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Arc4ne
03-13-2006, 10:13 PM
Hey guys...

I'm going to guitar center this weekend to buy my first acoustic.. Before I go to the store, I'd like some recommendations on some acoustics ya'll already own. I've played my friend's Ibanez Acoustic and it has decent tone. I'm not looking for uber best tone but decent enough to play songs with in the $200-$350 range.

Thanks

clarkson456
03-13-2006, 10:16 PM
Alvarez. You can get an amazing sounding guitar from Alvarez, and for that price. RD-8 is the model I have and I haven't played many other guitars with a better sound.

SZpenguin13
03-13-2006, 10:20 PM
i thought alvarez we're expensive as hell, ehh maybe im wrong, most ibanez acoustics are pretty good too

moe_d
03-13-2006, 10:27 PM
Another acoustic recommendation thread!

Honestly, best guitar in the price range is a Yamaha FG700S
an Alvarez RD20S or a Seagull S6.

fsb_ben
03-14-2006, 01:14 AM
Yup i agree.. Yamaha fg700s is the best for the $. If u can afford it, get the Yamaha fg730s.. the body is rosewood instead of nato.

Arc4ne
03-14-2006, 07:12 AM
Yup i agree.. Yamaha fg700s is the best for the $. If u can afford it, get the Yamaha fg730s.. the body is rosewood instead of nato.

What's the difference between a rosewood and a nato body? Just better tone I presume?

clarkson456
03-14-2006, 08:00 AM
i thought alvarez we're expensive as hell, ehh maybe im wrong, most ibanez acoustics are pretty good too


As with most any brand there are very expensive guitars, but they also have cheaper guitars, the RD-8 that I suggested cost me about $300.

moe_d
03-14-2006, 11:09 PM
What's the difference between a rosewood and a nato body? Just better tone I presume?

Nato is similar to mahogony (good midrange notes) but sounds a bit more muddy.
Rosewood is more bassy and its good clarity in high notes.

Iluvpowerchords
03-14-2006, 11:12 PM
Alvarez. You can get an amazing sounding guitar from Alvarez, and for that price. RD-8 is the model I have and I haven't played many other guitars with a better sound.

The RD-8 is excellent.

I own it.

Arc4ne
03-15-2006, 12:05 AM
The RD-8 is excellent.

I own it.

Thanks guys! So far I've gathered that I should aim for the following guitars:

Alvarez RD8 - $219.99
Yamaha FS700S - $199.99
Yamaha FS730S - $299.99
Seagull S6 - $359.99
ALvarez RD20S - $329.99

I'll start playing these guitars once I get to GC this weeekend. should there be any other candidates in this group?

wcbcruzer
03-18-2006, 01:43 AM
Hey I'm about to buy an acoustic too... But I was hoping to keep it under $200. So what would you say is the best bang for buck guitar? I want steel strings. I also want to take the guitar everywhere I go.. In other words, like my "beater" guitar, so I can just pull it out of my trunk and start playing in the parking lot. thanks.

TopherEllis
03-18-2006, 02:26 AM
you want something you feel comfortable playing. if you are new to the acoustic world, this might be awkward, but i suggest sitting down with candidate guitars and getting a feel for them. Everyone has different taste, and of course price is a constraint. My personal first acoustic was a Washburn D10SB. I liked this guitar because of the action on it. It was easy to play for someone who didnt have strong fingers. Take those guitars mentioned into consideration they are nice. My suggestion sit down and feel what feels right. Good Luck.

fsb_ben
03-18-2006, 05:37 AM
Hey I'm about to buy an acoustic too... But I was hoping to keep it under $200. So what would you say is the best bang for buck guitar? I want steel strings. I also want to take the guitar everywhere I go.. In other words, like my "beater" guitar, so I can just pull it out of my trunk and start playing in the parking lot. thanks.

Yamaha FG700s because:

1) its $199 but u can talk down the price
2) its solid top spruce
3) its low action
4) it has great resonance and volume.

wcbcruzer
03-18-2006, 08:58 AM
Alright, thanks people. Looks like the Yamaha FG700s has some good reviews. What's the difference between that and the FS700s? Apparently I can get the Washburn D10SB for $199 too... Actually, I kinda like the black color finish on the Washburn. Is this a good deal:

http://shop.mobro.net/browse.cfm/4,6205.htm


Where can I get the best deal on any of these guitars? Thanks!

Arc4ne
03-20-2006, 12:12 AM
Just to tell everybody... I finally purchased the Yamaha FG730S yesterday for $299.99 .

I'm in love with it. Thanks for the reviews!

moe_d
03-20-2006, 12:24 PM
Great choice!!!
I would have got that but I didn't have money..
So I ended up with FG700S

JnPtsmkn420
03-20-2006, 03:33 PM
wow you guys get all technical in buying guitars and everything, with the types of woods and all that, I just went to Daddy's Junky Music and sat down for a good day and played almost every acoustic there was in the store, I picked the one I liked the most, felt the most comfortable, and fit me basically. let the guitar do the picking

fsb_ben
03-20-2006, 06:19 PM
Just to tell everybody... I finally purchased the Yamaha FG730S yesterday for $299.99 .

I'm in love with it. Thanks for the reviews!


LOL awesome! moe_d has the 700s, you have the 730s and i have the 750s. We should start a club :-) Congrats tho man, u own a kick ass guitar!

wcbcruzer
03-20-2006, 07:02 PM
Thanks for your responses... And thanks fsb_Ben for your pm. I was leaning towards the FG700s earlier today and now I'm pretty certain that's what I want to get. I checked some more reviews and comparisons on it as well. Yamaha seems to have a lot of people's vote for an entry level guitar. My friend has an entry level Yamaha acoustic and it just sounds awesome!

Ferrets!
03-20-2006, 08:53 PM
You may still want to go with an Alvarez. Some of them may be a tad bit out of your price range, but trust me, they're worth it. I managed to get a new RD-8C Alvarez at a pawn shop for $125. I prefer it over the RD8 because it has the cut-away so you can play higher up the neck. It's probably one of the best acoustics I've ever played. It has a great sound, relatively low action, a sturdy, well made body, and it can be plugged into in amp.

wcbcruzer
03-20-2006, 11:38 PM
Ok then.. I'll get the Alvarez RD8C... I like the acoustic/electric feature and I found a good price. Everyone else agree?

By the way, out of the RD8C and FG700s, which has lower action? If a guitar has higher action, does that mean I could put slinkier strings on it? So it feels more like an electric? I like the super slinky strings on my electric...

moe_d
03-21-2006, 12:19 AM
Well yea, the RD8C, has got an acoustic/electric feature, but it has a laminate top so the sound wont improve with age and wont resonate as good as oppose to a solid top (FG700S) where you get good resonance a sound that will improve with age.

My FG700S has pretty low action, very playable and comfortable guitar, with great loud sound, clarity in high notes, and sustain on notes that go forever.

Desk Jocky
03-21-2006, 02:51 PM
Well yea, the RD8C, has got an acoustic/electric feature, but it has a laminate top so the sound wont improve with age and wont resonate as good as oppose to a solid top (FG700S) where you get good resonance a sound that will improve with age.

My FG700S has pretty low action, very playable and comfortable guitar, with great loud sound, clarity in high notes, and sustain on notes that go forever.
Action can be adjusted easily and inexpensively later. Don't worry about the action from the factory.
DJ

aMeRiCaNsTrAt21
03-22-2006, 12:30 AM
Soo... Which is in the lead? the Alverex RD-8 or Yamaha FG700s? Im looking to buy an acoustic around 200 dollars too! keep the recomendations coming!

aMeRiCaNsTrAt21
03-22-2006, 12:31 AM
EDIT: The alverez also comes with a hardshell case so thats a good addition that the Yamaha does not have!

wcbcruzer
03-24-2006, 03:39 PM
Well, the hardcase can be bought seperately for any guitar... I think I'm just going to get whichever I get a better deal on. Both FG700s and RD8C seem to be a good choice.

jimtaka
03-24-2006, 05:01 PM
surprised to see that nobody mentioned the takamine gs330s.

i think you should give that one a strum also when choosing. it was the first guitar i ever bought. i think i paid like $219.99 for it. i've bought several guitars since then including some higher end takamines and a martin d35 but for some reason i still just love that gs330s. quite possibly my favorite guitar that i've ever played. if you wanna get technical it has a solid cedar top and nato sides and back with a rosewood fretboard. i really like the tone of the cedar top. very warm and rich. i also like the looks of the cedar top. it is a little bit darker color wood and that makes it really stand out compared to 95% of everyone elses guitars (being that i'd say about 95% of most peoples guitars are spruce tops).

just something else to think about!

silentdud
03-24-2006, 05:33 PM
dont listen to people they are stupid... dont get one of the guys who work in the store to play the guitar.... bring a friend or ask another shopper to... you dont know anything so they are just going to pick your pocket like no other.... and manipulate the way they play and what they play. ... also everyone has their own idea of what a good guitar sounds like.

moe_d
03-24-2006, 08:56 PM
IMO, FG700S has MUCH better features than the RD8.

Hey silentdud, as soon as I read your "dont listen to people they are stupid", I just stopped reading the rest. We are recommending him some guitars, not telling him what to buy.

wcbcruzer
03-25-2006, 06:37 PM
Yeah, there is a wide variety of opinion about which guitar to get... Yet, as a newbie, when I walk into a guitar store I have no clue about what sux or what is known as a "better" guitar. So thanks for all your advice.. Finals just ended... Woo! So today I'm gonna try to go to Guitar Center and check out a few.

fsb_ben
03-25-2006, 07:50 PM
EDIT: The alverez also comes with a hardshell case so thats a good addition that the Yamaha does not have!

That just means the Alverez needed a hardcase to make it more attractive to sellers. (Same logic applies to those guitars that come in a buncha different colours).. hence why u dont see high end guitars coming in blueburst :-P

The Yamaha fg700s doesn't need extra's to sell because its such a damn nice guitar that it sells all by itself.

wcbcruzer
03-25-2006, 11:03 PM
Alright guys... I just got back from Guitar Center. I ended up getting the Yamaha FG735s! Very nice guitar and sounds excellent for the price! I'm loving it so far.

moe_d
03-26-2006, 12:16 AM
FG735S??
I though only FG730 existed.

wcbcruzer
03-26-2006, 02:58 AM
FG735S??
I though only FG730 existed.

Yeah, FG735S.. That's weird, I just ran a search on google and I didn't see any FG735S's. Maybe it's new :confused:? Anyway, here are some pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/wcbcruzer/Yamaha.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/wcbcruzer/YamahaFG735s.jpg

moe_d
03-26-2006, 01:51 PM
Nice!!! **** i should have got a FG730S!! Theres some pics of my FG700s in the sticky "which acoustic" thread.

Post a pic of the back if you can.

wcbcruzer
03-26-2006, 04:02 PM
Ok here are some more pics, I hope it doesn't fill up the thread too bad :D...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/wcbcruzer/Yamaha2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/wcbcruzer/Yamaha3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/wcbcruzer/Yamaha5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/wcbcruzer/Yamaha1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/wcbcruzer/Yamaha4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/wcbcruzer/Yamaha6.jpg

fsb_ben
03-26-2006, 04:33 PM
Whoa wtf FG735s?! What kinda woods is it made of? Anyway, another FG'er!!

We have an FG 700s, 730s, 735s and 750s on this forum LOL.

Nice pics tho.. i think urs is the only guitar with gold tuners and the circle around ur sound hole is different as well.. its all shiny (forgot wut that style is called) whereas all the other ones are tortoise.

Very nice find man.. be happy cuz thats a guitar that not many ppl will have! Its not even on Yamaha's website!

How much did u get it for?

wcbcruzer
03-26-2006, 10:00 PM
Thanks guys... The list price was $500. I paid $349.99 + tax for it brand new... I know it's more than what I initially was going to spend but after playing a whole bunch of guitars, this one just seemed like the best bang for buck. It sounded as good as some $600 guitars. The $100-$200 guitars just couldn't compete and most of them were made out of plastic (painted to look like wood) on the sides and back. But the FG700s was probably the only one in that price range that still sounded pretty awesome... They didn't even have any Alvarez at Guitar Center so I never got a chance to play the RD8C.

I forgot what kind of wood it's made out of and actually I would like to know as well. The guy told me but I forgot... What's the FG730s made out of?

moe_d
03-26-2006, 10:37 PM
It's rosewood body and sitka spruce on the top.

FYI, I think I may have found the diffrent between FG730S and FG735S
Yours has gold tuners and cream binding while the 730 has nickel tuners and white binding. I dunno if thats only it.

the_experience
03-26-2006, 11:21 PM
yeah....definitely take a look at some Yamaha's. Not the "Jap Crap" that everyone assumes them to be.

fsb_ben
03-27-2006, 04:05 AM
Thanks guys... The list price was $500. I paid $349.99 + tax for it brand new... I know it's more than what I initially was going to spend but after playing a whole bunch of guitars, this one just seemed like the best bang for buck. It sounded as good as some $600 guitars. The $100-$200 guitars just couldn't compete and most of them were made out of plastic (painted to look like wood) on the sides and back.

I forgot what kind of wood it's made out of and actually I would like to know as well. The guy told me but I forgot... What's the FG730s made out of?

U should definately find out what kinda wood its made out of! Its absolutely integral information whenever people ask about ur guitar.. and u dont wanna say "I dunno :-P" when they do ask.

wcbcruzer
03-27-2006, 05:32 AM
U should definately find out what kinda wood its made out of! Its absolutely integral information whenever people ask about ur guitar.. and u dont wanna say "I dunno :-P" when they do ask.

Tru... Now I know it's made out of Rosewood on the body and spruce on top. It's still got that fresh wood smell inside... I don't want to lose it!

jimtaka
03-27-2006, 06:37 PM
i'm guessing the top is spruce but it's really hard to tell. the back and sides look to be rosewood from the pictures.... which is nice. i'd say you made a good choice based on looks alone anyway!

redsoxfan
04-04-2006, 09:41 AM
I also have a 735s from guitar center. Nice guitar for the price. The difference between the 730s is that the 730s has sycamore sides & back, while the 735s has rosewood sides & back. Both have SOLID spruce tops. Tuners differ in color (Gold for 735, nickel for 730) and also, the sunburst finish on the 735s vs the clear spruce 730s.

I wish Yamaha would print specs for their corporate packages. They don't make getting the information easily; but, here it is anyway. I hope this helps.

moe_d
04-04-2006, 10:53 AM
No both 730 and 735 have rosewood backs.. The european website has wrong info on the guitar, saying that its sycamore instead its supposed to be rosewood.

fsb_ben
04-04-2006, 12:34 PM
yeah my FG750s has sycamore back and sides and the colour is waaaaaaaaaaay lighter than the fg 730s/735s

jimtaka
04-04-2006, 02:52 PM
yeah the guitar in those pictures has rosewood sides and back... not sycamore.

redsoxfan
04-05-2006, 09:42 AM
the wood in these pictures is rosewood. that is a 735s.

it is the 730s which has the sycamore sides.

check out yamaha's website, or the million reviews on the 730s, or musician's friend to see the sycamore detailed.

I have a friend with a 730s. it is lighter. you are right. He greeted me with a bit of jealousy when he saw my new 735s. Rosewood is not quite as bright, but the lows are great.

fsb_ben
04-05-2006, 12:00 PM
Yeah Yamaha's website says the FG730s has rosewood back and sides: click (http://www.yamaha.com/guitars/products/productdetail/0,,CNTID%253D60092%2526CTID%253D600014%2526CNTYP%253DPRODUCT,00.html)

FG750s (http://www.yamaha.com/guitars/products/productdetail/0,,CNTID%253D60094%2526CTID%253D600014%2526CNTYP%253DPRODUCT,00.html) is the one with sycamore back and sides.

Btw, rosewood is much MUCH brighter sounding than sycamore. Its most likely that both of you have rosewood on ur guitars as both are FG73(x)s's

reviews about the FG730s (says rosewood) (http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/Yamaha/FG_730S-1.html)

I'd like to see some websites that says otherwise :-P

moe_d
04-05-2006, 04:34 PM
as I said, the european websites made a mistake on the FG730S information on the back and sides.. its supposed to be rosewood. unless they are sycamore in europe which i doubt!

redsoxfan
04-06-2006, 10:17 AM
check out this link, and also look at the sides. The wood clearly has a different (Less visible) grain, and is much lighter in color.

Just because it was intended for the european market does not mean that they will end up there.

As I said, my frind has one who visits here regularly. it is not the rosewood that he has on his 730s. his looks exactly like the one on the page below.




http://www.imuso.co.uk/directory/reviews/acoustic-guitar-reviews/yamaha-fg-730.htm

jimtaka
04-06-2006, 10:28 AM
i honestly couldn't care less about this little argument everyone is having about the materials but on this (http://www.imuso.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?StockCode=AG00233) site it says that "the FG730S is the only model in the new FG range to feature rosewood laminate back and sides."

seriously though the guitar in that picture that you linked to is obviously rosewood, not sycamore. you can tell by looking at it. just look at the friggin thing and quit being mildly retarded. and if you don't know what rosewood or sycamore looks like then quit arguing people. this is all absurd.

moe_d
04-06-2006, 10:57 AM
check out this link, and also look at the sides. The wood clearly has a different (Less visible) grain, and is much lighter in color.

Just because it was intended for the european market does not mean that they will end up there.

As I said, my frind has one who visits here regularly. it is not the rosewood that he has on his 730s. his looks exactly like the one on the page below.




http://www.imuso.co.uk/directory/reviews/acoustic-guitar-reviews/yamaha-fg-730.htm

That guitar clearly has rosewood back and sides.

That website is relying on information based on the Yamaha european website, which is wrong.

This (http://www.yamaha.com/guitars/products/productdetail/0,,CNTID%253D60094%2526CTID%253D600014%2526CNTYP%253DPRODUCT,00.html) is the FG750S which has Sycamore sides and back.

And I quote from that your link:
"The sycamore back and sides have a strong vertical "tiger-stripe" graining that varies from a mocha-brown to a shade so dark that it is almost black. Very, very nice. "

Sycamore is not dark, it's like a blond color. (fsb_ben post a pic of your guitar if you can)
Rosewood is what they described as "mocha-brown" and "almost black".

moe_d
04-06-2006, 11:01 AM
Oh yeah, and all FG models whether its the 730 or 700 or whatever have the same type of top which is sitka spruce.

fsb_ben
04-06-2006, 12:32 PM
Its quite clear redsoxfan has no idea wut he's talking about.. nor does he have experience w/ different woods. A website can be wrong u know.

Here are some pics of the my FG750s (sycamore back and sides):

http://xa9.xanga.com/af981b055956846739103/b31512000.jpg

http://x7d.xanga.com/520b63151903046739147/b31512032.jpg

http://x8a.xanga.com/6e1b621519c3046739164/b31512045.jpg

http://x9e.xanga.com/251b70102113046739235/b31512101.jpg

http://x1e.xanga.com/7d5b73152023146739203/b31512076.jpg

http://xb7.xanga.com/ab4b9a152223246739298/b31512151.jpg


Notice how much LIGHTER the color of the wood is vs. rosewood. That last pic was from a digicam but the other ones i just took w/ my cell phone cam (hence the **** quality) buuuuuuut u get the idea.

Anyway, the site u linked, redsoxfan, isn't anything close to yamaha's official site! Any freakin idiot can write a review and.. well it looks like some have.


This is from yamaha's website ok:

FG750s
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/Guitars/Product/Main/P_FG750S.jpg

FG730s
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/Guitars/Product/Main/P_FG730S.jpg


Notice the extreme different colored backs/sides. Anyway i challenge you to take a picture of your friend's guitar and prove us all wrong. But until then, you are the one that's wrong.

jimtaka
04-06-2006, 12:34 PM
hopefully that will put this to rest.

moe_d
04-06-2006, 04:15 PM
wow fg750s looks like a nice guitar!

jimtaka
04-06-2006, 04:18 PM
^-- agreed, that thing looks sweet

fsb_ben
04-06-2006, 07:54 PM
indeed :-) That last pic makes the back and sides look like it was made outta valure hahah