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Berlioz96
04-25-2003, 11:12 PM
Okay, I'll type out the Tab of a chord, and its up to YOU GUYS to name it. Whoever names it correctly gets to post the next chord.

Here goes-
e-13-|
B-12-|
G-13-|
D-12-|

think11270
04-25-2003, 11:17 PM
is it a g flat??

RainDog
04-25-2003, 11:18 PM
Its a d diminished seventh , or d fully diminished seventh.

-2--
-1--
-2--
-2--
-0--
---

schlepper
04-25-2003, 11:34 PM
Am6

3
1
0
3
3
x

RainDog
04-25-2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by schlepper
Am6

3
1
0
3
3
x
Nope, Am#6, from A dorian mode, but close.

schlepper
04-25-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by RainDog
Nope, Am#6, from A dorian mode, but close.

nevermind yeah cause in Am the 6th is flattened right so to make it F# it would be #6 right, im farly new to this

thebeave10
04-26-2003, 12:18 AM
Ddim

Berlioz96
04-26-2003, 10:28 PM
Okay...
This one-

e-8-|
B-8-|
G-7-|
D-6-|
A-x-|
E-6-|

BMX_punk86
04-26-2003, 10:29 PM
A# or something close??

Berlioz96
04-26-2003, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by BMX_punk86
A# or something close??
You got the A# part right, but what kind of A# is it. Its not major and its not diminished.

thebeave10
04-26-2003, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Okay...
This one-

e-8-|
B-8-|
G-7-|
D-6-|
A-x-|
E-6-|

It's A#13

RainDog
04-26-2003, 10:52 PM
A#13

Berlioz96
04-27-2003, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by RainDog
A#13
Correct.
One of you guys make one.

casualty01
04-27-2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by thebeave10
It's A#13

actually, no ...
its an A#9 add13 .... also written as A9 (13)

or Bb9 add13

there would need to be an 11 in there for it to be a full A#13 or Bb13. but there's no 11, so the 13 is an add.


Cas-:peace:

casualty01
04-27-2003, 03:27 PM
well, seeing as how raindog was incorrect, and he's not online anymore. i'll go :D


E-----
B--9--
G--6--
D--10-
A--8--
E-----

Cas-:peace:

beatallica_fan
04-27-2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
well, seeing as how raindog was incorrect, and he's not online anymore. i'll go :D


E-----
B--9--
G--6--
D--10-
A--8--
E-----

Cas-:peace:

Dbmaj7/F, ok heres a chord from my tune, Beatfunk.


E--9--
B--9--
G--8--
D--7--
A--x--
E--7--

casualty01
04-27-2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
Dbmaj7/F, ok heres a chord from my tune, Beatfunk.


E--9--
B--9--
G--8--
D--7--
A--x--
E--7--

B9 add13


yall love that chord ;)

w00t my turn


E--5--
B--5--
G--4--
D--5--
A-----
E-----


Cas-:peace:

rising_fury
04-27-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
Dbmaj7/F, ok heres a chord from my tune, Beatfunk.


E--9--
B--9--
G--8--
D--7--
A--x--
E--7--

Bb13?

benjmc
04-27-2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by casualty01



E--5--
B--5--
G--4--
D--5--
A-----
E-----


Cas-:peace:

E-11/G

Couldn't be ****ed with making a chord...Cas' turn again

beatallica_fan
04-27-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
B9 add13


yall love that chord ;)

w00t my turn


E--5--
B--5--
G--4--
D--5--
A-----
E-----


Cas-:peace:

Id call that G6/sus2. Heres another for Cas to nail in a matter of seconds


E-----
B--5--
G--4--
D--7--
A--6--
E-----

casualty01
04-27-2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
Id call that G6/sus2. Heres another for Cas to nail in a matter of seconds


E-----
B--5--
G--4--
D--7--
A--6--
E-----

B7 add11/D#


E-----
B--3--
G--4--
D--3--
A--x--
E--5---

Cas-:peace:

dmal
04-27-2003, 04:22 PM
3rd inversion of Bmin7b5

e----x
B----3
G----3
D----4
A----x
E----6

casualty01
04-27-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by dmal
3rd inversion of Bmin7b5

e----x
B----3
G----3
D----4
A----x
E----6

Bb augmented , D augmented, or F# augmented


E-9--
B-X--
G-8--
D-4--
A-X--
E-7--

Cas-:peace:

benjmc
04-27-2003, 04:42 PM
Badd9...dang


E-7-
B-5-
G-5-
D-x-
A-7-
E-0-


Heh heh, ;)

casualty01
04-27-2003, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by benjmc
Badd9...dang


E-7-
B-5-
G-5-
D-x-
A-7-
E-0-


Heh heh, ;)

Cmaj7 add2/E

Cas-:peace:


E----
B--9-
G--7-
D--7-
A--9-
E----

Cas-:peace:

beatallica_fan
04-27-2003, 05:02 PM
Thats Dadd#4/F#

Heres mine, the names bond, james bond!


e---
b-7-
g-8-
d-9-
a-10-
e-0-

casualty01
04-27-2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
Thats Dadd#4/F#

Heres mine, the names bond, james bond!


e---
b-7-
g-8-
d-9-
a-10-
e-0-


well, could be several things...... cause there's several triads in there.

if looking at it as E being the root. then its an
Emin/maj9 thats it's strongest tonality, so i'd call it that.
coming from the 4th mode of Hamonic Major (aka. melodic minor #4)

but, if you looked at it as B being the root. it would be a
Bmaj add4/b6 ........ comes from 1st mode of Harmonic Major. nice chord :cheers:

but, you could also view it as an augmented, since there's a Gaug triad in there. in that case, it would be a G+maj7 add6 (or you could call it Gmaj7#5 add6 ) .......... but most people would take that to incinuate that there's a natural 5th in there. which there isn't.

so the strongest one is the first one. the Emin/maj9.




E--4--
B--4--
G--6--
D--7--
A--0--
E--7--



Cas-:peace:

dmal
04-27-2003, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
well, could be several things...... cause there's several triads in there.

if looking at it as E being the root. then its an
Emin/maj9 thats it's strongest tonality, so i'd call it that.
coming from the 4th mode of Hamonic Major (aka. melodic minor #4)

but, if you looked at it as B being the root. it would be a
Bmaj add4/b6 ........ comes from 1st mode of Harmonic Major. nice chord :cheers:

but, you could also view it as an augmented, since there's a Gaug triad in there. in that case, it would be a G+maj7 add6 (or you could call it Gmaj7#5 add6 ) .......... but most people would take that to incinuate that there's a natural 5th in there. which there isn't.

so the strongest one is the first one. the Emin/maj9.




E--4--
B--4--
G--6--
D--7--
A--0--
E--7--



Cas-:peace:

A7aug/B


e--x--
B--7--
G--6--
D--5--
A--0--
E--x--

casualty01
04-28-2003, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by dmal
A7aug/B


e--x--
B--7--
G--6--
D--5--
A--0--
E--x--


sorry, wrong answer. but your chord is an A7 add13 ;)

Cas-:peace:

dmal
04-28-2003, 02:41 PM
the correct answer is B9add13
(with assistance ;) )

cas, you need to post a chord, since you answered last

:cheers:

casualty01
04-28-2003, 03:03 PM
will do.


ok, first, a little explenation. as chords arent always root position (functioning as chords where the bass note sets the quality) , or sometimes don't even include the root, it's good to know what chords can be substituted for other chords. for example, if a progression calls for an A-7. you don't have to play an A-7, you can just as well play a Cmaj triad, because the bass is gonna be handling that Amin bass line. if you combine an Amin chord (A-C-E) with a Cmaj triad (C-E-G) you get an Amin7 (A-C-E-G). SO, THINK SUBSTITUTION. and pay attention to the bassline im gonna post.

repeating bassline. 1/4 notes.

G|o-------------------------o|
D|-------9-------------------|
A|----11---11--9--7----------|
E|o-9----------------7--8---o|

Voicing.

E-----
B--7--
G--8--
D--9--
A--7--
E-----

ok, so, knowing that my chord is a substitution, and taking into consideration the bassline underneath the chord.

name that chord......

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
04-28-2003, 03:59 PM
Its E6/9 I believe.

Try this one, its a tricky one!
e|-4-|
B|-4-|
G|-6-|
D|-7-|
A|-7-|
E|-5-|
(The 5 on the E is optional, as you have to use your thumb to play it, but it gives the chord a better sound if you play it....now that's a hard one there!)
The bassline would sound something like this-

G|----------6--------|
D|------7----7------|
A|-6--7--6----7-6-|
E|---5-----5--------|

dmal
04-28-2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Its E6/9 I believe.


Try this one, its a tricky one!
e|-4-|
B|-4-|
G|-6-|
D|-7-|
A|-7-|
E|-5-|
(The 5 on the E is optional, as you have to use your thumb to play it, but it gives the chord a better sound if you play it....now that's a hard one there!)

G#/E

Berlioz96
04-28-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by dmal
G#/E Nope. Guess again.

dmal
04-28-2003, 04:10 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Berlioz96
[B]Its E6/9 I believe.

I believe that it would be C#min13

read cas's post. The Bassline is used in the chord.

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

dmal
04-28-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Nope. Guess again.

oops, haha

G#/A

benjmc
04-28-2003, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Its E6/9 I believe.

Try this one, its a tricky one!
e|-4-|
B|-4-|
G|-6-|
D|-7-|
A|-7-|
E|-5-|
(The 5 on the E is optional, as you have to use your thumb to play it, but it gives the chord a better sound if you play it....now that's a hard one there!)


A E C# D# G#....A7 +b12...something like that.

Berlioz96
04-28-2003, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by benjmc
A E C# D# G#....A7 flat5...something like that.
Okay, enough mindless guessing, I'll tell u guys-

Eb13b9b5

benjmc
04-28-2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Okay, enough mindless guessing, I'll tell u guys-

Eb13b9b5


I changed my 'guess' now cos the D# is in a higher octave...

Now...are you high? ;)

dmal
04-28-2003, 04:29 PM
that's what i would say

A7b12

Sorry about the wrong answers earlier, I looked at it at a glance.
I gotta slow down.


:cheers:

casualty01
04-28-2003, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Its E6/9 I believe.

nope ....... incorrect...... wrong..... and all that other self-esteem destroying goodness.

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
04-28-2003, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by dmal
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Berlioz96
[B]Its E6/9 I believe.

I believe that it would be C#min13



nope, sorry. very very close though. theres no 13 ;)

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
04-28-2003, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
nope ....... incorrect...... wrong..... and all that other self-esteem destroying goodness.

Cas-:peace:
That's okay, I wasn't 100% sure anyway. And no, I'm not high. Can't be, have rehab in like 20 minutes.

casualty01
04-28-2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Okay, enough mindless guessing, I'll tell u guys-

Eb13b9b5

um, sorry, but your chord is just an Amaj7 add#11 ....... thats it. lol

Cas-:peace:

dmal
04-28-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
nope, sorry. very very close though. theres no 13 ;)

Cas-:peace:

C#min11

more rushing on my part :(

casualty01
04-28-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by dmal
C#min11

more rushing on my part :(

atta girl ;)

Cas-:peace:


oh, and berlioz, if it's an Eb anything, it's an Eb7sus4 (#11/b9)/A
or Eb7sus4 (b5/b9)/A

dmal
04-28-2003, 05:07 PM
If I had 20 inch fingers, here's what I would play:

e--3--
B--10--
G--20--
D--21--
A--2
E--12

have fun, I don't even know what to call it yet

casualty01
04-28-2003, 05:11 PM
thats an Emin/Maj7 add11

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
04-28-2003, 05:19 PM
E--0---
B--0---
G--5---
D--0---
A--3---
E--2---


Cas-:peace:

dmal
04-28-2003, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--0---
B--0---
G--5---
D--0---
A--3---
E--2---


Cas-:peace:

Cmaj7add2/F#

casualty01
04-28-2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by dmal
Cmaj7add2/F#

:cheers: would've accepted that or D9 add13/F# (as it does have a stronger Dominant sound than the maj7) but you're correct :D

Cas-:peace:

dmal
04-28-2003, 07:50 PM
e------
B--11--
G--10--
D--12--
A--10--
E--11--

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

casualty01
04-28-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by dmal

e------
B--11--
G--10--
D--12--
A--10--
E--11--

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Ebmaj9

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
04-28-2003, 09:12 PM
forgot a chord .......


E-7---
B-7---
G-7---
D-7---
A-7---
E-----


will accept 2 answers.

Cas-:peace:

elmonoswereuliv
04-28-2003, 09:24 PM
jesus how the **** do u guyz no so much theory?

Berlioz96
04-28-2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
forgot a chord .......


E-7---
B-7---
G-7---
D-7---
A-7---
E-----


will accept 2 answers.

Cas-:peace:
D6/9

or

Am13

Try this.
e----|
B----|
G-3-|
D-3-|
A-4-|
E-6-|

casualty01
04-28-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
D6/9

or

Am13

no and no

Originally posted by Berlioz96

Try this.
e----|
B----|
G-3-|
D-3-|
A-4-|
E-6-|

Bb minor

Cas-:peace:

beatallica_fan
04-29-2003, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by casualty01
forgot a chord .......


E-7---
B-7---
G-7---
D-7---
A-7---
E-----


will accept 2 answers.

Cas-:peace:

Bmin11/E or D6/E perhaps????

dmal
04-30-2003, 02:35 PM
are you gonna post a chord, beat?
:D

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

beatallica_fan
04-30-2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by dmal

e------
B--11--
G--10--
D--12--
A--10--
E--11--

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Emaj9????? I dont get it, Eb G D F and Bb, i cant possibly see how that makes Emaj9, with D being the 7th of Eb major and F the 2nd i presume you meant Ebmaj9. Anyway i havent posted a chord because i wasnt sure i was correct but seeing as noone has screamed an objection here ya go.

]
e--4---
B--6--
G--6--
D--7--
A--x--
E--5--

loves.squier
04-30-2003, 06:43 PM
how do you know all this!?

monkeyguy629
04-30-2003, 08:26 PM
Alright yo, it's on now. Hope you don't mind my butting in but I just learned this...


--
-7-
-6-
-6-
-7-
-6-


You betta watch yoself.

Wuv,
Jacob

Haha by the way... which forum shuold this go under...

casualty01
04-30-2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
Emaj9????? I dont get it, Eb G D F and Bb, i cant possibly see how that makes Emaj9, with D being the 7th of Eb major and F the 2nd i presume you meant Ebmaj9.

yes, i meant Ebmaj9 ya picky bastad ;) ............... my every move is being watched and graded :( lol


Originally posted by beatallica_fan
Anyway i havent posted a chord because i wasnt sure i was correct but seeing as noone has screamed an objection here ya go.

i'll accept it :p:, i was looking for B-7/E or Esus. but Bmin11/E is cool. slthough if i wanted to be picky, it should be Bmin7 add4/E or add11 ;)

Originally posted by beatallica_fan

e--4---
B--6--
G--6--
D--7--
A--x--
E--5--


Amaj7 #5 , or Amaj7+

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
04-30-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by monkeyguy629
Alright yo, it's on now. Hope you don't mind my butting in but I just learned this...


--
-7-
-6-
-6-
-7-
-6-


You betta watch yoself.

Wuv,
Jacob

Haha by the way... which forum shuold this go under...

musician talk ........

answer: Bb-7 b5 addb13

Cas-:peace:

monkeyguy629
05-01-2003, 08:35 AM
It?s probably right? I forgot to mention it was supposed to be pushed up 11 frets? (11? not 12) cause I?m stupid and don?t mention these things? which in that case it woulda been an A-flat m 7th flatted 5th? oh right? moving?

Wuv,
Jacob

mrdeetag
05-01-2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by casualty01
yes, i meant Ebmaj9 ya picky bastad ;) ............... my every move is being watched and graded :( lol




Cas-:peace:

Thats cuz YOUR THE MAN!!!
;)

Ya just love this don't ya Cas??
:cheers:

casualty01
05-01-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by mrdeetag
Thats cuz YOUR THE MAN!!!
;)

Ya just love this don't ya Cas??
:cheers:

yes :D ... this is definitley my favorite thread right now :haha :haha


Cas-:peace:

casualty01
05-01-2003, 12:02 PM
E-----
B--6--
G--5--
D--4--
A--X--
E--5--


the answer for root position will be fine.

but for extra credit :p:. this chord can be used as an altered 7th chord for 2 different cadences ( V-I progression) . name one of the V chords this could be functioning as ?

Cas-:peace:

shadowhunter486
05-01-2003, 02:08 PM
Am6 add #5

Berlioz96
05-01-2003, 04:07 PM
Sounds like an D9#11/A....not sure though...
anyway, try this one-


e|-13-|
B|-13-|
G|-13-|
D|-13-|
A|-x--|
E|-13-|

casualty01
05-01-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
Am6 add #5

correct on the root position name.


anyone wanna take a stab at my "extra credit" substitution naming ?

Cas-:peace:


ps. oh, shadowhunter, post a chord now.

casualty01
05-01-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Sounds like an D9#11/A....not sure though...
anyway, try this one-


e|-13-|
B|-13-|
G|-13-|
D|-13-|
A|-x--|
E|-13-|


F-7

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
05-01-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
F-7

Cas-:peace:
Yeah...F-7=Fminor7 for those of you who don't know.....
Try this one-

e|---|
B|-5-|
G|-4-|
D|-3-|
A|-4-|
E|---|

Berlioz96
05-01-2003, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by loves.squier
how do you know all this!?
We listen to music with real chords, not just power chords. And we take lessons, duh, goober. (I seem to have a bad habit of calling Loves.Squier a goober....hehe)

casualty01
05-01-2003, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Yeah...F-7=Fminor7 for those of you who don't know.....
Try this one-

e|---|
B|-5-|
G|-4-|
D|-3-|
A|-4-|
E|---|


Db7 #9

or

C#7 #9

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
05-01-2003, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
Db7 #9

or

C#7 #9

Cas-:peace:
I believe so.....
this one?


e|-3-|
B|-3-|
G|-2-|
D|-0-|

casualty01
05-01-2003, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
I believe so.....
this one?


e|-3-|
B|-3-|
G|-2-|
D|-0-|


Dsus4

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
05-02-2003, 09:52 AM
E--9---
B--9---
G--9---
D--9---
A--13--
E--9---

Cas-:peace:

beatallica_fan
05-02-2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--9---
B--9---
G--9---
D--9---
A--13--
E--9---

Cas-:peace:

C#m13, on the wild assumption thats correct here ya go.

]
E--5---
B--6---
G--7---
D--5---
A--x--
E--6--

casualty01
05-02-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
C#m13, on the wild assumption thats correct here ya go.

]
E--5---
B--6---
G--7---
D--5---
A--x--
E--6--

C#m13 is cool. C#m7 add6 to be exact. don't forget that octave rule ;)


and yours is Bbmaj7 add6 or Gmin9 (first inversion, which could be written G-9/Bb) depending on whats be played underneath of it. but strictly from root position, it's BbMaj7 add6


E--7--
B--9--
G--9--
D-10--
A--0--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

shadowhunter486
05-02-2003, 02:36 PM
im posting a chord now. sorry i didnt know the rules of this thread.



e|x
B|x
G|x
D|5
A|7
E|6

give inversion too.

Berlioz96
05-02-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
im posting a chord now. sorry i didnt know the rules of this thread.



e|x
B|x
G|x
D|5
A|7
E|6

give inversion too.

Is it A# Half Diminished?
Or maybe F something?

Anyway, try this one out-


e|-4-|
B|-4-|
G|-3-|
D|-6-|
A|-6-|
E|-6-|


Hint: there are two names for this chord.

casualty01
05-02-2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
im posting a chord now. sorry i didnt know the rules of this thread.



e|x
B|x
G|x
D|5
A|7
E|6

give inversion too.


E diminished. (2nd inversion.) so it could be written Eo/Bb


Cas-:peace:

casualty01
05-02-2003, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96

Anyway, try this one out-


e|-4-|
B|-4-|
G|-3-|
D|-6-|
A|-6-|
E|-6-|


Hint: there are two names for this chord.

actually, there's 3 :p:

root position = Bb7 sus4
1st inversion = Eb sus4/Bb
2nd inversion = Ab sus2/Bb

:cheers:

Cas-:peace:

benjmc
05-02-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by casualty01


E--7--
B--9--
G--9--
D-10--
A--0--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

With assistance on correct chord naming....


Amin/maj9

now post another

casualty01
05-02-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by benjmc
With assistance on correct chord naming....


Amin/maj9

now post another

lol, ok ...


E-10--
B--9--
G--9--
D-10--
A-----
E-----

Cas-:peace:

benjmc
05-02-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
lol, ok ...


E-10--
B--9--
G--9--
D-10--
A-----
E-----

Cas-:peace:

C+add9

benjmc
05-02-2003, 08:11 PM
E-0-------
B-0-------
G-2-------
D-0-------
A-2-------
E-3-------

I'll make up another too...



[code]
E-10-------
B-5-------
G-9-------
D-5-------
A-7-------
E--------

Have fun...

casualty01
05-03-2003, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by benjmc

E-0-------
B-0-------
G-2-------
D-0-------
A-2-------
E-3-------



G add9/13

Originally posted by benjmc
I'll make up another too...



E-10-------
B-5-------
G-9-------
D-5-------
A-7-------
E--------

Have fun...

Cmaj lol

EDIT: due to a dumb mistake on my part, i answered incorrectly (EDIT: TWICE!! :mad:) beat however caught my error, which resulted in the correct answer lol ....... the answer is E-7


Cas-:peace:

beatallica_fan
05-03-2003, 03:58 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by benjmc




E-10-------
B-5-------
G-9-------
D-5-------
A-7-------
E--------

Have fun... [/B][/QUOTE

Cadd9/E

casualty01
05-03-2003, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by benjmc




E-10-------
B-5-------
G-9-------
D-5-------
A-7-------
E--------

Have fun... [/QUOTE

Cadd9/E [/B]

der , well don't i feel like the dumbass lol.... i was playing the C (8th fret) instead of D (10th fret) :bonk:

:cheers: beat.

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
05-03-2003, 08:47 PM
and yet, i did it again.....*sigh*

seeing as how theres no C in that chord, it's a plain ol' E-7

i gotta stop rushing, that was a dumb mistake on my part :(

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
05-04-2003, 03:41 PM
Try this one-


e|-0-|
B|-0-|
G|-1-|
D|-2-|
A|-2-|
E|-0-|

:rolleyes:

casualty01
05-04-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Try this one-


e|-0-|
B|-0-|
G|-1-|
D|-2-|
A|-2-|
E|-0-|

:rolleyes:

lol, Emaj


E--0--
B--2--
G--2--
D--0--
A--x--
E--2--


this is an inversion. one answer .......

Cas-:peace:

beatallica_fan
05-04-2003, 05:33 PM
Dmaj9/F#

--0
--0
--2
--4
--3
--0

casualty01
05-04-2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
Dmaj9/F#

--0
--0
--2
--4
--3
--0

strongest function = F#-7 b5 add11

as a C chord it's a Cmaj7 add6/#4

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
05-05-2003, 03:40 PM
Try this one!

D|-2-|
G|-1-|
A|-2-|
E|-1-|

casualty01
05-05-2003, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Try this one!

D|-2-|
G|-1-|
A|-2-|
E|-1-|


i hope the
D
G
A
E
was just a typing error.

well it's a Lydian dominant chord (4th mode of melodic minor), and it could be an F7 add #11. or a B7 add#11/F

depends if it's functuioning as a tritione sub. neither one really has a stronger function. as they're both the same exact chords.
so it's oneof those 2 . depending on what the bass players playing.



Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
05-06-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
i hope the
D
G
A
E
was just a typing error.

well it's a Lydian dominant chord (4th mode of melodic minor), and it could be an F7 add #11. or a B7 add#11/F

depends if it's functuioning as a tritione sub. neither one really has a stronger function. as they're both the same exact chords.
so it's oneof those 2 . depending on what the bass players playing.



Cas-:peace:
It wasn't an error. I just was too lazy to put the hi e and B strings, but you're right.

benjmc
05-06-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
It wasn't an error. I just was too lazy to put the hi e and B strings, but you're right.

Then you've restrung your guitar really oddly, :S...

EADGBE EADGBE EADGBE

casualty01
05-06-2003, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
It wasn't an error. I just was too lazy to put the hi e and B strings, but you're right.

it wasn't an error ?

the strings on your guitar go E A G then D ?

wierdo :p:

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
05-07-2003, 11:44 AM
E--0--
B--5--
G--9--
D--X--
A--7--
E--0--


Cas-:peace:

beatallica_fan
05-07-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--0--
B--5--
G--9--
D--X--
A--7--
E--0--


Cas-:peace:

lmao, E, is that even a chord?????

]
E--3--
B--6--
G--5--
D--6--
A--3--
E--x--

casualty01
05-07-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
lmao, E, is that even a chord?????

:p: .. just a pedal or droned E :cheers:

Originally posted by beatallica_fan


E--3--
B--6--
G--5--
D--6--
A--3--
E--x--


F- add9/C



E--x--
B--6--
G--7--
D--6--
A--x--
E--7--


although this may look like one chord, it's actually functioning as a V chord (actually it could be several V chords) give me one of them ;)

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
05-07-2003, 03:34 PM
Sounds like Ab Minor7 or something similar....but it has kind of a diminished sound...I may be wrong though....


e|-7-|
B|-9-|
G|-8-|
D|---|
A|---|
E|---|


Try this one. The root in not in the chord. Its basically a piece of a larger chord.

beatallica_fan
05-07-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
:p: .. just a pedal or droned E :cheers:



F- add9/C



E--x--
B--6--
G--7--
D--6--
A--x--
E--7--


although this may look like one chord, it's actually functioning as a V chord (actually it could be several V chords) give me one of them ;)

Cas-:peace:

Looks like a plain old Bdim (or G#dim, D dim and Fdim) to me. Berlioz yours could be part of Emaj7, G#min, B6 or Fmin7b5. Im sure theres loads more, if the root isnt in that portion id say Emaj7 or Fmin7b5

Berlioz96
05-07-2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
Looks like a plain old Bdim (or G#dim, D dim and Fdim) to me. Berlioz yours could be part of Emaj7, G#min, B6 or Fmin7b5. Im sure theres loads more, if the root isnt in that portion id say Emaj7 or Fmin7b5
Mine's F#min.

casualty01
05-07-2003, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96
Mine's F#min.

lol..... what ? it's not F# anything, if there's an F# implied root, then it's an F# 6/9 sus4

other than that, it would simply be a G# minor, but , seeing as how you said the root isn't in the chord, than beats correct with E maj7

Cas-:peace: .......


ps. yah beat, it's a dim chord, but what V chord/chords could it/would it functio as?

beatallica_fan
05-08-2003, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by casualty01
lol..... what ? it's not F# anything, if there's an F# implied root, then it's an F# 6/9 sus4

other than that, it would simply be a G# minor, but , seeing as how you said the root isn't in the chord, than beats correct with E maj7

Cas-:peace: .......


ps. yah beat, it's a dim chord, but what V chord/chords could it/would it functio as?

F#min, lmao, i think Berlioz needs to check out the theory lesson at the top of this forum. Im stuck on what V chord the diminished chord can function as, please explain Doug.

courtneytaylor
05-08-2003, 10:18 AM
wow, this is the scaryist thread that i have ever seen.

hey, heres one for ya:rolleyes:

e----0-----------------------------
b----0-----------------------------
g----0-----------------------------
d----0-----------------------------
a----0-----------------------------
E----0-----------------------------

casualty01
05-08-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
F#min, lmao, i think Berlioz needs to check out the theory lesson at the top of this forum. Im stuck on what V chord the diminished chord can function as, please explain Doug.

ok, well, a dim7th chord is usually (in jazz, progressive, fusion) used as a substitute for a 7b9 chord (it could be used to substitute several different ones, seeing as how dim7ths are symetrical and repeat every b3rd away). if you look at the chord i posted



E--x--
B--6--
G--7--
D--6--
A--x--
E--7--


you'll see it resembles an A#7


E--x--
B--6--
G--7--
D--6--
A--x--
E--6--


only thing is, the root of the dim7th chord is the b9 of the dom7th a 1/2 step below it. so, seeing as how the bass player would be outlining the dom7, you can feel free to just play the dim7th a 1/2 step above, even though it doesn't have the root in the chord.

A#7 = A#-C##-E#-G#

A#7b9 = A#-B-C##-E#-G#

Bdim7 = B-D (C##)- F (E#)- Ab (G#)

so you see, the Bdim7 has all the same notes as the A#7 b9 chord, except the actual A#.

so, the Bdim, functioning as an A#7b9 would work great to resolve to a D#maj7 , or even a D#min, or D#min/maj7. as long as it's reolving to the I chord of the implyed 7b9 chord. (D# being the I chord of A#7)

as for the symmetry of dim7th's, you know that Bdim7 is the same exact chord as Ddim7, Fdim7, and Abdim7. so, if the dim7th can equal 4 chords, then the same exact dim7th can also be used to imply 4 different 7 b9 chords.

the quickest way to figure out what four 7b9 chords that a dim7th could be used in place of, would be to take each note of the Dim chord at hand, and find the note a 1/2 step below each chord tone.

notes in the Bdim7th = Bdim7 = B-D-F-Ab
since the dim7th chord is symetrical, we know all the notes in the one dim7th = their own dim7th.

and since a dim7th substitutes for a dom7 b9 chord a 1/2 step below, go a half step down from each one of those notes, and you'll find the root of it's implied Dom7b9 chord.

Bdim7 = A#7 b9 (or Bb7 b9)
Ddim7 = C#7 b9 (or Db7 b9)
Fdim7 = E7 b9
Abdim7 = G7 b9

now, that doesn't mean you have to play a root position Dim7 chord to substitute for the 7b9 chord a 1/2 step below it.
what i mean is..... seeing as how it's all symetrical. i could simply play that original voicing of Bdim7 to substitute for all those seperate 7b9 chords.

isn't that grand ? 1 vocing = 8 seprate chords *giggle* ..... so play that chord on 3 consecutive frets, and you've just played every dim7th chord, and every dom7b9 chord :D

to see exactly what i mean, lets look at one voicing. and transform that 1 voicing into 4 different Dom7th chords (yes, just regular ol' dom7th's )



E------------- E------------- E------------- E-------------
B--6---6------ B--6---6------ B--6---6------ B--6---5------
G--7---7------ G--7---7------ G--7---6------ G--7---7------
D--6---6------ D--6---5------ D--6---6------ D--6---6------
A--x---x------ A--x---x------ A--x---x------ A--x---x------
E--7---6------ E--7---7------ E--7---7------ E--7---7------


you can see, that 1 voicing of a dim7th chord, by lowering each note 1 half step each time from the same voicing of the dim7th.
creates 4 different 7th chords. in their various inversions. notice the note thats lowered always gets lowered down to the root of the dom7th chord that it turns into.

so, if you can see that, than you can more clearly see the dim7th/dom7 b9 relationship


hope that answered your question man, thats the first time i tried explaining anything that complex on a message board lol, so if i left any holes or just wasn't clear on something, or any other questions. don't hesitate to ask......

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
05-08-2003, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by courtneytaylor
wow, this is the scaryist thread that i have ever seen.

hey, heres one for ya:rolleyes:

e----0-----------------------------
b----0-----------------------------
g----0-----------------------------
d----0-----------------------------
a----0-----------------------------
E----0-----------------------------

E-7 add4 ........ or E-7 add11 some people would write it as.

Cas-:peace:

beatallica_fan
05-08-2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
ok, well, a dim7th chord is usually (in jazz, progressive, fusion) used as a substitute for a 7b9 chord (it could be used to substitute several different ones, seeing as how dim7ths are symetrical and repeat every b3rd away). if you look at the chord i posted



E--x--
B--6--
G--7--
D--6--
A--x--
E--7--


you'll see it resembles an A#7


E--x--
B--6--
G--7--
D--6--
A--x--
E--6--


only thing is, the root of the dim7th chord is the b9 of the dom7th a 1/2 step below it. so, seeing as how the bass player would be outlining the dom7, you can feel free to just play the dim7th a 1/2 step above, even though it doesn't have the root in the chord.

A#7 = A#-C##-E#-G#

A#7b9 = A#-B-C##-E#-G#

Bdim7 = B-D (C##)- F (E#)- Ab (G#)

so you see, the Bdim7 has all the same notes as the A#7 b9 chord, except the actual A#.

so, the Bdim, functioning as an A#7b9 would work great to resolve to a D#maj7 , or even a D#min, or D#min/maj7. as long as it's reolving to the I chord of the implyed 7b9 chord. (D# being the I chord of A#7)

as for the symmetry of dim7th's, you know that Bdim7 is the same exact chord as Ddim7, Fdim7, and Abdim7. so, if the dim7th can equal 4 chords, then the same exact dim7th can also be used to imply 4 different 7 b9 chords.

the quickest way to figure out what four 7b9 chords that a dim7th could be used in place of, would be to take each note of the Dim chord at hand, and find the note a 1/2 step below each chord tone.

notes in the Bdim7th = Bdim7 = B-D-F-Ab
since the dim7th chord is symetrical, we know all the notes in the one dim7th = their own dim7th.

and since a dim7th substitutes for a dom7 b9 chord a 1/2 step below, go a half step down from each one of those notes, and you'll find the root of it's implied Dom7b9 chord.

Bdim7 = A#7 b9 (or Bb7 b9)
Ddim7 = C#7 b9 (or Db7 b9)
Fdim7 = E7 b9
Abdim7 = G7 b9

now, that doesn't mean you have to play a root position Dim7 chord to substitute for the 7b9 chord a 1/2 step below it.
what i mean is..... seeing as how it's all symetrical. i could simply play that original voicing of Bdim7 to substitute for all those seperate 7b9 chords.

isn't that grand ? 1 vocing = 8 seprate chords *giggle* ..... so play that chord on 3 consecutive frets, and you've just played every dim7th chord, and every dom7b9 chord :D

to see exactly what i mean, lets look at one voicing. and transform that 1 voicing into 4 different Dom7th chords (yes, just regular ol' dom7th's )



E------------- E------------- E------------- E-------------
B--6---6------ B--6---6------ B--6---6------ B--6---5------
G--7---7------ G--7---7------ G--7---6------ G--7---7------
D--6---6------ D--6---5------ D--6---6------ D--6---6------
A--x---x------ A--x---x------ A--x---x------ A--x---x------
E--7---6------ E--7---7------ E--7---7------ E--7---7------


you can see, that 1 voicing of a dim7th chord, by lowering each note 1 half step each time from the same voicing of the dim7th.
creates 4 different 7th chords. in their various inversions. notice the note thats lowered always gets lowered down to the root of the dom7th chord that it turns into.

so, if you can see that, than you can more clearly see the dim7th/dom7 b9 relationship


hope that answered your question man, thats the first time i tried explaining anything that complex on a message board lol, so if i left any holes or just wasn't clear on something, or any other questions. don't hesitate to ask......

Cas-:peace:

Thats fantastic thanks Doug, and amazingly i pretty much understand it all. My only question doesnt really apply to the theory rather than the process of actually putting it into practise. As weve spoken about im really trying to improve my jazz playing, but its not easy when i dont have a band to jam with. I would have thought that the b9 (in this case B) may clash somewhat with the bass being rooted around Bb, or would the bass players playing retain a similar ambiguity (best word i can think of) to prevent this, i mean i know any jazz bassist wouldnt simply pump out root notes but i would thought a clash may occur, especially as the b9th is so low on the register of the guitar.

casualty01
05-10-2003, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
Thats fantastic thanks Doug, and amazingly i pretty much understand it all. My only question doesnt really apply to the theory rather than the process of actually putting it into practise. As weve spoken about im really trying to improve my jazz playing, but its not easy when i dont have a band to jam with. I would have thought that the b9 (in this case B) may clash somewhat with the bass being rooted around Bb, or would the bass players playing retain a similar ambiguity (best word i can think of) to prevent this, i mean i know any jazz bassist wouldnt simply pump out root notes but i would thought a clash may occur, especially as the b9th is so low on the register of the guitar.

well, to answer your question........ yes! :D. it might clash a bit, at times, but thats not neccesarily a bad thing. seeing as how the sound of dominant 7ths, diminished and any altered dominant chords (Dom7 b9, Dom #9, Alt etc..) all have inherently unstable sounds, you can pretty much make them as unstable and clashing as you like, as long as you resolve them well. it's all in the resolution.

and seeing as how bass players (jazz bassists) love to play tri-tone subs, and passing tones, as well as roots your Bdim (A#7b9) might wind up "sounding" like any of the other 4 dim7/ 7b9 chords. seeing as how they can all function as the same chords, you're basically playing in 4 tonalities all at the same time. the progression won't get messed up or anything, it'll just sound differently than what you intended. maybe prettier, maybe harsher and more dissonant than you had expected. but that can be a great thing :)

thats one of the reasons i love jazz, the spontaneity of it.

Cas-:peace:

beatallica_fan
05-10-2003, 11:29 AM
Thanks Cas, for anyone else who may be interested in this stuff i found this site very useful, http://www.guitarmain.com/

casualty01
05-10-2003, 09:02 PM
well....... to keep it going.


E-----
B--5--
G--7--
D--4--
A--7--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

RainDog
05-11-2003, 01:13 AM
Esus

RainDog
05-11-2003, 01:57 AM
no, E7sus2

casualty01
05-11-2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by RainDog
no, E7sus2
atta girl ;)

*claps*

ok, post a chord :)

Cas-:peace:

RainDog
05-11-2003, 04:36 PM
--
-9-
-7-
-8-
-6-
---

casualty01
05-11-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by RainDog
--
-9-
-7-
-8-
-6-
---

Eb maj7 add11



E--0--
B--9--
G--8--
D--9--
A--9--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

Snyper
05-11-2003, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by casualty01




E--0--
B--9--
G--8--
D--9--
A--9--
E-----


Cas-:peace:
Emaj9/F# ????
:cheers:

casualty01
05-11-2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Snyper
Emaj9/F# ????
:cheers:

http://www.freeadpower.org/~mrsmiles/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif ...........what the fuck are you doing in here ?! :confused:

oh yeah ... um, you are correct.

although, Emaj7/F# or Emaj7 add2/F# also would have been excepted.

Cas-:peace:

Snyper
05-11-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
http://www.freeadpower.org/~mrsmiles/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif ...........what the fuck are you doing in here ?! :confused:

oh yeah ... um, you are correct.

although, Emaj7/F# or Emaj7 add2/F# also would have been excepted.

Cas-:peace:
w00t i own
so i guess its my turn to post one

E---8---
B---8---
G---8---
D--12---
A--10---
E---8---

:cheers:

casualty01
05-12-2003, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by Snyper
w00t i own
so i guess its my turn to post one

E---8---
B---8---
G---8---
D--12---
A--10---
E---8---

:cheers:

Cmin add9



E--x---
B--4--
G--5--
D--6---
A--x---
E--6---


Cas-:peace:

Snyper
05-12-2003, 04:50 AM
Abmaj/Bb


E---x---
B---x---
G--10---
D---6---
A---6---
E---7---

:cheers:

casualty01
05-12-2003, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by Snyper
Abmaj/Bb


E---x---
B---x---
G--10---
D---6---
A---6---
E---7---

:cheers:

F-7/B (or it could be written F-7 add#4/B)

strongest triadic function is G#- add13/B

both work well, but 7th chords take precedence over triads, so the first one is most accurate.

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
05-12-2003, 05:33 AM
E--0---
B--8---
G--11--
D--9---
A--x---
E--10--


Cas-:peace:

Phat @ss
05-12-2003, 07:05 AM
ok i have a few chords i really need help with naming.. (thats if they actually are chords)

CHORD 1 CHORD 2 CHORD 3 CHORD 4

e|-----0--- -----0----- -----0----- -----0-----
B|-----0--- -----0----- -----8----- -----5-----
G|-----4-- -----4----- -----0----- -----4-----
D|-----2--- -----2----- -----9----- -----5-----
A|-----4--- -----0----- -----X----- -----3-----
E|---------- ----------- -----0----- -----X-----


please name as many as you can,, i dont know em!

cheers
:cheers:

beatallica_fan
05-12-2003, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Phat @ss
ok i have a few chords i really need help with naming.. (thats if they actually are chords)

CHORD 1 CHORD 2 CHORD 3 CHORD 4

e|-----0--- -----0----- -----0----- -----0-----
B|-----0--- -----0----- -----8----- -----5-----
G|-----4-- -----4----- -----0----- -----4-----
D|-----2--- -----2----- -----9----- -----5-----
A|-----4--- -----0----- -----X----- -----3-----
E|---------- ----------- -----0----- -----X-----


please name as many as you can,, i dont know em!

cheers
:cheers:

Chord 1 C#min7

Chord 2 A sus 2

Chord 3 E min

Chord 4 Cmaj7

Cas you have me stumped, i was thinking D something but the 2 and 4 being in there has confused me, help!

shadowhunter486
05-12-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--0---
B--8---
G--11--
D--9---
A--x---
E--10--


Cas-:peace:

E minor 9th/D, i think


E--5---
B--0---
G--0--
D--4---
A--5---
E--x--


its hard to think of chords like this off the top of my head

casualty01
05-12-2003, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
Cas you have me stumped, i was thinking D something but the 2 and 4 being in there has confused me, help!

well, take a look at the notes and see what order they line up in strongest. D-B-F#-G-E they can stack in 3rds from G, G-B-D-F# .. with E being a 6th. so it could be a G chord. but theres another starting point that allows all the notes to be stacked in order of 3rds. and that's from E... E-G-B-D-F#, which gives us an Emin9/D

so the Emin9 would be strongest, but either or, would be correct.

Originally posted by shadowhunter486
E minor 9th/D, i think

yup, you got it man :cheers:

i also would've accepted Gmaj7 add6/D

Originally posted by shadowhunter486


E--5---
B--0---
G--0--
D--4---
A--5---
E--x--


its hard to think of chords like this off the top of my head

Gmaj9/D

or, if you want the name from the root position, it's a D6 add4

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
05-12-2003, 08:19 PM
e|-8-|
B|-8-|
G|-7-|
D|-6-|
A|-x-|
E|-6-|

its not a 13th chord.....well, not exactly....

casualty01
05-12-2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96

e|-8-|
B|-8-|
G|-7-|
D|-6-|
A|-x-|
E|-6-|

its not a 13th chord.....well, not exactly....

no, but it's a Bb9 add13 ;)


oooor ........ are you looking for Gmaj7 (#4)/Bb ?

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
05-12-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
no, but it's a Bb9 add13 ;)

Actually, I was looking for Bb7 9/13 but that answer is perfectally acceptable.

beatallica_fan
05-13-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Berlioz96

e|-8-|
B|-8-|
G|-7-|
D|-6-|
A|-x-|
E|-6-|

its not a 13th chord.....well, not exactly....

That is the 3rd or fourth time that chord has been posted, 2nd time by you berlioz, it dont get any harder to answer. Lets ban 9add13 chords from this thread, at least that voicing.

casualty01
05-13-2003, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
That is the 3rd or fourth time that chord has been posted, 2nd time by you berlioz, it dont get any harder to answer. Lets ban 9add13 chords from this thread, at least that voicing.

agreed.

oh, and berlioz. it wouldn't be written as Bb7 add9/13 .....

the b7 is present along with the 9, so only 9 would be written. when seeing just a 9 after a letter, like Bb9 , that tells you that a b7 is present.

you only write add9 if theres no 7th. like if it were just 1-3-5-9. because of the break in the harmonic order of strengths (the missing 7th)

since there was a b7, then it's written Bb9 add13.

Cas-:peace:

shadowhunter486
05-13-2003, 03:09 PM
e|-12-|
B|-11-|
G|-12-|
D|-11-|
A|-x-|
E|-x-|


not tough. but it was on one of my music theory worksheets. and i decided to tab it out.

casualty01
05-13-2003, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486

e|-12-|
B|-11-|
G|-12-|
D|-11-|
A|-x-|
E|-x-|


not tough. but it was on one of my music theory worksheets. and i decided to tab it out.

Db Diminished, G diminished, Bb Diminished or E diminished.

whichever you like ;)

but, strictly from the lowest note in that voicing, then it's Db Diminished (or C# Diminished)

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
05-13-2003, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by beatallica_fan
That is the 3rd or fourth time that chord has been posted, 2nd time by you berlioz, it dont get any harder to answer. Lets ban 9add13 chords from this thread, at least that voicing.
Seriously.....sorry, I tend to forget things and be repetive.....no ban, just no more using this voicing....:rolleyes:

I_Love_Guitar
05-13-2003, 03:52 PM
i havent guessed any chords but im still gonna post one.


E--4----
B--5---
G--6---
D--7---
A--5----
E-------

casualty01
05-13-2003, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by I_Love_Guitar
i havent guessed any chords but im still gonna post one.


E--4----
B--5---
G--6---
D--7---
A--5----
E-------


Amaj7/D

Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
05-14-2003, 04:13 PM
Make this a sticky, its a fun and educational game that hasn't been closed......and plus, not only being fun, popular, and educational, and related to guitar, ITS POSTED BY ME! :rolleyes:

casualty01
05-14-2003, 09:52 PM
E-----
B--5--
G--6--
D--6--
A--5--
E-----

thebassmaster
05-15-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E-----
B--5--
G--6--
D--6--
A--5--
E-----


c#minor add b2, though i originally said c#minor add2, but got a bit of help :p:

E--6--
B--6--
G--8--
D--6--
A--9--
E--6--

gnr8801
05-15-2003, 05:55 PM
Rather than make a new thread, it makes sense to put it in here, but what is this chord?

e--
B-5
G-6
D-7
A-7
E--

I saw it in the tab on here for Led Zeppelin - Living Loving Maid. It's labeled as an "A" but it looks to me that the root note is a "E"

Could you guys help me out? Thanks :cheers: :cheers:

shadowhunter486
05-15-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by gnr8801
Rather than make a new thread, it makes sense to put it in here, but what is this chord?

e--
B-5
G-6
D-7
A-7
E--

I saw it in the tab on here for Led Zeppelin - Living Loving Maid. It's labeled as an "A" but it looks to me that the root note is a "E"

Could you guys help me out? Thanks :cheers: :cheers:

its an A/E. meaning its in 2nd inversion.

gnr8801
05-15-2003, 08:29 PM
Oh, thanks man :cheers:

casualty01
05-16-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by thebassmaster
c#minor add b2, though i originally said c#minor add2, but got a bit of help :p:

E--6--
B--6--
G--8--
D--6--
A--9--
E--6--


after a little help ? who the hell helped you with that? .....

could it be called that in some off chance ? kind of. if you wanted to call it that, you'd have to type it as C#-/D ooooorrr........ C#- addb2/D

however, thats not what the chord is. look at the damn thing man, come on. it has a root, 3rd, and b7 of E. hence it's some kind of E Dominant chord. the left over note is the 6th (or 13th) so this chord is strongest and is best named an E7 add6 orrrr...... E7add13.

your chord is an F#Maj7 (2/6)/A# (although you might also see it written as, F#maj7 (6/9)/A# or F#maj7 (9/13)/A#........... and you'll probably also see it just written as a plain old F#maj13... ) but the first one i gave you is most accurate.

Cas-:peace:

thebassmaster
05-16-2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
after a little help ? who the hell helped you with that? .....

:

bah, im learning.... give me a break :peace:

casualty01
05-19-2003, 03:41 PM
E--3--
B--3--
G--5--
D--6--
A--6--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

dmal
05-19-2003, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--3--
B--3--
G--5--
D--6--
A--6--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

Ab7 add#11

it seems too easy to be right
what did I screw up?
:p:

casualty01
05-19-2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by dmal
Ab7 add#11

it seems too easy to be right
what did I screw up?
:p:

only one thing........remember, a letter with just a 7 after it, tells you that theres a b7 in the chord ........... is that the case here? ;)

Cas-:peace:

schlepper
05-20-2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--3--
B--3--
G--5--
D--6--
A--6--
E-----


Cas-:peace:


so im a little slow at this maybe AbMaj7 add 11?

if im close props go to dmal if not i just suck

casualty01
05-20-2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by schlepper
so im a little slow at this maybe AbMaj7 add 11?

if im close props go to dmal if not i just suck

yup, you got it. post a chord :cheers:


Cas-:peace:

schlepper
05-20-2003, 06:33 PM
how about....

e -10
b -8
g -0
d -9
a -10
e -0

casualty01
05-20-2003, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by schlepper
how about....

e -10
b -8
g -0
d -9
a -10
e -0

E-7


E--7---
B--9---
G--9---
D--10--
A------
E------


Cas-:peace:

Snyper
05-20-2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by schlepper
so im a little slow at this maybe AbMaj7 add 11?

if im close props go to dmal if not i just suck
wouldnt it have to have the /Eb at the end?
:cheers:

casualty01
05-20-2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Snyper
wouldnt it have to have the /Eb at the end?
:cheers:

in order to be 100% by the book correct, yeah, it would have to be written as Abmaj7 add#11/Eb ......(i've created a monster :bonk: )

Cas-:peace:

Snyper
05-20-2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
in order to be 100% by the book correct, yeah, it would have to be written as Abmaj7 add#11/Eb ......(i've created a monster :bonk: )

Cas-:peace:
;)
:cheers:

schlepper
05-21-2003, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by casualty01
E-7


E--7---
B--9---
G--9---
D--10--
A------
E------


Cas-:peace:

undoubtedly, you're right i didn't know what it was called but i like the sound that that particular chord, but i have a couple questions, but i'll tell you for free that i dont know if the "-" in "E-7" means anything, minor maybe

1. wouldn't the 10th fret on a th a be a G(and at least the open G)?
2. if so wouldn't that not be in the key of E?
3. on the off chance that the other two are right could it be a G9/E or Gadd9/E? (i don't know the difference)

casualty01
05-23-2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by schlepper
undoubtedly, you're right i didn't know what it was called but i like the sound that that particular chord, but i have a couple questions, but i'll tell you for free that i dont know if the "-" in "E-7" means anything, minor maybe

1. wouldn't the 10th fret on a th a be a G(and at least the open G)?
2. if so wouldn't that not be in the key of E?
3. on the off chance that the other two are right could it be a G9/E or Gadd9/E? (i don't know the difference)

wait ... what ? are you talking about the chord i wrote ?

and if so, then no, thats not correct.


Cas-:peace:

beatallica_fan
05-23-2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by schlepper
undoubtedly, you're right i didn't know what it was called but i like the sound that that particular chord, but i have a couple questions, but i'll tell you for free that i dont know if the "-" in "E-7" means anything, minor maybe

1. wouldn't the 10th fret on a th a be a G(and at least the open G)?
2. if so wouldn't that not be in the key of E?
3. on the off chance that the other two are right could it be a G9/E or Gadd9/E? (i don't know the difference)


If you look Cas wrote E - 7, the - means min, and as we all should know G is defintely in the key of Emin.

schlepper
05-23-2003, 11:54 PM
yes i said i was unaware or anysignificance of the "-" but am now aware it means minor and the G is most definately in that key and my questions where regarding the chord i posted

shadowhunter486
05-26-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by casualty01


E--7---
B--9---
G--9---
D--10--
A------
E------


Cas-:peace:

i dont think anbody has answered this one yet. Cmaj7#5.


E--0--
B--5--
G--5--
D--4--
A--0--
E--5--

casualty01
05-26-2003, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
i dont think anbody has answered this one yet. Cmaj7#5.


E--0--
B--5--
G--5--
D--4--
A--0--
E--5--



no, no one answered it, and you are correct sir.


yours is an A-6 in root position, or a D9/A , whatever you want to look at it as.



E--4--
B--7--
G--6--
D--7--
A--6--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

shadowhunter486
05-27-2003, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by casualty01


E--4--
B--7--
G--6--
D--7--
A--6--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

tell me if im right b4 i post a chord. D#dim m7/add13 in root position. or F#m6 add9th/D#.

casualty01
05-27-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
tell me if im right b4 i post a chord. D#dim m7/add13 in root position. or F#m6 add9th/D#.

well, the second could be correct , but the first one is incorrect in 2 ways, 1.) when a dim has a b7 in it, like in this case, it would be written as D# half diminished, or D# -7 b5. i know what you meant , but also, you got the extension incorrect, it's not a 13

gie it another go from root position :)

Cas-:peace:

shadowhunter486
05-28-2003, 01:54 PM
would it be D#half diminished add 4? i dont see what else the G# could be. oh yeah this is kind of off subject, but would there be anyway to type the o diminished degree thing (sorry for the weak terminology) with the slash through it bc thats how we write it in my music theory class which is one of the reasons i was confused on how to write it.

shadowhunter486
05-28-2003, 01:57 PM
oh big dummy me. D#half diminshed add 11. jesus. i dont know why i was stuck on it being 13. when 13 is a 6th.

StowerS
05-30-2003, 09:41 PM
actually,that other chord is an A#13, so your wrong, get out.

StowerS
05-30-2003, 09:44 PM
This was meant for that post agessssssssss ago,that A#13

shadowhunter486
05-30-2003, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by StowerS
actually,that other chord is an A#13, so your wrong, get out.

are you talking about this chord?

Originally posted by casualty01


E--4--
B--7--
G--6--
D--7--
A--6--
E-----




please tell me which of these notes is an A#. if youre trying to correct someone, try to be nice. you will get a much better response. for example: "StowerS, please try to the you are youre and not the possesive your when using phrases such as youre wrong, youre right, youre a dumbass. it will make your argument seem a little more intelligent."

sorry about that cas. i had to do it. but am i correct on that chord? a D# half diminished add11?

casualty01
05-31-2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
but am i correct on that chord? a D# half diminished add11?

yes, you are :)


and what is stowers on about ? :confused:


Cas-:peace:

shadowhunter486
05-31-2003, 01:27 PM
i dont know, but heres another chord.


E--5--
B--0--
G--0--
D--4--
A--5--
E-----

benjmc
05-31-2003, 01:48 PM
Dadd13?
D11/13?

(I'm not too sure about my naming...it's D F# A G B which is a traditional D major chord with the 11th and 13th...or the 4th and 6th...help me out here)

shadowhunter486
05-31-2003, 02:20 PM
dont think of the lowest note as the root and you should get it. rearrange the notes.

casualty01
05-31-2003, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
i dont know, but heres another chord.


E--5--
B--0--
G--0--
D--4--
A--5--
E-----


well, in root position, it's a D6 add4

BUT, strongest harmonic order/function is a Gmaj9 in its 2nd inversion, or a Gmaj9/D ;)

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
06-05-2003, 12:58 PM
ooops, sorry, guess it's my turn


E--0--
B--4--
G--6--
D--9--
A--9--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

Berlioz96
06-06-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
ooops, sorry, guess it's my turn


E--0--
B--4--
G--6--
D--9--
A--9--
E-----


Cas-:peace:
looks kind of like a B chord or an E something.....not sure though....

shadowhunter486
06-06-2003, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
ooops, sorry, guess it's my turn


E--0--
B--4--
G--6--
D--9--
A--9--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

im thinkin B add2/4 in 2nd inversion

shadowhunter486
06-06-2003, 08:03 PM
E--2--
B--1--
G--0--
D--1--
A--3--
E-----


im posting just in case im right.

shadowhunter486
06-08-2003, 09:43 PM
E--2--
B--2--
G--0--
D--1--
A--2--
E-----


im also posting this bc i accidently played this when i meant to play B7 and i loved the sound of it. beautiful.

MachineHed
06-09-2003, 10:20 AM
is it B8?

shadowhunter486
06-09-2003, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by MachineHed
is it B8?

what the hell is a B8? no, thats definitely not right bc im about 99.9999999% sure that B8 is not a chord.

casualty01
06-09-2003, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
what the hell is a B8? no, thats definitely not right bc im about 99.9999999% sure that B8 is not a chord.

and i'll add the extra .0000001% just so you're sure ;)

no..... there is no such thing as a B8

however. i think he was ATTEMPTING to be a wise ass because you said you were trying to play a B7 and instead you played that. probably him just trying to be funny by saying B8.

casualty01
06-09-2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
im thinkin B add2/4 in 2nd inversion

you are correct sir :cheers:

Cas-:peace:

shadowhunter486
06-09-2003, 12:34 PM
figures. whats with all the wiseasses in the world?

casualty01
06-09-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486

E--2--
B--1--
G--0--
D--1--
A--3--
E-----


im posting just in case im right.

Cmin Add#11

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
06-09-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486

E--2--
B--2--
G--0--
D--1--
A--2--
E-----


im also posting this bc i accidently played this when i meant to play B7 and i loved the sound of it. beautiful.

B+ add9 from root pos. you might also see it writtien as B+9

(+ = augmented for those of you reading this who have no clue what the hell the + is supposed to represent)

but it's also an Eb7 #9/B ..... or Eb7 (#9/b13)/B

Cas-:peace:

chilipepper23
06-11-2003, 12:07 PM
well since no one is posting a chord i guess i will


0
5
4
2
4
x

casualty01
06-11-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by chilipepper23
well since no one is posting a chord i guess i will


0
5
4
2
4
x

C# -7

Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
06-14-2003, 04:24 PM
i guess i can post since no one will... this one is SOOO easy.... i know it doesnt present a challenge but i'm bored...

[FONT=courier]
|-12-
|-10-
|-9--
|-10-
|----
|----

redwing_suck
06-14-2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
C# -7

Cas-:peace: i got a question... does the "-" in front of the 7 mean it's a seventh chord without a fifth? cause the chord has a c#, e, and b... the 3 being the 3rd, the b being the seventh, but there is no 5th... or does the "-" have no meaning? .....

casualty01
06-14-2003, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
i got a question... does the "-" in front of the 7 mean it's a seventh chord without a fifth? cause the chord has a c#, e, and b... the 3 being the 3rd, the b being the seventh, but there is no 5th... or does the "-" have no meaning? .....

- = minor ....

C#- = C# minor

C#-7 = C# minor 7

etc...

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
06-14-2003, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
i guess i can post since no one will... this one is SOOO easy.... i know it doesnt present a challenge but i'm bored...

[FONT=courier]
|-12-
|-10-
|-9--
|-10-
|----
|----

A-

Cas-:peace:

casualty01
06-14-2003, 05:57 PM
E--5--
B--1--
G--4--
D--3--
A--0--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
06-14-2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--5--
B--1--
G--4--
D--3--
A--0--
E-----


Cas-:peace:
quick guess before i go...

A6 susp2?

casualty01
06-14-2003, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
quick guess before i go...

A6 susp2?

nope.

Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
06-14-2003, 08:28 PM
so i see the root of a... a-maj = a b c# d e f# g#...

a, then the 3 on the d-string is f, then the 4 on the g-string is b, then the 1 on the b-string is c, then the 5 on the e-string is a... so...

a, f, b, c, a... the a's are 1, the f is a flat 6... so there's a mistake... the b is the 2... the c is the b3... so there IS a third, making it a non-susp chord (yet another mistake... the a is the one again... so we have

1, 2, b3, b6 (and 1 again)... so Am (6) (or Am add6)... i think the 6 is more of an idetifying tone that the 2... maybe? help me out... tho this thread isnt made for theory, i think it needs it...

shadowhunter486
06-14-2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--5--
B--1--
G--4--
D--3--
A--0--
E-----


Cas-:peace:

F add #4/A


E--0--
B--0--
G--5--
D--5--
A--0--
E-----

redwing_suck
06-14-2003, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486

E--0--
B--0--
G--5--
D--5--
A--0--
E-----


let's see... 1, b3, 5, b7, 2...

Am7 add2

(not posting a chord till i know i'm right on one...)

shadowhunter486
06-14-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
let's see... 1, b3, 5, b7, 2...

Am7 add2

(not posting a chord till i know i'm right on one...)

whats another way of saying 2? remember the 7th is included.

redwing_suck
06-14-2003, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
whats another way of saying 2? remember the 7th is included.

Am7 9?

casualty01
06-16-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
Am7 9?

almost .... it's spelled as Amin9 ... or A-9

see, when the 7th is present... AND the 9 ... you would just write the 9.

1-b3-5-b7-9 = A-9

if it were missing the b7 (therefore breaking the order of the harmonic strengths.) then it would have the Add

1-b3-5-9 = Am add 9 ....

although i know you didn't write add, im just giving you the example.

but in the end, if the 7 and the 9 are present. you just write the 9.


ok ... next chord.


E-----
B--6--
G--7--
D--7--
A--7--
E-----


hint ... yes E is the root.

Cas- :peace:

redwing_suck
06-16-2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
\
ok ... next chord.


E-----
B--6--
G--7--
D--7--
A--7--
E-----


hint ... yes E is the root.

Cas- :peace:

let's see... emaj = e f# g# a b c# d#... there's an e (1), an a (4), a d (b7), and an f (b2).... so it reads... 1-b7-b2-4, right?

no i'm confused... might be susp cause there's no third... E7 susp 4 maybe? i have really no clue... well the b2 occurred after the octave of e... so it might be an add 9... someone give me answer!!!

would working with the c#-min scale work, since it is the same as e-maj?

shadowhunter486
06-16-2003, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by casualty01


E-----
B--6--
G--7--
D--7--
A--7--
E-----


hint ... yes E is the root.

Cas- :peace:

ok. this is a toughie. im going to assume that the 5th is being played by someone else (bassist maybe). and my answer is E7sus4 addb9.

redwing_suck
06-16-2003, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
ok. this is a toughie. im going to assume that the 5th is being played by someone else (bassist maybe). and my answer is E7sus4 addb9.

the seventh is flat tho... is it still major cause the third is not represented, and therefore it cannot be determined if it is flat or natural?

i agree with the name for well...

shadowhunter486
06-16-2003, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
the seventh is flat tho... is it still major cause the third is not represented, and therefore it cannot be determined if it is flat or natural?

i agree with the name for well...

a suspension is when there is not a third. for example a regular Esus4 would have an E, A, and B. when there is a b7 it becomes E7sus4. like i said in my post im assuming the 5th is being covered by the bassist. i dont know if the name i posted for the chord is right though. we have to wait for cas's godly wisdom of theory.

casualty01
06-16-2003, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
ok. this is a toughie. im going to assume that the 5th is being played by someone else (bassist maybe). and my answer is E7sus4 addb9.

you are correct ;).

except for the 5th thing ... there's no 5th. it's just you playing the chord shown :p:

remember gentlemen...... one of the rules in the harmonic order of strengths ....

a 5th is NOT needed to complete the order.

for example

1-3-5-7 = Maj7

AND..

1-3-7 = Maj7

see... the 5th is not needed to complete the order. as it doesn't exactly add much harmonic quality to the overall sound. yes... a "by the rule" perfect order includes the 5th, but often times the 5th is omitted in order to grab larger extensions. and seeing as how the 5th, as previously stated, doesn't really have a harmonic function as far as the QUALITY (ie. major/minor) goes... then it can be omitted without changing the function and or spelling of the chord....

sidenote: the next most frequently omitted chord tone.... is the root. but in that case... you're gonna need a bass player playing through the change and hitting the root to give the listener a basis for the chord you're incinuating.

Cas-:peace:

ps. ALSO ... 7sus4's can be written as just SUS... for example

this chord could just be written as Esus (b9) or addb9 whatever you prefer, seeing as how just the word "SUS" in a chord, is telling you 1-4-b7

shadowhunter486
06-16-2003, 10:22 PM
thanks. im still learning a lot of this stuff. umm what chord shall i post?


E--7--
B--9--
G--9--
D--7--
A--0--
E-----


like i said earlier. im not good at thinking these mofos up.

redwing_suck
06-17-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486

E--7--
B--9--
G--9--
D--7--
A--0--
E-----



Amaj7 add9 (or Amaj7 (9))?

i see (in a-maj) a 1, a 5, a7, and a 2... the two turns to 9 after the octave... but if there's no third, would it be a susp chord? see below...

how about A7 susp2?

shadowhunter486
06-17-2003, 03:21 PM
A is not the root note.

Grafitti_Artist
06-17-2003, 07:50 PM
Is that even a proper chord?:confused:

Grafitti_Artist
06-17-2003, 07:53 PM
I can't find that chord anywhere.

redwing_suck
06-17-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Grafitti_Artist
Is that even a proper chord?:confused: all chords are proper...

as for the chord, shadow...

i took a stab at e being the root note... dont know why... but in that case there's two 4's, a 1, a 3, and a 5... so E add4?

shadowhunter486
06-17-2003, 11:07 PM
yes that is what i was going for. but make sure to add the /A to the E add4 to make it E add4/A. always include inversions.

redwing_suck
06-18-2003, 12:00 AM
will do shadow...

ok here's my chord...


e|-3-
B|-x-
G|-1-
D|-1-
A|-4-
E|---


should be easy enough...

casualty01
06-18-2003, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
will do shadow...

ok here's my chord...


e|-3-
B|-x-
G|-1-
D|-1-
A|-4-
E|---


should be easy enough...

well, depending on the root, you're gonna have 2 strong choices.

it's either

Dbsus2 Add11 if the Db is the root

or

Eb-7 add4/Db if the Eb is the root

Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
06-18-2003, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
well, depending on the root, you're gonna have 2 strong choices.

it's either

Dbsus2 Add11 if the Db is the root

or

Eb-7 add4/Db if the Eb is the root

Cas-:peace:

Db = root

good job cas

now post

casualty01
06-18-2003, 02:23 PM
E--5--
B--1--
G--4--
D--4--
A--x--
E--0--


Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
06-18-2003, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--5--
B--1--
G--4--
D--4--
A--x--
E--0--


Cas-:peace:
i think i got the hang of the basics here...

F#min7 add4/E

beatallica_fan
06-18-2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
i think i got the hang of the basics here...

F#min7 add4/E

I think it would have to be b5 as well seeing as B is the 4th of F#minor and you also have a C in there. So perhaps F#min7 add4b5/E. I would perhaps suggest Am6add2/E, but i only suggest that because Am was the only complete triad i could see. I could be wrong though enlighten us oh great one, lol.

shadowhunter486
06-18-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by casualty01

E--5--
B--1--
G--4--
D--4--
A--x--
E--0--


Cas-:peace:

im gonna have to say F# half dim. add4/E

redwing_suck
06-18-2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
im gonna have to say F# half dim. add4/E

damn i forgot about that flat 5th... 1-b3-b5-b7 = half diminished... 1-b3-b5-bb7 = full diminished...

redwing_suck
06-19-2003, 05:00 PM
well here goes...

by the way, Bb/A# is the root...


|-3-
|-4-
|-3-
|-5-
|-4-
|-6-

shadowhunter486
06-19-2003, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
well here goes...

by the way, Bb/A# is the root...


|-3-
|-4-
|-3-
|-5-
|-4-
|-6-


if you want Bb as the root (which is dumb) i think its a Bbm6add11. (not 100% sure on this)

if you would look at the strongest harmonic function (im stealing cas's words) you would clearly see that its an Eb7/Bb.

redwing_suck
06-19-2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
if you want Bb as the root (which is dumb) i think its a Bbm6add11. (not 100% sure on this)

if you would look at the strongest harmonic function (im stealing cas's words) you would clearly see that its an Eb7/Bb. the tab i have here says it's a Bb full diminished...

Bb = Bb C D Eb F G A

we have Bb (1), Db (b3), G (bb7), Bb again (1), Eb (add 11), and G again (bb7)... not sure... the tab is official and i think the gy who used it is a dumbass anyways... i cant be too sure eithger, i just posted the chord...

also, when i saw that Bb was the root i was dumbfounded as well...

shadowhunter486
06-19-2003, 09:15 PM
if youre going to call it a bb7 then it wouldnt be named G it would be named Abb. but a bb7 is also a six which was my reason for calling it a m6 chord. but like you and i both said Bb as the root is just dumb. with Eb as the root the chord is simply an Eb7. alright. enough of that chord. lets move on

E--2--
B--2--
G--1--
D--0--
A--0--
E-----

casualty01
06-19-2003, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
if youre going to call it a bb7 then it wouldnt be named G it would be named Abb. but a bb7 is also a six which was my reason for calling it a m6 chord. but like you and i both said Bb as the root is just dumb. with Eb as the root the chord is simply an Eb7. alright. enough of that chord. lets move on

E--2--
B--2--
G--1--
D--0--
A--0--
E-----


Dmaj7 add#4/A


and yah, that previous chord is just an Eb7 with the 5th as the root...

what tab is telling you it's a Bb full diminished ?

and am i the only one that cant play that chord ? lol

Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
06-19-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
Dmaj7 add#4/A


and yah, that previous chord is just an Eb7 with the 5th as the root...

what tab is telling you it's a Bb full diminished ?

and am i the only one that cant play that chord ? lol

Cas-:peace:
it wasnt a real tab from a real book, just something printed off the internet... somehow the guy pulls it off, but i couldnt do it either... seems to me like an impossible chord....

shadowhunter486
06-19-2003, 10:18 PM
i cant play it. my thumb isnt big enough and i dont have 6 fingers to make up for it.

redwing_suck
06-19-2003, 10:56 PM
quick question on root notes... how do you know if the first note of the chord is not the root note? do you just have to know your triads for each key really well? or is there an easy way to find its strongest tonality? sometimes i have trouble knowing what is the root note and what is not...

redwing:eek:

shadowhunter486
06-19-2003, 11:39 PM
i know the triads and scales really well. and if your have a good ear thats always a plus. i usually dont have my guitar at the table so i write out the notes and figure them out that way. i usually play a midi file too though. my ear is not great, but i work on it a lot. my brain, however, is all there and working fine.

redwing_suck
06-20-2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
i know the triads and scales really well. and if your have a good ear thats always a plus. i usually dont have my guitar at the table so i write out the notes and figure them out that way. i usually play a midi file too though. my ear is not great, but i work on it a lot. my brain, however, is all there and working fine. i seem to be getting the hang of memorizing the triads now... i know all scales like the back of my hand... another thing i have trouble with when figuring out chords is inversions... i understand them and all (thanks to cas) but i always forget to put them in the chord name or even think about them at all...

shadowhunter486
06-20-2003, 12:31 PM
to know if there is an inversion or not you have to look at all the notes and realize that the lowest note is not the root. its not really that difficult. i dont understand what your question is about them.

redwing_suck
06-20-2003, 01:13 PM
it's just that when i try naming chords, like you, i write down the notes and such... in the confusion i forget the original order... i'm too lazy to go back and do it again... that's all...

redwing_suck
06-20-2003, 01:16 PM
since no one is posting, and this thread has turned into a "let's teach redwing how to recognize chords" deal... i'll post a new chord...

you might recognize it from zeppelin's "battle of evermore"...

|-0--
|-14-
|-14-
|-14-
|-0--
|-14-



redwing:eek:

casualty01
06-20-2003, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by redwing_suck
since no one is posting, and this thread has turned into a "let's teach redwing how to recognize chords" deal... i'll post a new chord...

you might recognize it from zeppelin's "battle of evermore"...

|-0--
|-14-
|-14-
|-14-
|-0--
|-14-



redwing:eek:

F#-7

Cas-:peace:

redwing_suck
06-20-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by casualty01
F#-7

Cas-:peace: good good...

redwing_suck
06-21-2003, 08:10 PM
guess we need a new chord...

|-3-
|-4-
|-5-
|-5-
|-5-
|-0-

shadowhunter486
06-21-2003, 08:34 PM
im sayin C add2add#2/E.

penguin burn
06-21-2003, 11:57 PM
wow i feel so amazingly ****ing stupid look at your posts.

I do that "play by feeling- music has no rules" thing.

redwing_suck
06-22-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486
im sayin C add2add#2/E. YEAH!!!!!! i think, that's what i got anywho...


redwing:eek:

redwing_suck
06-22-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by penguin burn
wow i feel so amazingly ****ing stupid look at your posts.

I do that "play by feeling- music has no rules" thing. you are missing out, my friend... it makes you look bad as a musician to do that...


redwing:eek:

shadowhunter486
06-22-2003, 12:33 PM
E--0--
B--1--
G--1--
D--4--
A--3--
E--0--

casualty01
06-22-2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by shadowhunter486

E--0--
B--1--
G--1--
D--4--
A--3--
E--0--


ok, yours is Ab7 (b13)/E ............


the one redwing posted before, while you were right in getting the intervals. in the case where you have the major 3rd and the b3rd, you would pretty much automatically call it a #9 ..... yes i know it's the same note as the #2, and yes i know technically it didn't occur after the octave... it's just one of those quirky little chord naming things.

so the way to write that chord taking the route/root you did (lol taking the route/root ...... i kill me ) would be C (2/#9)/E ........

however........ that's not the name i would give that chord, and most likely NOT how you would see it written.


THIS chord is a slash chord in it's truest sense. all these other chords we've been writing with slashes to represent the bass note in the case of it not being the root, well they're slash chords in a sense, but this is what a slash chord is most commonly used for. with that said.......

i would write it as Cmin add9/E

Cas-:peace:

penguin burn
06-22-2003, 11:19 PM
no one ever taught me theory (which is basically this), and i cant self-teach. *tear*

redwing_suck
06-22-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by penguin burn
no one ever taught me theory (which is basically this), and i cant self-teach. *tear* go to the archives for the best theory you'll find anywhere on the internet...


redwing:eek:

penguin burn
06-23-2003, 12:02 PM
ok cool. i went tehre and did the first lesson. i kindof knew that step stuff but i know it all now. ah- not being oblivious....