Smashing Pumpkins

[Squall142]

^She did cut it a lot between Gish and Mellon Collie/Adore even. Also, Billy doesn't need to donate his hair, donating millions to the make a wish foundation already makes me bow to him.

Damn I'm a pumpkin's bitch...

No one has to donate their hair, it's just something small we can do and it's better then discarding it. Besides, Billy didn't have millions During post-Gish/Pre-Siamese so he could've done it then.

[Zero-Hartman]

Interviewer: D'Arcy, is your hair really white?
D'Arcy: No it's, just a trick of the light that makes it look white, it's actually brown. -.-

[Nightwatchman10]

Interviewer: D'Arcy, is your hair really white?
D'Arcy: No it's, just a trick of the light that makes it look white, it's actually brown. -.-

haha well that was a bit of a stupid question
so it did diserve an answer like that :D

unless her hair really is brown :eek: haha

[Zero-Hartman]

haha well that was a bit of a stupid question
so it did diserve an answer like that :D

unless her hair really is brown :eek: haha
I'd doubt it :p: D'Arcy has attitude, it's a turn on ;)

[musiclover2399]

^Someone has a thing for the alternative-rock-badass-girl :)

So what do you guys think of Melissa? I think she's very pretty.

(Also the superchrist video was shockingly random. I thought it looked like something they'd put out around Gish)

[steve_muse]

^Someone has a thing for the alternative-rock-badass-girl :)

So what do you guys think of Melissa? I think she's very pretty.

(Also the superchrist video was shockingly random. I thought it looked like something they'd put out around Gish)

I agree with you about the Superchrist vid. Has that feel of Gish to it.
Can't wait to see Squalls reply to Melissa lmao She's not his favourite type of female...

And I don't particularly find her that attractive to be honest. Ginger all the way!
The guy that said jimmy looked like the stone roses dude, he does a bit lol.

[soundgarden19]

I love the Pumpkins, rotten apples was the first album i bought and i still listen to it all the way through, but i like d'arcy and james better then the new chicks.

[Squall142]

haha well that was a bit of a stupid question
so it did diserve an answer like that :D

Well not exactly, if it was really white and not dyed, wouldn't you want to know?

Can't wait to see Squalls reply to Melissa lmao She's not his favourite type of female...

Alright.... I really don't find anorexic women attractive... at all actually.

[Nightwatchman10]

Well not exactly, if it was really white and not dyed, wouldn't you want to know?



Alright.... I really don't find anorexic women attractive... at all actually.


hahahahaha

[steve_muse]

Listened to mayonaise last night, not heard it in a while. Probably one of my all time pumpkin's song.

James wrote it no?

[Nightwatchman10]

I have never heard it actually which is bizzare

[steve_muse]

^You've never heard mayonaise!?

You said you have Siamese dream though, you must have!

[Nightwatchman10]

Well I downloaded it from a dodgy website haha
I need to check the actual track listing of the CD to see if all the tracks are on there

or maybe im just a retard n cant remember it

I used to have SD on CD but I lent it to a friend and havnt seen it since

[steve_muse]

^ Some friend lol

Well download it or retrieve it somehow you baffoon lol The best track on SD in my opinion.

And when they played it live, I was ecstatic.

[Nightwatchman10]

hahaha
well i would, but if i lent it to the friend i think i lent it to, he moved to canada 3 months ago.. lol

but yeah, i'll re download it again and try and get all the tracks

im a bit too lazy right now though

[steve_muse]

good lol

And I downloaded the whole of SD too with the help of 4 songs from frenchy ;)

[Nightwatchman10]

wha?

[perry589]

Listened to mayonaise last night, not heard it in a while. Probably one of my all time pumpkin's song.

James wrote it no?

Yeah. One of my favourites from Siamese Dream. And James and Billy wrote it.

[Nightwatchman10]

James only wrote like 3 pumpkins songs didnt he?

Billy writes/wrote virtually everything

[perry589]

^ Yeah. James wrote 'Take Me Down' off Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness and 'Go' off Machina II.

[Nightwatchman10]

he wrote a few of the ones which they ended up not releasing as well I think.

You can hear them on that really expensive box set they released in 2001 I think.. called something like Airoplane or something..

[Squall142]

I like Take Me Down, has this.... kind of feel to it.

[musiclover2399]

"The aeroplane flies high" was released in 96 I think. It's a 5 disc set of b-sides from mellon collie that also is chocked full of behind-the-scenes photos. Back then it was like 40 bucks but since it was limited edition, a mint condition set can go for $200. I have it but I got it used after the guy cleaned the discs (not that they needed to be). It's honestly shocking that they're B-sides, the whole thing sounds like it can be a sequal to mellon collie.

Also, songs James wrote/co-wrote:
I Am One
Soma
Mayonaise
Blew Away
Take Me Down
...Said Sadly
Believe
The Boy
Summer
Go
He also sang the Cure cover "A night like this" and the Syd Barret cover "Terrapin". I think I'm missing some songs but still a small fraction of the pumpkins catalogue compared to Billy.

[FrenchyFungus]

^Him and Melissa also covered Don't You Love Me by The Human league.

Love that song.

*plays piano*

[Nightwatchman10]

^Him and Melissa also covered Don't You Love Me by The Human league.

Love that song.

*plays piano*

Oh yeah I remember reading that they covered that somewhere

[Zero-Hartman]

Ric Ocasek from The Cars in there somewhere too, and correct me if I'm wrong but Robert Smith also helped out? I might save up for it...

[Nightwatchman10]

haha this is awome

i burnt zeitgiest to a blank disk and now im blaring United States out on my CD player full volume

it sounds even better!!

[Zero-Hartman]

Sounds better when it's free :headbang: Just kidding, I actually bought it on the day it came out.

[Nightwatchman10]

haha, well I am going to buy some of their albums at some point

[steve_muse]

I'm thinking of getting Adore next.

[Nightwatchman10]

HMV just got a copy of Adore in stock. I could get it... but I dont have any money :(

[Squall142]

All I need is Adore and Macina I at this point.

How did that happen? Hahaha

[Nightwatchman10]

Check out the song Ugly, its on their myspace now:

Its AWSOME! its from the 1979 single I think

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=9685952

[FrenchyFungus]

^Check out this version too, an instrumental demo. http://www.rspaa.org/rspaa/Demos/Billy's%20Gravity%20Demos%20I/Gravity01%20-%2002%20-%20Ugly.mp3

[Zero-Hartman]

The kids from Linkin Park used to mow my lawn.

Oh my, I just remembered that quote ^^

[musiclover2399]

Ric Ocasek from The Cars in there somewhere too, and correct me if I'm wrong but Robert Smith also helped out? I might save up for it...
Not exactly, they did a Cars cover and a cure cover. They also did a blondie cover with Darcy on vocals and another cover I think but I can't remember now.

Also yeah Ugly is a 1979 b-side. That disc has a bunch of clean electric songs, like the single. Actually all the songs sound like their single for the most part.

[Nightwatchman10]

Oh my, I just remembered that quote ^^

haha is that true??

[Zero-Hartman]

Yea :haha "Corgans Rant", they didn't mow his lawn but at Glasgow he went on with this well funny rant about music and Amy Winehouse and stuff

[flambe chicken]

Anyone got a link for Superchrist at all? It's the only one they played in London that I don't have, and I don't know if I can get to Guitar Centre in time to get the CD (I'm going on holiday to the states in a couple of weeks).

I need it to complete the set!

And to the people discussing Aeroplane Flies High, great collection, I'm really addicted to Destination Unknown!

[Nightwatchman10]

you'll be able to find it as a torrent probably
go look for it

[Zero-Hartman]

I haven't found superchrist on limewire, just type in superchrist.mp3 on google and you'll find a torrent.

Not that I condone illegal downloading :no:

[Nightwatchman10]

i only download stuff just to see what its like..
like if i know its a good album and ive heard it before then i wont download it, i'll buy it.
but if its something ive not heard before by a band i dont know much about then i download it and usually end up removing it from my computer anyway because i dont like it

but yeh anyway, superchrist is almost certain to have a torrent

[TobyFellrunners]

Have any of you guys seen the tour edition of American Gothic running about any shops in the UK? I'm considering ordering the normal version of HMV.com right now, but I guess I could always download the live tracks once they are online somewhere eh?

[steve_muse]

Yea :haha "Corgans Rant", they didn't mow his lawn but at Glasgow he went on with this well funny rant about music and Amy Winehouse and stuff

That was hilarious lol then about alternative rock and stuff lol

Weird how superchrist hasn't been released on a CD but it has a video.

[Nightwatchman10]

Have any of you guys seen the tour edition of American Gothic running about any shops in the UK? I'm considering ordering the normal version of HMV.com right now, but I guess I could always download the live tracks once they are online somewhere eh?

HMV in York has one copy of it in stock in store cos I picked it up

[DanteR*]

Weird how superchrist hasn't been released on a CD but it has a video.
Superchrist is being released on some guitar center compilation cd.

[Nightwatchman10]

yeah it is

[steve_muse]

Superchrist is being released on some guitar center compilation cd.

Ahh never knew that. cheers.

[TobyFellrunners]

HMV in York has one copy of it in stock in store cos I picked it up

Ah cool. I'll check out a couple of the HMV's in Manchester, maybe London when I go down there.

Thanks alot man!

[Nightwatchman10]

Ah cool. I'll check out a couple of the HMV's in Manchester, maybe London when I go down there.

Thanks alot man!

No worries man, and I think if York has it in stock, then Manchester or London most definatly will

[musiclover2399]

Superchrist is being released on some guitar center compilation cd.
While looking into that I noticed Billy and Jimmy just did an interview with guitar center that's pretty cool and I recommend checking out, it's on guitar center's site.

[Grungy2425]

So will the pumpkins ever come and tour the US agian? I hate this ignoring the states but lets do 7 shows in New Zealand attitude.... :rolleyes:

[Nightwatchman10]

So will the pumpkins ever come and tour the US agian? I hate this ignoring the states but lets do 7 shows in New Zealand attitude.... :rolleyes:

hahahaha dont worry im PRETTY sure they will :p:

and by pretty sure I mean ALMOST 100% SURE

[musiclover2399]

^lol

Have they put up dates yet?

COME BACK TO CHICAGO YOU BASTARDS!!! Well, not bastards, but still you know!?

[Nightwatchman10]

^lol

Have they put up dates yet?

COME BACK TO CHICAGO YOU BASTARDS!!! Well, not bastards, but still you know!?

no i dont think so

but they will play in the US again im sure of it

unless theyre splitting up again :mad: which theyre not are they?

[steve_muse]

no i dont think so

but they will play in the US again im sure of it

unless theyre splitting up again :mad: which theyre not are they?

No lol, i remember Corgan stating 'We'll stay as a band, for ever and ever and never split up'

well along the lines of that, but there ya go.

[Nightwatchman10]

No lol, i remember Corgan stating 'We'll stay as a band, for ever and ever and never split up'

well along the lines of that, but there ya go.

haha for some reason that doesnt sound much like Corgan hahaha

but yeah, thats super awome anyway
im glad theyre staying togther for good now

[steve_muse]

^yeah i know, well he said it in a kind of jokey way, but I'm sure he really meant it.

[Nightwatchman10]

WHATTT!!

Corgan was being jokey!

you gotta be kidding me

;)
joke

[Squall142]

So.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVxzMCOmubQ

[steve_muse]

That was great but I personally prefer d'arcy singing it, suits it better I think.

[Squall142]

^Same here man

My Daydream.....

[steve_muse]

Lol haha was just looking through corgan vids and I found one where he was in some wrestling ring LOL with his guitar, didn't see it all though. So did anyone ever buy his solo album?

[Nightwatchman10]

Lol haha was just looking through corgan vids and I found one where he was in some wrestling ring LOL with his guitar, didn't see it all though. So did anyone ever buy his solo album?

is that the one where he hits the dude over the head with his acoutic and puts one foot on the 'unconscious' wrestler dude and throws his arms in the air while the crowd go crazy to the sound of The Everlasting Gaze..??

:D :D :D that is my favourite youtube video

[musiclover2399]

^Oh yeah, he's a wrestling fan and used an acoustic guitar as his weapon, ****ing awesome.

Also I have his solo album, think Machina but more beat-orientated. There's a song he did with Robert Smith, a cover of "To Love Somebody" by the beach boys I think and it's great, very sad. "You don't know what it's like to love somebody, the way that I love you..."

Plus Jimmy played on a song too which was cool.

[Nightwatchman10]

Jimmy played a song on Billy's solo album?

[musiclover2399]

^Yeah, drums of course, it was a song where the title was made of initials, I can't remember right now. Also Billy appeared on Jimmy's solo album too. He did vocals on this song called Loki Cat I think.

[supergerbil]

^Yeah, drums of course, it was a song where the title was made of initials, I can't remember right now. Also Billy appeared on Jimmy's solo album too. He did vocals on this song called Loci Cat I think.

I thinks its DIA

[musiclover2399]

^Yeah that sounds right. Also the one video they made for it was so unbelievably trippy... but cool of course. Also the album art was kind of shocking at first but it's interesting.

[UMadeMeRealise]

I'm really into the second side of Gish at the moment. "Snail" is quite lovely, isn't it?

[musiclover2399]

Yeah, man LSD can make you make some psychedelic music eh?

[Nightwatchman10]

Yeah, man LSD can make you make some psychedelic music eh?

Indeed it can ;)

Cherub Rock has had me rocking out for days man...

[FrenchyFungus]

So will the pumpkins ever come and tour the US agian? I hate this ignoring the states but lets do 7 shows in New Zealand attitude.... :rolleyes:
How do you think people in New Zealand feel?

Pumpkins toured the US in Autumn, FFS.

[Zero-Hartman]

How do you think people in New Zealand feel?

Pumpkins toured the US in Autumn, FFS.
Exactly, they've done plenty of US tours, it's time for the people of the world to enjoy now.

[Nightwatchman10]

yep i agree with the top 2 above posts

[musiclover2399]

We just miss them is all :sad:

Also does anyone else read their blog? They haven't made an entry in something like 2 months!

[Squall142]

^Never knew they had one!

[musiclover2399]

Yeah the whole band started up a blog on smashingpumpkins.com after they reunited and the site was remodeled. There are entries by all 5 members and they're all great reads talking about touring and fans and vids and such.

[Squall142]

^Interesting.

I have a question. I read on Wikipedia that Corgan and Iha split the soloing duties on MCIS 50/50. I'm wonder, what songs did Iha get to solo on? This is what I know for sure:

Corgan:
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
An Ode to No One (I think there's one)
Here is No Why
Muzzle
Jellybelly

Iha:
Zero

Can anyone fill the holes for me? Haha

[Zero-Hartman]

Technically, Billy did pretty much all the solos during recording, Iha was meant to be for live stoofz :S

I know Iha does Porcelina too.

[Nightwatchman10]

Iha does adds his own solo on Disarm at the end all the time, even in the 94 era

I know that much

[Squall142]

Zero: It was mentioned on the album he got to do some. I know he did some live stuff, like on Disarm as NWM said.

There we go, Porcelina! Muahahaha!

[Nightwatchman10]

i read somewhere that during the siamese dream and gish era.
billy was a real douche when it came to recording, he used to record james guitar parts so he could get them how HE wanted them.
but thats billy i guess


aparantly Siva has either around 40 or 100 different guitar layers.

its either 40 or 100 i cant remember.

[SweetJem]

I've been listening to the Smashing Pumpkins since the 90's when i heard "Today" from the Siamese Dream album, my cousin introduced me to them...then i kinda forgot about them for a while...then I heard "Mayonaise" on the radio about a year ago...and i really liked..so i started looking for their songs again...

I really loved "Mayonaise" and Thirty-three" ...listening to "Soma" right now..pretty cool, chill song...

[Squall142]

Nightwatchman: Yeah, he also took over D'arcy's recording duties for Siamese as well.

Siva had that many? Really? I thought they started doing that with the next album. Interesting

[UMadeMeRealise]

I read somewhere or other that "Siva" only had about 10 overdubbed guitars. Nightwatchman may have confused that with "Soma," which does have 40.

[Nightwatchman10]

I read somewhere or other that "Siva" only had about 10 overdubbed guitars. Nightwatchman may have confused that with "Soma," which does have 40.

THATS IT!

yeah sorry i got confused. my bad

[Squall142]

Ooooh. Soma has 40. Very muddy heh

[Nightwatchman10]

Ooooh. Soma has 40. Very muddy heh


yeah man, thats Billy's ego for ya.

but he was depressed at the time and having known people myself who have had REAL physcological depression, I can understand it does make you paranoid and on edge and moody a lot.

im not talking about little emo kid depression here, where emos say they are depressed just cos someone called them a 'hurtful' name at school. thats complete BS, but anyway.

[Squall142]

^How is that his ego? It's just layering.

It sucks....

Emo = Most overused word our generation has. Ever.

[perry589]

^ Yeah. I hate how 'emo' is only used negatively now.

Listening to Soma atm. Has such a spacy feel. Just makes me want to float around.

[Squall142]

^It's just.... "Hating emo has become a bigger trend then being emo" is a signature I read on here months ago. So true. Old meaning or new meaning, so overused...

Soma is hella swell. I love the solo. Nice use of speed in it

[perry589]

^ Yeah. One of Billy's best, dare i say.

[Squall142]

I'm quite partial to Here is No Why and Geek U.S.A's and Soma's at the moment.

Does anyone one else have their hand go numb when playing the riff to Tarantula? Downpicking is hard for me hah

[UMadeMeRealise]

"Soma" is my favourite SP solo. The one on "Tristessa" is really good as well.

*edit*

And "Here Is No Why." How could I forget that one?

[perry589]

I'm quite partial to Here is No Why and Geek U.S.A's and Soma's at the moment.

Does anyone one else have their hand go numb when playing the riff to Tarantula? Downpicking is hard for me hah

Nah. My hand doesn't go numb. Learning some metal helps with the downpicking.

[Nightwatchman10]

well i did just make a huge post in relpy to the emo stuff said above..

but my computer crashed when i clicked the 'post reply' button and it got wiped away and i cant be bothered to retype it again

so just forget it.

[Squall142]

Best to do it in the Quick Reply box. "Go Advanced" on here sucks

[UMadeMeRealise]

I'm quite partial to Here is No Why and Geek U.S.A's and Soma's at the moment.

Does anyone one else have their hand go numb when playing the riff to Tarantula? Downpicking is hard for me hah

I used to have that problem. My sugegstion: sit down and work your through Metallica's Master of Puppets.

[Nightwatchman10]

Best to do it in the Quick Reply box. "Go Advanced" on here sucks

i was quoting so it made me go advanced

[perry589]

^ Save before you reply. That's what i do because my internet sometimes crashes when i reply too.

[Nightwatchman10]

^ Save before you reply. That's what i do because my internet sometimes crashes when i reply too.

what?!

no that'd take way to much effort when there is a muuucccchh easier way to post replies..

plus who cares if it does crash.. im not gonna make a big deal about it, im only posting on a guitar forum anyway. its not like im trying to save the world or anything

[im in a really pi$$y mood tonight but i'll be okay tommorow, im usually quite nice]

[Squall142]

Yeah, I copy and paste it here in the Quick Reply box some times, since Going Advanced is unreliable. I do sometimes go it in advanced and it works, but it's still crap.

[Nightwatchman10]

well im just gonna stick to my easier and lazier way thanks

[Squall142]

I think we're all lazy, considering we're on an internet forum and not working :p:

So yeah, any one else have a little trouble playing Tarantula's downpicking riff?

[Nightwatchman10]

I think we're all lazy, considering we're on an internet forum and not working :p:

So yeah, any one else have a little trouble playing Tarantula's downpicking riff?


hahha true :p:

ive never bothered learning any of the songs from ZeitGeist cos i cant be arsed tunning my guitar down.

i only play in standard tunning, which is why i never learn how to play songs in any other tunning other than standard. no matter which band it is im trying to learn.

that doesnt mean i dont like songs in other tunnings accept standard though. OF COURSE NOT!

[Squall142]

You can still learn songs in standard if they're not y'know :p:

[Nightwatchman10]

You can still learn songs in standard if they're not y'know :p:

even though i said thats not what i do.

i did do that for songs like zero :D and stand inside your love

i worked out how to play em in standard. but generally i dnt bother it takes too much time and im lazy anyway

[Squall142]

Just play them on the same frets, don't have to change it for key, if you play them live all you need to do it tune down.

[musiclover2399]

I don't really get it when people say they have trouble downpicking. I mean do you start alternate picking as soon as you start guitar or something?

I didn't try until like a year in. Before, I tried playing all these fast solos and riffs and such totally downpicked, which helped I guess because I rarely have problems.

[Squall142]

^I can downpick, my arm just REALLY tired quickly

[Nightwatchman10]

Downpicking is what I spent the first year of playing guitar doing.

I always alternate pick now, but that doesnt mean i cant downpick.

[Squall142]

^Ah. Well I've been going to the gym a lit for the past month, when I go more I'll get more arm strength and I can can make my arm go down fast all day long haha.

*Waits for masturbation joke*

[bah humbug]

^lulz..

[steve_muse]

^Ah. Well I've been going to the gym a lit for the past month, when I go more I'll get more arm strength and I can can make my arm go down fast all day long haha.

*Waits for masturbation joke*

lmao. Yeah, I still downpick more than alternative just becuase i feel a lot more comfortable with it, but I'll need to try and get used to the old alternative way.

But if your talking about tremelo.... WOOOOOOO

Nothing more satisfying than a good tremelo over the 15th fret lol...

Anyway, is the stuff from Zeitgeist downtuned? :( ahh well, I'm with nightwatchman, STARNDARD TUNING ALL THE WAY!

better not say that loud when josh homme from QOTSA is there...

[Squall142]

Alt. picking is easier for me.

Most of the Pumpkins' material is downtuned. And all tunings are awesome - Wait until you try Open A or G or something :p:

[BerryTree]

am I the only one who thinks they were crazy for not releasing Here is No Why as a single in 1996

[Squall142]

^If they did, people would bitch about it saying "Psh, it's a single, it's not like their non-released stuff!"

[BerryTree]

i dont know who says that....today, cherub rock, 1979, disarm were all singles and are highly praised by everyone...im sure here is no why would have the same praise.

(Although I see were your coming from...BWBW is so ****ing overplayed now)

[Squall142]

^That's not where I was coming from. Every band has the people who hate the singles because everyone likes them and only likes the stuff from the album. It happens.

[BerryTree]

Thats funny you say that since during one pumpkins concert....(I think it was 1996 at the fleetcenter...yes they were THAT popular..packed house too) Most of the crowd only knew the big hits like BWBW and 1979 anyways....the "MTV" crowd. Man that band was something to see back then. I really think billy lost "it". The drummer wasnt that good though...it was after that Jimmy Chamberlain heroin overdose thing

[Squall142]

^Don't like Zeitgeist?

[BerryTree]

^Don't like Zeitgeist?

Its alright but from a standpoint on were they WERE from 1994- 1996...it seems that there starting over again and making a record just to MAKE one. the songs on the cd sound like watered down versions of **** from gish-sd with stadium rock guitar solos filled in. It sounds hollow to me, and corgan cant overdub vocals for ****. (Yes he did overdub his vocals on SD but Butch Vig did that job.)

If you were around to see this band in its prime then you would see how far the quality feel. Keep in mind the time periods in which the albums were made....you here lots of **** like Zeitgeist nowadays, but SD and Mellon Collie were one in a kind pieces.

[Squall142]

I personally really like Zeitgeist. Great songs, etc, etc. Got everything but Adore now (from studio albums).

Besides, Corgan already said this was a Mainstream Alternative album, to "eaze" people into it or something

[BerryTree]

I personally really like Zeitgeist. Great songs, etc, etc. Got everything but Adore now (from studio albums).

Besides, Corgan already said this was a Mainstream Alternative album, to "eaze" people into it or something

get it NOOOW...its like their version of automatic for the people (From REM)....but worse.

[Squall142]

^I almost got it, but the copy I got from the Library was scratched and crappy. I got two songs from it.

[BerryTree]

lol I can imagine that album being at the library...(There are alot of used copies whenever I go into record stores.) Still a good album though, just "different". Usually whenever I ask somebody if they like the pumpkins they'll say "Yea when they were a rock band and didn't do techno". This was about 10 years ago though....

[Squall142]

Who thought they did Techno? They added Electronica componants like Synths and Drum machines, but who would call them Techno?

[BerryTree]

Who thought they did Techno? They added Electronica componants like Synths and Drum machines, but who would call them Techno?

Ignorant bandwagon fans during that period (I'm exaggerating a little bit mind you).

[Squall142]

Obviously.

Well every decade has the ignorant people. We all may be a bit ignorant about somethings I guess, but the best thing to do? Check something out before you say something haha.

... That reminds me, I need to get more Techno and Electronica

[Zero-Hartman]

Hell yea boy, techno owns. Occasionally. Only when you're really drunk and dancing withy some girl whose name you've forgotten already but yea, it's the good stuff.

House music is definetly the shizzle.

[steve_muse]

I'm not a big techno fan lol, and i don't think Machina would count as techno at all, or Adore from what I've heard. They're not hard rock albums, but i think the electric effect really worked well with Billy's voice.

I have the same as you Squall, just need Adore, and Pisces isn't a studio one no?
which to get 1st...

[Nightwatchman10]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

You are seriously kidding me that someone said the smashing pumpkins were TECHNO!!

HAHAHA

they went electronica on some songs like Ava Adore and 1979 and a few others.. but NO WAY is ANYTHING of theirs Techno!

[Squall142]

^I already said that :p: But yeah, totally.

I'm not a big techno fan lol, and i don't think Machina would count as techno at all, or Adore from what I've heard. They're not hard rock albums, but i think the electric effect really worked well with Billy's voice.

I have the same as you Squall, just need Adore, and Pisces isn't a studio one no?
which to get 1st...

Isn't Pisces a boxset or something?

[UMadeMeRealise]

Pisces Iscariot is a single-disc of pre-Mellon Collie B-sides and radio sessions

[steve_muse]

^ahhryt, But after hearing landslide on their myspace, I'm tempted to buy Pisces.

[perry589]

^ You should. Got some great songs that didn't deserve to be b-sides: Obscurred, Blue, Frail And Bedazzled, Soothe.

[cundinamarca89]

Landslide was a pretty big success for a b-side.

[BerryTree]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

You are seriously kidding me that someone said the smashing pumpkins were TECHNO!!

HAHAHA

they went electronica on some songs like Ava Adore and 1979 and a few others.. but NO WAY is ANYTHING of theirs Techno!

life is full of fools.But Im sure they dont really care about the band...just those few pumpkins pop albums. as much as I hate to admit, the pumpkins were right up there with bush, oasis and alanis morisette in terms of fame, and once they changed there sound, so did half of the band wagoning fan base (Bitches).

[Squall142]

^Well, to be fair, even people here aren't the fondess of post MCIS (They seem to like it, but not a lot of fans of Machina I, that's for sure).

[BerryTree]

^Well, to be fair, even people here aren't the fondess of post MCIS (They seem to like it, but not a lot of fans of Machina I, that's for sure).

i think the band was bound to fade anyways...their peak was too short, expectations too high...too much material released in too short of time....(Think of the amount of songs they released during a span of two ****ing years..mostly quality.)

releasing a double album was the best and worst thing that coulve happened to them imo.

[Squall142]

*Shrugs* I dunno, I don't think about it, I listen to what my years like and I like what I've heard post MCIS (Machina II (and B-sides), and Zeitgeist)

[BerryTree]

*Shrugs* I dunno, I don't think about it, I listen to what my years like and I like what I've heard post MCIS (Machina II (and B-sides), and Zeitgeist)

yes its good that the younger generation gets to witness the brilliance of this band...and corgans songwriting.

[Squall142]

Yeah, great band I think. Apparently I'm a "'90's Alternative guy" and a "Funk" guy according to my guitar teacher heh.

[musiclover2399]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

You are seriously kidding me that someone said the smashing pumpkins were TECHNO!!

HAHAHA

they went electronica on some songs like Ava Adore and 1979 and a few others.. but NO WAY is ANYTHING of theirs Techno!
Dude, cut them some slack, do you have Adore or Machina II? I remember Billy and James even said before they released adore that electronica was the music of the future.

You are not gonna tell me that Eye, AVA Adore, Perfect, Daphne Descends, Tear, Appels + Oranjes, Pug, Behold! The Night Mare, Here's To The Atom Bomb (Machina II version, not the judas version), Saturnine (again, Machina II version), Soot and Stars, Blissed & Gone, and Speed Kills all don't sound electronic/techno, especially when that was a goal of theirs?

[Nightwatchman10]

Dude, cut them some slack, do you have Adore or Machina II? I remember Billy and James even said before they released adore that electronica was the music of the future.

You are not gonna tell me that Eye, AVA Adore, Perfect, Daphne Descends, Tear, Appels + Oranjes, Pug, Behold! The Night Mare, Here's To The Atom Bomb (Machina II version, not the judas version), Saturnine (again, Machina II version), Soot and Stars, Blissed & Gone, and Speed Kills all don't sound electronic/techno, especially when that was a goal of theirs?


oh my god.

wow.. just wow.

dude, for future referece, PLEASE read people's posts before you comment on them.

[Zero-Hartman]

Landslide was a pretty big success for a b-side.
Pretty big for a cover anyway. Fleetwood Mac did the original I believe

[Nightwatchman10]

Pretty big for a cover anyway. Fleetwood Mac did the original I believe

No it was Stevie Nicks who covered it (with her husband i believe) when she went solo.
But yeah, she was in Fleetwood Mac. I love Fleetwood Mac.

So you were partly right :)


and yeah Landslide was a fantastic cover, very well done by Billy.

[Zero-Hartman]

Awesome, Stevie Nicks is the shizzle

"Just like the white winged dove, sings a song sounds like she's singin' ooh baby ooh, said ooh..."

[Squall142]

^That song is sooo dope!

Dude, cut them some slack, do you have Adore or Machina II? I remember Billy and James even said before they released adore that electronica was the music of the future.

You are not gonna tell me that Eye, AVA Adore, Perfect, Daphne Descends, Tear, Appels + Oranjes, Pug, Behold! The Night Mare, Here's To The Atom Bomb (Machina II version, not the judas version), Saturnine (again, Machina II version), Soot and Stars, Blissed & Gone, and Speed Kills all don't sound electronic/techno, especially when that was a goal of theirs?

I'mma have to go with Nightwatchman here, read posts more clearly man.

[musiclover2399]

^No offense to you whatsoever (you seem like a cool guy), but what else am I supposed to interpret besides this guy acting like he's above casual fans? His response clearly meant to belittle me didn't exactly help.

EDIT: Also Stevie wrote landslide for the Fleetwood Mac album "Fleetwood Mac"; so technically it's a fleetwood song not a Nicks song.

[Squall142]

Well thanks, you too but NWM was laughing at the thought of the Pumpkins being called Techno when the most they did was add elements of Electronica (synths, drum loops, etc). Not Techno at all, he just found it funny.

[Zero-Hartman]

Any song learning reccomendations? I'm bored.

[Nightwatchman10]

Any song learning reccomendations? I'm bored.

Either:

ZERO
STAND INSIDE YOUR LOVE
TRY TRY TRY
BULLET WITH BUTTERFLY WINGS
or
DISARM

[Zero-Hartman]

I'll learn Try Try Try, I know the other ones there =P

Stand Inside Your Love is exceptionally fun to play.

[Nightwatchman10]

I'll learn Try Try Try, I know the other ones there =P

Stand Inside Your Love is exceptionally fun to play.


haha yeah i just listed my favourite ones to play :p: :D

try try try is real easy but its GREAT fun

[bradulator]

Bullet With Butterfly Wings is my favorite

[Zero-Hartman]

Disarm is good for campfires, and I can show off my impressive Corgan impression (sneering through the whole song). Also, Galapagos, look that one up.

[Nightwatchman10]

bullet with butterfly wings is one of the ultimate teenage angst songs i recon :p

[Zero-Hartman]

Hah yea it sure is.

[FrenchyFungus]

Tarantula and Siva are my favourites to play.

Really wish I could be arsed to learn Geek USA though.

[Zero-Hartman]

Geek USA is amazing, It looks quite hard but it's pretty easy. Solo is pretty hard, but occasionally I can nail it :)

[Nightwatchman10]

If i could be bothered to detune my guitar id learn Tarantula... but ya know i cant..
LOL

:)

[Zero-Hartman]

Avatar change :wtf:

I got 3 guitars, all 3 in Half-Step...I should really have standard, open G and half-step but I just can't be bothered with all the fuss ^^

[Nightwatchman10]

all my 3 guitars have broken strings :(
and i have no money for new strings

oh well

OMG OMG OMG!!! BILLY PLAYING BASS LIVE

http://www.loveissuicide.net/melloncollie/bc-mc-l-bw-zero-leanonamp.jpg

[steve_muse]

Sweet^

And uh, while yous were on the topic of SP songs to learn, well since I'm as lazy as Nightwatchman, can yous give me a brief outline of the songs that are standard tuning?

[Nightwatchman10]

Sweet^

And uh, while yous were on the topic of SP songs to learn, well since I'm as lazy as Nightwatchman, can yous give me a brief outline of the songs that are standard tuning?

damn right mother ****er, i love being lazy as **** :D :D
excuse my cursive manner :cool:
a list would be good

[Squall142]

How lazy can you be with the guitar though? Seriously.

[Nightwatchman10]

er.. let me think about this.. i am very lazy when it comes to doing anything with my guitar accept playing it

[Squall142]

And learning songs you can easily learn in Standard? :p:

[Nightwatchman10]

YEAHH!

somtimes i can be bothered to try and work it out for standard if its detuned, but that never really happens at all. im too busy sitting around on my coach eating, sleepign or watching TV

:D

[Squall142]

Ah. I'm the same, but I still play guitar for a good chunck of the day. Non-motivated really. If I learn a song that's in Eb, I usually put the tuning in Power Tab to standard and work it out like that hahaha.

[Nightwatchman10]

oh i play guitar like all the time too, i just never bother detuning it really. thats basically what i do

and sit around with my guitar

[Squall142]

I'm generally to lazy to learn songs unless if I really want to (Like when I learned Here is No Why).

Here is No Why is excellent as hell.

[Nightwatchman10]

haha yeah one day i was hell bored and just learnt Sunkissed.. pretty coool

[Squall142]

Never heard that one

[Nightwatchman10]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r80/RobAndrews10/mossy_owl_poptart.jpg

:D :D

[steve_muse]

lmao, Sunkissed is on American Gothic Squall. Sweet song.

But will you 2 stop raving about your lazyness lol and tell me what songs are in standard as i am too lazy to search UG!...

[Squall142]

Aha.

Hah Steve....

Uhhmmm...... Gish is in standard hahaha

[Nightwatchman10]

try try try is in stanard, its soooooooooo easy but great to play and sing along to.

cherub rock is in standard, probably the best song in the world to play along to right now for me. I cnt get enough of that sweet riff :D

Disarm is in standard.. just you have to learn it! it is such a beautiful song.

Siva is standard as well.... i think???

[steve_muse]

Disarm, I'll get on that defo!

[Nightwatchman10]

good man!

[Squall142]

Disarm... I still try to practice singing and playing guitar with it. Getting a bit better

[Zero-Hartman]

Today is in standard, "It was made to be in E", I quote.

Along those lines anyway.

[Nightwatchman10]

Today is in standard, "It was made to be in E", I quote.

Along those lines anyway.

oh yeah today is standard as well, but i find playing it realy boring, especially if its just playing the rythem part

so i tend to play billys lead part if EVER i play this song

[Zero-Hartman]

Yea same actually. Except I have to play 12 - 14 - 16 for the intro, because I'm too lazy :)

Edit: Billy fucking up the start of The Rose March :haha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8eLaKptYXk)

The most inspiring video I've ever seen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVX09VQlzyA)

[Nightwatchman10]

Yea same actually. Except I have to play 12 - 14 - 16 for the intro, because I'm too lazy :)

Edit: Billy fucking up the start of The Rose March :haha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8eLaKptYXk)

The most inspiring video I've ever seen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVX09VQlzyA)

haha that video of him getting rose march wrong is funny, but hey, it does look hard.
so i gotta give it to him anyway :D

[Zero-Hartman]

I learnt The Rose March today, really fun to play and I find it quite easy to be honest

[musiclover2399]

Yea same actually. Except I have to play 12 - 14 - 16 for the intro, because I'm too lazy :)

Edit: Billy fucking up the start of The Rose March :haha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8eLaKptYXk)

The most inspiring video I've ever seen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVX09VQlzyA)
I saw that writing vid when it first came out, when they were all at the filmore I think.

Isn't there another day in the life vid where they're all prepping for a show and Ginger says the first time she heard Smashing Pumpkins music was when she was working in Chuck E Cheese AS Chuck E Cheese over the intercom thing?

Also you have to admit, a lot of Adore era sounds techno considering the very repetitive rhythms and the fact that on some songs EVERYTHING was electronic except Billy's voice.

[Nightwatchman10]

I of the Mourning is now one of my favourite SPs songs.

The lyrics are emotional which always makes a good song in my opinion, and the song's music really adds to the emotional output too.
I love SPs songs with sad lyrics about lonliness and stuff.. i can make personal links between Billys lyrics and what he is singing about to what is happening in my life.

[Zero-Hartman]

I'll have to check that vid out musiclover, but I must leave now as Whose Line Is It Anyway? has just appeared on the TV.

Nightwatchman, that's what I love about SP, they have at least a whole album you can relate to, and no matter what mood you're in, there's a song to fit it

:cheers:

[Nightwatchman10]

I'll have to check that vid out musiclover, but I must leave now as Whose Line Is It Anyway? has just appeared on the TV.

I love that show! :D

Nightwatchman, that's what I love about SP, they have at least a whole album you can relate to, and no matter what mood you're in, there's a song to fit it

:cheers:

Exaclty!!!

[Zero-Hartman]

I've got The Rose March memorised now, it's even more fun to play than Stand Inside Your Love, I'm going to tab on Guitar Pro 5 when I get round to it

[Squall142]

Also you have to admit, a lot of Adore era sounds techno considering the very repetitive rhythms and the fact that on some songs EVERYTHING was electronic except Billy's voice.

That's not Techno, it's Electronica. Techno is very dance oriented, and the only songs danceable to in the Pumpkins catalogue are their slow ones.

[Zero-Hartman]

Techno and Electronica are completely different things. Electronica>Techno

[Squall142]

^I can't choose a whole genre over the other :(

I'm getting into Uffie, a rapper/electronica chick. So sweet, great flow.

But back to the Pumpkins! Yeah, it was Electronica in their music, totally heh.... and maybe Cherub Rock would be a somewhat decent at some kind of dance? MAYBE at most.

[Zero-Hartman]

Everlasting Gaze is danceable, I've done it before, in the middle of the pub, by myself...

:sad:

[Squall142]

^Haven't heard that one so I can't say.

Siva has a small amount of Funkyness in it, the E7+9 chord for instance.

[Zero-Hartman]

Classic "Pumpkins Chord", if I figure out how to post GP5 songs I'll post my Gish inspired song, got some Pearl Jam/Screaming Trees influence in there too

[Squall142]

The G#5 octave is the "Pumpkins Classic Chord" :p:

[Zero-Hartman]

Well anything with an open E or A is a Pumpkins Chord I've bee told :D THat's quite awesome, having a whole chord to your name :) Gsus chords ftw.

[Squall142]

^How is that possible? Those are just really popular chords.

G#5 Octave is in a lot of their songs though. Rhinocerus, Geek U.S.A, Cherub Rock, etc, etc (I'd say more but my mind is blanking like mad now (tired))

[steve_muse]

you haven't hear everlasting gaze? Get machina man! Brilliant song, amazing live too ;)

Just learned disarm, never thought such an amazing song could be revolved around boring old G.
amazing, man pumpkins are the shizz.

[Squall142]

^I'm to lazy to use Limewire - it slows my computer down so much when I open it.

Doesn't it revolve around C more then G?

[steve_muse]

^not on the tabs I used

Well buy it...

[Squall142]

No money.

I saw a lot of C's in the Power Tab I have.

[steve_muse]

agh power tab. Just the normal guitar tab I used.
but yeah I think there was Cabb7... Or something.

[Squall142]

He used the C to transition from verse to chorus (Four bars of 'em)

[steve_muse]

Ahhryt. Well its a great song anyway, and when NWM says he sings to it, would be funny he was trying to mimic billy's voice...

[Squall142]

^He is?

[steve_muse]

Sorry, meant to put an 'if' there lol

[Squall142]

Oh.

I remember Billy once said "For a skinny, tall, bald guy with a whiny voice, I've done all right"

[Nightwatchman10]

Oh.

I remember Billy once said "For a skinny, tall, bald guy with a whiny voice, I've done all right"

Hahaha yeah I like it when Billy said that :D

and yes, I always sing along to disarm while I play it or if im listening to it on my ipod.

I might not be good at singing it but I enjoy it so why should i give a **** what other people think. :D :D

[Zero-Hartman]

I'm awesome at drunk singing Disarm, I get the proper sneers on the go.

[Nightwatchman10]

I'm awesome at drunk singing Disarm, I get the proper sneers on the go.


hahaha seriously, its sooo much fun to do impressions of Billys voice :D

but his voice is realllllyyyyy goood


http://youtube.com/watch?v=q2Idn34pqNI
UNITED STATES LIVE!! ****ING AWSOME

[steve_muse]

hahaha seriously, its sooo much fun to do impressions of Billys voice :D

but his voice is realllllyyyyy goood


http://youtube.com/watch?v=q2Idn34pqNI
UNITED STATES LIVE!! ****ING AWSOME

Awsome video!

And yeah, his voice is magical.

[Zero-Hartman]

He can actually sing beautifully though, like on Landslide and Sparrow, his acoustic stuff is impressive.

[steve_muse]

Totally agree^ Landslide is pushing me to buy Pisces.

And American Gothic has an amazing 4 acoustic tracks!

[Zero-Hartman]

I learnt The Rose March :D I'm learning to sing with it too, the start where he chants over it is bloody hard at the moment!

[steve_muse]

oooft *thinks back to where Billy messed up* That does look pretty difficult.

I'm sticking with Disarm! lol easy as hell, fun as hell.

[Nightwatchman10]

american gothic is brilliant

landslide is beautiful... but after a while of constant listening (which is always a bad idea with any song) it gets a bit boring, but thats my fault for not listening to something else for i didnt get so bored.

United States is back on to the top of my top SPs songs again :D

[Squall142]

Zero seems like it would be hard to sing and play during the Harmonic slide part thing...

I always make Disarm playing/singing sound so choppy. If I didn't have my parents here all the time, I'd practice more hahaha

[Nightwatchman10]

Zero seems like it would be hard to sing and play during the Harmonic slide part thing...

its not really that hard, It just does take practise.. as I learnt, but once you get it its fine. i can go the whole way through it singing/playing

I always make Disarm playing/singing sound so choppy. If I didn't have my parents here all the time, I'd practice more hahaha

i told my parents to sit down and shut the **** up and listen to me play/sing it. whether they think im good or not.

i do that with a lot of songs i learn

[Zero-Hartman]

I think I'll learn the whole Siamese Dream album at some point...

Then move onto Mellon Collie :)

[Nightwatchman10]

I think I'll learn the whole Siamese Dream album at some point...

Then move onto Mellon Collie :)

Thatd be awsome :)

Id love to be able to learn the whole of an album and just go through the whole album in one go on my guitar :D

[67_67]

I think I'll learn the whole Siamese Dream album at some point...

Then move onto Mellon Collie :)

I know quite a bit of Siamese Dream. Only songs I can't play (or haven't yet tried to) are Mayonaise, Spaceboy, Sweet Sweet and Luna. I know all I want to from Mellon Collie. I'm fucked if I'm learning a double album :haha

[Zero-Hartman]

I know quite a bit of Siamese Dream. Only songs I can't play (or haven't yet tried to) are Mayonaise, Spaceboy, Sweet Sweet and Luna. I know all I want to from Mellon Collie. I'm fucked if I'm learning a double album :haha
:haha That's pretty impressive, just a few songs left :D I know bits of Mellon Collie, but learning the whole album would be epic. On Siamese Dream I know in full:
Mayonaise
Today
Spaceboy
Geek USA
Disarm

I know bits of:
Cherub Rock
Rocket
Silverfuck
Sweet Sweet

[Squall142]

^I'm always to lazy to finish learning the songs hah.

Though, I can't exactly play Geek USA's solo now hah

[funkinbrooklyn]

^I'm always to lazy to finish learning the songs hah.

Though, I can't exactly play Geek USA's solo now hah

You posted the 1979th reply in the smashing pumpkins thread

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/TheBushBayPilot/UG1979.jpg

EDIT: But yeah about the Smashing Pumpkins, I have just completed getting all the albums and I havebeen listenin to Machina loads recently. I think the atmosphere of that album is unique aobe all the other SP albums. It relaly gets under your skins with great songs like Standing Inside Your Love, The Everlasting Gaze, Raindrops + Sundrops, I of the Mourning and Try Try Try.

The best SP songs IMO are:

Cherub Rock: The first song off there second album Siamese Dream. Crashes in after a light clean sounds then BOOOM!! the power of the big muff pi comes into play and the hypnotic sound of the chords and riffs combine to make a 10/10 classic rock song. The solo is top notch and is nothing I have ever heard before.

Tonight Tonight: After the opening theme song on the Melloncolly comes an intense, magical introduction which builds up to the drop into the chorus. I think its is the best example of SP's abillity to transcend into any catagory of rock and influences. The decoration of the snare rolls just completes the classic SP formulae. Great lyrics, Guitar and drums.

Appels + Oranjes: This is the best work of Billy Corgan when he decided to take SP into concentrating on song writting. The drum machine with the ambient synths and Billy's softer side of his singing comes together to create a driving upbeat 3:35 minutes of something that doesn't follow the typical SP sound. Great transcend from wailing guitars and rollin drums to soft electro song writting.

[Squall142]

^I :heart: you for that, seriously

[Zero-Hartman]

That's awesome, really is. I gave SP the 33rd love on Bebo, but it's nothing compared to that beast.

[Nightwatchman10]

hahahha well done Squall!! :D

[steve_muse]

lol funkinbrooklyn: you have a good eye lol

And I agree with you on all those songs, Tonight Tonight got me started with the pumpkins.
I can't really decide on a favourite song(s). It really is too hard, and I drift between albums very frequently so I'll never really have a favourite.

But as I was listening to some SD yesterday, I would have to say Silver**** is the top in my books at the momment.

[Nightwatchman10]

I got into them after seeing them on The Simpsons YEARS ago and thinking "hmm I'll look them up"

FELL IN LOVE WITH THEM THAT NIGHT :D

[steve_muse]

^lmao, Yeah I still have to see that episode lol. Is it really Billy's voice in it though?

[supergerbil]

^lmao, Yeah I still have to see that episode lol. Is it really Billy's voice in it though?

Yeah, its got D'arcy's voice in it it aswell, where homer goes on about being kicked out of the audio visual club.

[Squall142]

All of them were on that episode :) James and Jimmy got a line.

Billy: "I'm jealous of you Homer, all we have is our youth, our fans and our millions of dollars.... WHOO HOO!"
James: "Let's go buy fur coats!"

[Nightwatchman10]

All of them were on that episode :) James and Jimmy got a line.

Billy: "I'm jealous of you Homer, all we have is our youth, our fans and our millions of dollars.... WHOO HOO!"
James: "Let's go buy fur coats!"



hahahaha yeah! thats my fave episode

[Zero-Hartman]

I got into them after seeing them on The Simpsons YEARS ago and thinking "hmm I'll look them up"

FELL IN LOVE WITH THEM THAT NIGHT :D
Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins.
Homer Simpson, smiling politely.

:haha awesome episode :D

[cundinamarca89]

aw, that's such a classic episode!
i love it. :)

[Zero-Hartman]

"And Sonic Youth keep stealing my food!"

[Nightwatchman10]

"And Sonic Youth keep stealing my food!"


hahahaha :D aww man i love it

[Squall142]

Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins.
Homer Simpson, smiling politely.

:haha awesome episode :D

Did you know it was supossed to be Courtney Love in the episode originally? It was gonna go:

Courtney: Wow, I'm a big fan! I'm Courtney, Countney Love!
Homer: Thank you! I'm Homer, Homer greatful!

Or something like that

[Zero-Hartman]

Did you know it was supossed to be Courtney Love in the episode originally? It was gonna go:

Courtney: Wow, I'm a big fan! I'm Courtney, Countney Love!
Homer: Thank you! I'm Homer, Homer greatful!

Or something like that
Yea I read that somewhere, she was going to say something about being in a band called Hole, and that would lead unto a humorous joke.

Edit: Why the fuck did I say that like a bible verse?

[Squall142]

^You're gonna go Christian in your next life? I dunno hahaha.

And I'm glad Billy and Co came, it was funnnny

[Zero-Hartman]

My favourite episode of The Simpsons, and with the best Simpsons theme tune courtesy of Sonic Youth :)

[Squall142]

^I loved the Grunge one with the Nirvana parody myself

[Zero-Hartman]

The Greenday one was quite good actually too

*prepares meticulously, the flameshield*

[Squall142]

Green Day... You mean the movie one? Yeah, that was cool.

And I like Green Day! *Takes your flame shield and throws it in the river*

[Zero-Hartman]

*hugs Squall*

...

*Awkward silence ensues*

Wait, where did this river come from?