hopes up,

where is the jesus (supposedly maynard) guy on myspace, im on myspace and want to check it out,

[musicftm]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=15851825&Mytoken=84932CD2-B1EF-48E3-9CBFFE0C7C6CBD1F257661062 there ya go
then go to his "sorry about my absence" blog entry...

[ghettohippygrrl]

I don't like "modern rock" but I like the first half of the song The Package before it gets all heavy and ****.

[Umair122504]

I don't like "modern rock" but I like the first half of the song The Package before it gets all heavy and ****.

Thats by A Perfect Circle, not Tool but yeah that song is good :D

[ghettohippygrrl]

Oh... :haha I was just thinking of Maynard, silly me. Hmm, I don't think I like any Tool songs. Schism was alright. But I don't listen to that style of music at all. :cool:

[Ticks & Leeches]

Fair enough,
do any of you know if Tool would tour in britain, cuz i damn hope they do

[sadistic_monkey]

They're not that well known, and neither are APC. I only got into them cos of UG. Before I got Ænima I'd never seen a music video, or whatever from them.

[musicftm]

january 17 06

[ando3300]

Fair enough,
do any of you know if Tool would tour in britain, cuz i damn hope they do

I actually heard that they were supposed to do a tour of Europe beofre doing anything in the U.S. That is after the new album, of course. Could be just a rumor though.

[Ticks & Leeches]

That would just brilliant, because i thought if they did tou rit would be around may/june time and thats when my GCSE's are, but i hope it isnt just a rumour

[duncang]

Just got Lateralus :D. I see people find it hard to get into...man I love it right now, and iv only listened to half the songs. Is there MORE?

[doc bonez]

Just got Lateralus :D. I see people find it hard to get into...man I love it right now, and iv only listened to half the songs. Is there MORE?

ONLY HALF???

oh baby....you're jus gettin warmed up fer the encore....

[duncang]

You cant say only half, i just bought it and I am listening to it as we speak.

[musicftm]

beware, the contents contained in that cd are highly addictive!

[lateraluspiral]

Lateralus is genius. It IS really difficult to get into at first. the whole reason i got into them is because I heard they were good. and i had nothing better to buy, so just bought lateralus. Id never heard anything by them before except a little bit of schism. At first i hated it, and thought lateralus was the stupidest album ever. it was just so boring and weird. but i was so wrong. I actually had to force myself to listen to it all the way through to actually understand what they were going for, then i started listening more and more and more and then one day i had my first Toolgasm. yayayay. It was wonderful . Now ive been completely addicted to them for about 3 years.
Theyre genius.

[musicftm]

^word

[YAY_FOR_PIE]

TOOL pwns. Can't wait for this upcoming album!

[duncang]

Ok, iv listened to it, thought its pretty good, but I have one thing which I dont think will evert grow on me or expose its genius. Faaip De Oiad is one of the worst excuses for a song I've ever heard, a random drum solo, annoying buzzing and some random dude whining about the government.

[doc bonez]

^word

seconded...

[sadistic_monkey]

Lateralus is genius. It IS really difficult to get into at first. the whole reason i got into them is because I heard they were good. and i had nothing better to buy, so just bought lateralus. Id never heard anything by them before except a little bit of schism. At first i hated it, and thought lateralus was the stupidest album ever. it was just so boring and weird. but i was so wrong. I actually had to force myself to listen to it all the way through to actually understand what they were going for, then i started listening more and more and more and then one day i had my first Toolgasm. yayayay. It was wonderful . Now ive been completely addicted to them for about 3 years.
Theyre genius.I've only been on Tool since the summer, but they're one of my favourite bands.

Pure bloody genius.

[Ticks & Leeches]

Yeah i remember my first Toolgasm, i was listening to APC on minidisk and i put it on shuffle it also had Salival on, and on came Pu**** (Live), f***ing amazing! i was like, right, im gonna go buy there albums, and snice then ive been a devoted fan

[ando3300]

Ok, iv listened to it, thought its pretty good, but I have one thing which I dont think will evert grow on me or expose its genius. Faaip De Oiad is one of the worst excuses for a song I've ever heard, a random drum solo, annoying buzzing and some random dude whining about the government.

Do a little research on the song, and found out how Tool is the most mysterious band ever. Look up the lyrics to that song...found out the date it was recorded. It sucks as a song, but it is one of the most eerie things put on tape (especially when you understand it).

[musicftm]

^ tell me what you mean...ive read them before but i dunno what your talking about.

[(-) Ions]

The person's voice who you hear on Faaip De Oiad is a real person, not an actor. The voice is that of a caller who called into the famous AM radio show: Coast To Coast AM (Hosted by Art Bell at the time). That is also the reason why it says 'art bell excerpt courtsey of premier radio networks' and 'coast to coast a.m. with art bell' on the lateralus slip cover.

Sometime during the caller's time on air with art bell, the radio show went off the air. In fact, a bunch of AM radio stations in that area (Pahrump, Nevada or something) were knocked offline (mysteriously(?)). To this day they don't know what caused the technical difficulties. Although, the caller did apparently call back claiming he was putting on a hoax and did not know why all the radio stations got messed up. However, some claim that the person who called back was not the guy who originally called in the first place.

[TheWretched]

january 17 06


This date is looking pretty good for a release date. I'm really trying not to get my hopes up though. I've been let down too many times before, heh. Anyway, not sure if anyone's checked out the TOOL page recently. It was updated today with some information on the Parabol/Parabola and Schism DVDs that are gonna be released on the 20th.

But also, there's some weird message on there for "Lustmord". I don't know who the hell that is but I do know that Blair doesn't post just any meaningless message on the site. There's usually always something cryptic about it. If you read the message, you see that at the end the numbers 21 and 17 show up. The 17th has been the rumored release date not only on this board but in others as well. And my understanding is that during the last TOOL chat, Maynard said the album would be out EARLY next year. January seems early enough to me. Maybe it will be the much anticipated live Lateralus DVD. Who knows though. With this band, you just never know.

[musicftm]

^yeah....but blair does post some pointless threads. btw, i also really really hope its jan 17 for the cd but i really dont think it is now....knowing tool it will be out in feb, march or even april....im afraid we have some time to wait....im sure it will be worth it though.

[musicftm]

the thing is....if it were to come out jan 17...then wouldnt the date be set by now...or at least real soon?

[TheWretched]

Hmm. Guess it makes sense. Who knows. I think Jan.17th would be a bit too soon especially because there hasn't been any promotion whatsoever. I don't think record labels are willing to just put out an album with any promotion. Anyway, check out this TOOL forum:
http://www.toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=29312

Towards the bottom of the thread, there's a post with information on what is known as of now. Kinda keeps you updated, I guess. So seems like in a month of five sundays we'll get something new...whether it be a release date or the actual release of something.

[GleekoBassist]

the saw2 song on the sound track is that pusifer remix with Danny Lohner cause i got the saw 2 soundtrack

cant wait for the new tool album they are one of my favorite bands

[musicftm]

on www.toolband.com mjk had something to say about a shirt. then blair said some stuff then he said something about final artwork and stuff, im still hoping for jan 17 realease.

[Alucard II]

Ok, iv listened to it, thought its pretty good, but I have one thing which I dont think will evert grow on me or expose its genius. Faaip De Oiad is one of the worst excuses for a song I've ever heard, a random drum solo, annoying buzzing and some random dude whining about the government.
yeah....it's not a song, it's another one of their...i dunno, fillers? and he's whining about aliens moreso than the government.
*clap clap*

get Aenima, after you hear that you mightn't whine about Faaip so much. either that or you'll whine more :p:

[ando3300]

The person's voice who you hear on Faaip De Oiad is a real person, not an actor. The voice is that of a caller who called into the famous AM radio show: Coast To Coast AM (Hosted by Art Bell at the time). That is also the reason why it says 'art bell excerpt courtsey of premier radio networks' and 'coast to coast a.m. with art bell' on the lateralus slip cover.

Sometime during the caller's time on air with art bell, the radio show went off the air. In fact, a bunch of AM radio stations in that area (Pahrump, Nevada or something) were knocked offline (mysteriously(?)). To this day they don't know what caused the technical difficulties. Although, the caller did apparently call back claiming he was putting on a hoax and did not know why all the radio stations got messed up. However, some claim that the person who called back was not the guy who originally called in the first place.

Here's the other part to it...

The message that you heard was recorded on the talk show on September 11, 1997. Some guy calls in and starts becoming hysterical. He talks of disaster coming, "aliens" coming, things infiltrating our military/government systems, and best of all: the government already knowing something.

[TheWretched]

Well, seems like a January release for the album won't be happening. Check this out:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=45484

Looks like an April/May release after all. *sigh* Well, at least we now know we wont' have to wait another damn year for it.

[las7]

I was expecting such a thing to happen. Let them take their time at least with Tool I know the wait is worth it.

[SilentDeftone]

^ I agree. Rather wait for a great album than get one that isn't top-notch in a hurry.

-SD :dance:

[TheWretched]

I definitely agree as well. Heh, I'm just being impatient now. I've got a few things to look forward to this upcoming year.

[(-) Ions]

^ I agree. Rather wait for a great album than get one that isn't top-notch in a hurry.

-SD :dance:I don't think it takes 8 or 9 months to mix an album thats already recorded.

[Alucard II]

^ ???

where did that come from? no-one said anything about 8 or 9 months..

[musicftm]

april eh.... oh well. well im pretty sure it will be the best album ever so....

[las7]

At least now I have something to look forward to till april... damn University has taken any other kinds of pleasures that I had before

[Alucard II]

i just realised that Cannibal Corpse are playing here in April too, so that should be a great month :)

[Ticks & Leeches]

Damn i hope they don't tour around may/june time in England, i have my GCSE's then, if its during the summer then that would be great

[las7]

Which is your favorite "filter" Tool song ppls mine has to be "Eon Blue Apoclypse" I find it quite disturbing ;) I usely skip it when its comes on because its far too scary..or maybe the scary one was the one with the baby crying in the begining.

[Indrid Cold]

Personally I like (-) Ions. Its pretty cool to listen to. Eon Blue Apoclypse is very cool too. I would say I like it second best of the fillers.

[ToolBass_dude]

Intermission ...tis so funky, and the transition into Jimmy blows me away every time.

[Ticks & Leeches]

yeah that is so good, but i would prob say my favourite is Eon Blue Apocolypse, i like how it feeds on into The Patient

[TheWretched]

'Eon Blue Apocalypse' and 'Intermission' are my favorite ones. Just love how they both connect to the next track.

[las7]

Lmao I was so drunk last night ,lol usely skip it when its comes on because its far too scary ffs I must have been out of my mind.
Anyways Intermission perfectly fits into the next song sometime I actually forget its a different song

[lateraluspiral]

what does everyone think of the new dvds?

[kanamvar32]

I hope this cd is as good as their previous work. I also hope they don't sell out like Metallica. God, that would be sickening. Also, can't wait for them to tour in so-cal. My friend went to a Tool concert and said it was like an acid trip without the side effects. Maynard is a beast, especially when he beat the crap out of that fan on stage. Danny Carey=best drummer alive. Adam=drop D and delay results in good chit I can actually play. I can never remember who is the bassist but he is solid.

[Ticks & Leeches]

Tool would ever sell out, every Tool should know that,

when did MJK kick the crap out of a fan? lol

[sadistic_monkey]

The brilliant thing about Adam is that the stuff is pretty simple to play, but damn near impossible to sound like him.

[TheWretched]

when did MJK kick the crap out of a fan? lol

HA! I"ve seen a video of that. It was a show in Oklahoma a few years back. He didn't actually beat anyone up (assuming I'm talking about the same incident). Some idiotic guy just ran on stage and headed towards Maynard attempting to give him a hug or something. Well, Maynard also spread his arms as if he was gonna actually hug and all of a sudden threw him down onto the floor. He sat on top of the guy (still singing) and wrapped the microphone cord around him...and finished the song from there. It's a great clip actually. It's floating around the internet. Not very difficult to find on P2P sites.

[Ticks & Leeches]

Ha! Brilliant! Tho i heard MJK does do Tai-Jitzu!

[skin_knee]

Haha, I love Maynard's sense of humor.

[Opus Dei]

Tool would ever sell out, every Tool should know that,

when did MJK kick the crap out of a fan? lol

Tool would never sell out? I guess you never listened to Hooker with a Penis. They sold out long ago.

[UnoDoucheTres`]

It doesn't matter if Tool sells out, they still kick ass

[I AM CAT]

any wor don when a new cd is coming from etiher a perfet circle or tool?

[sadistic_monkey]

It's Tool next, and some point in next year.

[Ticks & Leeches]

Tool would never sell out? I guess you never listened to Hooker with a Penis. They sold out long ago.


I have, i just thought he was meaning something else, but oh well.

But yeah does anyone know of any news about the new APC album? i.e the release date?

[las7]

I hope its not very soon I have waited long for new Tool and APC coming out with a new album will totally ruin any love that I have for the band.

[TheWretched]

The new Tool album is expected in April...or so that was the last thing I hear. Who knows. The single dvds have a sticker on them announcing a Tool album 'this spring' so at leat we'll have it before the summer.

Anyway, on the APC subject. Everyone's got their own things going on. Billy has a solo album in the works. Maynard is obviously with Tool at the moment. Jeordie and Josh are touring with NIN. And James...well, who knows. I remember reading an interview not too long ago with Billy saying that he didn't know when (IF EVER) APC would get back together.
Also, just yesterday I read an interview with Jeordie where they asked him about a new APC album and all he said was.."APC's future is unclear".

Who knows. I love APC and I'd love to hear another album though not any time soon. RIghtn now it's all about TOOL...and that's what I"m looking forward to.

[Ticks & Leeches]

Yeah, i do hope APC do carry on, but yeah rightly said, its about Tool at the mo, but i heard that Billy is working on the APC record, he said that the writing process is kinda the same as the last albums, where Billy sends them to Maynard and he writes the lyrics for it etc...

[sadistic_monkey]

Yeah, i do hope APC do carry on, but yeah rightly said, its about Tool at the mo, but i heard that Billy is working on the APC record, he said that the writing process is kinda the same as the last albums, where Billy sends them to Maynard and he writes the lyrics for it etc...That makes sense. Hasn't Billy been writing the music for APC way, way before Mer de Noms came out?

[doc bonez]

That makes sense. Hasn't Billy been writing the music for APC way, way before Mer de Noms came out?

yep.....he originally wrote these songs with a female singer in mind, but....Maynard came along and expressed some interest and whallah...you just dont turn down MJK when he says he wants to sing in your band....*heart attack*

[Ticks & Leeches]

yeah, that wud be just stupid, lol, but yeah thats basically what i think is happening, but im sure APC won't release any new records til after Tool have finished touring

[TheWretched]

Well, who knows. I had read that Billy was writing APC-like songs but for another band that he wanted to create. Except this time he really did want to get a female singer (since that was his original idea anyway). I guess we'll just have to be patient and wait. We all know Tool/APC fans are good at being patient anyway (we have no choice). Heh.

Anyway, Maynard besides working with Tool was also supposedly working with that other side project of his, PUSCIFER. So it seems like his plate is pretty full at the moment...with Tool alone.

[twocenttip]

i dont know. all i know is Faaip de Oiad is the best thing they ever did.

[las7]

Hmm I quite liked some tracks on 13th step and some covers they did.
But when it comes down for me its a new disc from Tool ,while APC can fade or find a different lead singer. Although I bet that even without APC ,Tool will still take 5year brakes between albums because a Tool album has to come when the atmosphere is perfect and in a time when music biz as a whole needs a nice kick up the back side.

[Lukeisonfire]

tool is so different from other bands. Their lyrics are insperational to everyone and can mean a different meaning.This stuff has started a religion/cult no joke. Stinkfist has freaky images and is hard to the core. Sober is so fast paced and feels amazing.Favorite band no doubt

[Alucard II]

Sober - fast paced? You may want to listen to the song again dude.

[las7]

^it depends on what you compare it to, Sober is not fast paced compared to anything in metal or more pasy rock but as a Tool song it is quite fast and quickly proggresses and gets to the hook. It does not have a huge build up and is overall one of the quicker Tool songs. But that too is a relative at how a person looks to the music

[Lukeisonfire]

^it depends on what you compare it to, Sober is not fast paced compared to anything in metal or more pasy rock but as a Tool song it is quite fast and quickly proggresses and gets to the hook. It does not have a huge build up and is overall one of the quicker Tool songs. But that too is a relative at how a person looks to the music


Exactly. Im saying its a quicker tool song. The jesus wont you try and whistle part and the riff there is pretty fast paced FOR THEM. its prog so its not supposed to be that fast

[Alucard II]

ah, sorry! i get you now. i love that song, especially the lyrics and the mood.

[musicftm]

well good news is that on the official tool site they are messing with the fans by posting stuff and then taking it off and putting little hints in there. which is good, this probably means a new album is soon. though we do already pretty much know its coming in spring...

[las7]

^If there is no new album in spring I have no idea how I would vent out my frustration. I have been waiting for far too many years now ,so if tool finnaly dont release something this spring I dont know what I will do. So hopefully those hints around the tool site mean that they are indeed working on something new.

[Alucard II]

^they've been working on something new for ages. if its due out in spring, then obviously its in the final stages of production.

now all we gotta do is sit n see if it DOES come out in spring.

[Lukeisonfire]

ah, sorry! i get you now. i love that song, especially the lyrics and the mood.

^
Its ok. Its just the mood of sober makes it very abstract and atmospherical.Anyway, ZIt jsut seems like a fast paced song with the guitar

[SGRocker0791]

I hope it comes this year because I love Tool. :D It's been almost 5 years and counting since Lateralus. Hopfully, it's creative and heavy!

[Alucard II]

^well SUPPOSEDLY its been influenced by Meshuggah, which means it will be heavier and/or have even more complex time signatures

[Lukeisonfire]

I think that its going to be noticed and appreciated much more by the mainstream audience but then again be more complex of an album.

[Ticks & Leeches]

yeah thats probably whats gonna happen, its the same with NIN, before their With Teeth album they weren't a very mainstream band, but then all the emo hardcore people started listenin to it, (well they did around my area) still im not a huge fan of that album

[SGRocker0791]

^well SUPPOSEDLY its been influenced by Meshuggah, which means it will be heavier and/or have even more complex time signatures

If so, sweet!

[lateraluspiral]

im not really sure i want tool to be influenced by meshuggah too much (no offense to meshuggah fans). seems like it would be a step backwards. but its tool, so they should be able to pull it off

[Lukeisonfire]

I think the album will be a cross of aenima, Undertow, rushes 2112, NINs with teeth, and alice in chains dirt. its definitly going to be the heaviest and best worked on. Tools totally going to wreck red hot chili peppers album for the best album.

[Alucard II]

I think the album will be a cross of aenima, Undertow, rushes 2112, NINs with teeth, and alice in chains dirt. its definitly going to be the heaviest and best worked on. Tools totally going to wreck red hot chili peppers album for the best album.
what are you basing this on now?
im not really sure i want tool to be influenced by meshuggah too much (no offense to meshuggah fans). seems like it would be a step backwards. but its tool, so they should be able to pull it off
your words smell like those of a person who knows nothing of Meshuggah, so let me enlighten you ;)
even if the new stuff wasnt influenced by Meshuggah, Tool would still be heading in the same direction; their music has gotten more complex as time has gone on, and there are few bands as musically complex as Meshuggah. an album yet more complex than the last would not surprise me, in fact, i would be surprised if it werent.

[lateraluspiral]

all the meshuggah songs ive ever heard (only a few, but still) kinda sucked. they didnt seem very complex. at all. just a wall of annoying sound with an annoying singer yelling. but again, ive only heard a few songs, so i dont know ****, like you said.

[Alucard II]

they do use a lot of very dissonant riffs, which can make it difficult for some people to listen to them. personally, i think they're great. anyway, here you go, this is a piece regarding the bands style, taken straight from the glorious wikipedia.org (http://www.wikipedia.org)

Among the band's most recognizable qualities are lead guitar player Fredrik Thordendal's smooth, clean, Allan Holdsworth-esque solos, the churning, dissonant rhythm guitars and the polymetric drum beats. In a typical Meshuggah song, drummer Tomas Haake plays two separate rhythms: a standard 4/4 beat with his hands, and a completely different metrical subdivision with his feet. The guitars mostly follow the bass drum work, creating an awkwardly pulsating rhythmic pattern to work as the basis of the song.

To take an example, the main riff of the song "New Millennium Cyanide Christ" from their 1998 album Chaosphere follows the aforementioned blueprint. Haake beats a rather slow 4/4 rhythm with his hands, while the bass drums and guitars play a repetitive 23/16 rhythm pattern on top of it. As the subdivided pattern is repeated, the pattern's accents shift to different beats on each repetition. After repeating the 23/16 pattern five times, a shorter 13/16 pattern is played once. These patterns sum up to 128 16th notes, which equals exactly 8 measures in 4/4 meter.

:golfclap:

EDIT: when i heard the new stuff was influenced by Meshuggah, I - while obviously not taking it as gospel - did not assume this meant it would be a much heavier album. it could just mean it will be more complex. there was another quote which said the album would revert to a more raw sound, like that of Opiate.
the main thing to bear in mind when reading all of this is; this is Tool. believe NOTHING.

[grungefan89]

Here's the other part to it...

The message that you heard was recorded on the talk show on September 11, 1997. Some guy calls in and starts becoming hysterical. He talks of disaster coming, "aliens" coming, things infiltrating our military/government systems, and best of all: the government already knowing something.

Dammit, that's creepy as hell. Makes me want to pick up that album that much more.

I've got "Undertow", something I've been meaning to pick up for half a year now. Love the hell out of the entire album. I don't know why, but the very last guitar riff played along with the bass in "Sober" reminds me of Zeppelin's main riff in "Kashmir". (I'm not accusing anyone of coping anything, FYI. Just both riffs remind me of one another.)

[prsfloyd]

Is this a thread about Nickelback?

[SGRocker0791]

Is this a thread about Nickelback?

Well, I hope NOT!

[Alucard II]

Is this a thread about Nickelback?
yep. cleverly disguised as a Tool thread to trick Nickelback haters from coming in here.

[Lukeisonfire]

Dammit, that's creepy as hell. Makes me want to pick up that album that much more.

I've got "Undertow", something I've been meaning to pick up for half a year now. Love the hell out of the entire album. I don't know why, but the very last guitar riff played along with the bass in "Sober" reminds me of Zeppelin's main riff in "Kashmir". (I'm not accusing anyone of coping anything, FYI. Just both riffs remind me of one another.)

Yes ive always wondered about that too. Also the song wake up by rage against the machine reminds me alot like kashmir.O and undertow is always the best beginner album for tool trust me

[Lukeisonfire]

Also Eulogys tapping/Clicking sound is alot like kashmir. Weird

[xCompanyCalls]

i hope to god that their tour is gonna be all ages. i would kill to see my all time favorite band. haha you know whats funny? Salival on eBay is going for liek 250 brand new.
i have mine with still the price tag of 29.99. haha

[TheWretched]

^I can't think of a reason as to why the tour wouldn't be an all ages thing. :confused: Most concerts are usually all ages anyway. So you're in luck, heh. I think the only time they would put an age limit would be if the show was being held in a club or something. Then sometimes they do restrict it to 18 and up. But even then, many clubs disregard that age policy for big events. However, this is Tool we're talking about. I highly doubt they'll be playing small clubs.....Hmm...Actually, I take that back. You never know. Nine Inch Nails did it last year.

Anyway, damn you! Damn you for having Salival in your hands! Heh. I'm kidding. I've been trying to get a copy of that for a long-ass time now...and so far, no luck. So hey, if you ever want to sell it...give me a call....555-555-5555. Jk. ;) Why would you want to sell it. :(

[Grazza_88]

My life will be complete if tool do acctually release this album and if they tour and i get to see them it will be even better. thats one experience i dont plan on missing out on.

[TheWretched]

January newsletter is up! It turned out to be quite interesting, I must say. Seems like Blair might be trying to let us in on some information but of course, nothing is clear or straightforward. Of course not, how could I have even for a second thought it would be clear. Looks like we've got to decode some stuff...rather tough though. Should be interesting once people around the net start attempting to decode.

[musicftm]

yeah, i hope the album with be out in april....but i wouldnt be suprised if its not till june or even summer..... theres also hints in the january newsletter about song names, album titles, tour stuff, pretty much everything....

[lateraluspiral]

why does the guy at toolband have to write so cryptically?. *cries..*

[las7]

Decode ,hehehe I stand no chance at decoding that message ,right now with my limited time there is no way Im going to try to understand what Tool is saying.

[zealo]

Also the song wake up by rage against the machine reminds me alot like kashmir.

that would be because it is the same riff ;)

my first tool album was lateralus and that took me about a year to get into. it was only after i got Ænima that i got into tool.

for me the order is:
lateralus/opiate
Ænima
undertow

all great however

[Alucard II]

^^ Kashmir & Wake Up have completely different riffs. the rhythm is similar, but the 2 riffs are very very different, not to mention the fact that the effect achieved on the Wake Up riff requires 2 guitars, if i remember correctly, which i think i do.

[zealo]

every revue of rage against the machine (the album) i have read says that the riff is lifted straight out of kashmir, and to me thats what it sounds like

[TheWretched]

TOOL PROMO TOUR

"As it now stands, in a few weeks (mid-February) the members of the band (except for Adam) and their manager will be traveling to parts of Europe, England, Japan and Australia on a bit of a promo tour, meaning that they will be meeting with record company people and doing various interviews with the press in order to promote their new record and upcoming tours. Although any press releases are usually timed to coincide with the release of the record, there will undoubtedly be leaks, so those of you who scour the internet should be on the lookout around this time. As the others field questions and deal with promo issues abroad, Adam will remain in Los Angeles to direct the new Tool video. "

Finally! Good news! This means a damn single is near now! I'm sure it will come out as they promote the album...or so i hope. Let the Tool commotion begin! Oh, and those damn leaks... :rolleyes: . I will NOT listen to anything that gets leaked. I think it just ruins the excitment of anticipating an album you've waited for for so long. I'd rather just wait and experience it once its out than settle for some low-quality leaks.

[lateraluspiral]

Awesome. thank god its getting closer...

[Ticks & Leeches]

Yes! Finally, u guys are gona have to post info on this thread when you see news about interviews in britain, and others accessable by the net

[las7]

Yea that would be quite good a new video to make my mouth water inwait for the new album...Cant Fucking wait

[TheWretched]

"TOOL are one of the first three acts to be confirmed for this year's Roskilde Festial, set to take place June 29 ? July 2 in Roskilde, Denmark."

Damn Denmark! :p:
I'm pretty damn excited to hear this though...even though I live no where near there. I'm hoping the band will do some sort of mini-tour or something here in the US before heading out overseas. That would be fvckin' great. Can't wait. Finally, confirmed dates.
It's all starting now... :D

[Will-eh]

I love tool,and can play all their **** on my bass

[Alucard II]

i loved your ma on a bass. i mean....any favourite songs to play?

[EZLN libertad]

god do i hope they tour the US...

[TheWretched]

So looks like Tool may just be one of the headliners at Leeds and Reading this year..Lucky bastards! :p: Seriously, this is great though...more dates keep popping up..can't wait for the first U.S. date to surface.

"Tool and Editors will play at this year's Reading and Leeds Festivals, according to sources close to both bands.

Tool are believed to be part of the heavier rock day, which usually happens on Friday at Leeds and Sunday at Reading, possibly second to the headliner whose identity still remains a mystery."


To my understanding, NIN was also suppose to go back overseas for the summer to play their last shows before taking a break. I figured they'd headline some of those infamous summer festivals...If so..DAMN THEM! That will be a great fVckin' show! NIN and TOOL on the same bill... :eek: .

[thembones16]

This is the best music news ive heard in a LONG time

[Lukeisonfire]

nin and tool together is the best damn show. if they get system in there... we got a new lalapoolooza.

[Liam Alan]

Yes ive always wondered about that too. Also the song wake up by rage against the machine reminds me alot like kashmir.O and undertow is always the best beginner album for tool trust me

Well, Morello and Jones where in High school & in a band together & Were Zeppelin fans. Not too unusual. I would disagree for Opiate as a beginner. A lot of it sound real different than current Tool. Aenima and Undertow display Jones in his utmost sickness. IMO.

[Indrid Cold]

Aenima and Undertow display Jones in his utmost sickness. IMO.

Yes

[GunsintheAttic]

NIN and Tool would be unbelievable. Talk about an electrifying performance. I really hope this happens.

[Kendawg4TooL]

nin and tool together is the best damn show. if they get system in there... we got a new lalapoolooza.


IMO. I personally wouldn't care to see that little snot nosed arrogant queer Daron Malakian anywhere near the likes of Tool or NIN. That goes for the rest of SOAD aswell. :no:

Daron's the only one that I really hate with a passion, but as for the rest of them, that loony **** that they like to pass off as abstract artistic music is a load of ****. They say to expect the unexpected when it comes to their music. BULL****! They use that as a net so they can write stupid songs that make no sense and sound just as bad. Then when all the smoke clears and the single drops and people sit back and say... "OK, that was wierd, am I supposed to like that?" They come out and pitch the whole "Hey we're SOAD, we told you to expect the unexpected!" That's when the 14 year old kid snaps his fingers and says "Oh yeah that's right they did say that, I'll call them musical geniuses now, and I'll even say they're innovative since no other band is stupid enough to pass that **** off as art."

"Wow, SOAD ROCKS!"

Sorry if I offended anybody with that but I can't take it back. In this last year my hatred for that band has grown so immense that it's neck and neck with the hatred that I have for slipknot.

[Grazza_88]

Does anyone on here know about the shism and parabola dvd releases, apparently it has the music videos and the band audio commentary. Just wondering if anyone had it and if its worth buying. Also is the release date for their album that i saw was autumn 2006 is that worldwide?

[TheWretched]

Does anyone on here know about the shism and parabola dvd releases, apparently it has the music videos and the band audio commentary. Just wondering if anyone had it and if its worth buying. Also is the release date for their album that i saw was autumn 2006 is that worldwide?


I bought both dvds. To be utterly honest with you, they're nothing extremely great or nothing everyone must own (unless you're like me and just likes to get your hands on every and any official release). They pretty much only contain the actual video for their perspective song and then there's a sort of dual commentary on both. It's rather difficult to understand what they're saying though. I haven't been able to figure out how the hell to turn one off...if it's even possible! *any help would be greatly appreciated* oh, and they each have a remixed version of the song. They're interesting.

Anyway, the album isn't going to be released in Autumn worldwide. I believe the U.S. has spring while the other side of the world has autumn? So, the album will be released during our Spring and your Autumn...all during 2006 :)

[thedoc40]

TOOL is playing coachella, im going, im stoked.

[Grazza_88]

^^ thanks for the info cant wait for the new album.

[Ticks & Leeches]

Oh My God!!! Reading and Leeds! Im ****ing going to one of them!!! Which one are both Tool and NIN are playing? or is it rumoured or uncomfirmed?

[musicftm]

coachella is in late april....this means the album should be out before it!!!!!!!!!!! omg im so excited....2 1/2 months?

[TheWretched]

Oh My God!!! Reading and Leeds! Im ****ing going to one of them!!! Which one are both Tool and NIN are playing? or is it rumoured or uncomfirmed?

No, Nine Inch Nails isn't confirmed for anything. I was just saying that during the last spiral chat that was held, Trent made mention of going back to Europe during the summer to do some final shows before taking a break. I thought that perhaps they would do a sort of summer festival tour over there. Nothing sure, though.


coachella is in late april....this means the album should be out before it!!!!!!!!!!! omg im so excited....2 1/2 months?
That would be great if the album was released before then. THere is a good chance and well, mid-April is the rumored time. But I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't out by then. May has also been a good mention ...and maybe they're just gonna give a taste of what's to come during Coachella. I, un-fvckin'-fortunately can't make it to Coachella but I'm REALLY hoping that there will be other dates surrounding that one show. Coachella is gonna be great though...they haven't played there since '99 when they took the stage with RATM.

[(-) Ions]

For the last three months, the release date has been April 4 2006, and it hasn't changed.

[Lukeisonfire]

IMO. I personally wouldn't care to see that little snot nosed arrogant queer Daron Malakian anywhere near the likes of Tool or NIN. That goes for the rest of SOAD aswell. :no:

Daron's the only one that I really hate with a passion, but as for the rest of them, that loony **** that they like to pass off as abstract artistic music is a load of ****. They say to expect the unexpected when it comes to their music. BULL****! They use that as a net so they can write stupid songs that make no sense and sound just as bad. Then when all the smoke clears and the single drops and people sit back and say... "OK, that was wierd, am I supposed to like that?" They come out and pitch the whole "Hey we're SOAD, we told you to expect the unexpected!" That's when the 14 year old kid snaps his fingers and says "Oh yeah that's right they did say that, I'll call them musical geniuses now, and I'll even say they're innovative since no other band is stupid enough to pass that **** off as art."

"Wow, SOAD ROCKS!"

Sorry if I offended anybody with that but I can't take it back. In this last year my hatred for that band has grown so immense that it's neck and neck with the hatred that I have for slipknot.

Daron is a bitch dont offend peoples music unless it has to do with slipnot and green day

[Lukeisonfire]

the date is definitly going to be changed not enoguh news yet...

[Ticks & Leeches]

im not sure if i can see them at Reading, i would ****ing love to but money etc.. is involved, i may have to wait til they do a headlining tour round britain, but il have to be bloody quick!

[las7]

So as far as the info about Meshugga as being sited as an influence on this album it very much could be true especially for insperiation to Danny some of the time signitures on the new album from Meshugga are diabolicly good so I would be fasinated if Tool are not pulling our leg.

[musicftm]

tool should play bonnaroo. the hippies would love disposition and reflection. and i wanna see them when i go.

[Alucard II]

everyone cheer, for the album has been mastered.
www.toolband.com/index_frames.html

[Kendawg4TooL]

*Sheds a tear of joy*

That's the best news I've heard in a long time...

CHEERS!

[musicftm]

yes yes yes yesyesyeysyesyy oh thats so wonderful....april is the month. this is my most anticipated album ever. imo, if they top lateralus then it will be among the greatest albums ever, or greatest.

[TheWretched]

Finally! It's done! No more tweaking and no more of Salma's dancing! This is beyond fvckin' great. Now I will impatiently wait for April to roll around.

[las7]

...............................................................................................!!!yesssssss

[lateraluspiral]

**** yes.