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skatooter
02-16-2006, 11:01 AM
im learning wonderful world by louis armstrong so how do you play Gm7/C?

SilentDeftone
02-16-2006, 11:04 AM
e|--1-----
B|--3-----
G|--3--0--
D|--5--8--
A|--3--8--
E|-----8--
A couple ways to play it.

-SD :dance:

seljer
02-16-2006, 11:05 AM
something like x33333

controlfreak
02-16-2006, 11:26 AM
or
x33363

stringzzz
02-16-2006, 11:41 AM
---3---
---3---
---3---
---3---
---3---
--------


--------
---8---
---10--
---8---
--------
---8---


--------
---11--
---10--
---10--
--------
--------

skatooter
02-16-2006, 11:48 AM
i think control freak has it on the buzzer, cheers for the help people also....what is this chord....C7b9?

viciodk
02-16-2006, 11:55 AM
C7b9 = 1 3 (5) b7 b9 = C E (G) Bb Db

The most common voicing is probably this one:


e|--(0)-- E
B|---2--- Db
G|---3--- Bb
D|---2--- E
A|---3--- C
E|-------

stringzzz
02-16-2006, 12:17 PM
---3---
---5---
---3---
--------
---4---
--------


this would be cool with your voicing choice for Gm7/C

psychodelia
02-16-2006, 04:00 PM
For C7b9, i might play

-9-
-8-
-9-
-8-
-X-
-X-

I sometimes don't play the root, because the bass is usually playing it anyway.

seljer
02-16-2006, 04:13 PM
---3---
---5---
---3---
--------
---4---
--------


this would be cool with your voicing choice for Gm7/C

since when does Gm7/C have a C# in it??? and an E??

SilentDeftone
02-16-2006, 04:16 PM
^ C7b9.

I did the same thing earlier ;)

-SD :dance:

seljer
02-16-2006, 04:46 PM
ah, my mistake. the "would work with" as in "its not on the other end of the fretboard"

thrashfordeath
02-16-2006, 06:07 PM
e----X----
B----6----
G----3----
D----5----
A----3----
E----X----

im thinking thats right. please correct me if im wrong.

stringzzz
02-16-2006, 10:57 PM
since when does Gm7/C have a C# in it??? and an E??




that's not a C# it's a Db ;)


that's my 7b9 chord , but i think you caught that already.

stringzzz
02-16-2006, 11:34 PM
For C7b9, i might play

-9-
-8-
-9-
-8-
-X-
-X-

I sometimes don't play the root, because the bass is usually playing it anyway.


i just noticed , your voicing and mine are also dim7th chords



-3-
-5-
-3-
-x-
-4-
-x-

viciodk
02-17-2006, 06:39 AM
^ You might find this interesting :)

http://www.posido.net/diminishedtriadreplacement.htm

stringzzz
02-17-2006, 01:40 PM
^ You might find this interesting :)

http://www.posido.net/diminishedtriadreplacement.htm



thank you!

i just printed it off.

psychodelia
02-17-2006, 02:29 PM
i just noticed , your voicing and mine are also dim7th chords



-3-
-5-
-3-
-x-
-4-
-x-

Yes they are, which makes it easy, as you can cover all 12 7b9 chords using 3 chromatically spaced voicings (for someone who wonders what this means, our voicings have 4 notes that in a closed voicing would each be a minor third from the next chord tone. Therefore, depending on which note is your "root", or in this case whichever note is your b9, you can call this chord 4 different 7b9s.)

psychodelia
02-17-2006, 02:32 PM
^ You might find this interesting :)

http://www.posido.net/diminishedtriadreplacement.htm

I love all of this crazy replacement stuff, it just seems to open up writing so much more.

Butch Price
02-17-2006, 03:53 PM
I love all of this crazy replacement stuff, it just seems to open up writing so much more.


Congards!!!! It's what jazzers have been doing for years for chord melodies with closed tight voicing and comping with a band .Playing all the notes isn't necassaryThe diminished and the augmented are subs for altered chords
(chords with a b5 or 9 or #5 or 9).and is pages of expalantion but ..trust me?.heheheehaw!!

The original chord of this post is just a C over a Bb to me. ?yep the root is expendable for the most part. This chord is morel C11 than Gmi7/C.Check out the tune ?I can't make you love? me by Bonnie Raitt for a cool pop use.

1st Verse:
[Cmaj7]Turn down the
[Bm7/E]lights,
[Bm7]Turn down the
[Cmaj7]bed

The Bmi 7th/E is really a E11 or easier a D major with E in bass. In this case it's the bass player bass notes since Bmi7 is also a D major but with a B in the bass.

The great jazz pianist Bill Evans(Miles Davis) is known for his stacked triads to create extensions. Of course keyboard voicing is much more versatile than fretboard.Small intervals are easier(way easy!!) where on the guitar they are harder.

Here?s a triad trick to work on .Every closed voicing Major, Minor and Diminished triad can be made from the 3(that?s right ...there?s only 3 shapes) of the augmented triad by altering one note up or down one fret. That?s how jazz guys get all those moving lines on one chord and connect so smoothly.Good luck..have fun!

Butch P

stringzzz
02-17-2006, 06:30 PM
if you take dim7th chord and lower any of its tones a half step, you get a 7th chord who's root is the note you lowered down to.


example:


-3-
-2-
-3-
-2-
-x-
-x-


-3-
-1-
-3-
-2-
-x-
-x-

dim7 becomes C7

viciodk
02-18-2006, 12:20 PM
I love all of this crazy replacement stuff, it just seems to open up writing so much more.
This is a great source for learning things like that:
http://chrisjuergensen.com.hosting.domaindirect.com/lessons.htm

It is by far my favourite site for lessons :)

Especially take a look at the following lessons:

http://chrisjuergensen.com.hosting.domaindirect.com/tritone_substitutions.htm
http://chrisjuergensen.com.hosting.domaindirect.com/chords3.htm