Al di Meola shredder or not???


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Layne_cantrell
01-31-2006, 06:45 AM
Im new to the shredder board because I'm not really a shredder so don't flame for a lame question :D However, I am curious as to whether Al Di meola is considered a shredder. Listen to Mediterranean Sundance on Friday night at san francisco and you will hear some incredibly fast playing. I'm just wondering if it counts as shred if it's acoustic and not really rock? I tried to learn it and even the intro which is a rhythm part is goddamn hard to play. Quick as hell.

Erc
01-31-2006, 06:47 AM
Yea he is a shredder...but he's better then a shredder.

He's awesome.

Layne_cantrell
01-31-2006, 06:50 AM
thanks for clearing that up :) and yeah he is better than just a shredder.

Angus Malmsteen
01-31-2006, 06:52 AM
I've heard Michael Angelo Batio say so.

pavan
01-31-2006, 07:36 AM
He transcends all these "shredder" definitions. He can rip it up whenever he wants to.
And his 13 year old daughter is a major Eminem fan

~1954~
01-31-2006, 10:23 AM
In terms of speed, i think he can be considered a shredder, hes up there with some of the fastest players of all time. but musically i think hes much more than just a shredder because of his knowledge of musical theory. his written some pretty good chordal paterns in the Classical style.
And i can play some of mediteranean sundance, although im not sure i can be bothered to learn all of Als lead parts, i prefer to improvise.

Evil_Empire24-7
01-31-2006, 11:17 AM
he's the one responsible for the shred movement not yngwie malmsteen.

so yeah he is a goddamn shredder and a genius.

Race With Devil On Spanish Highway \ 4 Ever

Resiliance
01-31-2006, 11:20 AM
^No one is responsible for the shred movement.

And yes, I'd say he is.

I also wasn't aware shredders had a set skill level so it can be transcended, but that's just me I guess.

Evil_Empire24-7
01-31-2006, 02:40 PM
if it wasn't for holdsworth and dimeola there would be no term for (shredding)

apocalypse13
01-31-2006, 03:00 PM
Genius.

(Al di Meola)

PooKoo
01-31-2006, 03:23 PM
OMGZ guyz wut buiot paganeenini?

apocalypse13
01-31-2006, 04:06 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3644445489661495368&q=romeo+guitar

OmG LiEk in TihS vid30 Mikal Angolo Bitio Tlks @bot Pag@neenih! He pl4y5 some and he is lIek TeH ROXoRZZ! Hoever Tis Paganinieehg Guy I5 h3s like A 600D GuitarI5T!!!!!

mr_clapton
01-31-2006, 05:59 PM
um apoc....that was michael romeo maybe you should cut back on the noob talk a bit

Erc
01-31-2006, 06:17 PM
Rofl yea dude apoc...Michael Romeo and Michael Angelo = wayyy different ^_^

apocalypse13
01-31-2006, 06:26 PM
I know its Micheal Romeo!!!

DUH!!!!!!

It says "Micheal Romeo, The Guitar Chapter." :bonk:

I watched it the other day and it's amazing.

Simply a response to the noob language PooKoo used. A good one I see. Must be good to fool even the regulars!

ź├Fire¤nside╗
01-31-2006, 06:43 PM
Can someone post some Di Meola stuff?

apocalypse13
01-31-2006, 06:44 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7090390871482877555&q=di+meola


A 53 minute sampling.

:cheers:

ź├Fire¤nside╗
01-31-2006, 06:48 PM
^Yeah, thanks a ton.
:cheers:

Erc
01-31-2006, 06:51 PM
vid30 Mikal Angolo Bitio Tlks @bot Pag@neenih!

But you said michael angelo batio...or something close to it. =(...damn I suppose you are good at that noob speak.

rock_guitargod
01-31-2006, 06:51 PM
If you like Al De Meola, check at some stuff he did with Paco De Lucia and John McLaughlin, its awesome stuff, in a sense its shred on an acoustic but its actually known as Flamenco Jazz:D

ź├Fire¤nside╗
01-31-2006, 06:56 PM
^Yeah I have an album of Paco De Lucia (Sirico), but haven't heard any Mclaughlin besides a video of the 3 somewhere.

apocalypse13
01-31-2006, 07:00 PM
But you said michael angelo batio...or something close to it. =(...damn I suppose you are good at that noob speak.
:p:

That's the point. Can't you just see a noob saying that it's Micheal Angelo Batio? It's the noobs that make you think that are truly morons. Which I have succeeded in doing. ;)

rock_guitargod
01-31-2006, 07:16 PM
^Yeah I have an album of Paco De Lucia (Sirico), but haven't heard any Mclaughlin besides a video of the 3 somewhere.


there's a video of them on Google Video.....its realy good stuff glad someone else likes it :D

pavan
01-31-2006, 09:51 PM
^No one is responsible for the shred movement.

And yes, I'd say he is.

I also wasn't aware shredders had a set skill level so it can be transcended, but that's just me I guess.

I said nothing about the skill levels, I meant he was much more than just a regular shredder.

wil
02-01-2006, 05:12 AM
^^ im inclined to agree with you---ive seen footage of him where he does hardly any fast picking at all, just playing these gorgeous jazz chord in free form and it was captivating. Al elevated the technique of palm muting to an art form, his picking is flawless and his feel for melody is awesome.

I bought an album called Passion, Grace and Fire featuring Di Meola, John Mclaughlin and De lucia and its incredible.

The worst thing is, about a year before i came to this uni, Di Meola played here with Yngwie and Uli Jon Roth---i found an advert for it in an old magazine and i was completely gutted...tHat would have been the best show ever.

Evil_Empire24-7
02-01-2006, 06:31 AM
also don't forget he raised the sales of metronomes

pavan
02-01-2006, 06:33 AM
^ which uni?

JackWhite1988
02-01-2006, 12:43 PM
I met Al Di Meola about 2 years ago at a guitar store. He was doing an Ovation guitar clinic in a conference area. He played some tunes, told us about his career and afterwards people could meet him, get pictures taken with him, autographs etc. He was a cool dude, I got a picture with him.

ź├Fire¤nside╗
02-01-2006, 04:24 PM
^That sounds sweet.

wil
02-02-2006, 05:40 AM
^ which uni?

Its called Aberystwyth which on the coast of Wales---the thing that ****s me off is that the concert was at this Arts Centre thing which isnt big at all, and i cant imagine thered be TOO many fans here so i bet id have got front row or something.
I bought Rising Force from this Arts centre--it was ridiculously cheap-and this little old Japanese lady behind the counter says--
' you like Yngwie? Over here he is not as famous in Japan-in Japan, my son, all day, plays Ynwgie.'

pavan
02-02-2006, 09:06 PM
^ I've been to Swansea and Neath.
I love Wales

wil
02-06-2006, 04:49 AM
The welsh are, lets say, a unique breed.

pavan
02-06-2006, 04:59 AM
catherine zeta-jones!

wil
02-06-2006, 05:54 AM
Tom Jones.

pavan
02-06-2006, 09:17 PM
cant forget mr.wil can we?

wil
02-07-2006, 03:48 AM
????^^^

pavan
02-07-2006, 10:39 AM
i thought you were welsh.

hey look, we've hijacked this thread

Iboseth
02-07-2006, 01:40 PM
He plays jazz... I thught shredders were only metal and rock players?
if thats not truth then paco de lucia is a shredder┐

Resiliance
02-07-2006, 02:25 PM
As far as I'm concerned, the first hard-runner was a shredder.

wil
02-09-2006, 07:54 AM
i thought you were welsh.

hey look, we've hijacked this thread

I suppose im a half breed.

Erc
02-09-2006, 04:28 PM
Shredders are just technically proficient guitarists, not just metal/rock guitarists.

ChimyChonga Man
02-09-2006, 04:31 PM
Asking if Al Di Meola is a shredder is like asking if water is a liquid. And if Michael Angelo batio says he's a shredder, then there should be no further question.

Tim_Orme_Esq
11-21-2006, 03:20 PM
yeh he is clearly

Godly Moose
11-21-2006, 08:09 PM
Al Di = :heart:

TheUltimateSin
11-21-2006, 09:35 PM
He's a guitarist.

xxdarrenxx
11-22-2006, 04:09 AM
i think the term virtuoso suits him better, cause with shredding we always get those discussion whether the guy is a shredder or not. and then there's bad and good shred, and then there's is wanking. Just..virtuostic..will do.

Plus technically proficient is what? as in how fast you can play scales? I mean Michael Romeo is a good guitarist (can play some diffcult runs fast), and has some pretty technique down. But he just doesn't cut it for me. He never "rocks". And it doesn't have to do anything with technique, cause there are alot good guitarist (technically which I like).

I don't think you can define Al Di meola as shred cause he's more then "technically proficient" he's a musician and his composition amaze me sometimes more then his "shred" capabilities.

There are alot of guitarist that reach the level of Good Shred, but not many cut it as virtuoso.

The keyword here is: Musical Choices

Resiliance
11-22-2006, 05:48 AM
I don't think you can define Al Di meola as shred cause he's more then "technically proficient" he's a musician and his composition amaze me sometimes more then his "shred" capabilities.

There are alot of guitarist that reach the level of Good Shred, but not many cut it as virtuoso.

The keyword here is: Musical Choices

... Get what I'm saying?

xxdarrenxx
11-22-2006, 11:32 AM
I'm not sure if I get wat you're saying, what do/did you say? :p:

Resiliance
11-22-2006, 12:35 PM
Checkout what I bolded ;)

Metal_R_Us
11-22-2006, 01:02 PM
Can't we just say that he's god and be done with it?

TheUltimateSin
11-22-2006, 11:25 PM
Can't we just say that he's god and be done with it?

Because I'm sure Paul Gilbert would not take too kindly to blasphemy ;)

Metal_R_Us
11-22-2006, 11:46 PM
Because I'm sure Paul Gilbert would not take too kindly to blasphemy ;)


hmm. very true. and i think it would be best for all of use not to offend Paul Gilbert.

TheUltimateSin
11-23-2006, 12:26 AM
hmm. very true. and i think it would be best for all of use not to offend Paul Gilbert.

That's because Paul Gilbert will eat your soul ;)

xxdarrenxx
11-23-2006, 06:37 AM
I saw it, It amazes me but what did you say then?

Metal_R_Us
11-23-2006, 01:41 PM
That's because Paul Gilbert will eat your soul ;)



Well Paul Gilbert will have to find it first. I sold it for tickets to see Children of Bodom, so good luck with that.

TheUltimateSin
11-23-2006, 01:50 PM
Well Paul Gilbert will have to find it first. I sold it for tickets to see Children of Bodom, so good luck with that.

He's Paul Gilbert. He already owned your soul from day one. So technically, you sold empty promises for those tickets. ;)

So, not only have you enraged the great Gilberto, but also whoever you attempted to sell your soul to for tickets. Your quite "F'd in the A' " :)

Erc
11-23-2006, 04:12 PM
^:haha

Metal_R_Us
11-23-2006, 08:07 PM
He's Paul Gilbert. He already owned your soul from day one. So technically, you sold empty promises for those tickets. ;)

So, not only have you enraged the great Gilberto, but also whoever you attempted to sell your soul to for tickets. Your quite "F'd in the A' " :)



oh well. at least I get to see Children of Bodom. I'll die happy.

Shreddin 4 Life
11-24-2006, 02:40 AM
I'd vote him in as a shredder, but that's just me...

Justin Credible
10-15-2007, 07:00 PM
Anyone know what hes playing on his video on the D'Addario site? I think its the 5th video on the intro page. The cool Jazzy thing with the PRS that is. Though I'd like to know what the acoustic bit is too.

sheumack111
10-17-2007, 08:48 AM
In terms of speed, i think he can be considered a shredder, hes up there with some of the fastest players of all time. but musically i think hes much more than just a shredder because of his knowledge of musical theory. his written some pretty good chordal paterns in the Classical style.
And i can play some of mediteranean sundance, although im not sure i can be bothered to learn all of Als lead parts, i prefer to improvise.

And shredders dont have knowledge of music theory??? I wouldnt compare his chordal patterns at all classical either.... Alot of his stuff oozes the latin feel, he is not a flamenco guitarist though.... Latin and Flamenco are not the same thing!!! Its like comparing Santana and Paco Delucila