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Rocker4500
12-06-2005, 12:55 PM
Heres mine -

Kelly Jones - Stereophonics
Noel Gallagher - Oasis
Matthew Followill - Kings of Leon
sorry but I can't remember his name - The Strokes (lead guitarist)
Gem Archer - Oasis

I know theres loads more so please prove my list to be wrong.

Glen_Hansard
12-06-2005, 02:02 PM
^Nick Valensi is the lead guitarist in the Strokes

Matthew Bellamy - Muse
Peter Buck - REM
Johnny Greenwood - Radiohead
Nick Valensi - The Strokes
Jack White - The White Stripes
Peter Buck - REM

EDIT: Sorry, that's 6

Ciaran6576
12-06-2005, 02:21 PM
Hmmm...I don't have a lot of opinion on this as I don't think a band needs a stellar guitarist to be great, but here are 5 of the best off the top of my head...not really in order (after all, this is art not science):

Doug Martsch
Ted Leo
Jack White
Johnny Greenwood
Billy Corgan

Hmm, yeah, that seems about right...came out better than I thought.

Ciaran6576
12-06-2005, 02:23 PM
Actually, I just realized I should have put somebody from the Wrens in there, but I wouldn't know which one because they're both so good. Please see them in concert if you have a chance!

fiona23
12-06-2005, 02:31 PM
johnny greenwood
graham coxon
matt bellamy
jack white
matthew followhill

starálfur
12-06-2005, 02:43 PM
issac brock (modest mouse)
elliott smith
johnny greenwood (radiohead)
ed o brien (radiohead)
johnsi (sigur ros)

sponj
12-06-2005, 02:54 PM
thurston moore/lee ranaldo/kim gordon/jim o rourke
J mascis
the guy from the new pornographers
Issac brock
nick valensi

i_strum_i_drum
12-06-2005, 03:05 PM
jack white
matthew bellamy
sufjan stevens
minus the bear (both)
johnsi

Zevious Zoquis
12-06-2005, 03:45 PM
Richard Lloyd -- Television
Joey Santiago -- The Pixies
Bob Mould -- Husker Du
Bill Nelson -- Be Bop Deluxe
Bob Stinson -- The Replacements

adyhendrixc
12-06-2005, 05:22 PM
Matthew Bellamy (Muse)
Jack White
Kelly Jones (Stereophonics)

That's all I can b arsed thinkin about for the momenr

HendrixEdge
12-06-2005, 05:39 PM
John Squire
Bernard Butler
James Dean Bradfield
Johnny Marr
Peter Buck

Well I guess you could say that they're rather obvious and unimaginative choices. :p:

FlanInTheFaceRH
12-06-2005, 05:53 PM
awesome that alot of people posted Greenwood.
hes great

starsnostars
12-06-2005, 07:57 PM
my favorites:

jonny greenwood
jonhny marr
stephen malkmus
stephin merritt
efrim menuck

bettyswollox
12-07-2005, 09:32 AM
Jonny Greenwood
Matt Bellamy
Kelly Jones
Graham Coxon
Noel Gallagher

Well thats just my opinion.

Abe
12-07-2005, 10:19 AM
YES! I'm the first person to write

Crispian Mills - Kula Shaker

..but I don't know why that's something to celebrate. :confused:

So...

Noel Gallagher - Oasis
Billy Corgan - Smashing Pumpkins
Graham Coxon - Blur
Matt Bellamy - Muse
Crispian Mills - Kula Shaker

I'd also like to say Jonny Greenwood and Jack White too, because they're great.

Ah ****, John Squire too.

deano_strat
12-07-2005, 10:43 AM
Noel Gallagher? hahahaha

in descending order:-

1. John Squire
2. Johnny Marr
3. Graham Coxon
4. Jonny Greenwood
5. Nick McCabe

that my friends is the final 5... no matter what ANYONE SAYS

bettyswollox
12-07-2005, 12:18 PM
Noel Gallagher? hahahaha

in descending order:-

1. John Squire
2. Johnny Marr
3. Graham Coxon
4. Jonny Greenwood
5. Nick McCabe

that my friends is the final 5... no matter what ANYONE SAYS


Why is Noel Gallagher such a funny choice to you? Still can't argue with greenwood and coxon, i would have put squire there but it says five.

Rocker4500
12-07-2005, 12:19 PM
Noel Gallagher? hahahaha

in descending order:-

1. John Squire
2. Johnny Marr
3. Graham Coxon
4. Jonny Greenwood
5. Nick McCabe

that my friends is the final 5... no matter what ANYONE SAYS



What's wrong with Noel? He aint the best, but still a very talented songwriter.

bettyswollox
12-07-2005, 12:20 PM
^^I second that just look at Oasis for God's sake.

Rocker4500
12-07-2005, 12:26 PM
Good band. Good guitarist. Good Music.

Still, everyone to their own.

thomyorke_123
12-07-2005, 02:31 PM
(No order)
Johnny Greenwood
Matt Belamy
Guitarist from Bloc Party
Johnny Marr
Jack White

bettyswollox
12-07-2005, 02:50 PM
^^^Is that russel (the white guy) Or Kele (lead singer, black guy)

HarmlessLilF*ck
12-07-2005, 07:24 PM
J Mascis
Mike McCready
Thurston Moore
Johnny Greenwood
Johnny Marr

Honourable mentions: Jeff Buckley, John Squire

wilprs
12-07-2005, 08:35 PM
elliott smith was a great guitarist/songwriter.

r.i.p. elliott

deano_strat
12-08-2005, 11:06 AM
you put

McCabe, Coxon, Greenwood, Marr and Squire in a room with Noel - they'll all just out play him till he ends up startin a fight with someone... Noel Gallagher can only play the minor pentatonic scale... thats almost all oasis guitar solos are based around... u cant put noel gallagher in a list with those other five... it's just wrong

ohdarn323
12-08-2005, 11:16 AM
Doug Martsch
Johnny Greenwood
Isaac Brock
Carl Newman

Tombe
12-08-2005, 05:00 PM
Glad to see Greenwood and Marr getting a lot of mentions. Mine are...


Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead)
Johnny Marr (The Smiths)
Peter Buck (REM)
Ant Theaker/Mike Hibbert (Hope of the States)
Graham Coxon (Blur)

Abe
12-09-2005, 12:31 PM
u cant put noel gallagher in a list with those other five... it's just wrong

I can....and choose to ;)

Someone mentioned Jeff Buckley, and I'd like to add him to my list, which makes about 7 or 8 so far :(

He's fantastic.

thomyorke_123
12-09-2005, 02:06 PM
^^^Is that russel (the white guy) Or Kele (lead singer, black guy)


The white guy, it only struck me how good he was when i saw them

I have completely forgotten Carl Barat

slinks
12-09-2005, 04:09 PM
1) J. Mascis
2) Thurston Moore
3) Johnny Marr
4) Graham Coxon
5) Isaac Brock

Honorable Mention: Buckley, Greenwood

Alarming Carrot
12-09-2005, 05:34 PM
My top 5 current guitarists(that is to say that are somewhat new)

1. Matthew Friederberger from the Fiery Furnaces - he has a nice, fresh sound that I really enjoy plus the solo on Inspector Blanchflower is one of the best ever.
2. M. Ward - i'm a little partial to folk guitarists so I really like this guy.
3. Jeff Tweedy - i really like his rhythms, very catchy and it looked like he was outplaying Cline when I went to see them in concert.
4. Win Butler - another good guitarist that doesn't have to play ridiculously complicated leads, he just plays original stuff.
5. the guy from Les Savy Fav - unconventional and badass; sounds a little like the guitars of Fugazi.

chris4
12-09-2005, 05:55 PM
Mine:
1.Rogers Stevens-Blind Melon
2.Christopher Thorn-Blind Melon
3.Dave Keuning-Killers
4.Noel Gallagher-Oasis
5.Johnny Greenwood=Radiohead

Iluvpowerchords
12-09-2005, 06:02 PM
Anyone who doesn't list J Mascis is crazy.

Dinosaur Jr. are amazing.

To finish the list

2:Ted Leo
3:Isaac Brock
4:Johnny Greenwood
5:Larry LaLonde

IThinkNot
12-09-2005, 06:41 PM
Anyone who doesn't list J Mascis is crazy.

Dinosaur Jr. are amazing.

To finish the list

2:Ted Leo
3:Isaac Brock
4:Johnny Greenwood
5:Larry LaLonde


Just saw them play last weekend. He's still amazing now. Haha, but he looked kind of like an indian chieftain with this long grey hair and shirt with an bald eagle on it. :D

Iluvpowerchords
12-09-2005, 07:48 PM
Just saw them play last weekend. He's still amazing now. Haha, but he looked kind of like an indian chieftain with this long grey hair and shirt with an bald eagle on it. :D

:haha :haha

The mental image I get from that is hilarious.

pumpkins_rule
12-09-2005, 09:58 PM
Johnny Marr was a phenominal rythym player. And Squire put more good hooks into The Stone Roses' S/T then all the hooks (ripped off of course) in all 8 LZ albums combined. Noel Gallagher is really good too. I don't really mind that all Oasis solos sound the same. Anyone who writes the guitar parts to Acquiesce and Headshrinker is awseome in my book. So I guess my list would look like this:

1.Johnny Marr
2.Noel Gallagher
3.John Squire
4.Billy Corgan/James Iha
5.Thurston Moore/Lee Ranaldo

goathair_3
12-10-2005, 09:59 AM
Nick Valensi is not the lead guitarist for the Strokes since they don't have a strictly "lead" guitarist. They trade off lead lines, though I do think Nick is more talented than Albert.

My top 5 "indie" guitarists:
1. Marr
2. Greenwood
3. Joey Santiago - Pixies
4. Jack White
5. Jerry Harrison - Talking Heads

Rocker4500
12-10-2005, 02:32 PM
you put

McCabe, Coxon, Greenwood, Marr and Squire in a room with Noel - they'll all just out play him till he ends up startin a fight with someone... Noel Gallagher can only play the minor pentatonic scale... thats almost all oasis guitar solos are based around... u cant put noel gallagher in a list with those other five... it's just wrong


The amount of scales you use does not affect your status as a good/crap guitarist. It's what you do with them. Also, being a good guitarist isn't all about amazing solos, it can also be about clever riffs, and songwriting. The latter being a field in which Noel could do far better than your 5 listed guitarists. He uses some damn clever chord progressions.

Jammer39
12-10-2005, 02:37 PM
Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead)
Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins)
Johnsi (Sigur Ros)
Matthew Bellamy (Muse)
Elliott Smith

deano_strat
12-10-2005, 02:38 PM
The amount of scales you use does not affect your status as a good/crap guitarist. It's what you do with them. Also, being a good guitarist isn't all about amazing solos, it can also be about clever riffs, and songwriting. The latter being a field in which Noel could do far better than your 5 listed guitarists. He uses some damn clever chord progressions.

in the words of Vicky Pollard "OH MY GOD I SOOOOOOO CANT BELEIVE U JUST SAID THAT"

so let me understand you are trying to Say Noel Gallagher can write songs better than John Squire? you must be having a laugh - even noel's finest hour The Masterplan probably the best lyrics he's wrote... or Morning Glory - doesn't compare to Made of Stone, Waterfall, Mersey Paradise, even I Wanna Be Adored

and were you insinuating that Noel gallagher can come up with better riffs than Graham Coxon???????????

or he can use his guitar more inventively than JONNY GREEWOOD or NICK MCCABE???

Noel Gallagher has said himself he wanted to Johnny Marr so i'll leave that...

they're red hot
12-10-2005, 05:40 PM
In no particular order:

Omar A. Rodriguez Lopez (Mars Volta)
Johnny Greenwood (Radiohead)
Jeff Buckley (Jeff Buckley)
Matthew Bellamy (Muse)
Peter Buck (REM)

But there's nothing wrong with Oasis's guitarist.
He's pretty damn solid.

0josh0
12-11-2005, 02:30 PM
russel!! from bloc party.

hes really really good. some of the soudns he gets. im getin the same guiatr as him for xmas, and the same hair as him, and we weaaar the same clothes, and im a skinny white guy....

sponj
12-11-2005, 02:51 PM
^lolz N00bz0r Omg Lyek P0zr!1shift+eleven

nirvanarhcp
12-11-2005, 03:57 PM
Johnny Greenwood
Matt Bellamy
Noel Gallagher
Graham Coxon
Russel of Bloc Party

Rocker4500
12-12-2005, 04:01 AM
in the words of Vicky Pollard "OH MY GOD I SOOOOOOO CANT BELEIVE U JUST SAID THAT"

so let me understand you are trying to Say Noel Gallagher can write songs better than John Squire? you must be having a laugh - even noel's finest hour The Masterplan probably the best lyrics he's wrote... or Morning Glory - doesn't compare to Made of Stone, Waterfall, Mersey Paradise, even I Wanna Be Adored

and were you insinuating that Noel gallagher can come up with better riffs than Graham Coxon???????????

or he can use his guitar more inventively than JONNY GREEWOOD or NICK MCCABE???

Noel Gallagher has said himself he wanted to Johnny Marr so i'll leave that...


That is a fair point, but still, you can't say Noel Gallagher can't use his guitar inventively at all. He's come up with some great riffs; Cigarettes & Alcohol, Supersonic, Morning Glory, Wonderwall, I could go on.

Also, you have so many arguments against Oasis, but in your profile they appear to be one of your favourite bands.

lvad48
12-12-2005, 09:24 AM
Matt Bellamy
John Squier
James Dean Bradfield
Graham Coxon
Steve Craddock

I think Bradfield is severly underrated, i haven't put Noel up because none of his riffs overly impressed me...not saying he's not good, and admittly he did just write simple riffs which do the job great, John Squier speaks for himself really he was generally a great pioneer for the shaping of 90's music

deano_strat
12-12-2005, 10:00 AM
That is a fair point, but still, you can't say Noel Gallagher can't use his guitar inventively at all. He's come up with some great riffs; Cigarettes & Alcohol, Supersonic, Morning Glory, Wonderwall, I could go on.

Also, you have so many arguments against Oasis, but in your profile they appear to be one of your favourite bands.


hehehe... he didnt even come up with most of the cigarettes and alcohol riff... i didnt say Noel CANT use his guitar inventively... but in the Alt and Indie world theres a shit load more people who can and do it better than him... they are one of my favourite bands... well they were, the first two albums are awesome... but the rest... contain a few good songs and the rest are poor...

i think thats whats appealing about oasis anyway, theyre not great musicians and guitairists... but isn't this thread about GREAT guitarists?

Ababil_Albarn
12-12-2005, 10:09 AM
in alphbetical order

Matt Bellamy (Muse)
Peter Buck (R.E.M.)
Graham Coxon (Blur)
Rivers Cuomo (Weezer)
Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead)

that's my 0.02 cents...

Hokalicky
12-12-2005, 01:27 PM
1. JOHNNY MARR (The Smiths)
2. JACK WHITE (The White Stripes)
3. JOEY SANTIAGO (Pixies)
4. GRAHAM COXON (Blur)
5. JOHN SQUIRE (The Stone Roses)

duncang
12-12-2005, 01:32 PM
Matt Bellamy
Graham Coxon
Jack White
Nick....The Strokes guy....
Peter Buck

Rocker4500
12-12-2005, 02:08 PM
hehehe... he didnt even come up with most of the cigarettes and alcohol riff... i didnt say Noel CANT use his guitar inventively... but in the Alt and Indie world theres a shit load more people who can and do it better than him... they are one of my favourite bands... well they were, the first two albums are awesome... but the rest... contain a few good songs and the rest are poor...

i think thats whats appealing about oasis anyway, theyre not great musicians and guitairists... but isn't this thread about GREAT guitarists?


Good point. So who did come up with that riff out of interest? I can only assume it was Bonehead?

Tombe
12-12-2005, 03:25 PM
That is a fair point, but still, you can't say Noel Gallagher can't use his guitar inventively at all. He's come up with some great riffs; Cigarettes & Alcohol, Supersonic, Morning Glory, Wonderwall, I could go on.


I think that compared to Jonny Greenwood and Matt Bellamy, you can't really call Noel Gallagher an inventive guitarist. I can't really picture him writing something like the intro to Plug In Baby or the Paranoid Android solo...

Mad Adam
12-12-2005, 03:39 PM
nick valensi - the strokes
jack white - the white stripes
pat walden - babyshambles
graham coxon - graham coxon

Draken
12-12-2005, 03:47 PM
Matt Bellamy - Muse
Johnny Greenwood - Radiohead
Ed O' Brian - Radiohead
Graham Coxon - Blur
Joey Santiago - The Pixies

animalfarm
12-12-2005, 04:20 PM
Larry Lalonde (Primus) - I guess probably the technically best guitarist in the indy scene (if you can call primus indy :rolleyes: ). He's got shred style playing and took lessons from satriani I think. And his playing (theoretical basis etc) and sound is simply sick :D

J. Mascis (Dinosaur Jr) - His solos are great, very long and very emotional (check out "out there"), he's a got a fantastic feeling for melodic soloing. And he's got a great rhythm guitar sound (on CD at least).

Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth) - He can rape his guitar like no other man. And king of weirdtuning :D

Omar Rodriguez (Mars Volta) - Great improvising. And a great sense for ****ed up songs. His plaing has got jazz quality.

Johnny Marr (smiths) - very versatile and great tone

JOhnny greenwood (radiohead) - Great use of effects

And finally john Frusciante, if rhcp can be counted alternative. I'd put him above all the others if thats so, his funk and solo stuff are simply beyond all other things here listed :D


Matt bellamy is good as well, though I do not find his playing really that hard. He's got some faster stuff, but nothing truely superior. What makes him good is the wall he can build up with those effects he uses. And singing so good as bellamy and playing at the same time isn't that easy I'd say.

And gallagher isn't a very good guitarist. If his songs are good, thats to be left to discuss, but most of the stuff he plays is quite easy actually. He certainly hasn't got any technical superiority...

terrencemaddox
12-13-2005, 12:44 AM
Hmmm...I don't have a lot of opinion on this as I don't think a band needs a stellar guitarist to be great, but here are 5 of the best off the top of my head...not really in order (after all, this is art not science):

Doug Martsch
Ted Leo
Jack White
Johnny Greenwood
Billy Corgan

Hmm, yeah, that seems about right...came out better than I thought.
replace jack white with Ed Obrien and I totally agree with you

Nikki 66Sixx
12-14-2005, 04:56 AM
Top five indie guitarists (no order)
1.Kelly Jones - Stereophonics
2.Noel Gallagher - Oasis
3.Graham Coxon - Blur/Graham Coxon
4.John Squire - Stone Roses
5.Russell ? - Bloc Party

Double Basser
12-14-2005, 06:06 AM
John Butler pwns all

Abe
12-14-2005, 11:50 AM
Good point. So who did come up with that riff out of interest? I can only assume it was Bonehead?

The C&A riff was pretty much lifted from a T. Rex song called 'Get It On' so Marc Bolan came up with that one.

There's no point arguing about Noel Gallagher, it's all a matter of opinion just like everything else, so enough of the annoying Little Britain catchphrases and pointless arguing, let's be done with it.

joshsirjoshules
12-17-2005, 12:47 PM
i cant narrow it down to five sorry

Jeff Tweedy/Nels Cline-Wilco
Johnny Marr-The Smiths
Steven Drozd/Ronald Jones-The Flaming Lips
Nick Zinner-Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Richard Lloyd-Television
The Edge-U2
Jerry Harrison-Talking Heads
Bernard Sumner-New Order
Andy Gill-Gang Of Four

oblique
12-17-2005, 01:37 PM
Jonny Greenwood
The lead guitarist from Minus the Bear
The other guitarist from Minus the Bear
Jeff Buckley
Matt Bellamy

dropkicks18
12-17-2005, 02:07 PM
you guys: (sorry i cant rember names, but here are their bands)
1. Senses Fail
2. Oaisis
3. Pixies
4. smashing pumkins

Mad Adam
12-17-2005, 02:26 PM
when did oasis become indie or alternative? or U2?

Rocker4500
12-18-2005, 09:47 AM
when did oasis become indie or alternative? or U2?


Oasis became alternative when they lost their Brit-pop sound.
Some might say they lost it that sound through Morning Glory (excuse the pun), others may say Be Here Now. But now listening to the latest album, I think you'll agree that it's more alternative than Definatley Maybe.

armitage_cake
12-19-2005, 07:08 PM
Matt Bellamy
Jack White
Noel Gallagher
Russel Lissack (Bloc Party)
John Frusciante

a_muse_me
12-19-2005, 10:01 PM
valensi, jack white, matt bellamy, matthew followill and cedric bixler i think it is of mars volta

longlivethemice
01-06-2006, 03:45 PM
1.Isaac Brock(Modest Mouse)
2.Joey Santiago(Pixies)
3.Stephen Malkmus(Pavement)
4.Jeff Magnum(Neutral Milk Hotel)
5.Dan Auberach(Black Keys)
and how...

galateastilston
01-06-2006, 03:58 PM
these aren't in any particular order...

Sam Beam - Iron and Wine
Sufjan Stevens - Sufjan Stevens
Nick Drake - Nick Drake
Damien Rice - Damien Rice
Ben Gibbard - Death Cab For Cutie (though he also plays piano...)

tezhall
01-06-2006, 04:03 PM
Anyone said Graham Coxon yet?

edit - just went back to see what other people said, and yes they did :D namely, and in order, Fiona23, Bettyswollox, Abe, Deano_strat, Ivad48, Ababil_Albarn, Hokalicky, DuncanG, Mad Adam, Draken and Nikki 66Sixx.

So it seems I'm just the latest in a loooooooong list lol

they're red hot
01-06-2006, 06:14 PM
John Butler pwns all

:D
Live on!
:cheers:

trev_smith12
01-06-2006, 08:52 PM
1. Billy Corgan
2. Jack White
3. Thurston Moore
4. Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
5. Elliott Smith

uhh_me?
01-06-2006, 11:28 PM
j mascis
thurston moore

edited over a year and a half later because i decided the remainder of my list sucked

Abe
01-07-2006, 03:38 AM
Anyone said Graham Coxon yet?

edit - just went back to see what other people said, and yes they did :D namely, and in order, Fiona23, Bettyswollox, Abe, Deano_strat, Ivad48, Ababil_Albarn, Hokalicky, DuncanG, Mad Adam, Draken and Nikki 66Sixx.

So it seems I'm just the latest in a loooooooong list lol

:haha

rogue.orchid
01-07-2006, 07:00 AM
matt followill kicks arse....... but matt bellamy easily does it for me

soccermom
01-07-2006, 07:21 AM
this is my top five:
5) graham coxon ( blur)
4) nick valensi ( the strokes)
3)johnny mar ( the smiths)
2) matt bellamy (muse)
1) J D mascis ( dinosaur jr) Kurt cobain should be in there because although he was
not as great he did write smells like teen spirit.

radiofight202
01-08-2006, 09:42 PM
johnny greenwood
noel gallagher
nick zinner
kelly jones
albert hammond jr.

redteamleader
01-09-2006, 03:35 PM
mine, no particular order:

jack white
nick valensi (the strokes)
johnny greenwood (radiohead)
rich robinson (the black crowes)

GrungeMonkey
01-10-2006, 04:23 PM
J. Mascis - Dinosaur Jr
Tom Morello - Rage Against The Machine/Audioslave
Jack White - The White Stripes
Thurston Moore - Sonic Youth
Billy Corgan - Smashing Pumpkins

I guess Lee Ranaldo of Sonic Youth is probably the equal of Thurston Moore, but Thurston's just so much cooler.

Evan_lesPaul
01-12-2006, 12:38 AM
Omar Rodriguez Lopez (at the drive-in, mars volta)
Tim Kasher (cursive)
Jonny Greenwood (radiohead)
Nicolas Arson (the hives, not a great guitarist, but a cool one)
one of the three guitarists of Bear vs Shark

Unseen_hero
01-12-2006, 06:22 AM
The lead guitarist from Minus the Bear
The other guitarist from Minus the Bear


agreed. Since the the music is normally so catchy you don't always notice how complex the stuff they are playing actually is. The same goes for Braid

D. Boone - minutemen
isaac brock - modest mouse
nick drake
phil taylor - oso/volta do mar
ian/guy - fugazi (seamless interplay)

Alarming Carrot
01-12-2006, 04:57 PM
D. Boone - minutemen

Nice pick. Another guy I want to add to mine is Badly Drawn Boy. Listen to "A Minor Incident" if you want to know why.

Manzo
01-12-2006, 05:20 PM
Hooray for Badly Drawn Boy!

jmilli2
01-18-2006, 04:42 AM
Crispian Mills (Kula Shaker)
Steve Craddock (Ocean Colour Scene)
Matthew Bellamy (Muse)
John Squire (Stone Roses / Seahorses)
Me

:D

thomyorke_123
01-18-2006, 08:10 AM
the strokes guitarist has definateley proved his ability the solo on vision of division is incredible

Serbitar
01-23-2006, 07:25 PM
1. Dave Navarro (Jane's Addiction)
2. Jerry Cantrell (Alice In Chains)
3. James Dean Bradfield (Manic Street Preachers)
4. Tom Morello (Rage Against The Machine)
5. Matt Bellamy (Muse)

Honourable mentions: Adam Jones (Tool), Kim Thayil (Soundgarden), Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead), John Squire (The Stone Roses), Billy Corgan (The Smashing Pumpkins).

terrencemaddox
01-24-2006, 12:41 PM
^ only learned to play his tracks? How long did that take you?

leadpipes
01-24-2006, 02:39 PM
Coxon
Barat
Valensi
Walden
Squire

Goon
02-05-2006, 04:45 AM
Sorry to bump this thread but..

I just saw Sleater- Kinney and boy do those girls know how to play guitar! Well too. Really well. Extra credit goes to them for not having a bassist to back them up.

popcornmaster
02-08-2006, 02:34 PM
no particular order

matt bellamy - for his superb playing and able to improvise live while singing note for note perfect

jonny greenwood - no real need to explain

kim thayl (sry for typo) - for his exceptional solo-ing .

billy corgan - for pretty much the same reasons as matt

brian molko - generally sexy

Rodders
07-03-2006, 04:54 PM
1. Simon Neil
2. Johnny Greenwood
3. Jeff Buckley
4. Matt Bellamy
5. The guitarists from Oceansize...

DorkusMalorkus
07-03-2006, 05:55 PM
I guess Lee Ranaldo of Sonic Youth is probably the equal of Thurston Moore, but Thurston's just so much cooler.
:eek: Don't speak such things! Lee is better than Thurston.

I don't remember if I posted in this thread or not...

Lee/Thurston yada yada I love Sonic Youth
Wayne Coyne/Steven Drozd
Stephen Malkmus
J Mascis
Billy Corgan
Avey Tare/Deakin

Draken
07-03-2006, 06:13 PM
Jonny Greenwood
Matt Bellamy
Joey Santiago
Jón Ţór (Jónsi) Birgisson
Graham Coxon

rocknrollstar5
07-03-2006, 06:17 PM
1. John Squire
2. Johnny Marr
3. Gem Archer
4. Noel Gallagher
5. George Harrison

SupImJimmy
07-03-2006, 07:41 PM
Graham Coxon from Blur.
Nick Valensi from the Strokes.
Johnny Greenwood from Radiohead.

and Jack White gets an honorable mention because of his beastly slide guitar.

Oh duh, and Marr...

sponj
07-03-2006, 07:45 PM
the strokes guitarist has definateley proved his ability the solo on vision of division is incredible

that song sounds like a muse song

IronBeard
07-03-2006, 08:16 PM
1. Simon Neil
2. Johnny Greenwood
3. Jeff Buckley
4. Matt Bellamy
5. The guitarists from Oceansize...
Poifect.

Bringitondown
07-04-2006, 03:19 PM
Noel Gallagher
Jonny Greenwood
Graham Coxon
Johnny Marr
Matt Bellamy

rocknrollstar5
07-04-2006, 04:43 PM
Steve Craddock (Ocean Colour Scene)


Thats the one, couldn't think what he was called. He's a class guitarist

Cadd99
07-04-2006, 11:36 PM
1) Nick Valensi (The Strokes)
2) Albert Hammond Jr. (The Strokes)
3) Matthew Followill (Kings Of Leon)
4) Russel Lissack (Bloc Party)
5) Keith Murray (We Are Scientists)

I think the chorus of "Reptilia" by The Strokes represents why they take the top two spots. The way everything comes together and compliments eachother is amazing.

Caustic
07-05-2006, 12:23 AM
Johnny Greenwood. (Radiohead)
Johnny Marr. (The Smiths)
Billy Corgan. (Smashing Pumpkins)
Kevin Shields. (My Bloody Valentine)
John Squire. (Stone Roses)

Bmm386
07-05-2006, 01:52 AM
Jack White
Nick Valensi
Albert Hammond Jr.

Not many people know that Albert Hammond Jr. is just as good as Valensi, he just doesn't enjoy solos.

Matthew_1
07-05-2006, 06:51 AM
1: Joey Santiago-Pixies
2: J. Mascis - Dinosaur jr.
3: Noel Gallagher - Oasis
4: James Iha - Smashing Pumpkins
5: Peter Buck - REM

Monkeygone2hvn
07-05-2006, 02:02 PM
1.omar rodriguez-lopez (at the drive in, The mars volta)
2.jonny greenwood/ ed o'brian(radiohead)
3. john frusciante (rhcp, and his amazing solo work)
4. james iha, billy corgan (the smashing pumpkins)
5. jeff tweedy (uncle tupelo, wilco)

honorable mentions: rivers cuomo/brian bell (weezer), jack white (the white stripes),joey santiago/frank black (the pixies), issac brock(modest mouse)

oasis247
07-05-2006, 07:02 PM
1. Noel Gallagher (Oasis)
2. Gem Archer (Oasis)
3. Johnny Marr (The Smiths)
4. John Squire (The Stone Roses)
5. Nick McCabe (The Verve)

JET116
07-19-2006, 09:41 AM
Elliot Smith
Johnny Greenwood

What the hell? Nick Valensi???

Wtf? Hell no

Bmm386
07-19-2006, 12:28 PM
Elliot Smith
Johnny Greenwood

What the hell? Nick Valensi???

Wtf? Hell no

Have You listened to any tracks off of Room On Fire?

They're quite talented, The Strokes.

Cadd99
07-19-2006, 01:12 PM
Have You listened to any tracks off of Room On Fire?

They're quite talented, The Strokes.
Definitely. The riffage on Room On Fire is complex and technical, yet fun to listen to, and all the riffs fit the songs perfectly.

honkey
07-19-2006, 07:00 PM
My top 5 current guitarists(that is to say that are somewhat new)

1. Matthew Friederberger from the Fiery Furnaces - he has a nice, fresh sound that I really enjoy plus the solo on Inspector Blanchflower is one of the best ever.
2. M. Ward - i'm a little partial to folk guitarists so I really like this guy.
3. Jeff Tweedy - i really like his rhythms, very catchy and it looked like he was outplaying Cline when I went to see them in concert.
4. Win Butler - another good guitarist that doesn't have to play ridiculously complicated leads, he just plays original stuff.
5. the guy from Les Savy Fav - unconventional and badass; sounds a little like the guitars of Fugazi.
Win is awesome

I put him as number 1 on my list.

my list doesnt exist fyi.

webby1990
07-19-2006, 07:16 PM
oh come on, radiohead? muse? smashing pumpkins? the strokes? none of these bands fit in this category of 'best indi guitarist' because, simply, they are not indie. at all. i like indie, but none of the guitarists can be called particularly good, they strum chords, seriously...

slinks
07-19-2006, 07:32 PM
^ It's best Alt/Indie guitarist. Alt=alternative. All those bands you mentioned are alternative. Get it? And if you think all indie guitarists do is strum chords, then you just don't know what you're talking about. That's a gross generalization.

webby1990
07-19-2006, 07:41 PM
ok fair enough i didn't see the 'alt' bit, but indie guitarists DO just strum chords, someone prove me wrong and then i'll stand corrected

slinks
07-19-2006, 07:47 PM
Ever heard of J. Mascis?

webby1990
07-19-2006, 07:50 PM
ever heard of, ok i give up trying to defend myself i just don't like indie guitarists well done for proving me wrong?

slinks
07-19-2006, 07:53 PM
Sure, why not. It's just that you can't pigeonhole "indie guitarists" because "indie" is such a broad term. It's so broad it's barely even a genre.

webby1990
07-19-2006, 07:55 PM
then let's not pigeonhole them, let them free to be guitar playing meisers who royally suck MOST of the time...

slinks
07-19-2006, 07:58 PM
:rolleyes:
And on that note, I'm done with this discussion.

Cadd99
07-20-2006, 01:23 PM
ok fair enough i didn't see the 'alt' bit, but indie guitarists DO just strum chords, someone prove me wrong and then i'll stand corrected
Writing a good indie song with only chords is harder than writing a song in any other genre. It's not just the chords, it's how the bassline meshes with the chords, and how a broken chord fits with so-and-so bass note. The fingering of the chords are usually inversions and complicated, switching them is hard. You try to write a good indie song, then you can talk **** about indie guitarists that "only strum chords".

travis__002
07-20-2006, 01:40 PM
matthew good
noel gallagher
johnny greenwood
billy corgan
nick valensi

annn
07-22-2006, 11:17 AM
the strokes guitarist has definateley proved his ability the solo on vision of division is incredible

It's Albert Hammond Jr in this case but usually Nick plays solos thou there are a few songs where Albert plays solos.

My top5:
1. Nick Valensi
2. Albert Hammond Jr
3. Dave Keuning
4. Alex Turner
5. Matthew Bellamy

EmoBastard
07-22-2006, 03:32 PM
1. S. Malkmus
2. F. Black
3. I. Brock
4. B. Gibbard
5. T. Moore

upstroke
07-23-2006, 02:05 PM
J Mascis. (DinosaurJr)
Thurston Moore. (Sonic Youth)
Johnny Greenwood. (Radiohead)
Billy Corgan. (Smashing Pumpkins)
Joey Santiago. (The Pixies)

sponj
07-23-2006, 02:50 PM
It's Albert Hammond Jr in this case but usually Nick plays solos thou there are a few songs where Albert plays solos.




i saw them live yesterday and i'm pretty sure it was nick who played the solo of vision of divison.
I was impressed that albert played that sweet riff from reptilia!(not the solo)

pumpkins_rule
07-23-2006, 02:55 PM
then let's not pigeonhole them, let them free to be guitar playing meisers who royally suck MOST of the time...

You fail. You can't tell how talented a guitarist is by what they play on record. Most of the time they play in a similar syle as their influences, and just because their music isn't rooted in classick rock or metal doesn't mean it's "untalented." Besides, the scope of the Alt/Indie genre is enormous, so until you've actualy heard a fair amount you can by no means condemn MOST indie guitarists.

Cadd99
07-23-2006, 03:01 PM
i saw them live yesterday and i'm pretty sure it was nick who played the solo of vision of divison.
I was impressed that albert played that sweet riff from reptilia!(not the solo)
Yeah, he's lead on all of Reptilia (minus the solo).

mrpie
07-23-2006, 04:10 PM
1.Jack White
2.Thurston moore
3. Nick Valensi (the strokes)
4. Nick Zinner (yeah yeah yeah's)
5. Matt bellammy (Muse)

Nemm
07-28-2006, 05:55 AM
you put

McCabe, Coxon, Greenwood, Marr and Squire in a room with Noel - they'll all just out play him till he ends up startin a fight with someone... Noel Gallagher can only play the minor pentatonic scale... thats almost all oasis guitar solos are based around... u cant put noel gallagher in a list with those other five... it's just wrong

How ironic, incase you didn't know, Noel Gallagher wrote many of McCabe's and Marr's guitar riffs & solos. Do some research.

Yakult
07-28-2006, 06:35 AM
Jonny Greenwood
The lead guitarist from Minus the Bear
The other guitarist from Minus the Bear
Jeff Buckley
Matt Bellamy

Definately Minus the Bear guitarists: it's the best guitarwork I've heard from an indie band for a while

LaudanumGaze
07-30-2006, 12:45 AM
Omar Rodriguez-Lopez -The Mars Volta
Kurt Cobain-Nirvana
Billy Corgan-The Smashing Pumpkins
Jerry Cantrell-Alice in Chains
ME

liveforever89
07-30-2006, 04:20 AM
Noel Gallagher - Oasis
Kelly Jones - Stereophonics
Joel Kosche - Collective Soul
Travis Meeks - Days of the New
Jerry Cantrell - Alice In Chains

Gem Archer is a good one as well. i think he is highly underrated. and deano boy may not think noel is good...but he is. from what i know, he does hang out with those boys, so i'd have to assume that at one point they would have had to be in the same room together and i didn't hear or read about any fights. Noel technically isn't the greatest, but he is great at hitting the right notes and the right time. hence : columbia, supersonic, champagne supernova, some might say, live forever and i could go on. so there. it's mainly opinion.

indie24
08-12-2006, 07:46 AM
omfg, i can't believe that no one has said Craig Nicholls.

Griswold
08-12-2006, 08:45 AM
David Pajo - Slint
Joey Santiago - Pixies
Thurston Moore - Sonic Youth
Steve Albini - Shellac
Duane Denison - Jesus Lizard

joeyramoney
08-12-2006, 09:07 PM
j mascis beats them all.

paintITblack39
08-13-2006, 10:32 PM
no order...

Noel Gallagher - Oasis
Nick Valensi - The Strokes
Jonny Greenwood - Radiohead
Nick McCabe - The Verve
John Squire - Stone Roses

He never said best guitarist, he said Top 5, meaning it can be any kind of list, whether its best or favorite.

Nefro
08-13-2006, 10:38 PM
J Mascis. (DinosaurJr)
Thurston Moore. (Sonic Youth)
Johnny Greenwood. (Radiohead)
Billy Corgan. (Smashing Pumpkins)
Joey Santiago. (The Pixies)


anything less than the best is a felony

purple_pilot
08-15-2006, 10:39 PM
1. John Frusciante
2. Lou Reed
3. Omar Rodriguez
4. Dean DeLeo
5. Thurston Moore

Unseen_hero
08-16-2006, 01:55 AM
can we do duos?

Thurston/Lee - Sonic Youth
----------Ash Bowie - Polvo (don't know the other guitarists name/can't spell it)
David Pajo/Brian Mcmahon - Slint/Early The For Carnation
Dough Martsch - Built to Spill
D. Boone - Minutemen
Isaac Brock - Modesto Mouso


I'd like to mention Phil Taylor of Volta do Mar and Oso---if you think Jose Gonzalez has talent in the flamenco department-- wait til you hear Taylor pretty much not play a cohesive 'riff' on one of vdm's album... somehow he turns such intricate playing into texture.

MarqueeMoon77
09-01-2006, 01:52 AM
1. Tom Verlaine (Television)
2. Thurston Moore/Lee Ranaldo (Sonic Youth)
3. J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr.)
4. Sterling Morrison (Velvet Underground)
5. Stephen Malkmus/Spiral Stairs (Pavement)

(i just saw Dinosaur live and wow my ears are like blown to bits)

mr.spak
09-03-2006, 04:53 PM
jonny ****in greenwood. radiohead rock

random_idiot144
09-03-2006, 11:40 PM
I remeber seeing Albert on a video from one of my friends and he was playing some mean blues. The kind of stuff that just gets to you and gives you chills. I was rather impressed with that, too bad I cant find the damn video...Omar I think deserves some more credit. His style is very unique and the way he uses his effects and incorporates everything so well is quite amazing. I also remember seeing Nick Valensi doing some Steve Vai rather well if I may add.

European Son
06-20-2007, 11:11 AM
I'm reviving this thread. :dance:

1. Tom Verlaine (Television)
2. Johnny Marr (Smiths)
3. Kevin Shields (My Bloody Valentine)
4. Matt Bellamy (Muse)

Can't think of a number 5... Oh Well...

UMadeMeRealise
06-20-2007, 12:22 PM
In no particular order;

Kevin Shields (My Bloody Valentine), Johnny Marr (Smiths/Modest Mouse), Graham Coxon (Blur/solo), Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead), Nick Zinner (Yeah Yeah Yeahs)

YourLastAffront
06-20-2007, 12:52 PM
Jeff Mueller/Jason Noble
David Pajo
Ash Bowie/Dave Brylawski
Kevin Shields/Bilinda Butcher
Doug Lorig

S)E-Javelin
06-20-2007, 01:20 PM
Noel Gallagher (Oasis)
Jon Buckland (Coldplay)
Peter Buck (REM)

Doolittle
06-20-2007, 01:45 PM
1)Thurston Moore
2)D.Boon
3)Tom Verlaine
4)Lou Reed
5)J.Mascis

STRAT811
06-20-2007, 04:22 PM
Nels Cline (Wilco)
Jonny/Ed (Radiohead)
Elliott Smith
Matt Bellamy (Muse)
Brian Bell (Weezer)

jaymyvendetta
06-20-2007, 05:41 PM
How the hell did it take 11 posts for Johnny Marr to be mentioned? Number one, easily.

Johnny Marr
Thurston Moore
Johnny Greenwood
Jeff Buckley
James Williamson

Edit: v It was hardly 1982 though was it? Forgive me for commenting on something that happened weeks beforehand.

European Son
06-20-2007, 05:48 PM
That was a loooong time ago. :rolleyes:

fender f**kwit
07-21-2007, 09:04 PM
in no particular order,

Johnny Greenwood, for paranoid android.
Billy Corgan, simply for the sound of his guitar on siamese dream, and for proving that just because you can shred like van halen, you shouldn't let it get in the way of a powerful melody.
Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, as much for his showmanship as for his formidable musicianship.
Albert Hammond Jr. for his solo on ize of the world.
Jack White for playing like Jack White.

i would also like to draw attention to Paul Simon, who is actually a rather amazing folk guitarist.
just listen to the 59th street bridge song,
or "bleecker street" off of wednesday morning, 3am,
and you'll see what i mean.

paintITblack39
07-22-2007, 10:14 PM
I'm gonna change my order, as my tastes in music have changed a lot and again in no order

Kevin Shields (My Bloody Valentine)
Stephen Malkmus (Pavement)
Thurston Moore
J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr.)
Lou Reed

Draken
07-23-2007, 04:44 AM
Stephen Malkmus (Pavement)
Steven Drozd (The Flaming Lips)
Bryan Poole (Of Montreal)
Jeff J. Lin (Harvey Danger)
Sufjan Stevens

batesyy
07-23-2007, 06:09 AM
Mike McCready
Kevin Shields
J Mascis
Johnny Greenwood
Munaf Rayani/Mark Smith

smile_man
07-23-2007, 10:57 AM
1. Andrew Whiteman - Broken Social Scene / Apostle Of Hustle
2. Ronald Jones - ex Flaming Lips member
3. Ben Gibbard - Death Cab For Cutie
4. Anton Newcombe - The Brian Jonestown Massacre (Although BJM songs are terriblly simple he is a very good guitar player)
5. Victor Villareal - Owls

boyad
07-24-2007, 10:47 PM
1. Nick Valensi (The Strokes)
2. Jack White (White Stripes)
3. Gem Archer (Oasis)
4. Andy Bell (guitarist from Ride and Hurricane #1, now he plays the bass in Oasis)
3. Jamie Cook (Arctic Monkeys)

Small Print
07-27-2007, 01:10 PM
Matt Bellamy
Graham Coxon
Jonny Greenwood
Kevin Shields
Johnny Marr

UMadeMeRealise
07-27-2007, 01:13 PM
Matt Bellamy
Graham Coxon
Jonny Greenwood
Kevin Shields
Johnny Marr

Awesome list.

WyldeGibsonPlyr
07-27-2007, 01:18 PM
Fuck, at least from what I can tell, Doug Martsch only got 3 or 4 mentions. :(

Other than Doug, all I really need are Cline and Tweedy.

UMadeMeRealise
07-27-2007, 01:53 PM
Fuck, at least from what I can tell, Doug Martsch only got 3 or 4 mentions. :(

Other than Doug, all I really need are Cline and Tweedy.

From what I've heard of Built to Spill, he's pretty good. But I don't think he's as well-known as some of these other artists.

WyldeGibsonPlyr
07-27-2007, 02:35 PM
From what I've heard of Built to Spill, he's pretty good. But I don't think he's as well-known as some of these other artists.

Thats true I guess. However, I absolutely :heart: Built to Spill.

somewhat_here
07-28-2007, 01:38 AM
gotta agree with victor villareal. his playing is nuuuts. i don't think i have five for a list though.

.smudged.
07-30-2007, 04:57 PM
Johnny Marr owns every indie guitarrist

YourLastAffront
07-30-2007, 06:24 PM
Johnny Marr owns every indie guitarrist
No he doesn't.

European Son
07-30-2007, 08:18 PM
I'm gonna have to rewrite my list.

1. Tom Verlaine (Television)
2. Kevin Shields (My Bloody Valentine)
3. Johnny Marr (Smiths/Modest Mouse)
4. Lou Reed (The Velvet Underground)
5. J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr)

That's more like it. :cheers:

EDIT: Rewrite again. J Macsis on fifth spot instead.

.smudged.
07-31-2007, 12:07 AM
No he doesn't.
he does actually

YourLastAffront
07-31-2007, 05:49 AM
he does actually
Nope.

UMadeMeRealise
07-31-2007, 12:05 PM
Nope.

I agree. Johnny's very good but Kevin Shields is much better.

Abe
07-31-2007, 02:18 PM
Wow, two indie kids who really know how to back up their opinions in one thread. It must be ****ing Christmas. :haha

YourLastAffront
07-31-2007, 03:06 PM
Wow, two indie kids who really know how to back up their opinions in one thread. It must be ****ing Christmas. :haha
Hahahaha yes quite!...........

You fucking idiot.

Abe
07-31-2007, 05:41 PM
Wahey!

Way to go and fall into the box where I keep people who throw meaningless insults amd judgements at anyone who makes one jokey comment.

I've got one person in there now....time to find another.

Robert Cray
07-31-2007, 06:05 PM
Dean DeLeo from Stone Temple Pilots is pretty good

YourLastAffront
07-31-2007, 06:07 PM
It was sarky not jokey, there's a distinct difference. Mainly due to the fact that it wasn't funny.

Abe
07-31-2007, 06:25 PM
Okay okay, whatever, I'm not really here to entertain anyway. But I'm no ****ing idiot.

xX*Zeppelin*Xx
07-31-2007, 06:30 PM
These are the five guitarists that have influenced my playing the most

J Mascis
Kevin Shields/Bilinda Butcher
Johnny Marr

and...

Bob Mould
Nick Drake

...if they count.

WyldeGibsonPlyr
07-31-2007, 11:00 PM
I still say..

1. Doug Martsch
2. Doug Martsch
3. Doug Martsch
4. Doug Martsch
5. Doug Martsch

;)

pumpkins_rule
08-01-2007, 12:11 AM
I agree. Johnny's very good but Kevin Shields is much better.

How can you compare them? I mean Kevin Shields isn't technical but he's ridiculously creative whereas Johnny Marr is a master of chords and is technically incredibly gifted. They're too different to compare IMO.

UMadeMeRealise
08-01-2007, 12:22 AM
How can you compare them? I mean Kevin Shields isn't technical but he's ridiculously creative whereas Johnny Marr is a master of chords and is technically incredibly gifted. They're too different to compare IMO.

Well, of course they're very different, but I prefer listening to MBV. Johnny isn't as experimental/noisy as I would like, which is the main way I rank guitarists. But I have a healthy respect for his playing.

varnen
08-01-2007, 09:01 PM
1 kurt cobain
2 billy corgan
3 peter buck
4 jack white
5 me (no, not really)

chillininfl
08-02-2007, 06:04 PM
Isaac Brock is a ****ing beast.

gallagher2006
08-02-2007, 06:47 PM
Hm...

1] Gem Archer - Oasis (He added so much lead guitar parts to the 3 chord things Nel usually throws out)
2] Bernard Sumner - Joy Division
3] Jonny Greenwood - Radiohead
4] That lead guy from Sonic Youth
5] Lou Reed - The Velvet Underground

Robert Cray
08-03-2007, 02:49 PM
i'd have to say
1) Vernon Reid (Living Colour)
2) Spiral Stairs (Pavement)
3) Dean DeLeo (Stone Temple Pilots)
4) Bob Stinson (The Replacements)
5) Jerry Cantrell (Alice in Chains)
not in any order though

somewhat_here
08-04-2007, 01:51 AM
^i heard malkmus was bashing spiral stairs for getting a lot of undeserved credit and how malkmus was the one who wrote most of the lead parts. i think he said this around the brighten the corners sessions, but then again it was on wiki...still quite believable though.

YourLastAffront
08-04-2007, 07:31 AM
I doubt it, Spiral hardly played lead and there's only a few songs he's credited with writing, one of which is Kennel District, probably the best song on Wowee Zowee.

SupImJimmy
08-04-2007, 11:46 AM
I doubt it, Spiral hardly played lead and there's only a few songs he's credited with writing, one of which is Kennel District, probably the best song on Wowee Zowee.
Yeah, I have a bunch of videos from Pavement shows on my computer here and Spiral basically plays major and minor chords for every song, ever. He took one solo in the five shows I have and it was basically the pentatonic box. Though I respect his songwriting, not the greatest guitarist.

Malkmus, on the other hand...

Robert Cray
08-04-2007, 11:21 PM
Yeah, I guess you guys are right. I was under the impression Spiral wrote most of the riffs/chord changes but now that I think of it, it makes sense. I know that Malkmus does most of the solos, I just always thought spiral wrote the catchy stuff.

somewhat_here
08-05-2007, 01:54 AM
I doubt it, Spiral hardly played lead and there's only a few songs he's credited with writing, one of which is Kennel District, probably the best song on Wowee Zowee.

i don't like that version. i like the one with the "ooh's" in it which i think is on the cr, cr reissue.

YourLastAffront
08-05-2007, 05:45 AM
i don't like that version. i like the one with the "ooh's" in it which i think is on the cr, cr reissue.
Yeah that version's a lot better, but still.

Kankuro
08-07-2007, 11:15 PM
Jimmy Shaw - Metric
Jack White - White Stripes
Albert Hammond Jr. - Strokes and Solo
Kele Okereke - Bloc Party

MinusObsession
08-08-2007, 10:08 AM
Dave Knudsen is the lead guitarist for Minus the Bear.
Jake Snider is the other guitarist and he also sings.

Their chemistry -- along with Dave's creativity -- is what makes them so good.

RHCP94
08-08-2007, 05:13 PM
1. Thursten Moore/Lee Ranaldo
2. Jack White
3. Billy Corgan
4. Johhny Marr
5. Johnny Greenwood

MoonBoots432
08-08-2007, 11:29 PM
Isaac Brock - Modest Mouse
Jack White - The White Stripes/The Raconteurs
Nick Valensi - The Strokes
Thurston Moore - Sonic Youth
J Mascis - Dinosaur Jr

Hands down.

Kankuro
08-09-2007, 01:57 AM
^ J Mascis is a beast.

sentrax00
08-09-2007, 03:59 PM
In no particular order:

Alex Turner - Arctic Monkeys
Tom DeLonge - Angels And Airwaves
Matt Bellamy - Muse
Jack White - The White Stripes
Noel Gallagher - Oasis

Just my opinion
There are too many to pick just 5

uhh_me?
08-09-2007, 04:02 PM
oh boy...

YourLastAffront
08-09-2007, 07:12 PM
oh boy...
Haha, my sentiments entirely.

UMadeMeRealise
08-10-2007, 12:18 AM
In no particular order:

Alex Turner - Arctic Monkeys
Tom DeLonge - Angels And Airwaves
Matt Bellamy - Muse
Jack White - The White Stripes
Noel Gallagher - Oasis

Just my opinion
There are too many to pick just 5

I'll try and put this very delicately: none of those guitarists belong in this sub-forum. With the possible exception of Noel Gallagher, those are all Modern Rock guitarists. And by the way, Angels and Airwaves are dreadful. Get blink-182's self-titled record to see what Tom can really do.

YourLastAffront
08-11-2007, 09:01 AM
I'll try and put this very delicately: none of those guitarists belong in this sub-forum. With the possible exception of Noel Gallagher, those are all Modern Rock guitarists. And by the way, Angels and Airwaves are dreadful. Get blink-182's self-titled record to see what Tom can really do.Another recruit for my campaign to purge the **** and ****s out of the forum!

perry589
08-12-2007, 09:21 PM
Thurston Moore - Sonic Youth
J Mascis - Dinosaur Jr
Billy Corgan- Smashing Pumpkins
Joey Santiago- The Pixies
Johnny Marr- The Smiths

eelpieandmash
08-14-2007, 05:56 AM
johnny marr - the smiths
kele okereke - bloc party
graham coxon - blur
johnny greenwood - radiohead
Joey Santiago - the pixies

uhh_me?
08-16-2007, 10:30 AM
so looking back i decided my list sucks...i don't feel like coming up with a new one right now though, i'd only keep thurston and j on it


anyway, it would probably just change again...

WyldeGibsonPlyr
08-16-2007, 01:56 PM
^I think the real question is would Doug Martsch be on that list or not?

uhh_me?
08-16-2007, 01:58 PM
he could be, at this moment probably he would be

Bidinski
08-16-2007, 02:44 PM
In order:
1. Jack White
2. Johnny Marr
3. Matt Bellamy
4. Brace Paine
5. Ryan Ross

...Billy Corgan just missed out

dinosaur sr
08-17-2007, 11:58 AM
1. Johnny Marr
2. Bernard Sumner
3. J Mascis
4. Andy Summers



I dont know too many other indie guitarists though...


it depends what you think of as indie

Lateralus17
08-17-2007, 12:25 PM
johnny marr - the smiths
kele okereke - bloc party
graham coxon - blur
johnny greenwood - radiohead
Joey Santiago - the pixies

Surely Russell Lissack should be on there instead of Kele? He is the lead guitarist.

YourLastAffront
08-17-2007, 12:36 PM
Surely Russell Lissack should be on there instead of Kele? He is the lead guitarist.Neither should be, seen as Bloc Party aren't an indie band.

UMadeMeRealise
08-17-2007, 12:44 PM
Neither should be, seen as Bloc Party aren't an indie band.

Thank you. I don't know where people get their notions of indie from. But Bloc Party is surely closer to it than Angels and Airwaves.

European Son
08-17-2007, 01:03 PM
Thank you. I don't know where people get their notions of indie from. But Bloc Party is surely closer to it than Angels and Airwaves.
Meh, I don't see why you need to be so meticulous about it? Sure, Angels and Airwaves is one thing, but Bloch Party are after all occassionally discussed in this sub-forum and it's not like their sound is that diffrent from indie (whatever that is nowadays).

Monkeygone2hvn
08-17-2007, 05:49 PM
eh dont worry about YourLastAffront is just an elitist indie snob with nothing better to do with his time than to make fun of people for not having the same views as him.

YourLastAffront
08-17-2007, 05:58 PM
eh dont worry about YourLastAffront is just an elitist indie snob with nothing better to do with his time than to make fun of people for not having the same views as him.
And you're a douche who stands for nothing.

European Son
08-17-2007, 06:00 PM
I know. Sometimes I just feel like objecting, even though it's totally meaningless in YourLastAffront's presence. :p:

WyldeGibsonPlyr
08-18-2007, 01:28 AM
he could be, at this moment probably he would be

I think thats the best news I've heard all week.

:golfclap:

paintITblack39
08-18-2007, 08:54 AM
I still say..

1. Doug Martsch
2. Doug Martsch
3. Doug Martsch
4. Doug Martsch
5. Doug Martsch

;)
Yeah well, I say:
1. Dylon
2. Dylon
3. Dylon
4. Dylon
5. Dylon

Because he spits hot fire. :angry:

DownInAHole.
08-18-2007, 10:18 AM
^ Chapelle's Show FTW!

Robert Cray
08-18-2007, 03:16 PM
Greg Sage is incredible (Wipers)

jamiec
08-18-2007, 05:32 PM
1. larry lalnode-Primus
2. rogers stevens-Blind Melon
3. Christopher thorn-Blind Melon
4. adam jones-Tool
5. Billy corgan

Ghost_Knive
08-18-2007, 05:39 PM
1.) Ben Gibbard (Death Cab for Cutie, Postal Service.) <-People forget him?
2.)Alex Kopranos (Franz Ferdinand.)
3.)Alex Turner (Arctic Monkeys.)
4.)Brit Daniel (Spoon.)
5.) Johhny Marr (The Smiths, Modest Mouse.)

Honorable mention to Noel Gallagher though. He would make my top 7.

YourLastAffront
08-18-2007, 06:00 PM
2.)Alex Kopranos (Franz Ferdinand.)
3.)Alex Turner (Arctic Monkeys.)
:no:

Ghost_Knive
08-18-2007, 06:11 PM
What?
They play guitar.
And I believe them to be amazing.

YourLastAffront
08-18-2007, 06:13 PM
Fair enough but they belong in the Modern Rock forum.

European Son
08-18-2007, 06:14 PM
I saw that list and I thought to myself "Hmpf, here we go again...".

Ghost_Knive
08-18-2007, 06:17 PM
Wow, man.
Franz Ferdinand was a spearhead indie band...
I can't believe you.
I can't.

Turner? Arctic Monkeys are indie. Errmm
Can't believe it.

uhh_me?
08-18-2007, 06:24 PM
don't bother arguing it will get you no where, i'm just looking out for you although i doubt the indieness of both bands you mentioned

YourLastAffront
08-18-2007, 06:27 PM
Wow, man.
Franz Ferdinand was a spearhead indie band...
I can't believe you.
I can't.

Turner? Arctic Monkeys are indie. Errmm
Can't believe it.
HAHAHAAHAH SPEARHEAD? You need to seriously learn what indie is. Neither band are indie, they're modern rock.

I know I'm being my usual self and standing for what I know is right, but seriously, Franz Ferdinand, Spearhead? You guys must be taking issue with some of this.

European Son
08-18-2007, 06:31 PM
don't bother arguing it will get you no where, i'm just looking out for you although i doubt the indieness of both bands you mentioned
Listen to uhh_me?.

uhh_me?
08-18-2007, 06:31 PM
i just rolled my eyes at it
f anything franz ferdinand was spearheading brit pop 2.0

aetherspear
08-18-2007, 06:39 PM
as far as one's i like i would say (in no order)(donno if you'd consider all these indie/alt)

Doug Martsch
Isaac Brock (pre Moon and antarctica)
Guy from Minus the Bear
Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Kasper Eistrup

Ghost_Knive
08-18-2007, 06:57 PM
Read wikipedia man
and stop being so self-righteous please.

Quote right from wikipedia:
"The recent indie revival (roughly (2002-present) was spear-headed by bands such as The Libertines, but received mainstream appeal with bands such as Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys,"

Arctic Monkeys started by giving out free CD's and putting songs on the internet for download. I have, and can find if you want to, videos of various British medias saying they're indie. There was an article in TIME magazine that said they were indie.

Do I need to go on about Kopranos?

YourLastAffront
08-18-2007, 07:03 PM
Read wikipedia man
and stop being so self-righteous please.

Quote right from wikipedia:
"The recent indie revival (roughly (2002-present) was spear-headed by bands such as The Libertines, but received mainstream appeal with bands such as Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys,"

Arctic Monkeys started by giving out free CD's and putting songs on the internet for download. I have, and can find if you want to, videos of various British medias saying they're indie. There was an article in TIME magazine that said they were indie.

Do I need to go on about Kopranos?
I don't give a shit, they're not indie, why is it that you're so desperate to be labeled indie? Wikipedia is frequently wrong regarding musical matters.

Ghost_Knive
08-18-2007, 07:08 PM
I'm not. Why are you so desperate for them not to be?
I agree, wikipedia is wrong a lot.
But Time magazine, and British media.

Anyways I think this is over.

uhh_me?
08-18-2007, 07:10 PM
Do I need to go on about Kopranos?
can i say that the indiest thing he has done is probably eleanor friedberger?

YourLastAffront
08-18-2007, 07:15 PM
can i say that the indiest thing he has done is probably eleanor friedberger?
Yet another reason to hate him.

uhh_me?
08-18-2007, 07:17 PM
someone a little jealous?

UMadeMeRealise
08-18-2007, 07:18 PM
I like Franz Ferdinand, though they are probably closer to Modern Rock than Indie (whatever that signifies nowadays).

European Son
08-18-2007, 07:22 PM
I like Franz Ferdinand, though they are probably closer to Modern Rock than Indie (whatever that signifies nowadays).
I've said it before; Indie is as dead as Hitler. But that's just my opinion.

YourLastAffront
08-18-2007, 07:22 PM
someone a little jealous?
Just a little.

UMadeMeRealise
08-18-2007, 07:23 PM
Just a little.

You are admirably honest.

Ghost_Knive
08-18-2007, 07:24 PM
-shakes head-
Any reason for the hate of Alex Kopranos?

European Son
08-18-2007, 07:30 PM
-shakes head-
Any reason for the hate of Alex Kopranos?
I don't hold anything against him. He's made some good catchy tunes.

The only reason for me to hate him would be that he didn't put 'Wine In The Afternoon' on YCHISMB.

Phillipa C.
08-18-2007, 11:20 PM
How is it that Johnny Marr is an 'indie' guitarist? The Smiths were signed to a major; all of their song's went to the top of the charts; they performed / mimed all of their singles on Top Of The Pops. There was nothing independant about them. They were a pop band.

He was a great guitarist though, no doubt.

YourLastAffront
08-19-2007, 06:23 AM
How is it that Johnny Marr is an 'indie' guitarist? The Smiths were signed to a major; all of their song's went to the top of the charts; they performed / mimed all of their singles on Top Of The Pops. There was nothing independant about them. They were a pop band.

He was a great guitarist though, no doubt.
They made no bones about the fact that they HAD to mime though, hence Morrissey holding a bunch of gladioli and not a microphone.

Ghost_Knive
08-19-2007, 08:29 AM
Forgetting Johny Marr plays in Modest Mouse?

European Son
08-19-2007, 08:33 AM
They were more important to the "indie sound" than to the whole indie ethics thing, in my opinion. And he plays in Modest Mouse, so that more or less makes him a indie guitarist, anyway, I guess. Not that he wasn't before Modest Mouse, but you know what I mean. It doesn't really matter from what aspect you look at it. He's an indie guitarist either way.

YourLastAffront
08-19-2007, 09:04 AM
Forgetting Johny Marr plays in Modest Mouse?
I tried to erase that fact from my memory, I've never forgiven him for doing that.

paintITblack39
08-19-2007, 09:52 AM
^ Chapelle's Show FTW!
Haha, yeah, seriously :).

And Franz Ferdinand and Arctic Monkey is something I call wannabe-indie.

They try to do the sound, but it isn't there. There's nothing unique about them that separates their music from all the other music.

Fugazirancid
08-19-2007, 12:32 PM
can i say that the indiest thing he has done is probably eleanor friedberger?

i know i'm late, but i lol'd

and the snobbery here is annoying me. it's all opinion, and we seem to be forgetting the "alt" to "alt/indie."


whatever.

Ghost_Knive
08-19-2007, 02:15 PM
And Franz Ferdinand and Arctic Monkey is something I call wannabe-indie.


Well its what the British media and Time magazine is calling, indie.
The sound is there, and they're not making it up.

Ghost_Knive
08-19-2007, 02:24 PM
Wow I forgot all about Ace Enders.
Another great one.

UMadeMeRealise
08-19-2007, 03:07 PM
Well its what the British media and Time magazine is calling, indie.
The sound is there, and they're not making it up.

I hate to join in this, but the British media and Time magazine don't have **** to do with indie. My 2c.

Ghost_Knive
08-19-2007, 03:38 PM
Ok... but they got there info from somewhere.
Can we discuss guitarists now? I mean categorizing something is very hard to do when there is no set standards. So its more of an opinion kind of thing.

I see what everyone is saying and I consider it, but I don't think we will come to a conclusion.
But if we want to keep arguing over the classification I'm up for it.

UMadeMeRealise
08-19-2007, 03:40 PM
Well, that's fair. Anyway, Franz Ferdinand are pretty good, but I think the Arctic Monkeys are a bit generic.

European Son
08-19-2007, 04:00 PM
Well, that's fair. Anyway, Franz Ferdinand are pretty good, but I think the Arctic Monkeys are a bit generic.
Yeah, they are, I guess. But I love them nonetheless. I don't know if it happened before AM got big in the UK or if it was that way before them, but a lot of UK bands just seem to do the exact same thing that AM are doing. That local-dialect-catchy-guitar-riffs-pop-kinda thing. I don't understand why, though. It's not really that fascinating, even less so when you don't have a talented lyricist (which is what AM have in Alex Turner). Aerctic Monkeys make fun, catchy music, though.