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slippy456
12-29-2005, 10:49 AM
okay i put this here because it ends in "core" heres the deal: my freind and i have been debating recently on what is really "Grindcore" my friend says grindcore is bands like The Number 12 looks like you and Daughters while I say bands like Cannibal Corpse and Napalm Death. So are his bands like a new age grindcore or are they at all or am I a retard?

Yeah Dude
12-29-2005, 11:06 AM
Cannibal Corpse = death/gore metal
Napalm Death = early stuff = grindcore, newer stuff = death/grind

The Nameless666
12-29-2005, 12:57 PM
yah im pretty sure cannibal corpse is more death metal

pmeg568c
12-29-2005, 01:19 PM
grindcore is like, converge

emokid182
12-29-2005, 01:49 PM
i wouldn't necessarly call converge grindcore, there a mix of alot of stuff. but when i think of grind core I think of napalm death. but no i wouldn't call btbam or number 12 grindcore at all. But maybe the genre is expanding the way the term hardcore expanded so that as i lay dying is now considered hardcore.

noops
12-29-2005, 01:57 PM
converge number 12 looks like you are metalcore.

pig destroyer discordance axis **** im dead are grindcore bands.

panzram420
12-29-2005, 02:31 PM
grindcore is like ed gein and pig destroyer both relle good bands.

XMeatHookMartyX
12-29-2005, 06:19 PM
Napalm Death is more like crust.

LedZeppelin
12-29-2005, 07:04 PM
Napalm Death: Old was straight-up grind, newer is death/grind
Cannibal Corpse: Death metal
Number 12: Technically "chaos-core" if you really wanna get into obscure genre classifications that don't really exist, but they're grind/metalcore.

GATORSMASH
12-29-2005, 08:31 PM
charles bronson
and
pig destroyer

zeldar
12-29-2005, 09:08 PM
converge number 12 looks like you are metalcore.

pig destroyer discordance axis **** im dead are grindcore bands.

number 12 is definately not metalcore, you are a retard

the tony danza tap dance extravaganza is grindcore also

somepunkkid
12-31-2005, 02:22 PM
Yes Yes Napalm Death was the ORIGINAL grindcore band... it was also originally a power trio, with influences in punk.

martyr
12-31-2005, 05:14 PM
number 12 is definately not metalcore, you are a retard

the tony danza tap dance extravaganza is grindcore also

noops > you








numbertwelve sort of blurs the line between metalcore and math/spazz stuff.

Cadd99
12-31-2005, 05:25 PM
Grindcore is bands like The Sawtooth Grin, An Albatross and Combatwoundedveteran.

Yahz0r
01-02-2006, 12:21 PM
Grindcore: Nasum, Regurgitate

radio_schizo
01-02-2006, 01:09 PM
There's the original, more crusty grindcore like early-Napalm Death, Terrorizer, Repulsion, Assuck etc.

Then you get later stuff like Discordance Axis, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Pig Destroyer etc.

...Cannibal Corpse=death metal.

Davidian
01-02-2006, 05:00 PM
Are you all fucking noobs?

Why has nobody mentioned bezeker yet they are the perfect example for grindcore.

bloodstained
01-02-2006, 06:36 PM
Are you all fucking noobs?

Why has nobody mentioned bezeker yet they are the perfect example for grindcore.

Cause we're all noobs.

Paint
01-02-2006, 10:36 PM
daughters and the locust

shai_savant
01-02-2006, 10:43 PM
There's the original, more crusty grindcore like early-Napalm Death, Terrorizer, Repulsion, Assuck etc.

Then you get later stuff like Discordance Axis, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Pig Destroyer etc.

...Cannibal Corpse=death metal.
+Hewhocorrupts, Tower of Rome

CHICAGO

FromADyingFetus
01-06-2006, 11:46 PM
Rompeprop, Pig Destroyer, Bile, Cliteater...

TI_Bryan
01-06-2006, 11:49 PM
Are you all fucking noobs?

Why has nobody mentioned bezeker yet they are the perfect example for grindcore.
because they're insano-fast and don't really sound like any other band, related to grindcore.


a good solid example of Grind=Nasum

LoudnSnotty138
01-07-2006, 12:10 AM
charles bronson
and
pig destroyer
pig destroyer yeah but charles bronson is power violence.

HairierThanPwn
01-07-2006, 06:31 AM
+Hewhocorrupts, Tower of Rome

CHICAGO

Tower of rome is amazing live.


check out SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY!

For sure.

Http://www.myspace.com/seeyounexttuesday

XMeatHookMartyX
01-07-2006, 03:17 PM
Lymphotic Phlgem (Sp)
Regurgitate
Rotten Sound

XMeatHookMartyX
01-07-2006, 04:06 PM
Tower of rome is amazing live.

For sure.

Http://www.myspace.com/seeyounexttuesday

That band is definately not very good.

.Moneen.
01-08-2006, 10:52 PM
Fav Grindcore is Ed Gein. Its A Shame... was amazing IMO.

shai_savant
01-09-2006, 12:18 AM
Tower of rome is amazing live.


check out SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY!

For sure.

Http://www.myspace.com/seeyounexttuesday
hey did you get to the hewhocorrupts show where they got shafted and didn't get to play

stealth_penguin
01-09-2006, 12:40 AM
Cripple Bastards are grindcore.

LACESOUTFOREST
01-16-2006, 12:25 PM
i still think daughters is grindcore

Craigo
01-22-2006, 03:30 AM
converge number 12 looks like you are metalcore.

pig destroyer discordance axis **** im dead are grindcore bands.

Ever heard of mathcore? Mathcore is a term for mellowed down grindcore basicly. Like Dillinger Escape Plan, Sikth, Between The Buried And me... And I actually perfer that to most grindcore.

J Lock
01-23-2006, 12:24 AM
ED GEIN!!!
As the Sun Sets!!!
Chainsaw toothgrin.
Delicious.

mitchillionaire
12-03-2006, 07:52 PM
To be fair.
Napalm death yer they started it all.
but to todays standards of death growls, blast beats and all this other shit they suck now

ALSO

job for a cowboy,
canibal corpse,
no. 12 looks like you
suicide silence.
WECAMEWITHBROKENTEETH
pencil lead syringe.

all grindcore.
not heard them?
look em up yo

na10tbolt
12-03-2006, 08:08 PM
Berzerker pwn.

or this www.myspace.com/fetuscannon

metal Lover
12-03-2006, 08:33 PM
Tower of rome is amazing live.


check out SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY!

For sure.

Http://www.myspace.com/seeyounexttuesday
Dude I've met those guys!

XMeatHookMartyX
12-03-2006, 08:41 PM
Dude I've met those guys!

ZOMG! NO ****ING WAY!!!
Did you get their autograph? lolz.

kaktusnpoop
12-03-2006, 09:10 PM
This thread embarasses me

StuartR
12-03-2006, 09:27 PM
Math is more intense than Grind most of the time. Grind is just punk played really fast and Naplam Death didn't start it.

To be fair.
Napalm death yer they started it all.
but to todays standards of death growls, blast beats and all this other shit they suck now

ALSO

job for a cowboy,
canibal corpse,
no. 12 looks like you
suicide silence.
WECAMEWITHBROKENTEETH
pencil lead syringe.

all grindcore.
not heard them?
look em up yo

No.

i still think daughters is grindcore

You're still wrong then.

technicolour
12-03-2006, 10:35 PM
All of those have some grind influence, some more than others. Personally I consider #12 to be grind, but catchy newer grind, and bands like Daughters, and See you next tuesday are what I hear called "scene grind".

Napalm death, Cattle decap, Circle of dead children are more death influecened, and not so much "core" influenced. That's how I see it anyways.

technicolour
12-03-2006, 10:37 PM
Lymphotic Phlgem (Sp)
Regurgitate
Rotten Sound

I love the song waging war on benevolence :)

EDIT - Phobia are a pretty good grind band as well.

JohnHxC615
12-04-2006, 12:14 AM
Pig Destroyer :cheers:

na10tbolt
12-04-2006, 12:55 AM
This thread embarasses me

why because we screwed up the genres or because the music sucks?

kaktusnpoop
12-04-2006, 12:58 AM
why because we screwed up the genres or because the music sucks?

both

StuartR
12-04-2006, 04:02 AM
Naplam Death we're hardcore before they got faster, I can't see how more hardcore influenced you can be. Much more so than any of those other bands. From what I've heard, and that's quite a bit, #12 share nothing in common with grindcore, apart from fast guitars and growling.

XstygX
12-04-2006, 11:30 PM
The Number 12 is Mathcore

Grindcore is stuff like Terminaly Your Aborted Ghost

SilentSpectacle
12-05-2006, 03:43 AM
The grindcore I have in my iTunes:

All Hands On Deck
Bodies In The Gears Of The Apparatus
Cattle Decapitation (don't bother trying to tell me they're death metal)
Circle Of Dead Children
Destroyer Destroyer
Ed Gein
Flesh And Blood Robot
Graf Orlock
The Great Redneck Hope
Ion Dissonance
Me And Him All It Us
Nothing Dared, Nothing Gained
Paria
Pope Benedict
Psyopus
The Sawtooth Grin
See You Next Tuesday
Stand Before The Firing Squad
Test Switch Isolater
Textbook Traitors
The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza
Triumph Of Gnomes
Tunes For Bears To Dance To
Twodeadsluts Onegood****
Usurp Synpase

Nelshizzle
12-05-2006, 06:03 AM
Brain Drill and Cattle Decapitation are my personal favorites.

STABxYOU
12-05-2006, 09:20 AM
Grindcore and similar bands off the top of my head (broken into subgenres)

Grindcore/Crustcore/Crust Punk
Nasum
(early) Napalm Death
Autopsy
Swallowing Shit
The Murdersquad (T.O)
Always Die Fighting
Pig Destroyer
Massgrav
Scrotum Grinder
AxCx


Emogrind/Emoviolence/Screamo(traditional sense)/Hardcore Emo/Emo
Hassan I Sabbah
Usurp Synapse
Jerome's Dream
Orchid
Mohinder
Love Lost But Not Forgotten
Ampere
Murder/Suicide Pact

Powerviolence/Thrashcore/Spazzcore
Combat Wounded Veteran
Charles Bronson
Capitalist Casualties
Spazz
Bucket Full Of Teeth
Behead The Prophet, No Lord Shall Live
Reversal of Man
Man Is The Bastard

Deathgrind/Pornogrind/Goregrind
C**k And Ball Torture
F**k... I'm Dead
Cattle Decapitation
Cephalic Carnage
Mortician

eGrind/Digigrind
The Berzerker
Dataclast
Agoraphobic Nosebleed

NOT Grind
Daughters
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Converge
Bad Luck 13 Riot Extravaganza
(most importantly) Cannibal Corpse or any other lame-ass metal band

Disco Vietnam
12-05-2006, 04:58 PM
Grindcore and similar bands off the top of my head (broken into subgenres)

Grindcore/Crustcore/Crust Punk
Nasum
(early) Napalm Death
Autopsy
Swallowing Shit
The Murdersquad (T.O)
Always Die Fighting
Pig Destroyer
Massgrav
Scrotum Grinder
AxCx


Emogrind/Emoviolence/Screamo(traditional sense)/Hardcore Emo/Emo
Hassan I Sabbah
Usurp Synapse
Jerome's Dream
Orchid
Mohinder
Love Lost But Not Forgotten
Ampere
Murder/Suicide Pact

Powerviolence/Thrashcore/Spazzcore
Combat Wounded Veteran
Charles Bronson
Capitalist Casualties
Spazz
Bucket Full Of Teeth
Behead The Prophet, No Lord Shall Live
Reversal of Man
Man Is The Bastard

Deathgrind/Pornogrind/Goregrind
C**k And Ball Torture
F**k... I'm Dead
Cattle Decapitation
Cephalic Carnage
Mortician

eGrind/Digigrind
The Berzerker
Dataclast
Agoraphobic Nosebleed

NOT Grind
Daughters
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Converge
Bad Luck 13 Riot Extravaganza
(most importantly) Cannibal Corpse or any other lame-ass metal band

Marry Me!

before
12-05-2006, 06:06 PM
I don't know much about genre classification, but I'm wondering if 'As The Sun Sets' is considered grindcore. I always thought they were but I don't see them anywhere on the list.

kaktusnpoop
12-05-2006, 07:45 PM
I don't know much about genre classification, but I'm wondering if 'As The Sun Sets' is considered grindcore. I always thought they were but I don't see them anywhere on the list.

I consider As the Sun Sets grindocre

but the Daughters are NOT grindcore

STABxYOU
12-06-2006, 06:59 AM
Marry Me!

I take it you liked my first post?

http://assets.jolt.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/fluffle.gif

STABxYOU
12-06-2006, 07:02 AM
I consider As the Sun Sets grindocre

but the Daughters are NOT grindcore

Daughters are a mathcore band.

The Daughters... well, I can't say I've heard of The Daughters. ;)

Disco Vietnam
12-06-2006, 07:38 AM
I take it you liked my first post?

http://assets.jolt.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/fluffle.gif

Yes indeedy.

kaktusnpoop
12-06-2006, 12:00 PM
Daughters are a mathcore band.

The Daughters... well, I can't say I've heard of The Daughters. ;)


hahahaha

don't make me slap you

Craigo
12-06-2006, 01:26 PM
Math is more intense than Grind most of the time. Grind is just punk played really fast and Naplam Death didn't start it.

Depends what kinda grind is being played.

Robinson, ****ing intense.
Circle Of Dead Children meet your point though.

Craigo
12-06-2006, 01:28 PM
I take it you liked my first post?

http://assets.jolt.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/fluffle.gif

'twas legendary bro.

Now if only more people understood mathcore/noisecore...

STABxYOU
12-06-2006, 01:43 PM
'twas legendary bro.

Now if only more people understood mathcore/noisecore...

By the time most people do, they'll be dead.

StuartR
12-06-2006, 05:41 PM
But Noisecore is not Mathcore...

Noisecore is just literally noise with a (punk, rock) band set-up. A lot of random guitars, drumming & shouting, screaming and/or grownling.

XMeatHookMartyX
12-06-2006, 05:55 PM
Mad props to STABxYOU

technicolour
12-06-2006, 08:27 PM
Melt banana :D

lawl

EDIT - not saying they're grindcore, just funny.

STABxYOU
12-07-2006, 07:25 AM
Noisecore is what happens when hardcore bands play noise rock. (Or when noise rock bands play hardcore.)

Mathcore is hardcore that uses unusual time signatures.

There's no reason a band can't be both, but it doesn't mean the tags can be applied to all bands within either style.

As for Melt Banana, not grindcore.

Craigo
12-07-2006, 08:20 AM
By the time most people do, they'll be dead.

True true.

Or they can go to the genre dictionary thread for a good explaination and list of mathcore bands.

*HINT HINT*

STABxYOU
12-07-2006, 09:52 AM
I think we need to start explaining kittenviolence.

kaktusnpoop
12-07-2006, 12:12 PM
Melt Banana may not be grindcore, but they ****ing rule!

killinyourkind
12-07-2006, 07:39 PM
band that defines gridcore down the bone is robinson check em out
www.myspace.com/robinson

SilentSpectacle
12-07-2006, 11:50 PM
band that defines gridcore down the bone is robinson check em out
www.myspace.com/robinson

Wrong.
Good band, and lots of people consider them grindcore, but it's not a good definition.

XMeatHookMartyX
12-08-2006, 12:01 AM
band that defines gridcore down the bone is robinson check em out
www.myspace.com/robinson
Erroneous!

kaktusnpoop
12-08-2006, 12:38 AM
band that defines gridcore down the bone is robinson check em out
www.myspace.com/robinson


def NOT grindcore

killinyourkind
12-09-2006, 04:18 PM
then give a band that is a good definition of grindcore and ill listen to them

mr.joopy987
12-09-2006, 04:59 PM
then give a band that is a good definition of grindcore and ill listen to them
Nasum, Pig Destroyer

laxcountry07
12-09-2006, 07:55 PM
Erroneous!


haha


erroneous

123 Extol
12-09-2006, 11:26 PM
Has anyone brought up Brutal Truth yet?

Horvat
12-09-2006, 11:29 PM
Anal Blast.

kaktusnpoop
12-10-2006, 01:21 AM
Has anyone brought up Brutal Truth yet?

band rules

STABxYOU
12-10-2006, 04:06 AM
Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Hellnation.

Oh, how can I forget, Swallowing Shit.

EDIT: Hmm, I really thought I posted this in a different thread... =/

YouSmellExcited
12-10-2006, 04:05 PM
Old Napalm, grind.
Cannibal Corpse, Death Metal, most definately.
Daughters, they have grind influences, but are not grind.

AcidBath443
12-10-2006, 11:34 PM
Has anyone brought up Brutal Truth yet?

No but they should have. One of my favorites. Along with Nasum and Discordance Axis.

I also like some more death metal influence stuff like Exhumed or Cattle Decap.

kaktusnpoop
12-11-2006, 12:58 AM
I never could really get into Cattle Decap, I've seen em twice, but I just never liked em

how about Leng T'che? Magurdergrind? Extreme Noise Terror? the list goes on

StuartR
12-11-2006, 04:34 AM
Extreme Noise Terror are great.

DanRev
12-11-2006, 11:31 AM
Limb from limb from limb from limb from limb from fucking limb.


Yar. Like me a bit of grind, I do. (I'm fully aware Exhumed is a bit death metallish)

Nar, Dont like me the scene "Lets scream into a mic and call it grind" grind, I dont.

slashwyldepage
12-11-2006, 03:51 PM
grindcore is like, converge



GTFO N00B!





pig destroyer is grindcore.

XMeatHookMartyX
12-11-2006, 06:59 PM
I never could really get into Cattle Decap, I've seen em twice, but I just never liked em

how about Leng T'che? Extreme Noise Terror? the list goes on

I'm beginning to luff this guy.
I like your avatar too.

kaktusnpoop
12-11-2006, 09:05 PM
I'm beginning to luff this guy.
I like your avatar too.

haha thanks man

where in az u live? I used to live in Scottsdale

XMeatHookMartyX
12-12-2006, 01:31 AM
Glendale/Phoenix.

kaktusnpoop
12-12-2006, 01:27 PM
Glendale/Phoenix.

oh I don't remember the area too well, cept I used to live off of Frank Llyod Wright Blvd but that was years ago

las7
12-13-2006, 09:26 AM
:headbang: Eternal Suffering & CoDC :headbang:

mr.joopy987
12-13-2006, 05:46 PM
Has anybody heard of Caninus?
It's grind with dogs doing vocals.
Surprisingly, it's not too bad.

DanRev
12-13-2006, 05:48 PM
Has anybody heard of Caninus?
It's grind with dogs doing vocals.
Surprisingly, it's not too bad.


Didnt they do a split with Cattle decap?


Theres another grind band with a parrot doing vox aswell.


They should really get some proper piggy squeals going aswell in some band.

SilentSpectacle
12-13-2006, 06:09 PM
Theres another grind band with a parrot doing vox aswell.




Hatebeak. They did a split with Caninus.

kaktusnpoop
12-13-2006, 06:26 PM
Has anybody heard of Caninus?
It's grind with dogs doing vocals.
Surprisingly, it's not too bad.


Band brings some good Lolzz

hxc_triple_og
12-14-2006, 02:36 PM
glass casket is grindcore like very well pure

kaktusnpoop
12-14-2006, 05:40 PM
glass casket is grindcore like very well pure


naw there like tech metal like between the buried and me and ion dissonance, etc

def not grindocre

hxckid666
12-20-2006, 07:25 PM
ummm grindcore is more like fake and allot of times doesnt even have lyrics i dont like how suicide silence is considered grindcore because they are allot better then grindcore

StuartR
12-20-2006, 08:24 PM
haha, go read something that'll tell you the truth kid.

Craigo
12-21-2006, 12:13 PM
This is really getting out of hand.

STABxYOU
12-21-2006, 01:26 PM
I got rubber hoses and a sackful of oranges, let the beatings begin?

mortiis999
12-24-2006, 10:40 AM
Nasum, Regurgitate, Rotten Sound, Haemorrhage, Carcass, ENT, Naplam Death.

THAT is grindcore. Not JFaC, that is basically metalcore.

not number13lookslikeyou, or wecamewithbrokenteeth. Some of that stuff is more like screamo in my opinion. Well what ever, not grind, it's what the floppy fringed contingent mistake for gind.