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TravisWongPG
11-25-2005, 11:38 PM
How? Where do I learn? Can anyone here help me?

dionysus85
11-26-2005, 05:55 AM
get a wine bottle or something , smash it or get a grinder with a diamond blade and grind the nech off (make sure the nech is straight, not contoured) sand the edges well (IMPORTANT)

or go to the music shop and get one for a couple of bucks

then put it on your pinky finger and push lightly on the strings
the note is above the fret, not in the middle

just have a play around, its alot of fun and you can get some great sounds

if you want to try out playing along with some songs
try tuning your guitar to an open tuning, open E and G are good for slide

StratRat13
11-26-2005, 12:51 PM
NOOO don't wear it on your pinky, NEVER wear a slide on your pinky, unless you want to hear every other string when you slide it around. Wear it on your ring mute behind with your pointer and infront mute the strings you don't want to hear with your pinky. Also heavier strings and higher action will help. Play notes over the actuall frets, not the space in between. If ya need anymore PM me.

Encore_God
11-26-2005, 12:53 PM
Go buy a Son House CD. :cheers:

TravisWongPG
11-26-2005, 06:21 PM
I still need some more help with the muting, what is the technique? Its difficult.

dionysus85
11-26-2005, 09:39 PM
StratRat13
i play with it on my pinky so i can still play normally with my other fingers

but if your just starting out, you should try it on diffrent fingers till you find what you like

as for the muting, if you put it on your ring finger, you can mute the strings with your pinky

mostly when i play slide i dont use a pick and i just play the strings i want to
, but try everything and do whatever works

StratRat13
11-26-2005, 09:45 PM
Is he playin on an acoustic or electric, because at high volumes on electric, when you slide even without playing, you can hear every string.

Gabuydachk
11-26-2005, 11:00 PM
As Encore_God said, Son House is a master of Delta Blues slide.

BluesRK
11-28-2005, 01:18 PM
I don't mean to offend, but it's completely stupid to say "don't play slide with your pinky." Ignore that, and play with whichever finger suits you. Clapton plays slide with his little finger, as does Doyle Bramhall II and they're both fantastic. Blind Willie McTell also played with the slide on his little finger.

Gabuydachk
11-28-2005, 03:55 PM
^I prefer the ring finger, but that's completely true.

Anyway, some other guys that aren't Delat Blues, but might help you with slide techniques are Blind Willie Johson, Eric Clpaton, Earl Hooker,and Duane Allman and the guy in Lynyrd Skynyrd (for the rock use of the slide)

oddy nocki
12-04-2005, 07:24 AM
Is he playin on an acoustic or electric, because at high volumes on electric, when you slide even without playing, you can hear every string.


Maybe you're just crap.

.WD40
12-04-2005, 07:27 AM
The first half of Freebird is done with a slide, I believe, and its not too hard.

Steve Cropper
12-04-2005, 02:14 PM
Master of slide ehh? I say Blind Willie Johnson.

Variable
12-04-2005, 05:44 PM
NOOO don't wear it on your pinky, NEVER wear a slide on your pinky, unless you want to hear every other string when you slide it around. Wear it on your ring mute behind with your pointer and infront mute the strings you don't want to hear with your pinky.
My father's been playing slide for about forty years and plays amazingly, he plays with it on his pinky and so do I. Maybe your way would be better for standard tuning, but c'mon, who plays slide blues in standard tuning? If you want to be able to play rythm as well as slide, you should really be using open tunings. I think the best way for the OP to learn would be to drop into open D (D A D F# A D) and just learn to play a basic twelve bar with D, G, and A (Open, 5th, and 7th frets respectively).
Maybe something like this:

Tuning: D A D F# A D
slide
-0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--5s7-7--7-7--7s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0-5s7-7--7-7--
-0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--5s7-7--7-7--7s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0-5s7-7--7-7--
-0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--5s7-7--7-7--7s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0-5s7-7--7-7--
-0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--5s7-7--7-7--7s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0-5s7-7--7-7--
-0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--5s7-7--7-7--7s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0-5s7-7--7-7--
-0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--3s5-5--5-5--3s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0--0-0--0-0--5s7-7--7-7--7s5-5--5-5--0-0--0-0-5s7-7--7-7--

Note that when using a slide, you don't have to fret the strings fully, just rest it directly over the fret itself (not the space between the frets as you normally would).
Also, it helps if you place you ring finger on top of the slide to keep it stable, and make sure you have your finger perpendicular to the neck.
I hope that helps.

StratRat13
12-05-2005, 05:37 PM
Maybe you're just crap.

:haha :haha Ok buddy.

Derigiberble
12-06-2005, 11:26 AM
:haha :haha Ok buddy.


:rolleyes:

maybe you are, care to prove otherwise?

StratRat13
12-06-2005, 09:41 PM
Like I said before in the solo thread. I don't have a mic to record on, or any programs. And I'm not gonna go out and buy a mic just to show some ignorant guy that I know how to play. Jeez what happened to the old blues forum, when there was a little respect. Guess thats what UB is for. :rolleyes:

Edit: O and to oddi nicki I'm talkin about when you move the slide, without muting.

Derigiberble
12-07-2005, 11:08 AM
Like I said before in the solo thread. I don't have a mic to record on, or any programs. And I'm not gonna go out and buy a mic just to show some ignorant guy that I know how to play. Jeez what happened to the old blues forum, when there was a little respect. Guess thats what UB is for. :rolleyes:

Edit: O and to oddi nicki I'm talkin about when you move the slide, without muting.


im sure you are a capable guitarist, however i do find it quite cocky that you found the need to post the laughing smiley as though you find it hilarious that you are anything other than brilliant. And believe it or not, i don't go around every thread looking for every post by you to see whether or not your in possesion of a microphone.

StratRat13
12-07-2005, 11:43 AM
Ok yes the smileys did make me look like a jerk, and I'm sorry. I just find i funny when someone just comes out of nowhere and says, you suck. I guess I was just laughing at how random/immature some peoples posts can be.

Derigiberble
12-07-2005, 11:46 AM
Ok yes the smileys did make me look like a jerk, and I'm sorry. I just find i funny when someone just comes out of nowhere and says, you suck. I guess I was just laughing at how random/immature some peoples posts can be.


aww :D yeah the guy was an arsebandit for making that comment

bumlove? ;)

StratRat13
12-07-2005, 11:48 AM
aww :D yeah the guy was an arsebandit for making that comment

bumlove? ;)

:eek: .......... :) .........WOOO........ :liplick:

zxZoSoxz
12-11-2005, 05:01 PM
Go buy a Son House CD. :cheers:



:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

misfits385
12-11-2005, 07:45 PM
Not delta blues but Duane Allman does some amazing slide work.

TravisWongPG
12-15-2005, 05:50 PM
Ok, forget about Delta Blues... but just playing slide... i need some easy songs to learn and take example of... im still having trouble muting an only playing the strings I want.... plus on an electric if with high sound it makes all the strings sound... eventhouh for no im playing on an acoustic... ive learned It Hurts Me Too by Clapton and The Ballad Of Curtis Loew so far...

StratRat13
12-15-2005, 06:01 PM
Nice choices, I played the Ballad Of Curtis Lowe at our battle of the bands, have you learned Freebird? That picks it up a little from the ballad.

Bluejay451
12-16-2005, 08:26 AM
Maybe it's just me, but I LOVE that open, slidey sound. Anyway, hit the Allman Brother's Band if you want slide... Duane was one of the best blues/rock guitarists EVER.

CheckOutSerafin
12-16-2005, 02:25 PM
Go buy a Son House CD. :cheers:
:cheers:
Encore, I am your friend.

StratRat13
12-16-2005, 05:03 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I LOVE that open, slidey sound. Anyway, hit the Allman Brother's Band if you want slide... Duane was one of the best blues/rock guitarists EVER.

Yeh but not the best for a beginner.

outlawgal
06-03-2006, 08:00 PM
NOOO don't wear it on your pinky, NEVER wear a slide on your pinky, unless you want to hear every other string when you slide it around. Wear it on your ring mute behind with your pointer and infront mute the strings you don't want to hear with your pinky. Also heavier strings and higher action will help. Play notes over the actuall frets, not the space in between. If ya need anymore PM me.

Beg to differ with ya Strat but a lot of folks play with their slide on their pinky without the problems you describe. In fact if you watch the slide tutorial DVD "Bottleneck Blues Guitar" you'll see the instructor, Stefan Grossman, doing just that. Bonnie Raitt also sometimes uses her pinky for slide. Gonna tell that red-headed slide dynamo she's wrong?? Lots of the original Delta Blues guys also played this way at least according to old footage and photos I've seen.

You'll find a lot of female players use this technique simply because our hands are smaller. In fact, my pinkies are so short they barely reach the knuckle of my ring finger and are pretty useless for standard chord-playing. By putting the slide on my pinky, I can compensate for that little flaw of mother nature.

For a long time I used my short pinkies as an excuse not to learn to play til a friend of mine, a fine slide player in his own right, suggested I learn to play slide and use my pinky. Thank goodness I listened to HIM....

:no:

sb7879
09-07-2011, 01:34 PM
NOOO don't wear it on your pinky, NEVER wear a slide on your pinky, unless you want to hear every other string when you slide it around. Wear it on your ring mute behind with your pointer and infront mute the strings you don't want to hear with your pinky. Also heavier strings and higher action will help. Play notes over the actuall frets, not the space in between. If ya need anymore PM me.

I do not agree to your comment here. I learned to play slide on my pinky and on my National tricone. It sounds fantastic. If you play correctly as taught by Bob Brozman you will not hear any additional strings.
I did follow the message thread here and I do not want to get caught up in this mess.

As it was said play where you are comfortable. Pinky works great for me and I get paid to play guitar. I do not hear any complaints.

gerrywm
09-29-2011, 03:25 PM
Pinky or ring finger not that important. I use both, if i want to do hammer ons I put it on my ring finger for just soloing I find i have more control if its on the pinky.

Two guys woth checking out

1 Warren Haynes - Gov Mule and Alman Bros
This has some slide solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1jpQu6qR1E&list=FLheKziI_vCMr5CyqcMyvTeA&index=6

Obviously not for beginers like me and you. Im studying this guy, he is my favourite blues player and used basic technique but with great taste

Rory Gallagher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33Jaodra7AY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GvQ5gNKsQ4&feature=related

Notice - same song plays one time with pinky one with ring fingers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGUXtEMbPU

Something a bit more traditional
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88eLFmaVDdg